TRUE DETECTIVE Season 4: Evangeline Navarro's Ending Explained
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- I review, breakdown and explain True Detective Night Country. I discuss the season 4 finale, episode 6 and the theory around if Navarro was dead or alive during the ending. I answer if she was a ghost or if she was actually alongside Liz after she walked out onto the Ice. I react to the most common theories and provide a conclusion on what I think happened and what it meant.
00:00 Intro
01:05 Is Evangeline Navarro Alive?
05:10 Is Evangeline Navarro Dead?
07:23 What I think And The Conclusion
08:56 Outro
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What do you think Evangeline Navarro's ending meant in the True Detective Night Country finale? Do you think she survived? Let me know your thoughts below!
I think she's alive too her name is symbolic of ad u said moving on and living. She just wanted to leave a piece of how she remembered them ie the sons bear the SpongeBob Toothbrush. As these items meant something to the owners represents that she sees them even when they don't see her. She doesn't need to die for that to be the case
dont care... dead, alive what ever
She is 100% alive and lives with Danvers and Leah outside of Ennis.
Twist and Shout + "Clean Real Good."
It's the only explanation for how the cleaning ladies were able to drive a box truck through the snow while leaving zero evidence, yet CCTV caught Hank tailing Danvers.
Couldn’t care less
If Navarro's walking off to die in the ice,whyyyy is she keeping her hands warm in her pockets? I think she's saying last good bye to Julia. Navarro walked away from Ennis.
That's a poetic way to look at it!
That’s a perfect observation! She is alive! Shes too strong of a character to give up!
She is doing what Oliver Tagaq was doing. Going off grid and be a nomad after fully understanding herself.
Because its poorly written
Yep. Her house was cleared out, including bedsheets.
I believe that Evangeline’s walk out onto the ice is a symbolic death….. leaving Ennis behind, leaving the trauma of all that she had endured in the past, to finally rediscover her true nature out on the baron ice….perhaps a “40 days in the desert” analogy, except it is a snowy, icy landscape…as someone mentioned in a previous comment, she walked into the light, not the darkness……a beautiful tribute to her indigenous name….
We definitely needed 2 more episodes. So many questions were not answered.
because it was awfully written
no we don't
I think Navarro isn't dead because the colour of the jacket he was wearing when she ventured out into the endless snowy landscape and the one she was wearing in the final scene are different. If she was a ghost then she would be wearing the same clothes !!
One could use that same argument to say she is day,since she is now all black clapped, or maybe even not wearing the jacket and only the inside one, that she is indeed dead
He says exactly that in the video lol.
Every ghost I've ever met smelt like shit...
If she was a ghost (I think she is) she can be wearing whatever the hell Danvers wants her to be wearing
@@energydriver46 yeah I found that when I completed the video..and I am glad that both of our theories match. And I believe that she isn't a ghost.
Yep...Rose,Tagak,Heiss...off the grid. Rust Cohle went off the grid,no phone. Walked away from their jobs...Tagak," He's not looking to be found". What did Navarro tell Pete," not everything is on the internet, Freshman"...
I agree. And the interviewer at the end said something about the random sightings of her. And it is said that "she won't be found on the ice"
@@vandydubre7562I think Navarro entered a time portal. She’s there but not there on the same time as others.
Why did she go off the grid?
She wasn't born there. She has no ties there. Her journey in Ennis is done; she solved the case and her guilt is over.
@@KaylaMarie_ Because fuck politics. It's all she dealt with as a cop. That's why she popped that one dude, because he was never gonna serve true justice. So Navarro took care of that. Sometime the law needs to be takin into your hands.
I think Evangeline is still alive. She ventured into the snow to (maybe) face her demons and do some soul searching. Also, now that she has discovered her true name, “Siqinnaatchiaq” which means, “the return of the sun after the long darkness,” it has given her a since of hope and strength to move on.
I think she's alive. If one looks closely, she is walking towards the sun (we see a small view of it) to see if her name's meaning was true. It was because when we see her with Liz, the camera shot divides the two with Liz at peace and Navarro having the sun rising in her direction. I want to know what book Liz was reading!
