Thanks for sharing the fix/comments. I feel like INAV used to be quite a bit more stable for the main features. Now every time I upgrade to a new version, I end up spending hours trying to resolve a random problem with a core function like GPS, Arming, etc. It can be frustrating when limited time for the hobby is spent troubleshooting instead of flying.
Just installed a SpeedyBee F405 mini in an EDF jet with GPS M8N/Compass/Baro - I did the Acc Cal, the MAG Cal - for me in AU - no problem arming after locking 8 GPS sats. I would be interested in a much faster GPS lock if you ever do a GPS comparison lock shootout - and show us which is the fastest there in UK to get a cold lock. Good Work mate !
There are too many variables. Some GNSS modules do get locks quicker. For example modules using genuine UBLOX chips, like the Matek modules. But distance to othet electronics, the antennas’ view of the sky, other noisy electronics being on, and uncontrollable things like solar flares all contribute to cold start times.
Hey nice I did the right thing. Just have to say. Inav has came so far I started flying inav in the early days Been working on new build. For a year now. Life just happened so haven’t been able to finish it yet. I assume the same with you not having many videos. Is what it is bud. Good to see you back. I haven’t flew since last fall. Crazy last last year I flew over 6k miles. And nothing since. Plan on going today got some packs charged. It’s a sign from the fpv gods. That u uploaded this video. Thanks so much for all the help and work you have put into this. I would have never gotten this far without you. In your opinion what’s the best long range air frame? Don’t know if u remember me used to have pic of my dog instead of A
Thanks for the video. But you forgot the "pitot_hardware=ADC" option that could also cause a arming block on some FCs. Some FCs have the Pitot tube set to ADC by default in their target but if no sensor is attached, the free floating ADC can cause erratic data and makes the runtime calibration fail or take infinite time.
Currently, INAV primarily uses the pitot mostly for the airspeed displayed on the OSD. Full-size pilots will be accustomed to paying close attention to airspeed. INAV, and model planes generally, are designed to be perfectly flyable without paying any attention to airspeed, so the pitot isn't used much - yet. It may be used more in future versions of INAV.
As sensei said, mostly for OSD but Airspeed is actively used if you use the Dead Reckoning navigation on GPS loss. Then Pitot is actively used to estimate the position change and navigate back home without GPS (with some error building up over time)
Help please Darren, had original dji air unit on Matek FC with wtfos and sneaky fonts. All good. Changed to O3 Au and goggles... OSD all over the shop! Do I need change in CLI or in inav config? May be few finding in this position? Thank you..
And one thing more I have lots of quads with me I am fan of inav but I always faced one problem when ever I put my machine in althold it's little bit bump and hold altitude.
Hey mr D, quick question. I have had an emergency landing activated on my wing running the new inav 7. So far I have been unable to find the plane but still search. The emergency landing was self activated within 800ft of the home point. Will the plane enter its stated loiter pattern from where the emergency landing was activated or will it continue in a straight line on a shallow decent. I believe that my motor stopped due to it burning out so it would have been gliding at the time. Thanks….Rotorflex
If it said emergency landing on the OSD. It will continue in a straight line until it lands. It will usually do this if there was a problem close enough to home to not allow failsafe to activate. A burnt out motor will not trigger an emergency landing. INAV doesn’t know the health of the motor. Something else would have had to trigger it. Usually a hardware issue like RC link loss.
@@MrD on the day that it went missing the wing would have had a slight cross wind in the direction it was travelling. Would the gps hold it in a straight line or would the wing be affected by drift during its glide path? Thanks…Rotorflex
@@torquedude I don’t believe it will hold heading. I believe emergency landing is like angle mode with pitch corrections. Did you not get GPS coordinates on your transmitter? They should have been present until you lost RC link. However, losing like is more likely the cause of the emergency landing. What about the DVR from the goggles. That may give you a clue. You should have still had picture until almost the ground if it were that close.
