Once upon a time, there was a runt who took nearly 3 months to walk properly, as Dopey did. He wasn't a preemie, just a weakling. This is a story of how nature had proven Mr AM wrong.....
Go back and look @33:00, imo, it appears that Bobbin's lips have a blue tint. He could have had some kind of heart issue and circulation issue. Just a thought. Martha is a good momma, over protective, but a good momma. I believe she knew that something (whatever) wasn't right with Bobbin. All of us can play armchair quarterback and speculate but I i don't believe Martha mistreated him. For the ones that have been watching AM for years, with his educating us along the way, things in their natural environment, habitat, will happen that no one has control over. It is what it is. I believe Bobbin had a good little life and knew he was loved. Like I said, all of this is just my opinion. Waiting for part II Love and hugs to my Monkey Hill Family from Virginia Beach VA ❤️❤️❤️
@@lourdeshernandez3710 thank you. Just my thoughts, from my heart. We are one big happy family here, the Monkey Hill Family, we voice our thoughts and opinions with respect for everyone. We don't always agree with each other BUT we respect each other. Anyone coming on here blasting us and/or especially AM will hear from me. They can troll another channel. Love all of you and I love AM.
even though he was small he seemed to be alert, very active, and curiously exploring at a few days old. His personality is calm and I can see his mom is the one being clingy when he wants to explore. Is her rank on the low side? Or has she had a traumatic loss of a baby previously? Something has her anxious when he isn't in physical contact with her or when other monkeys approach. It looks like his brother Button is a tiny one too...they are both calm and very cute. After a few visits it's quickly apparent he has some failure to thrive going on. He is small like his brother but he also doesn't seem to have a huge appetite and isn't demanding in the least. I don't think the baby made a sound more than one time the entire video either, how odd is that? How often does a baby monkey not have a gripe about something? Lol. But you can see on the baby where she holds him...around the legs and hips, which could be why those muscles are the weakest because she won't let him use his hips or back legs for more than a few steps. It could be atrophy of some sort. Also who is the other juvenile monkey that follows? It must be an older sibling, the year before Button, so mom does produce viable offspring that are well adjusted.
Bobbin couldn't have been born from a better mom. Martha is an excellent seasoned mother. Babies always come along in their own time... Bobbins story is one about patience, trust, faith & a mother's love. 🐒❤️
I believe these moms know when something isn't right with their babies. Martha knew he was sick in some way and gave him all the love an attention he needed. You can see it in his eyes something wasn't right. Poor baby
Poor Bobbin couldn’t get away from the clingons. 😳 Every time he got away to stretch his little legs someone came up and grabbed him. He was sure a cutie.🥰 And brother Button was as cute as a button .☺️
Thank you, so very much. Thank you . May God bless you, for all your love shown for these remarkable animals. I have expressed to my family to come and visit Monkey hill before I died.
Thanks for the memories AM. Bobbin was really an odd case. He wasn’t malnourished. He had access to the milk bar, and could eat solid food. Martha doted on him a lot, never letting him out of her sight or grasp. She never let him exercise or work his legs. That plus maybe there was something about his digestive system that he couldn’t get enough nutrients from his intake, so he digressed. He got skinnier. He didn’t walk, he didn’t climb, he didn’t even make any noise. No geks or hoots: nothing! Poor little guy.
Maybe Martha was to protective Bobbin couldn't build muscle she wouldn't let him go to learn but Martha could have known there was a problem with her baby from birth .
I remember Bobbin. He seem to have the saddest eyes. I also remember Martha did not seem keen on nursing him. I remember sadly the video of you reporting his death which unfortunately was not a surprise.
As some others have pointed out, even though Martha could be rough with him at times, if you go back and watch the original videos she is anything but a bad mom. She's protective and caring and allows him to nurse frequently, I just think she had some bad days here and there. It seems as though he was just physically underdeveloped due to some overlying condition and Martha did her best but also understood something was wrong. It could also be due to Martha having a low milk supply, since Bobette (her child right after Bobbin) died from lack of nutrition.
But he tried so hard. And apparently could suckle frequently. I’m in love with this little one, even though I know this isn’t going to end well😢 Was her milk not sufficient? He was feeding often. Button seemed to be in good condition.
Bobbin always looked like a little old man who carried the weight of the world on his shoulders. I miss that sweet baby face. Poor Martha had terrible luck with babies for a long time.