The mug Pete brought to Liz had "Hawaii" on it. She deliberately turned it around to throw the two investigators off as if to say Navarro was there. I think Navarro is in another part of Alaska because of the clothes they had on in the end plus the scenery.
This was a great series and I enjoyed your breakdowns, too! 💯
"surf's up Danvers!, totally rad break at Honolua Bay dude!" 🏄♀️🌊☀️ ...😂
I think Hank had the tongue and put it in the station because he felt guilty for his actions. He knew it would link the two cases. He didn’t count on McKittrick wanting him to do more for them. Navarro is alive and Liz and Leah are visiting her, that’s why they’re so happy.
So where did he get it? Where did he keep it for six years? How did he get it to tsalal? Lol
@@PeaceLoveShawn he was the one who originally moved the body and the scientist said they weren’t the ones who cut out the tongue. He kept it in his freezer for leverage against the mine/scientists later?
@@MettleHurlant so when did he get it back to tsalal? Right before Danvers got there?
I love Navarro, her character and the actress are great! Complex, bad ass yet loyal and loving!! I hope to see her in more shows and movies!!
She was a good character to be fair! Interesting to follow
Anna's tongue was brought back by Anna's ghost. The tongue basically represented Anna was still protesting from beyond the grave. In the spirit world, the dead could still see the living and would appear to people and loved ones throughout the city of Ennis.
Liar.
@@Hellyaman About what????? Who put the tongue there, it wasn't the Police. It wasn't the women that came back for revenge for Anna's murder, and it wasn't the scientists. So if we use deductive reasoning, it has to be Anna's spirit.
@@d-vo5042 That's what I think, too!
I loved this season. Id say 80% of questions were answered. Enough for me to be satisfied. And i choose to believe Navarro is definitely alive and living a new life where there is more sun.
That's fair!
💀💀💀💀
I liked the season but I really think they had an obligation to answer the question of the tongue since it was the weird hook that drew us in to this whole mystery. I expected to know clearly by the end of the story who kept it and who put that there. I get that it's hard to write a narrative in which there are supernatural and physical explanations that dovetail into one another but it's not impossible. They ran tests on this tongue, it physically existed, it had to get there some way. It just feels like a setup that they never figured out how to properly pay off. Emotional payoff isn't enough, a mystery like this has to be tight and plausible with both a supernatural and rational explanation for True Detective. The scene of what happened to the scientists walked that line perfectly, and I expected a similar scene for the tongue. In the end what we got was "who knows, that's not our story," but it is the author of the show's story, and it needed something more.
Fr, I agree. Yeah it seems like they started the show off strong, something happened and they lost significant passion/drive and just sloppily tied up all the loose ends.
It’s like they forgot about the other 5 episodes by episode 6. So many unexplained things. How did Clark see Navarro when he said “she’s awake” before the scientists died? The injuries they sustained? The pointing?
He didn't see Navarro, he saw Annie. Navarro saw Clark. If time is a flat circle, then Navarro saw Clark through the 5th dimension, similar to what happened to Matthew McConaughey's character at the end of Interstellar. It even showed a flash of light when her vision stopped and she went back to her "own time". She happened to be in the kitchen area and she had a brief vision of what happened there. Annie warned Clark that the other women were coming so her murder could be solved.
@@energydriver46 When Navarro was seeing Clark shake as he looked directly at her. It was like They could see each other. He then stops and says she's awake. Nothing made sense tbh, and I didn't think True Detective was actually supernatural, just the fear of supernatural (but done by bad people)
@@matthewbrears2129that was just a vision that the ghosts showed Navarro about what happened. Clark didn't see Navarro. It's a female voice that asks Navarro to stop there just before she turns and see Clark. Probably Annie showing what happened.
I agree, I think she is alive too. In her journey, she came to a resolution with the spirits that she first thought were trying to take her, and then to find out they only told her the name. Plus that hand reaching out to her was not her mother's, because we do not see any tattoos on her hands in the flashbacks. Is this the "she" spirit connecting with Navarro? Also, on the ice, she is not walking toward the open ocean, like her sister did, she is walking across a bay with hills on the other side. I believe now she is free to roam and help others and the spirits. They do mention that others have reported sighting of her (unless they are all seeing her ghost). Also, not sure if this is important or not, but if she did drown, her ghost was not leaving wet footprints on the deck like her sister's ghost was.
