Westcott FJ400 Vs Godox AD400 Pro, The New Best Value Strobe
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
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In this video Lee Morris compares the new Westcott FJ400 to the Godox AD400 Pro.
In many ways both lights are almost identical but when we look closer you can see a few small differences. The Godox is a little smaller, has slightly more refined build quality, and a slightly brighter modeling light. The FJ400 has better battery performance, the remote can work with every camera brand, it has a year warranty and a direct customer service line, and is $80 cheaper.
Both lights are absolutely amazing for the money but if you're looking for the absolute best value for the money, the FJ400 is the new king.
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I’ll buy this if it works with Godox triggers like some of the other brands. If Wescott wants to shake up the market they need to be easily adopted.
Looks like a rebrand of Jinbei products, so the answer is probably no. However, I have heard of people getting dual hotshoe adapters and running Godox and Jinbei/Orlit stuff together (you have to have both triggers on your camera)
I highly doubt that would work on my a7r3 and that damn hot shoe anyway.
I just picked up a new Godox AD400pro from BH Photo for $549! Great light!
This is a great step for Westcott. They just need to back it up now with a full line of products that photographers can use. I’m sure a lot of people have a godox V1, AD200 and 400pro kit that covers them in all scenarios. I can’t imagine getting into this system to shoot events and having three of these to manage
Purchased the Godox AD400 and XPro trigger last week. I like the build quality. Came with a 1yr limited warranty. My shop gave me a bit of a discount. I went for the 400 over the 600 because I wanted the smaller size and weight. It’s still 8lbs with a 36” EZLock Glow Octabox which I wouldn’t call light. If I run into situations where I think a full charge won’t be sufficient I’ll get another battery.
They nailed the trigger and charge+flash. Have to see where their product line goes. I do like the Godox/FP PL breadth.
I just got two Flashpoint 400 Pro (Godox AD400 Pro) lights from Adorama for their Black Friday sale for $418 each. Could NOT pass them up. And while I agree the screens aren't the most attractive they get the job done. Two of these will suit my needs for many years to come!
i think that this is just a rebranded "Jinbei HD-400" which is great strobe
It's a rebranded Jinbei HD-400 Pro which is an even better strobe than the HD-400. :)
Funny how he calls Wescott the Manufacturer then. It means they are just the distributor.
@@Firebrand911 Yup. This is just a rebranded light and F-stopper doesn't seem to do much research these days
@@dacostarik Why I *always* read the comments....
If it’s a rebranded Jinbei then why is it made better than their own light. With biggest difference being recycle times.
The remote does not work with "any camera brand". Pentax and Sigma are not supported. Cactus released a multi-brand trigger (supporting TTL across brands) that supports all brands that the Westcott (Jinbei) trigger supports plus Pentax and Sigma.
These look like rebrands of the Jinbei HD400 (strobe) and recently-released TR-Q7 (trigger). Not sure how they got the recycle time down to under 1s, so there might be a few differences. Adorama sells quite a bit of Jinbei stuff under the Orlit brand. I have the Orlit version of this light and have liked it well enough. I'd be interested to know if the wireless system on this Westcott branded product is interoperable with all the other Jinbei stuff (just like the Godox/Wistro/Flashpoint stuff all works with the R2 trigger regardless of what particular brand name is on the light you're using).
You realise that the Westcott flash you're talking about is just a Jinbei, right?
Yes on the price but here’s a Godox with all kinds of accessories for Godox AD600BM 600Ws GN87 HSS Flash Strobe Monolight with 8700mAh Battery, 600W Portable Lamp Flash Head, 23"X23" Flash Softbox, 7" Standard Reflector, 7" Flash Diffuser and Portable Flash Bag
If warranty concerns are an issue for ppl considering Godox they need to look at Adorama’s Flashpoint line which is simply rebranded Godox gear with US warranty support. BTW it’s 2-years for their equivalent XPLOR 400Pro
If you're Canadian, look for StrobePro. They are our Godox rebrand with 2 year warranty support.
What about the performance, the quality of the light? Otherwise on paper it looks good. And the trigger is the best ever!
I had the same questions. Did you get any update anywhere else?
Is the Westcott FJ400 identical with the Jinbei HD400 or the Rollei Freeze 4?
Westcott is just a copycat rebrand of other products.
