Infinite BLACK LOTUS Combo | Garth One Eye | Modern MTG | Against the Odds

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  • @jacfac9969
    @jacfac9969 3 роки тому +206

    The best against the odds decks are the combo decks that take so much setup that by the time you actually go off your board state is already so absurd your opponent scooped 5 minutes ago

    • @maxiewawa
      @maxiewawa 3 роки тому +9

      Only in Against the Odds do you get a disappointed "Ohhhhhhh" after the opponent concedes. 19:32

  • @gregthewalnut603
    @gregthewalnut603 3 роки тому +45

    "If the deck plays Omnath to win with Garth, the deck is fair. If the deck plays Garth and wins with Omnath, the deck is unfair" -Sun Tzu

  • @RyuBateson218
    @RyuBateson218 3 роки тому +61

    14 mana 3 card 5 color combo. Busted!!!

  • @fel_95
    @fel_95 3 роки тому +89

    Finally, we broke Deadeye Navigator!

    • @ODIRGO
      @ODIRGO 3 роки тому

      Finally?

    • @keabonhall9046
      @keabonhall9046 3 роки тому +11

      @@ODIRGO he’s making a joke big dawg

  • @cloysterd
    @cloysterd 3 роки тому +25

    Man do I love me a Glittering Wish deck.
    I feel like Rhythm of the Wild is better than Temur Ascendancy as a source of haste. Making your creatures uncounterable is a real thing.

    • @Aronia55
      @Aronia55 3 роки тому +7

      You can't expect Seth to decline card draw

    • @dicedicebaby90
      @dicedicebaby90 3 роки тому +4

      Rhythm only applies to non tokens so I'm not sure if shivan dragon would have haste. Limits you to the brain geyser finish

  • @benvoliothefirst
    @benvoliothefirst 3 роки тому +2

    He's got a voice perfect for silent movies, but I can't argue with the guy's passion and knowledge.

  • @ebonezra8073
    @ebonezra8073 3 роки тому +5

    You know you've been burned by Omnath, Locus of Creation one too many times when you forget he doesn't just make 4 mana, draw a card, make breakfast, and put a land into play as an ETB.

  • @seanmoore9808
    @seanmoore9808 3 роки тому +4

    "I feel like the way we win this is by not dying" - Seth
    I've been playing Magic Wrong all these years.

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc 3 роки тому +79

    This Black Lotus token seems pretty good. They should make that a real card

    • @regirayquaza
      @regirayquaza 3 роки тому

      So, Merc, you want to play with cards, but see that man over there? He has more money than you. That means that he gets to play with them and no one else does. Why? Because long ago, a man who's now old but wasn't back then decided that even though he likes you and thinks you're cute, you don't deserve this card. Ever. Now, you could get a fake, but then you wouldn't be allowed in official play. Because you lack money. Do you see the problem? Well there isn't one. Money makes the world go round so if you want to have fun, no matter the circumstance, you're gonna have to fork over some dough because nothing in life is free. Everything in Magic. Do you get what I'm getting at? It's that WotC wants what's best for society and that's for people to work for a living and so we do in our foolish pursuits of getting cards. Godspeed on your journey, Merc, and if you'll excuse me, I have to explain to some kid that though he has been bullied all through school, that maybe he's been the bully this whole time.

    • @MidgarMerc
      @MidgarMerc 3 роки тому +3

      @@regirayquaza wotc doesn't profit from the reserved list though. The only reason it still exists is because they'd rather not bother with the lawsuits from the mtg finance crowd that they wouldn't lose anyway cause social contracts are not real contracts and wotc has full control of their intellectual property

    • @ryangarvey8207
      @ryangarvey8207 3 роки тому

      @@MidgarMerc it could cause big issues with their fan base though potentially costing millions

    • @MidgarMerc
      @MidgarMerc 3 роки тому

      @@ryangarvey8207 lol nah. The reserve list is a lie as evidenced by stuff like alpha Birds of Paradises retaining their huge prices despite the card having been reprinted a hundred times. Any actual legal issues would get thrown out or never even actually be followed through with because WotC didn't actually do anything wrong. The only reason they don't abolish it is because they'd rather just not have a huge fiasco with the MTG Finance leeches. But reprinting reserved list cards would be nothing but profit.
      Having said that though I don't actually want Black Lotus reprinted because it's not actually LEGAL in anything except Vintage so there'd be 0 reason to even own one and it would just serve to spike the price of whatever product it's in. Duals however 10000000% need to be reprinted and it's disgusting that they're on the reserved list to begin with. Gaea's Cradle and other commander powerhouses too.