I always look forward to your videos! Your in-depth analysis of everything you watch has become part of my viewing experience. I'm quite sad you didn't enjoy Night Country as much as I did.
Thanks, glad you enjoy the videos! Yeah it's a shame. There were good elements within it, but there were just a fair few questions left there at the end!
I can see why! Also, did you ever think that there would be a Rust Cohle cameo?@@BrainPilot
Great job of covering this season Brain Pilot . I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your videos.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed the videos 👊
She's gorgeous and strong, easily my favorite character on the show.
treats men like shit, tortures and murders. total role model you crazy....
Pete was my favorite personally but I also liked Navarro too.
Pete’s gf was beautiful af too
Yes, Navarro had an exotic beauty. Not sure why the other two people commenting on this thread are getting uncomfortable and bringing up random characters like Pete and his gf. Lol
@@ashley.taylor174 how does having a discussion about characters you like in the show correlate to being uncomfortable lmao. Especially when I said I liked her character too. That’s just such a weird thing to say.
When Liz is getting interviewed and they ask what happened to Navarro, she strokes the Hawaii cup that shes drinking from. Im pretty sure she has enough of the ice cold and went to Hawaii
It's a cool easter egg if that is the case!
Absolutely, and there is an indigenous tie between the people of Alaska and Hawaii. The symbolism and spiritual references throughout the series were smart and beautiful, and Issa didn't treat the viewers like idiots who needed everything explained to them. If you pay attention and do a little research, it's all there to be found.
awesome review and i’m with you that she’s alive, with her name being the light after dark and all those other times she could have died, it wouldn’t make sense, plus danvers was driving somewhere im guessing to navaros new house
Glad you enjoyed and also agree! Yeah, I think that's the case!
The fact Liz is drinking from a Hawaii mug during the interview makes me believe Navarro is for sure alive. Just a tad too random for me. Then they met up somewhere in the middle
Yeah she could have ended up there at some point for sure!
Theory: the show insists that "time is a flat circle" and that's why the characters sometimes see dead people. Well, if time IS a flat circle wouldn't the characters sometimes also see other characters who AREN'T dead yet, just looping like an echo? Maybe the Navarro on the porch is just a time echo and she is still alive, somewhere out there, but 'some part of her will always be in Ennis'.
That’s what I was thinking too. I think Liz and Navarro were at the same place but at different times, hence the reason why they did not acknowledge each other. Navarro might’ve entered a time loop where she can be around the dead and lost loved ones but also be around the living. She was able to leave behind the SpongeBob toothbrush and the one eyed polar bear toy and video of Clark on the cellphone at different times.
Danvers asked Navarro to make sure she came back, if she wanted to go out on the ice. Navarro went on the ice and crossed over to the spirit world, so yes, she is now dead physically, but her spirit is still around. She is also seen around town by other witnesses.
Maybe "she's been spotted" just meant she comes to visit sometimes on the down low but gets seen. Would be so weird that now that she feels closer to her roots she'd decide to kill herself. It was important to her.
I loved this season. These women were all amazing…
more like all bitter
In the show when the dead return they come back in the appearance they died. Evangeline really was there and is alive. Awesome season!
My take also was that she was alive. Clearing out of her house seems like a very deliberate act, of someone who is starting a new life. I also think the scene where we see Liz and Evangeline at the end, well this wasn't Liz's house, so maybe it was Evangeline's? Also everyone else who walked out onto the ice was found dead. Evangeline wasn't, therefore I think she's not dead. I think she simply left her old life and her pain behind in Ennis and walked out in search of the sun, and hopefully found a better life.
Thanks for the video’s. I want to think Navarro is alive and like Rose just needed to leave for a new start embracing the future instead of the trauma of her past. If she was walking off to die, why clean out her resistance? Navarro walked off and appeared to disappear into the light while Travis, Julie etc… seemed to walk off and disappear into darkness. In the end scene the color of Danvers clothing can be seen as she sits down, Navarro is in solid black. It was a peaceful scene and throughout the season we did not see that around each character an especially between them.
Maybe I missed it but Otis is introduced because he has the same injuries as the scientists but they never explain how he got the injuries?
