What Is The Best Way to Make a Rabbet Joint | Woodworking
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this video I will show you three ways to make a woodworking rabbet joint. All methods have their advantages and disadvantages and can be used in many woodworking projects. Below I have listed the tools I used for making the rabbets. Please comment below if you have any questions.
First:
We will use a single bade to make a rabbet. This is ideal for someone who is on a budget. It is not ideal but it gets the job done. It however leaves small channels or grooves.
Second:
We will use a dado blade to make a rabbet. This is the preferred method and gives you a clean cut.
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Third:
We will use a router and a router table to make a rabbet. This is the most expensive option and provides the cleanest cut.
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I have some feedback for you. 1. Use push sticks and/or blocks, not worth losing limbs or fingers. 2. Use protective eyewear, the carbide blade tips can detach from the blade and shoot like a bullet to your face. 3. When pushing material through the router, you need to push it against the router bit rotation direction, that way you have control, otherwise the spinning router bit can dig/bite into the material and yank it through unintentionally which can also be dangerous. So in your video, you should have pushed the material from left to right. Even better and safer would be to recess the router bit between and next to the two fences, so the bit is behind the workpiece, then push the workpiece right to left, much safer.
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As someone who has almost injured her kids with a flying piece of wood (it missed, but wend across the street into the neighbor’s back yard) and helped a neighbor as she went through 2 YEARS of surgeries and rehabilitation to fix the damage a table saw did to her hand: I 100% agree. PLEASE take safety seriously! Even little Mistakes around these machines can be costly!
Had my first router table mishap recently. It's an awesome tool but certainly one to be respected no different than the table saw. I made myself stand at the table and dry run until I figured out what happened and of course, it's the direction you mention. I plan on not doing that again haha.
Glad you are ok
My father lost the end of his finger making a climb cut on the router just like the one you did. It was very painful and then he had to clean up the blood bone and tissue all over his shop.
Yes, definitely use the push sticks.. So many people are very impressionable.....
thank you for the feedback.
yes, yes and yes
This was an awesome how to video. You simplified it pretty good.
Thanks glad it was helpful
We thank you for such an important video that is very easy to understand, I congratulate you.
So nice of you, glad it helped you.
I got a router and table at a garage sale for less then 10 bucks its cheap as hell but gets the job done. Thanks for this video great work!
Glad to help
You can also use a table saw to make one vertical pass and one horizontal pass.
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Great video for the novice! 👍
I usually use a straight router bit and a clamped fence - no router table required. It's simpler than a table saw w/rabbit blades and can be done in the field. If the material isn't wide enough for a plain (board) fence then a two-board 'jig'/fence is needed, one board the same thickness as your material.
If I'm at home I do have a (cheap but bolted on) router table that I use. But, again, I use a simple straight bit.
A side comment ... rabbit joints are good 'training' cuts for the router novice. If you do -slightly- burn the board, no one's going to see it. ;->
Thanks for sharing, great stuff.
Another method would be to make one long cut down the side of the board at the depth and space you want the lip from the edge, then after making that cut, flip the board up on it's side edge, adjust the blade depth and make a cut all the way along the side edge, thus completing the rabbet cut. This method makes a very clean rabbet.
That is a good method...thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Philip. I will be doing a rabbit joint for some drawers I'm making for my table saw stand. Wish me luck!
Have fun!
Nice comparison of techniques.
Thank you!
You mention the increased cost associated with the router method resulting from having to purchase a router table, etc. But you didn't mention the increased cost using the table saw, after all you need to purchase a table saw to begin with. Just trying to keep things apples to apples.
Good point and catch. :)
The tablesaw is the powerhouse of the shop.
Agree
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Yeah that's the biggest cost, the DeWalt DWE7485 cant even carry a dado stack, so check before you buy people, check the table saw your getting can carry/do them.
Excellent tutorial, Philip.
Thank you
You can add cardboard to the fence instead of adjusting the fence that could go out of square
That could work too
You can also use a router without the router table. I prefer the router table but you can freehand the rabbet with a router
Good to know thanks
Rabbet plane... may take some time to perfect, but cheap tool investment [especially with a refurbished plane]
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Hi Philip. Do you have any thoughts on the merits (or otherwise) of making rabbet joints using a Handheld router with the appropriate bit ? They come at a decent price point and a portable.
