Came across this ZOHD this morning while watching another video. A clear well presented session and as a motorcyclist this plane will enable me to transport it with ease. A very clear presentation spoken in precise English language so refreshing. Many thanks.
I’ve got the zohd dart 250 g and with my crossfire receiver I have been approximately about 3 kilometres out and only turned around because I had very little reception into my goggles, intermittently receiving a signal, great flyer, fairly fast yet also good duration of flight time. They certainly make some great products for the price and I would recommend them to anyone who wants a great fpv plane. The intermittent reception was probably because I was a little bit low and there may have been a bit of interference from some other signal source, otherwise I’d have gone further out. This one looks pretty good as well, might get one some day soon. Good review on this nice slow gentle flyer.
I have removed both wing servo connectors and all the bits running into the fuse, simply used the supplied y-lead and soldered two male servo connectors on the servo leads. The original connectors are too flimsy and will bend in time as mine did and a pin broke off, lucky I was home and not ready to launch so I did the mod and all great.
Good review, and sensible "be aware of's". This plane has brought me both joy and pain. Flying with goggles makes this tiny unit shine. I consider building somethin a bit larger and slower to reuse the tech - kopilot and vc400 is solid. Thank you for sharing this.
Lee, as your usual, a very detailed video. The Kopilot is a great flight aid and good value. There are a couple of areas that can trip up some users. One is the servo controls “order” especially for the PWM kits where connector pins have to be switched around to match the Kopilot “order”. You have covered this before but is easily overloaded. Another, is the redo of the radio calibration when Tx trims have been adjusted to fix manual flight mode. And third, is about how to best set the Rx Failsafe option. That it will resort to RTH mode if ever the radio signal fails. You have covered all of these points. I only suggest extra emphasis when you might do another Kopilot review. Cheers....
Metal push rod to carbon fiber I might do that to save a few grams and toss the magnets. For long range it’s okay to use tape or something lighter by a tad bit. Matek and RunCam no rudder is okay, lion. 5.8ghz something over 600mw and under 8grams. :)
Really beautiful airplane, Lee! Sweet flying! 😃 Sorry, my depression isn't giving me much disposition, so I only watched it now. 😕 Anyway, do you think the smaller iNav FC from Matek would fit in there? Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Nice review as always. A little concerned by how many times you said "fly it like you stole it." I would like to remind the FPV community to please pay for any models and parts that you acquire. ;-)
I'm interested in th also. A nebula with a long cable, caddx air unit sitting in the lower rear compartment with a 5v Raspberry Pi cooling fan. Would require 3s for fpv system so probably a 850mah lipo. I am tempted to get a PNP version but I hate preordering. I wish they would just wait to release once it is available instead of using reviewers as beta testers and making preorders wait 3 months. I'm looking at you, radiomaster tx16s......
Why are you using the 3 blades propeller instead of 2 blades? What would be the difference? I have a 3000mah battery that weights 105grams and climbing is really a big effort for this model
Have now flown it with minimal wind and found it performed auto takeoff flawlessly and have tested stabilised mode with 2S configuration and using CG at marks works fine - I have rotated the tail into alignment - filed off a bit of the collar and used chewing gum to fix gap - works well. However on switching to manual (at rest this is all aligned with no elevator and it dives for the ground - wasnt game to see what happened next ? so back to auto - Is the CG marks wrong?
good little plane ... a bit too little maybe but you can see it is well thought through. It looks like you need to give it a good elevon notch on launch yours was touch and go for a minute I almost had a moment myself when I saw it pointing straight at the corn.... ;-) Would be great to see how it copes in cross winds .
I'd check out the RTF version as it'll show you the motor, prop and other things that it comes with... (this one in the video is an RTF). Best of luck.
Hi. It seems nice and with a good price. Would you recommend it as a first plane for someone coming from quads? I don’t understand well the different types of planes (with / without rudder, etc...), is this a good one for learning ? If not, which would you recommend?
Great review, thanks Lee. How does the tail servo plug in to the Kopilot? Do we treat it as a wing? (ie, throttle, aileron and elevator). I bought a Kopilot a few weeks ago but after a whole day I could not get the receiver to talk to the Kopilot. Tried 2 different Crossfire and 2 different Frsky Sbus rx’s. It now sits in my “never did get that working” box. 😁
@@Painless360 Probably best to note that, if using the PWM connection option, the rudder connection from receiver to Kopilot (in the order A,E,T,R,Mode) IS required even if, like here, there is no rudder used. Can't calibrate without it.