I'm ok with not all being tied into a neat bow, but the blood from the ears kept happening & only to those associated with "beyond this world" events. We should've been given a scientific reason for this happening. I agree! Otis was a total modus operandi; opportunity for clarity lost.
Are we not going to talk about Liz seeing Holden underneath the ice and almost getting her killed?
The dead also connected with her with the gold cross necklace too.
Excellent interpretation, I believed at first Navarro was dead, but you brought up excellent points for her living, ambiguous is right.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I think she is in Hawaii. She had to escape due to the evidence related to wheeler’s death and likely they wanted to question her regarding Clark’s death.
Yeah the mug would be a good subtle easter egg for that!
As soon as I saw that mug, I 100% felt like she was in Hawaii!
This season of True Detective was missing an important act. Actual detective work!
Lazy writing wrapped in social commentary not mystery.
Nah, it was all done off screen by Prior.
@@37Kilo2😂 good point
@@37Kilo2 which one was prior? Imdb doesn't she season 4 up front. Shows season 2 cast.
So when men kill, bad, but women kill, good. Got it
The "poignant" ending didn't make up for the rest. So I'm not praising it as much as love both actresses. They did the best with what they had.
Seems very obvious to me that she's alive. She's not dripping wet, her hair isn't the same as it was when she walked into the snow, she's wearing completely different clothes, she didn't just appear to Liz in Ennis, Liz drove to go see her, Navarro isn't gray or have eyes glossed over. She looks completely healthy and perfectly alive.
I think Navarro is alive, more so than ever maybe.
Exactly! She now knows who she truly is and I think that's changed her for the better. Even when she introduced herself to the women at the end there was a difference in her!
@@BrainPilot I couldn’t agree more! I think she was physically present on that deck with Liz. I think Liz and Leah moved out of Ennis but Liz still is the chief and Navarro is either staying with them or is preparing to go off on her own adventure and wanted to say goodbye to Liz and Leah in person. I personally think the former and then maybe the latter lol
I was surprised when i saw that some people thought she had died in the end. The scene with Danvers and Evangeline on the porch in the end I just took as Danvers visiting E after E settled off the grid. The 2 of them on the porch looked at peace both with each other as well as with their surroundings and within their lives. Danvers was keeping E's secret by not telling the investigators about her whereabouts. I would also argue that, even if E did die in the end, she would still be at peace. Both endings land with her being at peace. It would be sad for the audience but not for her.
I think she died. Liz told Evangeline if she goes off into the ice to come back and she did. The ending is her coming back in spirit form. Your thumbnail...the scene from the inside of the house showing Liz through the closed window and Evangeline through the open door and symbolizes Liz is still here on physical plane but Evangeline is in the spirit world. Windows and doors are both liminal spaces but an open door shows freedom to move between worlds. I also think that Evangeline was Sedna, come to right the wrongs that were done to her people. She came and did what she needed to do and left.
That could be why Clark said she was awake. And we later saw Clark in the past (in ghost form) freak out while staring at Evangeline in the present time. If she is Sedna then that might explain many of the mysteries and time traveling that were not fully answered.
@@ashley.taylor174 exactly! I think that is why after Navarro got her name she was able to go off back into the water/spirit realm and return back to her spirit form.
This entire franchise lives off the first season…
Seasons 1-3 were the best I’ll never understand the hate after season 1 specifically season 2
@@OhcusI liked season 2, season 3 was okay.
Season 1 > Season 3 > Season 2 > Season 4
@@sk8777kid1I liked season 3 a lot more than 2. I think that’s what makes this series good in itself is the fact we all can find different reasons we love or hate certain seasons. (Aside from 1 for it being a masterpiece overall)
@@Ohcus season 2 had nothing to it other than “wow all these people are corrupt, and the majority of them got away with it” and season 3 was a poor copy of season 1, although I still enjoyed it. The Showrunner for Seasons 1-3 was Nic Pizzolato and it was obvious he was kind of pigeonholed into the time-jumping format (especially in Season 3).
The first argument could also support the idea that Navarro died. Ennis and the corporeal world are pretty interchangeable. And the last shot with her and Liz on the deck, with a literal divide between them… either way, she seems at peace.
