So, blow by blow: 1, one of the chalks was dropped in the wrong position, a block too far north, so they never had the four corners of the target building covered as they wanted. You can see this in the film on the aerial view the general gets, but it’s never mentioned. 2, Blackburn didn’t fall dodging an RPG, he was just in-experienced and didn’t hold his rope correctly and fell. 3, Delta secured the targets, but the trucks to carry away the prisoners were wating for them outside, and Delta thought the trucks were going to call them saying when it was clear, and the trucks thought that delta were going to call *them* to say they were coming out, so both just stood there on opposite sides of a closed door waiting for the other to call, giving militia time to build up in numbers. 4, civilians gathered to rubber-neck, an angry armed man riding a cow appeared distracting everyone, and the Somali national alliance had been studying previous US raids and planning for months how to use a downed helicopter as bait to lure in a rescue teams for an ambush, and how to quicky throw up road blocks on the most likely reinforcement routes, so it was a perfect storm of a good hostile planning and everything going wrong for the rangers at once. 5, in one of the crashing helicopters (I forget which one), the pilots intentionally steered himself into the ground nose- first, killing himself but saving the guys in the back. 6, This films only real flaw as I judge it is int underplays just how badass the Malaysian and Pakistani troops were, because once they were actually informed what was going on (the pentagon was concerned about them leaking secrets so never told them about the op), they actually did a lot of the fighting to contain the Militia so the extraction of the rangers could take place, with a Malaysian condor APC holding off waves of attacks with a 20mm cannon so the final vehicle column could extract.
As I understand it, the tactic of using groups of men all armed with RPGs to bring down the Blackhawks was new, and that the SNA had taken down a single helicopter in a "test run" of the tactic a week before the Battle of Mogadishu. Once they had success with one, they had even more groups armed with RPGs to respond to the next US helicopter mission over the SNA part of the city, right?
For note 5, the pilot was Cliff "Elvis" Wolcott. According to his friend, Michael Durant (Super 64) in his book "In the Company of Heroes," Wolcott helped develop the DAP (Black Hawk gunship) and was a legend among Black Hawk pilots.
That’s what makes the movie so good for me, the realism, although some of it is obviously different, it still has this realistic effect, a lot of that comes with the actors training, done by actual rangers, and operators that gave them tips, like don’t stand too close to the walls.
@@alexanderbaluch1860 while CWO Keith Jones did play himself, many of the pilots were there in 1993 with Task Force Ranger. Even a couple of the Ranger extras, like Sergeant John Collett, were present.
The guys that I would work with as a NAVY SEAL would be 3rd Battalion/75th Ranger Regiment And the C Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) and I would kill some bad guys with them and go on Missions with them too and so I would work with these guys as a NAVY SEAL and just go on missions with these guys and really kill some bad guys with them and I want to work with these guys as a Navy Seal I wanna be a NAVY SEAL because I want to fight for the fallen brothers and sisters that are dead from the bombing blast on August 26th 2021 in Kabul Afghanistan like these guys But I would also die for these guys and I wouldn’t care if I get put on a cross by the bad guys but as a Navy Seal I would work with these guys the C squadron Special Forces Operational Delta Detachment (1st SFOD-D) and the 3rd Battalion/75th Ranger Regiment and go on Missions with these guys but as a NAVY SEAL I would want to work with these guys Marine Corp : SGT Johnny Rosario Pichardo Marine Corp : Sgt Nicole Gee Marine Corp : Staff Sgt Darian T Hoover Marine Corp : Lance Cpl David L Espinoza Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Hunter Lopez Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Rylee J McCollum Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Dylan R Merola Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Kareem M Nikoui Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Jared M SchmitzEver Marine Corp : Cpl Humberto A Sánchez Marine Corp : Cpl Daegan W Page Navy Hospital : Corpsman Maxton W Soviak Army : Staff Sgt Ryan C Knauss
Those Delta Snipers knew they were going to die by going back. They knew once they went in that there was a good chance. And they still made every bullet count. Mad respect.