I presume that by now you've got yours either working or replaced in the very unlikely event that you got a dead one. The RC Groups forums thread on the Kopilot is a great resource and has shown that 99% of the "It doesn't work!" yelps about it are due to 1 of 2 possibilities. 1 (Not applicable to ZOHD stuff) The Kopilot IS picky about the ESCs it will work with - or rather the other way round. Some ESCs object to the protracted start-up process of the Kopilot and shut down before it is completed. 2 Operator error in the set-up! The good news is that this thing seems bullet proof to the 101+ ways to plug it in wrong. And on the 4 we have we've tried 'em all at least once before getting it right! I'd go easy on powering it backwards or plugging it into the mains though! 😜
I live in Finland and 2 years ago bought a ZOHD Drift PNP kit and the Zohd Kopilot. Now going to build it, but cannot find a ZOHD VC400 camera sold separately any more. Also, I have the DJI goggles V2, an adapter for it accepting analog vrx boards and the Eachine 58pro Oled Diversity vrx. Should I get a NTSC or PAL aio fpv camera for this kit? I want a aio cam with at least 200mw. What aio fpv camera could fit? Thanks for great vids!
I've not tested many modern AIO units here so not sure. The camera on the VC400 was poor so making a little FPV setup would give you a better experience.. Happy flying
Do you recommend goggles? If so, which ones?. I have never flown FPV and have none of the necessary equipment. I normally fly Ava Pros and Sr Telemasters. I have a vision problem and cannot see distant objects.
The Immortal T is the exact same active elements as the whisker antenna. Use a whisker and tape it down in the recommended V configuration to the fuselage and you'll get the exact same range. The immortal Ts are best for quads where you're more likely to chop them or get the stuffed in the ground.
thank you for this video…. its a bit late for me …but im interested in this model ….can i use all the zohd components with a spectrum dx9 transmitter ….or do i have to get a new transmitter to fly and use with the zohd copilot and package and zohd drift plane i hope you can guide me in this matter ….look forward to your reply thanks.
You'd need to power it from a voltage its happy with. I'd go for a 2s LIPO is there isn't another option. See the manual for the camera/VTX combo you have..
Just received my ZOHD drift today and I've found a problem. When I connect the included GPS to the Ko-Pilot Flight Controller the LED on the FC doesn't seem to light up like its supposed to. I know the GPS is getting power since the LED on the actual GPS is solid red but it isn't sending any info the the FC. Do you know what I could do to fix the problem? Thanks
I bought a Baby Ratel 2 cam and an Eachine Nano v2 vtx, also have the Kopilot lite and a ZOHD 30ESC Lite series. This will be my very first FPV installation. My question relates to the OSD. The vtx has a green cable labeled RX and the camera has a 2 pin connector with a black ground cable and a green OSD cable. The camera comes with a separate OSD “joystick board” that connects to this 2-pin connector on the camera. Should I just use this OSD joystick and not use the green RX cable on the vtx at all, just remove the cable?
The green cable from the VTX is there so it can be controlled from a flight controller (band, power level, channel etc.). If you are not connecting that to a flight controller then remove it and it should have a button on it to change those things. The two wires on a camera that plug into the little joystick are for settings on the camera only. Things like dynamic range, white balance and signal type (PAL or NTSC)...
@@Painless360 Thanks! Any suggestions on soldering on such minimal soldering pads? Temperature and wattage on the iron? I have solder of the old type with lower melting point. This stuff is so small!
Are you saying it is not a sub 250 plane if you use the kopilot? That would be unfortunate as it looks like a great mid range fpv plane and rth is a great safety net.
Thanks for the video. I think I'd like to try the airplane. But having a hard time choosing all other items required. For battery there are so many batteries on their website. Different voltages and etc. Could you recommend a battery that can go well this airplane? Also what's a good entry level transmitter you can recommend?
I'm using a 3s 850mAh pack and it's a good fit. If you're looking for things like radios check out my 'Kit Picks 2020' videos where I cover my choices for all budgets.. Best of luck!
Just got my Drift with Kopilot today, I've found that the wires that plug into the Kopilot are too tall meaning that the GPS hatch doesnt actually go on properly. Did you come across this issue?
I do recall having to cut a relief somewhere but this is from a while back so can't exactly recall where.. Best of luck with it - this is a lovely flyer on a calm day..
I can't get my Drift to fly! The balance seems correct but it just nose dives and cartwheels on take off. I've tried flying it off a gentle slope but it still cartwheels and dives. I've tried with full up elevator but it still cartwheels. Very frustrating! I'm using a 2S 2600Ma Li ion battery. Help!!
