F1+2 should be minus 10 at least or it needs to lose its tracking something cuz im a tekken king steve max and i picked him up 100 matches tekken king clive and f1+2 carried me so hard it physically hurt me.
i think the tracking is the bigger problem and makes it as dumb as it is. it's like an omniversion of a mishima ff2, or that bryan mid qcf move (that is deceptively hard to step). i think if you make it -10 clive will be truly terrible. also it shouldn't launch from heat (then again i am of the opinion that every pmuch heat launcher should be deleted lol)
If f1+2 is that mid, mid Heat Engager, then *something* about it needs addressing. Mid, mid, incredible range, good speed, wall splats, tracks both ways, launcher in Heat, and it's safe. Drag's qcf4 is an ignant ass move, and it doesn't do all of that. Behold, K-Wiss' thunderous war cry. 18:22 - 18:25 Majestic, isn't it? "Does Clive understand German?" He understands Japanese. Joining Tekken automatically means he gains the ability to understand any language. I'm feeling that Lidia custom, not gonna lie. I still don't know how I feel about about this character, yet.
So thats how these "pRo" players do it. They get the newest dlc character that most people dont know how to deal with and cheese wins untill the god rank got it.
they "cheese wins" by outplaying people's spacing and timing, and by having extremely good defensive knowledge (they're ducking highs, they're punishing pmuch everything correctly, etc.)... as they can do with any character. yeh there's a bit of knowledge-checking but when you're at these ranks there's no excuse for not learning the match-up asap. i mean if it's so easy to "cheese wins" why don't you do it too
This guy comes across as a real snob and elitist. Maybe its just how he speaks I dunno. 3:45 "I dont know why this guy's rematching though" Because it's cool of him to play out the set you snob. Be a bit more humble.
Did you even watch the set lol? The dude was ki-charging, t bagging and being disrespectful and then HE left after getting one win in the set and didn’t play it out lmaoo
F1+2 should be minus 10 at least or it needs to lose its tracking something cuz im a tekken king steve max and i picked him up 100 matches tekken king clive and f1+2 carried me so hard it physically hurt me.
The tracking is the problem besides that and maybe it's range everyone in the game has some variant of a safe mid heat engager
i think the tracking is the bigger problem and makes it as dumb as it is. it's like an omniversion of a mishima ff2, or that bryan mid qcf move (that is deceptively hard to step). i think if you make it -10 clive will be truly terrible. also it shouldn't launch from heat (then again i am of the opinion that every pmuch heat launcher should be deleted lol)
That drag in the beginning was nutso lmao
Damn that first drag was not afraid to die, no backs dashes at all
Idk if people talk about it enough, but man that outro goes HARD. PRESSURE? WHAT PRESSURE!
That wifi matches with Raven got more good connection than my wired connection.
If f1+2 is that mid, mid Heat Engager, then *something* about it needs addressing. Mid, mid, incredible range, good speed, wall splats, tracks both ways, launcher in Heat, and it's safe. Drag's qcf4 is an ignant ass move, and it doesn't do all of that.
Behold, K-Wiss' thunderous war cry. 18:22 - 18:25 Majestic, isn't it?
"Does Clive understand German?" He understands Japanese. Joining Tekken automatically means he gains the ability to understand any language.
I'm feeling that Lidia custom, not gonna lie.
I still don't know how I feel about about this character, yet.
It's funny that sneak 4 pretty much does all that, just exchange tracks both ways for massive advantage on block and that's about it.
@@slippers8000it also hits grounded another thing f+1+2 doesnt do.
The biggest problem with qcf 4 in my opinion is that it hits grounded
Sneak 4 is worse lmao. Did you all forget that it used to leave drag point blank and also wallsplated as well as acted as the best spike endear
@tabkg5802 Did I say Clive's f1+2 was better Drag's qcf4? No? Didn't think so. Lmao.
That drag was hella disrespectful lol
Think F1+2 is gonna get nerfed?
How minus is it? Should be -9 at least right?
@ -8
@@tekkn_579 Should be -9 no tracking on the second hit and a little less push back
@@lunky9807sounds reasonable to me
It will once they nerf Devil Jin, again.
Is stance, 3, 1+2 better than stance, 3, 2?
3, 1+2 is for building meter, 3, 2 for damage / wall carry / wall splat/break
How did that hwo player get to Tekken king? 😅😂
@@Zxmbieweeknd Hwo is 90% + frames. You know how far you can make it on just frame trapping people constantly?
@ yes I am a Hwo main as well lol
11:11 Yes, this is 90% of Hworang mains in this game. Just 1000 buttons and half a brain cell.
bokeh
So thats how these "pRo" players do it. They get the newest dlc character that most people dont know how to deal with and cheese wins untill the god rank got it.
@@SuntanXxSuperman I’m gonna get the rank anyway, why should I wait? 🤷🏾♂️
they "cheese wins" by outplaying people's spacing and timing, and by having extremely good defensive knowledge (they're ducking highs, they're punishing pmuch everything correctly, etc.)... as they can do with any character. yeh there's a bit of knowledge-checking but when you're at these ranks there's no excuse for not learning the match-up asap. i mean if it's so easy to "cheese wins" why don't you do it too
This guy comes across as a real snob and elitist. Maybe its just how he speaks I dunno.
3:45 "I dont know why this guy's rematching though"
Because it's cool of him to play out the set you snob. Be a bit more humble.
Did you even watch the set lol? The dude was ki-charging, t bagging and being disrespectful and then HE left after getting one win in the set and didn’t play it out lmaoo
People like drag is TOXIC tbagging ki charging and only rematch cause drag lose if drag won first match he don't rematch all toxic do the same thing
You only listened to the video without watching it or something? 💀