$100 Godox MS300 / MS200 First Look ( Flashpoint BLAZ 300 )
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The FLASHPOINT BLAZ 300 R2 MONOLIGHT ( Godox MS300 )is a 300-watt second manual monolight, designed to be compact non-TTL AC studio members of the R2 Family of wireless radio controlled flashes. The small units deliver GN 190ft / 58m, accepting standard Bowens S-Type reflectors and modifiers. The pro 150w quartz modeling light makes lighting setups easy to achieve precise results. The incredible amount of power and control in these compact and lightweight flashes, make this design the first choice of all photographers with an eye for flexible multiple lights set up in a studio or home environment for everything from portraiture toproduct photography without the fear of blowing circuits. The BLAZ 300 R2 Monolight has a max recycle times of 1.8 seconds at full power, and an eye-popping 0.1 seconds at 1/32nd/5.0 output, with reliability that only AC can guarantee.
R2 Wireless is the world famous 2.4GHz Radio system that binds the Flashpoint XPLOR600's ( Godox AD600 ), Streaklights ( Godox AD360II ), Zooms ( Godox V860II ) , eVOLV200's ( Godox AD200 ), Rapid's and Mini's, in total harmony. The incorporated R2 radio links to transmitter signals up to over a 100m/328ft range with 32 channels and up to 16 individual groups. Of course, youcan simply fire with a cable directly connected to the standard PC port.
This impressive BLAZ 300 Monolight professional specs' don't end with power and speed. Exacting digital details, with a full menu ofPower, Channel, Group, and Model Lamp status is boldly displayed on the rear graphical LCD panel. The onboard Manual controls are ina Tenth (0.1) of a stop increments and, depending on the R2 remote transmitter linked to the flash, at Tenth's, or 1/3 stop. Throughout the wide 50 step range, color and flash duration is spot on, with less than a 2% variation. AC power means there is no limit on modeling lamp use, with an adjustable 5-100% bright 150w quartz lamp. Both flashtube and modeling lamp is user replaceable.
This video takes a first look at the new Godox MS 300 / MS 200.
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I bought one of these. It was so good I've just bought a second. Basic. No frills. Does the job. And incredible value. You can't go wrong.
I bought 4 of these for my studio work for products and love them. My only issue is hate the heat of the modelling lamp and would rather companies use LEDs as modelling lamps in the future.
I found that using gels with this inside of a soft box is impossible because the strobe sticks out so far
I use this strobe for my photo booth now. Works great! Replaced the modeling bulb with a 100w equivalent led bulb. Almost no heat comming from the led bulb.
Could you tell us which bulb you used? Would help greatly
deep mystic they are a little smaller then regular lightbulbs, so they fit perfectly between the flash tube.
I thought LED bulbs were non-dimmable.... Aren't they?
@@dirtyweapon can you please post a link to the led lamp you bought? I bought one however they were non dimmable and had to return it
Femy The LED bulb I have on it is non-dimmable. I don’t need it to dim because I use it in my photobooth.
Awesome. I always like having some small lights. Over the years I've had some gigs where I show up to events (costume and such) and do photobooth style portraits. Not having to bring big and heavy lights is a must.
For the 'ratchety yoke' you can take it apart and sand down the bumps, it still works but much less ratchety.
I did this with my Bowens adapters for speedlites and AD200 and they're much easier to use once they're sanded down.
Glad it allows for the older R1 radio system because I've found the older 433MHz system to be rock solid, not so much with the R2 2.4GHz system.
Having 1/10th-stop power increments is inconvenient if you can't disable it (or at least switch to 1/3rd-stops) to move quickly to a new power setting.
Adorama calls it the BLAZ 300 because if you use it with the modeling lamp, It gets hot enough that you could fry eggs on it 😭🔥😂
I still have a scar on my arm from an incandescent modeling lamp
Godox: *Exist*
Profoto: *Sweating*
Xavier Ancarno LOL. Profoto doesn’t even acknowledge such low dollar beginner lights.
mavfan1 Are you joking? 🤣 Whatever YOU think of Godox lights, a huge range of professional photographers have opted for them for studio and location both, professionals who actually shoot for a living and make a full time income off of their photography. Previously this type of lighting equipment was practically curbed by Profoto and Elinchrom etc. Not anymore. YOU can continue paying a premium for lights with every feature imaginable, but 98% of even working professionals don't need the slight perks of investing in Profoto. Way more things to spend money on like backgrounds (painted and even printed canvas are EXPENSIVE) and set pieces and gel kits and educational content and even lenses (for people who shoot a lot on location).