@@Painless360 This is the first R/C plane I've had but I've a basic understanding of aeronautics (I had a PPL many decades ago!). I think I've followed the set up steps. Please could you tell me what you mean by "set up" as I may be thinking of something else! "At rest" the elevators and ailerons are all neutral. I've put it into stabilised mode, checked this is working and launched off a slope; it just cartwheels. Same with RTH mode. It will fly straight and level on a small hand launched glide from the bottom of the slope with no power but on a longer glide further up the slope it again starts to cartwheel. The fore/aft balance is just a little nose heavy (as suggested by RagtheNutsoff).Could the whole thing be out of alignment although I put it together following the the instructions and it's hardly complicated! I'm only attempting to fly on calm days. I live on an island near Auckland in NZ and there aren't any flying clubs on the Island I could tap into. Any hints or advice would be very welcome.
Mr. Painless, Did your Drift have a misaligned tail section when you built it ? I just built mine but the tail section locks in a misaligned position. It appears I need to break the boom collar loose, turn it and glue it in place. I have not attempted it yet. Is there a solvent I can use on the adhesive to break the collar free ?
I've been wanting to pick up a ZOHD Talon GT and get back into flying, but they're sold out or back ordered everywhere! In the meanwhile, till I can get my hands on one, I've been looking at something a bit smaller such as this (the Drift), or the Dart250g. I'd like something somewhat portable for FPV. How do you like the Dart250 compared to the Drift (or any other recommendations)? I've seen your videos on both, and I'm sure I'd be happy with either, just thought I'd ask the expert :)
@@Painless360 thank you so much for the quick response, you're awesome! Ordering the Drift now. FPV version is on backorder so I got the Kopilot and VC400 separate. Edit: in case anyone else is looking to purchase right now, it was only a few more USD to get the PNP version and the Kopilot/VC400 bundle separately than it is for the Drift FPV version.
Great review like always, so thank you. Do you need a separate battery to power the VC400? I see a JST plug in the battery bay along with the XT30 so thought to ask if there is a way in the kit to plug and use the flight pack to power the VTX in case it is time to FPV?
Hi, I'm having a hard time deciding whether to use crossfire's immortal T antenna or crossfire's wire antenna. I would like to fly max 2 km with my drift but I don't know if the wire antenna is reliable enough for this compared to the immortal T.
@@Painless360 Thanks for replying, really appreciate it. I would also prefer the immortal T but it is difficult to mount vertically on the Drift (without the antenna touching the ground when landing), so that's the mean reason why I am also considering the wire antenna.
@painless360 Is there any chance this would work with the TBS crossfire nano rx 6 channel adapter? I am interested in this plane quite a bit :) Also how hard would it be to connect crossfire to the FPV version instead of the PNP version? Thanks
A LOT OF BOTHER sums up this foamy. Oddly mine was bought having watched this video but like many supplied by Bangood it came with the tail rotated several degrees in vertical plane in clockwise direction - corrected by some filing / plus the wing connections took a lot of mucking about before working - see rc forums. Have not maidened yet as there is quite a lot of to/fro about CG. Additionally and skipped in the video is how to set up the kopilot - it needs the rubber in the channels selection and I have had trouble getting the kopilot stabilization to work - and on removing the control the auto stabilization is very minimal - again not sure why.
@@Painless360 thanks for reply, I thought that but I'm not going to fpv this, just want a gentle sub 250g park flyer, I have a 2s lipo with jst connector, I do have xt30s I could solder on but do I need to?
I have to change the XT30 for a JST because all my 2s batteries are JST connectors. I am planning to run mine on an 800mah 2s. I've fitted mine with the Kopilot and fpv because I love the auto launch and return to home features. Lee, your videos are just superb, clear, concise and very helpful.
I'm trying to use a Frsky RX4R RX anyone know what wires go where on the Kopilot lite. Molex connecter on the RX black, red and yellow that go to a normal servo connecter, then blue, red and green that have individual pins. what goes where on the FC. Feeling a bit stupid having to ask
You need to connect up the SBUS cable with the channel order on the radio set as shown. See the detailed setup video in the KoPilot series for a step by step setup. Hope that helps..
What position did you end up having the Aileron and Elevator KoPilot Lite calibration potentiometers set to ? Knowing an approximate "value" would be really useful before I maiden my Drift. Also, what power level did you operate the ZOHD VC400 at ? The manual warns about possible overheating if operating at the higher power levels. Thanks for the excellent video that convinced me to try a Drift as my first FPV fixed wing.
