Would’ve loved to see this type of support when the other unions tried to strike before the writers and actors. We work 10x as many hours, the work is 10x as hard on our bodies, we don’t get residuals like they do, and we don’t get any recognition.
The strike itself is more entertaining than the garbage these writers have been putting out. Please please I beg you keep the strike going for many years to come!
It's important to keep in mind that their actual say is very low and they have to abide by a lot of mandates. I think giving writers more control could very likely improve the quality of the material they put out. You are not really motivated to put your heart in something if you constantly get reprimanded by people who have no idea what they are talking about, you get shitty pay and you don't get any real credit for your work.
@@salamander4668 Ah yeah, the typical: Blame the workers and not the system they are a part of. Then provide the only solution possible: Oppress the poor and hope the problem will just vanish.
They chased off the talented writers and replaced them with more diverse ones, whos identity/appearance is more important than their abilities. Now the industry is crumbling and these studios/streaming services are just going to do anything to survive.
@@theoldgods8229Exactly. Now we'll never again get timeless masterpieces like; Superbabies, Catwoman, Gigli, Ghost Rider 1&2, Terminators 3-6, Jaws 2-4, Blade(s), Meet the Spartans, Battlefield Earth & 30 Fast & Furious movies 😢
@@billymadison8574 Gosh, you mean bad storytelling resulted in box office bombs and diminishing returns in the 1990s-2010s just like it has in the 2020s? Why on earth didn't anyone see this coming? 😆
Nothing like a Vice zoom call to make me absolutely sure that I don't support the current generation of writers and can't wait for this industry to collapse
Studios will not give in on AI cause they know it could cripple them later. If they give in then smaller start ups will eventually be pumping out tons of AI content at a fraction of the cost and crush the former giants.
If the tech exists it will be used. Remember black and white TV, 8 track tapes and cassettes, VHS machines? All gone and no one misses them. In every instance the new tech was better than what it replaced. Windows 1.0 was revolutionary. Does anyone still use it? Times changes...the world isn't flat anyone. Ever since the industrial revolution...1760 or there about.. people have been replaced and relocated into new fields. It's going to happen.... perhaps sooner is better than later, Time will tell.
@@nightfall902I really don't like the fact that ai can replicate talent. If IA and machines can do that, then what can humans do that AI and machines can do better.
@@wolfgamer8770 The exact opposite of the same coin. Every advance that made life easier, made humans weaker. We now require air conditioning in our cars, homes, workplaces. Escalators, elevators and moving walkways. Cellphones so we have less things to remember. Automation of every kind to do the things humans can't do or do not want to do. The current idea of being outside is the distance travelled from a vehicle to being inside a structure. It's what we have always done. Each step making humans less and less important.
@@nightfall902 Yes but, the fear is how long does it take until automation replaces the work force entirely. How long is it until the only member of a company is the owner. (Entrepreneur or board of directors/share holder.)
@@wolfgamer8770 With all the global issues I don't think there is any real reason to worry about that. Fortunately, and In all probability we will have destroyed the majority of, if not the entire world population long before being replaced by tech.
@@QuillWorks I welcome it. Please support their strike by letting them continue striking. I've always watched international movies as well. (And FYI I'm from the Netherlands, not US) And there's so much content out there already (most of it a bit older because all the recent woke stuff is radioactive gar bage) from within the US and outside it's literally enough to last you a lifetime anyway. You thought you had a point? Haha. They are replaceable, and considering most of them are woke gar bage I'd absolutely love it if AI or literal air replaced them.
0:13: 📺 Michael Jam, a TV writer since 1996, discusses the challenges of maintaining a career in the industry. 2:39: 📝 The video discusses the need for authorization votes and better negotiation tactics in guild leadership. 5:06: 📺 The video discusses the reasons why actors might want to leave a hit TV show and the impact of streaming on residuals. 7:33: 💰 Actors and writers are keeping more of the money they help generate by negotiating for residuals. 10:09: 💰 There are risks involved in being a writer, including the potential loss of time and effort if a project doesn't succeed financially. 12:59: 🎥 The video discusses the disparity in wealth distribution between writers/performers and venture capitalists in the entertainment industry, and the impact of AI on their work. 15:55: 🎥 The advancement of AI technology in creating realistic actors could potentially lead to the collapse of the Hollywood industry and all the jobs and industries that support it. Recap by Tammy AI
Then why are you here? I bet you NEVER watch TV, you seem so intelligent. Nothing is more American than supporting UNION WORKERS. It’s not US vs US it’s US vs them, the 1%
@minoltaaraya I don't see these guys pushing any initiatives to help the people who pick up their trash, fix their broken a/c systems or make their coffee.
@@glasscrafter669Idk, I've never met an ac repair guy, mechanic, or appliance repairman who wasn't already trying to price gouge me. If we can boycott repairmen who charge $750 to replace a $16 A/C capacitor, count me in.
@@glasscrafter669 each one of those has their own separate union that they can go to if they feel they are being treated unfairly. So what's your point?
Refrigerators put the ice man out of business. Computers put the typewriter repairman out of business. It looks like AI is putting the writer out of business. That's called progress.
