Just one point of clarification. Even with spells that don't use spell slots, this doesn't open back up multiclassing for action surge. Action surge has been reworked also, and cannot be used now to perform a 'Magic Action'. So, you could cast a spell, then action surge and take the attack action. But you can't cast a spell, action surge and then cast another spell. Also, since using a magic item is now classified as a 'Magic Action', this would be blocked too from the new action surge.
@@DM-Timothy Quicken spell also has extra rules built in to prevent it from working. If you quicken a spell you can't cast another leveled spell. Even if it doesn't use a spell slot you can't cast it in the same round as quicken spell.
@@dabeef2112 I haven't had a chance to read the text on the new Quicken, but that's what folk are saying. I think that's a good thing, probably, but it's also one more nuance that's going to make this new rule potentially harder to remember for new players, I think. Great point out, thank you! :)
One thing this ruling massively buffs is spell scrolls which obviously don't use slots and as such allow you to cast any level spells you have a scroll of while still casting a full level spell as a bonus action. Another thing is the consistency buff to a Thief rogue multiclass as a magic class to be able to activate magic items with spells as a bonus action
Cartomancer: take a spell that has a casting time of 1 action, and store it in a card to cast for free as a bonus action later. Ring of Spell Storing: cast a spell while touching the ring to store it for later, with all the DC/bonuses of the original caster. Spell Gems: similar, but specifically for spells of 1 Action or 1+ minutes, and with preset DC/bonuses. We now have a ton of fun ways to cast multiple leveled spells in a turn. --------- Question for fun. If a Fighter is grappling a Wizard while wearing a Ring of Spell Storing, does it absorb the spell automatically? _”Any creature can cast a spell of 1st through 5th level into the ring by touching the ring as the spell is cast.”_
Cartomancer in particular is seriously top tier for this. Great catch! Re Question for fun: Unfortunately not by RAW, since grappling (which should have been called grabbing) doesn't specify where you're touching them, and odds seem decent that you're not holding hands... :D Sounds like a Persuasion check and seduction when they're casting on someone else would be more suitable... ;)
Quickened Spell doesn't work with this, because it explicitly calls out that you can't use it if you cast another spell of 1st level or higher on the same turn, and you can't do so after either.
Great catch. I haven't been able to look at the new wording for Quicken yet. Assuming that they also retain the same wording on magic items that exist in 2014 that include the word "cast" then that would indeed close this loophole.
Oh interesting, so you still can't use a magic wand because it's still casting the spell using the wand. Seems like this is overall a debuff to magic users
@@jwmmitch You couldn't do so using 2014 rules, either, but I'd still say it's a minor debuff simply because of how it will restrict Silvery Barbs and Counterspell. However, it's sort of a subtle buff for classes that get free castings, and definitely adds some complication to those sorts of feats/species/class abilities.
Am I missing something here? Original wording is... When you cast a spell that has a casting time of 1 action, you can spend 2 sorcery points to change the casting time to 1 bonus action for this casting. there's nothing here restricting how you can use it. It sounds to me like you're using the '14 restriction, which would be gone.
@@SplChkPlz I haven't got my eyes on it personally, yet, but according to those who have, the 2024 Quicken includes verbiage clarifying that you can't use two leveled spells in a round, which would close the loophole.
Early 5.5e Eldritch Knight had it’s sell casting backed into its attacks, letting the Eldritch Knight cast with action surge, my be worth double checking their ability
Eldritch Knight used to be the only class able to use Action Surge to cast two leveled spells, since they replace an attack from their Attack Action with a spell. By implementing this "one spell slot per turn" rule, WotC has taken that unique ability away from Eldritch Knight. It was a brilliant use of wording to kill the interaction between Action Surge and pure Spellcasters, while preserving the interaction for the Fighter class it was meant for. Then they ruined that beauty with this rule. They should have just kept the old bonus action rule, since nerfing Action Surge already solved the issue of casters abusing Action Surge for extra spells.
I'd argue that you can still use spells for reactions, because reactions do not occur on your turn. So this absolutely does not go against anything written here, your turn ended and you are using a reaction (an entirely different resource that allows you to act outside of your turn) to act.
You can definitely still use reactions, EXCEPT as noted in the video. The only restrictions are reactions on your own turn, for instance attempting to Counterspell someone who is Counterspelling YOUR spell that you just cast on your own turn. Or using Silvery barbs with a spell slot to help YOUR spell land that you just cast on your own turn. All other uses are still valid. :)
ahhh yeah good point! I imagine it'll work for Signature spell too so 2 3rd level spells can be cast for free once per short rest. Means you could counterspell battle at least once in combat at level 20 lol, better late than never
Great point! Though the change in Quicken's wording (I messed up and missed that one) will limit some of the Sorc shenanigans, that one sounds likely to still be plausible.
@@DM-Timothy yeah, you'd just have to pick multiple bonus action spells for regular slots. might not be good for all encounters but could build some boss shredding options. also fey touched and shadow touched give you access to ANY spell book (RAW) without spell slot so you could actually pick up things like hunters mark since it works on spell attacks now.
@@mariop8852 Some restrictions apply in terms of which school of spells you can grab, but it's true, for a 1/day option to pair with your spells there are likely some fun choices out there.
@@DM-Timothy I did notice that and Hunter's mark is a bonus action enchantment 😊. Can get HM off and attack roll spell on round 1 and with quicken get 2 attacks a turn. Magic weapon also not concentration so it works really good with the new true strike.
With the aberrant mind , you can use your sorcery points to cast your psionic spells without a spell slot, so even with the new revision to quicken spell, you can still use misty step or any other bonus action spell on the same turn as long as you used the psionic spell feature. That being said that feature took a big nerf . Not only are you stuck with the spells you were given, no longer able to swap them out, but it now requires all material components,as before you didn't need them unless consumed. It no longer is uncounterable since even though you don't need the verbal or somatic you still need to grab your focus or component pouch. .
There's more than one outlier that got cancelled (not just action surge). You also now can't use your reaction on your turn to cast a spell with a spell slot if you've already done so. The most obvious example is using Silvery Barbs on an enemy spell saving throw but there are actually quite a few other scenarios involving spells like Shield or Absorb Elements.
The wierdest interaction from the 2014 version of this rule is that you could counterspell a counterspell of your action spell, but you couldnt counterspell a counterspell of your bonus action spell. And unfortunately the new version has a similar interaction (assuming you can counterspell counterspell) where whether or not you can counterspell someone counterspelling you depends on whether or not it is a free casting, which can change between two castings of the same spell.