Martha must be the most stoic and unfazed of all the mothers. Far from the more indifferent others we have watched. Looking at it from a developmental lens with these two - I noticed that we didn’t hear his “mom cry” at all during all that footage. He never experienced the brief insecurity of a moment of separation enough to cry. That exercises his little lungs and whole body to feel that brief moment of urgency and act on it. Such a unique dynamic at work.
The little fellow don't get as much milk as the other babys due to his mum only having one breast,so he may be a little mounurished and mum seems overprotective not letting him explore and play with the other babies so he can get more exercise to help him gain balance and strength.
Hi Arroz, it’s been awhile! Your videos are still great. Forgot about little Bobbin but I think he was so weak and not developing normally because he was not getting enough nourishment from his moms milk. Although she kept putting him on the back of the bus, she seemed to be a great mom.
I’m not sure why anybody would say that Martha was not a good mom. It was very evident she had a sickly baby and the reason she wasn’t carrying him on her belly as much I don’t think he could hold on, it’s less on the baby to be on the back. I think she was a very protective mom just like we would be if we had a sickly baby. Take a look at gypsy if you want to see a bad mom.
Gypsy has problems we don't see, or we see and choose not to look at. She has Postpartum issues and lack of food where she is at the bottom of the totem pole. Same as the poor folk, sometimes we don't know why some people hurt or be malicious to their children. People are comparing monkeys to humans and we in fact are a whole different species
@@BrittanyBuckland-yr8pc Martha is living off of instinct alone that’s what animals do and she knew she had a sickly baby and that’s why she’s being over protective I don’t see her being a bad mom whatsoever I just am not sure where people are seeing that.
I believe the little guy ain't getting near enough nourishment from his mum who looks half starved herself and only having one breast bobbin isn't getting near milk with her not letting him nurse as long as he wants to ,and mum holding him back from everything doesn't help either ,I thinks she's causing his clinginess as well.
Martha really likes to throw them babies kinda on her hip. And Bobbin may not have the zig zag bounce off the walls temperament... but you could see him curious wanting to check things out. But Martha seems a little overly protective with him. Anytime he tries waddling off she grabs him and checks to see if his pecker is still there. Yep it is, then pulls him in and he's not getting exercise like the others. He just needed to explore more and I think he would have been stronger and less wobbly. Poor guy, he was cute as hell!
Bobbin looked so healthy at just a few days old and strong and quite strong. I think Martha’s milk wasn’t good, it didn’t contain enough nutrients and she didn’t let him drink much. At times it seemed Bobbin wasn’t getting any milk. He’d try patting her breast and then he’d stop trying to nurse. Martha looks pale to me and has so many reddish bug bites on her face. Maybe she’s anemic? I think Bobbin knew somehow that he wasn’t going to make it.
Was this the year they had huge baby losses from an odd snow storm that came in the middle of birthing season? 50:55 You can see Martha has several years of offspring here, along with button being the next youngest after Bobbin. They all seem healthy and relaxed. 53:07 It is cute watching him sit and share a snack with 2 older brothers, besides Button it seems
I think Bobbin had an underlying health issue unknown,and he didn't suckle like most babies,no milk comma , he appeared to briefly hold teat in mouth than off as not interested
Yep the one at 24:57 to 25:08 is a good example. Another one at 27:25. Just very weak all the way around. His face does also kinda look like Calvin’s if you’re aware of those monkey channels. Right out of the oven he just has that….non inquisitive face.
I am about halfway done with the video but it appears like Martha was really controlling his milk bar from the 1st week. Imo that was likely the reason he fell so far behind. At least by the footage I've seen so far. She has blocked and pulled him off the nipple 3 to 4x already
IMO she sensed something was off about him and decided he wasn’t worth the energy to raise. Week 2 you can definitely tell he’s not all there. Week 3 he’s riding on back and sides. Martha does seem to hold him awkwardly quite often in the first few weeks. She does make several attempts at walking away from him to get him to practice walking. Strangely we don’t see him throwing any severe tantrums which is really unusual. He just kind of…existed.
@ericklein5097 after finishing the video she did seem to allow him more milk bar visits. I agree something is off with him. I am guessing winter will be his end though. He has not gotten a winter coat at all by September
@PamPreston78 ~ A runt just means much smaller than average size (and is usually much weaker, as well). It doesn't have to be in a litter setting. I believe the typical baby Rhesus Macaque weighs 21-24 ounces at birth. Say Bobbin only weighed 17 ounces at birth, that would make him a runt even though he was the only baby born to Martha.
