He did not beat Pernell Whitaker. It was a robbery. Sweet P was the champ. Oscar did not take it to the champ. Now that Shane Mosley fight, Oscar got robbed. But the Las Vegas bets were so lopsided. Oscar had to lose some how.
a gladiator who did something nobody will ever repeat.win the REAL HW Title twice ,20 yrs. apart.if u told someone that would happen when Patterson won a 2nd world title(1st. man to do it ) in a yr.,they'd have said u were crazy.
joseph slemp The whole organisational structure of the sport hurts the sport. The promotors need to be relegated to just being promoters and the influential dominance needs to be given to Not For Profit sporting organisations. Like a central board to the different commissions, associations and other international boxing organisations. Promoters being able to control the lions share of the financial side of things is terminal to the sport being purely a sport. But like democratic parties having major financial backers that allow them to even gain power in the first place, who do you think the party will serve? The voter or the financier? Well in boxing, the fan is the voter, the promoters are the democratic parties and the sponsors are the financial ‘donators’ or backers. The judges are basically the parties parliamentary representatives, again, you think the bills they pass are purely in the interest of the voter, or taxpayer? Or more so for the financial backer of the democratic party they are part of???? Oscar understands this better than most which is why he has sold out of the sports ideals in pursuit of addressing his own financial interests. A true germ of the modern day sport. Cant stand him.
@ismee Very well stated. I never could stand Oscar. He was a privelaged kid in the boxing community from the time he was in diapers so to speak. I lost all respect for him when he disrespected an old Julio Cesar Chavez. A man who earned everything he achieved the hard way, the true way, the old way. When Oscar got old and Pacman gave him a beating he gave Oscar the respect Oscar never gave Julio. Oscar also once ignorantly said “Blacks can’t take it to the body.”. How satisfying it was for me then when Hopkins stopped Oscar with a single shot to the body and dropped him like a coin sack. Oscar has never had any class and has always been overrated. He came up beating a bunch of old men and managed to lose to every top fighter in his era. I will atleast give him credit where it’s due in that he fought all the dangerous opponents. He never cowered away like Mayweather and many others. I give him that.
@@muntee33 excellent post. Boxing the only sport I know of where the 'winner' can lose. Pathetic in all these years it will not get sorted.. They talk about corruption been rife in the 50s still is as far im concerned.
He was a great fighter! Fought the very best without being scared of losing which rarely happens with the current boxers who all want to be undefeated.
He ruined his legacy by refusing rematches with Sturm, pea, and quartey. Don't feel bad for his bad decision losses to tito and mosley. It called karma
Oscar could've been carried out on a stretcher and still won the Sturm fight. Nothing was going to prevent the Bernard Hopkins fight and all the money it would bring.
@badgershands “That decision looked taylor-made to set up De La Hoya versus Hopkins. (De La Hoya) got the benefit of high charity.” Ian Darke of Sky Sports, commenting on the decision
@@sagesarabia5053 Yes! The funny thing is that someone started yelling "BODYSHOT" over and over about 10 seconds before the KO. Then Bernard and Oscar go into business together right after the fight. LOL. Boxing can be hilarious at times.
I also had it 116 to 112 for floyd. That pernell fight was difficult to score because both fighters struggled to get off. Like you said, a judging nightmare
ODLH is one of my favs of all time. A lot of people bag him out but he was always entertaining. I really liked his upright and walk forward style, he threw good power punches from both hands and had a wicked jab. Didn't look so flash in ladies underwear but we can cut him some slack on that front, as I don't either.
andrewford80 he was great but he loses pts for beating one of my all time favs way past his prome. Julio Caesar chavez. Not Oscars fault but I took it personally.
Trinidad had already busted Vargas up badly that to me ended el feroz even though he still stuck around another 5or6yrs..he ballooned in weight n was a star that burnt twice as bright but burnt out twice as quickly.. When Oscar beat him it was a close fight til de la Hoya got him outta there, Tito barring afew rounds controlled the fight n that's when Vargas was at his best beating quartey more decisively than Oscar, Vargas was 21? when he won his first title in 98 n was basically finished by by 06..the 2nd fight v Mosley he was terrible totally shot.. shouldve been retired after Oscar..
Rich Muttsmusic all of his fights were mostly big and he fought most of his big fights against hall of famers in their prime something nobody has done since him
I had Pernell winning that fight as well..Pernell had in my opinion the most controversial loses in the history of boxing. Very disheartening. Loved both fighters but Sweet Pea is truly underrated.
Memories of watching these fights with my father years ago. He had Pernell winning by a few rounds, I had Oscar winning by a point. Father has Ike winning by one point, and I had Oscar and there was arguing. Tito I had Oscar winning by a bunch, and my dad laughed cause Oscar put the foot off the gas way too soon.
I rewatched it a few years back and didn't think it was the crazy robbery i remembered at the time. I believe on the rewatch i had it closer to a draw as well.
Yall must be blind then if u thought It was close cuz Oscar schooled him the 1st 9 rounds. I usually don't like to call fights robbery cuz most could go either way but that was a complete robbery. Tito did nothing even the 11 and 12th when oscar started to run tito did nothing. Tito was deer in the headlights all night getting lit up with jabs and combos he couldn't deal with Oscars movement.
@@josemezatorrez I had the 1st fight for JMM. The 2nd fight for Manny Pacquiao. 3rd fight a draw. And the 4th obviously for JMM. (Btw your the prime example of people overusing the word “robbed” robbed means there should be no doubt the guy won. But the first and third fights between Pacquiao and JMM could have gone either way)
True story Rummy, in 2004 Oscar called my father's escort agency in Las Vegas right before the Felix Sturm fight. He was looking for some girls to party with and my woman at the time was asked for it and she partied with Oscar. When she was done with work she called Oscar and I talked to him for a few minutes and wished him luck in the fight it was probably 10 days away. Oscar talked to me like a normal human being even though it was very awkward. I told him I was a big fan and watched all of his fights and always rooted for him. Everyone talks bad about Oscar now but I wish the fighters around today were like Oscar. He fought everyone he possibly could and he fought them in their prime who else can you say does that nowadays? Oscar was a true gentleman to me and no matter what I'm going to be a fan. Love your videos! I often think when I watch Oscar fight imagine if he was 100% dedicated? You never know how great he could have been and he was great but he could have been unbelievable.
Sure Oscar was unlucky against Trinidad... But when you box all night on the back foot and gift your opponent the last 4 rounds, don't be surprised when the judges burn you. Oscar has himself to blame for that one.
I rewatch the sweet pea robbery whenever i start getting optimistic about my life. The commission was behind him so tough. Oscar was a good fighter he just wasn’t great.