RIP to Tom Sizemore, he was an amazing actor gone to soon. no matter what film he played, his presence was bigger than life. one of my all-time favorite movies with him in it is The RELIC. now that is a film I recommend for you too see and react to it here with your viewers. I read the book as well back in '95 and the movie premiered in '97. please say you will give a try someday soon!!
The Relic is your favorite Tom Sizemore movie?! I remember seeing The Relic in theatres and it was entertaining but he was in Heat 1995 and Saving Private Ryan 1998. Those are amazing movies that he did a great job in. Heat had a legendary cast with an amazing story.
@@secludedmisanthrope6388 I saw those as well over the years but remember I read the book first and fell in love with it and his character Detective Lt Vincent D’ Agosta along with the protagonist Margo Green. I’ve watched that film a million times and still admire his tenacity to make sure those he protects in the museum makes out! His role was solid and he nailed it just like always does in his many films!!! Underrated actor and deserved many awards in my opinion. Plus I would like them to react to it soon, I hope 🤞
@@NovaQuinn_007 I love The Relic too and got the book after watching the movie a couple hundred times lol. I wanted more of the story! Who knew museums could be so scary after dark. :)
Oh gosh I didn’t know he passed away, til I checked it after readying your comment. Actually to be honest I never realised he is the SGT from Saving Private Ryan as well. But he was definitely an awesome actor. 😢
Col. Dan McKnight said his calm, almost blasé attitude was intentional. He was very aware of the mortal danger, but as commander he had to appear calm so the young troops would stay calm & believe there was no need for alarm.
its great movie for those who never knew the true story what actually happened. because of this my country will producing a real event what actually happened, the movie will be release in August this year title MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA
Four Blackhawks were actual shot down that day. Super 6-2 was heavily damaged by an RPG after dropping Shugart and Gordon at the 6-4 crash site. They managed to limp outside the city limits to the port and out down by the water. Super 6-8 managed to get back to the airfield after dropping the Combat Search And Rescue medics at the 6-1 crash. Super 6-6 made resupply runs during the night by dropping ammo and I think medical supplies inside courtyards the Rangers and Delta Operators occupied.
@@tawogtrailers But they didn't safely land because they crashed. They were shot down because they crashed due to being hit by enemy fire. Super 6-2 was hit by an RPG while covering Shughart and Gordon, they crash landed in the Newport Area and were rescued by the Pakistani and Malaysian Peacekeepers. Super 6-8 crash landed when they got back to the airport. Super 6-6 was the only one that got hit which landed safely.
@@tawogtrailersTaking enemy fire and being forced to land is a shoot down and when the aircraft can’t leave under its own power, it’s been shot down all the same.
I think the reason the emotionality of this so powerful is because everything is happening in real time. There's no back stories to make a death more impactful. Like he said, "It's just war."
My favorite game to play is trying to guess whether or not the next week's movie will show up when James talks about it. Is it going to or not? We never know
50:40 is a recoilless rifle. They’re anti armor guns basically like a tank cannon but smaller caliber. Something like a m40 but much shorter and mounted on a pretty low tech tripod or something that could fit on a truck.
I lived about a mile from where Micheal Durant and his wife lived when this happened. I also went to high school with Micheal Durants wife, though she was a year ahead of me. The unit that flies for Delta, Seal Team Six, and pretty much most of the Special Operations Units is here at Ft. Campbell.
They came up with a powder that cauterizes wounds like the femoral artery wound because of this battle. They eventually developed it into a patch that is easier to control. What gets me is seeing the bodies of the troops being desecrated. That really happened and I believe I remember hearing that some of the family, unfortunately, saw photos and video of it on the news.