With what Canon is doing, even camera bodies are entering a new phase of technology. I'd rather wait for the 150MP coming-2021 EOS R version than spend $2,500 on one Profoto strobe that requires a $400 trigger and $200-600 modifiers. And the more of us who invest in Godox, the higher quality their future budget strobe releases will become. The Flashpoint 600 Pro and upcoming 1200 Pro are huge advances and almost on-par with Profoto now that they have Color Mode. The only thing Profoto continues to truly win at is flash duration and Freeze Mode. But 99.9% of the time, nobody needs a Freeze Mode. Enjoy your massively diminishing returns. Even warranty is no huge perk to Profoto when you buy Godox through Adorama.
@@longliveclassicmusic Amen, friend. Profoto not only acknowledges Godox, they also fear them, as evident by all the lawsuits. If somebody thumbs their nose at the quality of Godox, then they literally don't have a clue about photography, and the value of good gear. Especially since Godox already put Bowens out of business with better strobes at cheaper prices. I was finished with Profoto when they announced those $500 triggers, that weren't at all special. Trust me, Profoto is quivering in their boots.
Wow. I just saw this particular flash used on the Fb Godox group. Then you mention a 'better one' Godox SK400II Studio Strobe. Now I got lost. You are great hard for me overseas to decide for my home connected kit. Thanks.
I was waiting for this one! Thanks a lot, Robert!
I bought one and found that my genuine Bowens modifiers would not fit. Loosening the three little screws on the front fixed that. There are two versions the 100v and the 240v versions. i have the 240v and it recycles a bit quicker than yours. I'm pretty impressed by it. I fired 50 full power pops in rapid succession and had no overheating problems.
Picked up a used set for $50 each. I don’t really need them, but they let me stop using my ad300’s in my home studio. Currently, I take them down every time so they are packed and ready to go for location shoots.
I love my 600 Pro and want the Flashpoint 1200 Pro super bad… That being said, in piecing together a studio, I need more quantity of lights, lights that also have modeling lamps. Period. AD 200 I have only has a modeling lamp with the fresnel head. I could get 5 of these for the cost of one QT-line professional Godox strobe. But the fact this can be adjusted in tenths of a stop both on the trigger and the back of the unit is huge for me. Would it be nice to have another strobe like the 600 Pro that has a color stability mode? Absolutely. Would it be nice to have a faster flash duration like with the 600? Totally.
But I mostly need numerous and similar strobes that can be adjusted super quickly and easily like with the knob that have solid modeling lamps, as I'm ready to ditch my speedlites completely. Investing in strobes like this would allow me to focus on more variety modifiers and gel kits and even more light stands with boom arms (I have one C stand so far to go with my only-vertical stands). Even stuff like fog in a can, a $109 pro-mist 1/4 filter, a scrim, Lastolite triflector, even a second pair of V Flat World v flats to go with my other two, canvas backgrounds, more seamless paper colors… The list is endless when building a studio. What I need most is more lights, and 300 Ws is NOT super limiting in the studio! It's honestly perfect since it's also smaller and lighter weight to boom or not worry about losing a ton of money is it falls and gets broken.
I personally also like the idea of having a variety of both battery strobes and AC strobes… That way I'm less concerned with running out of battery and having no lights but also have the flexibility of not having so many cables everywhere and being able to light on the go. Think this light is perfect for me to get a few of! 🤩
Is there enough space to replace the modeling lamp with an led bulb?
The flaw of these strobes is that high-speed flash sync goes up to 1/200. In specs they say it's 1/250 but that is a lie. Besides that it is a good buy for the money.
Yeah! I sometimes get black curtain even in 1/200! but in 1/160 everything is fine :/
Mehran Hadad
I had same problem but then I realized it’s cheap trigger issue. Since i aquired Godox X-pro I don’t have desync at 200 anymore. At least I didn’t noticed any problems in 1800 shoots I’ve done with 1/200 setup.