That Westscott is actually a Jinbei rebrand flash system.
godox AD 400 pro is only around $400 while westcott FJ400 is almost $1K
If this light responded to the Godox triggers I'd be sold lol
RJM Pictures exactly. No reason to pay 570 for the light and still pay 100 for the trigger
Westcott now has lithium ion receiver , $25 USD, to use with 3rd party strobes. I'm torn between getting the FJ400 or AD400pro and some speed lights to match with, using that receiver or just get ALL Godox..
Fstoppers just want profoto sales to go up. Keeps hating godox again and again. Lost credibility.
Seems to be a rebranded Orlit Rovelight RT 400 / Jinbei HD-400. The Orlit version is only $399 right now for those trying to save money. You will have Adorama's 2 year customer service and warranty. I still like the whole Godox system better right now but for those on a budget this is a great option. Great overview.
Nice Jinbei, errr Westcott.
I think the biggest selling point is the trigger. But you know Adorama will meet that price. I image the ad400 is smaller and lighter. Then again I can get the ad600 with extension head and case for about $600.
Bro those strobe are just rebranded Jinbei HD400 same for the trigger.
You sold me
At usa made with 1yr warranty and usa tech support I'm ordering mine soon
Ok this does a decent job of competing with the AD400 Pro. That's nice...I guess...but the Godox light doesn't exist in a vacuum. Godox gear is compelling because it's a full suite of lighting equipment that covers nearly every lighting need you can think of...and it all works together. Literally the only other company with a similar system is Profoto for significantly more money.
Orlit and jinbei had this light already for more than a year. They just ddnt invest in adverts and marketing. I use the orlit 610HD that i bought for $300 via Adorama. Instead of spending huge on The godox 600pros. It worked so well that i got 3 more .
april 2020. what do you think now? anything new to look at or go with the fj400 orad400 pro? what about the ad600?? I'm about to shell out some $$ on a good mono light that can be versatile in studio as well as out doors
Curious to see if Westcott keeps up with this or drops it like they did with the "Stroblite" series. Will they continue to develop (with the help of Jinbei) an eco system or will it stop here with the three lights, FJ200, FJ80 and FJ400? Godox continues to strive to compete with Elinchrom/ Broncolor/ and Profoto and they're doing a damn fine job from what I can tell. If you want a U.S. warranty, buy the Adorama "Flashpoint" brand. Problem solved.
BUT and this is a large BUT - If anything breaks with a Godox you have to send the unit to China to be fixed. That's not cool and I won't buy Godox because of that.
@@davidpalermo4695 So, like I mentioned above, buy the flashpoint branded version. You get a warranty and you can buy extra protection from Adorama. They're a pretty large retailer and they back up their products pretty well. I don't think you'll have an issue in that regard. Buying the Godox brand, I can agree that warranty issues could present a problem. I'm not sure how Westcott will deal with issues regarding these lights as they are made by Jinbei, a Chinese company. Will they have a repair facility in the states? Probably, but so does Adorama with the Flashpoint brand. I guess it all boils down to a comfort level. I've used the Westcott lights and didn't care for the way they triggered. In my experience, they didn't hold up to the hype regarding the trigger. A lot of times the flash would be way to hot and other times not enough all while not changing any settings and giving ample time between shots. The conversion from TTL to manual was inaccurate as well. However, when everything was firing on all cylinders, it produced nice light like anything else. I'll also concede that the issues I experienced could have been user error but it was enough for me not to buy into the system and to keep my Flashpoint gear. What I have learned form owning or renting several different light systems from Buff to Elinchrom to godox/flashpoint is it's all the same if you know how to use it. I've had similar results with all of the systems.
Godox is a slouch. Westcott walks all over it. Godox is king of failure to fire!
@@MrDan1509 your opinion. I've used both and had plenty of "failures to fire" with the westcott. Not only that, the power was incredibly inconsistent. Maybe they have addressed these issues but, I had enough problems that I decided to go with Flashpoint instead. No system is perfect and all have misfires here and there. I've had really good success with Flashpoint (Godox) and have no complaints for the price point.
@@toddstrong1353 I think, James Quantz Jr. proved in the video " Westcott FJ400 vs Godox AD400 from a Profoto User" proves the Westcott is the better of the bunch!
I got your course and love you! Thank you!!
I love that the Strobe power value screen is like that of Profoto. It's just so elegant looking and easier than fractions. I hate fractions
Thanks to this video I already opened my adorama account and bought the Godox AD400 Pro!...I just needed a push to make the right decision!!
