Yeah this local towns women being the killers, not buying it at all. Annie is the one that they awoke with their experiments...and the notes written about her "I can hear her fingers moving, "I can hear her outside" all the disturbing notes Jodie Foster is reading that the scientist wrote that was with Annie along with the core samples page, and the description of her eyes...they did something and it backfires, witchcraft and ice lore are afoot, again not buying the women killed the scientists.... it's way deeper and horrifying than that.
yeah that drawing was of Sedna goddess of the sea. Cast into the water by her father to appease the ocean, her fingers clung to the side of his boat until he cut them off. She is the vengeful goddess of the sea and underworld that determines whether or not a season will be bountiful.
I believe that the supernatural elements are connected to the contaminated water. The characters consistently discuss the presence of tainted water, suggesting that it is responsible for their eerie experiences. Consequently, the poisoned water appears to be affecting their mental state.
@@___Somebody___ agreed! This is exactly why I liked S1 so much, the whole time it was so grounded and yet "otherworldly" at the same. The tension in the paradox is a key thing that made it so compelling
Oh this is goodddddd!! I’m on board with this theory. I hope we get more Tuttle talk. I’d like a deeper connection between this season and the yellow king.
@@TheorySmackbro If they just tease us with how the tuttles have the funds to hire crazy amounts of scientists to do tests in this secret arctic lab and how it connects to carcosa yellowing cult stuff and instead just solves a native woman’s murder while making it a fully woke show I’m gonna be furious lol.
Me too! I’m hoping the story will build off of some of following quotes from Lovecraft stories: "They worshipped, so they said, the Great Old Ones who lived ages before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky. Those Old Ones were gone now, inside the earth and under the sea; but their dead bodies had told their secrets in dreams to the first men, who formed a cult which had never died . . . 🌀This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu (but may a siren instead) from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway." “In our quest for scientific advancement, we risk awakening forces that should have remained dormant.” “The ancient ones lie dreaming beneath the ice, their influence seeping into the minds of those unfortunate enough to stumble upon their secrets.” And they show tunnels in the preview, so maybe this: “Would to Heaven we had never approached them at all, but had run back at top speed out of that blasphemous tunnel with the greasily smooth floors and the degenerate murals aping and mocking the things they had superseded-run back, before we had seen what we did see, and before our minds were burned with something which will never let us breathe easily again!”🤞🙏🤞
I for one am loving this season. My brother, flatmate and I spend many hours trying to figure out what's going on. I am also on board with this theory and would never have picked it up but for encountering this video. I wonder, also, that due to the secretive behaviour of the Tsalal scientists, they have some kind of lab under the ice that requires a lot of energy - hence the blackouts. In the season trailer, we see a chase scene where one scientist is trying to get away through a network of tunnels in the ice. Who knows?
This is really interesting. I wonder if the crab processing facility has some kind of machinery that they could have used when putting them out there. Maybe they killed the men and froze them in a crab fridge before bringing them out to the ice and blasting them with water for cleaning the crabs. They did say they reversed the roles of men and women so it makes sense if the ladies are the heroes and the murders.
I think this is the best theory yet. They only showed the cleaning lady once BUT they keep going back to the guy who allegedly assaulted her. Dude's been in just about every episode so far.
I also believe that the reference to the Tuttles and even the Carcosa stuff is either misdirection or just trivial details in the grand scheme of the larger conspiracy... I have a theory that all the Carcosa/Yellow King imagery was stuff that was ALREADY in the trailer that Clark and Anne K banged in. Because it used to be Rust Cohle's trailer and, like his storage unit in Louisiana, he covered the walls with "The Sprawl" as he obsessed over the case
The spirals spinning in opposite directions calls out the North and south magnetic fields of the earth. Season 1 being in the south hemisphere and Alaska in the north for season 4. The “portals” have always been an aspect of Corcosa and this likely ties together with the research at tsalal and the never ending drawing of two circles at earths core with emanating electrical field lines. The mine clearly will play into this later as it’s drawing from something deep within the earth.
Doors always look different on the other side. So if it is a portal reference it would be the opposite direction looking back from where you came from. Anyway, just a thought.
I have a theory on the spiral. I think that in the first season, the show writers were alluding to the fact that you needed to look further and further outward to find the killer. In other words, the mysteries grew further and further from the center of the storythis season I think it’s the opposite direction you need to look closer and closer. And I think the theory that you have produced about the hairnets and all that situation are spot on with what’s already happening.
If you look at the drawing the kid makes in episode 1, the right hand has the ring and pinky finger cut off and they’re bleeding. When you compare it to how he draws the other hand the fingers are definitely different. The old native woman seems to be in on it. In the opening crab processing center scene she covers for how those two fingers got cut off.
@@TheorySmack look up “Sedna” she’s an Inuit goddess of the underworld who is missing fingers. The old woman who sees her husband’s ghost says the town is where there is a tuft between worlds. In Celtic mythology the spiral 🌀 icon is a symbol of exactly that. There may be no yetis but there are ghosts and there’s a bacteria that can possibly keep death at bay.