I think his mum should also be introducing him to food that the other babies are eating as well she needs to encourage him more with being like the other monkeys his age,and mum doesn't help at all by holding him back from everything as well,mum isn't helping in his development by doing so either,I can't help but feel sorry for the adorable sweet tiny little feĺlow.
In the animal world if something is wrong with the baby most mothers do not take care of them feed them etc and let nature take its course its just the way of nature to run its course its the way of life so her taking care of him as long she did is rare only the strong survive
ive known some people like this in real life it dosent matter what you say to them or tempt them with or threten them with they only have 1 speen slow.and your never going to get any other speed out of them they are just stuck on slow and thats it thats all
I don’t think she’s letting him drink enough and only has one breast he can drink from. Why don’t mothers help their babies get food? The mothers never share their food either and when they toss it they move on so the babies don’t get to eat much, if any, of the edible parts that may remain.
@@debvit2353we had some severe thunderstorms come through, dropping a bunch of damaging hail. Too soon to tell if we have any. Several neighbors did, but no one was injured.
Martha was very protective of Bobbin. He developed slowly and moved even more slowly. He was just coming into his own and Martha was allowing him independent playtime when he suddenly disappeared. He was so undersized that he may have fallen prey to a predator, such as a large hawk.
Damn he sure was one of the cutest babies I've ever seen. His back end, his and thighs looked very thin and under developed. But if he wandered further then 3 ft Martha scooped him up. And the whole clip hear I only heard him make noise a few times and it was when she got more then 3 ft from him. He'd freak out, but I kinda blame her for always scooping him up and not letting him roam. Such a sad story. Specially when you see annoying babies with no boundaries into everything and kinda disrespectful and then his amazing sweet and innocent little demeanor. Yet we lost his little soul.
Hmmmmmmm 🤔 When a baby his age comes up missing, well hello....guess he went to Grandma's and decided to stay. AND AM does NOT put the ads in they are automatic.
@@aushaheart8258 yes he does. He has the option of selecting the number of adds that can appear in his videos. Remember this video runs for 57 mins. I have seen more adds in some of the Cambodian videos that AM has in his.
Where's the proof and scientific research? Please cite us the research that states all monkey mothers, and especially rhesus mothers, are bad mothers? I want to dee scientific research from you since you make that blanket, and quite frankly, ignorant statement. Yes, there are a few that seem to have some quirks and have issues. Yet, we are unsure why they have issues. For the most, though, with the 3 main followers of these troops, they have observed loving, caring, gentle mothers who have reared most of their babies to adulthood. Most of these moms have reared daughters, which, in turn, are good loving moms, too. Some of these moms are into 3 generations of well- reared babies. The few that we would call questionable (I refuse to refer them as bad) may have some physiological or biological issues, but none are bad. Also, remember, these are wild animals and know nothing of the human morals, values, or polite society rules we try to project on them. Their society is way beyond our understanding. Let's discuss some of these so-called bad moms: 1. Nora - some hate her. Others have called for her death or sterilization. Yet to do that could harm her troop as she is matriarch it is speculated that she suffers some physical ailment when her milk comes in, so it is painful for her. Maybe her nipples are so sensitive, and suckling puts her in excruciating pain. Maybe she suffers PPD. Yet, Nora has successfully raised babies to adulthood and has a successor. Is it disheartening, painful, and heartbreaking to see. Definitely, through our human lens. Yet, as a human that suffers mental health issues, there are times I know I should do something to control it, snap out of my depression, but am powerless to do so without chemical help. Monkeys don't have that luxury. They must deal with it constantly.. 2. Floffi and Fozzie - it was said that these sisters were awful as they let Bo kidnap and ultimately starve their babies. Bo is bigger, a bully, and also a matriarch's daughter. These 2 were new moms, unsure of themselves. Now, Floffi has a beautiful daughter she protected and is thriving. Hopefully, Fozzi learns and can protect her next infant. 3. Gypsy - Gypsy can seem harsh and gets babysitters when her babies are young. Gypsy is one of the lowest ranking imoms n the troop. She eats last and the scraps. She probably has to forage most of the day. IMO, what we may think is allowing babysitting is actually kidnapping. Yet, if any of her kids are in trouble, no matter the age, she is a ferocious defender of them. She plucks them, yes, but I've observed that she does this with adults too. That's her way. She doesn't allow a lo5 of time nursing, but her offspring are wonderful foragers and quit self-sufficient. Gypsy has raised many successful, surviving offspring and now is a grandmother. 4 Tina - she is the saddest one of all. People were so very upset that she raided her kids' pouches. It was upsetting to us. Yet Tina, like Gypsy is lowest in the hierarchy. She was still nursing when she did this. She needs food to produce milk. It is only just recently speculated that she has trouble producing milk, and what she does is very inferior and not good enough to help the baby thrive. Yet, she carried her babies and allowed them access to the milk bar longer than most moms do. She has succssfully raised offspring, too. These are not bad mothers. They are doing what their instincts, knowledge, experience, and training have taught them. In our eyes, it may seem harsh, bad, and yes, cruel. But to them, it's survival. It's what they learned and perhaps feel. They can't tell usand we can only observe and speculate in wonder; not criticism. They are not human. They are their own lovely, fascinating creatures. If we wish to observe them, we should do so with wonder, awe, thankfulness, and definitely without criticism and condemnation. I apologize for the rant, but I get angry at the anthromorphation and projection of human qualities on these beautiful wild creatures.
