BOSTON to CHICAGO with Amtrak Lake Shore Limited
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Howdy howdy,
Boy, it's been a while since I haven't released a video on long-distance Amtrak. It's time to finally take a look at the mighty Lake Shore Limited between Boston and Chicago... As always, an Amtrak journey is full of surprises
Enjoy, and don't forget to like/leave a comment to help the channel :-)
TRIP INFORMATION -
Date: OCTOBER 2023
Railway company: Amtrak
Route : Boston South Station to Chicago Union Station
Time : 22h22
Price : $185 (purchased two weeks ahead of departure)
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00:00: Intro
00:49 : Boston South Station
02:13 : The Lake Shore Limited
02:55 : On the platform and composition
03:35 : Our engine
03:58 : Boarding
04:26 : Seat Check
04:58 : Departure / time of travel
05:25 : On Time performance
05:52 : Straight outta Boston
06:20 : Worcester, MA
07:03 : A chill afternoon
08:07 : Springfield, MA
09:06 : Relax
09:50 : Eastbound 448
10:06 : Apéro
10:30 : Shunting in Albany, NY
15:25 : Dinner
15:50 : Night time in coach
16:25 : Good morning
16:37 : Sunrise by John B
17:20 : Mid roll ads
17:42 : Crowd in South Bend, IN
18:15 : Waltkthrough
19:15 : Toilets Time
19:43 : Junction with Amtrak Michigan services
20:26 : Beautiful Gary, IN
20:40 : Price
21:00 : Earlier arrival in Chicago
21:17 : Amtrak Yard
21:46 : Thoughts about the Lake Shore Limited
22:25 : Outro
Hey folks, this will be the 'last' video of my voice-over experiment. Over the last four videos, I addressed the issues you guys pointed out in your feedback and applied them to this video. So if you liked this video, let me know in the comments below. If you did not like it and prefer the original subtitle format, let me know too.
I will post a poll on social media and on UA-cam next week to determine whether we should continue with voice-over videos or go back to the subtitle format.
All the best, and enjoy the Lake Shore Limited.
Thibault
Honestly comeback to the original type of video. It's your "trademark" and is much more calm and relaxing
I have really nothing against your voice-over, but I really prefer the original subtitle format. It is really relaxing hearing the train sound and ambient, at least for me.
back to subtitled please!
I like a MIX of your voice and the titles ... you speak very well
America is beautiful place .... thank you for showing us America
Merci, Thibault, pour avoir partargé ton vidéo avec nous.
C'est toujours un plaisir de voyager avec toi, en particulier tes voyages en Europe, où on peut visiter plusieurs des lieux très intéréssants!
Comme chef de train en retrait (d'Amtrak), il me plaît énormement que tu acceptes, pour la plupart, nos fautes. C'est très agréeable que tu comprends avec clairité la situation qui se trouve notre entreprise sans beaucoup de criticisme.
Merci!
Thanks!
I liked it very much, I don't understand English and in this format I can translate the subtitles into my language, keep it up please
Best decision you guys made were to clean the windows yourself! :D Bravo!
I definitely like this voice-over format better than the silent videos!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: you refer to Gary as the "fantasic city", we refer to it as the "armpit of the US".
And Anderson, IN is much worse looking 😂
Isn’t that New Jersey?
@@aycc-nbh7289 New Jersey is in much better condition than Gary! Lol
I was on the lake shore limited on 12/16/23, NYC to Syracuse. This is thanks to your inspiration.
I used to be a regular commuter on this train - if you book a little further in advance, you can get a coach seat between Boston and Chicago for less than $100!
Also, if you just can't sleep sitting up, you can lie down behind the last row of seats in the coach...or ride from Boston to Albany in coach and change to the sleepers in Albany (the price difference between a ALB-CHI sleeper and a BOS-CHI sleeper can sometimes be a couple hundred dollars!)
ALSO...Thibuault really undersells the scenery on this route. Between Worcester and Albany you're winding through beautiful New England woods along the banks of happy little streams and next to picturesque little lakes while the Berkshire mountains rise on either side of you...maybe it's because I'm a native New Englander but I've got a soft spot for that kind of thing :). Also, you go right through the middle of US Steel's Gary Steelworks. Only a small bit of the original plant is still in use, and the rest has been left to rot. Mile after mile of collapsing factory buildings, rusting lift bridges, empty ship berths, and grimy shunting locomotives. It is the least natural landscape I have ever seen, and I'll never forget it.
I took the Lakeshore Limited back in September in coach. It was a great trip and only delayed once. I would do this again in a heartbeat!