@@MrD unfortunately no dvr, only osd on a black screen. I was using the runcam split hd, two different units with two separate power inputs so I lost picture but not osd. I recon my battery pulled down below safe voltage and shut the esc down and possibly the becs onboard the fc. Pulling almost 80A on 6s travailing at 187mph so will have travelled a fair bit before touch down.
I have a setup that had dozens of flights with INAV 6.1 and it does NOT have a barometer. After upgrade to INAV 7.1.2 I can no longer arm, eventhough I have 10+ satellites. Does this mean that INAV will drop support for Flight Controllers without baromether for wings?
It was never recommended to not use a barometer. However it will still work. One of the other settings must be wrong. Check the inav_max_eph_epv setting. If that’s not 1000, that will cause issues where you can’t arm.
@@MrD Thanks, checked, the issue came from the inav_max_eph_epv being set to 1 after upgrade to inav 7.1.2 from 6.1 . I'm sure I did not set it, it is not present in the diff file I made before the upgrade. It appears in the diff after 7.1.2 was installed and the changes from 6.1 appied.
Thank you it is very helpful. Is it possible to bypass the 6 sats minimum for arming via the CLI? I tought 3 or 4 sats should be the minimum for 3D fix. The four firsts sats are easy to obtain but the 5th and 6th are so loooong to fix.
What security? I can fly with my plane without sat if I do the action of the sticks and it works for non-automated flight. 4 or 5 sats should be enough to have the information type altitude speed, finally I think.
@@sebdewey That minimum is for the people that actually rely on RTH, you want a good home fix on RTH. For some simple speed readings it's also better to have many sats as it will improve the accuracy.
Yes, if you rely on RTH you need many more sats than the minimum 3D fix. I think it could be a good idea to set the minimum sats following your flying style and aircraft.
Flying without GNSS and flying with too few satellite locks are different things entirely. Without GNSS, you have no navigation modes. So the reliability of the GNSS fix doesn’t matter. For reliable navigational flight, the minimum locks you should have is 6. 5 you can get away with. But 4 gives bad data. 6 gives a small buffer before reaching the level where data is bad. It doesn’t take too long to get 6 sats locked. If they are taking a long time. Maybe you need to consider the position and/or quality of the GNSS module. As for relying on RTH. It may be that you need to rely on it, at the worst possible time. But, because arming has been forced it won’t work. For example, you have a video problem and stop receiving an image. RTH is the safest course of action here. Even if it is only for the time it takes your eyes to adjust to daylight outside the goggles. When you take back over LOS.
Hey sir I stuck in a problem which I didn't see . Actually I always use foxeer gps I tried q120,q250 but this time I try q180 on my inav version 7.1.0 every thing is fine it's fly properly but the problem is if I connect my gps with fc the beeper starts beeping battery is disconnected only USB cable is in computer its continuously beeps and If I connect the battery no beeps sound every thing is working fine it's fly well ,but my problem is this if it's flys well but it's cost me a lot to make I don't know if machine react wrong while flying due to this gps and one thing more if I disconnect the gps connector it's stops beeping .can u help me in this matter thanks in advance
Darren, can you make a video describing what's needed to connect wireless HT (Bluetooth) via elrs backpack function if indeed it's possible? Using Tx16S + Radiomaster with Rangemaster module. Home made Bluetooth Arduino HT, all working but hard wired!
Thanks for sharing the fix/comments. I feel like INAV used to be quite a bit more stable for the main features. Now every time I upgrade to a new version, I end up spending hours trying to resolve a random problem with a core function like GPS, Arming, etc. It can be frustrating when limited time for the hobby is spent troubleshooting instead of flying.
I must say,miss your Inav vids Darren hope work is treating you well......look forward to more vids,take care my friend.
Thanks mate. Hopefully things will be calming down after September. So I’ll be able to spend more time making some videos. Just in time for INAV 8.0 🤣
Just installed a SpeedyBee F405 mini in an EDF jet with GPS M8N/Compass/Baro - I did the Acc Cal, the MAG Cal - for me in AU - no problem arming after locking 8 GPS sats. I would be interested in a much faster GPS lock if you ever do a GPS comparison lock shootout - and show us which is the fastest there in UK to get a cold lock. Good Work mate !