I’m on a quest to collect every house rule on youtube, and this is another instance of the community having a vastly superior solution that the designers could not wait to bend over backwards to avoid - the failings and abuses of “1 level spell per turn” pale in comparison to the issues with this patch - I’d even take “1 spell per turn” - that would be so clean - casters weren’t hurting for power, but it’s very important to the designers that they make sure a wizard can still cast at least 2 spells per turn somehow 🤷🏿♀️ I know I’m getting heated “over a game”, but this particular game is the flagship of a hobby that means life and death for people who use it to spend time with friends and loved ones or process trauma or just find a moment of happiness in the ever bleakening existence we all endure - so now they get to puzzle, or worse argue, over this rule that doesn’t actually address the problem it’s trying to solve - this all comes back to bonus actions and the consequent 3 (or sometimes 4!) action economy that is spreading thru the hobby - meh get off my lawn! 🤦🏿♀️ anyway, great video Tim - I appreciate you pointing out this issue so I can continue using house rules for this one ❤
What do you mean, this change solves almost every outstanding issue with the old rule. Personally, I don't think the old bonus action rule was that complicated, the issue was that UA-camrs would constantly shorthand it to something that was wrong.
@@X20Adam I didn't think the old rule was terribly complicated either, but because I run game for more players than many, I can attest that it confused a lot of people anyway. This new one solves some of the old problems, and seems like it should be even more intuitive, but the outliers are even more obscure feeling now. I suspect we'll have just as many conversations about it at the table. Gotta love it! :D
We shall have to see how magic items will play into the spell slot usage rule once the DMG comes out. For all we know it is quite possible they addressed this and reworded the items- will it fall in our favor or teeter into oblivion...stay tuned...same bat channel...same bat time.
For sure, it’s definitely possible they will address it there. But I don’t think it is all that likely, because they have been doing a good job of consolidating rules and this would be a case of taking 1 rule from the 2014 book and turning it into two separate rules in two separate books.
@@DM-Timothy I suspect it is very likely they did not think forward enough on the impact of the changes. You can see it from time to time in the rules when they make an official entry, but they completely overlook what it does later down the line where it impacts features or spells or specific situations. Understandable considering the reams of rules and the number of hands that are contributing to the writing. That is what we DM's are for 😉
For a future video about the 2024 rules I would love to see your take on all the actions and interactions around the new unarmed attacks and grappling rules (how do the new rules exactly work, what can you do whilst grappling and what not, and how do they interact with abilities and feats?). For example, can you reposition a grappled creature as long as it stays within your reach, or can you only drag them behind you?
Thanks for providing this info. I think its an improvement but also a risky one. I have played with an alternative almost since my first day of DMing. "No two spells with an original aciton cost of One Action, can be cast on the same turn"
However, since the Magic Action is defined as "cast a spell, use an item, or use a magical feature", doesn't RAW shoot down those loopholes? I can easily see Mystic Arcana and these racial features counting as a "magical feature" that grants the free casting of a leveled spell that costs a spell slot. Also semantically, saying “for example etc etc” does not preclude other examples (does not mean that is the only example where the rule applies). Otherwise they would have started by saying “This means that etc etc”. Even if this is technically RAI it’s a pretty simple errata.
The wording issue is that the actual rule is: "On a turn, you can expend only one spell slot to cast a spell." Mystic arcana and racial features, etc, do not use spell slots, therefore the rule doesn't apply. The example doesn't preclude it, but the rule itself does.
@@DM-Timothy especially when you consider that the most commonly used bonus action spells are either cantrips (Shilelegh) or very readily available without spell slots (Misty Step & Hunter’s Mark)
I had been under the impression that the new rules would allow bonus action spells +action spells in the same turn as long as the bonus action spell is natively a bonus action spell (Misty step, Healing Word, Sanctuary, Shilleagle*) so I implemented this and even the sorcerer (quicken did not allow the double cast) enjoyed it. Now the new rules are out and I am not sure whether to use them or if I should stick to my original rulling, which does prevent the Wand+Scroll + quicken combo.
@@DM-Timothy Pretty mixed. many are fairly heavily optimisers, but there is a basic respect for game balance. No one is willing to pick a fight with me over my Echoknight house rules for example.
@@robmongar7933 Sounds like you're in a pretty good place to pick your personal preference. I'm a big fan of RAW, personally, but I could definitely see a case being made either way.
Quicken metamagic specifiie that you cannot have cast and cannot cast an other leveled spell before or after using quicken spell. So no Sorcerer won't be able to cast fireball with a wand then quicken an other fireball with then spell slot. But yes Aberrant mind can use their sorcerer point to cast their psionic spell then use a spell slot to cast a spell... But hte psionic spell list is no longer customizable, so you are stuck with the aweful bad spell that Jeremy Crawford decided. So yeah hurray for subtle cast rary telepathic bound and sending spell, I cast them so often in middle of a fight preventing me from casting fireball and getting counterspell...
Wait, hang on. If you can’t spend more than one spell slot on the same turn, does that mean that Contingency and Glyph of Warding no longer function? I think you have to spend two spell slots to cast those spells. Is there specific wording in those spell descriptions that overrides that rule? How exactly do those spells interact with this rule, if at all?
Solid question. I don't have access to the new text for either spell, but looking at the 2014 version, I think an argument could be made for them still functioning as writ. Namely because the spells say you cast the stored spell as part of casting the overall spell, but both overall spells have a longer than 1 action casting time, and so the spell slot expenditures could happen at differing points... It's a bit of a stretch of logic, frankly, but again, I don't know the finalized 2024 wording of either, yet.
I like this idea, Tim. I don't know what rules to highlight as my digital copy requires me to have a non-sharing hero level+ dnd beyond subscription. My DM shares his stuff, so I'm not sure how to proceed.
Interesting question. The answer is likely no. Assuming that ready action rules haven’t changed, readying an action already costs your reaction to release the chosen action, so you’d be out of reactions for counterspell.
So I didnt see mentions of cantrips yet, which seems like a big omission. Since cantrips don't use spellslots, I assume that they can be cast as many times as you have actions for in 2024 rules? A big question now is what does the 2024 haste read exactly? Does it prohibit the use of magic action or not? Otherwise hasted warlock seems like a new meta thing.. Also by this token, doesn't the old "cast a bonus action spell and cast a cantrip as an action" still work since cantrips dont use spell slots?