Good for your friend for cleaning the window! The last time I cleaned my own window, in Philadelphia on a high-level platform so there was no danger, I was yelled at by an Amtrak employee. Dirty windows are a big minus for train travel.
Just took the Lakeshore from Worcester, MA to Sandusky, OH to visit family. This is the 5th time I have made that trip. Much cheaper and better than flying or driving. Just sit back and relax, sleep and when you wake up you are there. Thanks for the video
Took this some years ago when a roomette was much cheaper and there was traditional dining. My favorite Amtrak trip for scenery is the California Zephyr, simply superb.
So beautiful scenery
I rode the LSL on Nov 4, and that BOS sleeper still had the flat wheel. what a racket. Another feature of being in that car, is that you have to walk the whole train to get to the diner.
It's fun to see you departing from my local train station in Boston. I've done the LSL as far as Toledo and back. That was a special trip because we were taken off the train and bussed to Albany, through the snow in the "wilds" of western Massachusetts under the light of the full moon! It's a pretty ride out of Boston, I think. Better than wild to describe western Mass. would be "rural"--there are quite a few areas without cell phone service, which always surprises me!
We have the same GE diesel locomotives here in Romania. 2 stroke diesel :D. New England scenery is beautiful btw.
I thought these are 4 stroke and the 2 strokes were EMD?
@@Danse_Macabre_125 I might be wrong. They could de EMD's. We call them here GM's
@stefanv9660 GM (General Motors, yes the same GM that owns Chevrolet and stuff) owned EMD.
GE (General Electric) is a different thing, I know it's a bit confusing lmao
@@Danse_Macabre_125 got it🙂
This was a super informative video. Thank you for helping my anxiety before my train ride
Good to see you back on Amtrak!
I like both of your formats. Will keep watching no matter which one you choose.
I have taken the Lake Shore Limited many times from NYC to Rochester to see my family. A great train ride
I love the voiceover! Much better! Thank you, great video!❤🎉
I like the voiceover and I love the strong French accent😁
Great trip. Looks like you enjoying Amtrak Coach Class, since the seating and legroom is better than common seating class attached at sleeper train.
Passengers cleaning train windows is a whole new level of self-service :D
À Thibault, merci mille fois des vidéos. Et j'en profite pour vous souhaiter une très bonne année 2024. Lulú du Furet et famille
man I love long distance in coach. It's just so chill, even without your own cabin. I rode the Cardinal in coach and absolutely loved it, even managed to get some ok sleep. I read like, an entire book
Amtrak really needs to have North Station and South Station link up, (would likely cost ~$10bn to do so). It would help Amtrak and the MBTA Commuter Rail service so much. The "Northeast Regional" could then go all the way up to Portland, Maine; which would be a boon for that state.
I live along the Downeaster and couldn’t agree more!
Me too.@@currycarr6495
Add another zero to that price tag
@@mikegaskin5542that extra 0 would cover MassDOT’s 1,000 inevitable screwups building the North-South Link haha
Excellent review Sir !!!:):):)
I agree that the subtitles since it’s calming to listen to the railway. Also, have you considered taking the Amtrak into Michigan? I think that’s the route you can enjoy traveling by train, especially during the summer.
watching these trips reviews always gets me excited for my trip to chicago. I typically take the Capitol Limited route (now Floridian for now), its probably my favorite cuz i love exploring the midwest
My brother has traveled on this train from/to New York several times. He always chose a roomette. Loved every trip! And the greqt scenery .
I like your narrative better.
Thanks Thibault for a nice review💕👌
gr8 video
Super vidéo 🎉
I like the voice over commentary very much, Thibault, and think you should keep it going. It gives viewers a much better feeling of being there with you on your journeys.
I love the narration and use çlosed captioning, so i get the best of both.
I did this round trip as part of a BOX-CHI-LAX-[bus]-BFD-OKJ[5 days in San Francisco]EMY-CHI-BOS in 2003. I've also taken it between Boston and Springfield or Pittsfield on a couple of occasions. Massachusetts, in conjunction with Amtrak, will be expanding service from Boston to Springfield and Albany in coming years, so it'll be more than just one train daily. My favorite trains I've ridden so far: the California Zephyr in the west, and the Adirondack in the east. The scenery on the Adirondack is particularly beautiful along the Hudson River and Lake Champlain.
1st, I prefer this format. 2nd, Thank you for visiting Boston again. I hope the next time you are back, the new Acela cars will be in service. Can you bring us this luck? :P
Amtrak Downeaster is an awesome experience. Also the Short train ride from Boston to Providence I do every year when they have NCAA Regional basketball or Hockey games....in Providence on ACELA Express. Its super quick to Providence!