She didn’t give up- no way did she die after Liz yelled at her and told her her sister gave up.
Liz yelled that at a time when she still did not believe there was an afterlife. But once she saw her kid during her drowning, she found faith. That's why she told Navarro to come back to see her if ever she did end up killing herself.
"surf's up Danvers!, like totally rad break at Honolua Bay!" 🏄♀️🌊 😂
I appreciate your really great analysis of the show and I agree with you that Navarro didn't die in the end. Something that has been bothering me is why in all the visions of the dead, they are pointing. What are they pointing at?
I enjoyed this season but probably because I didn't set expectation of anything matching season 1. I am also not a fan of ambiguous endings, especially with regards to main characters that you connect with (and I loved Evangeline). I would like to believe that she is still alive. The empty house, different clothes at the end and her overall shift in attitude. I also think the meaning of her name (Return of the sun after the long darkness) could apply to her life and breaking the family history of madness/suicide.
Hi Brain Pilot, first I truly appreciate your thorough reviews & analysis of True Detective Night Country, & also of other shows. RE Evangeline, I agree with you that I honestly believed she survived & decided to leave town as they did solve Both cases and that she and Liz became closer & actual friends (versus frenemies) After Evangeline saved Liz's life in the last episode. So I think she was Alive while standing on the right side of Liz's deck with the pretty view in the last scene, as Also her having gotten the meaning of her Inuit name and that it means as I recall the the light coming back after long darkness I agree that's a Positive thing & so she too would have found it to be positive& encouraging to go forward & live her life elsewhere.😊
She went to who was calling her, "Let your soul and spirit fly Into the mystic"
The coffee cup that Pete brings into the interview to Danvers with the investigators has "Hawaii" on it. I like to think that was one of Navarro's travels. For some reason, I felt comforted by that. I think she is still alive.
the shot of her going onto the ice at the end contrasts similar ones we saw before. which prompts me to think she went on to live a life similar to tagaq and heiss, away from society. or, depending on how you interpret liz's words, she could've gone south to a warmer place.
though according to the director at first the ending was supposed to be more explicit, as in navarro was going to die. and that makes sense if you consider the oranges symbolism throughout the season
I wish there had been ten more episodes just because I love the two of them so much period I couldn't wait for a new show to come on each week and I'll watch the whole series over and over again for a few times could they were excellent
I feel like if she was dead then it would’ve showed her scripting down her clothes to properly freeze to death. She was fully clothed and it was not winter anymore, which was why she was not wearing her typical heavy coats and hats. I do feel like time is different there. They were probably in the same vacation spot at different times.
Now that it’s over , I must say I get it all. Great fun ride ! I hope Kali emerges from this with more well deserved projects .
Kali was good to be fair!
Agree on the S1 callbacks, maybe Ennis and environs is where the spiral cult began, morphed into a real-world ice warning. Well, sometimes you should stop Holden the hatch as Liz refers...tongue logistics remained vague but that and your fun points here seem the point, and am fulfilled with that and the show overall. After all, Jodie Foster. Wondered early on if Rose was a figment but great take on Navarro...and her hero's journey?
Thank you for this! I believe she is alive!
Glad you enjoyed the video, same here!
A lot of videos on my feed are trying to prove if Navarro died or lived at the end. As Danvers would say, you’re not asking the right question.
Think she is alive as there is a bit of a sunset at the horizon, which is always a sign of hope & new beginnings. The last scene can be many things including that both of them are at peace, they can just exist, maybe in each other’s presence or in their mind or heart. The scene is peaceful. And beautiful.
It wasn’t a perfect season, but I really liked it. It had enough of everything to make it good.
I LOVED IT.
Feels like I missed 2 or 3 episodes and then watched the finale
I believe she’s wearing the same clothes in the last scene as what she had while walking onto the ice - which lends me more towards thinking she’s dead.
I don't think she is. If you look at the clip in the video where it's side by side they're very different
Doesn’t it irritate you that the tv audience has to finish the story instead of the paid writers of the show? It gets rather tiring because it seems to happen quite frequently nowadays like it’s a thing or trend. Like you, I hope that Navarro is alive if only for the fact that enough people died already. Excellent job reviewing, plus your accent makes the review a lot more interesting.