I thought about using a hand held router. The only reason I didn't do it is I couldn't figure out a way to do it safely. You would need to properly secure the wood and run the router bit along the edge. I simply didn't do enough research to figure out the best way to do it. Maybe I will figure it out and do a future video.
My dado blade is comprised of only two blades with 2 circular wedge shaped inner pieces which cause the blades to touch on one side (lets say the bottom just as an example) while the "upper" side is seperated by whatever width I set it to by turning the circular wedges.. The wedges have a high side and a low side and when the high sides come towards each other they cause the seperation between the blades to grow wider on one "side" while the other "side" remains together. This is necessary, as we need the cut to start small and grow outwards. Yes it is patented 😀
interesting.
you can just clamp the board to the table and use a rabett bit in the router with a bearing on it.
thanks for the suggestion
This is great because you actually get the cleanest cut, the height adjustment is quicker, and you can do it with only a router and any flat surface (no need for a router table, which is large and frequently costs more than the tool itself).
Thanks for the info
Another method, and does great rabbets, is with a jointer.
Good suggestion
Can you use a router without a table and a straight end for a fence?
Yes you could however you would need to securer the router or the material to something...does that make since?
Oh, I thought my router table method was something I stumbled across. Didn’t realize that was the preferred way to do it. I don’t have the room for a table saw so I’ve learned how to do everything with my router table.
All you need in my opinion is a table saw, miter saw, and a jig saw.... and a sander of course.
Might not be the fastest way to get the job done, but it’s the most idiot proof and requires the least amount of equipment. I also find router tables safer than table saws.
Nice there is truth in your approach
you say you only need a table saw, miter saw and jig saw but you dont have a table saw. How do you rip with a router? What about a radial arm saw?
Radial arm saw would be dangerous
@@ScreamingEagleFTW radial arm saws are a limited and outdated piece of equipment
But, while impractical, you can rip cut with a router. I’d say a cheap circular saw would be better, but in a pinch with limited resources, I’ve used a router to rip plywood to dimension before. It wastes a 1/4 of material but it’s not difficult
Good to know
The first method but saw on edge, then on face
That is a method I should have included
What about using a Flat Top Blade on the table saw? Wouldn't that give better results for the single blade method?
That method could work
The spinning router bit looked the most dangerous, especially upside down on a table. That scared me. I think the Dado blade is the way to go. Just buy a dado blade and don't make multiple cuts with a single blade - it is a terrible finish.
Dado blade runs $50 on Amazon, and the Diablo Dado is $104.
Thank you for a good video. It was very enlightening to see the rough effect of single blade.
Definitely not going that route with time consuming adjustments to the fence.
If you are teaching on UA-cam, wear goggles, and use a pushstick. This is not smart. You could lose your fingers or eyes in a nano second and then wish for the rest of your life to be able to stop the clock and rewind to that moment before, and do it differently. Don't have those regrets. Just wear the gear everyone tells you to wear. We survived extinction because we listened to others and worked as a team with collective knowledge and experience. If someone else had that experience, make it your own and learn before you have to relive the bad parts of human history again. I think a stop block on fence would be good too.
Thank you for the comment and feedback.
Dat Datto looks best
Agree
Please remember that you are likely talking to people that are new to woodworking. The lack of PPE, at minimum safety glasses and push sticks is alarming and never, never climb cut using a router if you can at all help it.
I guess that I don’t really wear shoes would be a problem too 😜
Great vid. How do you prevent any tear out with soft knotty pine?
I try to stay away from knotty pine
Hmm rabbet.
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Additional methods, rabbit plane, electric plane, handheld router.
Thanks for the ideas
What about rebate plane?
I am not sure I know what a rebate plane is.
@@HowYouCanMakeIt Rabbet plane over the pond
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Luckily none of these three methods are needed to do a rabbit. You can just use a circular saw.
you could use that as well a bit more challenging.