Martha is always blocking him from the milk bar and making him ride side saddle or on her back instead of under her belly. She is so mean to him. I don’t think she wanted a baby this year. Poor Bobbin!
Bobbin was born in 2017 and Martha was very protective and loving toward him. Go back and watch the original videos that featured him and you'll see. As for riding him side-saddle, Martha did that with all her babies .
She's missing a nipple and so he's probably not going to be able to get the amount of nutrients he needs to develop properly. Maybe she lost it in a fight or one of her other babes bite it off. Who knows? 🤷🏼♀️What I do know is that it is missing a nipple is missing
I honestly though this comment was being sarcastic!! She was AMAZING to him in this video. Sure she was overly protective but it turned out just fine. I still kinda think you gave to be joking?? If not sorry but bad mom she was not.
He seems to have plenty of access to the milk bar to me from this video. Martha stands back and encourages him to walk before scooping him up. At least that's what I'm seeing the first couple of weeks or so. He does look a bit disabled in those back legs though.
Thanks AM,another great tale. I can't wait for the next episode. God Bless and take care
Go back and look @33:00, imo, it appears that Bobbin's lips have a blue tint. He could have had some kind of heart issue and circulation issue. Just a thought. Martha is a good momma, over protective, but a good momma. I believe she knew that something (whatever) wasn't right with Bobbin. All of us can play armchair quarterback and speculate but I i don't believe Martha mistreated him. For the ones that have been watching AM for years, with his educating us along the way, things in their natural environment, habitat, will happen that no one has control over. It is what it is. I believe Bobbin had a good little life and knew he was loved. Like I said, all of this is just my opinion.
Waiting for part II
Love and hugs to my Monkey Hill Family from Virginia Beach VA ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for your kind comment💔
@@lourdeshernandez3710 thank you. Just my thoughts, from my heart. We are one big happy family here, the Monkey Hill Family, we voice our thoughts and opinions with respect for everyone. We don't always agree with each other BUT we respect each other. Anyone coming on here blasting us and/or especially AM will hear from me. They can troll another channel. Love all of you and I love AM.
even though he was small he seemed to be alert, very active, and curiously exploring at a few days old. His personality is calm and I can see his mom is the one being clingy when he wants to explore. Is her rank on the low side? Or has she had a traumatic loss of a baby previously? Something has her anxious when he isn't in physical contact with her or when other monkeys approach. It looks like his brother Button is a tiny one too...they are both calm and very cute.
After a few visits it's quickly apparent he has some failure to thrive going on. He is small like his brother but he also doesn't seem to have a huge appetite and isn't demanding in the least. I don't think the baby made a sound more than one time the entire video either, how odd is that? How often does a baby monkey not have a gripe about something? Lol. But you can see on the baby where she holds him...around the legs and hips, which could be why those muscles are the weakest because she won't let him use his hips or back legs for more than a few steps. It could be atrophy of some sort.
Also who is the other juvenile monkey that follows? It must be an older sibling, the year before Button, so mom does produce viable offspring that are well adjusted.