@@lexalaHe shows swimming and drowning montions before acting like hes tearing his clothes off his body. This fits with the submerged Danvers in the intro. Billie Eilish also sings "I wanna drown (...) I wanna end me". I'm not saying that Rose is in on it but why does she say that Navarro should keep out of this one, and then tells her that she's screwed when she says that it's tied to Annie K.'s case. Rose knows what happened I say and Travis told her...
Love this season. Loud detractors are the norm now for any show. Being an internet troll apparently is reward enough to compulsively watch and comment on something you think is the “worst” ever. If I don’t like the first episode I don’t watch the second. It saves time.
I think the man who attacked Blair was going to snitch on her for something at Tsalal but was struck by a bucket and then arrested by Navarro before he could say anything.
Very interesting. I'm also struck by the child's drawing of the woman with red eyes. Seems like her fingers are cut off and bleeding in the child's drawing.
Look at the poster for the advertisement for the show. Danvers and Navarro are shining flashlights looking for something under the ice. That is where the mystery of the show will be solved.
@Dizmodo Great video! My thought on the position of the spirals being opposite of each other in s.1 and s.2 is that of - “As within, so without, as above, so below, as the universe, so the soul.”
Don't forget the fact that the murder of season 1 was shown in one of the episodes before the finale, i think it will be the same thing for season 4. We won't be "expecting the murderer to be that person"
People asking why its so spiritual, i think its because the native people of Alaska have the same kind or history & background as native Americans, thats why only certain people see things.
All the clues point to one killer. Multiple references to True Detective Season 1. Iorek Byrnison appears from His Dark Materials. The dead scientists look like a combination of the infected from The Last of Us and the White Walkers from Game of Thrones. The misbegoten female cop vibe is right out of Mare of Easttown. The killer... is HBO!
Remember when detective series were about finding the murderer from the couch? Now everything is possible and the viewer does not have a certain clue to solve the mystery because random things happen all the time. This is a copy/paste from season 1.
Interesting, I think the scientists are responsible for Annie's death too. I think ergot poisoning is responsible for the visions, the symptoms of hypothermia, the stillbirths. And the references to orange.
Its clear the Mines and possibly the research station are causing negative environmental effects that will impact the plot in some way. Maybe that explains the electronic failures with the radios, phones, and the tv at the beginning. Could also possibly cause people to hallucinate?
Someone pointed out to me that the spiral being counter clockwise in season one and its use in the cult can signify evil and harm. Whereas in this season it’s clockwise which could signify the inverse and it’s now a synbol of protection. 🤷🏻♀️ I might have them backwards. Just something that was ooonted out to me.
I think this season so far is pretty good. And I’m someone that loved 1 and found the other two meh. The story is much more gripping and even the whole stuff I think isn’t shoved down your throat and fits with the narrative. It doesn’t feel forced in like most modern shows.
I could see this being part of the answer but they've got to explain some of the weird things like why the scientists undressed and folded their clothes so neatly, why the power flickered out, why they had such horrified expressions, why the caribou jumped off the cliff in the beginning, etc
I rewatched season 1 and I can’t remember the episode but Rust and Marty are looking for Marie Fotaneau, they question a family member who is working at a crawfish restaurant and she also is wearing a hairnet. Not sure if it’s connected but it definitely caught my eye!
Do not look for the physical links between just season 1 and season 4. all 4 seasons are linked in similarities but looked at from different perspectives. all the circumstances are repeated over and over again because time is a flat circle All seasons take place inside the mind of 1 person in a hospital somewhere in Nevada
Also, their theory is great. The women folded the clothes to make it appear that it is the yellow king cult that killed them, which is what some cults do when sacrificing those to the next world, which is what I read. And the laundry grandma and her granddaughter are in on it too.
This season seems to be rapidly falling apart. I was into the first two episodes, but E3 ended badly, with that atrocious demon voice that was unintentionally hilarious. However, my biggest complaint about this season is the lack of prolonged action sequences. Season One had some truly memorable action scenes, and S4 instead has jump scares. Right now this could end up being the worst season overall.
@@TheorySmackbut then elsewhere you say you're enjoying it. You're really so all over the place it's hard to take your thoughts on the show seriously!
Damn you’re right. Although I did notice her sketchy reaction on first time viewing in episode one and knew she’d be in on it somehow didn’t want to know till the end but this confirms it 😭
Is anyone else suspicious of that blonde girl Leah hangs around with? Girl literally disappears after bringing her to that protest in episode 4. As per your observation about the symbol... my co-worker just came back from visiting a friend outside Fairbanks, Alaska... in the North Pole (that is what the town is called)and he told me that when he recieves mail from him, it is labeled North Pole, Alaska. That said, maybe the symbol is flipped because of polarity? Idk... or it could be that the symbol is further reaching and the one from S1 is the Tuttle's take on it?
It was mentioned offhand in episode 1 that Annie was a midwife but so far nothing has come of that. Im guessing it will end up having something to do with why she was murdered.
I think you might be spot on with these predictions. It makes sense, and it would be a great bait and switch. As for the supernatural stuff I wonder if they’ll go with a potential “mine fumes/pollution is causing hallucinations” or something like that. I don’t know. I only started thinking that recently.
Was it just me or did navarro's mum look like she was possest? Think it maybe has something to do with her sister thinking she sees her & also what that scientist said at the end of the episode, that freaked me the fuck out.