    • @ryangarvey8207
      @ryangarvey8207 3 роки тому

      @@MidgarMerc if u think reprinting a black lotus wouldn't cause major issues with the fan base then idk what to tell ya, also reprinting dual lands would make every single two colored lands printed past 1996 obsolete

  • @psychozen7169
    @psychozen7169 3 роки тому +2

    Seth unbelievably impressed not only with the deck but actual game play hats off to you sir!

  • @diobrando5896
    @diobrando5896 3 роки тому +35

    I did not know that many people would scoop when they saw Garth.

    • @jasonmalin1010
      @jasonmalin1010 3 роки тому

      Yeah doesnt make sense. Maybe they dont like shenanigans

    • @mxspokes
      @mxspokes 3 роки тому +3

      Nobody is playing fair magic with garth

    • @jasonmalin1010
      @jasonmalin1010 3 роки тому

      @@mxspokes you say that like it means something .... cards exist and they get used get over it .

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 Рік тому

      @@jasonmalin1010 I imagine it's pretty demoralizing for the opponent to have that card out.

  • @ebonezra8073
    @ebonezra8073 3 роки тому +2

    @Seth You always tell Richard that with enough broken cards to back them up, any card can be good.
    I feel like you evened the odds this week in just such a way.

  • @TheSLATEcleaner
    @TheSLATEcleaner 3 роки тому +2

    This video proves a point - turns out the best part of Garth is just being able to kill someone by attacking with it 3 or 4 times. Great example is in the game vs GW Heliod, Seth was upset about the opponent scooping to Omnath + Temur Ascendancy + Garth in play. The fact was, you didn't need to combo from there. With an empty hand, you still untap, cast Terror [or Regrowth Deafening Clarion] off Garth to kill their Skyclave Apparition, draw a card off the 4/4 token entering play, then attack for 8, putting them on a two turn clock even if they trade with the Omnath. The combo just made it so even if they drew Heliod they would lose to an infinite Braingeyser.
    Edit: The second game makes it even more obvious. You untap with Garth and either kill Apparition and make a 3/3, make a Shivan Dragon, or attack for 5. GW Heliod has trouble with any of those things.

  • @redstonepro5412
    @redstonepro5412 3 роки тому +3

    2:30 i personally think it is a good thing if you include typical powerful staples to make the other cards work.

  • @towelguy
    @towelguy 3 роки тому +9

    I get the combo is fun but a shivan dragon win in modern would have been also quite hype

  • @merrytime8665
    @merrytime8665 3 роки тому +1

    Nice sportsmanship by Opp 39:01 . Cool to see

  • @beelor5777
    @beelor5777 3 роки тому +5

    Garth can be used at instant speed so you can cast things at eot on opponents turn so you dont tap out on your turn.

    • @JoaoCameloN
      @JoaoCameloN 3 роки тому +2

      Casting the cards off garth has to be done at the correct timing however. If you don't have a flash outlet, you can't cast anything other than disenchant or terror at end step.

    • @brooke1129
      @brooke1129 3 роки тому +2

      @@JoaoCameloN no they don't, you cast them as a part of the ability's resolution so you can ignore timing restrictions. you can see seth cast a black lotus in response to a temur ascendancy trigger at 36:40

    • @beelor5777
      @beelor5777 3 роки тому

      @@JoaoCameloN like brooke said, you cast on resolution of ability. if the ability said, you may cast X this turn then you would have to use on your turn.

  • @Small_Panda
    @Small_Panda 3 роки тому +7

    This honestly reminds me of my mono green devotion back in the day using temur ascednacy and nkythos shrine to make infinite mana and infinite hydras.

    • @Flarhoon
      @Flarhoon 3 роки тому

      Mono green... How's Temur Ascendancy in mono green devotion?

    • @Small_Panda
      @Small_Panda 3 роки тому

      @@Flarhoon the deck was mono green besides temur ascendancy. The deck was called mono green devotion it was basically the same deck that ran mystery of the unseen

  • @Red-Tower
    @Red-Tower 3 роки тому +1

    Okay, but it's so surreal to see MULTIPLE Black Lotuses on the battlefield in MODERN of all formats. That's wild!

  • @jjohansen86
    @jjohansen86 3 роки тому +2

    "Make a Black Lotus... Black Lotus... and another Black Lotus."
    That's beautiful.

