TV writer says networks 'lost leverage' after turning writing into 'part time professions'
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- TV writer and showrunner Michael Jamin joins CNN to talk about where the Writers Guild of America strike is after almost four months. #CNN #News
Why not use AI to replace network executives as well? In fact, why not use AI to replace executives in general?
Hopefully
Might as well. They sound like androids anyway. Middle management too. I don’t know what half those people do other than forward emails and take up a seat at meetings.
@banpotandblm ,
Really?! AI and automation will replace your Walmart Greeter Hillbilly ass in nothing flat. Then you'll scream at the top of your lungs. AI is going to impact every sector of the economy, and the Ultra-Rich overlords will love it because it can reduce the need for humans to do the jobs. It isn't Skynet, but it can, and eventually will, replace of lot of people in jobs. Then you'll be the first to cry for more "Socialist" type of involvement from the government.
AI and Robots replace everything and to earn money people just receive a government allowance 😂
The day your employer can replace you with AI they will.
Hardly any of the industry is sustainable full time tho.
Shows in the 90s were good. I'm discovering shows which are examples that quality declined since the last strike (2008?) ....when reality-crap took over many time slots (& game shows)
How is it that the writers of hit shows don’t enjoy the same financial success, or a large enough percentage to make them happier than they are now? Is it not a partnership in conjunction with the talent there is success? I mean someone might really appreciate a particular talent who is popular, but is it not in large part due to talented writers that bring about the popularity? I believe it is because of talented writer’s that success is possible to all! They are the unsung heroes. How can it be okay with the industry as a whole to essentially make it impossible for writers to make the kind of living that doesn’t make searching for other work necessary? It’s an illusion that the success is due entirely to the talent or the company associated with creating the environment for success to materialize. Show more appreciation industry, and pay those who share in the final product, accordingly! They deserve a percentage of success as well! Pay them what they’re worth in all the areas that will culminate in success so we can enjoy our favourite shows again. Actors bring the words to life but the words come from writers! It’s a relationship that is symbiotic! It’s important! It’s necessary and long overdue! Enough already
I live in Norway but i canceled my Netflix, disney + and HBO because of this. Greedy Hollywood!
Who gives a shit
I live in Norway, I cancelled because these writers/activists can only produce woke cr*p these days.
@@theglanconer6463Your obvi not a norwegian. Then you would know what woke means. And not be brainwashed
@@TheRuben_musicWhat does woke mean?
There isn't enough time in the day to pay for any streaming services and cable.
Free Tv and my HDR is all I need.
u gotta be 50
@@StrobeHighlights07 🤫
I'm old enough to remember the great TV shows from the 1950s and 60s and what passes for writing today can't hold a candle to what we watched back then!
Not really.
That's just nostalgia, all eras have quality programming.
I would just say it’s as bad now as it was then 😂
I've been watching those old show lately and it's sad that the story line really hasn't changed in decades as art imitates life.
@@judekalyesubula8646 minus reality tv.
reality tv IS cr@p.
“It stinks of coco butter, and lemon juice cleanse”
What the hell does that mean?
They are using her as a scapegoat.....😮 They picked on her ....
Drew Barrymore should have only chosen to interview writers and actors to help pay for the strikes. She is rich and doesnt need to screw her own people. She is a writer and actor!
Drew and Bill are gonna prove that these shows do not need 10 writers
Only if the host can do more than read from giant cards.
noone needs those talentfree hacks
Spoke TOO soon, didn'tcha?
The writers are the ones who lost leverage the second people's stories didn't come back for the fall seasons.
This host doesn’t know how to ask clear concise and pertinent questions quickly to the point. She rambles a lot!
See....nobody cares Hollywood.
He's a home owner that works part time. He doesnt look like he is struggling. " used to I could work 10 months, and take off 2 and afford a nice life" tell me how much of the population gets to take months off. 😂
have you heard of the profession "teacher". A lot of the world have about 2 months if you account vacation days. keep strokin the suits.