@@JamesJoyce12 That's the most hideously disrespectful thing I've ever heard anyone say. Durant was in the pilot's seat. His leg was broken and had no way of moving out of his position. The copilot Ray got out on his side, was ambushed and killed by the responding crowd. Two crew chiefs were in the back portion. Durant said he saw movement from behind, which only confirms at least one of them survived the impact. After Shugart and Gordon arrived, Durant was put on the opposite side of the crashed chopper. The site was overrun after about 45 minutes. Durant ran out of ammo. He still had a holstered sidearm, but forgot about it during the chaos. The first person to find him saw he was alive, yet not attacking and took it upon himself to fire into the air to force everyone else back. The overwhelming majority present wanted to kill him. Durant was later chained in a locked room and shot in the shoulder before the taped interview was made public of him being interrogated. It's reported the remaining bodies at Super Six 4 had their limbs dismembered, with their bodies dragged throughout the streets. Amateur video was taken of this and made public. So no, kindly stfu at how fabricating Durant would've been taken prisoner regardless. You clearly don't know what tf you're talking about.
@@digidv85 You have said not a thing - all the crew died except Durant and he was taken hostage and two additional Delta operators died - changing not a thing - so the net cost was two Delta operators. You have provided no evidence that Durant would have necessarily died absent the sacrifice of the two Delta operators and even then it was 2:1.
@@JamesJoyce12 It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and pretend like you know anything. The point is they tried and defended him and held off enemy fire for a long time, they volunteered, it was their choice. Clearly you don't have honor or respect and have never been in the service. Probably a coward in real life judging by your tone.
@@JamesJoyce12 You really need to stop. I’m not going to listen to any more of your retarded bullshit. Again: trapped in the pilot seat. Only armed with a MP5, maybe a few extra magazines. Crowd of hundreds attacking the site. Do the fucking math.
16:39 For the production, all of the big name Ranger actors went to a 1 week version of Ranger School to familiarize them with terminology, tactics, how to hold a rifle accurately, etc. The Delta Force actors actually went to the 1st Special Warfare Training Group at Fort Bragg for an intensive 2 week commando course. The actors playing the pilots were given multiple lectures by Mike Durant himself, and a lot of one-on-one coaching to make sure all their movements and terminology were dead on right. For any airborne scene that isn't close enough to show faces, those were active Rangers in 2001 from 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, with all of the Little Birds and Black Hawks provided by, and flown by, the 160th SOAR, the same unit that was there in 1993. The pilot waving to the kid at 16:51 is Keith Jones, who was actually there on Oct 3-4, 1993. In fact, almost all of the pilot extras (ie not the "hero" characters) were aviators and operators actually involved in the Battle of Mogadishu, with some even getting a few speaking lines.
@@latrelljack8751 the whole 2nd half of the movie was poo poo. In reality the ridge was a gentle uphill, not a cliff. Aside from the terrible movements and guys bunched together for no reason.
Yeah, among other lessons it was a great reminder that no plan survives contact with the enemy - plan and prepare the ground all you want but you have to be adaptable and call upon your training to improvise. You should watch a similar actioner based on real events, "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" (2016)
I was about 7. My mom was the intel attaché for the 82nd airborne and was supposed to be there. I can speculate as to why they didn't send her, being the only female in the unit, but I couldn't have been more grateful after seeing people being dragged out of helicopters on the news.
Becoming one of my favorite reaction channels. Love your choices of movies and also the decent knowledge you have about the military in general to understand the subtler aspects of what the stories are about.
One of my moms exs boyfriends was a veteran who wasnt there during this the mission but knew people who went on this mission and helped with the aftermath. He know those two men who sacrificed themselves to save Mike Durant. What he told me truly horrified still to this day. I wont go into details but those two deserved those medals and then some. I love this movie. Its just different especially since most war films are time period movies or focus on the world wars. The whole situation is so sad. Its still war. But this is one of those that wasnt won by anyone.
this movie is far from accurate. the one who save US army is Malaysian army and we will release an accurate version of what actually happened there in a movie called mallbatt : misi bakara in August this year
@@boboboy8189 No, this movie was a very faithful representation of the novel which is a completely factual recreation based on eyewitness interviews. There was some artistic license taken by combining certain characters and events as well as the use of IR strobes, but the movie is about >75% accurate.
@@smoketinytom That wasn't due to Military Command. That was due to pressure from Politicians. Garrison also requested for Bradley fighting vehicles for the operation but that was also denied.
