Maya's view on Drinking in Denmark - An American teen's perspective
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- After the parenting video we did a couple of weeks ago, Maya wanted to provide her teenage perspective on the drinking culture in Denmark and how she adjusted. It is very different than in the US where the drinking age is 21 years.
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America : Shots fired 🔫🔫🔫
Denmark : Shots fired 🥃🥃🥃🥃
Spot on :-)
Now that's gold!
I got shots 5 times last night.😲😲😲
@@janlarsen7483 So "wasted" then?
Boom!!!!
The way you show Danmark, i tell you, you should be hired by the turist board, cause you show Denmark so well.
Actually not even a joke. They should be paid for this
@@Markus8Markus8 that would be awesome :).
@@Markus8Markus8 Well, technically they *Are* getting paid for it, through youtube.
@@The_Keeper ha, barely though. Not enough to cover the costs :).
@@Markus8Markus8 Nah. I like they are free to say whatever they want to say.
When it becomes a commercial, it's not interesting anymore
Can we all just appreciate the pronunciation of 'påskeæg'. That was quite good!
Happy easter!
Yeah that was very good
"..... chocolate... things"?
I did notice that to and it has both Å and Æ ind it, not an easy word.
it sounded great, except they put an S on the end because of plural, not knowing that eggs, in danish does not have S on the end in plural :)= its like money... more money is not moneys
HEHEH ITS SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN LIL DENMARK AND ITS REALLY REALLY GOOD !!
I went through gymnasium and currently uni without ever drinking, but still attending all the parties, and I appreciate how accepted it was/is that I made that choice.
I had this one friend at uni who would never drink but oddly seem like the most drunk person in the room. strange
Had a buddy who was largely 100% sober throughout all our Gymnasium experience, and he was honestly admired for it
Good on you for being you!
Yeah, and only at the cost of dying alone!
There is always the possibility of being 'socially drunk'. When everyone else is drunk so you naturally start pretending you are drunk aswell.
@@Markus8Markus8 yeah
Openning scene “Maya what are you doing?” “Drinking, it’s Denmark!” “I know, use a glass young lady, we are not savages!”
Weeeellll.... :-P
I’m a native Dane living in the US for the last 20 or so years. My is currently attending gymnasium in Denmark and the drinking culture was a bit of a shock to him. Even though we were always very relaxed about drinking in our home he was pretty well indoctrinated by school and society. It took him several months to kind of mentally decide that it was ok for him to have a drink when he goes to parties. His friends have all been very accepting of him and he has never felt pressure to drink when he didn’t want to.
I personally think the Danish approach is better than the US. Better to teach moderation and self control than just forbid.
I love y’all’s videos - make me think maybe it is time to return to Denmark 🇩🇰
It has changed for the better the last 20 years.
Exactly! 👍🏻
Imagine leaving a country, then sending your kids here for free (PAID!) education only to never pay taxes again here.
@@TonysLittleFavorite With a little luck the kid finds a SO in Denmark, gets a job, a mortgage and a couple of kids and bam they are hooked for life.
@@TonysLittleFavorite imagine being Danish parents paying taxes your entire life and then having your daughter decide to get her education overseas! My son getting to spend a year as an exchange student in Denmark is likely to cost the government less than if I had completed my entire education there (I completed all the way through to a doctorate degree in the US) Also we pay $500 a month for him to live at the gymnasium dorm so I am putting money into The Danish economy.
You should watch "Druk" the newly oscar nominated movie about drinking and gymnasium.
Just FYI : Gymnasium also includes SOME studying...
Citation needed.
Lol university is even worse
Maybe. I don't remember!
Todays topic: The effects of ingesting alcohol; A practical lesson
Wait what????
I have been living in DK for 31 years now and it took me quite some time to accept the drinking culture amongst the teenagers. I have always told my children to call whenever they felt unwell or too drunk to make it home, regardless of the hour. For years we hosted pre-parties at our house, living so close as we do to the local gymnasium. My husband and I would gladly drive our sons' or daughter's classmates in groups up to the gymnasium for the main party for those who didn't have their bike or didn't care to walk. I also appreciated how they took care of one another in quite a mature manner. Today they are all responsible adults with their own children. You have nothing to worry about.
Honestly that's the best technique at all, the more you're involved, the better. I got used to alcohol a lot around adults myself which made me comfortable around it.
You guys seem like awesome parents and you raised such a smart sensitive and responsible kid. I think that’s the best we can do as parents to protect our kids. As a danish parent I also have the same considerations and conversations with my daughters.
Thanks!
Another American moved to Denmark here. Even after learning Danish to a level where I can pass as a Dane in most situations and seeing myself much more as Danish than American, I still have a hard time with the alcohol culture. Quite an awkward thing to adjust to.
Especially strange is the sorts of situations people drink in. That is to say, any time there are people gathered, there is some level of drinking (Christmas, Easter, etc)... although that might be a bit more here in Sønderjylland than in fx Copenhagen. Cheers :)
It's more of a family to family basis, and it might even split between dads side and moms side. In my own family, on my dads side, there would atleast be 5-10 wine bottles gone by the end of the night + snaps, baileys and beer. On my moms side however, it wasn't that there was no drinking, but there was no getting drunk at any family gatherings - I'm from the outskirts of Copenhagen.