De La Hoya beat Mosley the second fight and beat Trinidad. I thought he lost to Strum and Quartey. A lot of his big fights were extremely close. Had these fights all been scored completely fairly, even with the loses, DLH’s historical standing would have been higher.
I scored the De La Hoya vs Trididad bout a DRAW, 114-114. I had Oscar leading in the fight 6 rounds to 3 after 9 rounds, then Oscar gave away the last three rounds, making it a 6-6 draw. you have a great insight on boxing, love your channel.
Anyone notice the size of those big red gloves Oscar made Floyd wear. Look like heavyweight gloves. He may have hurt oscar in that i believe 5th round when he landed the springing punch of the ropes and oscar did seem to drop down a little even with the big gloves.
delahoya avoided Forrest, winky, mckart, margarito, cotto and a younger Mayweather who called him out. he refused to give quartey a rematch ran like a bitch against Trinidad barely got by Whitaker Mosley owned him Mayweather stymied him
please more boxing history and fighter timelines!! your the best in boxing Rumsfeld!
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The Sturm fight, Oscar had no experience with someone with his size and reach....it surprised him, he was so used to being longer and bigger than his opponents.....Oscar clearly lost this fight; but with a mega fight scheduled with B-Hop, they gave it to DLH.....
They obviously didn't foresee Sturm becoming a force at middleweight for a number of years.
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DLH victory over Quartey is correct; he floored him twice, was knocked down once.....he landed many more big shots, he won that fight....there were times Oscar was beating the hell out of him on the ropes and in the corner; Ike never did that to Oscar at all....
Great unbiased reporting. I am now a subscriber to your channel. Thank you for taking the time to put together a great channel!! True reporting and commentation at its best. You should be an official professional comentator
There’s an informal tradition in boxing: no matter how well a fighter does, judges can and will take two points for “excessive running.” It’s unspoken, but it exists. ODLH probably lost at least three rounds on that alone, and Trinidad straight-up beat ODLH in four others. Sugar Ray Leonard always made sure that, when he was on his bicycle, he was throwing unmitigated power shots and putting together nice combos to go with them. That’s why he always won, even when he should have lost (i.e. the second Hearns fight). Oscar usually had the jabs (and sometimes the combos), but the power was hit-and-miss.
I mean you could always say....”if you give a couple controversial rounds to De La Hoya....the fight could go either way” fact of the matter is Pernell Whitaker whooped his ass that night.....wasn’t even close.
oscar was the kind of boxer that fought all of the boxers that was about to hang up their gloves cuz they was over the hill. they just took the fight away from pernell sweet pea whitaker. he couldn't keep up with sweet pea and he surly couldn't hit him. RIP SWEET PEA!!!!!!!
it wasn't a knockdown when he went down with Pernell. when you look at the aerial view you can see Oscars left foot get stuck with Pernell's foot. That's why Oscar got the decision.
Anon Anon I thought it was obvious, Rummy still thought it was a knockdown even with the overhead angle,it was a clear trip,I know the judges or ref wouldn't have seen that but it was clear to us,from that angle!
Rick's Giggle I just watched it from all angles. Id call it a knock down because the punch knocked him of balance. He couldnt pull his foot back because the punch stunned him.
One thing I respect about Oscar, is he's pretty honest if he thought he won or lost a fight. He was almost acting like he lost against Strum, and admitted Sugar Shane won their first fight. He got robbed against Sugar Shane the second fight and beat Trinidad, though he should have put the peddle to the metal against Trinidad and sought to finish strong. He didn't seem to have the same stamina after the Quartey fight. If he got the nod against Trinidad, his career wouldn't have been as enigmatic. Still a great fighter. He was sort like Evander Holyfield. He fought basically EVERYONE in his prime and fought them in THEIR primes. I put him just a notch below Sugar Ray Leanord, but still a great fighter.
The Trinidad fight was reminiscent to me as the fight between Thurman and Danny. It's not mostly that Danny strong armed the round from Thurman, but Thurman took his foot off the gas and moved more giving Danny chances to push the action. I felt the same was between Trinidad and Oscar
Rummy you giving too much credit to de LA Hoya in the Mayweather fight his aggressiveness wasn't affective at any point in the fight he was flurrying but missing everything it was a dominant win for Floyd I had it 9-3 I don't think 8-4 is bad but the rounds oscar won were close rounds that oscar only edged u can even make a case for 10 rounds to 2 or 9-2 1 even oscar stayed competitive but was being outboxed throughout the fight very clearly it kills me when ppl act like this fight was so close it could have gone either way or worse when they say oscar won it you scored it good but how was oscar ahead after 7 only clear round he won was 6 , rounds 2, 4 , 7 were maybe close but u can only really give oscar 2 of those at best IMO
The Sturm fight was robbery in front of your eyes. Of these fights besides Sturm that really pissed me off was the Whitaker fight I’m not saying this because Whitaker just passed away (RIP) in champ. It’s because Delahoya looked really bad in that fight. He was confused he looked amateurish. He couldn’t handle Whitaker plain and simple. His corner was confused and Delahoya NEVER dominated Whitaker at all in that fight. Whitaker deserved to keep his title. In the post fight interview in the ring Delahoya said he’d give Whitaker a rematch. I’m sure his management team told him in privacy to shut up and keep the title and RUN.
1). No I don't miss Larry Merchants analogies of the fights. That said, I realize your a De La Hoya fan but want to give you your props for admitting that you felt he lost the fight to Pernell Whitaker. Regardless of what others may say about De La Hoya I give him props for not ducking the best fighters out there during his time in the ring. We see way to much of that in today's boxing.
Let me guess....and the Chavez fight...and the Ramirez fight...and you probably even thought he beat Trinidad. Whitaker and his fans always cried “injustice” when he lost fights.
I agree, but his glove touched the ground after a punch. Regardless if it was a shot that actually hurt him or not, it should be counted as a knockdown.
Russ Hawkins Poor Lil Sweet Pea's eye that was damn near completely shut would disagree with your he couldn't hit Whitaker even with his hands down statement. Matter of fact Oscar had Whitaker on Queer street at least twice if I remember correctly.
I love how you make up history. The eye doesn't mean shit. Your ribs don't show injuries. Ask Oscar about the body shot Hopkins dropped him with. Did you see an injury? I'm sure you're smarter than that comment.
Russ Hawkins Talk about being smarter than your comment how the hell do you thing a eye swells?? Shit doesn't happen on its own. It's from repeatedly getting hit. Maybe if he put his hands up that wouldn't have happened. And why bring up the Hopkins fight?? This is about Oscar and Whitaker why even deflect attention away from that. Also you obviously don't know shit about boxing or you've never been hit with a liver shit. That shot placed perfectly, no matter how great a chin or heart you have, that liver shot is so damn painful all you can do is wither around on the ground like a bitch because it stops you from getting up.
