I don't blame how Infiltration plays this match up.. I mean this is Snake Eyes that you are playing, if you get close the match is over very quick! Gief is a nightmare to play against at the best of times, never mind the best Gief around.
+TheDoominatorST From what I've seen, the timing has to be right. If your even a little bit off, you open yourself up for a counter that could cost you the match.
I always wondered why snake eyes took U2 but never baited the dp with it lol i mean he clearly jumped at bad times and had the perfect ultra for the only answer oni could send. why take it and neveruse it?? pre collusion days?
I'm just a newbie in fighting games but from my understanding, isn't this how Oni plays this match up? Why is everyone saying Infiltration was playing dirty?
This is how ALMOST EVERY CHARACTER should play this match up. Gief is a grappler and needs to be close to you in order to win so it makes sense that you want to keep your distance while playing against him.
this is why i think grapple players should not be chipped..zangief especially..this guy is huge or maybe every two special attacks equates to one layer of chip damage.
how did zangeif actually break the game with meter when he had none....I've been drinking for two hours, but I replayed it three times. please someone explain that phenoma
GoDoBeastBro Exactly. Infiltration counter-picked because he knew Akuma was more likely a worse matchup for Gief (which was also evident from this years Evo against Tokido). Infiltration used his match-up knowledge to wisely avoid that. He's not a one-dimensional player that only sticks with one character and thinks hes just going to win everything with that alone. He has proven this more than once already: Evo 2013 Hakan vs PR Rog, and Ryu in many instances. Also, if you actually studied the match at all, Infiltration superbly outfootsied Snake Eyez at his own game. Watch how he maintains his distance outside of any threat from Gief, and then watch how he punishes him for it. Excellent spacing there. His use of fireballs was also superb here. As Seth Killian mentioned, he literally bled Zangief to death. Infiltration played this set perfectly. He deserved the win.
En eso consiste el juego,en aprovechar la distancia donde tu personaje hace más daño...INFILTRATION es un genio,juega con varios personajes a gran nivel(Evil Ryu,Akuma,Hakan,Chun Li,Abel,Hugo,Dhalsim,Decapre,Juri,Oni,etc.).
Infiltration is a good player but for that very reason i do not rate him. Why counter pick? I do not rate that from top players which is why i respect tokido, poongko, momochi, fuudo and the beast daigo. I don’t respect infiltration at all.
Infiltration unlike most pros can play any fighter in the roster if he can counter pick and win the fight why not? Snake eyes can change fighter as well. It’s just that like most pros he can only play 1 fighter well
@@Gianno_ same hate goes to nuckledu as well they hate him when he counterpicks but that's not illegal at all. I don't get this comment section, they're just salty they can't beat the cpu gief on their respective consoles.
Looking back at this old fight I have to say that Infiltration sucked against Snake Eyez...🤷🏾♂️.. his strategy was simply to make Him jump and get a possible anti-air or normal foot sweep or even medium kick but that's it no combos or skill ..just a Zoning match... Now of course it's ZANGIEF and u don't wanna be too close but u can still get some combos in as ONI against even the best of ZANGIEFs... To spam fireballs is to me the weakest way to play 🤷🏾♂️... But again this is an old video and tensions may have been high as well as nervousness and who knows if infiltration really needed the money 💰...but just off skill alone...he was lackluster during this fight
What a scrubby comment, this is not the SF you play with your friends, these people are actually good and know what they are doing. Try to be as good as zoning as this guy, I bet any competent player will easily get over it.
Balding infiltration was a serial killer at ssf4
Infiltration footsies are amazing
I think the fact infiltration picked oni shows his respect for snakes gief
Real. Couldn't risk it 😂
I don't blame how Infiltration plays this match up.. I mean this is Snake Eyes that you are playing, if you get close the match is over very quick! Gief is a nightmare to play against at the best of times, never mind the best Gief around.
Jonjo Brendan Hodgson it's not because he's playing against Snake eyes. The matchup wants oni to play like that
Man, I miss Seth on the desk. His commentary is always fantastic.
He and Sajam at Evo JP last week was a damn treat.
yes but Sajam sucks, James Chen is dogshit
Watching this again instead of boring sf5
Man there's a lot of scrubs in the comment section for this fight.