15:33 regarding AI is the core conversation here. Michael's point of view that AI is bad because it will screw everyone in Hollywood is not wrong, but it is also not a good argument against using AI. If Hollywood doesn't adopt that technology then some kid in their parents basement will & he'll be able to output competitive content at a way lower price point. I feel bad for these writers as their world is turned upside down, but this technology (like all technologies that came before it) is inevitable & it is wiser to figure out a way to leverage it then to fight it, otherwise it's time to start looking for a new career path.
Does anyone miss black and white television or 8 track tapes? How many people are using Window 1.0? In every instance the new has been an improvement over whatever it replaced. It started with the industrial revolution back in around 1760, Things will change. How many people, before these writers, have lost their jobs to technology? When it recently came to the gas and oil workers...these writers took to their social media and suggested that they ''learn to code''. It's time for them to take their own advise and move on.
@@nightfall902Well learning to code woukldnt be a good idea either as AI can already write code and it won't be long till it is not only great at it but can surpass any human coder
@@ItWasntAPhase Agreed, and has already been done faster and better. I used to do entire websites in html by hand in notepad. Now it's all point and click and a 7 year old can do it in minutes. I meant more like, just find a different job.
@@ItWasntAPhase AI is useful for tasks like editing, linting & replicating existing code, but they don't invent, program or compile code into usable software. AI also requires programmers/coders to consistently upgrade, maintain & modify their platforms & training. We'll need coders for a while, cuz it'll take a very long time for AI to become self-reliant and/or develop independent creativity.
I have a masters dgeree in AI. AI will not replace writers, poets, musicians or actors in the next 100 years. But it will change the way some of them work.
So glad I double majored in journalism and communications…i sensed that it would get harder for writers in the future. Now I just use my degree as basically experience as an entrepreneur starting my own businesses
@@user-tm8jt2py3d no just honesty..I started college in 2011 and changed my degree basically jr year from health and human sciences bc I was going for the money and not what I’d enjoy doing with my life and had to stay an extra year.
@@getfreemazes I’ve written for the Memphis grizzles , some local papers etc. it’s just not worth the fight and time it takes to get in the door writing for somebody anymore bc you’re always at risk of getting laid off or replaced sadly. Or getting taken advantage of like this situation
@@hagen552 You've missed the point, non-genius. The public doesn't care. too many other entertainment options out there. It's supply and demand and always will be.
@@TheCarterKent Why would the public care if things are still being released? Nothing has really changed for people outside the industry because we still haven’t caught up on what was in production before the strike started. Dune pt II was delayed to counteract the dry spell inevitably catching up with all the backlogged content.
@@TheCarterKent As you dance around the actual point as to why the public doesn’t know the strike is happening. You even just admitted to have the option to watch things you like better than what’s been coming out, so why do you care?
If you forget the rhetoric and look at the facts it becomes clear. The studios did not want to talk to the union prior to the strike. So why not? Simple answer, they knew the strike was going to happen and it was okay with them. The studios waited weeks before making a decent offer of about 85% of what was asked for , while ignoring key sticking points. Why was that? They wanted the offer to be rejected so the strike would continue. Then they leaked the offer to show how fair it was. If it's true that it would only cost 1% of profits to meet union demands, why would the studios not agree to pay such a small and insignificant amount? Because it's not about the contract or the money. WGA SAG AFTRA are not the only unions the studios have to deal with. There are others that they will need to deal with in the future. The studios were prepared for this, not only did they have more than enough legacy content stored and global content available, but stopping productions and wages was a huge bonus in savings. Something that the shareholders love to hear. The unions had no idea what they were up against or how well the studios were prepared. The studios were very well prepared and knew exactly what to expect and had planned for it We hear nothing from the studios. Everything we hear is from union heads, their representatives, union activists and media shills, trying to gain public support. There is no way the unions will win this.
Yeah, all this is well and good, but I believe I heard that the main writers (or it might have been the voice actors) of The Simpsons make somewhere in the area of $450k or more per episode. So ZERO sympathy here. I’ll watch reruns while you all strike yourselves into bankruptcy.
I can recall watching a documentary on the model makers that worked on Star Wars and when CGI came around they all lost their jobs. You never heard of any concern from the writers or actors when that happened. These people refuse to acknowledge that things are changing, their stuck in the past. The writers and actors are in for a rude awakening.... just like the model makers who lost their jobs.
Take your minimum wage like the rest of the world or stop writing. Nobody has the time or money to watch movies, play video games, or binge on TV shows. I even need to paid to write YT comments!
Considering that everything lazy Hollywood has produced these last 10 years, were prequels, remakes, sequels and spin-offs, I want them to continue their strike until the day hell freezes over. Let Hollywood die, maybe then we’ll actually get some producers and writers that don’t insult the intelligence of their paying costumers by feeding us the same regurgitated garbage over and over and OVER again and actually earn their living by seeking out new and original ideas.
If it’s harder to create a career, then shouldn’t people drop out of the industry, causing competition to fall and rates rise? I feel for ppl and think changes should be made, but I do suspect there are simply too many ppl trying to make it as writers, many just not terribly talented in writing. The bosses need reigning in, and the model needs change, but there can’t be a guarantee of X ppl being employed as writers and it being a full time gig.
@@mangaman6833 Exactly. Studio execs need to be more tightly controlling, and not just freely let any woke writer's project get funded. They need to release more fascist leaning conspiracy stories, those would be a hit with the masses.