JohnnyBur I've gained more boxing knowledge in my earlier years than you have in your entire life. You obviously aren't that bright. The Hopkins comment wasn't a deflection. It was an example of a fighter being stopped by a body shot without a visible injury. Meaning it's a more devastating injury than a swollen eye. I'm sorry that went over your head. You obviously are the one that doesn't know shit about boxing. Oscar also knows he lost that fight. As usual, he was given the gift win like so many of his other fights. Now you can go work on your learning disability.
I’m a Sweetpea fan, and I agree that while the decision was disputable, it wasn’t a blatant robbery like the Chavez or Ramirez fight. The biggest sham was the wide margin scores. If you didn’t watch the fight & just went by the scorecards, you’d swore DLH was fighting Reggie Strictland!
I respect Oscar because he eventually realized he wasn't going to get respect unless he fought the best out there after fighting a bunch of scrubs after the Whitaker fight. But he also represented something I truly hate about boxing: The judges will give the "Hollywood" fighter the nod if they can in a close fight because they know if he keeps winning, they and everyone else will keep making a lot of money.
So what I gather from this is that if you wanted to beat ODLH, you had to let him win. If you go out there to beat him, he will get the decision. But if you let him have his way, somehow, he will find a way to lose. I used to like him, but now in retrospect, he was an out of the gate fighter who bombed in the later rounds and hoped for the decision. He was entertaining to watch, but I wouldn't rate him among the best P4P to ever do it.
When Harold Lederman's is doing his unofficial scoring for these televised fights, is he at ringside watching the fight, just as the official judges are, or is he watching it on a monitor? I've just watched the De La Hoya vs Vargas fight and at one point he tells Lampley something like "...just like you said Jim..." so it would appear that as he's either sitting at the same table with the commenting crew, or has an ear piece in that's allowing him to listen in on the crew as he watches the fight live, or watching on a monitor with an ear piece so he can listen to the commenting. Is it any of those scenarios?
Gotta disagree with sweet pea being at or near his peak..in his previous fight sweet pea had to come from behind to ko diosbelys hurtado a heroic comeback for sure, but the de la Hoya fight was signed n sealed yet Whitaker still had to pull it out the bag, also sweet pea never had another win of note, a 93 Whitaker was the p4p master who 'beat' Chavez, so Oscar fought a Whitaker at 75% of his best. Props to both because I have Oscar as a great fighter but sweet pea all time great... Still a great piece as Im new to rummys corner I'll certainly be subscribing n checking out your previous Vids.. PS sweet pea had 2 tough fights v Wilfred Riviera b4 hurtado so he was imo on the slide 2yrs b4 Oscar.. Still all opinion eh.. We know wherever he is now he's schooling someone on how to hit n not get hit, him n Vernon Forrest having a great time with Henry Armstrong and all the other greats that have passed
To be fair, he never said that Whitaker was at or near his peak when he fought Oscar. What he said was, at the time, Whitaker was near or at the top of everybody's pound-for-pound rankings. But I agree, Whitaker's prime/peak was prolly '89, when he won F.O.Y. This fight was 8 years later, he was 33 years old, and in the twilight of his career.
I think that was more down to Diosbelys being a difficult style for Whittaker. He was very defensive in that fight and Whittaker is used to being chased, not chasing.
At 3:33 you can see the difference between accidental head-butt and what Victor Ortiz was doing during his match with Floyd. Stupid rule. I had Seat Pea winning as well.
Mosley never tested positive. He did testify in front of a court during the Balco scandal. Honestly, he used it for this one fight and all it did was bulk him up and slow him down.
I called the first GGG v Canelo as a draw because I knew it was set-up for a trilogy, or at the very least a rematch. I still watch boxing, but in recent years I haven’t enjoyed it as cynicism rears it’s ugly head.
Yeah it's sad for the real boxing enthusiast that money can have such influence on boxing campaigns. Like trilogies and such smh just fight for pride and balls and the money and all the other good stuff will follow....just dont have Don King as a promoter and you should be ok lol
@@moreofjosem5363 you're on the money. My favourite fighter is Tommy Hearns, as much for the way he conducted himself, let alone the ability as a boxer. Imagine if he had micro managed his career like Mayweather did, instead of taking on anyone and everyone regardless of the threat. His legacy has more kudos for it. Those days are long gone my friend.
In the last round Trinidads Trainer (his dad) told him that he needed to knockout Oscar or he was going to lose & Trinidad didn't knock him out & he still got a "unanimous decision" Right after the fight Trinidad was asked if he was going to give Oscar a rematch & he said that of course he would because Oscar was a great fighter & deserved a rematch... & then a few days later he said no rematch... & Oscar never did get his runback! I
I saw the Whitaker fight slowing the video whenever there was action, and I do think Oscar won the fight (won rds 2, 3, 4, 7, 10, and 12). You notice that there are a lot less punches landed by both fighters then what compubox, or the commentators, said. Example in rd 2, at 2:05, DLH gets credited with a right to the body. But the punch landed on Whitaker's forearm. 2 seconds later, Whitaker gets credited with a left hand, but the punch landed on DLH bicep. The rounds that I gave Oscar was because he landed at least one more shot then Sweet Pee, or they landed the same amount of punches, but DLH landed the power shots. Like in rd 7. DLH landed right hands. Whitaker only landed jabs. To me it was very impressive that Oscar was able to win a chess fight against a prime version of Sweet Pee. Pernell was able to turn back the clock. He was moving way better than in his previous 3 fights. He was like Oscar. They needed a great fighter in front of them to train hard and look their best.
Another great video Rummy! My personal cards: Whitaker: 114-112 (7-5), Oscar Quartey: 113-112 (6-6), Oscar Trinidad: 114-114 (6-6), draw Mosley 2: 116-112 (8-4), Oscar Sturm: 115-113 (7-5), Sturm Mayweather: 115-113 (7-5), Floyd
Huge respect mate, you make some great videos...I'm currently working my way through all the older ones I missed and I'm really enjoying your style and the quality of the analysis. Like I said: huge respect.
I love you videos, dude. Maybe it's the accent, but your voice does a lot to create an environment of some old school NFL films presents-type boxing documentary.
What you may have overlooked entirely is the fact that judges are biased and the sanctioning bodies are influencing the outcome MORE than the crowd. I personally think Oscar was on the receiving end of many gift decisions, but that ran out towards the end of his career.