Drinking alcohol at holidays etc. are mostly traditional, like you can't have a påskefrokost without snaps, whether you drink it or not is another thing, but it has to be available lol
Oh no, Copenhagen here, we drink too. Particularly at various lunches, it is a general theme that you drink at these lunches and there are particular drinking songs and a saying that 'the herring has to swim down with snaps' and herring is obligatory for lunches. I have pictures of me tasting beer when I was in kindergarden and people started having parties with alcohol when I was 14. I know this sounds weird but to me at least it all just seems very relaxed.
Omega1231 got it right. It's not a regional thing, but a family-by-family culture. There are few teetotalers, though. Having a Julefrokost without alcohol would only take place in a recovery-setting, though Julefrokost where noone (or very few ) gets drunk are not uncommon.
I can relate sooo much with Maya. I am a native dane and I do not like to get drunk if I can't crach at the spot. I'm 24 and did only drink very little through out gymnasium. People were fine with it. Only 2 guys from my class ever said I should drink more. It doesn't feel like group presure when everyone else tells you to just do you.
Yea I have never had a group of friends in Denmark, where it weren't okay to say you weren't drinking, even if you normally did and one day showed up and said "hey I'm not drinking today" it has always been accepted, and it's a really nice thing in most groups I think :)
Love that you can sense the danish fashion on Maya :)
It's really interesting to hear how different the danish/euroopean alcohol culture is from from the US alcohol culture. As a dane i didnt give it that much thooght growing up, going through my teens drinking alcohol. But one thing i noticed though was in american teen movies, it was a major deal with alcohol at highschool parties, wich i found really strange, since in Denmark it's pretty normal for highschool students to drink. That in mind i think you as Parents are doing a great job with Maya, i can imagine it was really scary to ajust to the Danish culture, but Maya seems so mature about it, i think you are doing a great job rasing her, and teaching her good values. Thanks for another great upload you guys :) Take care
We in Scandi even have another culture then in rest of Europe! :) And we danes are the most drunk people on earth? I believe we year after year are the people who consume most alcohol :D
Alcohol = happiness.
No need for science we drink most alcohol and we are the happiest people!
@@AceHighAlbion We are not even top 10, when it comes to adults. The only thing where were somewhere near the top, is the average age of first time being drunk. Other countries have caught up in the last couple of years. And many danes cut down ont heir alcohol intake, when they turn 20, and they suddently have to pay for other stuff too, since alcohol is so expensive here.
@@herrensaar1989 Sorry but your simply wrong. Even though we dont drink as much anymore. we are still top of the top in the world.
www.thelocal.dk/20191121/why-danes-are-still-the-biggest-drinkers-in-scandinavia/
@@AceHighAlbion According to the link you have provided. Were not even top 15 among OECD member. Many countries outside OECD are drinking more, but are not members, so are not counted. And if youre outside the top 15, then you're very much not still in the top of the world.
@@herrensaar1989 There is like 250 countries in the world we are like number 10 on the list. Nevermind old boomers who dont understand stastics...
I find this video really interesting. As a German myself having raised my children in Denmark I remember the alcohol discussions very well. I have lots of sympathy for your take on this issue. As for everything there is also a dark side to this. By far not all young Danes are succesful in getting through this part of their life without bruises. I am sure you will, Maya, because you are dealing with it very well.
Having seen a few of your videos before I finally have decided to push the subscribe button.
Thanks, and welcome to the channel :).
Would you say that drinking in Denmark is much more prevalent than in Germany? Because it's also quite a big part of German culture
@@MsYolost I wouldn't want to call my point of view on this issue representative for every German. You are right about drinking also being part of German culture. But there are differences, I think. Most German parents I know are more restrictive when it comes to their teenager's introduction to drinking than most Danish parents I know.
@@Nils_Ki That's interesting, thank you
My now 25-year-old daughter drank a lot as a teenager. My now 17-year-old daughter never drinks. She won't even have a glass of wine on special occasions if offered. And it's perfectly ok these days. just 10 years ago, I think the peer pressure was stronger. But maybe it's just the social group you're with.
In my experience, it depends entirely on your attitude. If you're positive and open-minded, people don't really care if you drink.. But if you're a very quiet or self-righteous non-drinker, you're gonna have a hard time fitting in.
@@melanp4698 my experience is that, unless you were religious, you absolutely HAD to drink. I left my gymnasium in 2009. It's my impression that it's more acceptable to say no thanks now.
It is very important that parents explain and learn their kids about drinking. I think a ban (at least here in DK) will only result teens drinking in secret and then miss the tutoring from parents. It seems that Miranda and Josh is doing a great job in advising and Maya have healthy laid back attitude to drinking. Skål ;-)
EDIT: With laid back, I mean drinking is not that important to her, it's a secondary thing.
So true!
We had twins in our class who weren't allowed to drink until they were 17.
Once they were allowed they were hammered every party! They were drinking like everyone around them, but we (the others) had all slowly figured out what our limit was.
They jumped into the deep end and it definitely wasn't to their benefit 😅
I am danish and I didn't start drink until late.
I remember my first party I did the same with calling about being uncomfortable and walked home exactly like Maya ^^
I started to go to drinking parties pretty early compared to others. I was only 12 when I started and my dad always said if you are old enough to get to the party then you are old enough to get home as well so I really envy the people that where always able to be picked up by their parents 😅
I like how you guys can be so open about this - not just to the rest of us, but as a family. I'm sure it's part of a healthy relationship with social drinking for Maya that it's not something secret or clandestine that she has to hide.