When Tobias pays me back.
Infiltration should have used Oni in grand finals.
2:20 no snake eyes didn't burn his meter
that green hand jebait at 9:38 tho
that was godlike
I would have like to seen Infiltration try his Hakan in this match,.....oh well.
This comment section is terrible. Probably the worst I've seen in a fighting game so far.
Look I understand you are playing to win but how do you sleep at night when you use Ultra cinematic to time out the clock?
It's a legitimate strategy why hating? snake eyez love this timer scam bullshit tactics aswell
lol... relax buddy, snake do this same strategy all the time....
MrFoxtrotpro because its so damn cheap!
When you're playing for money, pro tour points, your country's pride, and your sponsor's good graces, you do what you gotta do.
with money
What kind of controller does Snakeyez use? Interesting, must be one of very few.
Looks like just the regular madcatz game pads... nothing special...
I always wonder. Against an Oni would an EX Green Hand into EX Piledriver work well?
+TheDoominatorST What?
+TheDoominatorST From what I've seen, the timing has to be right. If your even a little bit off, you open yourself up for a counter that could cost you the match.
he couldnt combo into SPD in sf4 except off a stun or focus crumple
Greetings from obama
I always wondered why snake eyes took U2 but never baited the dp with it lol i mean he clearly jumped at bad times and had the perfect ultra for the only answer oni could send. why take it and neveruse it?? pre collusion days?
A slightly bad matchup =/= OMG SO BROKEN EVERYONE COMPLAIN ONI OP NERF PLZ
b33lze6u6 i main oni. oni is giefs worst matchup. like 8 - 2 oni's way.
Barry Duns
Worse than sagat?
his worst mu is gouken
I'm just a newbie in fighting games but from my understanding, isn't this how Oni plays this match up? Why is everyone saying Infiltration was playing dirty?
bc those scrubs dont understand this is the only way of winning against a monster like snakeeyez
This is how ALMOST EVERY CHARACTER should play this match up. Gief is a grappler and needs to be close to you in order to win so it makes sense that you want to keep your distance while playing against him.
infiltration getting ready for corona virus with the social distancing practice
It's hard to watch a good player loose a bad matchup.
They are both good players. So it's pretty normal
God bless your life
you should put oni vs akuma .
Should have worked the body a bit more then gone for the left hook.
this is why i think grapple players should not be chipped..zangief especially..this guy is huge or maybe every two special attacks equates to one layer of chip damage.
Nope. Grappler balanced by giving em slow move coz they can do really high dmg if they can get close.
Invert Brid yeah but they are too slow to even get close
@@will-jh7yi And that's why SnakeEyez never won anything ever.
@@doxyl4269this is just objectively incorrect? look at his stats on liquipedia
Lamentablemente asi se pelea con Zangief, pero excelente match
With every swish of water from Infiltration, "Too. Much. Shoryuken." xD
This is how a range win over a melee with Haduken
how did zangeif actually break the game with meter when he had none....I've been drinking for two hours, but I replayed it three times. please someone explain that phenoma
it happens at the end of first round
@@jacksonferretti3159 He has meter... Look at the bottom right
I'm confused
I was drinking heavily that night lol
@@jacksonferretti3159 lolll
wow no one uses one what's the point of him
Oni vs evil ryu
snake eyez should just invest his time in a new character
5:05 , pretty funny
winner
A great player will find away to get around a bad match up.
Unless it is Guile vs. Dictator... That shit just flat out sucks.
dabearsman72 bad for who? (Sry I don't know these machups
jawwer12 Dictator had a HELL of a time getting one win against Guile in AE 2012 though I don't about Ultra thus far.
It's a nice idea, but if they're playing against someone who is equally skilled, knows the matchup, and plays it correctly, it won't matter.
Infiltration IS SO DIRTY
If only Oni returned in SF6 to whip Snake Eyes' Zangief again. That would demoralize that budgie smuggler a little.
No blind pick? What kind of bullshit is that?
LegendaryZody it was, it's just that snake eyes only has 1 character
seth is so bias its crazy
これ見ると眠くなる😅
That ain’t the punish on hit dude
i hate zoners... in any game i hate them...