@sieglines Imagine thinking those 10 months don't account for vacations as well. 😅. Yes, surprisingly, i have heard of the profession called a teacher. They don't make much money. As they don't work that often.
Yes, he definitely look like he doesn't have to do laundry in the laundry in the bathtub
What he didn't mention is he's working 10+ hours a day and 6-7 days per week. That much OT adds up quickly for time off.
@@sieglinesTeachers have some of the best benefits and retirements and have a lot of time off during the school year, some weeks at a time. They also get paid a lot more than they’re worth. I was a school nurse and it was ridiculous how the teachers never worked a minute over a 7 hour day.
Has anyone missed the writing content coming out of Hollywood? Have not heard one person complain. Well, the Hollywood writers but they lost all originality decades ago. So...
I don’t hear the people who watch these shows complaining. We support the writers and actors. We’re not impatient. Quality is more important than just having something. I miss Kimmel and his Writers.
Yeah, the people who watch these shows, who apparently are not enough in number to sustain, much less increase, wages. That's the whole deal here. The shows are so bad that almost nobody is watching them to begin with. Did you ever hear these writers and actors, who all have the SAME social message, repeatedly declare "This show isn't made for YOU"? People believed them, after decades of being hit over the head enough with shows about how they're bad and how Intersectional Neo-Marxism is great. They saw the results in reality, clearly garbage, and they just accepted that the media is no longer made for them. It's made for the purposes of a political agenda and people still dumb enough to fall for it. Whatever. They can have the tripe if they wish it, and nobody cares.
You miss Kimmel? 🤣🤣🤣
Who watches it???
JanieCarnie,
Oh…….so your the one.😒
@@jillfeatherman5523 yes… and colbert, meyers.
Any film worker knows, you need to have a plan B profession...bartending, welding, some trade other than your film related job. Because film work is, by nature, fickel.
But they are hypocrite democrats that are entitled to a certain lifestyle.
Exactly 💯
Yah, we must use the authorities to disband the WGA!
I hope the Hollywood strike last FOREVER
F Hollywierd
same! they cant destroy my favorite storys when they dont produce anything^^
What a sad time in history. AI is taking jobs away from the creatives. AI will take many jobs away across industries. Wow.
Whey would people prefer AI over human creatives? Don't the results TELL you anything, like that these particular "creatives" suck? If I wanted to be hit over the head with dumbass leftist, socialist, garbage messaging in my news and entertainment every day, all of which is on repeat, why not just hire an AI that at least makes pretty pictures instead of the shit that qualifies as "art"? The AI is BETTER than these wretched, conformist, Communist, "creatives", and it doesn't even have a soul. Tough to be, but since Communists believe int he utter destruction of the soul as we know it, yeah, the AI is better.
You mean like when ATMs replaced bank tellers?
@@GotoHere Or fast food restaurants?
WE MUST BAN AI FROM OUR COUNTRIES AND THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!
The View, writing own material😂
Its worse than usual😂😂😂😂
technology is going to keep forcing people in show biz to adapt quickly and find new ways to be compensated
I have never understood, and still don't, why the story writer and screen writer are not the most important elements of a movie.. There are thousands of actors capable of most parts, though some few bring a story to life under competent direction. It seems to me that ALL the people working to create a movie are quoth that praise their movie inspires. But, without someone having written the words - what do the rest do?
No they lost leverage when they turned woke
Give people what their due CEO are making more than their fair share
4th month, yet no one has noticed
Most of your job is obsolete because of technology. Boo-hoo. That’s been happening to blue-collar workers for centuries. Have a good cry, then improve yourself.
Haven’t missed them one bit.
The ultra rich are so disappointing. All you had to do was pay them and you could get back to making godly sums of money. But nope come from 95% of the profit to 90% of it was too much. It's truly insane.
The actors and actress I'm even more disappointed in. They could have put pressure on the industry a long time ago. But they were content to exploit the writers until the execs found a way to exploit them. Funny how that works.