Thank You for sharing this beautiful video.Such precious babies with a wonderful mom.❤❤❤
Bobbin couldn't have been born from a better mom. Martha is an excellent seasoned mother. Babies always come along in their own time... Bobbins story is one about patience, trust, faith & a mother's love. 🐒❤️
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Thank you for your beautiful video. ❤
I believe these moms know when something isn't right with their babies. Martha knew he was sick in some way and gave him all the love an attention he needed. You can see it in his eyes something wasn't right. Poor baby
I agree. That could explain why Martha seemed overly protective. She knew something was wrong and was doing the best she could to keep him safe.
His back legs seem wobbly. He was just born sickly
Dopey was a runt too. Couldn't walk till almost 2 months old.
Poor Bobbin couldn’t get away from the clingons. 😳 Every time he got away to stretch his little legs someone came up and grabbed him. He was sure a cutie.🥰 And brother Button was as cute as a button .☺️
Thank you, so very much. Thank you . May God bless you, for all your love shown for these remarkable animals. I have expressed to my family to come and visit Monkey hill before I died.
Oh those eyes 😍I melt.
Thanks for the memories AM. Bobbin was really an odd case. He wasn’t malnourished. He had access to the milk bar, and could eat solid food. Martha doted on him a lot, never letting him out of her sight or grasp. She never let him exercise or work his legs. That plus maybe there was something about his digestive system that he couldn’t get enough nutrients from his intake, so he digressed. He got skinnier. He didn’t walk, he didn’t climb, he didn’t even make any noise. No geks or hoots: nothing! Poor little guy.
I just wonder if Martha suspected something that we can't see about her baby
I expect so, i think thats why she looks like she's being rough with him, to try and toughen him up so he could survive
Maybe Martha was to protective Bobbin couldn't build muscle she wouldn't let him go to learn but Martha could have known there was a problem with her baby from birth .
Momma knows there's something wrong with those back legs .....😢
I remember Bobbin. He seem to have the saddest eyes. I also remember Martha did not seem keen on nursing him. I remember sadly the video of you reporting his death which unfortunately was not a surprise.
As some others have pointed out, even though Martha could be rough with him at times, if you go back and watch the original videos she is anything but a bad mom. She's protective and caring and allows him to nurse frequently, I just think she had some bad days here and there.
It seems as though he was just physically underdeveloped due to some overlying condition and Martha did her best but also understood something was wrong. It could also be due to Martha having a low milk supply, since Bobette (her child right after Bobbin) died from lack of nutrition.
But he tried so hard. And apparently could suckle frequently. I’m in love with this little one, even though I know this isn’t going to end well😢
Was her milk not sufficient? He was feeding often. Button seemed to be in good condition.
He was a cutie!!! Something wasn't right! RIP Bobbin!💖💖💖
I think little Bobbin was born sick, he looks so weak. He was a beautiful baby
This is a catch up story for Me, thanks Mr.Arroz
Bobbin always looked like a little old man who carried the weight of the world on his shoulders. I miss that sweet baby face. Poor Martha had terrible luck with babies for a long time.
Yes he is gorgeous
Martha must be the most stoic and unfazed of all the mothers. Far from the more indifferent others we have watched. Looking at it from a developmental lens with these two - I noticed that we didn’t hear his “mom cry” at all during all that footage. He never experienced the brief insecurity of a moment of separation enough to cry. That exercises his little lungs and whole body to feel that brief moment of urgency and act on it. Such a unique dynamic at work.
Such a great mum Martha😊❤
Bobbin always seemed so sad. And it seems like Martha was very rough with him.
The little fellow don't get as much milk as the other babys due to his mum only having one breast,so he may be a little mounurished and mum seems overprotective not letting him explore and play with the other babies so he can get more exercise to help him gain balance and strength.
Hi Arroz, it’s been awhile! Your videos are still great. Forgot about little Bobbin but I think he was so weak and not developing normally because he was not getting enough nourishment from his moms milk. Although she kept putting him on the back of the bus, she seemed to be a great mom.
I’m not sure why anybody would say that Martha was not a good mom. It was very evident she had a sickly baby and the reason she wasn’t carrying him on her belly as much I don’t think he could hold on, it’s less on the baby to be on the back. I think she was a very protective mom just like we would be if we had a sickly baby. Take a look at gypsy if you want to see a bad mom.
Gypsy has problems we don't see, or we see and choose not to look at. She has Postpartum issues and lack of food where she is at the bottom of the totem pole. Same as the poor folk, sometimes we don't know why some people hurt or be malicious to their children. People are comparing monkeys to humans and we in fact are a whole different species
@@BrittanyBuckland-yr8pc Martha is living off of instinct alone that’s what animals do and she knew she had a sickly baby and that’s why she’s being over protective I don’t see her being a bad mom whatsoever I just am not sure where people are seeing that.