I haven’t read comments, but anyone notice it’s an exact excerpt from The Dark Tower? “The fabric of things is thin and the world is old” is almost word for word. They called spots like that a Thinny. And guess who was The Man in Black, aka Red King? Matthew M. And they also had similar facilities at the Beam stations in Dark Tower. Then there’s “The gunslinger fled across the desert, and the man in black followed.” It’s literally called The Wasteland. If that’s not an Ennis type place, nothing is. In season 1, the Iron Crusader dude literally said “I need a gunslinger.” Again, Roland was literally the last Gunslinger. also, if remember, Roland and Jake had to fight the giant bear. That’s a lot of connections. Just realized the whole time is a circle thing is also in the Dark Tower. Roland/Rustin is doing the loop again and again and again. Time is a flat circle and so on.
As good a theory as any at this point. It was funny how Blair walked away like in an SNL skit. A little too obvious. Bad directing, bad acting, or meant to deceive?
I would be extremely disappointed if you're right. I was thinking this show is kind of forcing itself into a corner with the expectations of something supernatural. I wonder what the fan reaction will be after everything is revealed. I find the ties back to season 1 to be the most interesting aspect of this season.
Yeah, I think the whole point was to get everyone bought in with the S1 connections My biggest fear (and also my expectation) is that the S1 ties will actually end up meaning nothing in the end, royally pissing everyone off. Lol
I remember watching a UA-cam reviewer’s review of this show before it came out and she mentioned the ending was very much on the feminism side. So I have a feeling this theory is pretty much confirmed unfortunately. I too think it will be a terrible ending if it does happen. Which I think it will.
It seems like a stretch to connect the drawing in trailer to the crab/cleaning woman. It doesn’t seem likely that she’s always wearing a hairnet, especially when cleaning. I do think the character is going to be a bigger part of the plot because I think the drawing Darwin did of the local legend depicts a woman without/losing fingers and Blair is missing fingers. I hadn’t considered the handprint, but it’s possible that the ring and pinky finger aren’t in the print because the person was missing those fingers.
Okay, I can go with the theory that the women are probably maybe a part of it but answer me this why not just because they’re being oppressed there has to be another meaning behind it but a very good theory seems a bit overkill for it just being all we’re feeling oppressed, and we want to stand up and take our power back and why those men why not the men that have been brutal to them all the ones that they work withseems a bit of a reach
Just like in season 1 when the killer was shown early on in the season on the riding lawnmower. They tried to make him seem inconspicuous but I remember talking about him as suspicious after that episode first aired. Same thing with this cleaning lady
@@TheorySmack ALSO....maybe the woman was having a fling with the scientist...why her print was on his boot. She may have gone down to the caves and knows/has seen the "spiral." Seems like any women who go out to the labs hook up with one of the guys. I think they have gone supernatural this season--or the supernatural is linked to the dna/water.
Or he's hiding because whoever "she" is is hunting for him, I'm also wondering why the orange was thrown back at navarro, that bit freaked me out & why didn't she investigate it, didn't the bit with her mum in it look like she was possest.
@@deancalder8799 Yeah he can be hiding too. About the orange scene I think Navarro is afraid of having supernatural powers (like her mom and sister that people are unsure if its a mental issue or supernatural gifts). Last minutes of episode 3 are even more weird and scary to me
This is my theory also, I wish they didn’t pan to Blair so obviously…it’s a poor decision honestly. But These women are the only ones who go to that lab every so often, know the ins and outs. They did it to avenge the lady that was killed, and their connection to whatever the mine is doing to their land. Also I think the water is causing people to freak out and see things, but maybe they (the woman) weaponized it somehow. I guess so there is a twist left, the guy Navarro is having sex with has something to do with it…or the young cop that plays dumber than he is, had something to do with the young girl being killed.
I think the dad cop does, notice how he's sending pics to someone he's never met, he's sending pics of himself & the son, could be to know who the cops are.
Thank you Funny everyone I watch and their followers love this season. First time hearing this. but now I’m kinda getting it…. Lol women in power and hating on all the men because I mean don’t we all 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤭 so we be having all the men being “dumb” and all. Wow somebody getting butthurt. By the sounds of your theory’s. Wow haters chilllll it’s a tv show. 🤪
There are children's games at TSALAL Maybe Clark and Annie had a baby girl and Clark was just uptight that she woke from her nap Also Clark's first name is Raymond or RAY who has a relationship with ANNIE Season 2 had RAY Velcoro who had a relationship with ANI Bezerides
bla bla the story telling of the show is so awkward that even people who review the show cannot easily summarize it. NOBODY ACTUALLY SAYS "I LIKE THE SHOW, I LIKE THE STORY, I LIKE THE CHARACTERS, I LIKE THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE CHARACTERS."
They are highly impressed with it. This exceptional work has received outstanding reviews and a rating of 9.5 stars. Any negative opinions are likely from a minority who do not support empowered women, but their influence is limited and will not prevail.
Thank god showrunner Issa Lopez focused on strong women and weak men, we don’t see enough of that! Hopefully they incorporate LGBT too, we never hear about that group!