Cantrips are explicitly called out as acceptable in the new rule, if you have actions without restrictions, you can cantrip. Haste has had its wording slightly altered but remains unchanged in that it cannot be used to cast spells in 5e. Bonus action spell + cantrip is definitely still ok. :)
would a sorcerer be able to quicken a leveled spell if they fail the new counterspell save, since the new counterspell cancels the spell but doesn't waste the slot?
Holy moly, that's a great question! I'd need to look at the exact wording to be sure... I'm gonna add this as a question to research. Anyone else got the exact text to give a definitive answer?
I don't understand how Sorcerer is buffed. If anyone can cast a spell slot spell and a none spell slot spell as a bonus action, how does quicken spell help. Doee new rules give you 2 bonus actions?
I did make a mistake in sorcerer because of the wording of quicken (which was reportedly unchanged but actually changed significantly, lol) prohibits two leveled spells in a round, but the idea is quicken an Action spell and then use a magic item to cast a second action spell. Unfortunately I didn’t have the text for quicken at the time which uses a specific text to stop that.
@DM-Timothy but anyone can do that without quicken. Cast 1 spell slot spell and cast another spell without using a spell slot...scroll, wand, innate abilities
@@Corpeces Only if one of those is naturally a bonus action option. Quicken allows two Action options, aka double fireball, instead of misty step + fireball. Or at least it would have, if they hadn't changed wording on Quicken. :)
It’s certainly possible. If I’m being predictive, magic items won’t restrict it. As was pointed out by others before I got a copy of the PHB, Quicken and Action Surge include verbiage to close the biggest holes, and the smaller holes appear intentional imo.
Probably just going to let my players use their turn however they want and focus more on spell slot and rest resource economy as the limiting factor. Their player options will always be less than my options as a DM. I'm excited for all the content in these new books, the rule changes becoming generally more concise will give me a better platform to homebrew onto.
There's no way to use spell slots except to cast spells, as far as i know. Divine smite and Moon druid both got changed. But when something does come up -- maybe Eldritch smite -- you'll have "you can only use 1 spell slot per turn.... Except...." 😅 It's the same problem again!
It's a great question. Hard to say for sure! As has been pointed out, I was mistaken about Quicken because apparently the official wording of Quicken involves language also restricting people to one leveled spell, which, unless they change the wording of magic items, will close that loophole. If so, I actually quite enjoy the subtle buff to Rangers, Paladins (ok, it's pretty slim there), and War Clerics, as well as others. I just also don't think it makes it much less complicated, since there will be many exceptions.
There is NOTHING wrong with a DM being exempt to the spellcasting rules that bind players. As the DM you aren’t out to slay the players but you do want to make them sweat a little in each encounter. If the rules allow the DM more ways to challenge the players - GOOD
I don't mind breaking the usual bonds with special rituals and the like, but I enjoy the consistency that rules working on both sides of the table provides. It allows players to know what they should expect to happen, and makes breaking those "rules" more impactful. When they're inconsistent between player and DM, players stop caring about "cool" moments, because they know the rules are different anyway and don't know what those rules are. Naturally, that's just my opinion, and yours is totally valid, too, especially if everyone at your table is having fun. :)
so ... the shield spell (which uses a slot) cant be cast to save the caster when they get hit after they have already cast a spell that round. rip casters. I would revise that to say you can't cast more than one spell using a spell slot of 3rd level or higher in a turn.
If you need your reaction in the same turn you cast, then no. If your turn is over and it’s someone eles turn (a monster for instance) then shield is back on the table.
It's a surprise for me this rule indirectly buffed Ranger, I'm sure this was the only buff Crawford allowed for the poor Ranger, and again the Fullcaster were the ones gaining more benefits as always, Martial X Caster still is the same in this edition, and Half Caster are forgotten, Wotc still with the same Decade-Long Class Balancing Issues as always 😤
I hear Silvery Barbs got dropped. D&D is saved! This is something I struggle with when making house rules. If it's not simple, and I have to spell it out, it takes a bit of work to figure out the right wording and exceptions and hidden changes you didn't intend. Of course, I don't have the resources of a megacorp, so I expect my rules to be a bit crude and ambiguous. Hmmm...
I still don't know why this is a general rule to begin with. Just say that you can't cast spells with action surge, and only cantrips can be quickened (or some similar rule). There, easily solved all the imbalance and most spellcasters don't even have to learn any special rule, and you're not banning fun combos such as counterspelling a counterspell.
@@XanderHarris1023 So I'm hearing! I haven't been able to look at the wording on that yet, but it sounds like that will close the Quicken Loophole significantly.
I mentioned it super briefly, but it is definitely one of the cooler points that breaks around this new rule. I quite like that, especially for the improved Archfey patron, where misty step is going to be a super common thing.
Hate to break it to you, but Quickened spell includes an explicit rule that you cannot cast a level 1 or higher spell for your action in the same turn. This video is full of mistakes because the person who made it didn't actually do much research on rules changes.
We never used that stupid restriction in our tables, and this change will also be ignored. This restriction is dumb at best, they should make the enemies and martial classes better instead of placing such stupid restrictions to casters.
Totally. As mentioned, you just can't counterspell on YOUR turn, which used to be possible using your reaction to counterspell a counterspell that was used against you. (Counterspell wars were wild at times)
@@DM-Timothy oh shoot. My bad :) that makes much more sence. And, honestly, i think it's a good change then (counter counterspell is a wizard's hell). Totaly misheard/misunderstood (and, well, due to translations). Thank you for clarifying!
Production critique: you're leaning into the second camera to much and not necessarily appropriate for the moment. It's like anything you use to spice up a dish, too much is too much.
Thanks for the critique! Sometimes I use the second camera because I don't script my videos word for word, I record both cameras at the same time, and it helps me to mentally break my own concentration and just let myself talk, but this is useful to have rolling around in my head. I appreciate it.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm amending this to "you can cast one leveled spell per round." It makes it simple and cuts down on caster shenanigans. It has the bonus of reining in the shield spell without banning it.
I'd be curious to see how many people were behind you on this one. It's a tough call, because it nerfs a LOT of caster shenanigans (and requires people to remember what happened on their own turn, lol) but I can see the reason behind it, too.
