Honestly I think they are both the best Archetypes. Tycoon is insane for crits and damage as well as being more prevalent early on(merchant is also insanely broken especially when you get him) but Prince basically cheats with extra turns, resistance to everything, the ability to substitute ANY synthesis archetype, and Armageddon from persona 3.
I honestly thought Tycoon was just kind of a grinding archetype for the longest time, but once I got the triple damage weapon I couldn't justify using anything else. Even without the setup you use here a single Tycoon makes the dragon trials a breeze.
@@arcnateyou can get the abbacus by stealing it from jin (neutas last quest) if you're lucky you'll get 2 and then on the last dungeon skyshutter something you can steal as much as you want from the human monster voidblack homo something
I thought the same until I realized that I had MC in the backlines. And then I found the double money damage weapon from the faker social bond mission.
This carried me through the game. It required a lot of setup, but was totally worth it. It is a glass cannon, but it is highly effective on damage. I do wish the game had more love for Magic builds (my OC was originally magic, so Strohl and Basilio were the damage dealers, OC and Heismay for De/Buffs). Thanks for the video!
Its not even a glass cannon, since you can run the tycoon squad from the backline and get bardon rank 4 bonuses, and full damage on gold rush. Its one of the best builds, pretty simple to run
@@EGO.BReAKERR I beat the game on hard and the final boss at full strenght with a magic main. Sure, its not a cheese one shot build or something like that but a mage build definitely gets the job done. It just requires actually playing the game because you can get in trouble with some bosses. Everything is doable though so I dont regret playing mage during my first PT.
Spire of Blind Faith brought me here, because oh WOW, I thought the Dragon Temple was a change in the difficulty curve...! Time to build up my tycoons and go HAM on this dragon. Thank you!
Yeah the moment I saw the merchant gold attack skill I was like Woah.....since it is almighty....it can ignore all element/repel etc....i was laughing 😂
Imo prince is better since he's effectively a one man army that can do anything while Tycoon is basically worse than prince unless you stack him imo. Yeah you have higher damage and more crits but unless you are using the right passives and 4 tycoons the damage increase isn't better than Prince is as a general party member. If you are than he's definitely a demon. I'd say second only to prince but you could make a case for first. The best archetype line though because seeker sucks sewage water.
Thank you so much. I was struggling with trails of dragon second battle. So figured why not cheat the way the game cheats you by making the trails extra hard with no chance of countering except for cheese builds. So here i am. Lol. Just beat the shit out of him. It felt good.
I completely misunderstood how those passives worked for my entire first playthrough. I thought I needed to have multiple people equipped with the same passive to get the boost. I didn't know they had to have the same archetype equipped for it to work.
Same and I had everyone equip the "Front Row" boost cause I assumed it stacks. They should have done a better job with the descriptions of the skills tbh.
these same archetype passives are way too powerful as the datamine suggests, this kinda kills diversity but this video was useful to see how crazy same archetype teams really are
The damage you get depends on which weapon you use, which armor, which sub gear, which accessory, which skills you inherit, whether you have tycoon at rank 20, whether you have defense debuffs, whether you use mono tycoon team etc.
@@bainz Feel like I can do whatever the hell I want cause of the Sublime Spoon tbh. Wish Regicide was pickable from the get go, so there was at least a semblance of challenge. Have to see if it picks up tho.
@@Megidolaon999 In my blind first PT I never even knew sublime spoon exists. Only in NG+ I found it out. I dont understand why the devs allow this item to be used multiple times per turn. Its basically god mode if you have a few of these and they are easy to make too. I used 4 of these in NG+ on red dragon superboss and with prince +4 turns this dragon couldnt even attack once and just died. It was on regicide too.
@@haru2966 I prefer archetypes it’s so much easier being able to just port over the skills I want instead of needing to use a fusion calculator or skill cards
you get prince (fraud)
and tycoon (peak)
Honestly I think they are both the best Archetypes. Tycoon is insane for crits and damage as well as being more prevalent early on(merchant is also insanely broken especially when you get him) but Prince basically cheats with extra turns, resistance to everything, the ability to substitute ANY synthesis archetype, and Armageddon from persona 3.
I would love and appreciate a recommended build for each lineage's Royal Archetype.
Thank you for keeping up.
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You had my curiosity with the merchant video... Now you have my attention.
I honestly thought Tycoon was just kind of a grinding archetype for the longest time, but once I got the triple damage weapon I couldn't justify using anything else. Even without the setup you use here a single Tycoon makes the dragon trials a breeze.
I made the mistake of doing the trial of stars first, and Gold Rush carried me through, with everyone dead and only my tycoon remaining.
what is this weapon called?
@@arcnate Fortune God's Abacus, which is stolen during the final runner battle (sidequest to get it).
@@arcnateyou can get the abbacus by stealing it from jin (neutas last quest) if you're lucky you'll get 2 and then on the last dungeon skyshutter something you can steal as much as you want from the human monster voidblack homo something
I thought the same until I realized that I had MC in the backlines.
And then I found the double money damage weapon from the faker social bond mission.