Kinda sucks they made it woke detective. But I’ll put up with that bullshit if it brings me rusts dad and possible mom. More carcosa and yellow king cult connections. Also trying to figure out how and why the tuttles are SO big. If they don’t include anymore tuttles/cults/spiral connections it’ll literally be a huge waste of time.
@@number2055 no one paid me to watch the show dumb ***. WE PAID OUR money to watch the show!!…WASTED money. Why is your response highlighted?!?…. It doesn’t even make sense. This show is incredibly BAD. Producers and actors made millions while selling us CRAP shows!!! And everyone is tired of it. Anyone saying different is blowing smoke. Period.
Foster is really good, I don’t get girl boss vibes from her. They show her as flawed and someone who makes mistakes. Not as sold on Ries as the co lead. Feel like they could’ve gotten a better actor, regardless of gender, for the role. Also, imagine during the sex scene if a female character had asked to stop and the male character kept going. That wouldn’t fly. Overall, it’s better than S2, not quite as good as S3 and nowhere near the stratosphere of S1. However, it’s still worthwhile to watch, imo.
I don't mind the show being about capable women but I don't care for women being shown as incredible and men as worthless losers, that's a little heavy handed for me, I have been really enjoying this season though
@@eszemaszeszed nice bait. I don’t hate capable women. I just can’t stand writers going out of their way to depict men as near tar ded. Idk what else to tell you. This season hasn’t been s2 bad. But they are taking liberties and doing things that are hypocritical if the roles were reversed
@@wyrlismike Peter is shown as capable. But I agree, there’s some male characters that are just poorly written, one dimensional simps. Hank Prior would be at the prime example, which is a shame bc John Hawkes is a great actor.
2 ep and the season is garbage? Lol people are garbage I think they trying to hard to push the women narrative tho what they bunch them up naked in the snow till they freeze in that position? Lol nah
“She’s awake”… this might not have to do with Annie, but remember the picture Darwin drew? I wonder if it’s based off of an Inuit myth/legend.
Yeah this local towns women being the killers, not buying it at all. Annie is the one that they awoke with their experiments...and the notes written about her "I can hear her fingers moving, "I can hear her outside" all the disturbing notes Jodie Foster is reading that the scientist wrote that was with Annie along with the core samples page, and the description of her eyes...they did something and it backfires, witchcraft and ice lore are afoot, again not buying the women killed the scientists.... it's way deeper and horrifying than that.
The blue queen
yeah that drawing was of Sedna goddess of the sea. Cast into the water by her father to appease the ocean, her fingers clung to the side of his boat until he cut them off. She is the vengeful goddess of the sea and underworld that determines whether or not a season will be bountiful.
Back to form, like the first season.
I believe that the supernatural elements are connected to the contaminated water. The characters consistently discuss the presence of tainted water, suggesting that it is responsible for their eerie experiences. Consequently, the poisoned water appears to be affecting their mental state.
I think its because of the native people of alaska, k ow how they have the same stories like native Americans, I think it's like that.
Just like Rusts mind in Season 1. He also said chemical drugs and that these halucinations never left him. Totally on board with this theory.
omg sooo boring
Why are people trashing this season? I think it's been fantastic
Not sure, I’m enjoying it
because women, because POC, too "woke' for snowflakes
Cuz of the spiritual aspect isn’t realistic
@@savy8516 y all acting like season 1 wasn t always like that
@@___Somebody___ agreed! This is exactly why I liked S1 so much, the whole time it was so grounded and yet "otherworldly" at the same. The tension in the paradox is a key thing that made it so compelling
Oh this is goodddddd!! I’m on board with this theory. I hope we get more Tuttle talk. I’d like a deeper connection between this season and the yellow king.
I think you're going to be disappointed, unfortunately.
@@TheorySmackbro If they just tease us with how the tuttles have the funds to hire crazy amounts of scientists to do tests in this secret arctic lab and how it connects to carcosa yellowing cult stuff and instead just solves a native woman’s murder while making it a fully woke show I’m gonna be furious lol.
@@TheorySmackexplain rust chole's dad, the spiral and the turtles?
Me too! I’m hoping the story will build off of some of following quotes from Lovecraft stories: "They worshipped, so they said, the Great Old Ones who lived ages
before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky. Those Old Ones were gone now, inside the earth and under the sea; but their dead bodies had told their secrets in dreams to the first men, who formed a cult which had never died . . . 🌀This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu (but may a siren instead) from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway."
“In our quest for scientific advancement, we risk awakening forces that should have remained dormant.”
“The ancient ones lie dreaming beneath the ice, their influence seeping into the minds of those unfortunate enough to stumble upon their secrets.”
And they show tunnels in the preview, so maybe this: “Would to Heaven we had never approached them at all, but had run back at top speed out of that blasphemous tunnel with the greasily smooth floors and the degenerate murals aping and mocking the things they had superseded-run back, before we had seen what we did see, and before our minds were burned with something which will never let us breathe easily again!”🤞🙏🤞
Fantastic season, I’m obsessed. And to be honest, this theory seems really plausible. Almost feel like you ruined the ending 😂
Lol, want me! I’m just reporting on what I found
Plus, the answer(s) behind the supernatural stuff will be a big deal too
I for one am loving this season. My brother, flatmate and I spend many hours trying to figure out what's going on. I am also on board with this theory and would never have picked it up but for encountering this video. I wonder, also, that due to the secretive behaviour of the Tsalal scientists, they have some kind of lab under the ice that requires a lot of energy - hence the blackouts. In the season trailer, we see a chase scene where one scientist is trying to get away through a network of tunnels in the ice. Who knows?