What profits? you know that not one of the streaming services is making any money? So maybe the writers should pay the companys cause they only produced shit
You get what you pay for. Film and TV drama is down the pan in the last 20 years - not only in the US but due to US cultural hegemony, world wide. Its a desert.
The only reason full-time writing turned into part-time writing is that executives put more money into their pockets.
Nnon of the host of the view need money.
We sent $23 billion to Ukraine…
We sent $6 billion to Iran…
It’ll take approximately $5 billion to rebuild to homes in Maui and give it back to the people but, they get $700 each and homelessness…
Where is the outcry for our fellow Americans? Where’s the outrage and questions from the media? Why are we allowing our government to do this?
My outcry is that your source of information sucks.
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Media gets told what they can report.
@@KathyJensen-vh2yk that they do.
@@SusanKay- you’re in a cult
_Video killed the radio star_
_Digital killed the video star_
Just don’t hire these writers! Hire non-union, independent teams. I’m sure the quality will greatly increase.
if everybody was on universal basic income, i think most would celebrate ai relieving us from jobs, instead of fearing it. ubi would change the motivation to work; more people would find the work they love, and robots would do the jobs nobody likes. especially if it was combined with free education being extended through college years. the economy would probably benefit, and i believe society in general would benefit, from people who were more engaged in a positive way with professions they enjoy, instead of working out of desperation and trauma
Welfare for all? ....🤔
It's not welfare. UBI is more complex than that.
In brief (and probably missing loads out...)
Everyone would be entitled to a sum of money. (Higher than any welfare at current rates). Enough to pay for all essential living requirements. There would be enough for a few 'luxury type' things too.
If people still want to work. Depending on how much they earn, the UBI payment would reduce ... not like current index linked arrangements. A worker would be better off doing so.
The benefit system (welfare system would be scrapped - saving millions of *insert currency of your country*
The money would be raised through corporation taxes and other industry taxes.
If businesses want to be totally automated, that's fine, but, they pay into the UBI system for the privilege.
Ultimately the goal is to have a population that have choices, time (for education, hobbies, work, fun.. yadda yadda yadda...). Stress related illnesses should drop.
I know I've missed loads out...
Yes it's an ideal dream..... could it work?... On paper yes. Can it work?... On paper yes...
Will people be happy?.. most will... greedy, self centred people won't..
It's not a bad idea.... this has been studied and pothesised for nearly a hundred years.
Google some of the studies.
@@farmaccount1653 you said the quiet part out loud entitlement ☝️😔.... No one in this world owes you anything... One person who could have $100 and another person who has $500 could spend it differently and still be more successful with that $100! For you to actually believe that and say that it is a privilege to work.... Just proves how lazy you really are!!! Because if money did not exist and you had to forage.... Who is giving you that UBI?.... If the dollar winter dropped to nothing right at this moment we would you get food? If the internet shut down, if power were to immediately stopping an incident where would you get your clothing? If your electric car stop working and there was no electricity how would you get to and fro? Only after the world stops moving the way it does as we know it when we realize that we cannot eat money!☝️😔
@@farmaccount1653So everyone has a level of income sufficient to meet all needs(housing/food/transportation) how does this account for different socioeconomic conditions such as a person in middle of no where Appalachia vs Downton NYC. Assuming they had the same income, the cost of living will inherently be more beneficial for the middle of nowhere person.
AI is going to replace all actors stay in the picket line forever for all I care
So are we supposed to be sorry that writing 8 episodes for a show isn't full time employment for you? Are you owed full time employment in an industry based around gig work? You aren't working for an energy company. This industry isn't a constant. If there isn't enough work for you after you've completed 1 show then that probably means there are too many writers competing for the amount of shows being made. It's supply and demand but the studios aren't required to create more shows just so you can have a job. This guy also admits to not wanting to take paying work simply because it's not the best show for his career. New flash, everyone has to work on stuff they don't like. You can't go on strike because you don't like the work you're offered and then complain that you can't pay the bills because you didn't want to take the job. It's outrageous that nobody is talking about how their desire for more money and to be owed a living at the expense of everyone else's career who isn't striking for these reasons is justified. There are many more people making less than him who have the opportunity to work right now but their work has been taken away from them because people like this want more.