@@Marko-od7eb Yeah It might be because of the trigger! I'm using Godox X1 trigger , I don't think it's quality is bad 🤔 maybe the new X2 trigger would work better , I don't know 🤷♂️
It would be better to have protective glass for expense of 30$. Otherwise you'll pay that 30$ each time you brake the lamp. And it is prette possible with large modifiers.
And how quickly it overheats with pilot light and full flash power
What is the difference between this MS and the SK? I can only spot two things, this one does not auto discharge, but it goes to 1/32.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
2 years back I started off with zero photography knowledge and still love learning about photography
I have a small business online which sells various small products
I bought an all in 1 photo light box with 2 led strips going across the top.
But I absolutely hate it. Apart from the limitation of the size of the box, the LEDs above even with a diffuser are simply not bright enough and or too bright when using reflective surfaces as the subject
My plan is to get rid of the box.
Install 2 smaller table top LEDs on the sides with diffusers and have one of this pointing up towards some white reflector sheet
Any advice would be super helpful and thanks In advance
Does this sound like a better idea?
Hey,
Too many series... What about DPIII series ?
Yeah I wanna know more about the DPIII
I just realized this is gonna replace my elinchrom rx one :o !
Just ordered 2 from Adorama because of this video! Thanks Robert!
Enjoy
Reviews on Amazon that the modeling lamp gets too hot and melted the casing and might burn your house. Have Godox fixed the problem?
Can you dump this power from your trigger with the test button? Are you have to physically press this
Basically looks like a modern Paul C Buff B800 with a built in triggering system for 1/3 the price. Makes me wonder how Buff is going to survive much longer.
I don't know how they've made it this far. I guess on recommendations that are 5 years out of touch. They give great service (which further confuses me as to how they keep their doors open), but their tech is so outdated at this point.
I'm studying to see should I buy MS300 or SK400II...
Great job Rob! What is the GN because w/s confuse me. Thanks in advance.
What is the difference between the Godox MS300 versus the Godox SK300II Studio Strobe? I have various Godox products now, including the Godox X2T trigger, Godox AD200Pro, Godox V1, Godox 685. Therefore with those existing Godox products for my gear, is the MS300 or the SK300II better for me for compatibility? I just want to light one or two people and light small products too.
Only 220v ? does it work in 110v houses?
What's the flash duration?
Is there any power battery pack or powerbank for ms series to use for outdoor shoot?
How would it compare to Godox DP400III Studio Flash
I'd pick those up..
Great price.. if I had a studio to mess with it.
Or I may pick one up to use with my AD200.. I have a vagabond mini that would work fine with it..
2 light location set up.. plus I have a v860ii
I could go ham and have 3 lights lol
On location
Can I safely replace the modeling light bulb with a 250w for video use?
So.... I always have the random questions and I didn't see it in the description. Where do you get your BGM from?
Joedy Barnes I liked it too! Really catchy 😊
I use Epidemic Sounds for all of my BGM and occasional sound effects! I specifically search for slow paced hip hop or trap beats, just because they have a chill and slow pace for my delivery, and often come without vocals. Although, one thing I love about ES is even when I love a song but it has distracting vocals or melodies, you can use stems (aka tracks) to get rid of the distracting parts while maintaining the rest of the audio.
@@robhallphoto I really need to fly you down and talk a ton of business man. Consulting agreement, and maybe a seminar.
Thanks for the heads up! One question though I can't find anywhere else, is it fan cooled? :) Thanks as always Rob!
Yes, it has a quiet fan.
It's a good option to buy a pair for start in product photogaraphY?
I'm using 2 ms300 for product photography. Light modifiers are required... also it doesn't come with the reflector that appear on the box
why does MS300 comes with 150W light bulb ?
What is T1 for this light? Considering the price probably a pretty slow pulse?
Hi, is there a specific reason why the modelling lamp is rather warm in color, but the flash rather cool?
Don't know if there's a specific reason other than it was always warm incandescent bulbs in the past, so unless it's an LED modeling lamp, nowadays it's still the same.
Question, I’m shooting indoor surf photography at a wave pool that does not have good lighting. Looking for a strobe that I can shoot 1/1250 F5.6 on without raising ISO too high. Would this be a good option?
No, get either AD200Pro or AD400Pro with the Godox XPro trigger to run them. You definitely need OCF for something you’re trying to do man. Hope that helps!
How is the color temp accuracy does it have the similar pro consistency as the AD Pro line?