How has the Ad400 performed for you? I know at Adorama, its called the Flashpoint.
@@marbelrivera8042 I got the Ad400 from Adorama during black Friday last November and the battery stopped working 9 months later. It is under warranty but I'll have to pay for shipping and insurance to send it back for repair.
Orlit and Jinbei made this light a little over a year ago... 🤷🏿♂️
Eugene Photo Video do you have either light? If not have you used it and what are your thoughts?
I would love to see a trigger that is like a pocket wizard, but can utilize multiple brands of strobes simultaneously.
Great video, btw.
Can I use the Elinchrom mount accessories like reflectors, softboxes, beauty dishes etc with Westcott FJ 200/400 ? How ? Please reply 🙏
1 fj400 is around 700 -800$ nowadays. I can get 2 godox ad400ii with stands soft boxes and adapters for 276$.
More like $599 but nice try tho!
I have had this light now for a while as the ORlit 400 and I also have the orlit rt-610 these lights are no joke! they work well. My only complaint has been the triggers can sometimes be a pain! But if your a Canon shooter and have Canon RT flashes and controllers then this light is for you! It adds so freaking much to that system.
I got a flashpoint ad400 pro kit with 36inch beauty dish and c-stand for $585. That’s beats this strobe by almost $300 and with a c-stand. Think I’ll stick with my 400pro not saying it’s a better light but it was much cheaper.
Godox trigger works with speedlight, strobe. That is really one of the best selling point.
Man I want one but I won't use it that much right now. I'm just getting into studio work at home
Can this strobe get triggered by a Sekonic light meter? I rely on my light meter for perfect exposure. Thanks
Hmmm, minimum power v Godox was missing. My understanding is that it’s 1/32
Hating on the Godox again!
HAHAHA!!! Yep
So another thinly veiled paid advert.... What a surprise....
Wescott and affordable are words that usually don't mix well together... Oh boy!
So...as of today, B&H has the Godox AD400pro on SALE for $549 USD! I'm having a hard time choosing between the Westcott or the AD400 as I'm rebuilding my light rig from scratch. a few months ago I was easily leaning towards Westcott, mostly due to where it's made and price. I do want to be able to link a main 400w Mono Light w/ at least one speed light, or mono light, maybe two. Would the Westcott send a radio signal to other brands? I think westcott now has a 25$ Lithium Ion receiver to work with 3rd party strobes, but that's one more thing to charge up to use each time. one more thing to buy per extra light.
Adorama is more of a friend to ATG.
They purchased three products and have them under Flashpoint, Jenbei, Orlit
A better one made for the pros, ATG has it in Nissin MG10 Set.
This can do more than 400ws TTL/M light.
For professionals that are not on the freelist, it costs less than $1,000.00.
wonder why Hasselblad and Pentax (brands I shoot with) were not included in the "universal" remote?
The Westcott FJ400 is identical with the Jinbei HD400 PRO, isn't it really just a rebranded Jinbei?
The Profoto cannot compete in power. If you cannot measure that you have no business talking about these products. You are correct that Godox offers no support whatsoever which is why one should by the Flashpoint-rebranded versions from Adorama or from another reputable Godox reseller. Then you get the same warranty.
Ok so this is not new. It's an orlit rovelight rt 400 which is just a rebranded Jinbei.
Jinbei HD400 (Adorama) Orlit RT400 and Wescott FJ400 all look similiar. The Orlit RT400 version (by Adorama0, was recently cut. Im wondering if they share the same battery....?
It's originally and rebranded Chinese JINBEI HD-400
Just another Chinese rebrand. Looks nice though. But I will stay with my Buff lights. Since day one (some 35 years ago or so) you could always call them in Nashville, a real nice person always answers. Service is the best I have ever seen. And never that costly too repair. And back in your hands quickly. I'll take a trusted company over all these new players any day. By the way, my Buff units, after 17 years have had very little problems. Most have had none at all. And they get some pretty heavy duty use on a consistent bases.
Wescott is a great company. Great modifiers. But THEY don't make these lights. Just sayin'.