@@DM-Timothy It would be a goose and a gander sort of thing. I saw the stat block for the 5.24 ancient green dragon, and it can cast Charm Monster at 5th level and Dissonant Whispers at 4th level with any of its 4 reactions (the replacement for legendary actions). Under my rule, the dragon could only cast a spell with one of those, and its assuming it didn't use its action to cast Cloudkill (or another spell). Lots of monsters don't use spell slots, uncoupling them from the limitation in the new RAW.
@@LordOz3 Yeah, I've got a video coming about that statblock, too. :D The Charm Monster as a legendary reaction was quite interesting, and the new statblocks are almost completely doing away with spell slots, making this new rule almost entire player-only.
Great suggestion, unfortunately a full analysis of that will have to wait until the DMG comes out. Perhaps wisely, the PHB has a very limited bit of information on it, but alludes to a significant improvement on the 2014 version by having adjustments to travel pace based on the kind of terrain you're moving through. I for one am excited to see it, so I'll probably be doing a video on it once the DMG hits my hands!
@@DM-Timothy you can still spend spell slots to cast spells as a reaction during your own turn, as long as haven't spent any other spell slots earlier in the turn. Watching the video a second time though I believe you either misspoke or structured the video in a way that confused me. Also action surge cannot be used for the Magic Action. I will edit my original comment as I was exaggerating more than was appropriate.
@@Rubycule No worries either way, I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong! :) I concur with your assessment of Counterspell being possible so long as you're not attempting to Counterspell your own spell that cost a spell slot to use (what a mouthful) if I worded that less than clearly, I do apologize. The adjustment to Action Surge wording was also something you're totally right, I missed. My apologies. Not having the book to refer to is a real pain.
Counterspell was very poorly designed in 5e. Anything that shuts down a casters turn completely like that is silly. And if you counter a counterspell, it's as if nothing happened.
I personally preferred 3.5s take on it, where it was more costly to attempt and more of an active opposition, but this won’t stop counterspell, so much as stopping a counterspell war between the caster and whoever is counterspelling them.
Shield and Hellish rebuke are unlikely to be changed unless you’re using them in response to an OA or the like, after having cast a spell using a spell slot on your turn. You can cast in response to a trigger on someone ELSES turn, still, without change.
@@DM-Timothy 5.5 is both easier and quicker to say and type than 2024, making it more high-speed low-drag, which is to say inherently cooler. I don't make the rules, I just exploit 'em.
@@DM-Timothy I can appreciate the appropriateness of such short-hand for personal notes, but if it were to reach a wider audience, it threatens to suggest that one is talking about the 24th edition of D&D. Specificity in speech matters.
@@r.downgrade5836 Fair enough. So far, every shorthand I've used has received commentary disagreeing (including 5.5). Wotc really did a number on it by not picking one themselves. lol
I’m a fairly firm believer in being unyielding where it matters, but Race v Species isn’t a stand that seems terribly important to me, personally. I use the two interchangeably at this point and hey, if it makes some folk happy, good on em.
Just one point of clarification. Even with spells that don't use spell slots, this doesn't open back up multiclassing for action surge. Action surge has been reworked also, and cannot be used now to perform a 'Magic Action'. So, you could cast a spell, then action surge and take the attack action. But you can't cast a spell, action surge and then cast another spell. Also, since using a magic item is now classified as a 'Magic Action', this would be blocked too from the new action surge.
Excellent catch, thank you! I haven't looked closely at the text of Action Surge. I appreciate you looking out and adding the clarification!!
@@DM-Timothy Quicken spell also has extra rules built in to prevent it from working. If you quicken a spell you can't cast another leveled spell. Even if it doesn't use a spell slot you can't cast it in the same round as quicken spell.
@@dabeef2112 I haven't had a chance to read the text on the new Quicken, but that's what folk are saying. I think that's a good thing, probably, but it's also one more nuance that's going to make this new rule potentially harder to remember for new players, I think. Great point out, thank you! :)
@@DM-Timothy @jasonhutcheson you actually CAN action surge spells as the EK fighter casts spells as an attack action and not a magic action.
@Razdasoldier that's "Specific over General ".
One thing this ruling massively buffs is spell scrolls which obviously don't use slots and as such allow you to cast any level spells you have a scroll of while still casting a full level spell as a bonus action. Another thing is the consistency buff to a Thief rogue multiclass as a magic class to be able to activate magic items with spells as a bonus action
Great points. I haven’t looked at the exact wording on the thief improvement, but that seems to track.
Cartomancer: take a spell that has a casting time of 1 action, and store it in a card to cast for free as a bonus action later.
Ring of Spell Storing: cast a spell while touching the ring to store it for later, with all the DC/bonuses of the original caster.
Spell Gems: similar, but specifically for spells of 1 Action or 1+ minutes, and with preset DC/bonuses.
We now have a ton of fun ways to cast multiple leveled spells in a turn.
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Question for fun. If a Fighter is grappling a Wizard while wearing a Ring of Spell Storing, does it absorb the spell automatically? _”Any creature can cast a spell of 1st through 5th level into the ring by touching the ring as the spell is cast.”_
Cartomancer in particular is seriously top tier for this. Great catch!
Re Question for fun: Unfortunately not by RAW, since grappling (which should have been called grabbing) doesn't specify where you're touching them, and odds seem decent that you're not holding hands... :D Sounds like a Persuasion check and seduction when they're casting on someone else would be more suitable... ;)
Quickened Spell doesn't work with this, because it explicitly calls out that you can't use it if you cast another spell of 1st level or higher on the same turn, and you can't do so after either.
Great catch. I haven't been able to look at the new wording for Quicken yet. Assuming that they also retain the same wording on magic items that exist in 2014 that include the word "cast" then that would indeed close this loophole.
Oh interesting, so you still can't use a magic wand because it's still casting the spell using the wand.
Seems like this is overall a debuff to magic users
@@jwmmitch You couldn't do so using 2014 rules, either, but I'd still say it's a minor debuff simply because of how it will restrict Silvery Barbs and Counterspell. However, it's sort of a subtle buff for classes that get free castings, and definitely adds some complication to those sorts of feats/species/class abilities.
Am I missing something here? Original wording is...
When you cast a spell that has a casting time of 1 action,
you can spend 2 sorcery points to change the casting
time to 1 bonus action for this casting.
there's nothing here restricting how you can use it. It sounds to me like you're using the '14 restriction, which would be gone.