There are too many variables. Some GNSS modules do get locks quicker. For example modules using genuine UBLOX chips, like the Matek modules. But distance to othet electronics, the antennas’ view of the sky, other noisy electronics being on, and uncontrollable things like solar flares all contribute to cold start times.
Hey nice I did the right thing. Just have to say. Inav has came so far I started flying inav in the early days Been working on new build. For a year now. Life just happened so haven’t been able to finish it yet. I assume the same with you not having many videos. Is what it is bud. Good to see you back. I haven’t flew since last fall. Crazy last last year I flew over 6k miles. And nothing since. Plan on going today got some packs charged. It’s a sign from the fpv gods. That u uploaded this video. Thanks so much for all the help and work you have put into this. I would have never gotten this far without you. In your opinion what’s the best long range air frame? Don’t know if u remember me used to have pic of my dog instead of A
Honestly, I’m loving the AR Pro at the moment. With my battery it has about 65-70 miles total range. Easy enough to with that setup too.
Thanks for the video. But you forgot the "pitot_hardware=ADC" option that could also cause a arming block on some FCs.
Some FCs have the Pitot tube set to ADC by default in their target but if no sensor is attached, the free floating ADC can cause erratic data and makes the runtime calibration fail or take infinite time.
Thank you! Changing subject a little, what is the benefit of using a tube to measure the wind? Does INAV do anything with this?
Currently, INAV primarily uses the pitot mostly for the airspeed displayed on the OSD. Full-size pilots will be accustomed to paying close attention to airspeed. INAV, and model planes generally, are designed to be perfectly flyable without paying any attention to airspeed, so the pitot isn't used much - yet. It may be used more in future versions of INAV.
As sensei said, mostly for OSD but Airspeed is actively used if you use the Dead Reckoning navigation on GPS loss. Then Pitot is actively used to estimate the position change and navigate back home without GPS (with some error building up over time)
Help please Darren, had original dji air unit on Matek FC with wtfos and sneaky fonts. All good. Changed to O3 Au and goggles... OSD all over the shop! Do I need change in CLI or in inav config? May be few finding in this position? Thank you..
Just found one of your videos covering that issue! Sorted... Great content.
And one thing more I have lots of quads with me I am fan of inav but I always faced one problem when ever I put my machine in althold it's little bit bump and hold altitude.
I want to make a spray drone with inav. Is there a way to trigger servos during a mission?
Yes, you can use the user actions. I have shown an example where a video is started recording at a waypoint.
Hey mr D, quick question. I have had an emergency landing activated on my wing running the new inav 7. So far I have been unable to find the plane but still search. The emergency landing was self activated within 800ft of the home point. Will the plane enter its stated loiter pattern from where the emergency landing was activated or will it continue in a straight line on a shallow decent. I believe that my motor stopped due to it burning out so it would have been gliding at the time. Thanks….Rotorflex
If it said emergency landing on the OSD. It will continue in a straight line until it lands. It will usually do this if there was a problem close enough to home to not allow failsafe to activate. A burnt out motor will not trigger an emergency landing. INAV doesn’t know the health of the motor. Something else would have had to trigger it. Usually a hardware issue like RC link loss.
@@MrD thanks for your reply. I now have a good idea of the area I need to search. Thanks again…Rotorflex👍
@@MrD on the day that it went missing the wing would have had a slight cross wind in the direction it was travelling. Would the gps hold it in a straight line or would the wing be affected by drift during its glide path? Thanks…Rotorflex
@@torquedude I don’t believe it will hold heading. I believe emergency landing is like angle mode with pitch corrections.
Did you not get GPS coordinates on your transmitter? They should have been present until you lost RC link. However, losing like is more likely the cause of the emergency landing.
What about the DVR from the goggles. That may give you a clue. You should have still had picture until almost the ground if it were that close.