The video we just watched clearly showed him being on both the bad and the good end of judging decisions in his 6 most controversial fights. The mayweather loss as stated is only controversial due to him winning more rounds on the cards than he should have.
What? De La Hoya was was robbed in the Trinidad fight he Tito used loaded gloves. De La Hoya was robbed of the Mosley fight because Mosley was on steroids. He KTFO out of Vargas who was also on steroids. De La Hoya is a legend , in. His prime nobody dominated him.
Oscar was one hell of a fighter and he is also still a great promoter he is certainly the golden boy you like him or not the man has had a tremendous amount of success in his career
JohnnyBur You obviously don't read. There are other comments on here agreeing with me including Rummy. Bye Felicia The wbc made up rules the benefit the cross dressing come head.
Pernell Whitaker may have been perceived to be at the top but at the same time he was well past his prime and you can see that he had slipped in the Hurtado fight.
RIP Sweet Pea 😇
He did not beat Pernell Whitaker. It was a robbery. Sweet P was the champ. Oscar did not take it to the champ. Now that Shane Mosley fight, Oscar got robbed. But the Las Vegas bets were so lopsided. Oscar had to lose some how.
Fk, I completely forgot that died 😔😔
So tragic too.. he got hit by a car for Christ sake 🤦🏻♂️
And RIP MARVIN HAGLER.
Whoa Oscar was a natural lefty that's why his left hook was badass
I need me a George foreman career retrospective.
a gladiator who did something nobody will ever repeat.win the REAL HW Title twice ,20 yrs. apart.if u told someone that would happen when Patterson won a 2nd world title(1st. man to do it ) in a yr.,they'd have said u were crazy.
W Olympics 68
W Ko Joe Frazier
L ko Muhammad Ali
W ko Michael moorer
L pts shannon briggs
Put name to grill n chill..
Salvatore Lucania robbed by judges to shannon briggs*
I agree he fought the best fighters in their primes you don't see that anymore
Exept for Chavez. It wasn't Oscars fault but Chavez was well past his prime.
that was a fuckin awesome era in boxing all around 👌
@@dirtyjew1974 chavez still wouldn't have won. chavez has never beaten anybody at oscars level.
Brrrtt
Camacho wasn't in his prime either.
In the long term, boxing judges have hurt the sport.
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The whole organisational structure of the sport hurts the sport. The promotors need to be relegated to just being promoters and the influential dominance needs to be given to Not For Profit sporting organisations. Like a central board to the different commissions, associations and other international boxing organisations. Promoters being able to control the lions share of the financial side of things is terminal to the sport being purely a sport. But like democratic parties having major financial backers that allow them to even gain power in the first place, who do you think the party will serve? The voter or the financier? Well in boxing, the fan is the voter, the promoters are the democratic parties and the sponsors are the financial ‘donators’ or backers. The judges are basically the parties parliamentary representatives, again, you think the bills they pass are purely in the interest of the voter, or taxpayer? Or more so for the financial backer of the democratic party they are part of????
Oscar understands this better than most which is why he has sold out of the sports ideals in pursuit of addressing his own financial interests. A true germ of the modern day sport. Cant stand him.
moreso the folks who pay for that bullshit
@ismee
Very well stated. I never could stand Oscar. He was a privelaged kid in the boxing community from the time he was in diapers so to speak. I lost all respect for him when he disrespected an old Julio Cesar Chavez. A man who earned everything he achieved the hard way, the true way, the old way. When Oscar got old and Pacman gave him a beating he gave Oscar the respect Oscar never gave Julio. Oscar also once ignorantly said “Blacks can’t take it to the body.”. How satisfying it was for me then when Hopkins stopped Oscar with a single shot to the body and dropped him like a coin sack. Oscar has never had any class and has always been overrated. He came up beating a bunch of old men and managed to lose to every top fighter in his era. I will atleast give him credit where it’s due in that he fought all the dangerous opponents. He never cowered away like Mayweather and many others. I give him that.
@@muntee33 excellent post. Boxing the only sport I know of where the 'winner' can lose. Pathetic in all these years it will not get sorted..
They talk about corruption been rife in the 50s still is as far im concerned.
Its a business
First time I seen your face brom No disrespect but I thought you'd be a older guy in his 60s lmao. A big network should hire you your voice is golden!
Without a doubt
His voice sounds like Brandon Tierney from the Tiki and Tierney show on CBS Sports Radio!!!
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Surely he has a nice voice, but in this video too much effect. In this video I can not support his voice for a long time.
I'm Rummy's Corner, and welcome to Jackass!
Same here!
He was a great fighter! Fought the very best without being scared of losing which rarely happens with the current boxers who all want to be undefeated.
He ruined his legacy by refusing rematches with Sturm, pea, and quartey. Don't feel bad for his bad decision losses to tito and mosley. It called karma
He was afraid of losing hence the negative performances vs Quartey and Tito. Credit to him for getting in there with those guys 👊🏾
@@joseiracheta3817 not karma
It’s not his fault the judges gave him those fights
Rummy's Corner Always give a fair shake ! Blessing to you ! My friend ...
Was that a floyd reference
I can't remember the last time I sat down to watch a 40+ minute long youtube video and watched the entire thing. Fantastic content.
Oscar could've been carried out on a stretcher and still won the Sturm fight.
Nothing was going to prevent the Bernard Hopkins fight and all the money it would bring.
@badgershands “That decision looked taylor-made to set up De La Hoya versus Hopkins. (De La Hoya) got the benefit of high charity.” Ian Darke of Sky Sports, commenting on the decision
lol Oscar toyed with him.
Oscar vs Hopkins was totally fixed. I met Floyd mayweather sr in Vegas once and he told me it was fixed
Watch that body shot. It’s obvious acting
@@sagesarabia5053 Yes! The funny thing is that someone started yelling "BODYSHOT" over and over about 10 seconds before the KO. Then Bernard and Oscar go into business together right after the fight. LOL. Boxing can be hilarious at times.
Shang Tsung my dad told me the same thing I had to watch the video and tbh that looked fake as hell.
I also had it 116 to 112 for floyd. That pernell fight was difficult to score because both fighters struggled to get off. Like you said, a judging nightmare
Wasn't difficult Pernell outlanded
him
He really won against Trinidad and the rematch against mosely
ODLH is one of my favs of all time. A lot of people bag him out but he was always entertaining. I really liked his upright and walk forward style, he threw good power punches from both hands and had a wicked jab. Didn't look so flash in ladies underwear but we can cut him some slack on that front, as I don't either.
andrewford80 lol
andrewford80 he was great but he loses pts for beating one of my all time favs way past his prome. Julio Caesar chavez. Not Oscars fault but I took it personally.