Snake eyes 🐐
O RYU E PARESIDO COM O ONI
Fireballs are so cheap in a fighting game might as well be a shooter
malisimo el oni lo unico q hace es tirar podersitos
a pad player? nani?
Boooooring
Low class infiltration
SnakeEyez deserved that win.
No, no he didn't.
How so? He was counter picked (Obviously stated in the beginning) and he was more aggressive than Infiltration.
GoDoBeastBro Exactly. Infiltration counter-picked because he knew Akuma was more likely a worse matchup for Gief (which was also evident from this years Evo against Tokido). Infiltration used his match-up knowledge to wisely avoid that. He's not a one-dimensional player that only sticks with one character and thinks hes just going to win everything with that alone. He has proven this more than once already: Evo 2013 Hakan vs PR Rog, and Ryu in many instances. Also, if you actually studied the match at all, Infiltration superbly outfootsied Snake Eyez at his own game. Watch how he maintains his distance outside of any threat from Gief, and then watch how he punishes him for it. Excellent spacing there. His use of fireballs was also superb here. As Seth Killian mentioned, he literally bled Zangief to death. Infiltration played this set perfectly. He deserved the win.
more excuses snake eyez getting more and more excuses than smug
how so?
lame the fight was unfair just throwing hadou.
bruh are you new?
ANGRY JERRY he probably is.
Scrub detected
Gief was really ass, hes a much better character now
Infiltration es muy cobarde... solo lanza ataques de lejos .. aburrido
si estuvieras en esa situación, harías lo mismo
En eso consiste el juego,en aprovechar la distancia donde tu personaje hace más daño...INFILTRATION es un genio,juega con varios personajes a gran nivel(Evil Ryu,Akuma,Hakan,Chun Li,Abel,Hugo,Dhalsim,Decapre,Juri,Oni,etc.).
Está peleando contra un grappler, que esperas?
Hadouhadouhadouhadouhadouhadou.... lamest strategy eva.
Mr. Marino nobody cares
@@williamhancock7756 I do. That`s why I said. lol
@Fwuffycodbunny Hum he `s supposed to use OTHER tactics. Not only MAGIC BALLS. Dig it?
@Fwuffycodbunny I do. But I would like to watch more players trying too.
@Fwuffycodbunny I did it already. This was really boring.
Infiltration is a good player but for that very reason i do not rate him. Why counter pick? I do not rate that from top players which is why i respect tokido, poongko, momochi, fuudo and the beast daigo. I don’t respect infiltration at all.
Infiltration unlike most pros can play any fighter in the roster if he can counter pick and win the fight why not? Snake eyes can change fighter as well. It’s just that like most pros he can only play 1 fighter well
So coz he can do what most ppl cant and u dont respect him? Lol
@@Gianno_ same hate goes to nuckledu as well they hate him when he counterpicks but that's not illegal at all. I don't get this comment section, they're just salty they can't beat the cpu gief on their respective consoles.
@@jamesdeanfuertes7569 Yeah if anything Infiltration should get more respect for being able to play so many different characters competitively.
Looking back at this old fight I have to say that Infiltration sucked against Snake Eyez...🤷🏾♂️.. his strategy was simply to make Him jump and get a possible anti-air or normal foot sweep or even medium kick but that's it no combos or skill ..just a Zoning match... Now of course it's ZANGIEF and u don't wanna be too close but u can still get some combos in as ONI against even the best of ZANGIEFs... To spam fireballs is to me the weakest way to play 🤷🏾♂️... But again this is an old video and tensions may have been high as well as nervousness and who knows if infiltration really needed the money 💰...but just off skill alone...he was lackluster during this fight
What a scrubby comment, this is not the SF you play with your friends, these people are actually good and know what they are doing. Try to be as good as zoning as this guy, I bet any competent player will easily get over it.
do you think diving face first against gief is a good idea? zoners plays like that and you cannot beg anyone play the way zangief wants to play.
This attitude is why infiltration won tournaments and you didn’t
Funny his name is infiltration but all he does sits back spamming fireballs and runs like a coward lmao
Can't respect someone who plays like the way ONI is playing. Zzzzzz
You must hate sfv daigo.
It's hard to watch a good player loose a bad matchup.