@@SplChkPlz I haven't got my eyes on it personally, yet, but according to those who have, the 2024 Quicken includes verbiage clarifying that you can't use two leveled spells in a round, which would close the loophole.
scribes wizard being able to make themselves a free scroll is really good now
How do they get a free scroll? I’m playing a scribes wizard and don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@markwarden458 look at their 10th level feature
Early 5.5e Eldritch Knight had it’s sell casting backed into its attacks, letting the Eldritch Knight cast with action surge, my be worth double checking their ability
Eldritch Knight used to be the only class able to use Action Surge to cast two leveled spells, since they replace an attack from their Attack Action with a spell.
By implementing this "one spell slot per turn" rule, WotC has taken that unique ability away from Eldritch Knight.
It was a brilliant use of wording to kill the interaction between Action Surge and pure Spellcasters, while preserving the interaction for the Fighter class it was meant for. Then they ruined that beauty with this rule. They should have just kept the old bonus action rule, since nerfing Action Surge already solved the issue of casters abusing Action Surge for extra spells.
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For 5e, correct.
For 2024 5.5e, EKs can ignore this general rule under War Magic and Greater War Magic.
I'd argue that you can still use spells for reactions, because reactions do not occur on your turn. So this absolutely does not go against anything written here, your turn ended and you are using a reaction (an entirely different resource that allows you to act outside of your turn) to act.
You can definitely still use reactions, EXCEPT as noted in the video. The only restrictions are reactions on your own turn, for instance attempting to Counterspell someone who is Counterspelling YOUR spell that you just cast on your own turn. Or using Silvery barbs with a spell slot to help YOUR spell land that you just cast on your own turn.
All other uses are still valid. :)
@@DM-Timothy This clarification helped me SO much. I was so confused, but now I'm up to speed.
Wizard's high level ability to choose a spell of a lower level and ability to cast it any number of times without a spell slot just got a lot better.
ahhh yeah good point! I imagine it'll work for Signature spell too so 2 3rd level spells can be cast for free once per short rest. Means you could counterspell battle at least once in combat at level 20 lol, better late than never
Great catch! Given the nerf that one took, that's nice to see!
If magic item descriptions remain the same the new wording of quickened spell should still prevent doubling up on fireballs I believe
That's what I'm hearing! I haven't seen the official wording on Quickened Spell yet, but it does indeed seem that loophole is closed.
I saw a comment that pointed out Aberrant Sorcerer bonus spell list can all be cast without spell slots so it might have the most combos available.
Great point! Though the change in Quicken's wording (I messed up and missed that one) will limit some of the Sorc shenanigans, that one sounds likely to still be plausible.
@@DM-Timothy yeah, you'd just have to pick multiple bonus action spells for regular slots. might not be good for all encounters but could build some boss shredding options. also fey touched and shadow touched give you access to ANY spell book (RAW) without spell slot so you could actually pick up things like hunters mark since it works on spell attacks now.
@@mariop8852 Some restrictions apply in terms of which school of spells you can grab, but it's true, for a 1/day option to pair with your spells there are likely some fun choices out there.
@@DM-Timothy I did notice that and Hunter's mark is a bonus action enchantment 😊. Can get HM off and attack roll spell on round 1 and with quicken get 2 attacks a turn. Magic weapon also not concentration so it works really good with the new true strike.
With the aberrant mind , you can use your sorcery points to cast your psionic spells without a spell slot, so even with the new revision to quicken spell, you can still use misty step or any other bonus action spell on the same turn as long as you used the psionic spell feature. That being said that feature took a big nerf . Not only are you stuck with the spells you were given, no longer able to swap them out, but it now requires all material components,as before you didn't need them unless consumed. It no longer is uncounterable since even though you don't need the verbal or somatic you still need to grab your focus or component pouch. .
There's more than one outlier that got cancelled (not just action surge). You also now can't use your reaction on your turn to cast a spell with a spell slot if you've already done so.
The most obvious example is using Silvery Barbs on an enemy spell saving throw but there are actually quite a few other scenarios involving spells like Shield or Absorb Elements.
Damn, no countering Counterspell on your own turn
Shield and Absorb elements feel like they will be far more niche, but yes, as mentioned in the video, Silvery Barbs and Counterspell took a big hit.
The wierdest interaction from the 2014 version of this rule is that you could counterspell a counterspell of your action spell, but you couldnt counterspell a counterspell of your bonus action spell.
And unfortunately the new version has a similar interaction (assuming you can counterspell counterspell) where whether or not you can counterspell someone counterspelling you depends on whether or not it is a free casting, which can change between two castings of the same spell.
Yep, now it's about source and spell slot instead of actions used. It's all quite curious. :D
I believe action surge now says you can't use the magic action as part of action surge.
You're right. I totally missed that one, as well as the new wording on Quicken. Apologies!
I’m on a quest to collect every house rule on youtube, and this is another instance of the community having a vastly superior solution that the designers could not wait to bend over backwards to avoid - the failings and abuses of “1 level spell per turn” pale in comparison to the issues with this patch - I’d even take “1 spell per turn” - that would be so clean - casters weren’t hurting for power, but it’s very important to the designers that they make sure a wizard can still cast at least 2 spells per turn somehow 🤷🏿♀️ I know I’m getting heated “over a game”, but this particular game is the flagship of a hobby that means life and death for people who use it to spend time with friends and loved ones or process trauma or just find a moment of happiness in the ever bleakening existence we all endure - so now they get to puzzle, or worse argue, over this rule that doesn’t actually address the problem it’s trying to solve - this all comes back to bonus actions and the consequent 3 (or sometimes 4!) action economy that is spreading thru the hobby - meh get off my lawn! 🤦🏿♀️ anyway, great video Tim - I appreciate you pointing out this issue so I can continue using house rules for this one ❤
I hear you, for sure. Glad the video served, and by all means, house rules are meant for keeping things where we want them at our tables!
What do you mean, this change solves almost every outstanding issue with the old rule.
Personally, I don't think the old bonus action rule was that complicated, the issue was that UA-camrs would constantly shorthand it to something that was wrong.
@@X20Adam I didn't think the old rule was terribly complicated either, but because I run game for more players than many, I can attest that it confused a lot of people anyway. This new one solves some of the old problems, and seems like it should be even more intuitive, but the outliers are even more obscure feeling now. I suspect we'll have just as many conversations about it at the table. Gotta love it! :D
Ttrpgs are not therapy, get out here and go get a actual doctor
@@leonelegender doctors aren’t therapists 🤦🏿♀️
We shall have to see how magic items will play into the spell slot usage rule once the DMG comes out. For all we know it is quite possible they addressed this and reworded the items- will it fall in our favor or teeter into oblivion...stay tuned...same bat channel...same bat time.