OMG, FFS, stop with the "bad" mother crap already. You are no better than the Cambodian VO'S that spread their vileness in their videos.
I love Bobbin and Bobette, Ty and Teensy. Miss them a lot, as Button, the most handsome baby ever😢
Ok, Ty, I don't want to see the end 😢
Bobbin is the CUTEST baby on Monkey Hill that I have seen to date. Oh my. Even over the other cutest, Teeny......it's close but...
So darn cute ❤❤❤❤
I was thinking the same thing about Martha unknowingly holding him back... But she really is an awesome mother!!!
Bobbin was a favorite of mine and it absolutely broke my heart when he disappeared. 💔😢
Oh nooooooo. Spoiler alert !! I think that just gave away part 2 for me.. Lol shux
I believe the little guy ain't getting near enough nourishment from his mum who looks half starved herself and only having one breast bobbin isn't getting near milk with her not letting him nurse as long as he wants to ,and mum holding him back from everything doesn't help either ,I thinks she's causing his clinginess as well.
idk if he wasn't prem he still didn't looked full done.....like the back legs aren't as well formed as the front?
Martha really likes to throw them babies kinda on her hip. And Bobbin may not have the zig zag bounce off the walls temperament... but you could see him curious wanting to check things out. But Martha seems a little overly protective with him. Anytime he tries waddling off she grabs him and checks to see if his pecker is still there. Yep it is, then pulls him in and he's not getting exercise like the others. He just needed to explore more and I think he would have been stronger and less wobbly. Poor guy, he was cute as hell!
He's so small cuz mom not feeding him like she should, poor baby
Bobbin looked so healthy at just a few days old and strong and quite strong. I think Martha’s milk wasn’t good, it didn’t contain enough nutrients and she didn’t let him drink much. At times it seemed Bobbin wasn’t getting any milk. He’d try patting her breast and then he’d stop trying to nurse. Martha looks pale to me and has so many reddish bug bites on her face. Maybe she’s anemic? I think Bobbin knew somehow that he wasn’t going to make it.
I wish mum wouldn't deprive him from nursing as long as he wants to,he looks like he's starving,hes way to skinny and its very sad to watch.
He didn’t seem to have an appetite.
Was this the year they had huge baby losses from an odd snow storm that came in the middle of birthing season?
50:55 You can see Martha has several years of offspring here, along with button being the next youngest after Bobbin. They all seem healthy and relaxed.
53:07 It is cute watching him sit and share a snack with 2 older brothers, besides Button it seems
That was the winter of 2015/2016. Dopey and Button were both born in the summer of 2016 and Bobbin came along in 2017.
I think Bobbin had an underlying health issue unknown,and he didn't suckle like most babies,no milk comma , he appeared to briefly hold teat in mouth than off as not interested
Yep the one at 24:57 to 25:08 is a good example. Another one at 27:25.
Just very weak all the way around.
His face does also kinda look like Calvin’s if you’re aware of those monkey channels. Right out of the oven he just has that….non inquisitive face.
I am about halfway done with the video but it appears like Martha was really controlling his milk bar from the 1st week. Imo that was likely the reason he fell so far behind. At least by the footage I've seen so far. She has blocked and pulled him off the nipple 3 to 4x already
IMO she sensed something was off about him and decided he wasn’t worth the energy to raise.
Week 2 you can definitely tell he’s not all there.
Week 3 he’s riding on back and sides.
Martha does seem to hold him awkwardly quite often in the first few weeks. She does make several attempts at walking away from him to get him to practice walking. Strangely we don’t see him throwing any severe tantrums which is really unusual. He just kind of…existed.
@ericklein5097 after finishing the video she did seem to allow him more milk bar visits. I agree something is off with him. I am guessing winter will be his end though. He has not gotten a winter coat at all by September
Maybe Martha isn't producing enough milk and vitamins for him like Tina and her babies.Martha is getting pretty old.
I think that the government should stop the sterilization. Every season babies die for various reason's. That should take care of itl 😢
A runt in a litter is always the smallest one. How is a baby monkey determined to be a runt?
@PamPreston78 ~ A runt just means much smaller than average size (and is usually much weaker, as well). It doesn't have to be in a litter setting. I believe the typical baby Rhesus Macaque weighs 21-24 ounces at birth. Say Bobbin only weighed 17 ounces at birth, that would make him a runt even though he was the only baby born to Martha.