A friend of mine Chris Beetem was in this he played the guy who got shot in the back cause he took the plate out of his vest. He said they all went through training in a real military boot camp and it was hella hard work. It paid off though it added to the realism of the movie
sadly Hollywood changed a real event of what actually happened in that place. our Malaysian army actually save US Army but were ignored by Hollywood. our country send an official letter to Hollywood asking them why there's no Malaysian army and they said it just a movie. because of this, now we producing a real event of what happened in that place. the movie title is MALLBATT MISI BAKARA and will be release this august.
@@boboboy8189 this is really sad, I went to google about it after reading your comment, as a Singaporean I must say we SEA boys definitely did a good job back then.
@@boboboy8189 They DO mention Malaysian forces in the movie. When General Garrion says: "Pakistanis, Malays, I want their tanks and APCs." 43:23 It's just that UN forces as a whole are not really portrayed, as the focus of the story is the US forces.
It's easy enough to _say_ it's obviously dumb to leave armor plates behind, but try running around wearing them sometime. That's a lot of weight, and it covers a pretty small portion of your body. Mobility is one of your weapons too, and giving it up for a very limited protection is not always the best choice. Especially when you haven't had a chance to read the script and know exactly what's going to happen in the future, and you have to guess...
when you do missions you often adapt to what the mission is. That often involves removing gear that isn't deemed essential for the mission. There was no armor plate in earlier history troops fought without body armor, so leaving it behind isn't dangerous or stupid. Body armor is a recent thing in the past decades. When i was in the military in 90 we only had kevlar vests, no body armor plates. Such things were added during conflicts in later years, same with armored humvees, they weren't needed until the military encountered traps and explosives in desert gorilla fighting. You adapt. If you need to get somewhere fast you aren't going to lug your armor or rucksacks for such missions, or for short missions. You drop your gear at a collection point and move out, and pick it up after.
Yeah basic armor and carrier(with ammo and other kit) weight is somewhere around 25-30 pounds then you have a 7-9 pound rifle then the other kit you carry(assault pack battle belt etc) (sometimes as much as 80-100 pounds of gear total)(for a basic rifleman… light machine gunners and grenadier load outs could be heavier… my friend said his gearset was usually 90 pounds on a light loadout(249 SAW gunner)
If I remember correctly it wasn't actually their fault, because in reality the version of the Ranger Body Armor they were using didn't even have back plates, this battle was one of the reasons in the mk 2 version of the vest they added back plates.
Something that gets overlooked in this film are the men of the Navy SEAL's Gold Squadron, who drove around in an unarmored Humvee with the convoy and the Air Force contingent of Combat Controllers. The Pararescuemen you see roping into Wolcott's crash site, Master Sergeant Scott Fales and Technical Sergeant Tim "Wilky" Wilkinson (Ty Burrell of Modern Family) are somewhat represented. There were like four or five Special Tactics Squadron airmen working as part of the Delta element, so their gear all looks the same. There is a great book called Battle of Mogadishu that has six stories from six men involved in the battle, including editor and former AF Combat Controller Dan Schilling and then Master Sergeant Matt Eversmann. The book Black Hawk Down does a good job capturing the chaos from both sides, including a few local Somalis caught in the fighting. The battle is so much more insane than you'd expect.
Not often, do I find myself wanting to comment twice on a video. But one other thing that I wanted to mention. Each, and every actor that participated in the film, all went through a "boot camp" where they learned what it meant to be a Ranger, and a Delta Force operative. And at the end of the school, each actor received a letter placed under their door. Written, and signed by a member of the Ranger Regiment whom participated in Operation Gothic Serpent, which read "Thank you for telling our story accurately". And per your question, as to whether or not people knew of the existence of "Delta Force" It was because of this mission, that Clinton had to reveal it's existence. Before this, Delta Force was about as black ops as you could get.
The biggest weakness of the movie is that they didn’t make it clear roads were being blocked in real-time to stop the wheeled vehicles. Those stacks of tires were showing up n front of the convoy, and were hard to spot from the chopper in time to get the route learned.