Look at the target audience, they sit there and watch reality TV crap. Look what they did with the history channel, everything’s being dumbed down. They could pay a junior high school kid to write this garbage, and they know this, so maybe they need an A scale and a B scale..for the writers that suck
I’m very torn about this strike currently taking place. I’m a teacher and in my country we saw a complete strike of all teachers - early childhood, primary and secondary - for one day and the outrage among parents was really surprising and disheartening. I’m not attempting to downplay the fact that everyone should be paid what they are worth and that we all know current rates among many industries aren’t keeping up with inflation, recession prices and cost of living, but the fact that when our social welfare, health and education sectors strike everyone gets so up in arms and defensive against it, when people are openly showing support for this industrial action, it makes me very sad, disappointed and confused at the world.
Actually no one cares about the saturation of Hollywood movies. Just settle. Nobody cares. No matter how important you think you are, the general public doesn’t care.
Well, go ahead and tell us (exactly) how screwed you are! I have zero sympathy if you make $70k or more per year. Almost every single one of us has to put up with money and job security issues.
And you should unionize, and force employers to pay a living wage. You should unionize, and you should strike. Wages have remained stagnant for well over a decade. The owners on top have been getting richer, while strangling you into worse living conditions and endless stress struggling for survival. You should unionize and you should strike.
Must be embarrassing and shameful feeling when you find out your occupation is no longer necessary. Theres unfortunately just no compassion for anybody related to hollywood. Good luck
Between cable TV and streaming there are way too many shows to watch. The market is over-saturated for everyone to make a profit. I've only made $2K for a movie I made in 1986. The US needs to stop watching so much TV, and go read a book or go outside and play!
Ironically I wonder how many modelers, designers, fx artists, animators, mat painters etc that do not have the protection of the union and that now will lose their jobs because there is no projects coming in. To make a movie you might need 10 writers? Correct me if I am wrong. But I know you would need a whole fx team of a few hundreds if not thousands to finish it depending of the amount fx needed. You have the right to strike, but I have the right to not support it. Have seen enough people from the fx industry been let go because of this.
Netflix scraped a fully funded anime with a perfect 100% score on rotten tomatoes Animation has enough work the network just needs to put the funding to get the stuff to air or its all pointless and painful for both the makers and the audience
But violence haven't stop till now... Haven't stop from May 3rd... What should we expect? The Govt haven't sort out anything yet... The clashes between the two tribe is still going on...!!! People are dying here... And a lot homeless... Its chaos...
As a props master working in South Africa on Hollywood projects, this really sucks. Residuals?? Get a life! As your parents used to tell you - get a real job
Dear protesters stop crying and go rent some camaras and make your own stuff. If you dont like your boss terms go make your own. Why even protest just move on they couldnt afford you. Go do your own thing and show them what they missed out on. Same to everyone in unions. You dont like it, leave, let them fail.
Let us all stand in solidarity with the Hollywood Studios! There are just way to many "writers" and "actors" looking for lifetime guaranteed income and it ain't happening.
We don't need to know anything about the strike. It's not our concern. WGA chose the fight, let them deal with it. This is WGA vs Studios. The studios are saving tons of cash. Bob Iger wanted to eliminate $3 billion in content and WGA gave him the ideal way to do it. There is more than enough content both domestic and foreign to last a very long time. The same people that took to their social media, calling us racists for speaking out about their gender/race/political and social agendas. Then again accused us of review bombing bad content that they knew was bad. Of course that little thing with the gas and oil workers....what was it again? Oh yeah, ''learn to code''. The studios at least remain silent. All we hear from are the unions, their reps, their strikers and their activists over and over and over. The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets. Fight your fight and leave the public out of it.
This is incoherent rambling. It's also tough to take this argument seriously when you've misspelled the union name. The WGA is the writers' guild. SAG is the actors' guild. There's no such thing as WAG. Pitting workers from different unions against each other is counterintuitive, and it's exactly what big, exploitative corporations want. This strike is more visible than others because it affects our entertainment; stuff many of us watch and care about. Hopefully this strike can bring attention to other labor disputes and other unions' plights. The public hasn't been asked to boycott or change their habits in any way. They're simply being made aware of what the workers want from their employers.
I think maybe Hollywood should give AI a shot. The writing and plot in most shows lately is usually complete garbage. Let's replace the writers that can't create high quality content.
This video is a waste of time. Watched more than half of it and still unclear what the issues are. Just a lot of complaining and demonizing. As if the hosts spend zero time preparing and instead are just gossiping off the top of their head.
Guys, you have to realize, as I'm sure you already do, that film and television production in any capacity is not a steady career. It never was and cannot be reconfigured into something as secure as factory work or some civil service job.
Writers need to find a new proffession. You're going to be replaced just like people who used to work in assembly-line and factory workers. Deal with it.
Maybe you should have become a venture capitalist then. Don’t complain about not making enough money from a profession you chose. In the real world if you aren’t making enough money you do something different.