I think because of weight saving...also, with the motor on top you don't need landing gear. The rudder would have been nice tho...I think I'll fly mine as a soarer and might do a rudder mod in future.
@@TheRattleSnake3145 That with a rudder would be a perfect plane for sloping and take off landing touch and go landings.. Plus I love a rudder when FPVing with a fixed wing.. it gives you some yaw for looking side to side without banking.
That was the one they had for when the video came out. They extended it once but they all got used up. Make sure you have the bell notification icon selected so you don't miss out. Happy flying!
Came across this ZOHD this morning while watching another video. A clear well presented session and as a motorcyclist this plane will enable me to transport it with ease. A very clear presentation spoken in precise English language so refreshing. Many thanks.
I like the idea of a slightly bigger one... 🤔 Come Zohd, Drift XL please 😊😊
That's exactly what I had in mind. I'd love to see a 1.2 meter or 1.5 meter wing span version of it.
I really like where ZoHD is going with this.
Or a 2.6m! To do thermaling !!
@@tankogenonrcgroups9750 YES!!!
That's what she said. Sorry...couldn't resist.
I agree with you tho, it would fly forever.
Get you one of those 1.1m areo scouts, very similar
I’ve got the zohd dart 250 g and with my crossfire receiver I have been approximately about 3 kilometres out and only turned around because I had very little reception into my goggles, intermittently receiving a signal, great flyer, fairly fast yet also good duration of flight time. They certainly make some great products for the price and I would recommend them to anyone who wants a great fpv plane. The intermittent reception was probably because I was a little bit low and there may have been a bit of interference from some other signal source, otherwise I’d have gone further out. This one looks pretty good as well, might get one some day soon. Good review on this nice slow gentle flyer.
Yeah I'd get this if I didn't already have the Dart 250! Looks like they fly quite similarly.
I like this little guy, there are times when I just want to take a plane when I head to the school to fly. Thanks for the video
I have removed both wing servo connectors and all the bits running into the fuse, simply used the supplied y-lead and soldered two male servo connectors on the servo leads. The original connectors are too flimsy and will bend in time as mine did and a pin broke off, lucky I was home and not ready to launch so I did the mod and all great.
Received mine today (FPV version) looking forward to maiden!
Good review, and sensible "be aware of's". This plane has brought me both joy and pain. Flying with goggles makes this tiny unit shine. I consider building somethin a bit larger and slower to reuse the tech - kopilot and vc400 is solid. Thank you for sharing this.
Lee, as your usual, a very detailed video. The Kopilot is a great flight aid and good value. There are a couple of areas that can trip up some users. One is the servo controls “order” especially for the PWM kits where connector pins have to be switched around to match the Kopilot “order”. You have covered this before but is easily overloaded. Another, is the redo of the radio calibration when Tx trims have been adjusted to fix manual flight mode. And third, is about how to best set the Rx Failsafe option. That it will resort to RTH mode if ever the radio signal fails. You have covered all of these points. I only suggest extra emphasis when you might do another Kopilot review. Cheers....
Thanks for the comment. I have covered those points in my Kopilot videos. Happy flying!
I love all the ZOHD stuff too Lee! I have to get this one too! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for getting me into fixed wing aircraft!
A full fat Kopilot would be brilliant
Thanks for showing, was a great help to my ZOHD drift!
Very nice video. Finaly a complete model I would not be afraid to fly, ordering right now 👍
I like you, fast and to the point. Best video of unboxing,flight ,and follow up cool man your the best. I'm going to buy glider on pay day.
Personally on gliders I only really use the rudder for landings as it makes lining up and correcting for last-minute wind so much easier.
Metal push rod to carbon fiber I might do that to save a few grams and toss the magnets. For long range it’s okay to use tape or something lighter by a tad bit. Matek and RunCam no rudder is okay, lion. 5.8ghz something over 600mw and under 8grams. :)
love your reviews thanks for all the hard work
Really beautiful airplane, Lee! Sweet flying! 😃
Sorry, my depression isn't giving me much disposition, so I only watched it now. 😕
Anyway, do you think the smaller iNav FC from Matek would fit in there?
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
You too, stay safe and wel. Best wishes...l
Thanks Man
Folding prop in front, rudder,elevator,wo fpv...that you be a cheap glider to start with :) like libelle dlg which I am trying to add a motor 🤔
Nice review as always. A little concerned by how many times you said "fly it like you stole it." I would like to remind the FPV community to please pay for any models and parts that you acquire. ;-)
I get my rc parts in the trees that seem to grow them in my neighborhood. 8D
Hi, I have just bought one of these. I use a Taranis Plus, what would be a good receiver? Thanks.