I think you're on to something with the tunnels!
You called it dude!
This is really interesting. I wonder if the crab processing facility has some kind of machinery that they could have used when putting them out there. Maybe they killed the men and froze them in a crab fridge before bringing them out to the ice and blasting them with water for cleaning the crabs. They did say they reversed the roles of men and women so it makes sense if the ladies are the heroes and the murders.
Nice theory, lets remember Annie K was a midwife & Peters wife is a night nurse.
I think this is the best theory yet. They only showed the cleaning lady once BUT they keep going back to the guy who allegedly assaulted her. Dude's been in just about every episode so far.
I just watched tomorrow night's episode and Blair makes a very sneaky/subtle appearance.
You'll have to see if you see it :)
I also believe that the reference to the Tuttles and even the Carcosa stuff is either misdirection or just trivial details in the grand scheme of the larger conspiracy...
I have a theory that all the Carcosa/Yellow King imagery was stuff that was ALREADY in the trailer that Clark and Anne K banged in. Because it used to be Rust Cohle's trailer and, like his storage unit in Louisiana, he covered the walls with "The Sprawl" as he obsessed over the case
The spirals spinning in opposite directions calls out the North and south magnetic fields of the earth. Season 1 being in the south hemisphere and Alaska in the north for season 4. The “portals” have always been an aspect of Corcosa and this likely ties together with the research at tsalal and the never ending drawing of two circles at earths core with emanating electrical field lines. The mine clearly will play into this later as it’s drawing from something deep within the earth.
Louisiana is still far north of the south hemisphere!
Doors always look different on the other side. So if it is a portal reference it would be the opposite direction looking back from where you came from. Anyway, just a thought.
Blair and Clark are both names from the Thing
I have a theory on the spiral. I think that in the first season, the show writers were alluding to the fact that you needed to look further and further outward to find the killer. In other words, the mysteries grew further and further from the center of the storythis season I think it’s the opposite direction you need to look closer and closer. And I think the theory that you have produced about the hairnets and all that situation are spot on with what’s already happening.
If you look at the drawing the kid makes in episode 1, the right hand has the ring and pinky finger cut off and they’re bleeding. When you compare it to how he draws the other hand the fingers are definitely different.
The old native woman seems to be in on it. In the opening crab processing center scene she covers for how those two fingers got cut off.
Interesting…
What do we think it means then?
@@TheorySmack look up “Sedna” she’s an Inuit goddess of the underworld who is missing fingers.
The old woman who sees her husband’s ghost says the town is where there is a tuft between worlds. In Celtic mythology the spiral 🌀 icon is a symbol of exactly that.
There may be no yetis but there are ghosts and there’s a bacteria that can possibly keep death at bay.
The spiral 🌀 is a representation of a staircase and as rose states it’s older than the ice itself.
@@theconqueringf00l86 the spiral is also a ancient way to depict the milky way, seen on pictographs.
Why does no one mention that Travis Cohle's dance shows Rose what happened to the scientists?
Can you explain more?
@@lexalaHe shows swimming and drowning montions before acting like hes tearing his clothes off his body. This fits with the submerged Danvers in the intro. Billie Eilish also sings "I wanna drown (...) I wanna end me". I'm not saying that Rose is in on it but why does she say that Navarro should keep out of this one, and then tells her that she's screwed when she says that it's tied to Annie K.'s case. Rose knows what happened I say and Travis told her...
Love this season. Loud detractors are the norm now for any show. Being an internet troll apparently is reward enough to compulsively watch and comment on something you think is the “worst” ever. If I don’t like the first episode I don’t watch the second. It saves time.
Blair is another call back to the thing. Blair was infected and sabotaged the research station.
Yes! Lots of The Thing call backs I've noticed as well.
I was thinking the “third eye” in the drawings could be the swirl tat.
I think the man who attacked Blair was going to snitch on her for something at Tsalal but was struck by a bucket and then arrested by Navarro before he could say anything.
That would be the ultimate twist considering Navarro keeps fighting him instead of say striking up a conversation.
I also love this new season up to now !
The show is great and will require some digging into the Inupiat culture, lore/mythology.
Good guess but I think there is more to all this. A good writer always finds an away to take people down the wrong direction.
I’m enjoying this season, people are just hating
This season is good!
Very interesting. I'm also struck by the child's drawing of the woman with red eyes. Seems like her fingers are cut off and bleeding in the child's drawing.
I think he drew Sedna. She’s part of Inuit culture.
Yes - the same blue and red color scheme as what the workers wear. I was wondering why he didn’t show it!
Look at the poster for the advertisement for the show. Danvers and Navarro are shining flashlights looking for something under the ice. That is where the mystery of the show will be solved.
@Dizmodo Great video! My thought on the position of the spirals being opposite of each other in s.1 and s.2 is that of - “As within, so without, as above, so below, as the universe, so the soul.”
This season is really good.