It’ll actually take about 5 - 7 years for AI to be fully as good or much better than human writers today. Studios are banking on this so that’s why they’re waiting it out, and they’ll do other forms of entertainment in the mean time. People don’t realize how fast AI is improving, its not improving linearly it’s improving exponentially. I’m sry but writers and actors and the rest of all of us are gonna get automated soon
Machine learning is just the process of turning input into output, without any real purpose or inspiration to it like humans are capable of. If machine learning writes your scripts, and then more and more of the past scripts it learns from are ones written by machines, then future scripts are going to have severe defects along the lines of what happens to genetics after several generations of incest. These "incestuous" pools of samples for machine learning are going to kill the movement. Even if machines can write first drafts, you still need authors to refine if not completely rewrite the draft. Humans will never be completely removed from the process, because "AI" isn't actually real.
Not true. Synthetic data is viable because it relies on a vast amount of data to produce. Millions and billions of words in millions of billions of combinations. The originality is the prompt.
Not sure how AI can direct, but writing unto itself is undoubtedly besieged, and, if we're being honest, it could probably do a better job than most script doctors, but scriptwriting itself still needs humans; AI creative writing is very formulaic ... but probably not for long
As a member of IATSE873 I find this very useful. It’s interesting that we produce content every single day for a living and yet find it hard to find information that exposes our very own labour practices. Thank you for this video
This strike is really hurting peoples families not including writers and actors who get paid a whole lot of more money than us. I don’t hear you guys speaking your numbers on what yous make. What’s that 8epispdes paying you and I will tell you what they pay me you would leave that show cus you need more money bro are you all that detached from reality .? Call me what you want but I 5ink this strike is wrong the entire orchestration is negative for more people than it’s positive for
Why not have the teachers submit essays and short stories from their schools to fund school activities and get themselves a bonus these guys would be annoyed sure but ultimately society would benefit I'm not serious it won't happen relax but it would be an intresting experiment to see what kids creativity can do with world class production support
I just got a place to fo a master's in scriptwriting but it costs 8k and i cant get funding to cover that. And looking at the way writers are bding treated, really whats the point - especially if it means getting in debt! And as an artist i live the reality of being screwed by Spotify! Maybe to make money i should be a venture capitalist!😂
Would’ve loved to see this type of support when the other unions tried to strike before the writers and actors. We work 10x as many hours, the work is 10x as hard on our bodies, we don’t get residuals like they do, and we don’t get any recognition.
😂 more tears😢
Let’s pray for socialism brother 🙏
@@nathaniel_fern4207 What kind of movie industry do you think will exist under socialism? :D
@@johnpapst7941 An industry called; 'The people's movie industry'? 🤷♂️
Nurses strike ect should not be overshadowed by these talentless writers
The strike itself is more entertaining than the garbage these writers have been putting out. Please please I beg you keep the strike going for many years to come!
It's important to keep in mind that their actual say is very low and they have to abide by a lot of mandates. I think giving writers more control could very likely improve the quality of the material they put out.
You are not really motivated to put your heart in something if you constantly get reprimanded by people who have no idea what they are talking about, you get shitty pay and you don't get any real credit for your work.
And pretty much everyone supports the writers.
Is someone forcing you to watch their work? lol
@@MrMarinus18 you are wrong. Writers controll haven't changed much. What changed is the quality of the writers. Modern writers deserve LESS.
@@salamander4668 Ah yeah, the typical: Blame the workers and not the system they are a part of. Then provide the only solution possible: Oppress the poor and hope the problem will just vanish.
Ironically bad writing is probably the biggest problem of the US entertainment industry.
They chased off the talented writers and replaced them with more diverse ones, whos identity/appearance is more important than their abilities. Now the industry is crumbling and these studios/streaming services are just going to do anything to survive.
@@theoldgods8229Exactly. Now we'll never again get timeless masterpieces like; Superbabies, Catwoman, Gigli, Ghost Rider 1&2, Terminators 3-6, Jaws 2-4, Blade(s), Meet the Spartans, Battlefield Earth & 30 Fast & Furious movies 😢
@@billymadison8574 Gosh, you mean bad storytelling resulted in box office bombs and diminishing returns in the 1990s-2010s just like it has in the 2020s? Why on earth didn't anyone see this coming? 😆
@@theoldgods8229FACTS
Also chased off the fan base reimagining IPs😊
Nothing like a Vice zoom call to make me absolutely sure that I don't support the current generation of writers and can't wait for this industry to collapse
If we don't need writers, and we dont need actors, we can finally make good movies.
Screw them
Studios will not give in on AI cause they know it could cripple them later. If they give in then smaller start ups will eventually be pumping out tons of AI content at a fraction of the cost and crush the former giants.
If the tech exists it will be used. Remember black and white TV, 8 track tapes and cassettes, VHS machines? All gone and no one misses them. In every instance the new tech was better than what it replaced. Windows 1.0 was revolutionary. Does anyone still use it? Times changes...the world isn't flat anyone. Ever since the industrial revolution...1760 or there about.. people have been replaced and relocated into new fields. It's going to happen.... perhaps sooner is better than later, Time will tell.
@@nightfall902I really don't like the fact that ai can replicate talent. If IA and machines can do that, then what can humans do that AI and machines can do better.
@@wolfgamer8770 The exact opposite of the same coin. Every advance that made life easier, made humans weaker. We now require air conditioning in our cars, homes, workplaces. Escalators, elevators and moving walkways. Cellphones so we have less things to remember. Automation of every kind to do the things humans can't do or do not want to do. The current idea of being outside is the distance travelled from a vehicle to being inside a structure. It's what we have always done. Each step making humans less and less important.