For sure, it’s definitely possible they will address it there. But I don’t think it is all that likely, because they have been doing a good job of consolidating rules and this would be a case of taking 1 rule from the 2014 book and turning it into two separate rules in two separate books.
@@DM-Timothy I suspect it is very likely they did not think forward enough on the impact of the changes. You can see it from time to time in the rules when they make an official entry, but they completely overlook what it does later down the line where it impacts features or spells or specific situations. Understandable considering the reams of rules and the number of hands that are contributing to the writing. That is what we DM's are for 😉
@@unknowncomic4107 Tis true. DMs are the great failsafe of TTRPGs in general! :)
For a future video about the 2024 rules I would love to see your take on all the actions and interactions around the new unarmed attacks and grappling rules (how do the new rules exactly work, what can you do whilst grappling and what not, and how do they interact with abilities and feats?). For example, can you reposition a grappled creature as long as it stays within your reach, or can you only drag them behind you?
The new grappling stuff is pretty wild and awesome. I'll add it to the list!
Thanks for providing this info. I think its an improvement but also a risky one. I have played with an alternative almost since my first day of DMing. "No two spells with an original aciton cost of One Action, can be cast on the same turn"
However, since the Magic Action is defined as "cast a spell, use an item, or use a magical feature", doesn't RAW shoot down those loopholes? I can easily see Mystic Arcana and these racial features counting as a "magical feature" that grants the free casting of a leveled spell that costs a spell slot.
Also semantically, saying “for example etc etc” does not preclude other examples (does not mean that is the only example where the rule applies). Otherwise they would have started by saying “This means that etc etc”.
Even if this is technically RAI it’s a pretty simple errata.
The wording issue is that the actual rule is: "On a turn, you can expend only one spell slot to cast a spell." Mystic arcana and racial features, etc, do not use spell slots, therefore the rule doesn't apply. The example doesn't preclude it, but the rule itself does.
Honestly? It sounds like there’s so many ways to get around the new rule that you might as well just ignore it completely, except for Quickened Spell.
It's definitely got a whole new set of loopholes to understand, that's for sure.
@@DM-Timothy especially when you consider that the most commonly used bonus action spells are either cantrips (Shilelegh) or very readily available without spell slots (Misty Step & Hunter’s Mark)
I had been under the impression that the new rules would allow bonus action spells +action spells in the same turn as long as the bonus action spell is natively a bonus action spell (Misty step, Healing Word, Sanctuary, Shilleagle*) so I implemented this and even the sorcerer (quicken did not allow the double cast) enjoyed it.
Now the new rules are out and I am not sure whether to use them or if I should stick to my original rulling, which does prevent the Wand+Scroll + quicken combo.
It’s a tough one that I suspect will vary by table. How prone to “optimal play” are your specific players?
@@DM-Timothy Pretty mixed. many are fairly heavily optimisers, but there is a basic respect for game balance. No one is willing to pick a fight with me over my Echoknight house rules for example.
@@robmongar7933 Sounds like you're in a pretty good place to pick your personal preference. I'm a big fan of RAW, personally, but I could definitely see a case being made either way.
Thank you Tim. Great foresight in an upcoming shift mechanics we will need to be sharp on! Keep ‘em coming!
You bet! Thanks! :)
Another thing with Action Surge is that it specifically calls out that you can't take the Magic action with it.
Yeah, I missed that one by not having the book yet for complete text. My apologies! Thanks for commenting to help others out. :)
How does this affect thr warlock spells of 6th level or higher? You don't use spell slots for those
Exactly, so it means you can use your spell slot for a bonus action spell and still use a Mystic Arcanum spell, too.
Quicken metamagic specifiie that you cannot have cast and cannot cast an other leveled spell before or after using quicken spell. So no Sorcerer won't be able to cast fireball with a wand then quicken an other fireball with then spell slot. But yes Aberrant mind can use their sorcerer point to cast their psionic spell then use a spell slot to cast a spell... But hte psionic spell list is no longer customizable, so you are stuck with the aweful bad spell that Jeremy Crawford decided. So yeah hurray for subtle cast rary telepathic bound and sending spell, I cast them so often in middle of a fight preventing me from casting fireball and getting counterspell...
Thanks for pointing out the metamagic thing. As has been mentioned, I missed that one for sure. Not having access to the book is a pain :D
The 2 level Fighter dip doesn't work because you can't use the Magic action with the action granted from Action Surge
Solid catch, I did indeed miss that one. Apologies!
Misty arcanum should allow to cast more than one spell on the same turn using quicken spell or bonus action spells
Yep! Arcanum will work with a bonus action spell, and several other cool options exist, too.
Wait, hang on. If you can’t spend more than one spell slot on the same turn, does that mean that Contingency and Glyph of Warding no longer function? I think you have to spend two spell slots to cast those spells. Is there specific wording in those spell descriptions that overrides that rule? How exactly do those spells interact with this rule, if at all?
Solid question. I don't have access to the new text for either spell, but looking at the 2014 version, I think an argument could be made for them still functioning as writ. Namely because the spells say you cast the stored spell as part of casting the overall spell, but both overall spells have a longer than 1 action casting time, and so the spell slot expenditures could happen at differing points... It's a bit of a stretch of logic, frankly, but again, I don't know the finalized 2024 wording of either, yet.
I like this idea, Tim. I don't know what rules to highlight as my digital copy requires me to have a non-sharing hero level+ dnd beyond subscription. My DM shares his stuff, so I'm not sure how to proceed.
I’m not sure I understand your question, I apologize!?
Could a spellcaster hold their spell cast until after their turn, release it right after his turn drops, and then be allowed to counterspell?
Interesting question. The answer is likely no. Assuming that ready action rules haven’t changed, readying an action already costs your reaction to release the chosen action, so you’d be out of reactions for counterspell.
So I didnt see mentions of cantrips yet, which seems like a big omission. Since cantrips don't use spellslots, I assume that they can be cast as many times as you have actions for in 2024 rules?
A big question now is what does the 2024 haste read exactly? Does it prohibit the use of magic action or not? Otherwise hasted warlock seems like a new meta thing..
Also by this token, doesn't the old "cast a bonus action spell and cast a cantrip as an action" still work since cantrips dont use spell slots?