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Trinidad had already busted Vargas up badly that to me ended el feroz even though he still stuck around another 5or6yrs..he ballooned in weight n was a star that burnt twice as bright but burnt out twice as quickly..
When Oscar beat him it was a close fight til de la Hoya got him outta there, Tito barring afew rounds controlled the fight n that's when Vargas was at his best beating quartey more decisively than Oscar, Vargas was 21? when he won his first title in 98 n was basically finished by by 06..the 2nd fight v Mosley he was terrible totally shot.. shouldve been retired after Oscar..
@alltimebestatit ill always remember that fight and how Vargas came into the ring with a mariachi band playing "no me se rajar" by Vicente Fernandez
You and boxing legends have the best boxing UA-cam channels
motivedia : are you sure ??
Plus the modern martial artist
Lee Wylie and Bruce fucking vane
@@ComputerTechnology073124930 that proper fake voice no thanks recycled clips all the time
Officehanchoboxing is really good too
This is my first time on your channel. I hope you keep this series up. this is so unique no one is doing it. I love this channel.
This comment is from 3 years ago. Hows it going 3 years later? John. Jhon Doe.
Golden voice like yours deserves a better recording setup. Though this does give you a classic sound somehow. Either way, its obvious we love yah.
delahoya has one impressive resume
jim bo he lost majority of his big fights
@@richmuttsmusic2476 he didn't back down though
Rich Muttsmusic like Mike Tyson?
Rich Muttsmusic all of his fights were mostly big and he fought most of his big fights against hall of famers in their prime something nobody has done since him
@@richmuttsmusic2476 Oscar got robbed against Mosley the second one and against Trinidad o Floyd Mayweather
you sound like Ray Liottas Henry Hill in Goodfellas
Holy shit i knew i recognized that voice lol. Was bugging the hell outta me
Sho and the fuck do
Yeah at first I was like WTF,,,and then I realized I was like holy fu^*^^g shit he does!!!! Good call bravo!!!!
Someone should ask Rummy to say 'as long as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster...'
@Stephan X ...You nailed it..He did sound familiar, I could not connect
I had Pernell winning that fight as well..Pernell had in my opinion the most controversial loses in the history of boxing. Very disheartening. Loved both fighters but Sweet Pea is truly underrated.
The toughest fight was the one where he tried to conceal photos of himself wearing fishnet stockings. He failed. 😂
Memories of watching these fights with my father years ago.
He had Pernell winning by a few rounds, I had Oscar winning by a point.
Father has Ike winning by one point, and I had Oscar and there was arguing.
Tito I had Oscar winning by a bunch, and my dad laughed cause Oscar put the foot off the gas way too soon.
Sounds like your dad was a fan of De la Hoya... lol
I saw the Trinidad fight being a lot closer than what others seem to have seen.
Agreed I watched it for the first time in almost 20 years 2 weeks ago and didn't have a problem with the decision would've rather saw it as a draw
I rewatched it a few years back and didn't think it was the crazy robbery i remembered at the time. I believe on the rewatch i had it closer to a draw as well.
E Z I rewatched it several times and i didnt see tito win a round until like the 8th then the rest were back and forth
Yall must be blind then if u thought It was close cuz Oscar schooled him the 1st 9 rounds. I usually don't like to call fights robbery cuz most could go either way but that was a complete robbery. Tito did nothing even the 11 and 12th when oscar started to run tito did nothing. Tito was deer in the headlights all night getting lit up with jabs and combos he couldn't deal with Oscars movement.
@@ez5099 you don't know shit about boxing
Do a Pacquiao v Marquez video analyzing all 4 fights.
1st fight Marquez was robbed. Second fight a draw. 3rd fight JMM was robbed and 4th fight 🇲🇽👊🏻💤💤🚑
@@josemezatorrez I had the 1st fight for JMM. The 2nd fight for Manny Pacquiao. 3rd fight a draw. And the 4th obviously for JMM.
(Btw your the prime example of people overusing the word “robbed” robbed means there should be no doubt the guy won. But the first and third fights between Pacquiao and JMM could have gone either way)
True story Rummy, in 2004 Oscar called my father's escort agency in Las Vegas right before the Felix Sturm fight. He was looking for some girls to party with and my woman at the time was asked for it and she partied with Oscar. When she was done with work she called Oscar and I talked to him for a few minutes and wished him luck in the fight it was probably 10 days away. Oscar talked to me like a normal human being even though it was very awkward. I told him I was a big fan and watched all of his fights and always rooted for him. Everyone talks bad about Oscar now but I wish the fighters around today were like Oscar. He fought everyone he possibly could and he fought them in their prime who else can you say does that nowadays? Oscar was a true gentleman to me and no matter what I'm going to be a fan. Love your videos! I often think when I watch Oscar fight imagine if he was 100% dedicated? You never know how great he could have been and he was great but he could have been unbelievable.
lol wtf
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Sure Oscar was unlucky against Trinidad... But when you box all night on the back foot and gift your opponent the last 4 rounds, don't be surprised when the judges burn you. Oscar has himself to blame for that one.
Just found this channel... I'm a huge fan of boxing... especially the 90s.... excalent commentary!!!... may God bless you.
I rewatch the sweet pea robbery whenever i start getting optimistic about my life. The commission was behind him so tough. Oscar was a good fighter he just wasn’t great.
De La Hoya beat Mosley the second fight and beat Trinidad. I thought he lost to Strum and Quartey. A lot of his big fights were extremely close. Had these fights all been scored completely fairly, even with the loses, DLH’s historical standing would have been higher.
DeLaHoya did not beat Trinidad.. lolz
@@snpll7906 yea,he whooped him
I scored the De La Hoya vs Trididad bout a DRAW, 114-114. I had Oscar leading in the fight 6 rounds to 3 after 9 rounds, then Oscar gave away the last three rounds, making it a 6-6 draw. you have a great insight on boxing, love your channel.
Anyone notice the size of those big red gloves Oscar made Floyd wear. Look like heavyweight gloves. He may have hurt oscar in that i believe 5th round when he landed the springing punch of the ropes and oscar did seem to drop down a little even with the big gloves.
the thing is, the judges cant rewatch the match like you can lol
delahoya avoided Forrest, winky, mckart, margarito, cotto and a younger Mayweather who called him out.
he refused to give quartey a rematch
ran like a bitch against Trinidad
barely got by Whitaker
Mosley owned him
Mayweather stymied him
Mayweather ducked Barrera ,morales,Forrest,winky,hopkins,margarito,Sergio martinez etc ,cotton was 140 when Oscar was 147 what are you talking about
Hell no why you making bs up?