This carried me through the game. It required a lot of setup, but was totally worth it. It is a glass cannon, but it is highly effective on damage. I do wish the game had more love for Magic builds (my OC was originally magic, so Strohl and Basilio were the damage dealers, OC and Heismay for De/Buffs). Thanks for the video!
For real man. I felt so bad having poured all my stats into Magic, but now I know better for future playthrus
Its not even a glass cannon, since you can run the tycoon squad from the backline and get bardon rank 4 bonuses, and full damage on gold rush. Its one of the best builds, pretty simple to run
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I didn't consider that. Great idea!
@@EGO.BReAKERR I beat the game on hard and the final boss at full strenght with a magic main. Sure, its not a cheese one shot build or something like that but a mage build definitely gets the job done. It just requires actually playing the game because you can get in trouble with some bosses. Everything is doable though so I dont regret playing mage during my first PT.
@@EldenLord. Yeah true any strategy is viable. I understood it after going back to a prior save and messing with the builds a little
Spire of Blind Faith brought me here, because oh WOW, I thought the Dragon Temple was a change in the difficulty curve...! Time to build up my tycoons and go HAM on this dragon. Thank you!
Yeah the moment I saw the merchant gold attack skill I was like Woah.....since it is almighty....it can ignore all element/repel etc....i was laughing 😂
Used your build and I tapped Louis 6 times before winning the last fight unscathed 😮💨
The best class in my opinion. 🧟
Imo prince is better since he's effectively a one man army that can do anything while Tycoon is basically worse than prince unless you stack him imo. Yeah you have higher damage and more crits but unless you are using the right passives and 4 tycoons the damage increase isn't better than Prince is as a general party member. If you are than he's definitely a demon. I'd say second only to prince but you could make a case for first. The best archetype line though because seeker sucks sewage water.
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I just stopped the video. Thank you so much for the warning. I will watch this for my ng+
Prominent stone nipples increase damage by 10%
Thank you so much. I was struggling with trails of dragon second battle. So figured why not cheat the way the game cheats you by making the trails extra hard with no chance of countering except for cheese builds. So here i am. Lol. Just beat the shit out of him. It felt good.
I completely misunderstood how those passives worked for my entire first playthrough. I thought I needed to have multiple people equipped with the same passive to get the boost. I didn't know they had to have the same archetype equipped for it to work.
Same and I had everyone equip the "Front Row" boost cause I assumed it stacks. They should have done a better job with the descriptions of the skills tbh.
Thanks now I regret not making my whole team just tycoon lol
Tycoon carried me in the end game. With all that money there was no issue spamming tycoon abilities and just one shooting everything.
Never I've seen the Merchant class being the best in a game.
it's not the best even
@@rail7646 What's better than this?
@@christophertran695 Tycooon trolololololol
Metaphor tychoontazioo
i personally would be interested in knowing about the other royal archetypes.
Tried beating the secret boss with a full tycoon team and it made the boss fairly easy
I would love a prince build and best companions
Hey curious on your royal archetype build
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I did Neuras' follower rank and did the quest but never got that weapon. What do I do?
It should have appeared after completing the quest. You can get a second one by using Steal on the target
these same archetype passives are way too powerful as the datamine suggests, this kinda kills diversity but this video was useful to see how crazy same archetype teams really are
Are the high numbers in the vid just because it is a weak enemy? I just tried and gold rush hit for 1000. Which is decent but not crazy
1000 is too low you must be using wrong passive and team. Also that high crit brcauae his hp wasn't full that axtivated the revenge seeker passive
The damage you get depends on which weapon you use, which armor, which sub gear, which accessory, which skills you inherit, whether you have tycoon at rank 20, whether you have defense debuffs, whether you use mono tycoon team etc.
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So many people were laughing at Luck Max builds and LOOK WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!!!
Still laughing. you dont need luck for tycoon crit for the most part, and taking a shit gives you plenty of luck anyway
Screw the rules, I have money!
5:28 I thought it was stackable, at least when I tested it.
bains fav persona/smt game?
How’s this build go against the super boss?
It one turns it
What happens to enemies that reflect physical attacks?
It’s Almighty
Do I dump all my points in strength? Imma assume no respec. One of these days Atlus!
No respec, and there is a way to get +1 luck every week without using time
@@Tony_409 So classic SMT route of all strength. Got it.
Yea Strength is the main stat here, after that Luck is good but you can get a good amount of it for free
@@bainz Feel like I can do whatever the hell I want cause of the Sublime Spoon tbh. Wish Regicide was pickable from the get go, so there was at least a semblance of challenge. Have to see if it picks up tho.
@@Megidolaon999 In my blind first PT I never even knew sublime spoon exists. Only in NG+ I found it out. I dont understand why the devs allow this item to be used multiple times per turn. Its basically god mode if you have a few of these and they are easy to make too. I used 4 of these in NG+ on red dragon superboss and with prince +4 turns this dragon couldnt even attack once and just died. It was on regicide too.
Will u make a samurai video?
Archetypes > personas
Nope. Persona has a lot of flexibility.
@@haru2966
I prefer archetypes it’s so much easier being able to just port over the skills I want instead of needing to use a fusion calculator or skill cards
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This seems too broken and unfun, I'd rather play the game normally
This IS normal Metaphor, so many busted builds
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