Very nice to see this journey - thank you, Thibault! And, I like your voice-over.
Thanks for the nice video! I really should do an Amtrak trip again.
Btw, last time my California Zephyr actually arrived an entire hour early into Emeryville. :D
Great videos, I like to hear you talk but either way is fine. Specially liked this video but it an Amtrak train that I have been on. Keep up your great videos.
Amtrak once (circa 1983) had a three-way split at Ogden, Utah on the west-bound Zephyr (routed via southern Wyoming): one section on the Pioneer to Boise & Portland, Oregon. Another section on the Desert Wind to Las Vegas & Los Angeles. A third section continuing on the Zephyr to Emeryville, California.
It lasted into the 90s. I was on one Zephyr that was 19 cars long.
I rode the California Zephyr in the mid 90s, they were doing the Pioneer split in Denver on the days the Desert Wind didn't run. The Desert Wind split in Salt Lake City at the old Rio Grande Station. It was on the rear of the Zephyr it had the Diner Car, 3 coaches, a sleeping car. Most everyone on that end was going to Las Vegas. That was one of the stupidest cuts Amtrak made.
You woke up in Toledo, Ohio! I used to live there. That city gets served by 2 Lake shore limited trains, and 2 capitol limited trains. Fun fact about Toledo is, it used to be capable of 16 or 17 trains at one point. Nowadays, the station only has 2 fully usable tracks (tracks that go in on one end and go out on the other). Mainly because more often than not, the Lake shore limited and capitol limited show up at very close to the same exact time in the morning going to Chicago. I actually was on the Lake shore limited going to Chicago one day when the capitol limited was very slowly going out of the station and the lake shore was actually pulling into the station not 100 feet behind the capitol on the same track! Both in motion, very cool and rare to catch on video!
Very interesting, enjoyed the video, I love to ride the trains myself, thanks for sharing
Nice trip👍
I like both formats....I dont always understand your accent but that's on me, not you. I do find that the more I listen, the better I get at it so your narration has been a good learning experience for me.
I did the Crescent from New Orleans to Alexandria VA in a roomette. I really like the Acela up to NYC. If you book well in advance it’s only $71 each way. I want to do this route and will probably get a bedroom with the added benefit of access to the lounge at Moynihan hall.
Bring back the subtitle man. Its more relaxing.😊
I love long trains having at least 18-20 wagons.
Back when I rode coach a lot I would always know the high level stop where the window could be cleaned.
When I moved to rear of train photography which is a bit thicker.
Rode the Lake Shore Limited years ago as an actual Amtrak trip, but was put on the City of New Orleans from Memphis to Jackson as a pilot for the Amtrak conductor. Have also taken a few Northeast Regionals from Boston to DC and back.
been on the 97 Silver Meteor from Boston to Kissimee we were going to orlando for Disney World! Its a great trip but best to get a roommette over coach.
I like the voice over 😊
Très bonne vidéo! I am shocked that Amtrak has yet to bring back traditional dining. Never had the chance to take long-distance on Amtrak, only the Adirondack, North East Regional and Acela. Also did the Canadian portion of the Maple Leaf. Don’t know if I’ll ever have the chance to take the Lake Shore Limited so watching your video is a nice alternative. I hope that the plan to get the Wolverine extended to Windsor in Canada will happen as that would be an easy way for me to get to Chicago.
I wish the Vermonter went back to Montréal. There is so much potential wasted in that stretch because Canada is even worse at building large infrastructure than the US. It's taken Canada over 40 years to finish joining A35 starting near Montréal, with I-89 in Vermont. Same goes for train service. Amtrak stops ~20km from the Quebec border in St Albans, Vermont and Via Rail doesn't want to setup a Customs station at the Montréal terminal.
Amtrak has traditional dining on routes west of Chicago and west of San Antonio which are free meals for sleeper passengers and some of those routes (most likely not during summer) coach passengers can buy the traditional dinning but pricy those cost $25 for breakfast, $35 for lunch, and $45 for dinner and those meals are cooked on the train.
Boa tarde simplys trem pra Boston Boa viagem
Merci
The City of New Orleans is (barely) east of the Mississippi and uses superliners 😉😉. Awesome video!
Yeah, because the viewliners are only needed for the trains that go through NYC due to the double-deckers not fitting into their tunnels
Great video, Thibault. I'm loving the voice-over experiment. I'm not a fan of subtitles, which unfortunately, seem to be the trend these days. I didn't know that some people are having issues with the new format. Keep up the great work that you do.