Mosley lost the second fight vs Oscar
Kony Lane Mayweather would have beat barerra easy. The morales fight would’ve been great but Floyd would have beat him too
@@dantedlane2 mayweather learned ducking from Oscar then. Cause Oscar ducked way more
Sturm got robbed hard
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Who gives a fuck DLH is and was never a true middle weight
Just like GGG. But that's boxing. All about the money. But your right
Jerry Phillips GGG wasn’t robbed at all the second fight was close
Setup/tune up/cherry pick fight for the rigged Hopkins bout.
please more boxing history and fighter timelines!! your the best in boxing Rumsfeld!
The Sturm fight, Oscar had no experience with someone with his size and reach....it surprised him, he was so used to being longer and bigger than his opponents.....Oscar clearly lost this fight; but with a mega fight scheduled with B-Hop, they gave it to DLH.....
They obviously didn't foresee Sturm becoming a force at middleweight for a number of years.
DLH victory over Quartey is correct; he floored him twice, was knocked down once.....he landed many more big shots, he won that fight....there were times Oscar was beating the hell out of him on the ropes and in the corner; Ike never did that to Oscar at all....
Great unbiased reporting. I am now a subscriber to your channel. Thank you for taking the time to put together a great channel!! True reporting and commentation at its best. You should be an official professional comentator
Oscars most controversial bout was against those fishnet pantyhose. 😂
Great video 💯
Photoshopped fake bullshit
There’s an informal tradition in boxing: no matter how well a fighter does, judges can and will take two points for “excessive running.” It’s unspoken, but it exists. ODLH probably lost at least three rounds on that alone, and Trinidad straight-up beat ODLH in four others.
Sugar Ray Leonard always made sure that, when he was on his bicycle, he was throwing unmitigated power shots and putting together nice combos to go with them.
That’s why he always won, even when he should have lost (i.e. the second Hearns fight). Oscar usually had the jabs (and sometimes the combos), but the power was hit-and-miss.
It's pretty funny how salty Oscar is about Mayweather x McGreggor, especially when you consider he pushed for McGreggor x Canelo
I mean you could always say....”if you give a couple controversial rounds to De La Hoya....the fight could go either way” fact of the matter is Pernell Whitaker whooped his ass that night.....wasn’t even close.
Bert Sugar used to call Oscar, Oscar "Never win the big one" Delahoya
oscar was the kind of boxer that fought all of the boxers that was about to hang up their gloves cuz they was over the hill. they just took the fight away from pernell sweet pea whitaker. he couldn't keep up with sweet pea and he surly couldn't hit him. RIP SWEET PEA!!!!!!!
In my opinion this is really really good. Impartial and objective, 2 qualities that are mostly lacking in boxing journalism/fans
Galey86 James Gale true they just pull random bullshit out of their ass
Mr if they ever need Ray Liotta's voice for a movie if he's not available. They should give you call.
Ya ur right lol
Lmaoooo fucking right
Good coverage, really enjoyed the vid..
it wasn't a knockdown when he went down with Pernell. when you look at the aerial view you can see Oscars left foot get stuck with Pernell's foot. That's why Oscar got the decision.
Anon Anon I thought it was obvious, Rummy still thought it was a knockdown even with the overhead angle,it was a clear trip,I know the judges or ref wouldn't have seen that but it was clear to us,from that angle!
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Anon Anon that one point wouldn’t make a 5 or 6 point difference
Agreed ... not a knock down. A trip.
Rick's Giggle I just watched it from all angles. Id call it a knock down because the punch knocked him of balance. He couldnt pull his foot back because the punch stunned him.
Oscar's resume is undisputed
kenny price you can't dispute an official résumé dumbass, its like saying "a fire is hot,that's undisputed"...!
If it's undisputed this video wouldn't exist
I dont see the floyd mayweather fight being controversie, I think the fans just upset Because floyd won...
Envy Thagod Floyd will only be universally appreciated when he’s an old man
One thing I respect about Oscar, is he's pretty honest if he thought he won or lost a fight. He was almost acting like he lost against Strum, and admitted Sugar Shane won their first fight. He got robbed against Sugar Shane the second fight and beat Trinidad, though he should have put the peddle to the metal against Trinidad and sought to finish strong. He didn't seem to have the same stamina after the Quartey fight. If he got the nod against Trinidad, his career wouldn't have been as enigmatic. Still a great fighter. He was sort like Evander Holyfield. He fought basically EVERYONE in his prime and fought them in THEIR primes. I put him just a notch below Sugar Ray Leanord, but still a great fighter.
I agree and Holyfield fought everybody twice. LOL
Blue&Orange That is true...He didn’t just fight everyone...but multiple times..
Blue&Orange Watching Holyfield fight will never get old either
Not entirely true. Oscar ducked mayweather when he was a lot younger and wanted no parts of him and waited till he was older. He still lost though.
How come it says this channel has no subscriber's ???
It says 90.8k?
Oscar's flurries are a thing of beauty.
The Trinidad fight was reminiscent to me as the fight between Thurman and Danny. It's not mostly that Danny strong armed the round from Thurman, but Thurman took his foot off the gas and moved more giving Danny chances to push the action. I felt the same was between Trinidad and Oscar
I always liked Oscar!! Always came to fight and fought the best!! Can’t stand his golden boy promotions but him as a fighter I liked!!!
Had it 114-112 sweet pea also
Lolol how ducking and not punching back
Kony Lane right lol sweet pea ain’t beat no Oscar
Boxing judges can't judge a southpaw
Rummy you giving too much credit to de LA Hoya in the Mayweather fight his aggressiveness wasn't affective at any point in the fight he was flurrying but missing everything it was a dominant win for Floyd I had it 9-3 I don't think 8-4 is bad but the rounds oscar won were close rounds that oscar only edged u can even make a case for 10 rounds to 2 or 9-2 1 even oscar stayed competitive but was being outboxed throughout the fight very clearly it kills me when ppl act like this fight was so close it could have gone either way or worse when they say oscar won it you scored it good but how was oscar ahead after 7 only clear round he won was 6 , rounds 2, 4 , 7 were maybe close but u can only really give oscar 2 of those at best IMO
Facts
Man great video bro not sure how I'm just finding this channel
mayweather picked him apart in the late rounds . made him look old slow and beaten
Brandon Murphy he was old and slow but not stupid.. you get to an age in boxing to where you body just won't do what your head wants
I Can't Think Of A Good Name So This Must Suffice 9-3 or 10-2 is not close.
that judge that had oscar winning vs floyd was probably the same judge that had canelo winning vs floyd lmao
Holy Trinity 😂
IMO Oscar:
lost vs Pernell
won vs Ike
won vs Tito
won vs Mosley II
lost vs Sturm
lost vs Floyd
and manny
Watch the Pernell fight again Oscar clearly beat him.