@@nightfall902 Yes but, the fear is how long does it take until automation replaces the work force entirely. How long is it until the only member of a company is the owner. (Entrepreneur or board of directors/share holder.)
@@wolfgamer8770 With all the global issues I don't think there is any real reason to worry about that. Fortunately, and In all probability we will have destroyed the majority of, if not the entire world population long before being replaced by tech.
What You Need to Know About the Writer's Strike - Nobody misses them.
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Nope....AI can already write code and getting better by the day. Eventually %95 of coding will be done by AI. Try again
Who even watches TV anymore? So many superior options. Let them stay out forever.
The only thing you need to know about this strike is that people don't miss them. Please keep striking, forever. Do the world a favor.
Make sure you tell the writers and actors to learn how to code while your at it as well
Yeah let’s see how you feel when we feel the effects of the strike in the upcoming year with no new movies or shows slated for release
@@QuillWorks I welcome it. Please support their strike by letting them continue striking.
I've always watched international movies as well. (And FYI I'm from the Netherlands, not US)
And there's so much content out there already (most of it a bit older because all the recent woke stuff is radioactive gar bage) from within the US and outside it's literally enough to last you a lifetime anyway.
You thought you had a point? Haha.
They are replaceable, and considering most of them are woke gar bage I'd absolutely love it if AI or literal air replaced them.
Also the same with animators, they should offer options to animators if they want to get paid through residuals or per frame.
0:13: 📺 Michael Jam, a TV writer since 1996, discusses the challenges of maintaining a career in the industry.
2:39: 📝 The video discusses the need for authorization votes and better negotiation tactics in guild leadership.
5:06: 📺 The video discusses the reasons why actors might want to leave a hit TV show and the impact of streaming on residuals.
7:33: 💰 Actors and writers are keeping more of the money they help generate by negotiating for residuals.
10:09: 💰 There are risks involved in being a writer, including the potential loss of time and effort if a project doesn't succeed financially.
12:59: 🎥 The video discusses the disparity in wealth distribution between writers/performers and venture capitalists in the entertainment industry, and the impact of AI on their work.
15:55: 🎥 The advancement of AI technology in creating realistic actors could potentially lead to the collapse of the Hollywood industry and all the jobs and industries that support it.
Recap by Tammy AI
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How about we pay our service workers more im not worried about this.
Then why are you here? I bet you NEVER watch TV, you seem so intelligent. Nothing is more American than supporting UNION WORKERS. It’s not US vs US it’s US vs them, the 1%
@minoltaaraya I don't see these guys pushing any initiatives to help the people who pick up their trash, fix their broken a/c systems or make their coffee.
@@glasscrafter669Idk, I've never met an ac repair guy, mechanic, or appliance repairman who wasn't already trying to price gouge me. If we can boycott repairmen who charge $750 to replace a $16 A/C capacitor, count me in.
@@glasscrafter669 each one of those has their own separate union that they can go to if they feel they are being treated unfairly. So what's your point?
Set designers were replaced by graphics, stunt men also.
In the shittiest films possible. What are you watching? Copy & paste Marvel movie vomit?
Refrigerators put the ice man out of business. Computers put the typewriter repairman out of business. It looks like AI is putting the writer out of business. That's called progress.
15:33 regarding AI is the core conversation here. Michael's point of view that AI is bad because it will screw everyone in Hollywood is not wrong, but it is also not a good argument against using AI. If Hollywood doesn't adopt that technology then some kid in their parents basement will & he'll be able to output competitive content at a way lower price point. I feel bad for these writers as their world is turned upside down, but this technology (like all technologies that came before it) is inevitable & it is wiser to figure out a way to leverage it then to fight it, otherwise it's time to start looking for a new career path.
Does anyone miss black and white television or 8 track tapes? How many people are using Window 1.0? In every instance the new has been an improvement over whatever it replaced. It started with the industrial revolution back in around 1760, Things will change. How many people, before these writers, have lost their jobs to technology? When it recently came to the gas and oil workers...these writers took to their social media and suggested that they ''learn to code''. It's time for them to take their own advise and move on.
@@nightfall902Well learning to code woukldnt be a good idea either as AI can already write code and it won't be long till it is not only great at it but can surpass any human coder
@@ItWasntAPhase Agreed, and has already been done faster and better. I used to do entire websites in html by hand in notepad. Now it's all point and click and a 7 year old can do it in minutes. I meant more like, just find a different job.
@@ItWasntAPhase AI is useful for tasks like editing, linting & replicating existing code, but they don't invent, program or compile code into usable software. AI also requires programmers/coders to consistently upgrade, maintain & modify their platforms & training. We'll need coders for a while, cuz it'll take a very long time for AI to become self-reliant and/or develop independent creativity.
Og beavis and butthead fan, that was genius.
After Hollywood ran off half the fan base with charges of ists and phobes when a project was criticized. And now they want fan support
stop moaning bro. if you don't like it learn a new trade.
ath the end of the day it will be US the consumer that will pay more
100%
Right...thats how rates of inflation & buying power for movies/theaters/concert tickets have worked for decades 🤷♂️
I'm not paying more 🏴☠
Is vice just a bunch of shitty zoom calls now? Because it really sucks.