The shows that resume don't damage the cause nor the fight for the sticking unions. They aren't employing writers nor actors. Television isn't going to sustain itself with daytime talkshows alone.
That's funny, day time Soap Opera s ran probably longer then you have Been alive. Low cost production costs with writers.
@@raywhitehead730 Daytime drama actors are covered under a different contract. So they are not on strike.
She dumb,says strike is almost 4 months,it's past 4
... Its ok for the veiw to be on tv thats fine ...
4 months, thats 4 months without any woke bullshit shows or stories. Watch movies from the 60s and 70s. Thats entertainment
LET'S GO MIKE!!
Slowly AI is going to invade everything eventually the presidency to LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aren't Drew and Bill subject to the actors guild strike conditions too?
No
@@ItsMeMario-nm7rk why?
@@thomasmoeller3446 Drew doesn’t violate SAG-AFTRA rules, and Maher could care less. What’s the guild going to do to him?
@@ItsMeMario-nm7rk Still. Why? Is Drew not a member of SAG-AFTRA? What about her guests? Actors can not show up to promote anything so what will they talk about? BTW: Most actors I know can't speak intelligently w/o a script. As for Bill, same question but he obviously doesn't need a script because he just babbles tripe.
even if they did? so? who the fuck cares! leave the stupid union and give a shit on theire rules! noone needs the wga! only talentless writers need union protection cause otherwise they would not get a job at all! real talent does not need unions@@thomasmoeller3446
Let`s hear it for, Yoga Balls !
Vaudeville beget Silent Film beget talkies beget bw film beget color beget cinema scope beget 3-D beget wide screen,beget multiplex beget,cable beget Streaming,
beget 'Black Mirror' in real life😮
The material of most shows these days is terrible, let’s be honest now.
I enjoy John Oliver
Lost Leverage? They got fired. They just don't know it yet. AI has been quickly advancing to take their place for way, way less.
AI is not a magic bullet and even if it is made into serviceable use, you still need literal mountains of fresh, non artificial, data and for best results data focused on a few specific subjects. They are going to need writers, and artists for that matter, regardless and possibly more so than before.
@@eddapultstab2078 have you even seen the trash they're writing these days? Fast X? They can't even write anything original anymore
@@benhoffman6606 if you watched the fast and the furious series, "for the writing" then good for you, ill look at you quizzically but good for you.
Does anybody watch CNN still?
I do have been to forty countries speak four languages and have a PhD. Beats the Jesus freaks at Fox news spewing lies and violence 🇺🇲
Most tv shows suck AI can do a better job and for a lot less money bye bye Hollywood
Actors and writers do not get paid that much after its all said and done, unless they work on a huge project (think the Marvel films, for example). I learned alot when I took my son the LA for auditions/casting calls from 2012-2014 (we lived in Phoenix at the time). My friend and her son had been out there living & working in LA for about 3 years by that point. Unless her son landed a role on a popular television series (think NCIS, Criminal Minds, Chicago Fire... which her son starred in), there was no money to be made. After all the SAG-AFRA fees, Coogan Account (which takes 15% of earnings) and taxes (city, state & federal) plus cost of rent for an apartment in LA and gas money for driving to all the auditions/workshops/etc... there was barely enough to put into personal savings. I met a couple of writers while out in LA and its a very similar story. Only the truly 'famous' or 'well-known' actors (& writers) are able to make a prosperous living. To reiterate, I never knew any of this until I took my son out to LA and talked with other people involved in the industry. It definitely is not a place to make any kind of money unless you make it 'big'.
As an aside, my son ended up getting part-time acting work in Phoenix (commercials, mostly; one movie where he played Nia Vardalos's son in 2 small scenes) and even then, it wasn't a lot of money as outsiders would think. But we saved his earnings and years later, he's able to pay for his college education through graduate school (if he so chooses).
As for my friend's son, he quit acting at 19 and pursued a different career, still living in LA though.