  • @SyntheticReign
    @SyntheticReign 3 роки тому +7

    Lol match 1 Seth saying "Well, we couldn't pull off the full combo." like...you didn't pull off ANY of the combo, that was just Omnath and Kaya's Guile lol. Turns out good cards just win games, who knew? :P

  • @bjarkov12
    @bjarkov12 3 роки тому +5

    feels like a 5c niv in the board would help

  • @ianv.5831
    @ianv.5831 3 роки тому +5

    The black lotus made me think:
    Smoke stack tribal? Stuff that sacrifices other stuff symmetrically?

  • @tthakshmm3349
    @tthakshmm3349 3 роки тому +3

    I would say do whatever it takes to make sweet things happen, if that means you have to play busted and overpowered cards sometimes to make the sweet things happen, oh well, go for it as long as it's sweet.
    It's better to have the broken cards to enable what you're trying to do and then just occasionally winning due to an opponent scooping instead of just getting beaten down into a loss with no chance of winning or pulling off the combo.

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof 3 роки тому +12

    Imagine selling your house to buy a token.

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 3 роки тому +2

    garth actually looked like a reasonable card in modern. not with the combo but just playing a 5/5 for 5 that is the mostest of flexable, you could put in like a 5c omnath or niv mizzit deck

    • @DimT670
      @DimT670 3 роки тому +1

      I genuinely never expected him to legitimately cast brain guizer or terror

  • @MrGrimlocksmash
    @MrGrimlocksmash 3 роки тому +1

    Post really did command zone dirty with this combo.

  • @TotallyTribal
    @TotallyTribal 3 роки тому +1

    Finally a deck where black lotus js good

  • @andrewrosston7863
    @andrewrosston7863 3 роки тому +1

    I'm glad you had eyes for this cool deck

  • @jfb-
    @jfb- 3 роки тому +6

    Did you know that garth can be used at instant speed?

  • @silverdeathgamer2907
    @silverdeathgamer2907 3 роки тому

    If you flicker Garth with deadeye navigator you can choose the same option again so you won't run out of options with it as you said at 35:40

  • @ThunderousChemQ27
    @ThunderousChemQ27 3 роки тому +2

    12:01 The fact that they didn’t code the Alpha art of the cards for when you activate Garth on MODO is a bit disappointing. Being original frame is a nice touch, but still.

  • @jstuckless
    @jstuckless 3 роки тому +2

    The real hero was the opponent for letting you durdle through the combo.

  • @kookooburu
    @kookooburu 3 роки тому +3

    25:14 fetching Overgrown tomb would've let you Unmoored ego that turn rather than waiting

  • @grouphug1013
    @grouphug1013 3 роки тому +2

    I knew this was going to happen. I called it out so many times.

  • @sstankfish
    @sstankfish 3 роки тому +1

    Dors this mean Tourach is next?! I wanna see ma boiiiii!!!!

  • @teferiuwuraveler1407
    @teferiuwuraveler1407 3 роки тому +7

    see the only thing i dont like about omnath is it just kind of feels like you win off of omnath and the garth combo is basically taking a mulligan to 5 every game lol. wrenn and six is support, omnath is a wincon

  • @JJpleex
    @JJpleex 3 роки тому +2

    This was pure joy

  • @kevinscott8437
    @kevinscott8437 3 роки тому +6

    I feel like 5c Niv Mizzet would be good here with all the multicolored synergies and dead eye navigator

    • @albertosartini
      @albertosartini 3 роки тому +4

      5c niv only get the dual colored pairs, so no Garth, no Dead-eye, no Ascendancy. There are actually only four card that you can get with niv, since all the removal are orzhov. There's a high chance to miss, it is absolutely out of place.

  • @syltsaft
    @syltsaft 3 роки тому

    Love your Omnath deck you got there

  • @ChugThatEstus
    @ChugThatEstus 3 роки тому +1

    Red insects, running sex, the translator is nuts.
    😂

  • @ajgallego2409
    @ajgallego2409 3 роки тому +1

    Seth: I would rather be a dirty Omnath player
    Editor: So be it, 2:50

    • @eusouzoom
      @eusouzoom 3 роки тому

      You talking about omnath being the same color of the "green screen" color?

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 3 роки тому +1

    This week on against the odds: We play Niv to Light without Bright to Light or Niv

    • @derrickthewhite1
      @derrickthewhite1 3 роки тому +3

      Actually, a series about playing tier decks without their namesake cards could be pretty cool. Can you make amulet titan work without the amulet or the titan? Can you make the stoneforge shell work without the mystic and equipment? Death's shadow without death's shadow? Usually you'll need to put something flashy in to replace them...
      though good luck playing humans without any actual humans.