Cantrips are explicitly called out as acceptable in the new rule, if you have actions without restrictions, you can cantrip. Haste has had its wording slightly altered but remains unchanged in that it cannot be used to cast spells in 5e. Bonus action spell + cantrip is definitely still ok. :)
"Can i talk to my lawyer before taking my turn?"
lol, every table needs one ;)
would a sorcerer be able to quicken a leveled spell if they fail the new counterspell save, since the new counterspell cancels the spell but doesn't waste the slot?
Holy moly, that's a great question! I'd need to look at the exact wording to be sure... I'm gonna add this as a question to research. Anyone else got the exact text to give a definitive answer?
i would think so cnsidering NO spell slot was used, someone correct me if im wrong :D
I don't understand how Sorcerer is buffed. If anyone can cast a spell slot spell and a none spell slot spell as a bonus action, how does quicken spell help. Doee new rules give you 2 bonus actions?
I did make a mistake in sorcerer because of the wording of quicken (which was reportedly unchanged but actually changed significantly, lol) prohibits two leveled spells in a round, but the idea is quicken an Action spell and then use a magic item to cast a second action spell. Unfortunately I didn’t have the text for quicken at the time which uses a specific text to stop that.
@DM-Timothy but anyone can do that without quicken. Cast 1 spell slot spell and cast another spell without using a spell slot...scroll, wand, innate abilities
@@Corpeces Only if one of those is naturally a bonus action option. Quicken allows two Action options, aka double fireball, instead of misty step + fireball. Or at least it would have, if they hadn't changed wording on Quicken. :)
@@DM-Timothy ok now you are confusing me. How do you get 2 fireballs with 2014 rules. Quicken doesn't let you cast two leveled spells
@@Corpeces sorry for being confusing! The mistake I made was regarding 2024 rules, unrelated to 2014s bonus action spells rule.
This won't affect my game at all. 1 major spell per turn. No machine gunning spells whatever the phrasing.
Totally solid and understandable choice. :)
I suspect the dmg will require spell slots for some items or otherwise limit this.
It’s certainly possible. If I’m being predictive, magic items won’t restrict it. As was pointed out by others before I got a copy of the PHB, Quicken and Action Surge include verbiage to close the biggest holes, and the smaller holes appear intentional imo.
Probably just going to let my players use their turn however they want and focus more on spell slot and rest resource economy as the limiting factor.
Their player options will always be less than my options as a DM.
I'm excited for all the content in these new books, the rule changes becoming generally more concise will give me a better platform to homebrew onto.
A focus on resources is rarely a bad call at the table. Totally solid stance to take :)
There's no way to use spell slots except to cast spells, as far as i know. Divine smite and Moon druid both got changed.
But when something does come up -- maybe Eldritch smite -- you'll have "you can only use 1 spell slot per turn.... Except...." 😅 It's the same problem again!
Yep, different issues, same problem. :D
was this done on purpose or not?? On one hand I don't want to buff spellcasters further but on the other, it really helps out the ranger.
It's a great question. Hard to say for sure! As has been pointed out, I was mistaken about Quicken because apparently the official wording of Quicken involves language also restricting people to one leveled spell, which, unless they change the wording of magic items, will close that loophole. If so, I actually quite enjoy the subtle buff to Rangers, Paladins (ok, it's pretty slim there), and War Clerics, as well as others. I just also don't think it makes it much less complicated, since there will be many exceptions.
There is NOTHING wrong with a DM being exempt to the spellcasting rules that bind players. As the DM you aren’t out to slay the players but you do want to make them sweat a little in each encounter. If the rules allow the DM more ways to challenge the players - GOOD
I don't mind breaking the usual bonds with special rituals and the like, but I enjoy the consistency that rules working on both sides of the table provides. It allows players to know what they should expect to happen, and makes breaking those "rules" more impactful. When they're inconsistent between player and DM, players stop caring about "cool" moments, because they know the rules are different anyway and don't know what those rules are. Naturally, that's just my opinion, and yours is totally valid, too, especially if everyone at your table is having fun. :)
@@DM-Timothy I can respect that
so ... the shield spell (which uses a slot) cant be cast to save the caster when they get hit after they have already cast a spell that round. rip casters.
I would revise that to say you can't cast more than one spell using a spell slot of 3rd level or higher in a turn.
If you need your reaction in the same turn you cast, then no. If your turn is over and it’s someone eles turn (a monster for instance) then shield is back on the table.
Aberrant mind and clockwork soul sorcerers are soo Happy right noe
Until we read in the DMG that using a scroll or a wand count as using a spell slot!
Until then! :D
It's a surprise for me this rule indirectly buffed Ranger, I'm sure this was the only buff Crawford allowed for the poor Ranger, and again the Fullcaster were the ones gaining more benefits as always, Martial X Caster still is the same in this edition, and Half Caster are forgotten, Wotc still with the same Decade-Long Class Balancing Issues as always 😤
Class balance is... a thing, to be sure.
Thanks for the information. The more I hear about D&D 2024, the less I want to play it.
Sorry to hear it, but you're welcome!
I hear Silvery Barbs got dropped. D&D is saved!
This is something I struggle with when making house rules. If it's not simple, and I have to spell it out, it takes a bit of work to figure out the right wording and exceptions and hidden changes you didn't intend. Of course, I don't have the resources of a megacorp, so I expect my rules to be a bit crude and ambiguous. Hmmm...
It's one of the reasons I tend to focus on using RAW with as few houserules as possible, myself.
@@DM-Timothy Agreed.
I still don't know why this is a general rule to begin with. Just say that you can't cast spells with action surge, and only cantrips can be quickened (or some similar rule). There, easily solved all the imbalance and most spellcasters don't even have to learn any special rule, and you're not banning fun combos such as counterspelling a counterspell.
The video does a good job justifying the rule change. Its more intuitive than the original rule. I like it
It is an interesting design decision. I can’t speak to their intent, just the consequences :D
They did change quicken so you can't cast a level 1+ spell before or after it.
@@XanderHarris1023 So I'm hearing! I haven't been able to look at the wording on that yet, but it sounds like that will close the Quicken Loophole significantly.
Was hoping to see Mystic Arcanum here
I mentioned it super briefly, but it is definitely one of the cooler points that breaks around this new rule. I quite like that, especially for the improved Archfey patron, where misty step is going to be a super common thing.
I like this so much more. It makes Magic Adept worthy.
Hate to break it to you, but Quickened spell includes an explicit rule that you cannot cast a level 1 or higher spell for your action in the same turn.