If you are using a Kopilot, then one of the tiny Sbus recievers like the R-XSR or XM+ would be my choice... best of luck
Think you could find a Caddx Vista or Nebula HD system in there?
I'm interested in th also. A nebula with a long cable, caddx air unit sitting in the lower rear compartment with a 5v Raspberry Pi cooling fan. Would require 3s for fpv system so probably a 850mah lipo.
I am tempted to get a PNP version but I hate preordering. I wish they would just wait to release once it is available instead of using reviewers as beta testers and making preorders wait 3 months. I'm looking at you, radiomaster tx16s......
Why are you using the 3 blades propeller instead of 2 blades? What would be the difference?
I have a 3000mah battery that weights 105grams and climbing is really a big effort for this model
The props supplied are for the 2S and 3S batteries. I used the one for the 3S pack I was using. Happy flying!
Have now flown it with minimal wind and found it performed auto takeoff flawlessly and have tested stabilised mode with 2S configuration and using CG at marks works fine - I have rotated the tail into alignment - filed off a bit of the collar and used chewing gum to fix gap - works well. However on switching to manual (at rest this is all aligned with no elevator and it dives for the ground - wasnt game to see what happened next ? so back to auto - Is the CG marks wrong?
Flying this without a flight controller, fly's nice and straight when gliding pulls to the left when using the motor?
There may be a little aileron input needed to counter the torque from the motor but it should be very small... Happy flying
I like this model.
good little plane ... a bit too little maybe but you can see it is well thought through. It looks like you need to give it a good elevon notch on launch yours was touch and go for a minute I almost had a moment myself when I saw it pointing straight at the corn.... ;-)
Would be great to see how it copes in cross winds .
Not great, all these small lightweight models suffer in anything fbut a very light breeze.. Happy flying
What are all the parts that you are using?
I bought this drone for my dad but I dont have a clue what else to get for this
I'd check out the RTF version as it'll show you the motor, prop and other things that it comes with... (this one in the video is an RTF). Best of luck.
Hi. It seems nice and with a good price. Would you recommend it as a first plane for someone coming from quads? I don’t understand well the different types of planes (with / without rudder, etc...), is this a good one for learning ? If not, which would you recommend?
It's definatley a contender. ua-cam.com/video/OaKqAng-BVE/v-deo.html is worth a look... Happy flying
Great review, thanks Lee.
How does the tail servo plug in to the Kopilot? Do we treat it as a wing? (ie, throttle, aileron and elevator). I bought a Kopilot a few weeks ago but after a whole day I could not get the receiver to talk to the Kopilot. Tried 2 different Crossfire and 2 different Frsky Sbus rx’s. It now sits in my “never did get that working” box. 😁
Setup as a conventional plane as usual. The KoPilot doesn't do a lot with the rudder anyway (no pots for that on the adjustment board)..
@@Painless360 Probably best to note that, if using the PWM connection option, the rudder connection from receiver to Kopilot (in the order A,E,T,R,Mode) IS required even if, like here, there is no rudder used. Can't calibrate without it.
I presume that by now you've got yours either working or replaced in the very unlikely event that you got a dead one. The RC Groups forums thread on the Kopilot is a great resource and has shown that 99% of the "It doesn't work!" yelps about it are due to 1 of 2 possibilities.
1 (Not applicable to ZOHD stuff) The Kopilot IS picky about the ESCs it will work with - or rather the other way round. Some ESCs object to the protracted start-up process of the Kopilot and shut down before it is completed.
2 Operator error in the set-up! The good news is that this thing seems bullet proof to the 101+ ways to plug it in wrong. And on the 4 we have we've tried 'em all at least once before getting it right! I'd go easy on powering it backwards or plugging it into the mains though! 😜
I live in Finland and 2 years ago bought a ZOHD Drift PNP kit and the Zohd Kopilot. Now going to build it, but cannot find a ZOHD VC400 camera sold separately any more. Also, I have the DJI goggles V2, an adapter for it accepting analog vrx boards and the Eachine 58pro Oled Diversity vrx. Should I get a NTSC or PAL aio fpv camera for this kit? I want a aio cam with at least 200mw. What aio fpv camera could fit? Thanks for great vids!
I've not tested many modern AIO units here so not sure. The camera on the VC400 was poor so making a little FPV setup would give you a better experience.. Happy flying
Do you recommend goggles? If so, which ones?. I have never flown FPV and have none of the necessary equipment. I normally fly Ava Pros and Sr Telemasters. I have a vision problem and cannot see distant objects.
ua-cam.com/video/38wtg3Xejt8/v-deo.html has my latest thinking.. Happy flying
How/where would you mount the Crossfire Immortal T antenna on the Drift?