I read years ago, don't go into acting unless you can afford it -- there are lots of hidden costs in being a performer, be sure you have other marketable skills so you can survive, only about 5% or less of all actors make a living according to SAG
Ken Paxton acquitted.....😅
Of republican impeachment 😂
@@TaytesHuugeCaulk of warmongerings Uni Party impeachment. The uni party made up of neo-conliberals.
Somehow Palpatine has returned.
I hear a lot of Americas new migrants are great writers. And they don't just write in that White Supremacy language we call English. Migrant writers would bring a more diverse language palette to American movies and television. If only the bigoted writers union would let them participate instead of excluding using racist union rules. 😮
I'm not too fond of this 8 episode crap. Do they need help from the public? Most of us own movies we can watch and UA-cam videos until the strike is over. Is there a certain day or time we should turn off the TV? We can DVR everything until the strike is over.
Turning writing into preaching....
What does the yoga ball have to do with anything?
A Minnesota woman is suing the doctors who performed a double mastectomy on her when she was 16 years old as part of her treatment for gender dysphoria
@@vitalsigns2679the physicians and medical community for lying to the parents and child
14 pages.
Mind you 5% of these two guilds work regularly
So we can only blame 5% for the total amount of garbage written for the last 7 years? I say, fire that 5% and let's try the next 5% for a while and see how they do.
Outsource all the writers to India and Bulgaria. Way cheaper
I’m glad to see the people from that hellish cesspit writhe in agony over the worthlessness of their own existences. You Get What You Deserve
No one cares
im black and im voting for trump
They should really stop complaining. Our president keeps telling us how awesome our economy is doing and how many jobs he has “created”.
Drew Barrymore is saying her show doesnt need writers... which is extremely dangerous . We need writers! We need people using ai...not ai replacing people.
I’m sure you don’t need a writer when it comes to interviewing 😂
too much blah blah blah. Mediator thinks she is the know it all and the star. Who cares?
I don't know who would pay for this.
Put human versions side by side with AI versions of the same theme. But it needs to be set up scientists, in consult with entertainers, at large.
But it will be expensive to do but good research.
Who cares
Please. They haven’t produced anything good in about half a decade. If AI can do your job better you will be replaced.
Trump for 2024? 😅
Watch reruns of gun smoke or how about pull your head out of the screen and do something constructive and let them all go broke
Drew Barrymore 🎉❤😊.
Nobody cares.
Learn to code.
We need innovators to protect us from innovation!
There are way too many writers and actors for the number of jobs that need them. Until that is addressed, both those jobs will be part time.
Support INDEPENDENT writers and authors if you want quality content.
"Reflect upon the Past.
Embrace your Present.
Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis (DD3)
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"Before I start, I must see my end.
Destination known, my mind's journey now begins.
Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed.
In time, all points converge; hope's strength, re-steeled.
But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain,
We must see all in nothingness...
Before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
Ahhh...authors! Those real writers that created things called books. Those were the good old days. When you had to pick the damn thing up, open it, turn every single page by hand, risking paper cuts, using bookmarks to keep your place and had to remember where you had it last. I love books. I used to read to my kids, now we take turns reading to each other. Currently working through the classics. In the middle of "Little Women" at the moment (not one of my favorites) but I like the way my kids do the voices as they read. Time better spent than watching any movie.
@@nightfall902 I spent 30+ years of hard work involved in production--mostly live ones. This included acting, directing, writing, fight choreography & performance, sound design, props, video, voice-over, etc. 🙂 Now, I'm an award-winning author of an epic fantasy series (similar to "Lord of the Rings").
Society enjoys a lot of the value from drama and entertainment, but ironically enough, it rarely appreciates those who sink their hours into mastering it. Must give us pause.
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I’m not watching barrymore or maher
... The view is still on why ??? That's fair right ...
I don't watch the view wit a bunch of know nothing hags who think they know what's in my best interest
I don’t understand why a talk show would have writers, surely the host should be witty enough in the first place 😅
You probably never did 😂
@@ItsMeMario-nm7rk actually I did watch one of the 2. now, I won’t resume watching one, an the other, I never will.