(And I didn't really start drinking until I started in high school. So I kind of get what Maya's saying, and I definitely didn't feel any pressure to drink before I... Well, began to drink! If you're in a drinking game there might be pressure, but at a regular party you just drink what you want to - and you can always just have a coke with a slice of lemon and pretend it's a Cuba libre if people are getting annoying!)
The gymnasium graduation "road trip" around to everybody's parents is something different, though... In my class (1997) we had drinking games on the truck we were driven around in, plus drinks served at the 25 homes we went to. And it was... A lot! But Maya will have some years to find her limits before then, so she will be just fine. (And of course teetotaling or moderate drinking has become much more normal in the past two+ decades since I left high school...)
But as an advice to parents hosting these groups of graduates: They'll get plenty of alcohol, so perhaps a light-weight spritzer punch bowl is enough? And serve them some proper food so they're not drinking on an empty stomach... In my year it was apparently trendy to serve chocolate-covered strawberries, but what you really need is mini pizzas or quesadillas or ANYTHING that will provide a solid base...
Would be cool to see you guys' take on Christiania (Freetown). It's closed atm, but when it opens I hope you'll take a look! Very unique place
This family is the epitome of wholesome.
Thanks!
I have never understood the 'legal' ages in the USA, AND it's often a major subject for discussion between Euros & US citizens...
0 age limit in 30 States to own a rifle or shotgun
14-23 yrs in the remaining 20 States
16 yrs to drive
18 yrs to join the military/legally own a handgun
21 yrs to drink alcohol
Not saying that the legal ages in DK for drinking & smoking are logical, but at least 18, is the legal limit, for everything!
I guess, different strokes, right?
Good video, guys -completely understand the dilemma & the overwhelming cultural differences, but Maya has a good head on her shoulders..no worries 👍😋
Except motorbikes - I do think, depending on the size, and how early you got the license, that you have to be 21 to ride the biggest bikes here
What absolutely blows my mind about the American age restrictions is that you are allowed to join the military and parcipate in wars at 18, but you have to be 21 to drink! The Americans are essentially saying "hey you are now old enough to take lives and be responsible for multiple comrades in war, but we don't trust you yet to drink! It seems completely bacwards to me...
The age restrictions in the united states are definitely wonky at best, Bo's example of the military is a very good one.
16 states has banned Anthon Berg's liquor-filled chocolate bottles. You would probably get sick of chocolate and sugar before getting drunk.
www.food-supply.dk/article/view/28679/anthon_berg_moder_modstand_i_usa
the funny part about Denmark is that there actually is no legal drinking age. you are basically allowed to drink a beer the moment you are born, you are how ever by law only able to buy mild alcohol at the age of 16 and then at the age of 18 you can pick anything from bottom to top shelf :P
Maya... that is what we do in Denmark. We get drunk and make mistakes. If we can't get home on our own we call our parents. Everybody is okay with this. Even the parents.
Just to clarify it. Teens from 16 and above can buy beer, RTD and wine from the shops, but not in a restaurant, bar and café. And from the age of 18, they can buy alcohol everywhere. If shop's, bar's, restaurant ect do sell alcohol to teens below the allowed age, they can get a big fine. And bar's, restaurant's, café's can loose their liqour license. And if they loose it in that manner, it can be very difficult to renew.
I was going to write the same. former bartender and bouncer here. Serving alcohol to anyone under 18 is a no-go. even if the parents want to buy it for them, and are with them.
Just to clarify, 15 y/o aren't allowed to drink at bars/restaurants in Denmark.
They are not allowed to buy the alcohol.
@@viciouswaffle No they are not allowed to enjoy the alcohol at a bar etc. No matter who buys it...
Not like a bunch of 15 y/o can walk to a bar with an 18 y/o and get hammered
@@rasmusrasmussen787 If it's the parents who buy the drink it's legal, as far as I know. We have no legal drinking age in Denmark only legal age to buy, other than that it's up to the parents. My parents would buy me a drink when we went out to dinner before I was 18.
@@louisesvendsen3975 I'm sorry but that's simply not right! It's prohibited to serve alcohol to people under 18 at bars etc.
It's a so-called absolute! Meaning a guardian or a parent can't do anything to "overrule" it.
I felt like there WAS pressure to drink as a teenager, but also that my peers generally accepted my decision not to drink, when I chose not to. They did try to poke at me a few time like "Are you suuuure?" but I just smiled and said that I didn't feel like it. If all else fails; a beer can in your hand (filled with soda) easily fools all the drunk people :P
That’s smart but at the same time, kinda sad as well, I used to drink until a year ago, when I had to stop because of an health condition I discovered. I’m ok with people drinking, I don’t care about their choices, but what makes me mad is when people don’t accept your lifestyle and try to pressure you, if you’re free to enjoy your alcohol, I’m free to enjoy my soda, period.
I moved to Denmark at the end of 2017 from the UK. I was 27, but there were younger people in my (now husband's) family. It really did shock me when I heard the younger children swearing - it just wouldn't have been allowed in most families in the UK. Some swear words are ok in England, but as with all things it depends on the family and the parents as to what can slide and what can't. But that shocked me!
I found out that my husband would go to the local lake with his cousin when they were around 15, and they would buy beer and keep it cool in the lake. My mind was blown. For us in the UK, it's not as much of a leap, as the drinking age is 18, but it feels like a whole new world that you can drink when you're in high school here in Denmark, and it's perfectly ok and normal.