The writers be dragged kicking and screaming but it's inevitable
I hope the entire hollywood system blows up in its entirety. It needs it.
Your bosses don't want you, how does it feel?
Please end the strike
Stupid people need to see Fast and Furious 17 or Thor 9
Todays movies SUCK
Transformers 7 just came out bro...so us stupids are doing just fine 🤤👍
I have a masters dgeree in AI. AI will not replace writers, poets, musicians or actors in the next 100 years. But it will change the way some of them work.
It will certainly replace the dumb ones
So glad I double majored in journalism and communications…i sensed that it would get harder for writers in the future. Now I just use my degree as basically experience as an entrepreneur starting my own businesses
Whats the exchange rate of journalism to basically experience?
Is this satire?
@@user-tm8jt2py3d no just honesty..I started college in 2011 and changed my degree basically jr year from health and human sciences bc I was going for the money and not what I’d enjoy doing with my life and had to stay an extra year.
@@getfreemazes I’ve written for the Memphis grizzles , some local papers etc. it’s just not worth the fight and time it takes to get in the door writing for somebody anymore bc you’re always at risk of getting laid off or replaced sadly. Or getting taken advantage of like this situation
Also I’m a musician…it’s similar with us also which is why I knew I’d have to branch out more
Just learn to code
It says a lot that, 4 months into the strike, the public doesn't even know it's happening.
Unfortunate, but true.
That’s probably because it takes more than 4 months to make a movie genius
@@hagen552 You've missed the point, non-genius. The public doesn't care. too many other entertainment options out there. It's supply and demand and always will be.
@@TheCarterKent Why would the public care if things are still being released? Nothing has really changed for people outside the industry because we still haven’t caught up on what was in production before the strike started. Dune pt II was delayed to counteract the dry spell inevitably catching up with all the backlogged content.
@@hagen552 good point. and there's also 80 years of first rate shows and movies people can watch 24/7 for 20 years.
@@TheCarterKent As you dance around the actual point as to why the public doesn’t know the strike is happening. You even just admitted to have the option to watch things you like better than what’s been coming out, so why do you care?
Hit the oil rigs soy boy
If you forget the rhetoric and look at the facts it becomes clear.
The studios did not want to talk to the union prior to the strike. So why not? Simple answer, they knew the strike was going to happen and it was okay with them.
The studios waited weeks before making a decent offer of about 85% of what was asked for , while ignoring key sticking points. Why was that? They wanted the offer to be rejected so the strike would continue. Then they leaked the offer to show how fair it was.
If it's true that it would only cost 1% of profits to meet union demands, why would the studios not agree to pay such a small and insignificant amount? Because it's not about the contract or the money. WGA SAG AFTRA are not the only unions the studios have to deal with. There are others that they will need to deal with in the future.
The studios were prepared for this, not only did they have more than enough legacy content stored and global content available, but stopping productions and wages was a huge bonus in savings. Something that the shareholders love to hear.
The unions had no idea what they were up against or how well the studios were prepared. The studios were very well prepared and knew exactly what to expect and had planned for it
We hear nothing from the studios. Everything we hear is from union heads, their representatives, union activists and media shills, trying to gain public support. There is no way the unions will win this.
TV writers are really so insulated from the rest of the country that they actually think what theyre saying is new xD
Are there any interviews from ppl coming from the opposing side?
Those four shows given as his big-name items are such bad shows though. 😓
Yeah, all this is well and good, but I believe I heard that the main writers (or it might have been the voice actors) of The Simpsons make somewhere in the area of $450k or more per episode. So ZERO sympathy here. I’ll watch reruns while you all strike yourselves into bankruptcy.
I wonder how and if writers and actors would support the visual effects / post production if they were to strike and whatnot
I can recall watching a documentary on the model makers that worked on Star Wars and when CGI came around they all lost their jobs. You never heard of any concern from the writers or actors when that happened. These people refuse to acknowledge that things are changing, their stuck in the past. The writers and actors are in for a rude awakening.... just like the model makers who lost their jobs.
Si Bueno!
Take your minimum wage like the rest of the world or stop writing. Nobody has the time or money to watch movies, play video games, or binge on TV shows.
I even need to paid to write YT comments!
Considering that everything lazy Hollywood has produced these last 10 years, were prequels, remakes, sequels and spin-offs, I want them to continue their strike until the day hell freezes over. Let Hollywood die, maybe then we’ll actually get some producers and writers that don’t insult the intelligence of their paying costumers by feeding us the same regurgitated garbage over and over and OVER again and actually earn their living by seeking out new and original ideas.
Keep on striking... forever!!!!😂😂😂
How do we prolong the writers strike to a permanent state of affairs in hollywood?
Michael Jam loosely reminds me of Ray Ramano
If it’s harder to create a career, then shouldn’t people drop out of the industry, causing competition to fall and rates rise?
I feel for ppl and think changes should be made, but I do suspect there are simply too many ppl trying to make it as writers, many just not terribly talented in writing.
The bosses need reigning in, and the model needs change, but there can’t be a guarantee of X ppl being employed as writers and it being a full time gig.