Don't forget the fact that the murder of season 1 was shown in one of the episodes before the finale, i think it will be the same thing for season 4. We won't be "expecting the murderer to be that person"
The dora Lange murder ?
@@YelløwKing666 yeah
Murderer.
People asking why its so spiritual, i think its because the native people of Alaska have the same kind or history & background as native Americans, thats why only certain people see things.
What do you think about the "rare specimen" photo when Liz is first walking around in the lab?
All the clues point to one killer.
Multiple references to True Detective Season 1.
Iorek Byrnison appears from His Dark Materials.
The dead scientists look like a combination of the infected from The Last of Us and the White Walkers from Game of Thrones.
The misbegoten female cop vibe is right out of Mare of Easttown.
The killer... is HBO!
Remember when detective series were about finding the murderer from the couch? Now everything is possible and the viewer does not have a certain clue to solve the mystery because random things happen all the time. This is a copy/paste from season 1.
Interesting, I think the scientists are responsible for Annie's death too. I think ergot poisoning is responsible for the visions, the symptoms of hypothermia, the stillbirths. And the references to orange.
no ergot in that ice, it wont grow.
Not only is Blair involved but so is the older woman that defended her. She automatically labeled the spiral a “devil sign” without any provocation
Its clear the Mines and possibly the research station are causing negative environmental effects that will impact the plot in some way. Maybe that explains the electronic failures with the radios, phones, and the tv at the beginning. Could also possibly cause people to hallucinate?
I could see that along with the long night to cause visions/hallucinations.
Doesn't explain electrical failure to me, but who knows
i was hoping i wasn't the only one that saw her acting suspicious, but i missed the detail of her fingers and the prints. good call
Pretty good sir ! Great research😮
Thanks!
The Woman foster called Laundry Grandma may be in on it too, the clothes were folded
Blue king
Yellow king
Translate TSALAL and watch the clocks,
Time is a flat circle
Spiral inward
Spiral outward.
Someone pointed out to me that the spiral being counter clockwise in season one and its use in the cult can signify evil and harm. Whereas in this season it’s clockwise which could signify the inverse and it’s now a synbol of protection. 🤷🏻♀️ I might have them backwards. Just something that was ooonted out to me.
CRABS 🦀, iam sticking with crabs. group of crabs gangs up and took revenge..😂
I think this season so far is pretty good. And I’m someone that loved 1 and found the other two meh.
The story is much more gripping and even the whole stuff I think isn’t shoved down your throat and fits with the narrative. It doesn’t feel forced in like most modern shows.
Everyone's gonna feel foolish when it turns out that Qavvik (the bartender) ends up being the killer.
I could see this being part of the answer but they've got to explain some of the weird things like why the scientists undressed and folded their clothes so neatly, why the power flickered out, why they had such horrified expressions, why the caribou jumped off the cliff in the beginning, etc
Yep, exactly
Wow. 3 weeks before the finale & people out there got it right. I never saw it coming
It was right, the season just ended and this theory was right, about the other questions ended up with no answers
wouldnt it be more likely the one who forgot her name as Oliver said?
Touché, you got a sub
Yup I think women getting even sounds like a good bet and I noticed the the spiral was backwards too. Not sure what that means
The fact that her name is Blair gave me a Blair Witch nod.
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I rewatched season 1 and I can’t remember the episode but Rust and Marty are looking for Marie Fotaneau, they question a family member who is working at a crawfish restaurant and she also is wearing a hairnet. Not sure if it’s connected but it definitely caught my eye!
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Could be, this series is so good it wouldn't surprise me or it may be because they have to wear hair nets at the work because of hygiene.
What do you guys think? Is this how it'll end?
Did you delete my comment on the last video offering 3 WW2; channels for the lady's husband?
@@tpl608 I've never deleted a comment of yours, so...no.
@@TheorySmack no clue where it went
Reindeer flies
Imagine it’s Ruste Cohle that killed all the scientists
Do not look for the physical links between just season 1 and season 4.
all 4 seasons are linked in similarities but looked at from different perspectives.
all the circumstances are repeated over and over again because time is a flat circle
All seasons take place inside the mind of 1 person in a hospital somewhere in Nevada
Also, their theory is great. The women folded the clothes to make it appear that it is the yellow king cult that killed them, which is what some cults do when sacrificing those to the next world, which is what I read. And the laundry grandma and her granddaughter are in on it too.
I think it is because of the tuttle reference in episode 2.
i keep waiting for the true crime reporter Elisa from season 3. she was like the only one asking the right questions!
Lol - TRUTH
she would fit in to the moral ambiguity of night country as well she wasnt scared to sleep her way to the truth@@TheorySmack
This season seems to be rapidly falling apart. I was into the first two episodes, but E3 ended badly, with that atrocious demon voice that was unintentionally hilarious. However, my biggest complaint about this season is the lack of prolonged action sequences. Season One had some truly memorable action scenes, and S4 instead has jump scares. Right now this could end up being the worst season overall.
Sadly, I think you may be right
@@TheorySmackbut then elsewhere you say you're enjoying it. You're really so all over the place it's hard to take your thoughts on the show seriously!
Imdb kinda spoils whos in the final episode so yeah I think your theories have some merit.