I also remember the first time I heard a swear word on the radio - it blew my mind. I remember turning to my husband and saying 'did they just say what I think they just said?!' as in the UK you are not allowed swear words on the radio or TV in the daytime. A lot of adjustments!
I'm just glad I got to get used to the adjustments before the possibility of children hahaha.
Have you guys seen the danish movie from last year called "Another Round" or "Druk" in danish? Very good :)
Not yet, but it is on our list! Just need to find some time, perhaps this weekend :).
@@TravelinYoung You guys could make a review of the movie. I have feeling you will find it interesting.
@@TravelinYoung Great movie! Worth a watch. 👊🏼
@@TravelinYoung maby video review it 💪
@@rowyisawesome Yeah - it could be their "try it on Tuesday" a film review of a Danish film - i like that =)
Maya you are a clever woman 👏🏻 the whole don’t wanna drink befor you feel comfortable is the right way
I've always had the benefit of being able to call my dad to come pick me up, 24 hours round the clock, no questions asked. He have had some good laughs tho X)
as a young dane that don't like alcohol, I have never felt like my friends try to make me drink, I have sometimes chooice to drink beaucse I think the drinking games are fun, but I habe never felt left out or judge beacuse I didn't drink, maybe I was just lucky with my friends tho.
Anyway awsome video as always.
I'm a 26 year-old Dane and I've never really consumed much alcohol. My personal record for a party is three cans of beer in a night (which isn't that much when you're 194 cm). I was just never really interested in it and I quickly learned, that once everyone else is drunk, it's rather easy to join them and get mood-drunk, so I still managed to appear quite drunk at parties, even though I never tried to hide my disinterest in alcohol. Even at Gymnasium, which indeed is well known for being a party bus on the weekends, a vast majority were accepting of my voluntary sobriety (and if you're secretly interested, being sober at a party is a very effective method of acquiring alcohol you don't have to pay for lol - everyone wants to give you stuff for free haha).
I guess what I'm trying to say is, that even in this country, where we're known for our drinking culture, it's mostly pretty easy to just say you don't want to. The thing people don't like is not sobriety, but rather people, who feel the need to point out how stupid it is when others indulge in alcohol, rather than just minding their own business (a notion that applies not just to alcohol, and not just as a teen).
Stay safe and have fun, people. Oh, and depending on the crowd you run with, uni is just as big of a party bus.
You guys are fun to watch, and it makes me think about what other things are vastly different between here and other countries.
Wow, Maya! Very very mature (and beautiful!) and shout out to you and your family, embrazing Denmark so well, I do hope we do everything to make you feel at home here!!
Thanks for your videos :D
You can drink in all Europe at a young age. For some reason only the US handles drinking and sleepovers like an Islamic country 🤣
@L M most modern, ehem... Have you been to Norway, Singapur, Hong Kong, Finnland, Sweden, Japan, ... The US is rather antique 🤣
christian Religion :-/
I love your perspective and how you embrace the culture in denmark. drinking in gymnasium can be wild, personally i drank the most in 2. g. and at the graduation period. But be ready for maby a little more preasure to drink in gymnasium, where i went we had several events throughout the month for the whole gymnasium to drink, souch as Friday Café and "staffet" or just beer at a soccer game. i wish you the best for gymnasium but i dont think i will ever drink as much as i did at graduation 50 "genstande" kan be a lot :)
In my experience from my younger days here in Denmark, it's true that there's not a huge pressure on anyone not wanting to drink, or just don't want so much. But you can be sure that people will offer to share their stash multiple times in an evening if you're not drinking.
And about getting picked up, it's not embarrassing, especially not if it's because you've realised that you had a tad too much.
As an example, I once had a colleague that got a bit over her limit, as good colleagues we got her onto water, ordered and pre-paid her taxi home, so neither she nor the taxi driver had to worry about a thing. And we only made funny comments about it from when she came back Monday until noon 🙄 it's really not a big deal. Everybody should feel safe amongst friends.
Hahahaha - the intro was amazing!!!!
"MAYA, what are you doing?"
"I'm drinking, it's Denmark"
Then cuts straight to the intro with Joshuas happy smile, like he totally approved 😂😂😂
So fun and interesting to watch!
waaaow, i am very suprised how well u pronounced "påskeæg". GOOD JOB! Such a hard word to be honest, æøå :D
I can't count how many times I've been picked up by my parents after a party and they had to haul my drunk ass to bed.
I appreciate them for it a lot. Hell, I'm in my mid-thirties and it's still happening (getting picked up. Manage to find my own way to bed now.). This past thursday my stepdad picked me up at a easter lunch after my car had had one too many drinks and couldn't drive home.
You never get too old for that, so might as well start early and get the most out of it.
Love your videos, looking forward to the next one.
Oddly enough, the place I’ve felt the most pressure from to drink is my own mom. I’m currently in my 2nd year of gymnasium (though there’s only been like 3 major parties because of COVID) and haven’t tried alcohol yet because I just don’t feel like it. My mom isn’t like an alcoholic or anything (seriously), she’s just really worried that I miss out on all the social stuff by not drinking which is one of the downsides of the drinking culture here. The first time she offered me alcohol was at my confirmation when I was 13 (it was just a glass of wine, nothing big) and since then she’s always been like “you know, if you wanna taste this beer that’s fine.... are you sure you don’t want to? Just a little sip”. Oh well, I see where she’s coming from and she would never force me. I’m rather happy being the sober one laughing at all the drink people though lol
I have a serious alcohol problem: my glass is empty! Aaaah Danish humor!