You are exactly right. For example, anyone can write woke rewrites of classics. That’s 30-40% right there.
@@mangaman6833 Exactly. Studio execs need to be more tightly controlling, and not just freely let any woke writer's project get funded. They need to release more fascist leaning conspiracy stories, those would be a hit with the masses.
If people cared, it’d be over by now. Write your own material instead of taken what’s already been created 🤷♂️
Hollywood writers should learn to code.
99% of the output from Hollywood these days sucks, strike forever I got plenty of anime and kdramas to watch.
If you have 10 week contract can you work out contracts to fill the other 42?
Literally no one cares.
And yet here you are commenting on this
@@Beanhill_94 😆 🤣 good talk Tanya
Yawn don't care😂 greedy people make too much already.
I never thought I'd be on the stupid side on the internet, Yet here i am.
Hollywood laughed at AI until it spit out Global Thermonuclear Race Swap for a movie script.
RIP Hollywoke
Look at the target audience, they sit there and watch reality TV crap. Look what they did with the history channel, everything’s being dumbed down. They could pay a junior high school kid to write this garbage, and they know this, so maybe they need an A scale and a B scale..for the writers that suck
I’m very torn about this strike currently taking place. I’m a teacher and in my country we saw a complete strike of all teachers - early childhood, primary and secondary - for one day and the outrage among parents was really surprising and disheartening.
I’m not attempting to downplay the fact that everyone should be paid what they are worth and that we all know current rates among many industries aren’t keeping up with inflation, recession prices and cost of living, but the fact that when our social welfare, health and education sectors strike everyone gets so up in arms and defensive against it, when people are openly showing support for this industrial action, it makes me very sad, disappointed and confused at the world.
Actually no one cares about the saturation of Hollywood movies. Just settle. Nobody cares. No matter how important you think you are, the general public doesn’t care.
We want a Hogan Hero movie about the Last Days of WW2 !!!
If A.i. wins to write Scrips then its opening Pandoras box, then they are okay to take a shot at your job too
Well, go ahead and tell us (exactly) how screwed you are! I have zero sympathy if you make $70k or more per year. Almost every single one of us has to put up with money and job security issues.
And you should unionize, and force employers to pay a living wage. You should unionize, and you should strike. Wages have remained stagnant for well over a decade. The owners on top have been getting richer, while strangling you into worse living conditions and endless stress struggling for survival. You should unionize and you should strike.
Must be embarrassing and shameful feeling when you find out your occupation is no longer necessary. Theres unfortunately just no compassion for anybody related to hollywood. Good luck
Snore. Some random guys zoom room. CREEPY
Between cable TV and streaming there are way too many shows to watch. The market is over-saturated for everyone to make a profit. I've only made $2K for a movie I made in 1986. The US needs to stop watching so much TV, and go read a book or go outside and play!
Books??? Those things with all those pages that you have to turn manually?? If they read the book they'll hate the movies.
Mike, how much $ to legaly change ur first name too "BEN"?
I was with him until he said Hollywood might collapse.
And then i wish it happened... With all the Eps & whine steenes will go away too
Ironically I wonder how many modelers, designers, fx artists, animators, mat painters etc that do not have the protection of the union and that now will lose their jobs because there is no projects coming in.
To make a movie you might need 10 writers? Correct me if I am wrong.
But I know you would need a whole fx team of a few hundreds if not thousands to finish it depending of the amount fx needed.
You have the right to strike, but I have the right to not support it.
Have seen enough people from the fx industry been let go because of this.
Netflix scraped a fully funded anime with a perfect 100% score on rotten tomatoes Animation has enough work the network just needs to put the funding to get the stuff to air or its all pointless and painful for both the makers and the audience
They have a separate union called The Animation Guild.
Everything we need to know is that woke Hollywood is jobless.....enough for us😂😂😂😂
Please look into our state situation... Manipur, India... Please Vice 🤲 We need to let people know...
What's happening?
Govt has already taken all measures for the safety and security of the state
But violence haven't stop till now... Haven't stop from May 3rd... What should we expect? The Govt haven't sort out anything yet... The clashes between the two tribe is still going on...!!! People are dying here... And a lot homeless... Its chaos...
As a props master working in South Africa on Hollywood projects, this really sucks. Residuals?? Get a life! As your parents used to tell you - get a real job
Vice went from great news, to this CRAP….,
I feel like most of the content for Disney Plus was written by AI.
I'm team AI.
Dear protesters stop crying and go rent some camaras and make your own stuff. If you dont like your boss terms go make your own. Why even protest just move on they couldnt afford you. Go do your own thing and show them what they missed out on. Same to everyone in unions. You dont like it, leave, let them fail.
They won't fail they will import cheap labor from overseas. Then we as consumers are stuck paying more for poorer quality goods.
didn't know vice was still a thing.
Let us all stand in solidarity with the Hollywood Studios! There are just way to many "writers" and "actors" looking for lifetime guaranteed income and it ain't happening.
Not sure rooting for the corporate executives of a $100 billion industry is the right move either...