It seemed to me that they made the show more emotional but like others have said missing detective work. They wrapped everything up at the end very neatly with very little work by the cops.
The person that placed the tongue was Navarro as she was in a time loop, hence why the scientist started to freaked out / shaking - he entered the loop for a second - He then mentions "she's back" but he was just seeing her in the future. Just an idea, who knows hahah!!
I agree Navarro is alive and living off grid. Liz is visiting her friend. It also gives the writers an opportunity to bring them back to continue investigating details of this case that connects to Season 1 and Tuttle United. The writers spent too much time connecting to Season 1. Anyway It would be awesome to have a Season 5 finishing the unanswered questions.
I think she was dead. If you look at that final shot, the Danvers landsacape was in color, but Navarro's view was black and white. I would have liked to know about Annie's tongue.
But Navarro's side is not in black and white. The shrubbery is just as green as the trees on the other side.
Often when one commits suicide they often leave prized possessions with those they love. That’s exactly what happened. Additionally, she continued to talk about being called to walk out to the sea…
I thought she was the spirit or ghost that was mentioned. That vision she had where she was in front of the dude that said she's alive, was like the Harry potter moment with the dementors. She was three one that scared him.
There would be no reason she left the bear with the phone unless it was goodbye. Thats her ghost in my opinion. They never should have tied a single thing to the first season
Agreed. She walked to her death and is now visiting Liz who can’t see her but she can see Liz. Also her clothes at the end looked the same to me as when she walked out on the ice?? Maybe my tv screen is too small lol
Yeah, nobody in the physical world leaves their toothbrush, cellphone, and a photo of a loved one behind. And Danvers threw the bear away, but Navarro had it before leaving the physical world.
@@ashley.taylor174There are people who do just get up and leave like that. Some people talk about just wanting to get up and leave and then you have the ones who do just that.
The Disappeared series on HBO first season-fourth episode talks about a women who went missing for years but was later to have been found living a new life in another state. She didn't take anything with her not even her dog.
Yes, but she explained that she didn’t see death as an ending any more but possibly an act of freedom. For her, choosing to walk out on the ice was an act of freedom after so much trauma and her connecting with the spiritual realm. She was wearing the same clothes (other than her jacket) and she walked onto the deck with her hands in exactly the same position as when she walked out onto the ice. She is gone from this world but for her it was a considered decision and she has said appropriate goodbyes to everyone
She went to Hawaii
I think she went to go live with the nomads
If she had died why was she in the next scene on the deck? I never considered that she died. Finally got out of Ennis, a poisoned landscape. The better question is why is anyone still there.
I have appreciated your nuisance in recapping and analyzing this series. With that being said, this "season" of True Detective was TERRIBLE. The writing was at times nonsensical; the shoehorning of season 1 easter eggs was pathetic; and the detectives were not adept or True.
What about the Hawaii mug? I’d like to think she’s in Hawaii and sent Liz that mug
Yeah it feels like that could well be the case!
Yeah, that mug wasn't a random choice by the set decorator. It meant something.
This was one of the most tedious seasons of television ever produced. I could not even bother at the end to speculate as to what the audience were supposed to think happened to Navarro...
I just knew they would rush the last episode as soon as I found out how many episodes their were I just knew it should have been at least 8 episodes long. I did enjoy this season but had no idea they referenced the first season. it was 10 yrs ago ffs.
People that love this season obviously haven't seen S1...... THE SUPERIOR SHOW Hands DOWN
Season 1 is unbeatable!
Loved the series ❤ except for the ending , wanted more 😢
Just read there will be a season 5 and Issa Lopez will be doing it. Yay!
All of the other characters walked away naked. Navarro didn’t seem to want to do that, instead looked to starting over somewhere else. Her being on the deck might’ve been a vision that you saw throughout the movie, a hallucination symptom from the polluted water…
great coverage! i think navarro is alive
Thanks a lot! Yeah same here
i liked Night Country...but it wasn't well executed. The show really should have just stood on its own rather than be a "True Detective." What I decided in the end is that there absolutely is a supernatural element and that Ennis is absolutely haunted. Is Evangaline alive? In a manner, yes. I think she walked out onto the ice, into the waters and lives on as one of the ghosts of Ennis. Her arc is closed and she moved on. But did the show successfully communicate that? Not really. The show had interesting concepts and its heart in the right place, it just didn't weave the threads together.
or...
perhaps she walked out onto the ice and offered herself to sedna and Sedna didn't want her?