The drinking habits of our youth "maxed out" somewhere in the late 90's and early 00's. Just when I was her age. It was insane. Dont get me wrong; I had a lot of fun. But looking back it was a bit too much. I'm getting "old" now, but it does seem like these new generations have a much more healthy/responsible attitude. Maybe the fact that I'm male also plays in here. Much more of a "he who can drink the most and do the stupidest shit is the coolest" thing going on amongst males usually.
Very fun to watch these. (Dane living abroad - I watch stuff like this when I get a little homesick :D )
Or: "I don't have problems with drinking, I do it all the time" :D :D
I think the alcohol culture improved a lot the last 15-20 years.
I too experienced that era, although i was in the transition period in the early to late 00s and while the alcohol consumption got.. better? Drugs exploded, my gymnasium made rules about going to the toilet because a guy OD'd at a party at the school, and i've seen some shit at 18 year old birthdays that can only be described by living in nordvest. Back then it was amphetamines etc, now it's xanax and things like it.
Still of course, in no way compared to how people drank alcohol, but still, responsible is not the word i would use (but then, when has youth ever been known to be responsible and you don't really learn much from not making mistakes). Although i'd personally go with the alcohol even if it's at the levels of the 90s and 00s.
trust me when you work at a bar then you sometimes get pressured to drink at our parties and maybe its also because we get it for free sometimes.
ps i wrok at a pub in copenhagen where we normally have open 24/7 except for 2 hours from 6-8 am where we will clean.. much love from here
Regarding the second part. The easter egg's. It will grow on you, the marcipan thing. Once you return to America, you will miss it. On the good side, it can be made at home. It will have a slightly more corse texture to it, and taste a bit more of almonds.
Marcipan is da bomb :)
It's actually legal for parents to give alcohol to their children in many states in the US.
It is always interesting to see the perspective from outsiders; but it is super difficult to really understand the impact of the more liberal alcohol policy in Denmark. For example, young Danes are currently among those drinking the most; but while the young ones have kept drinking more, it seems they actually drink less when they get older. The generation that was born in the 1950'es actually peaks when it comes to grown up consumption. One thing that has changed, is drinking at work, which was quite normal in the 1970'es; but is almost non existent today.
It's NOT illegal for parents to provide their kids with alcohol. It's illegal for establishments to serve alcohol for children under 18, and it's illegal for stores to sell alcohol to children under 16/18 depending on the alcohol-level.
But it's perfectly legal for a parent to buy alcohol in a store and give it to your child, since we have no legal drinking age. We don't even have a legal buying age - only a legal selling age. If a 15 year old kid buys a beer at a club or in a store, it is the club/store that is doing something illegal. Not the kid.
I don't really like marcipan either - but there are tons of different påskeæg, they doesn't have to include marcipan (although it is quite common) :)
Just to be clear: Serving any alcohol in a public venue to anyone below the age of 18 is always illegal (illegal for the premise owner that is), regardless of who does the buying or guardian's consent. So, while you can legally buy (some) alcohol in stores at the age of 16 and drink it elsewhere, slightly different rules apply in bars and restaurants where you must always be 18 to have alcohol served for the purpose of consumption on the premise.
The classical Danish school system is focussed on preparing students for scientific careers (gymnasium), or humanitarian careers (lyceum) or political careers (atheneum). At middle school grade 10 a choice for vocational careers (artisans, traders, craftsman) is the alternative.
Nowadays this is condensed into 2 main streams, gymnasium and vocational.
Fun fact. in Prag (in the Chezh republic) they have a saying - "Lets get drunk like a Dane"..!
The danish teenagers have a european record (first place) when it comes to drinking the most in general, drinking from the earliest age and binge-drinking...maybe Maya should not embrace this part of our culture wholeheartedly, since I dont think it is something we should accept ourselves, but try to change. Of course peer pressure is hard to avoid, but maybe you need to choose your friends also based on their drinking habits. (i.e. values)
I don't really get this arguement, is it just a problem because we drink the most? or is it because we have problems stemming from the fact that we drink so much? because yes, we have a problem if you only consider the amount that we drink, but not so much if you actually consider whether or not our society is crumbling at the seams because everyone got drunk instead of getting an education, as an example.
The problem with the idea of the "European record" is that there are plenty of countries with a cultural stigma toward drinking before you're a legal adult, and if you look at the overall consumption of alcohol per capita we're much lower than the vast majority of Europe, we're 35th on the WHO list of alcohol consumption per capita. So the idea that, we shouldn't accept our alcohol culture because we drink too much, when the statistics are quite black and white considering where we actually are placed in regards to consumption of alcohol in the grand scheme of things, and not just when you isolate it down to an age where people in other countries are not allowed to legally drink, or even if it is legal, there might be a cultural stigma that might make people lie when they are asked how many times they got drunk in the last year, which is how these studies are done, is not a very well grounded idea, in reality.
This is why when you look at statistics, you have to actually look at the statistics, look at a few other related statistics, how the statistics were calculated and how the information was derived, before you can actually make an informed opinion, instead of just relying on whenever a politician says it's a problem that our youth drinks the most out of any youth in Europe, seemingly just because we do, not because there's an actually logical reasoning behind, like actual problems stemming from it - f.ex. being nr. 1 in alcohol consumption per capita, which we are far from, in fact we are on the lower end in Europe.