Damn you’re right. Although I did notice her sketchy reaction on first time viewing in episode one and knew she’d be in on it somehow didn’t want to know till the end but this confirms it 😭
I LOVE this season
Is anyone else suspicious of that blonde girl Leah hangs around with? Girl literally disappears after bringing her to that protest in episode 4.
As per your observation about the symbol... my co-worker just came back from visiting a friend outside Fairbanks, Alaska... in the North Pole (that is what the town is called)and he told me that when he recieves mail from him, it is labeled North Pole, Alaska. That said, maybe the symbol is flipped because of polarity? Idk... or it could be that the symbol is further reaching and the one from S1 is the Tuttle's take on it?
It was mentioned offhand in episode 1 that Annie was a midwife but so far nothing has come of that. Im guessing it will end up having something to do with why she was murdered.
She was murdered because she was an activist trying to shut down the mines.
@@2011USA2011 first TV show?
I think you might be spot on with these predictions. It makes sense, and it would be a great bait and switch. As for the supernatural stuff I wonder if they’ll go with a potential “mine fumes/pollution is causing hallucinations” or something like that. I don’t know. I only started thinking that recently.
Was it just me or did navarro's mum look like she was possest? Think it maybe has something to do with her sister thinking she sees her & also what that scientist said at the end of the episode, that freaked me the fuck out.
You were right dude. You got my follow!
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I haven’t read comments, but anyone notice it’s an exact excerpt from The Dark Tower? “The fabric of things is thin and the world is old” is almost word for word. They called spots like that a Thinny. And guess who was The Man in Black, aka Red King? Matthew M. And they also had similar facilities at the Beam stations in Dark Tower. Then there’s “The gunslinger fled across the desert, and the man in black followed.” It’s literally called The Wasteland. If that’s not an Ennis type place, nothing is. In season 1, the Iron Crusader dude literally said “I need a gunslinger.” Again, Roland was literally the last Gunslinger. also, if remember, Roland and Jake had to fight the giant bear. That’s a lot of connections. Just realized the whole time is a circle thing is also in the Dark Tower. Roland/Rustin is doing the loop again and again and again. Time is a flat circle and so on.
What an excellent comment, thank you! Also Lovecraft was a huge influence on Stephen King and seems to also be an influence on True Detective.
The factory lashes are behind it. Rose is their leader.
@@dianegreyson8787 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….good point!!!! Are you in law enforcement
As good a theory as any at this point. It was funny how Blair walked away like in an SNL skit. A little too obvious. Bad directing, bad acting, or meant to deceive?
I think it’s a group of ppl in the town
Same
Your propably right about blair. Every name from the thing seems to be somehow important
could Blair be a missing girl from S1?
Nah
You’re in Carcosa now
Still feels the same here
The underground crab people are the murderers...
I hope that its wrong so I can enjoy the season, but this seems spot on. We will see!
I would be extremely disappointed if you're right. I was thinking this show is kind of forcing itself into a corner with the expectations of something supernatural. I wonder what the fan reaction will be after everything is revealed. I find the ties back to season 1 to be the most interesting aspect of this season.
Yeah, I think the whole point was to get everyone bought in with the S1 connections
My biggest fear (and also my expectation) is that the S1 ties will actually end up meaning nothing in the end, royally pissing everyone off. Lol
I remember watching a UA-cam reviewer’s review of this show before it came out and she mentioned the ending was very much on the feminism side. So I have a feeling this theory is pretty much confirmed unfortunately. I too think it will be a terrible ending if it does happen. Which I think it will.
It seems like a stretch to connect the drawing in trailer to the crab/cleaning woman. It doesn’t seem likely that she’s always wearing a hairnet, especially when cleaning.
I do think the character is going to be a bigger part of the plot because I think the drawing Darwin did of the local legend depicts a woman without/losing fingers and Blair is missing fingers. I hadn’t considered the handprint, but it’s possible that the ring and pinky finger aren’t in the print because the person was missing those fingers.
Okay, I can go with the theory that the women are probably maybe a part of it but answer me this why not just because they’re being oppressed there has to be another meaning behind it but a very good theory seems a bit overkill for it just being all we’re feeling oppressed, and we want to stand up and take our power back and why those men why not the men that have been brutal to them all the ones that they work withseems a bit of a reach
Maybe the women are seeking justice for the contaminated water causing stillbirths and other problems caused by the mining?
What if your all wrong
Just like in season 1 when the killer was shown early on in the season on the riding lawnmower. They tried to make him seem inconspicuous but I remember talking about him as suspicious after that episode first aired. Same thing with this cleaning lady
Aye 100%
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popped in my head: "polar opposites." (discussion of the spirals.)
NICE
@@TheorySmack ALSO....maybe the woman was having a fling with the scientist...why her print was on his boot. She may have gone down to the caves and knows/has seen the "spiral." Seems like any women who go out to the labs hook up with one of the guys. I think they have gone supernatural this season--or the supernatural is linked to the dna/water.
They didnt find Clark’s body yet, so for now he is the killer 🤔
Or he's hiding because whoever "she" is is hunting for him, I'm also wondering why the orange was thrown back at navarro, that bit freaked me out & why didn't she investigate it, didn't the bit with her mum in it look like she was possest.