Hello Thibault, Gary, Indiana is where Michael Jackson (the whole Jackson family) grew up. One of the Jackson 5's early hits was "Goin' Back to Indiana".
I've done the Cardinal, Silver Star, Silver Meteor (twice), and Night Owl overnight in Coach. honestly I slept about as well as I did on my Auto Train sleeper and I had a great time almost every single time, with the only exception being a break down on the Silver Meteor causing a 5-hour delay. plan on taking the LSL to Cleveland next month, hopefully the train is delayed because 3:53am arrival is a little too early and so is a 5:50am departure given that I won't be staying near the station. next time, I'll definitely head out to the platform to clean my window!
If you're traveling in coach (or the Amtrak breakfast offering isn't to your liking) into Chicago for a morning arrival, consider skipping the Amgrub and walk a couple of blocks from the station to longtime Chicago landmark Lou Mitchell's Restaurant, open for breakfast and lunch. It's where the Amtrak crews go.
You first steel mill is actually not Gary, but the Cleveland Cliffs (formerly Bethlehem Steel) milss at Burns harbor. Gary has USX... And there's East Chicago ...
Whilst travelling in coach, did u feel safe when going to cafe and leaving your stuff at seat and then at night, did most people respect keeping quiet at night?
Greetings from italy ❤
I like the voiceover better than subtitles as I find those distracting- I’m trying to read them while watching the scenery.
Please make one video on the mexico's new train service "tren maya" 🙏
Cool booking tip: if you're traveling between Chicago and Albany book a seat on the Boston section (449/448) and save even more money.
I agree, I prefer sound of trains over naration.
$185 is a lot of money to be stuck in the seat for 22 hours. I love trains but I would rather fly.
I always bring my own liquor & food on these rides. Though I do enjoy the food in the dining cars.
Wasn't expecting this video to be entirely narrated over the subtitles, which was a nice change but I kinda prefer the subtitles more as your French accent can often be hard to understand. In all honesty, I'd rather watch one of your vids with the subtitles instead. I don't mind if it happens once in a while as it's a good reminder to us viewers your from France.
I travel from Cleveland to Hyde Park, NY (Poughkeepsie) regularly and hate the incredibly boring drive. The train is only a few hours longer to take and no stress, and only 90 minutes from Poughkeepsie into Moynihan in NYC. I've not had any issues with punctuality with the Lake Shore Limited but understand I'm in the minority. Plus, when you buy months in advance it really is cheaper than the gas to drive it.
After seeing what happened with Ku and So with their journey on the Lake Shore, it only makes sense to board from Boston instead and stick to coach! 😂😂😂
The Boston to Albany section can have anywhere from 1 to 3 engines but it always has 4 cars. Therefore, they don't always add an engine (or 2) in Albany.
Honestly i don't mind the voiceover. I think it helps add a personal touch. Plus there are subtitles if people have trouble understanding you.
The new format is good but we need more train sounds like it was in the subtital videos. Maybe you can combine 2 formats
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Nice memories, thanks! Coming from Germany as a tourist, I had a great experience.
At 8:19 of this video, there’s P42 No. 123 that is attached at the end of a consist in a pusher configuration. Which train was that?
I grew up 3 miles from south station. Sullivan Sq on the Orange line
Please go back to your subtitled videos, I found them greatly relaxing and entertaining. Meanwhile, the new format I have real trouble understanding and the ambient sound is lost, which was a huge part for me at least. I do love your content but can't really enjoy that much anymore.
Well said!
I really enjoy the calm ambient sounds of the subtitled videos too. It's nice to calm down to after a stressful day at work.
I know UA-cam wants to encourage a "typical UA-camr" format, but I really enjoy how calm your videos are and wouldn't want them to turn into the typical format!
I disagree. Love your new format. But whatever you do, I'll be back!
@@DaneNicholson How long have you been following Thibault? The reason I ask is because he tried voiceovers a few years ago and he met with the same reactions. He then went over to sub-titles. I don't know why he reverted to voiceovers again.
@@Eurobazzthink it has to do with the ranking or search result in UA-cam, algorithms?
Can you do a full trip on the Downeaster with a overnight stop at Old orchard beach (OOB) Maine..? and get on the next day and go to the end at Brunswick? and back to Boston the downeaster is an awesome way to get up to maine and a great experience just wish they had service a bit further north up the coast so you could get to Acadia Park /Bar harbor via rail.
Cool video! Curious about your camera setup, you shooting 4k and no rolling shutter?
I’ve never been able to understand why the Massachusetts section of the train was so short compared to the New York City section
WoW! What an adventure! You were really roughing it with coach and cafe crap but glad you got a good night's sleep.