There is not a Ranger or Delta guy who wouldn't go back out there, or volunteer to fight against all odds. That's just the type of dude you are dealing with in these kind of units. There were also a few DevGru operators at that fight, as well. Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart are the two Delta snipers who asked to go down alone to rescue the downed pilot. Heroes and Medal of Honor recipients.
My step dad was a ranger in the humvees on this mission and made it through with just some cuts and bruises. His job was clearing buildings . He said the movie and all the events, even the “sombody needs to wash the blood out of the humvees” was real and in fact when they washed the humvees out, they reported brains, chunks of flesh and blood nearly 1” thick. Dan is an absolute living legend for surviving this. Love him so much! He even gave talks about this specific day to multiple classes at my school, for history of course.
the US Bombed a meeting full of clan elders that wanted to presure Aidiid to stop fighting they thought he was there, they killed 200 that's when the whole city went mad ps. it's funny how they left it outta movie 😒
Because 200 in an attempt to stop one of the key figures isnt the same as 300,000 dead through murder and starvation based on clan beef. Funny how you left that out...
Yeah, I'm surprised nobody talks about that. The fact that the entire city was friendly with them, until they killed the clan elders for no reason... Keep in mind, the general public perception of the US vs UN was almost same before this event.
portrayal yes, real event not so much. because of this movie, our Malaysian army send an official letter to Hollywood about why there's no involvement of Malaysian army while we saving US army asses but Hollywood said it just a movie. so now we producing what actually happened in that event, the movie title is MALLBATT: MISI BAKARA and will be release this august
On Helicopters. The Tail Rotor is how a helicopter Turns Left and Right, or stays oriented. Without the tail rotor, the helicopter will begin an uncontrollable spin because of the rotation of the Main Rotors, and inevitably, crash. On unexplored ordinance. Yes, when a rocket, a grenade or an artillery shell land but do not explode, that doesn’t mean that they *wont* explode. The explosives are still in them, and can be detonated if mishandled. Thousands of tons of unexploded bombs and shells are found all over the world from wars long gone, and people mistakenly believe that they are inert, and as a result, many people die by messing with them.
I highly recommend you watch BAND OF BROTHERS, an award winning epic WWII Miniseries based on a true story about Easy Company of the 101st Airborne Division.
Because it was basically sponsored by the US army it's quite censored. It doesn't mention the fact that approximately 80% of the Somali casualties were civilians (gunmen used crowds as human shields, and the rangers opened fire on the crowds). Or how badass the Pakistani and Malaysian soldiers were rescuing the Rangers/Delta. Operation Gothic Serpent was an overall failure. Grimes wasn't a real person either. But impressively the run out is real, it became known as the Mogadishu mile.
I suspect that it would be difficult to find large crowds of unarmed civilians just hanging around an active combat zone to hide your militia members in. Civilian casualties are estimated high because of the density of population in the area, not because they were actively in the streets, and nowhere near your bullsh!t number.
@@RexFuturi if you don't like the numbers, take it up with the ICRC. As for the crowds, it's very easy to get an angry mob in a warzone, especially if you're going up against someone as hated as the US were. Don't forget that this happened mere months after US Cobra helicopters attacked and destroyed a meeting between moderate clan leaders who were discussing mediation between Aidid and the UN, killing 50 people.
FYI...Gary Gordon...aka "Gordy" was played by Nikolaj Coster Waldau...aka...Jaime Lannister from Game of Thrones. Also...even more unexpected...the Pararescue soldier that was hanging the IV inside the first downed helicopter, was played by Ty Burrell...aka...Phil Dunphy from Modern Family. I served from '97-2001 and had the honor of crossing paths with some of the soldiers that took part in Operation Gothic Serpent. Heroes!