Let them starve…
We don't need to know anything about the strike. It's not our concern. WGA chose the fight, let them deal with it. This is WGA vs Studios. The studios are saving tons of cash. Bob Iger wanted to eliminate $3 billion in content and WGA gave him the ideal way to do it. There is more than enough content both domestic and foreign to last a very long time. The same people that took to their social media, calling us racists for speaking out about their gender/race/political and social agendas. Then again accused us of review bombing bad content that they knew was bad. Of course that little thing with the gas and oil workers....what was it again? Oh yeah, ''learn to code''. The studios at least remain silent. All we hear from are the unions, their reps, their strikers and their activists over and over and over. The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets. Fight your fight and leave the public out of it.
This is incoherent rambling. It's also tough to take this argument seriously when you've misspelled the union name. The WGA is the writers' guild. SAG is the actors' guild. There's no such thing as WAG.
Pitting workers from different unions against each other is counterintuitive, and it's exactly what big, exploitative corporations want. This strike is more visible than others because it affects our entertainment; stuff many of us watch and care about. Hopefully this strike can bring attention to other labor disputes and other unions' plights.
The public hasn't been asked to boycott or change their habits in any way. They're simply being made aware of what the workers want from their employers.
the cream will eventually rise to the top
I think maybe Hollywood should give AI a shot. The writing and plot in most shows lately is usually complete garbage. Let's replace the writers that can't create high quality content.
This video is a waste of time. Watched more than half of it and still unclear what the issues are. Just a lot of complaining and demonizing. As if the hosts spend zero time preparing and instead are just gossiping off the top of their head.
Guys, you have to realize, as I'm sure you already do, that film and television production in any capacity is not a steady career.
It never was and cannot be reconfigured into something as secure as factory work or some civil service job.
I actually like Stinky and the Chuckleboys.
They are all gonna get replaced by Ai
Writers need to find a new proffession. You're going to be replaced just like people who used to work in assembly-line and factory workers. Deal with it.
If you want steady employment. don't go into studio writing. everyone wants to do that job......
I wonder what AI applications they’re talking about
Maybe you should have become a venture capitalist then. Don’t complain about not making enough money from a profession you chose. In the real world if you aren’t making enough money you do something different.
It’ll actually take about 5 - 7 years for AI to be fully as good or much better than human writers today. Studios are banking on this so that’s why they’re waiting it out, and they’ll do other forms of entertainment in the mean time. People don’t realize how fast AI is improving, its not improving linearly it’s improving exponentially. I’m sry but writers and actors and the rest of all of us are gonna get automated soon
Machine learning is just the process of turning input into output, without any real purpose or inspiration to it like humans are capable of. If machine learning writes your scripts, and then more and more of the past scripts it learns from are ones written by machines, then future scripts are going to have severe defects along the lines of what happens to genetics after several generations of incest. These "incestuous" pools of samples for machine learning are going to kill the movement.
Even if machines can write first drafts, you still need authors to refine if not completely rewrite the draft. Humans will never be completely removed from the process, because "AI" isn't actually real.
@@hagoryopi2101exactly! well said.
@coltonsimms763 im so sorry to be the one to tell you this, but Chat GPT is literally trained on that "woke crap" LMAO
Not true. Synthetic data is viable because it relies on a vast amount of data to produce. Millions and billions of words in millions of billions of combinations. The originality is the prompt.
Homie likes eating sludge for breakfast
Their jobs are obsolete. We have ChatGPT now.
Why don’t your fellow actors give you some of their millions?
Cable? .... ew i have a chromecast 😂
Not sure how AI can direct, but writing unto itself is undoubtedly besieged, and, if we're being honest, it could probably do a better job than most script doctors, but scriptwriting itself still needs humans; AI creative writing is very formulaic ... but probably not for long
Idk. I think the upcoming 4th Spider-Man reboot, Fast & Furious 13 & six Jurassic Park movies means human writers tend to be formulaic too 🤷♂️
Right behind you.
Can't negotiate, only strike?
As a member of IATSE873 I find this very useful. It’s interesting that we produce content every single day for a living and yet find it hard to find information that exposes our very own labour practices. Thank you for this video
This strike is really hurting peoples families not including writers and actors who get paid a whole lot of more money than us. I don’t hear you guys speaking your numbers on what yous make. What’s that 8epispdes paying you and I will tell you what they pay me you would leave that show cus you need more money bro are you all that detached from reality .? Call me what you want but I 5ink this strike is wrong the entire orchestration is negative for more people than it’s positive for
Writers don’t need any more money. Let’s get our teachers paid first
Then go talk to your state government. Writers aren't getting paid using our taxes and most of them don't make squat.
Teachers and writers don't both get get paid by entertainment producers.
Teachers in many states are underpaid
Fire underperforming teachers and bad writers. That would probably be a good solution to both situations.
What kind of tax hike are you willing to support to raise teacher salaries?
Why not have the teachers submit essays and short stories from their schools to fund school activities and get themselves a bonus these guys would be annoyed sure but ultimately society would benefit I'm not serious it won't happen relax but it would be an intresting experiment to see what kids creativity can do with world class production support
Amazon is hiring
Do they get paid minimum wage or something?
Fire all of them
I just got a place to fo a master's in scriptwriting but it costs 8k and i cant get funding to cover that. And looking at the way writers are bding treated, really whats the point - especially if it means getting in debt! And as an artist i live the reality of being screwed by Spotify! Maybe to make money i should be a venture capitalist!😂