@@MrD unfortunately no dvr, only osd on a black screen. I was using the runcam split hd, two different units with two separate power inputs so I lost picture but not osd. I recon my battery pulled down below safe voltage and shut the esc down and possibly the becs onboard the fc. Pulling almost 80A on 6s travailing at 187mph so will have travelled a fair bit before touch down.
Man bro miss the vids. I have no baro maytek 765 w inv 6.1 I just turned off barometer
I have a setup that had dozens of flights with INAV 6.1 and it does NOT have a barometer. After upgrade to INAV 7.1.2 I can no longer arm, eventhough I have 10+ satellites. Does this mean that INAV will drop support for Flight Controllers without baromether for wings?
It was never recommended to not use a barometer. However it will still work.
One of the other settings must be wrong. Check the inav_max_eph_epv setting. If that’s not 1000, that will cause issues where you can’t arm.
@@MrD Thanks, checked, the issue came from the inav_max_eph_epv being set to 1 after upgrade to inav 7.1.2 from 6.1 . I'm sure I did not set it, it is not present in the diff file I made before the upgrade. It appears in the diff after 7.1.2 was installed and the changes from 6.1 appied.
@@tipoman9317 that one seems to be popping up a fair amount.
Thank you it is very helpful. Is it possible to bypass the 6 sats minimum for arming via the CLI? I tought 3 or 4 sats should be the minimum for 3D fix. The four firsts sats are easy to obtain but the 5th and 6th are so loooong to fix.
The absolute safe minimum is 6 so stick with that.
What security? I can fly with my plane without sat if I do the action of the sticks and it works for non-automated flight. 4 or 5 sats should be enough to have the information type altitude speed, finally I think.
@@sebdewey That minimum is for the people that actually rely on RTH, you want a good home fix on RTH. For some simple speed readings it's also better to have many sats as it will improve the accuracy.
Yes, if you rely on RTH you need many more sats than the minimum 3D fix. I think it could be a good idea to set the minimum sats following your flying style and aircraft.
Flying without GNSS and flying with too few satellite locks are different things entirely. Without GNSS, you have no navigation modes. So the reliability of the GNSS fix doesn’t matter. For reliable navigational flight, the minimum locks you should have is 6. 5 you can get away with. But 4 gives bad data. 6 gives a small buffer before reaching the level where data is bad. It doesn’t take too long to get 6 sats locked. If they are taking a long time. Maybe you need to consider the position and/or quality of the GNSS module.
As for relying on RTH. It may be that you need to rely on it, at the worst possible time. But, because arming has been forced it won’t work. For example, you have a video problem and stop receiving an image. RTH is the safest course of action here. Even if it is only for the time it takes your eyes to adjust to daylight outside the goggles. When you take back over LOS.
Hey sir I stuck in a problem which I didn't see . Actually I always use foxeer gps I tried q120,q250 but this time I try q180 on my inav version 7.1.0 every thing is fine it's fly properly but the problem is if I connect my gps with fc the beeper starts beeping battery is disconnected only USB cable is in computer its continuously beeps and If I connect the battery no beeps sound every thing is working fine it's fly well ,but my problem is this if it's flys well but it's cost me a lot to make I don't know if machine react wrong while flying due to this gps and one thing more if I disconnect the gps connector it's stops beeping .can u help me in this matter thanks in advance
And I tried my Q250 foxeer gps than beeper not beeps
Sorry, I’ve no idea. It sounds like an issue with that GNSS module. I’ve never used the Foxeer modules yet.
Darren, can you make a video describing what's needed to connect wireless HT (Bluetooth) via elrs backpack function if indeed it's possible? Using Tx16S + Radiomaster with Rangemaster module. Home made Bluetooth Arduino HT, all working but hard wired!
Sorry, I don’t use half of that equipment. I was working on the Arduino head tracker. But my transmitter has internal Bluetooth.
Yes, my FrSky X20S has BT but thought there may be a backpack route for T16S.... Be nice as it's my fpv Tx.