  • @TheIron890
    @TheIron890 3 роки тому

    Nice deck, but wouldn't it be cooler to go with bring to light or maybe niv mizzet for the wish?

  • @josephasphahani7984
    @josephasphahani7984 3 роки тому

    Nice!!!! Hey Seth, I was wondering if thousand year storm Modern is viable now that we have Strike It Rich...? Against the odds someday?

  • @notmynormalusername1
    @notmynormalusername1 3 роки тому +1

    If you need infinite Black Lotus' to make it playable, is it even good?

  • @diobrando5896
    @diobrando5896 3 роки тому +4

    Simon and garth funkle

  • @thechestrockfield
    @thechestrockfield Рік тому

    If it ain't Budget Magic, then we don't need a budget decklist. I wanna see combos; play whatever'll get us there!

  • @rfs8194
    @rfs8194 3 роки тому

    Party on, Wayne!
    Party on, Garth!

  • @bubblecheese2506
    @bubblecheese2506 3 роки тому

    This guy stands on the corner of Main & High St. "I'll play with your deck for $20. Come on man...let me play with your deck."

  • @artholomu
    @artholomu 2 роки тому

    Do we ever do Against the Odds follow ups? I love splashing Garth in Jeskai Ascendancy as well.

  • @MacTruckBrickHouse
    @MacTruckBrickHouse 3 роки тому

    It sounds so cool in theory, but then you watch it and.. yeah haha

  • @BelowTheBridgeTCG
    @BelowTheBridgeTCG 3 роки тому

    Should this be a bring to light deck

  • @shammerHammer
    @shammerHammer 3 роки тому

    Why didn't you use Kayas Guile during the oppos turn against red when they had the eidolon? Free damage, or am I mistaken?

  • @notthis9586
    @notthis9586 2 роки тому

    A Garth deck where your opponents scoop to Omnath. Sneaky!

  • @frogpizza
    @frogpizza 3 роки тому

    nice omnath deck

  • @CountryMaster16
    @CountryMaster16 3 роки тому

    wait a sec dead eye navigators effect can only be used once in a turn or do i see that wrong?

  • @fo-ef8qo
    @fo-ef8qo 3 роки тому +2

    yes!!! seth!!! use powerful cards!!!

  • @TT-gc3ze
    @TT-gc3ze 3 роки тому +1

    @25:00 search untap land and fire unmoored ego?

  • @brandonr.2807
    @brandonr.2807 3 роки тому +1

    Seth looks more an more homeless with each vijeo....this is epic

    • @Red-Tower
      @Red-Tower 3 роки тому

      He might "look homeless" but he's actually about to BUY his own house and set up a home recording studio!

  • @gbasso666
    @gbasso666 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: Meddling Mage cannot name Black Lotus, because you can't name cards that are illegal in the format. lol

  • @austinmairet1772
    @austinmairet1772 3 роки тому +2

    The amount of times people just scooped to an unanswered omnath made me sad. They don’t realize the rest of the deck is a jank combo that they should sit through for the fun of it

    • @rjuram
      @rjuram 3 роки тому +3

      Idk dude I got shit to do, and I imagine everyone else does too

    • @cloaking111
      @cloaking111 3 роки тому +1

      It really isn't all that flashy on a cliënt like magic online and these combos are about as bad on arena, although there you'd probably have some sort of animation with your navigator.
      in paper I would sit through it though

    • @jonnystorms3310
      @jonnystorms3310 3 роки тому

      To be fair to the burn player they probably got siege rhino flashbacks

  • @capnvariance
    @capnvariance 3 роки тому

    I thought that even choosing the name causes it to not be an available target after it was chosen, or is it chosen by the copy on the battlefield?

  • @ninjamonkey2321
    @ninjamonkey2321 3 роки тому

    I think the sideboard could replace a few to add some rest in peice or a leyline of the viod. Just my opinion.

  • @texhakathisia1712
    @texhakathisia1712 3 роки тому

    Glorious

  • @SolitudeDante
    @SolitudeDante 3 роки тому +1

    Seth your hair looks amazing! no homo xD ♠

  • @Skankhunt-sj7bk
    @Skankhunt-sj7bk 3 роки тому

    Love against the odds

  • @tomorrow3582
    @tomorrow3582 3 роки тому +2

    Omg just make a Shivan Dragon lol

  • @Germynator31
    @Germynator31 3 роки тому

    How do I vote for next week?
    The link in the article goes to the main channel page, and here is nothing to click on

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  3 роки тому +2

      The poll is on the community tab (ua-cam.com/users/MTGGoldfishcommunity).