The Immortal T is the exact same active elements as the whisker antenna. Use a whisker and tape it down in the recommended V configuration to the fuselage and you'll get the exact same range. The immortal Ts are best for quads where you're more likely to chop them or get the stuffed in the ground.
thank you for this video…. its a bit late for me …but im interested in this model ….can
i use all the zohd components with a spectrum dx9 transmitter ….or do i have to get a new transmitter to fly and use with the zohd copilot and package and zohd drift plane i hope you can guide me in this matter ….look forward to your reply thanks.
See my video on using the Kopilot with Spektrum... Happy flying
@@Painless360 thank you
If you mentioned it, I missed it... What battery connector is supplied with the airplane?
Xt30..
Hi, nice video. Do you know how many voltage gives the esc to the camera? Because I have one that has input power 3.3v-5v. Thank you.
It's the battery voltage. The VC400 works on that... happy flying
@@Painless360 so, I can't use my cam, or I may use 1s battery separately. Thank you for your answer.
You'd need to power it from a voltage its happy with. I'd go for a 2s LIPO is there isn't another option. See the manual for the camera/VTX combo you have..
@@Painless360 I have the Eachine TX02Pro and says 1s lipo needed.
Just received my ZOHD drift today and I've found a problem.
When I connect the included GPS to the Ko-Pilot Flight Controller the LED on the FC doesn't seem to light up like its supposed to. I know the GPS is getting power since the LED on the actual GPS is solid red but it isn't sending any info the the FC.
Do you know what I could do to fix the problem?
Thanks
It takes a few mins to get a lock first time... Best of luck
@@Painless360 Sweet thankyou. I switched it to rth mode on the ground and the servos started twitching a heap. Is that normal?
I bought a Baby Ratel 2 cam and an Eachine Nano v2 vtx, also have the Kopilot lite and a ZOHD 30ESC Lite series. This will be my very first FPV installation. My question relates to the OSD. The vtx has a green cable labeled RX and the camera has a 2 pin connector with a black ground cable and a green OSD cable. The camera comes with a separate OSD “joystick board” that connects to this 2-pin connector on the camera. Should I just use this OSD joystick and not use the green RX cable on the vtx at all, just remove the cable?
The green cable from the VTX is there so it can be controlled from a flight controller (band, power level, channel etc.). If you are not connecting that to a flight controller then remove it and it should have a button on it to change those things.
The two wires on a camera that plug into the little joystick are for settings on the camera only. Things like dynamic range, white balance and signal type (PAL or NTSC)...
@@Painless360 Thanks! Any suggestions on soldering on such minimal soldering pads? Temperature and wattage on the iron? I have solder of the old type with lower melting point. This stuff is so small!
ua-cam.com/video/F-22UZ2zD10/v-deo.html may help. Using poor irons and solder are the two biggest issues..
Since there is no rudder, would V-tail suite ZOHD Drift better than T-tail??
No.. Setup as a standard T tail.. Happy flying
Are you saying it is not a sub 250 plane if you use the kopilot? That would be unfortunate as it looks like a great mid range fpv plane and rth is a great safety net.
Flying weight with Kopilot, VC400 and 850mah 3s pack shown in the video... happy flying
I learned the ruder because of flying multirotors
Does to Co Pilot support Autonomous mission. Can we install an APM in it ?
No. See my video on it.. Best of luck
Thanks for the video. I think I'd like to try the airplane. But having a hard time choosing all other items required. For battery there are so many batteries on their website. Different voltages and etc. Could you recommend a battery that can go well this airplane? Also what's a good entry level transmitter you can recommend?
I'm using a 3s 850mAh pack and it's a good fit. If you're looking for things like radios check out my 'Kit Picks 2020' videos where I cover my choices for all budgets.. Best of luck!
@@Painless360 I'll check that out. Thanks!
Could I use a 3s 1300mah battery without causing any damage or adding too much weight with having the kopilot and camera installed?
I think you'd struggle with the larger battery. You won't know until you try... Best of luck
Just got my Drift with Kopilot today, I've found that the wires that plug into the Kopilot are too tall meaning that the GPS hatch doesnt actually go on properly. Did you come across this issue?
I do recall having to cut a relief somewhere but this is from a while back so can't exactly recall where.. Best of luck with it - this is a lovely flyer on a calm day..