This is unfair for trans kids
Thank you for noticing.
😂😂😂
There is still a war in Ukraine but lets cover this.
The war is the reason why they're broke! Smh, how about not send $$$ over there and fix American problems in ...oh IDK America?🤔
Don’t worry, Ukraine and Trump are still 99.2% of CNNs “news” coverage 😂
Hhhhhhhoooo, you guys will lose next election so badly..................
I feel sorry for the Jesus freaks
nnnnnnnnnno, you get it wrong, we are buying the winning side like last time,hhhhhhhhhhhaaaa@@pango-y8j
I agree with this gentleman once all the shows are created inside of computer, there will be no need for writers make up people in our camera, people, etc. so there will be a lot more people out of work. Just keep in mind that artificial intelligence will soon on everything.
Not health care though. Many jobs in healthcare are safe.
And sex workers.
NO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE! WE MUST GET RID OF THAT ROBOT MONSTER!!!
Trump 2024
corporate news network
Mark 1:15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
But they’ve been saying that for centuries now. “The end of the world is nigh”. Maybe it wouldn’t be the case if Christians actually done something to stop it. Actually loved thy neighbor, helped with environmental issues, stopped feeding the military and killing people in other countries. Maybe the world would be in a better place.
I knew they were scripting all this poilitical mess
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Why don't the writers just go learn to code?
AI is already replacing programmers. Through generative scripts
"This is everyone's fight against A.I." Really? If A.I. lets me create a sit-com at no cost, That is BETTER than a high barrier to entry.
Trump is going to prison LOL cope 😂
The strike is affecting everybody right down to the deli worker and the cleaner and exterminator who service the studio. This is rich people fighting with each other. They should get it fixed so the regular people can get back to work.
So they can get back to work for the entertainment industry that sucks and produces nothing but bad propaganda? That's not going to happen. Enough people are sick of Hollywood's preachy flicks, all with the same social messaging, that it's not entertainment any more. It's just paying to be lectured on how bad you are. The Woke will pay for that, most people will not, including other Union workers who hate the shit out of an elite union. Where do they even get off claiming to represent us?
We know for a fact they fuckin' don't, since many strikes in 2022 went unnoticed or were shuttered. "All for the good of the national economy", they said, as more and more of us had to sacrifice our wages and working hours on the altar of "Progressivism". But when it's THEIR industry, oh, now it's HUGE news on outlets nobody trusts. These people destroy work, they don't create it, and no, I'm not buying a ticket or paying a fee to watch propaganda. The government charges me enough for that, thank you.
I can’t feel sorry for people who write communist manefestos. 😂
Fake comment
the truth hurts baby^^@@pango-y8j
After writing all this woke content, you should just be happy to have your job.
Writer must be protected! I fully support them as they need ai protections. And drew Barrymore should be ashamed for how she has gone about this...not NEC the choice as it's a chat show. If she had any brains she would only interview the writers and actors to fund their strike!!!
Why do they need prodtection? Did coal mine workers get protection? Did all the other jobs that died to automisation deserved protectuion?
Its the way things go....you cant control tec-development!
I want to stop working from home. Can we disable this terrible social experiment finally? I am not more productive at home and anyone who tells you that is a liar or blind. It's been over 3 years and I'm sick of it.
Let them be retrained to be baristas like joe brandon did the Oil, Mineral and Coal workers!
No wall. Mexico paid for nothing. A million dead from Covid. $7 trillion more in debt in 4 short years. Trump's** presidency was a joke.
This is sad I enjoy the talent of a person who can write something. Yeah, we know computers can make something up and have some interests, but when you have the ability to use an imagination that not everyone is provided with Its a gift.
You can program that........
Maybe the writers can learn to code 😂
Will they make a film of ken Paxton being acquitted...😅 Or the desperate liberal trying to use the 14t14th amendment to get Trump off the ballot. But resorting to voodoo dolls as Las resort...resort...lol😅
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