The color accuracy was addressed in the video.
can i mount godox sa p spotlight attachment on this?
So it works only by electricity? And we can`t use it outdoors?
There is no internal battery, you could use an external battery power source if you wanted but at that point a battery unit would make more sense.
HEY, SUPER PRO VIDEO. TY. CAN YOU PLEASE RECOMMEND ME AMY Flashpoint BUDGET PRODUCT THAT WILL DO THE JOB FOR SHOOTING MATTRESSES CATALOG?
Helpful! But I have a question - If the flash power is not "dumped", will still trigger the flash at full-power (even if set at 1/2 power), or will it simply refuse to fire at all?
It fires whatever the previous power was at but slowly decays as well.
What I really do not get is, why on earth didn't they integrate a usable umbrella hole/holder. The one that is implemented does not have a screw to secure it. It is just a hole with an internal kind of bracket. This might work for small umbrellas. But it does not with a huge umbrella, especially when the umbrella is pointed down from a boom.
Same mistake Godox made with the S2 bracket. While the S1 has a screw, the newer S2 (which I bought for my ad200) doesn't. Fail...
The purpose of the spring umbrella holder is so when an umbrella gets blown it slides out rather than tipping the stand over. Same as the pro series of location-based lighting equipment
@@robhallphoto thanks Robert, didn't know that! But how do you secure the umbrella against slipping out or moving?
RH-did you ever get the MS300/Blaz300 for your own use? i am very tempted to add to my AD200Pro and AD300 lights and use the MS300/Blaz300 in my studio.
Yes. We have 3 of them in studio. I have two affixed to the steel beams in my studio as centered background lights so we have one less thing to boom when shooting on seamless. The third one just sits on the shelf as a backup.
Why do people claim there’s no HSS on these? They can do 1/2000 and your camera has to be in the HSS mode to get to that level.
They don't have HSS. You might be confusing a flash duration for HSS.
the modeling lamp is too long for my soft box ( 10x24 glow) what can i do ?. it wont lock into the bowens mout because the modeling lamp will knock into the plate inside
Take out the modeling lamp.
Looks about the same size as my Elinchrom RX4's which were more than double the price.
Your RX4's are 400's these are 300ws - Elinchrom has more sustainability long term - and more accessories with no compromise - these are cheaply made - you can't beat Elinchrom for versatility but you can be cheaper or more expensive - I have been pro for 30 yrs and tried them all - Bronocolour is the dogs wotsits and for the price it is excellent but you need crew on every shoot as the stuff is industrial heavy as it is expensive - looks to me like Profoto have been subject to industrial espionage - first their A1 Air Flashgun and now this strobe - small European company vs the might of China....And lastly I did a review on these with a Phase One just for fun and the quality of light is inconsistent between flashes - poor overall - HOWEVER - they are cheap and attract photographers to get on the 'studio' ladder - so that's a big ++
@nelsonclub7722
Elinchrom is assembled in India with Swiss design. Most of their flash heads are now plastic made just like this Godox. Elinchrom power capacitors are made in India. Nearly all of their electronic components are sourced from China. Except the flash tubes, which are mainly from France. Their power capacitors are just as likely to pop or go faulty like any other brand capacitors. Especially when these capacitors are under stress, cranking up the power levels to maximum (most photographers do that) creates massive stress on any capacitor, it doesn't matter where capacitors are made. The old style Classic Elinchrom flash heads, with the metal casing, like the El-500, El- 250, and the Prolinca range were more robust and longer lasting than any other models.
Do you prefer the sk300ii or ds300?
Would I be able to use the beauty dish with this modeling light?
That's probably specific to the beauty dish.
Looking at the specs it appears to be an upgrade(smaller body/faster recycle) from the older and similarly priced Flashpoint Studio 300. I've had no problems with my Studio 300's, but if they do decide to die I'd probably pick one of these up as a replacement simply for the smaller size.
2:09 all the time 😭
8200 hahahahahahahahhaha
Thank you for the vid! Does 'dumping' power frequently reduce the life of the Xenon flash tube? Is the flash tube replaceable?
No, with most strobe lights you will need to dump the power. Mainly with older strobes you have to do this but some of the more budget friendly new strobes still require it. :D hope this helps
Yes the replacement flash tubes are about $20.