Please mention mosley on steroids 2 and oscar still schooled him
Edo tries I.F. I agree
@@huntexlee Manny made him retire. That was sad..
Oscar De la Hoya will forever be one of my favorite boxers.
I also miss Larry merchants analogies lol.
I loved how Oscar got robbed against Felix Trenidad, it was pay back for not giving Sweet Pea Whitaker a rematch...
The Sturm fight was robbery in front of your eyes. Of these fights besides Sturm that really pissed me off was the Whitaker fight I’m not saying this because Whitaker just passed away (RIP) in champ. It’s because Delahoya looked really bad in that fight. He was confused he looked amateurish. He couldn’t handle Whitaker plain and simple. His corner was confused and Delahoya NEVER dominated Whitaker at all in that fight. Whitaker deserved to keep his title.
In the post fight interview in the ring Delahoya said he’d give Whitaker a rematch. I’m sure his management team told him in privacy to shut up and keep the title and RUN.
Sure buddy
1). No I don't miss Larry Merchants analogies of the fights.
That said, I realize your a De La Hoya fan but want to give you your props for admitting that you felt he lost the fight to Pernell Whitaker.
Regardless of what others may say about De La Hoya I give him props for not ducking the best fighters out there during his time in the ring. We see way to much of that in today's boxing.
Sweet Pea won that fight. I'm still butthurt till this day about it.
Nope! You are wrong! Had Oscar winning 7 to 5! Let it go!
Not, Whitaker was on his bike all nite. Watcha taking bout
i feel you bro!
Let me guess....and the Chavez fight...and the Ramirez fight...and you probably even thought he beat Trinidad. Whitaker and his fans always cried “injustice” when he lost fights.
I remember having it a draw.
5:17 you can see Oscar’s foot is dragged out. Shouldn’t have been a knockdown
I agree, but his glove touched the ground after a punch. Regardless if it was a shot that actually hurt him or not, it should be counted as a knockdown.
sweet pea deserved the victory. He stood in front of Oscar with his hands down and Oscar couldn't hit him.
Russ Hawkins Poor Lil Sweet Pea's eye that was damn near completely shut would disagree with your he couldn't hit Whitaker even with his hands down statement. Matter of fact Oscar had Whitaker on Queer street at least twice if I remember correctly.
I love how you make up history. The eye doesn't mean shit. Your ribs don't show injuries. Ask Oscar about the body shot Hopkins dropped him with. Did you see an injury? I'm sure you're smarter than that comment.
Russ Hawkins Talk about being smarter than your comment how the hell do you thing a eye swells?? Shit doesn't happen on its own. It's from repeatedly getting hit. Maybe if he put his hands up that wouldn't have happened. And why bring up the Hopkins fight?? This is about Oscar and Whitaker why even deflect attention away from that. Also you obviously don't know shit about boxing or you've never been hit with a liver shit. That shot placed perfectly, no matter how great a chin or heart you have, that liver shot is so damn painful all you can do is wither around on the ground like a bitch because it stops you from getting up.
JohnnyBur I've gained more boxing knowledge in my earlier years than you have in your entire life. You obviously aren't that bright. The Hopkins comment wasn't a deflection. It was an example of a fighter being stopped by a body shot without a visible injury. Meaning it's a more devastating injury than a swollen eye. I'm sorry that went over your head. You obviously are the one that doesn't know shit about boxing. Oscar also knows he lost that fight. As usual, he was given the gift win like so many of his other fights. Now you can go work on your learning disability.
That's not what scores points and Oscar hit him alot more often .. Pernell couldn't find his offense
I’m a Sweetpea fan, and I agree that while the decision was disputable, it wasn’t a blatant robbery like the Chavez or Ramirez fight. The biggest sham was the wide margin scores. If you didn’t watch the fight & just went by the scorecards, you’d swore DLH was fighting Reggie Strictland!
De La Hoya NEVER had a REMATCH with these boxers who gave him a close fight. He is NO REAL "Champion." I can't respect that.
I agreed with him not giving a rematch to Tito cuz that was a clear robbery. He also fought Mosley and was robbed in the rematch.
@@CompaDeArranke ike quartey was robbed vs oscar
I respect Oscar because he eventually realized he wasn't going to get respect unless he fought the best out there after fighting a bunch of scrubs after the Whitaker fight. But he also represented something I truly hate about boxing: The judges will give the "Hollywood" fighter the nod if they can in a close fight because they know if he keeps winning, they and everyone else will keep making a lot of money.
I agree with most of your points here,
I gave Oscar all the fights but I clearly thought he lost to Sturm!!
I had Floyd 115-113
Oscar tripped on sweet peas feet. You can see their feet get tripped up on the exchange in the video.
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So what I gather from this is that if you wanted to beat ODLH, you had to let him win. If you go out there to beat him, he will get the decision. But if you let him have his way, somehow, he will find a way to lose. I used to like him, but now in retrospect, he was an out of the gate fighter who bombed in the later rounds and hoped for the decision. He was entertaining to watch, but I wouldn't rate him among the best P4P to ever do it.
Great video, I agree with you about 90% , GRACIAS. Please do Maywheter and also the fights between Marquez vs Pacman thanks you.
When Harold Lederman's is doing his unofficial scoring for these televised fights, is he at ringside watching the fight, just as the official judges are, or is he watching it on a monitor? I've just watched the De La Hoya vs Vargas fight and at one point he tells Lampley something like "...just like you said Jim..." so it would appear that as he's either sitting at the same table with the commenting crew, or has an ear piece in that's allowing him to listen in on the crew as he watches the fight live, or watching on a monitor with an ear piece so he can listen to the commenting. Is it any of those scenarios?
Gotta disagree with sweet pea being at or near his peak..in his previous fight sweet pea had to come from behind to ko diosbelys hurtado a heroic comeback for sure, but the de la Hoya fight was signed n sealed yet Whitaker still had to pull it out the bag, also sweet pea never had another win of note, a 93 Whitaker was the p4p master who 'beat' Chavez, so Oscar fought a Whitaker at 75% of his best. Props to both because I have Oscar as a great fighter but sweet pea all time great...
Still a great piece as Im new to rummys corner I'll certainly be subscribing n checking out your previous Vids..
PS sweet pea had 2 tough fights v Wilfred Riviera b4 hurtado so he was imo on the slide 2yrs b4 Oscar..
Still all opinion eh..