She mysteriously walked off into the snow. So mysterious. In the end, she was the True Detective.
But what did anyone actually detect?
hahahahahaha Navaro a true detective, this show was absolutely sh1111et
What it means it this season was garbage. This is the stupidest thing HBO have produced since season 8 of GoT. And the people are split…..the majority consensus is it SUCKED!!!
Season 1 was PHENOMENAL, Season 2 best part was the actors, Season 3 was the plot. It all came around in the end.
Season 4 was good but could have been better. The actors were good but the plot could've been more thought out. IMO.
This explanation was still a bit superficial. You are not consediring the inuit culture and their belive system as part of the story.
You must understand that Navarro is actually looking for connection with her own inuit culture. She cares a lot for the women of her town. Her famlily curse turned out to be a gift, as she can visit the night country. It's not until she learns her real unuit name that everything clicks for her. Her leavig the grid is just a representation of how she finally has embraced her roll in her community( she is now a Shamman and will live in the caves) and her gift (she is a bridge between the living and the dead).
Now, sice the series is grounded in reality, somethings are better to be left unexplain. But the clues and hints are there.
yeah, makes sence. what a bullshit tho
She is alive
I was so hoping Liz's mug was going to be a Big Hug Mug
Maybe it was all about the true detecting we did along the way...
In the interview, the officers said people have spotted her.
Yes - because people in Ennis see ghosts
I liked it
10/10
I believe the last shot is to show the 2 are connected spirituality.
Never explained….
Twist n shout?
Who was running in Tsalal in episode 1
The tongue ?
I think Navarro is alive. Remember the cleaner said the spirit decides if you return or not. She came bak. But was able to leave finally from Alaska, free of her demons. Where did she go? Hawaii. That's why they kept showing that cup at the end, when the cops interviewing her asked where she may be, she subconsciously covered the Hawaii design.
So what was going on with that whole Xmas tree thing at the dredge? Did Otis set that up? Why was Navarro’s ears bleeding?
Yeah I wondered the same thing. they never explained that. In the next episode Navarro was fine and no one discussed that she was bleeding from her ears. Wouldn’t Liz have taken her to the ER?
I saw someone speculate that if you believe some of the supernatural stuff was real, it could be due to Sedna/spirit/ghost of Annie trying to control her or communicate with her. Apparently in an interview the writer confirmed Sedna (kids drawing of a woman with bleeding hands was part of the story, but may not have been too specific beyond that. Just passing that along in case it makes sense to you guys.
@@p-forest yeah I know Sedna was semi-woven throughout the show, but the Xmas tree was a tangible thing, Danvers saw it too.
@@dls31070 what caused the ear bleeding? It happened to Navarro and the dead scientists. I know the eyes frostbitten, not burned separately as the show implied.
The ears bleeding is due to “listening” to the spirit. A science explanation could be from exposure to extreme coldness.
i love this season！so powerful the power of the mother nature and the every female character. I love season 1 and I love season 2 and I love season 4!!!!!!
The ending felt rushed. Why not 8 episodes like all the other TDs?
Yeah I wish there was more!
I don't believe Navarro is dead mainly because of what Liz said at the end. "you won't see her on the ice." Sedna didn't take her; she was triumphant over evil and death. I do believe she lives in the cross between the living and ghost realm. When Liz played the tape of the scientist's confession, did you notice that his clothes were clean? Both. Russ and that scientist stated that time is a loop (don't have the exact phrase). I believe that Navarro was able to enter that stream at will at any time. This is why she was able to get the confession and be seen by people at various times.
I think many are over thinking. She lived and came back to visit.
I think Liz and Navarro loved each other...not in a romantic sense but that of a deep friendship that grew over time as they began facing difficult and challenging events together...and maybe one reason Navarro chose life over death...
How did she find out her real name? Was that just a vision?
Why did they torture Clark by making him listen to her die on an loop? As far as they knew he didn't kill her. Why did they torture him?
Travis was just crazy 😂