This is a Ridley Scott movie. His films tend to potray lots of tension and intensity. This is by far the most intense war movie made in Hollywood. It's like a tsunami of combat, its non stop.
but sadly it's not accurate. they removed Malaysian army who save US army. because of that, now Malaysian is now producing a real event movie called MALLBATT MISI BAKARA and will be release this august based on retelling of Malaysian army survivors
So to give more detail into the situation and to answer some of your logic: 1. The area which they show in the movie isn’t completely accurate to Somalia at the time. While the main market area was slightly more urbanised it wasn’t anything on the level which the movie shows. Most of the buildings were more on par with shantytown shacks including around both areas the helicopters went down. 2. The Black Hawk and Little Birds were actually apart of a linked Special Operations unit who had quite a bit of experience in these types of operations and having supported Delta in several operations prior. 3. Blackburns slip wasn’t due to a RPG but just sheer bad luck and inexperience. 3.5. The hit on the first Blackhawk also wasn’t as planned as the movie shows. It was actually more like the 2nd with a spontaneous RPG shot from the ground. 4. Delays between the convoy and Delta in communication didn’t help the situation. Both were in idea that the other would inform eachother to evacuate the prisoners to one another. This delay actually helped allow the militia to build up across the city and push closer to the convoy. 5. Throughout the movie you constantly question why the convoy isn’t getting out immediately with the prisoners. This is actually a rule of the US military to never leave a man behind, that includes the dead and wounded. A convoy like there’s being deployed to secure the crash site and alongside a CSAR would be quite effective at holding and evacuating the area quickly. 4.1. One thing the movie kind of misplays towards the two air controllers trying to assist the convoys movements is that the reason they couldn’t coordinate the barricades was that they were literally being built by the second as the convoy moved. On several occasions the Ranger convoy came upon them actually being constructed in their front to direct them away and into confusion. This was an actual tactic developed by the Somali militia due to prior raids by UN and US forces. 4.2. The movie also downplays the crash site 1 situation quite a bit. The lone delta holding himself was true and he died after evacuation having suffered I think 16 wounds. What they do miss is the 15 men deployed to secure the sight even before Blackburn arrived. This was a group of 5 Delta, 7 Rangers, 2 Pararescure Jumpers and a Combat Controllers. This is known as a Combat Search and Rescue formation designed for this type of situation. These guys actually set up the perimeter and held the area as more men came in across the day and evening. 5. The second crash site also wasn’t fully neglected either. A part of McKnights convoy was sent towards it, however like the primary convoy it to met the same situation as the 1st with hasty barricades and mass small arms fire proving to much. Both convoys would relink after a time and with half their number wounded or KIA they had to make the call to retreat. The 1st split off of the 3 humvees does play out quite accurate to how it happened tho by the time they got out almost everyone in it was wounded. - the Humvees were very lightly armoured with only their thin Kevlar plates to hold back the fire. Yeah it was a lot more sketch that you think. 6. The movie does misplay the contribution of 10th Mountain Ranger and the Pakistani Forces in the area. Not only did both units have troops already sent out into the city on hearing the situations growing stress, they also had their own hard and brutal fight to get to the crash site alone. 6.1. Interestingly a Pakastinian version of “black hawk down” wasn’t taking place to far away from the main one either. Tho without the helicopter. During the advance to get the Rangers and CSAR around the crash site, 2nd platoon of Company A had become separated and hit in ambush. The Malaysian crewmen alongside the 10th mountain troops ended up in a long drawn out firefight for hours until relived by fire support from a USMC super cobra and a 160th SOAR Black Hawk (same unit that the two other black hawks came from). 6.2. It’s also notable that the UN Pakistanian and Malaysian were already doing hard fighting around the “hot zone” for many months before and after the operation. And even during the operation many of these units were dealing with the spill over of fighting into their areas. 6.3. As for them being unaware the the situation fully. Yes and no. The US heads had not fully informed the UN forces of the situation as to stop a leak of information (the UN forces did have Somali members assisting them in work and operations and the US forces having a bad bias towards the UN forces thinking they’d be loose lipped if given information). However, their was contact about stuff that was shared as well as the fact that once the operation was underway and ongoing the UN forces did have an idea of what was happening. 7. For the minor things you asked about. 