Im glad teenage parties in Brazil are just like in Denmark 🤟🏻🖤
Regarding the graduation trip: Many parents make sure to include non-alcoholic options and have a high-carb selection to offset the admittedly quite significant amounts of alcohol imbibed on the way.
Just love following you Young ones :D Maya i hope you will like the gymnasium and i getting graduated is one of the best experiences in my life. I would actually love to watch you all go for a vacation in America :)
uhm...the legal drinking age in Denmark is 16 (At this age you can legally buy beer and ciders in supermarkets), at 18 ( you are allowed to buy stronger spirits like vodka), stronger alcoholic drinks in bars are only allowed from 18 and up. But I think they didn't say anything because you as her mother bought the drinks.
It's so funny, because I've had my greatest laughs when I've picked up my daughter after a party and she (and her friends, I usually drive them home as well) when they've been intoxicated. Their conversations are SO FUNNY! You hear a lot of things that way ;)
That said, it IS hard to be at a Danish party if you don't want to drink, and that really makes you think. Danish = hygge = drinking. And when you stop to think of it, it's really kinda scary.
My Hubby hasn't touched alcohol for 25 years now, and it took YEARS for his colleagues and friends to stop asking if he was on Antabus, ie was he actually an alcoholic, trying NOT to drink. And no, he simply decided not to.
And it may be Danish to drink, but really ... it shouldn't.
Sounds like a little cultureshock to you Maya. Also great that you have opened up to the sleepovers
It’s quite refreshing to see someone with a more objective view on the alcohol culture among the young people in our society.
I think we all get hit with the depressing statistics from all around, about danish youths being the leading alcohol consumers among teens in Europe, Scandinavia, the world.
In my experience everybody but the young generations were the ones making a big thing out of it.
Since way back ... I’ve not experienced peer pressure or anything towards drinking being the cool thing. If you drank at a party you drank at a party. If not ... well, then you didn’t.
I do think however ... making it into an “illegal” thing, is a red cloth for about 98% of teens. Tell a kid it is not allowed, and they will bend over backwards to try and do it.
I used to be a kid, you know 😉
Your task as the upbringer, is to install the tools to let the teen make their own decisions. Once they go out the front door, they’re on their own. All you can do is trust and hope your teachings on moral has been enough, for them to make that good choice.
Listening to Maya speaking her mind about this, makes me think you guys (Miranda and Josh) made a good job with that one. She will be fine. There will be bad choices in between, cuz that is something we all do. But over all ... she will be just fine. 😉
Biggest difference having lived both places is definitely to be able to drink outside. Parks, daydrinking in the summer, etc. In the US its hidden away like prohibition is still on. It makes it so much less necessary to binge drink since you dont have a time to start and one to finish. With no curfew ofc. First running into the curfew in Boston was the biggest buzzkill ive ever experienced
Really interesting to hear Mayas side of this story. I think it would be really interesting to also hear her thought on the whole boyfriend/dateing thing that you also tuched upon in your parenting video. Like what's the differences there from the US and stuff like that. of course only if your okay talking about it.
But having traveled to the US a few times myself I really like these comparison videos you guys make. Best wishes to you and happy easter.
I can say for sure it was weird going through Gymnasiet and not drinking. (Back in my day 😂) But it's not impossible. You don't need to prepare for it, Just remember it's always fine to not drink if you don't feel like it. I ended up getting a little nice group of friends who also didn't drink during Gymnasiet. Så they do exist! Even though i know concensus is Like... drink more than once a week or something haha. I first started drinking i my twenties. And yeah it's fun as heck some times, but I didn't regnet not drinking in Gymnasiet. Each to their own. And I'm so glad to hear you're not getting pressured to it! I hope you're time in Gymnasiet will be great Maya! All the best wishes ❤
Great video! It would be so fun to hear your thoughts about the whole graduation wagon, drinken stuff 😁
Guys, you should have seen, what I've seen in 70/80's.
In some workplaces, folks were so hammered (stive) at noon, that they couldn't find their bikes, busses, mopeds, cars etc.
Some never went home, but went down to the local bar instead.
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I dont Think drinking or not drinking being Young is a Big issue in denmark. I have 3 children. Now they are all adults But I cant remember we ever talked about whether they were allowed or not allowed to drink. Maybe we r not a normal family😳😀But I remember some parent meetings in school where it was an issue. Should they be allowed to drink at school parties in 7th grade...... I Think it was. I have picked all 3 up where they were too drunk and sick. After the sickness we never Saw them so drunk again😂learning by doing
Tip for when you have to go home after a party:
Ask beforehand if there is space to sleep and take the bus home in the morning (many Danes do this, at least in my friend group)
OR ask some of your friends or someone you trust if their parents can pick you up as well. I do this with one friend, as I live alone and can't get picked up by my parents - my friend's parents just say "sure" and drops me off at home. The general rule, especially in Gymnasium, is that no one is left alone and when you are drinking. A lot of parents are aware of this and try as much as possible to help every teenager that needs to get home. It is implied at these parties, there will be parents/adults, but they will not be with the teenagers as it's not seen appropriate, but they will be there in case of an emergency.
It is dangerous to be walking home alone or a long way (especially when there is a lake nearby - there have been a few drunken accidents where teenagers drowned because of this)
But seeing as you live in Copenhagen, it should be possible to get home via bus/train/metro or cab (don't recommend cab as its really expensive at night, so only as a last resort) fairly often. There are a lot of night busses/trains in Denmark, even in the more "rural" areas. But I 1000% recommend you: Ask your friends if their parents are picking them up and if it's possible for you to hitch a ride to your house. A lot of the times, they will say yes if you live in the same area - and you might, as you go to the same school (or so I assume as its the general culture here)
And there are lots of good advice in the comment thread if you do not want to drink.