@@deancalder8799 Yeah he can be hiding too. About the orange scene I think Navarro is afraid of having supernatural powers (like her mom and sister that people are unsure if its a mental issue or supernatural gifts). Last minutes of episode 3 are even more weird and scary to me
It's the dark is pays tickets on you
Dunno who’s possibly hating on Jodie or this latest season.
Looking forward to the next episode.
This is my theory also, I wish they didn’t pan to Blair so obviously…it’s a poor decision honestly. But These women are the only ones who go to that lab every so often, know the ins and outs. They did it to avenge the lady that was killed, and their connection to whatever the mine is doing to their land. Also I think the water is causing people to freak out and see things, but maybe they (the woman) weaponized it somehow.
I guess so there is a twist left, the guy Navarro is having sex with has something to do with it…or the young cop that plays dumber than he is, had something to do with the young girl being killed.
I think they did that deliberately as a miss direction.
I think she could hsve been killed by the community because of her relationship with the scientist.
I think the dad cop does, notice how he's sending pics to someone he's never met, he's sending pics of himself & the son, could be to know who the cops are.
If the cleaning ladies killed the researchers why was Annie's tongue there?
@@number2055great question, possibly to throw off the cops.
With the Rust Cohl references, I'd be super disappointed if we don't get a Matthew McConaughey cameo
Not gonna happen
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Thank you
Funny everyone I watch and their followers love this season. First time hearing this. but now I’m kinda getting it…. Lol women in power and hating on all the men because I mean don’t we all 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤭 so we be having all the men being “dumb” and all.
Wow somebody getting butthurt. By the sounds of your theory’s. Wow haters chilllll it’s a tv show. 🤪
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I remember, hadn't gotten to it though
@@TheorySmack Eagerly waiting for that....
There are children's games at TSALAL Maybe Clark and Annie had a baby girl and Clark was just uptight that she woke from her nap
Also Clark's first name is Raymond or RAY who has a relationship with ANNIE
Season 2 had RAY Velcoro who had a relationship with ANI Bezerides
I have been underwhelmed with this series; poor writing has created dull characters and abysmal acting.
bla bla the story telling of the show is so awkward that even people who review the show cannot easily summarize it. NOBODY ACTUALLY SAYS "I LIKE THE SHOW, I LIKE THE STORY, I LIKE THE CHARACTERS, I LIKE THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE CHARACTERS."
People think this season is garbage?
A lot, actually.
I certainly don’t.
They are highly impressed with it. This exceptional work has received outstanding reviews and a rating of 9.5 stars. Any negative opinions are likely from a minority who do not support empowered women, but their influence is limited and will not prevail.
Thank god showrunner Issa Lopez focused on strong women and weak men, we don’t see enough of that! Hopefully they incorporate LGBT too, we never hear about that group!
Kinda sucks they made it woke detective. But I’ll put up with that bullshit if it brings me rusts dad and possible mom. More carcosa and yellow king cult connections. Also trying to figure out how and why the tuttles are SO big. If they don’t include anymore tuttles/cults/spiral connections it’ll literally be a huge waste of time.
I’m afraid that’s going to be the case…
@@TheorySmack I am too 😪 but they have such a huge and great opportunity to redeem themselves for s2 and s3 letdowns.
This show has been really awful.
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE show!!! Bad acting writing directing. HORRIBLE. They all owe us our money back.
Who paid you to watch the show?
@@number2055 no one paid me to watch the show dumb ***. WE PAID OUR money to watch the show!!…WASTED money. Why is your response highlighted?!?…. It doesn’t even make sense. This show is incredibly BAD. Producers and actors made millions while selling us CRAP shows!!! And everyone is tired of it. Anyone saying different is blowing smoke. Period.
Hate the writing in this season. Men aren’t this dumb and women aren’t this amazing. It’s crazy how hard this is pushed in media
only insecure men have these issues with this season.
Foster is really good, I don’t get girl boss vibes from her. They show her as flawed and someone who makes mistakes. Not as sold on Ries as the co lead. Feel like they could’ve gotten a better actor, regardless of gender, for the role. Also, imagine during the sex scene if a female character had asked to stop and the male character kept going. That wouldn’t fly.
Overall, it’s better than S2, not quite as good as S3 and nowhere near the stratosphere of S1. However, it’s still worthwhile to watch, imo.
I don't mind the show being about capable women but I don't care for women being shown as incredible and men as worthless losers, that's a little heavy handed for me, I have been really enjoying this season though
@@eszemaszeszed nice bait. I don’t hate capable women. I just can’t stand writers going out of their way to depict men as near tar ded. Idk what else to tell you. This season hasn’t been s2 bad. But they are taking liberties and doing things that are hypocritical if the roles were reversed
@@wyrlismike Peter is shown as capable. But I agree, there’s some male characters that are just poorly written, one dimensional simps. Hank Prior would be at the prime example, which is a shame bc John Hawkes is a great actor.
Spiral energy goes in one direction for male energy and another direction for women when doing energy work 💗🦋
2 ep and the season is garbage? Lol people are garbage I think they trying to hard to push the women narrative tho what they bunch them up naked in the snow till they freeze in that position? Lol nah
I kind of think that's exactly what happens actually...lol