7.1. Why were the Rangers being cocky? Well simply for many it was their first time in combat, others had seen combat but the situation were more overwhelmingly in their favour which breeds a thinking towards that (good example was alot of the Ukrainian volunteers who went over initially left due to this. Alot of those with prior military experience had it from being in Afghanistan and Iraq where they had overwhelming firepower and support. Being on the opposite side of that didn’t bode well for many who ended up leaving quick); and cause they did expect this to be an in and out situation. 7.2. Every branch has their rivalry, it’s more inter branch/service dun to pick on one another and upshot the other guys who’s the better unit. You can see it during the movie with the safety situation. Special Force operators do keep them on safety but some don’t, and when the Ranger Captain tried to big chest on the Delta, the remark “this is my safety” was the reply to get bent. Both have experience but the Delta lads known when to be disciplined and when to be lax more. The Ranger Captain was more trying to set example for his own lads too, to not go overly acting like advanced operators when clearly not. 7.3. As above “no man left behind” pulling the convoy out wasn’t an option at that point. Remember they still expected to have the element of surprise, speed and firepower to get them through this quick. Problem was the small delays and splitting of forces caused all 3 to fall out of favour and into the militias hands. 7.4. Throws like that do happen. Remember alot of these guys back in their youth and younger days could have been quite decent sports players and many who end up serving could oh actually went further in their sports careers but choose s military one instead. So a throw like that very likely could of happened. - if memory serves the guy who did it was known to be a pretty decent baseball player in his senior years. 7.5. You can probably see why he’s going back out reading the above. Members of 10th Mountain alongside UN forces were still engaged at this point and in truth for several days after. 7.6. The crash site 2 situation is very real. Those two delta sniper done a extremely impressive job with that one. 7.7. One bit of interesting exaggeration the movie does is actually in the Somali favour. The man they capture at the start in his car does happen. However, after shooting his cars radiator he didn’t just sit their and get captured, nah he fled to a gas station where he was eventually apprehended.
Gosh while I remembered a few known actors from this the 1 time I tried watching it, I now recognize quite a few others who are better known now. Like- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau from GOTs, Tim Hardy, and etc. Can't remember if y'all have already watched it but, try out- 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, Zero Dark Thirty and 12 Strong. All based on true stories.
My favorite war film. I was amazed when i was a kid and spent alot of time over the years breaking down everything. Watched documentaries, interviews from soldiers and real news footage. The movie is pretty accurate. Some people complain that it's not like the book But I think the movie is just more focused on the event.
you are wrong though, if it really accurate, why zero Malaysian army involved while the truth is we saving your army asses? because of this, we Malaysian producing a new movie based on this real event. the movie will be release this august called MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA
@Bobo Boy for one i did not say it was really accurate i said it was pretty accurate. 2 the general did say they wanted the Pakistanis and malaysians in the film. The malaysians brought the APCs and the Pakistanis brought tanks but ran away after getting into a fight. The movie did not focus much at all on the rescue operation that's why you didn't see much. This movie was about what happened to the u.s. soldiers and what they went through during THEIR mission.
Col Steele was my Brigade Commander during my 2nd deployment to Iraq 2005-2006. He was commander of 3rd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division. He was an awesome commander. If we needed anything he made sure we got it.
At 7:37 with the "This is my safety" it went down a bit differently IRL. The m16/m4 can't go on safety when the hammer is forward. His rifle is empty chamber with the hammer down and a loaded mag and he got tired of trying to explain that to the Captain so he made a sarcastic remark.
What most people don't know is that SEAL Team 6 or DEVGRU was also there to. Some of them were giving sniper cover. One SEAL Team 6 member said he had to bribe a fishermen to hide and get to safety.
Delta Snipers Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon were both posthumously awarded the Purple Heart. They held off the crowd by themselves for about 3-4 hours and only died due to the crowd size and because they ran out of ammunition.
Two interesting things i know about the op. are: 1) The op. pattern used by the US for the movie raid was the same pattern for other raids done before the movie raid. That's why insurgents are so effective and reactive against US troops. That was a bold move by US, classic underestimating the enemy like in 'nam. 2) There was a large Italian detachment which was not involved in the raid due to American suspicions of the Italians: They thought the Italians were providing information to Aidid's troops. The fact is that was obviously not true and the Italians could have provided armored support to the op.