We know wherever he is now he's schooling someone on how to hit n not get hit, him n Vernon Forrest having a great time with Henry Armstrong and all the other greats that have passed
To be fair, he never said that Whitaker was at or near his peak when he fought Oscar. What he said was, at the time, Whitaker was near or at the top of everybody's pound-for-pound rankings. But I agree, Whitaker's prime/peak was prolly '89, when he won F.O.Y. This fight was 8 years later, he was 33 years old, and in the twilight of his career.
I think that was more down to Diosbelys being a difficult style for Whittaker. He was very defensive in that fight and Whittaker is used to being chased, not chasing.
At 3:33 you can see the difference between accidental head-butt and what Victor Ortiz was doing during his match with Floyd. Stupid rule. I had Seat Pea winning as well.
Sweet pea could dodge punches but couldn’t dodge a car
Sweet pea beat Oscar.
I'll give de la Hoya Trinidad and the second Mosley fight. He lost the rest.
I wouldn't argue that
That's the way I see it
+mtrujillo1973 he clearly lost to Mayweather.
+mtrujillo1973 scroll down this comment section and see how many people are saying he beat msyweather. Maybe 2.
+mtrujillo1973 well majority wins and majority of people agree on the mayweather win.!
Hey don't forget Shane Mosley was on steroids for that fight
Golon Wes so is every fighter, he just got caught.
Petey The Douchebag Mayweather was never on steroids
Balco
Mayweather was NEVER on steroids...prove it if he was🤷🏽♂️
Mosley never tested positive. He did testify in front of a court during the Balco scandal. Honestly, he used it for this one fight and all it did was bulk him up and slow him down.
This guy knows what the fuck he's talking about. This guy actually did he's homework. Beautiful. Just beautiful
Great channel!
Please do a top Welterlweight list, would love to see your insight on that!
Rummy's Corner - good show. This guy has a great broadcasting voice and makes some of the best boxing videos. One of my favorite youtube shows.
Growing found of your videos, keep up the nice work
I called the first GGG v Canelo as a draw because I knew it was set-up for a trilogy, or at the very least a rematch. I still watch boxing, but in recent years I haven’t enjoyed it as cynicism rears it’s ugly head.
Yeah it's sad for the real boxing enthusiast that money can have such influence on boxing campaigns. Like trilogies and such smh just fight for pride and balls and the money and all the other good stuff will follow....just dont have Don King as a promoter and you should be ok lol
@@moreofjosem5363 you're on the money. My favourite fighter is Tommy Hearns, as much for the way he conducted himself, let alone the ability as a boxer. Imagine if he had micro managed his career like Mayweather did, instead of taking on anyone and everyone regardless of the threat. His legacy has more kudos for it. Those days are long gone my friend.
One of my favorite fighters DLH
In the last round Trinidads Trainer (his dad) told him that he needed to knockout Oscar or he was going to lose & Trinidad didn't knock him out & he still got a "unanimous decision" Right after the fight Trinidad was asked if he was going to give Oscar a rematch & he said that of course he would because Oscar was a great fighter & deserved a rematch... & then a few days later he said no rematch... & Oscar never did get his runback! I
I saw the Whitaker fight slowing the video whenever there was action, and I do think Oscar won the fight (won rds 2, 3, 4, 7, 10, and 12). You notice that there are a lot less punches landed by both fighters then what compubox, or the commentators, said. Example in rd 2, at 2:05, DLH gets credited with a right to the body. But the punch landed on Whitaker's forearm. 2 seconds later, Whitaker gets credited with a left hand, but the punch landed on DLH bicep. The rounds that I gave Oscar was because he landed at least one more shot then Sweet Pee, or they landed the same amount of punches, but DLH landed the power shots. Like in rd 7. DLH landed right hands. Whitaker only landed jabs. To me it was very impressive that Oscar was able to win a chess fight against a prime version of Sweet Pee. Pernell was able to turn back the clock. He was moving way better than in his previous 3 fights. He was like Oscar. They needed a great fighter in front of them to train hard and look their best.
Another great video Rummy! My personal cards:
Whitaker: 114-112 (7-5), Oscar
Quartey: 113-112 (6-6), Oscar
Trinidad: 114-114 (6-6), draw
Mosley 2: 116-112 (8-4), Oscar
Sturm: 115-113 (7-5), Sturm
Mayweather: 115-113 (7-5), Floyd
Loved to the breakdowns here. Great work keep it up
Huge respect mate, you make some great videos...I'm currently working my way through all the older ones I missed and I'm really enjoying your style and the quality of the analysis. Like I said: huge respect.
I had Ike winning but it was a close fight and could have gone either way
Jason Stewart me too
I love you videos, dude. Maybe it's the accent, but your voice does a lot to create an environment of some old school NFL films presents-type boxing documentary.
Oscar clearly lost to Sweet Pea and Sturm, total disgrace.
Exactly they gave him those fights to make him the face of boxing.
@@frankaraujo5094 i mean they didn't just give them to him....he still had to fight, and pay (to win) lol
Sweet pea danced all night lol he didn't beat dlh
he clearly beat sweet pea, and he beat floyd
@@itsthemuscledad38 The second half of your comment completely discredits your opinion.
What you may have overlooked entirely is the fact that judges are biased and the sanctioning bodies are influencing the outcome MORE than the crowd. I personally think Oscar was on the receiving end of many gift decisions, but that ran out towards the end of his career.
Most his fights were fixed for him to win anything that came to a decision
Jason Voorhees JUST LIKE CANELO
The video we just watched clearly showed him being on both the bad and the good end of judging decisions in his 6 most controversial fights. The mayweather loss as stated is only controversial due to him winning more rounds on the cards than he should have.
What? De La Hoya was was robbed in the Trinidad fight he Tito used loaded gloves. De La Hoya was robbed of the Mosley fight because Mosley was on steroids. He KTFO out of Vargas who was also on steroids. De La Hoya is a legend , in. His prime nobody dominated him.
Oscar was one hell of a fighter and he is also still a great promoter he is certainly the golden boy you like him or not the man has had a tremendous amount of success in his career
116-110 was ridiculous against sweet pea. Fix was in for the Golden boy. I had Pernell 7 round to five.
Russ Hawkins Read all these comments, your the only dude saying Sweet Pea won, even Sweet Pea lifelong fans admit that on here.
JohnnyBur The only ones saying that are fanboys and casuals like you.
JohnnyBur You obviously don't read. There are other comments on here agreeing with me including Rummy. Bye Felicia The wbc made up rules the benefit the cross dressing come head.
Russ golden boy is disgusting. Thats why I cant cheer for canelo even though I respect him in the ring
Brian McIntyre That's bullshit. Cheer the boxer not the promoter.
Pernell Whitaker may have been perceived to be at the top but at the same time he was well past his prime and you can see that he had slipped in the Hurtado fight.