I can't get my Drift to fly! The balance seems correct but it just nose dives and cartwheels on take off. I've tried flying it off a gentle slope but it still cartwheels and dives. I've tried with full up elevator but it still cartwheels. Very frustrating! I'm using a 2S 2600Ma Li ion battery. Help!!
Using a Kopilot?
@@Painless360 Yes, fitted following your comprehensive videos!!
How odd, I've never seen that. Sounds like one of the setup steps may need tweaking.. Best of luck
@@Painless360 This is the first R/C plane I've had but I've a basic understanding of aeronautics (I had a PPL many decades ago!). I think I've followed the set up steps. Please could you tell me what you mean by "set up" as I may be thinking of something else! "At rest" the elevators and ailerons are all neutral. I've put it into stabilised mode, checked this is working and launched off a slope; it just cartwheels. Same with RTH mode. It will fly straight and level on a small hand launched glide from the bottom of the slope with no power but on a longer glide further up the slope it again starts to cartwheel. The fore/aft balance is just a little nose heavy (as suggested by RagtheNutsoff).Could the whole thing be out of alignment although I put it together following the the instructions and it's hardly complicated! I'm only attempting to fly on calm days. I live on an island near Auckland in NZ and there aren't any flying clubs on the Island I could tap into. Any hints or advice would be very welcome.
Mr. Painless, Did your Drift have a misaligned tail section when you built it ? I just built mine but the tail section locks in a misaligned position. It appears I need to break the boom collar loose, turn it and glue it in place. I have not attempted it yet. Is there a solvent I can use on the adhesive to break the collar free ?
Mine was spot on.. Id let the place you got it from know... Best of luck
I've been wanting to pick up a ZOHD Talon GT and get back into flying, but they're sold out or back ordered everywhere! In the meanwhile, till I can get my hands on one, I've been looking at something a bit smaller such as this (the Drift), or the Dart250g. I'd like something somewhat portable for FPV. How do you like the Dart250 compared to the Drift (or any other recommendations)? I've seen your videos on both, and I'm sure I'd be happy with either, just thought I'd ask the expert :)
I like the regular Dart and the Dart 250 is nice but the drift is such an easy, gentle forgiving thing to fly....
@@Painless360 thank you so much for the quick response, you're awesome! Ordering the Drift now. FPV version is on backorder so I got the Kopilot and VC400 separate. Edit: in case anyone else is looking to purchase right now, it was only a few more USD to get the PNP version and the Kopilot/VC400 bundle separately than it is for the Drift FPV version.
Would you say this is better than the dart 250g. Could I order the kit and move all my bits off dart to this?
You'll need one more servo... This is an easier flyer and trainer IMHO..
Great review like always, so thank you. Do you need a separate battery to power the VC400? I see a JST plug in the battery bay along with the XT30 so thought to ask if there is a way in the kit to plug and use the flight pack to power the VTX in case it is time to FPV?
Or my guess is that the flight pack will need dual plugs (JST to power the VTX and XT30 to power the flight system).
The battery connector in ZOHD models all come with a flying JST lead that you simple plug the VC400 into.. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Oh got it, appreciate your reply! So the ESC wire in these kit comes with XT30/XT60 and with a JST plug for accessories. That's neat!
what kind of receiver does it has the FPV version? I have a multiprotocol RC, what protocol can I use?
Mine didn't come with am Rx, I'd check the listing for the one you are looking at.. Best of luck
@@Painless360 do you have any coupon code as your is old? Can you suggest the receiver, is jumper r1 ok?
Great Vid , will it fly ok in say 10mph wind???
I would be careful in winds like that. It really flies well when the breeze isnt there..
Great review again! Just ordered one myself. I need to get a battery and looking at 3s 1100 MaH, but what C rating are you using for this flight ?
You don't need to worry about that too much. It pulls so little from the pack...
Thanks @@Painless360, what the battery connection on the fpv pnp plane? XT30?
Yep
Does this use a pwm receiver? Or can I use an elrs receiver with kopilot? Thanks
Kopilot needs PWM or sbus so you'll need an ELRS PWM reciever... Best of luck
@@Painless360 thanks mate
I pluged my FrSky R-XSR that was working on a drone into the zohd and it doesn't work. Any ideas why?
Channel order probably.. Best of luck
does the esc bind ok with the radiomaster tx16s?
The ESC doesn't bind to the radio, the radio receiver does. Not sure I understand the question, I hope that helps.
Hi, I'm having a hard time deciding whether to use crossfire's immortal T antenna or crossfire's wire antenna. I would like to fly max 2 km with my drift but I don't know if the wire antenna is reliable enough for this compared to the immortal T.