@@darrylpanchyson9678 so you say, Westcott did develop that light and then only accidentally made it look like the twin of the Jinbei HD400 Pro, down to the menu design?
www.teamdigital.com.au/2019/07/announcing-the-new-jinbei-hd400-pro/
What a coindicence, I must say!
even more when looking at the Westcott trigger that - by accident again, I'm sure - looks exactly like the new Jinbei TRQ-7
www.teamdigital.com.au/2019/07/the-super-trigger-jinbei-trq-7/
@@Mariosch26 he lied to meeeeeee
I owned an Adorama Orlit RT 400 for a while which is the prior version of this Wescott rebranded Jinbei HD-400 Pro. I bought the light on impulse as Adorama was selling them for an insanely low $199 at the time. Gotta say, it was an excellent light. I only sold it because of the inconvenience of trying to integrate it into my extensive Godox system. It appears that Adorama may be backing away from their Orlit series in favor of their Godox rebrands.
Does the material that it's made of get sticky?
also you can find it as Jinbei HD-400 TTL, is the exactly product with different name (may be in european market are jinbei)
It's the HD400Pro
I wanted to go with Westcott but I don’t trust their TTL and HSS with Sony cameras so I bought AD400 kit that includes soft box and stand for $650 not including trigger
Don't they just brand it as theirs?
I will stay with Godox. Plan to buy two ad200 pros
Notice the title doesn't have ATG/Jinbei HD-400Pro VS ATG/Westcott FJ400 VS ATG/Rollei VS ATG/Orlit.
ATG first versions are for amateurs & serious amateurs.
ATG Pro are improvement for semi pros to professionals that are not under freelist, meaning they have to buy.
Major buyers in USA sell under their names /or in Godox, Flashpoint, Orlit, Rollei, Westcott, Profoto, Interfit, Neewer
Do you didn't think camera like car companies make their own equipment & parts?
And all reviewer are never being paid, right?
I already have 2 Godox AD200 Pro flashes. With the new trigger can I remotely control 2 Westcott FJ400 flashes and 2 Goddox flashes?
Thanks!
Hi, yes (with an adapter sold by Westcott about $20 USD each) I currently have an FJ400 that works great and I can trigger my AD200 with the only setback of not being able to change the power output on it. So far i love my FJ400
Whats their beef with Godox?
Only until late have I noticed, you lean to pro photo and you have been hating on Godox... wow.
It's because Profoto gave him a bunch of gear and flew fstoppers out to Hawaii to play with the B10
Menu LCD looks like Orlit or Jinbei.
will the trigger fire the Leica M hight speed sync?
Not the first Orlit already has a trigger that works with lots of cameras
Matthew Cameron hows the orlit? Works well?
This strobe is only good if you have multiple cameras in your house that’s pretty much it. The strobe is 570 and you still have to pay 100 for the trigger. Most people are already fully invested in godox or flashpoint so you might as well get the godox400 for the same price still. There is no advantage. The only way to outsell godox is price and advantage
Wait wasn't your profoto vs godox highly pro profoto?
That video was made shortly after Profoto flew him out to Hawaii for a release announcement.
@@jba6677 I know it was biased as hell. Such is the youtube game now.
Correct me if iam wrong but doesn't this look similar if not exactly like Photoquip ProBlitz DC400. (Photoquip is a sister concern of elinchrom in India)
Correct! These are all Godox made lights
$668 for the Westcott and their remote ($688 if you're on Sony).
$718 for the Godox/Flashpoint and their best remote.
1 year warranty for the Westcott.
2 year warranty on the Flashpoint through Adorama in the U.S. (don't buy the Godox)- with a person on a phone to talk to Lee.
No system (yet) with the Westcott.
And... that's where Westcott lost me. If I were planning on buying only one light or at least one type of light then the Westcott might be the way to go. But the lack of the rather large system on Godox/Flashpoint side now makes that $50 extra expense an easy choice between these two.
I really like Westcott and their products typically are great quality so I hope they keep pushing in this segment of the market. The competition should help all of us.
But for now, I'll stick with my Xplor600's and Evolv200's, and X R2, and etc., etc...
I am planning on buying a flashpoint xplor 400. Can you pls lead me to correct direction for trigger?
It's been a year .. are we going to see something similar AD300 Pro?
were I can buy the adaptor for sony
Thank you Wescott!!
How does this stand up against the neewer i6t xm 600?
Wouldn't surprise me if Westcott is taking a loss on the FJ400 to get people into their systems for the 80/200 and accessories. Kind of like Xbox.
"USA name brand where u can call and get a person in the other end". This alone has sold me with all the other pros.