Interesting perspective. Thanks for the vid.
I have a friend from when I went to Efterskole back in 2015, and he didn't drink back then. He said the same thing as Maya, bout it's fun to look at us, insanely drunk teenagers as we were at the parties back then. So I could kinda relate to that, but from the other perspective haha
I really enjoyed seeing the boxes of 'Tuborg Øl' in the background during your påskeæg tasting :D You're basically Danish now!
I don't know if you have tried it already or not, but you should try the mead brewed by Mjødladen or Dansk Mjød. Most of the meads are great, but I can recommend the 'Kirsebær Mjød' from Mjødladen if you're into something sweet (It's cherry mead), or the 'Vikingernes Mjød' from Dansk Mjød if you want something a bit more traditional.
I think it could be so nice, if you would try to travel around in denmarks small towns. To show the diffrents between copenhagen, compared to a small like relly danish town, because i think a lot of people that arent from denmark, only sees copenhagen and get the experience of denmark only through copenhagen. But yea that was it, i just think it would be nice to see a video like that. Sorry for my bad spelling, im word blind so yea. keep up the good work.
For sure! We’ve been some places but of course challenged by all of the corona closures. Fingers crossed we can have a super active summer exploring more of DK :).
@@TravelinYoung That would be nice
Just commenting for the sake of the algorithm. Cheers
I have been travelling around the world, but only on holidays. I always enjoy speaking to Americans, the most friendly people in the world.... ( maybe the Japanese are close ) .. but who cares...
Drinking in Denmark is natural to us, seeing it from your perspective is fun and educational :-)
well welcome to Denmark, i am from malmö, sköne, and i am 15 and i have ben drunk more then 20 times, because we get the alcohol from Denmark, when we are party here in malmö we her a lot of hard danish music so welcome to denamrk i guess
I life on Falster in Denmark.
I don't personally think to often since I don't find the need to do it. I don't mind drinking at all and get "wasted" because its fun having stories to tell and experience. some of the greatest stories in my family different comes from when my siblings, parents and I have been out drinking and gets picked up by one and another. im only 20 but different had a few couple times where I was way to drunk compared to what my body could handle.
once when my father came to pick my older brother up at a party he had a orange juice with alcohol in his hand when he walked out todays the road where my father was parked waiting. My brothers orange juice slipped out his hand. But he tried catching in the air but he didn't catch and ended up falling over and landed on his face/chest straight in front of my father that was parked in front of him.
Being a teenager, it can be hard to stay away from the sometimes over the top drinking many young Danes seem to like.
However, the best thing is quickly to learn your limit or simply set a limit where you know for sure you are still in control and simply learn to say no, no matter what the others think or say.
The irony about drinking in Denmark compared to drinking in America is that Danes look at America and think about that you can actually legally buy a gun in America before you can buy a beer or a bottle of alcohol. To Danes, that makes little sense.
5:51 Notice the beers in the background
How do your U.S friends and familie think about this alcohol youth issue, and do they look differently on "you" and your "decaying" family values..?
Hey great channel,. I came to Denmark from the US myself, at 15. Though that was 1983, 😄 I can definilty relate, and remember very clearly how dealing with the contrasts could be, as a young teenager. I could barely speak the language befor I had my first beer here, befor my Best friend Tom( you know him too) forced it upon my pure americain soul( Im joking, I just like giving him a Hard time 😄) ..... But glad to hear, that your family loves DK too. 🙂Cool content keep it up
at gymnasium, they had, just a couple of years ago an old tradition called rus-tur(intoxication-trip) to shake ppl together- bond beyond class on the let loose with a lot and i mean out of proportion excessive drinkeng, wich is a intro week away from home & school, but it became illegal due to inapropriate behavior and sexual harrasment etc
Rus-tur doesn't mean "intoxication-trip", it means "student trip". But the rest of your message is correct.
Holy poo, that was a fantastic pronounced Å Miranda did when she said Påskeæg. Man I was impressed so much that I had to comment on the pronunciation! well done.
For the learning to drink bit. I remember my dad always made it clear to me, that no matter how bad, and such it got I could always call no matter how drunk I was.
And Gymnasiet = 3 years of boozing. Learning hard, study hard and boozing to unwind. Best parties I had in my life was at Gymnasiet. Then came University, and there was some good private parties, but never a good class wide party. So enjoy the Gymnasiet, after it, you are set with friends and its all private parties for the most of it when it comes to school situations.
Thank you! One of these days I'll muster up the courage to speak a bit more Danish for you guys. It's just really, really difficult for me to understand when people speak Danish back to me so Im not quite ready for conversations yet. It's frustrating because Im at the point that I can read and I can speak simple sentences myself but getting over the listening hump is tough!
Nice to see you for once without the speaking waterfall , allthough i like when he is talking about what is happening when he is there !
I think the philosophy of young Danes drinking early means that young people more often have a more mature attitude towards alcohol, YES they can drink "them in to the fence", as we call it, but they don't get the urge to drink every day, when they gets older.
you should try cuba caramel + cocio. it tast like the candy dumle. and if you can find cuba cool mint and mix it with cocio it tast like after eight chocolates. just be careful because it don't tast much of alcohol so you get drunk easily
In the US you get a car 5-6 years before you can legally drink, no wonder how people gets in all kinds of accidents being allowed to drive before you have learned how to hold your liquor. Other way round is so much safer.