@@TinyHyena1967 thank you for explaining it.
@@PamPreston78 ~ No problem. 😀
I think his mum should also be introducing him to food that the other babies are eating as well she needs to encourage him more with being like the other monkeys his age,and mum doesn't help at all by holding him back from everything as well,mum isn't helping in his development by doing so either,I can't help but feel sorry for the adorable sweet tiny little feĺlow.
I think Martha was encouraging to walk and move. But there was something wrong with his back legs and/or hips. The baby died later on.
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Oh, that's not a good sign. She's Already cutting him off from nursing😢
In the animal world if something is wrong with the baby most mothers do not take care of them feed them etc and let nature take its course its just the way of nature to run its course its the way of life so her taking care of him as long she did is rare only the strong survive
It is pretty apparent why, in my opinion. She only is producing milk from her right breast! That could absolutely be the issue!
It seems like mum was holding him back.
ive known some people like this in real life it dosent matter what you say to them or tempt them with or threten them with they only have 1 speen slow.and your never going to get any other speed out of them they are just stuck on slow and thats it thats all
Was he a premie?
I don’t think she’s letting him drink enough and only has one breast he can drink from. Why don’t mothers help their babies get food? The mothers never share their food either and when they toss it they move on so the babies don’t get to eat much, if any, of the edible parts that may remain.
Maybe a person stole one of her babies previously to use on UA-cam? She keeps him close so no one takes him?
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Hi Deb❤
@@PamPreston78how are you Pam?
@@debvit2353we had some severe thunderstorms come through, dropping a bunch of damaging hail. Too soon to tell if we have any. Several neighbors did, but no one was injured.
@@PamPreston78oh no! We had a bad thunderstorm here too tonight. No hail though. These storms have been wild! Please take care and remain safe ❤️
Good morning 🌞
A healthy baby will wriggle and struggle to escape their mum, but little Bobbin doesn't.
They're so close to a highway
This is a side road. There are other troops close to a major highway
He had a problems from his birth poor little cutie
I think you mean complication
@@yvonneconte3040 yes I mean problems
It’s the dictionary 😟
She’s treating him like an infant. He needs to run and hop and use his muscles. This doesn’t make sense, Button seems appropriately developed.
Martha was very protective of Bobbin. He developed slowly and moved even more slowly. He was just coming into his own and Martha was allowing him independent playtime when he suddenly disappeared. He was so undersized that he may have fallen prey to a predator, such as a large hawk.
@@hollisblinn7910 😢😢he seemed to be figuring it out.
He moves like he's really weak.
I saw a channel where mother monkeys carry their dead babies around.😢
They do for a few days and then abandon them.
He didn’t feed like he should have. Slow down the learning and walking phase.
His face ,ears belly all seemed to be very pale , i wonder if he may have had vitamin deficiency, low iron
Aucune traduction en français dommage
Mom only has one teeth for the baby to nurse from. Why?
Damn he sure was one of the cutest babies I've ever seen. His back end, his and thighs looked very thin and under developed. But if he wandered further then 3 ft Martha scooped him up. And the whole clip hear I only heard him make noise a few times and it was when she got more then 3 ft from him. He'd freak out, but I kinda blame her for always scooping him up and not letting him roam. Such a sad story. Specially when you see annoying babies with no boundaries into everything and kinda disrespectful and then his amazing sweet and innocent little demeanor. Yet we lost his little soul.
How do you know if he's dead? BTW WAY TOO MANY ADS in your video!!!!
Hmmm I did not get one ad. I do not think AM can control the ads on his videos!
Hmmmmmmm 🤔
When a baby his age comes up missing, well hello....guess he went to Grandma's and decided to stay.
AND AM does NOT put the ads in they are automatic.
His channel is not monetized. The ads are strictly you tube thing. I only got 2 ads.
@@aushaheart8258 yes he does. He has the option of selecting the number of adds that can appear in his videos. Remember this video runs for 57 mins. I have seen more adds in some of the Cambodian videos that AM has in his.
Troll on to another channel if all you can do is complain
Is bobbin still alive?
Sadly no
@@ericvoltron that is sad…. Thankyou for the answer.
They are all bad mothers
Where's the proof and scientific research? Please cite us the research that states all monkey mothers, and especially rhesus mothers, are bad mothers? I want to dee scientific research from you since you make that blanket, and quite frankly, ignorant statement.