What is the app that you are using to look at all the train lines?
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Subtitles please! Thanks!
Nice video!😊Second 😊
Even true it's not a major point on this video, the Penn Central sold the Penn station air right in NY because they wanted to get rip of the station and it's mainly the Madison Square Garden complex that had been build in place, but there is also an office building that had been build on the airspace. At least the lost of the penn station had lead to the creation of the landmark preservation and that probably what save Grand Central to be demolish as well (even if the Pam Am building had been build next to the station).
Otherwise, I had use Amtrak night train twice on the former Montrealer train that used to connect Montreal to Washington via the Connecticut river. That train had been replace by the Vermonter ... i don't remember when, but that's a long time ago ...
Otherwise, I travel once on the Adirondack and in a few occasion on the Northeast direct (or his predecessor) beetween New York and Washington. Never try however the Acela or the previous higher speed service on the northeast corridor, the Metroliner.
During cuts in the 1990s, Amtrak was forced to get subsidies from states to get many trains to continue to run (the fedral budget had likits on what traisn could be federally funded or somthing to that effect) . Vermont was not willing to pay for the Montrealer section in canada so it was cut and the train renamed Vermonter, There were talks of re-extending the train to Montréal, but with the loss of Centrral station this is likely not going to happen. New York State funds the Adirondack to Montreal because they see tourism potential. (and NY Tourism offers discount codes on the Adirondak train).
Another issue: the Montréaler was overnight train with heritage fleet which was past its retirement age. and right now, Amtrak is short of Viewliner sleeping cars and diners (but they are soon to go to tender for new long distance equipment and maybe that will free up equipment to restart the Montréaler , assumung CDPQ is willing to allow it into its Central Station at convenent times (it has delayed the return of Adirondak, refused to honour contract Amtrak had with previous onwer (CN) and want to hiek fees. It gave Amtrak truly undesirable deatrture time of 11:10 which means a lot of the trip is done in darkness versus northnound which leaves New York betwene 08:00 and -09:00
That's right Jean-François. Thank you also for pointing me the issue with CDPQ, I wasn't aware of that one.
If I remember well there is also an issue with the cost the Canadian border service agency require to clear the train and of course the bad condition and speed limitation of the cn rouses point subdivision (and I doubt that the swanton subdivision that has to be use to connect the Vermont border with Cantic is in better condition) that most of the subdivision had a 30 mph speed restriction (in summer, CN even wanted to enforce a temporary restriction of 10 or 15 mph so Amtrak limit the Adirondack to Saratoga Spring only during that period because the time require to cover the 42 miles of the subdivision would have been way to long.
I remember that at the begining of the Vermonter, Amtrak offer a bus connexion to / from Montreal but that didn't last long, I guest the ridership was very low on that service.
With CN having lost the revenue from Adirondak using central station, it only has revenue from it using its tracks from Victoria bridge to the border, and that is only 2 traims per day. CN expects Amtrak to pay if it wants these freight tracks upgraded to run at passenger speeds like they used to. For the Adirondak, the stretch between the junction with Swanton and the border is used exclusively by Adirondak since CN doesn't have track rights south anymore (when it was owned by Delaware and Hudson, there could be some interlining, but even sice it became owned by CP (now CPKC) CN won't send any trains down that way. Neither the US nor state government will subsidize CN to upgrade tracks in Canada. So not sure why CN plays hard ball and expects subsidies.
US border request 60 minutes to clear train, Canadian border wants 90 minutes. That is baked into schedule but they often clear it in much less time. @@rolandsanfacon4398
On the CDPQ issue: never discussed in Canada. Found out in an very interesting document submitted by Amtrak to Congress.
"Report on Amtrak Cross Border Operations" Nov 2022. (very interestng doc that covers all 3 trains). It is on some congressman's web site. (Google suspends me if I post actual URLs sorry). @@rolandsanfacon4398
15:51 that is one of my stations
Sorry. The cell hangs on its own. It has a mind of its own.
Please do voice-over, I like to hear you talk. Thank you for this video. Have thought about taking this route. Now I will stop thinking and start doing
I can barely sit for five hours to Chicago, let alone 22. Anything over five hours and I need a room.
Amtk engine 156 is out of service - it hit a tree on the tracks in Arkansas. Amtk161 now sports its livery.
Subtitles vs. Audio. I say do both, a couple of subtitle videos and then an audio one.
Please make a video about tren maya and tren interoceánico in Mexico.
Could you please do the vre review
still like to hear your voice appear in video, maybe you can keep voice and subtitle both?
Bro brave on coach 22 hours
I miss your comments on your videos.