Drinking Gajol shots is a lovelly but dangerous rollercoaster
Americans don't tend to learn to drink, they just learn to get bashed. This is because of the puritanical view of alcohol that is often seen in the US around drinking.
The general danish approach to alcohol and teenagers is - roughly - that it's better for them to experience and accept each others limits in a relatively safe environment surrounded by friends. Thusly, arranged parties like these weekend sleepovers in holliday homes or even bigger parties/events in 'forsamlingshuse' (community facilities that can be rented to accommodate larger gatherings like weddings, communions, birthday parties etc.) are quite common, because they have quite a few upsides.
From a parent perspective, we kind of know where our kids are. They are not scattered all over town in smaller groups when they party together. That way, they tend to look after one another - and should something go wrong, there are always friends or bystanders able to fill in the blanks afterwards, when trying to outline the course of events. Very helpful when trying to sort things out in the aftermath :-)
Secondly, Maya mentions the awkwardness og being picked up by ones parents ... which is in opposing contrast to how most danish teenagers (and their parents) view this topic ... at least where we live, that is ;-) It is widely accepted to be picked up by ones parents, and we parents gladly car pool when necessary to make sure our kids and their friends get home safe. It's a way to create a safe local environment for the youngsters to make their trials and errors approaching adulthood.
From (my) teenagers perspective, they get to party with their friends, team mates and class mates, hence strengthening the bonds between them in a more private environment ... which just tends to make the whole experience a little more on a relaxed vibe.
The intro got me LOL
The rules are simple. In a store you can buy 1.2% alcohol or above at age 16. 16.5% or above at 18. Picture ID is needed if seller asks for it. Age 18 to be served alcohol in restaurants, bars and similar.
It's interesting that you're kinda looked down upon if you're not drinking in the US. Could it be because the drinking age is so delayed that it gets "hyped up" to be something you HAVE to do once you're able to?
Vice versa, it might be that in Denmark, drinking is so normalized that it's just like saying no thanks to a cup of coffee to breakfast or something like that.
Anyway, am really enjoying your content guys, keep it up!
EDIT: I actually started "drinking" at the early age of 14, I lived in a small town without any crime whatsoever. I was always open with my parents about who would attend and then I would ask what I could take with me, usually it was only one beer, and then gradually moving up from there. One could argue both ways, but I think it was a healthy way for my parents to be in control, but at the same time let me be somewhat independent and learn my own boundaries without it being dangerous.
PRO TIP: when me and my pals go drinking, its mandatory that someone brings a loaf of ryebread. if things go south and someone drinks too much we provide with ryebread to sober them up a bit. usually they're good after 30 mins or so.
Coke will sober you up in 30 seconds lol.
im 31, danish. I can tell you that we get it out of our system early :D i rarely ever drink anymore, i just enjoy cozy nights with my girl lol.
We do?
@@AB-80X vi drikker som hul i jorden når vi bliver 16 og så får vi det ud af vores system , nogle bliver aldrig voksne godtnok..
i am guy and when i was a teen, there was a bit of "competition" between the boys, who could drank the most.
i try on english ... wot do you think abut danis weponlar .. vs USA sry my bad english .... on danish .. hvad tænker i om den danske våben log vs USA ... hvor man kan købe og bære storset aldt :)
Shes very pretty
Regarding Easter and something that was lightly touched upon, in yesterday's live stream:
How many days, if any, do you get time off from work in the US, compared to Denmark?
For Easter, no time off in the US.
@@TravelinYoung That must be weird, concidering Denmark is one of the most secular countries in the world, and the US, the opposite.
Funny that Maya feels, there's no pressure to drink. In some circles, there sure is a pressure.
I have a step son Maya's age, and he´ve been throwing parties for a small selected group the past year and a half roughly.
They do drink and play those drinking games too, and they do get drunk. Sometimes too drunk and get sick.
But we´ve always been there to keep an eye on things and help out, should things get out of hand.
I do remember one time though, where we were invited to my step daughters birthday party. (She had moved out before i got into the mix, and this was her 20'th birthday).
One guy (one of her friends) comes up to me, asking if I wanted to get in on the drinking game. I politely reclined, but then he asked: "But don't you want to get drunk, or don't you drink"???
My first thought was "Dude, you could have been my son, had i met your mother 20 years back", but what I told him was: "I've come to this party to celebrate my daughters birthday. I WILL party, and I will drink something. Heck I might even get drunk in the process, but getting drunk is NOT the GOAL. I´m here to have fun, and getting plastered is not the same as having fun."
I like to think, that I gave this boy something to think about, because as I remember it, he didn't drink quite as hard as i would have expected him to do. He eventually "went under", but according to what I heard from his friends, it took him longer than usual....
The trick to drinking (as most adults 30+ know) is to take it easy: Don't throw down shots like it´s candy (all though they way taste like it). Drink some water in between, or maybe just a pop. Sugar (from Coke and other pops) accelerate the absorption of alcohol into the body. Eat some white bread, if you feel you´re getting in to deep.
I'm happy for Maya, that she´s learning to navigate in the Danish alcohol culture on her own, and that you as parents are giving her the freedom to do so, at her age. And hats off to Maya for not diving straight into the bottle as soon as possible.
If you'll ever take a trip and see Denmark, please come to Herning, and I will show you around :-)
Love the content!