Both should work for that use fine. I prefer the Immortal T as it is a lot more sturdy... Happy flying
@@Painless360 Thanks for replying, really appreciate it. I would also prefer the immortal T but it is difficult to mount vertically on the Drift (without the antenna touching the ground when landing), so that's the mean reason why I am also considering the wire antenna.
I have a t16 jumper multiprotocol radio and I have to buy a receiver, which do you recommend for this model (zohd drift FPV)?
Something small. I used an XM+ here...
@painless360 Is there any chance this would work with the TBS crossfire nano rx 6 channel adapter? I am interested in this plane quite a bit :) Also how hard would it be to connect crossfire to the FPV version instead of the PNP version? Thanks
I don't see why not but with the Kopilot you just need sbus. Happy flying
@@Painless360 thanks mate
A LOT OF BOTHER sums up this foamy. Oddly mine was bought having watched this video but like many supplied by Bangood it came with the tail rotated several degrees in vertical plane in clockwise direction - corrected by some filing / plus the wing connections took a lot of mucking about before working - see rc forums. Have not maidened yet as there is quite a lot of to/fro about CG. Additionally and skipped in the video is how to set up the kopilot - it needs the rubber in the channels selection and I have had trouble getting the kopilot stabilization to work - and on removing the control the auto stabilization is very minimal - again not sure why.
Hi, thanks for the detailed review, I see the esc has a jst connector and xt30, can it be powered from either?
JST is for the FPV..
@@Painless360 thanks for reply, I thought that but I'm not going to fpv this, just want a gentle sub 250g park flyer, I have a 2s lipo with jst connector, I do have xt30s I could solder on but do I need to?
I have to change the XT30 for a JST because all my 2s batteries are JST connectors. I am planning to run mine on an 800mah 2s. I've fitted mine with the Kopilot and fpv because I love the auto launch and return to home features. Lee, your videos are just superb, clear, concise and very helpful.
What transmitters will work with the PNP version? I have an Orange DSM. Will that work? If not what will?
Does anyone know, thanks?
You need to add your own reciever... best of luck!
I'm trying to use a Frsky RX4R RX anyone know what wires go where on the Kopilot lite. Molex connecter on the RX black, red and yellow that go to a normal servo connecter, then blue, red and green that have individual pins. what goes where on the FC. Feeling a bit stupid having to ask
You need to connect up the SBUS cable with the channel order on the radio set as shown. See the detailed setup video in the KoPilot series for a step by step setup. Hope that helps..
with kopilot setup did u do it as t-tail.?
Yes
Does the Kopilot FC connect with a micro cross fire?
Covered in the Kopilot series... check it out. Best of luck
are there any arduplane fcs which will fit in this model?
Omnibus F4Pro maybe - see my build..
What position did you end up having the Aileron and Elevator KoPilot Lite calibration potentiometers set to ? Knowing an approximate "value" would be really useful before I maiden my Drift. Also, what power level did you operate the ZOHD VC400 at ? The manual warns about possible overheating if operating at the higher power levels.
Thanks for the excellent video that convinced me to try a Drift as my first FPV fixed wing.
I left then in the middle for flying but this is such a gentle model that I fly a lot in manual anyway..
Were did you find the PDF for set up?
www.zohd.net/support
what other lipos fit in drift,
Lots, the issue is weight, too much and you can't get the CG in the right place..
I wonder why no rudder and landing gear?
I think because of weight saving...also, with the motor on top you don't need landing gear. The rudder would have been nice tho...I think I'll fly mine as a soarer and might do a rudder mod in future.
Because you don't need either of those.
@@TheRattleSnake3145 That with a rudder would be a perfect plane for sloping and take off landing touch and go landings..
Plus I love a rudder when FPVing with a fixed wing.. it gives you some yaw for looking side to side without banking.
I can't use the GBPainless code, have you a newer ?
That was the one they had for when the video came out. They extended it once but they all got used up. Make sure you have the bell notification icon selected so you don't miss out. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 thanks
Does it have OSD?
The Kopilot Lite does not but the VC400 has battery voltage, VTX settinga and timer..
But the GPS for what?
RTH
wild thought: inav this thing?
You could. You'd need a small FC though..
A small FC like the BrainFPV Radix LI would fit perfectly!
that looks like tight fit
can 10-channel FLYSKY be connected? 😀👍
If it's SBUS then it's easy to connect. See my Kopilot series...
@@Painless360 thank you 👍😀
Nice plane but definitly a beginner will not fly longer than 10 sec without direct help on the field.
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