USA name brand selling Chinese made products*
YOU SHOULDVE COMPARED WEATHER SEALING. Please hold these "outdoor" strobe companies accountable for light snow moisture/light rain. Its time for the market to shift to weather sealing.
Right?! I went to Mexico and shot a wedding and the lights and camera couldn't handle the humidity!
What would you buy for dogs photos AD200 Pro or AD400 Pro? :)
You forget to shoot with it.
What's the difference in Recycle Time between both?
Almost identical
This light is originally Jinbei HD-400 and its in the market nearly for a year. You can buy both brands, its good quality. www.protog.com.au/hd-400-ttl-battery-monolight/JBHD400
Thank you! This is positive comment that is helpful. I am looking to see which brand to invest in. Any preference?
@@marbelrivera8042 get Godox AD600 or 400
Can you use this westcott Fj400 simultaneously along with the ad200 with one trigger?
Will the Wescott remote control Yongnuo speedlites?
Where's the comparison you used to name this strobe "the new best value strobe"? I don't understand a comparison with out the comparison part 🤷🏻♀️ when it comes to photography I think photos speak lauder than just words.. Just saying
Only a $60 difference between the two now.
It’s almost cheaper than their Eyelighter.....
lmao
Lol almost. Cause mine was high asf
Oh hey, another Fstoppers "review." I wonder what they got wrong in this one?
Except Westcott didn't make it, that's a Jinbei product, only re branded, much like Adorama does with the Godox one.
I just want my godox to work with it :(
How does FJ400 handle overpowering the sun compared to Godox SD400?
Recycle time?
can't help but think Westcott paid more than a couple shekels for that review
Careful doing business with a company that just deleted all their negative comments from UA-cam. I have been doing research on this strobe since it's introduction and when I went back to read the comments again on the Westcott launch video, most of them were gone. Just for that reason, I'll stick with Godox. But great feedback here. Thanks FStoppers for keeping it real.
lol why the hell would you be using a modeling light for video?
GuyFox people use them for video lights. Some modeling lights are powerful enough to do this.
Tilt on remote is BIG actually. Also, I didn't even know there was a AD400. Been using AD360 and AD600 Godox. SO far in 2 years I have had a Flashpoint version of the Godox fail with the battery. Flashpoint was even bad to deal with from that issue. I didn't know I can charge and shoot the AD600 . It would be great that plugged in it would switch to AC wall power vs a dapater that's $150. I wonder how it will work using 2 camera brands in the same shoot...As now the Godox will switch from a Sony to Canon with the swap of the trigger. Westcott likely made it easier, one hopes. Also, Westcott does make some great modifiers, and SURELY you say this is a USA brand the strobe is of course made in.......China.
Westcott may be a name brand but a cheap one at that. I bought some modifiers years ago and they all felt cheap then broke on me in a short time with light use. I know it's about money but you are also paying what you get in photography. Just bought some Elinchrom lights and modifiers and out of the box, it's high quality.
Cancel the subscription due to misleading photographers, I almost follow their suggestions to buy a Profoto light
Same light at the Orlit 400... for a little more money.
Not quite the same. The Orlit is a rebadged Jinbei HD400, this is a rebadged HD400Pro.
Johnathan Aulabaugh hows the orlit? I want a 400 watts light... westcott, orlit or godox
@@Crewonephotography are you sure about this? They are the same body with pretty marginal differences. Plus we all know westcott likes to jack the prices a bit because they are westcott.
@@NetoVelasco i run the 610. Its pretty good with a couple things that tick me off, primarily with the trq6 trigger though. The 610 is more consistent light output than the godox.
@@JohnathanAulabaugh The Orlit is the original Jinbei HD400. This "new" light is the HD400Pro. I'd say Westcott has done a deal and that is why Adorama have not got the updated version.
Here is Australia Jinbei stuff is quite common with a number of the bigger outlets selling it. I don't think anyone actually sells Jinbei in the USA?
Oh it’s like orlit and jinbeh I used this before honestly not bad
Good stuff 👍🏾
Come on F-stoppers you know this is a paid advert. Most of the comments below know that this is just a rebranded version of Jinbei HD-400. There's nothing much innovative about what wescott has sent to you for review. I would have rather your team perform some real world test and results to show us the pros and cons. If I wanted to see the product I would've headed down to B&H or Adorama or a distributor to do exactly what you're doing now. Compare 3 different lights.
Great video nice
This is a great non bias review