This video is full of mistakes because the person who made it didn't actually do much research on rules changes.
We never used that stupid restriction in our tables, and this change will also be ignored.
This restriction is dumb at best, they should make the enemies and martial classes better instead of placing such stupid restrictions to casters.
Fair enough! Do you do anything to offset the martial divide at your table?
But it doesn't?.. The key Word is turn. Each turn. Not round.
When your turn is over you can use your reaction with a spell slot.
Totally. As mentioned, you just can't counterspell on YOUR turn, which used to be possible using your reaction to counterspell a counterspell that was used against you. (Counterspell wars were wild at times)
@@DM-Timothy oh shoot. My bad :) that makes much more sence. And, honestly, i think it's a good change then (counter counterspell is a wizard's hell).
Totaly misheard/misunderstood (and, well, due to translations). Thank you for clarifying!
@@nastiasudislavleva2894 no worries at all! Always happy to chat about D&D… I’m kinda obsessed… :D
A big loss to reaction spells. Now you have to wager if you want to shield or counterspell or do something more useful than a cantrip.
Shield and the like will still work because you will take damage on a turn other than your own, and thus your reaction won’t fall under that rule.
Production critique: you're leaning into the second camera to much and not necessarily appropriate for the moment. It's like anything you use to spice up a dish, too much is too much.
Thanks for the critique! Sometimes I use the second camera because I don't script my videos word for word, I record both cameras at the same time, and it helps me to mentally break my own concentration and just let myself talk, but this is useful to have rolling around in my head. I appreciate it.
@@DM-Timothy make sure you have the microphone set to pick up your voice from that side as well. You did it in the earlier video as I recall.
Scribes wizard didn’t even make it and still got even stronger
Ikr?!
DnD under WoT has broken DnD. Long live BECMI. ;)
So many acronyms... lol
That "spell slot" rule relaxation is so wide I could drive a bus through it. So many broken builds are coming.
I tend to concur. Not my personal speciality, but I would be willing to bet those creators are already at work :D
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm amending this to "you can cast one leveled spell per round." It makes it simple and cuts down on caster shenanigans. It has the bonus of reining in the shield spell without banning it.
I'd be curious to see how many people were behind you on this one. It's a tough call, because it nerfs a LOT of caster shenanigans (and requires people to remember what happened on their own turn, lol) but I can see the reason behind it, too.
@@DM-Timothy It would be a goose and a gander sort of thing. I saw the stat block for the 5.24 ancient green dragon, and it can cast Charm Monster at 5th level and Dissonant Whispers at 4th level with any of its 4 reactions (the replacement for legendary actions). Under my rule, the dragon could only cast a spell with one of those, and its assuming it didn't use its action to cast Cloudkill (or another spell).
Lots of monsters don't use spell slots, uncoupling them from the limitation in the new RAW.
@@LordOz3 Yeah, I've got a video coming about that statblock, too. :D The Charm Monster as a legendary reaction was quite interesting, and the new statblocks are almost completely doing away with spell slots, making this new rule almost entire player-only.
Travel: Mostly Overland
Great suggestion, unfortunately a full analysis of that will have to wait until the DMG comes out. Perhaps wisely, the PHB has a very limited bit of information on it, but alludes to a significant improvement on the 2014 version by having adjustments to travel pace based on the kind of terrain you're moving through. I for one am excited to see it, so I'll probably be doing a video on it once the DMG hits my hands!
Either you should have waited with a video like this or you should have done more research. There are quite a few mistakes in this video.
Thanks for your comment! The Quicken spell change has been pointed out, what other mistakes did you spot?
@@DM-Timothy you can still spend spell slots to cast spells as a reaction during your own turn, as long as haven't spent any other spell slots earlier in the turn. Watching the video a second time though I believe you either misspoke or structured the video in a way that confused me.
Also action surge cannot be used for the Magic Action.
I will edit my original comment as I was exaggerating more than was appropriate.
@@Rubycule No worries either way, I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong! :) I concur with your assessment of Counterspell being possible so long as you're not attempting to Counterspell your own spell that cost a spell slot to use (what a mouthful) if I worded that less than clearly, I do apologize.
The adjustment to Action Surge wording was also something you're totally right, I missed. My apologies. Not having the book to refer to is a real pain.
Counterspell was very poorly designed in 5e. Anything that shuts down a casters turn completely like that is silly. And if you counter a counterspell, it's as if nothing happened.
I personally preferred 3.5s take on it, where it was more costly to attempt and more of an active opposition, but this won’t stop counterspell, so much as stopping a counterspell war between the caster and whoever is counterspelling them.
@@DM-Timothy - Agreed. Much better in 3e.
WTH?? so you can't use Shield or Helish rebuke or other reaction spells if you cast a spell as an action? that's rubbish
If you're attacked outside of your turn then you can.
Shield and Hellish rebuke are unlikely to be changed unless you’re using them in response to an OA or the like, after having cast a spell using a spell slot on your turn. You can cast in response to a trigger on someone ELSES turn, still, without change.
*D&D 5.5
Everyone seems to have a different name for it, lol. The price WOTC pays for not picking one themselves I guess.
@@DM-Timothy 5.5 is both easier and quicker to say and type than 2024, making it more high-speed low-drag, which is to say inherently cooler.
I don't make the rules, I just exploit 'em.
Hehe, I call it dnd24, when just referencing it for my own use.
@@DM-Timothy I can appreciate the appropriateness of such short-hand for personal notes, but if it were to reach a wider audience, it threatens to suggest that one is talking about the 24th edition of D&D. Specificity in speech matters.
@@r.downgrade5836 Fair enough. So far, every shorthand I've used has received commentary disagreeing (including 5.5). Wotc really did a number on it by not picking one themselves. lol
You guys know you can just make up your own rules right? You don't actually have to wait for a corporation to vomit slop into your mouth.
hehe, we're all aware.
Clearly not.
Lame. Will be sticking with 5e for a long time.
That’s fair enough. One nice thing about TTRPGs is that we can just pick and choose the things we like and house rule them in. :)
Please stop with the "species" stuff. It's race. Always has been, always will be, don't bend to those trying to change what wasn't broken.
I’m a fairly firm believer in being unyielding where it matters, but Race v Species isn’t a stand that seems terribly important to me, personally. I use the two interchangeably at this point and hey, if it makes some folk happy, good on em.
@@DM-Timothy give an inch. They'll take a mile.