  • @Nink262
    @Nink262 3 роки тому +2

    Bow to last opponent that let combo-off

  • @BAM_Deadstroke
    @BAM_Deadstroke 3 роки тому

    I personally don't mind inclusions of stuff like Omnath and/or Wren and Six in AtO videos. I get that the point of the series is to do something completely ridiculous, but the decks should be functional. When you have a 5-color deck in modern, why not play cards that work well to make sure you get the point of doing your ridiculous combo?

  • @stonerainproductions
    @stonerainproductions 3 роки тому

    Hey Seth, why not Mass Hysteria instead of Temur Ascendancy?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  3 роки тому

      Because giving our opponents stuff haste is too risky.

    • @stonerainproductions
      @stonerainproductions 3 роки тому

      @@MTGGoldfish ok cool..I just figured it might be better to play the turn before the deck went off.

  • @BaygelTheDog
    @BaygelTheDog 3 роки тому

    so today i learned that omnath is a strong magic card

  • @jasonl1184
    @jasonl1184 3 роки тому

    Cat combo with a million extra steps LOL

  • @cemereffstream7866
    @cemereffstream7866 2 роки тому

    why not a coalition victory on the side?

  • @maazsarkar8673
    @maazsarkar8673 2 роки тому

    adladrami? nice

  • @DuelingCharisma
    @DuelingCharisma 3 роки тому

    WOTC gonna catch wind of this and ban Deadeye (because Garth is new and Ascendancy doesn’t do nearly as much)

  • @heliomaciel
    @heliomaciel 3 роки тому

    Always be the dirty Omnath player

  • @MrShinyObject
    @MrShinyObject 3 роки тому

    Against the Odds: Shivan Dragon

  • @kaseybennett7415
    @kaseybennett7415 2 роки тому

    Garth Fun-Guy

  • @jaggededge11
    @jaggededge11 3 роки тому

    I feel like this deck should have had access to Lightning Greeves. While you can't tutor it, it does give you the ability to protect a key creature (Especially something like Omnath).

  • @MultiTaz333
    @MultiTaz333 3 роки тому

    Party on garth one eye

  • @jerrymcdaniel6643
    @jerrymcdaniel6643 3 роки тому

    Party on Wayne

  • @LowellLGraves
    @LowellLGraves 3 роки тому

    I wish there was another way to do this bc omnath won so many games on his own but I also don't blame ya

  • @malikismyname
    @malikismyname 3 роки тому

    4 x utopia sprawl is $60??

  • @whitesmith5985
    @whitesmith5985 3 роки тому

    Bad thing about combos like these is that they are very "win more"
    I have a few sweet ones that are similar gaha

  • @Knavidson
    @Knavidson 3 роки тому

    When I saw the thumbnail, I thought the "g" in glittering was a "c" and instantly wondered WTF Seth was doing.....

  • @ricardolopes3520
    @ricardolopes3520 3 роки тому

    Iam disppointing Seth no Niv-Mizzet Reborn on deck 😔

  • @drob128
    @drob128 3 роки тому

    Why is everyone scooping to garth?

  • @sylvanfranklin6904
    @sylvanfranklin6904 3 роки тому

    This should be called glittering Kya’s guile not glittering Garth

    • @cloaking111
      @cloaking111 3 роки тому

      And all that glitters is Garth...
      ...only shooting stars break the mold

  • @danielboniello6212
    @danielboniello6212 3 роки тому

    Wait, why is black lotus modern legal now? Lol

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  3 роки тому +3

      It's only legal if you make it with Garth ;)

  • @melonyfbb
    @melonyfbb 3 роки тому

    You went 2.5-2.5

  • @daviddent5662
    @daviddent5662 3 роки тому

    Seth: "I'm gonna break Garth!"
    Me: "Yesss! Commander tech ideas!"
    Also Seth: "In Modern!"
    Also Me: "...Uh...The format is so aggro we have one turn kill squirrels deck but alright."

  • @Helpmebeoriginal
    @Helpmebeoriginal 3 роки тому

    Seth rocks

  • @gamerpanda1936
    @gamerpanda1936 3 роки тому

    Pacing of this video feels so odd

  • @andrewhumphries7005
    @andrewhumphries7005 3 роки тому

    Too many decks you build get blown out. C'mon man.

    • @larryy5166
      @larryy5166 3 роки тому +1

      He plays decks that win "against the odds" or on a budget...

  • @extraemontamontes3618
    @extraemontamontes3618 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think garth is that good for a mono black deck