Yes, there are a few that seem to have some quirks and have issues. Yet, we are unsure why they have issues. For the most, though, with the 3 main followers of these troops, they have observed loving, caring, gentle mothers who have reared most of their babies to adulthood. Most of these moms have reared daughters, which, in turn, are good loving moms, too. Some of these moms are into 3 generations of well- reared babies.
The few that we would call questionable (I refuse to refer them as bad) may have some physiological or biological issues, but none are bad. Also, remember, these are wild animals and know nothing of the human morals, values, or polite society rules we try to project on them. Their society is way beyond our understanding. Let's discuss some of these so-called bad moms:
1. Nora - some hate her. Others have called for her death or sterilization. Yet to do that could harm her troop as she is matriarch it is speculated that she suffers some physical ailment when her milk comes in, so it is painful for her. Maybe her nipples are so sensitive, and suckling puts her in excruciating pain. Maybe she suffers PPD. Yet, Nora has successfully raised babies to adulthood and has a successor. Is it disheartening, painful, and heartbreaking to see. Definitely, through our human lens. Yet, as a human that suffers mental health issues, there are times I know I should do something to control it, snap out of my depression, but am powerless to do so without chemical help. Monkeys don't have that luxury. They must deal with it constantly..
2. Floffi and Fozzie - it was said that these sisters were awful as they let Bo kidnap and ultimately starve their babies. Bo is bigger, a bully, and also a matriarch's daughter. These 2 were new moms, unsure of themselves. Now, Floffi has a beautiful daughter she protected and is thriving. Hopefully, Fozzi learns and can protect her next infant.
3. Gypsy - Gypsy can seem harsh and gets babysitters when her babies are young. Gypsy is one of the lowest ranking imoms n the troop. She eats last and the scraps. She probably has to forage most of the day. IMO, what we may think is allowing babysitting is actually kidnapping. Yet, if any of her kids are in trouble, no matter the age, she is a ferocious defender of them. She plucks them, yes, but I've observed that she does this with adults too. That's her way. She doesn't allow a lo5 of time nursing, but her offspring are wonderful foragers and quit self-sufficient. Gypsy has raised many successful, surviving offspring and now is a grandmother.
4 Tina - she is the saddest one of all. People were so very upset that she raided her kids' pouches. It was upsetting to us. Yet Tina, like Gypsy is lowest in the hierarchy. She was still nursing when she did this. She needs food to produce milk. It is only just recently speculated that she has trouble producing milk, and what she does is very inferior and not good enough to help the baby thrive. Yet, she carried her babies and allowed them access to the milk bar longer than most moms do. She has succssfully raised offspring, too.
These are not bad mothers. They are doing what their instincts, knowledge, experience, and training have taught them. In our eyes, it may seem harsh, bad, and yes, cruel. But to them, it's survival. It's what they learned and perhaps feel. They can't tell usand we can only observe and speculate in wonder; not criticism. They are not human. They are their own lovely, fascinating creatures. If we wish to observe them, we should do so with wonder, awe, thankfulness, and definitely without criticism and condemnation.
I apologize for the rant, but I get angry at the anthromorphation and projection of human qualities on these beautiful wild creatures.
why does Martha only have one breast?
WHERE IS PART 2
It's coming.
Seems ok to me.
Martha is always blocking him from the milk bar and making him ride side saddle or on her back instead of under her belly. She is so mean to him. I don’t think she wanted a baby this year. Poor Bobbin!
Bobbin was born in 2017 and Martha was very protective and loving toward him. Go back and watch the original videos that featured him and you'll see. As for riding him side-saddle, Martha did that with all her babies .
She's missing a nipple and so he's probably not going to be able to get the amount of nutrients he needs to develop properly. Maybe she lost it in a fight or one of her other babes bite it off. Who knows? 🤷🏼♀️What I do know is that it is missing a nipple is missing
I think she was just wanting him to walk more and get stronger.
I honestly though this comment was being sarcastic!!
She was AMAZING to him in this video. Sure she was overly protective but it turned out just fine.
I still kinda think you gave to be joking?? If not sorry but bad mom she was not.
He seems to have plenty of access to the milk bar to me from this video. Martha stands back and encourages him to walk before scooping him up. At least that's what I'm seeing the first couple of weeks or so. He does look a bit disabled in those back legs though.
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