Best and easiest and cheapest is table saw with just two passes. First pass on the side the other pass on the face and voila
Yeah, I should have added that as a method. thanks for the comment, cheers!
can you explain that any other way? I am missing a key point.
One pass cuts one groove and the other cuts it out as you turn the wood on the edge
"daddo"
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What kind of blade do you use with the router to make them
I need to check can’t remember
@@HowYouCanMakeIt okay I'm going to build some beatboxes and I need to cut rabbits in the corners to put the box together and I ain't never done it before so I figured if I knew what I needed it would make it easier
For dado blade, do you simply put multiple blades together or do they have to be specific blades? Also, do you add as many blades as you need to get the desired width?
The set comes with several blades to make your cut as wide as you need
A dado blade is actually a set. The set comes with two outer blades, several chippers, several spacers and some shims. Normally it also comes with a table telling you how many of each to use to get a specific width dado.
4th method rebate/planer
Noted!
Any wood worker worth his salt builds his own router tables and such..
I would disagree. Why spend time marking one when you can spend time making products and furniture that you can sell. It all comes down to what your woodworking goals are. A wood workers worth and value shouldn’t be wrapped up in his or her tools and such.
@@HowYouCanMakeIt Sorry but I have to disagree with that comment Philip, the whole point of your video is to teach and advise your audience, so your presumeing the viewer has no or little experience with Rabbits or Dado's, so making router tables with draws and doors and Jigs for making Dado's and rabbits all goes to the experience of producing good quality work. Basically if your going to make a mistake better to do on your own stuff in your own time, than be under the hammer trying to produce a product for a customer with expensive lumber on a table you have no experience using, trying to make something you have no real expertise in producing.
It all depends on what your goal is a woodworker
Pushing the wrong way into the router 😬😬😬😬
I know I realized it after the fact
Invest in a push stick...
Yeah I need one
What about the quality of a Rabbet using a jointer?
That would work as well. I don't have a jointer so I couldn't personally test it.
I use my jointer and it works great.
Awesome
??? Since when do you "NEED" a router table to make a rabbet
It is just an option not a need 😁
last time I checked my router table was way less than a table saw and dado stack...just sayin!
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Man, you are using the router the wrong way. The tool should be on the right side of the cut, not the left. You are asking for trouble for no good reason.
Thanks. I always get my right and left mixed up
I'm new to this and trying to learn. Are you saying that the piece shouldn't be between the cutting head and the fence? or that he fed it through the bit in the wrong direction? Thanks.
Wrong direction of the spinning bit
Your comment is correct: what he used is called a climbing cut, but the issue that can occur with the workpiece on the correct side is that the rabbet, being cut on the bottom side of the stock, allows the workpiece to droop inwards toward the fence. One would need a square dowel whose height is the same as the height of the rabbet on the outfeed side to prevent droop. And it cannot be wider than the rabbet width. This would be great if you're doing a lot of these but for a single piece, it would be a lot of work.
The dado (isn't it pronounced "daydo"?) blade method seems to be the most reliable for a good result.
However, a hand-held router is fairly simple to get a good result. You'd use a rabbeting bit with a bearing. Clamp it to a large piece or your workbench and clamp another piece of the same thickness in front of it about a bit diameter away to keep the router from drooping. You'll have to remove the clamps as you approach them so double the clamps so that the geometry doesn't change when you've removed a clamp and relocated it to where you've just cut. Sort-of like leap frog. Need lots of clamps: like four on the workpiece and two on the extra piece.
@@Jacob_180 always feed right to left on the router table and don't trap the workpiece between the bit and the fence, nor between the bottom side of the cutter and the table.
Wouldn’t a hand held router be the cheapest?
it might...but clamping the wood down to safely cut the channel would be challenging.
You say dado I say dadoe... tomato tomatoe
Haha
Its pronounced daydo not dado lol
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Huh? The most expensive method? I have a router and table that I paid $400 for. I couldn’t touch a decent table saw for that. Even a jobsite saw. You must be assuming everyone already owns a table saw. I don’t and don’t want one.
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Way too chipper, my guy.
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