Thanks for the very useful review. One quick question: is it normal that my X1T-F trigger does not trigger this light when, on my X-T2, I go over 1/250 shutter speed (ex: the MS300 does not trigger when I go to 1/500 on my camera)., If someone could answer, it would be much appreciated. Thank you!
As Robert said in the video, also in the manual, this is NOT à HSS flash. It's normal you can't go over your synchro speed.
@@totiglobule thanks for your reply. I do understand that this is not HSS, however I would expect the flash to fire - and for me to see a black band (curtain showing up) in the photos. I was simply curious (technically) if it is ok that the shutter does not trigger the light at all (although the photo is, of course, taken).
@@bogdangheorghiu1978 I do understand what you're trying, with a black part. I didn't try with this flash (to me it's not intresting because it rely on "chance" only), but remember it's a cheap one, I'd not be surprise it doesn't fire ... I know it's working with ad-series (200, 400..), V1 etc, but have to try with the MS300. Next time I use it.
what the max shutter speed it can use without giving the black band?
Excellent review, thanks. Robert, does the MS300 have a cooling fan built in?
how is the power output in comparison to the ad 200?
200w vs 300
Does this allow you camera to go past 350 since it doesn't support HSS
350? Try again.
Hi! yCan you tell how much the flash weighs without everything?
1244g without modelling lamp, cables and with the bare flash tube only (no ref, no cover)
Does these lights flash? I’m looking for a flashing light for videography
Yes...it’s a flash. No, it’s not intended to be a strobing light source. In fact, it’s short flash duration will make its flashes only partially visible in a frame of video. You should look for an LED with a strobe effect.
@@robhallphoto like the ad200?
Great review, not a bad price for someone to get started
they could have included the 7in refelctor......
Why don't the put in a led modeling Light? 🤷🏼♂️
Jinbei has it in it's cheap lights..
Led modeling lights are really only usable in lower light, and even then they are underpowered compared to incandescent. The 60w Godox SL-60 LED constant light is only slightly brighter than the 150w incandescent bulb in these units and with electronics/cooling the the complete LED light is as large as a typical monolight. A usable LED modeling light in a monolight is possible, but it would need to be pretty damned big.
Really no hhs and non TTL ???
Ya this broke my heart - can't have studio strobes without HSS at least
Its $100.....
@@MarkOhanesian why in the world would you use HSS in the studio? Or did I miss a sarcastic post?
@@vegaryfoss179 hss for taking high shutter speed photos with artificial lighting, There are so many reasons why. You want HSS for stopping fast motion like a dancer or even a bunch of kids running around, capturing things like water droplets, etc. Typically strobes can be used in a maximum shutter speed of 1/200 of a second which is pretty limiting.
Is it more powerful than an AD200 pro?
GODOX AD-S65S SOFTBOX Support this Flash????????
no.
I bought one. It's aight. 👍
cosmogang it’s “alright” or it’s “a light”?
@@mavfan1 neither, it's "aight"
(I kid, I kid)
How about a video on Westcott FJ400
I might do a video on the Jinbei HD 400 Pro.
I'm still waiting for Westcott to admit they aren't the manufacturers though.
@@robhallphoto damn WTH Westcott.. looks like Jinbei 400 exists from a year ago
When I heard there was no HSS and no full power, I was out. Smh
no full power?!
does it support HSS?
No
Anyone use it with a beauty dish?
It's a barebulb strobe. It's gonna perform like any barebulb strobe does in a beauty dish.
Hi Robert. I am new to flash/strobe lighting. Can you trigger a Godox strobe like this one with the pocket Wizard triggers? Does that make any sense? I have PocketWizard system already for my Nikon flash. Thanks.
You can, but it seriously reduces the efficiency of the system, as you won't have remote power control. I guess if you're forced to merge the two systems its an option, but by far the biggest perk of Godox X series is using 1 trigger to remotely control it all. So if you were looking to outfit a studio with these while keeping your Nikon stuff for location work, then I would still opt to buy one godox X series transmitter (X1T-N, X2T-N, X-Pro N)
Robert Hall Photography Thank you for your kind advice Robert. I shall definitely consider migrating to Godox all the way; sounds like a great system. Thank you!
Haha like this one
For the so-maniest time: 300 Ws is not 300 W. Don't try to make the world stupid. With 1/800 longest flash, these are 240,000 Watt as W=Ws/s
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