At this point Delta is acknowledged to be a thing but really wasn't back then. They 're a Tier 1 special forces unit along with DEVGRU (aka SEAL Team 6). They're also considered the best of the best. Another fun fact any branch of the military technically can join that means SEALS.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 has a multiplayer map based on this named Bakaara, complete with a downed Black Hawk at the center of the map with a usable side-mounted minigun. 8:00 Correct. The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (aka. Delta Force, Combat Applications Group (CAG), Army Compartmented Elements (ACE), "Task Force Green" within join operations) is a highly-classified (and paradoxically well-known) Spec Ops unit of the US Army. It is the Army's equivalent the Navy's DEVGRU (aka. SEAL Team Six) and the Air Force's 24th Special Tactics Squadron (they don't have a cool nickname). Pretty much everything about Delta Force is kept absolutely secret, with the unit only being publicly acknowledged whenever they take part in a major operation or someone from it dies. While it consists mostly of Army personnel, members of other branches have been part of it.
30:07 the real DeTomasso was unhappy about that movie scene. He was a Lieutenat, Eversman a Staff Sergeant at that time. In reality, he was the commanding officer at the crahside because Captain Steel was on the way, but only gave orders over radio.
i love it when reactors suggest tactics and advise what to do in the middle of a chaotic battle scene. it might be hard to tell in printed word, but that was sarcasm.
13:05 its not cocky.. its a matter of convenience. Trauma plate was just damn uncomfortable. You still have your vest but that thing was like wearing a car door on your chest. When you do this stuff day and night you start giving in to a little more risk to be comfortable.
So in the real mission, the American forces had 10 blackhawks total. They crashed or disabled 8 of them in this operation. The 2 that crashed in the city, 1 crash landed at the stadium, 2 at the port area, and the rest at the airfield. Those aircraft got shot up so bad, yet were able to preform and hold together until the aircrews could get into a safe location.
but this movie is very misleading, they one who saved US army is Malaysian army but this movie just said the name without actually showing how we save US army asses
The Book is more or less a transcription of events on what actually happened. Lots of extra details and a more accurate telling of what happened and when. The movie is of course a Hollywood "remix". Some things are shuffled around for the sake of simpler story telling and movie run time. Big picture tells the story well enough. Would definitely recommend the book to anyone who would like to learn more about the events that took place.
this movie is what I called propaganda movie. it's portraying US army as incredible strong even they lose early without even showing who saving their asses. so because of that, Malaysia is now producing a real event of what actually happened. the movie will be released in August this year called MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA. Malaysian army saving US ARMY asses
@boboboy8189 I don't know, bro it may look like the US Army are the only ones saving them but you also have the UN and the 10th Mountain and plus it's already 2 houds worth of movie and shoving more time isn't really that worth it considering its very hard to cover all events of the battle that took an entire day and compact it into two hours
@@skulldozer1462 they can add 10 minutes of Malaysian army came and saving them but they didn't do that or they actually want to hide the truth? our military officer sending an official letters to Hollywood and what they said, it just a movie..... yes right, those american soldier still talking about Malaysian soldier who save them, even one of us died there just to save them. all those veteran still speak about that but were ignored by interviewer in every documentary they did after this movie released
Listen to the voice that starts narrating at 57:55 when the credits roll, that's Nikolaj Coster Waldau aka Jaime Lannister. He played one of the snipers that tried to defend the black hawk with the pilot that was captured by the militia.
Can you imagine not intervene as UN in Africa? Rwanda, Ghana, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Mali, Niger and Nigeria. Many nations fight against themselves many nations are falling apart from inside thanks to clans and warlords. It is since end of colonialism and it been there since ancient times. Literally Africa (mostly Sub-Saharan part) will never change thanks differences in faith and ethnic groups. From worldwide perspective it is mostly a waste of recourses or men power when you try to make it change.
Oh dang this is one of the most epic war movies. Like every actor is in this movie too. Tobey, Tom Sizemore, Tom Hardy, Matt Hartnett, Aaron Eckhart maybe, William Fichtner, Obi-wan Kenobi himself Ewan MacGregor, and more.
My grandmother used to baby sit one of the men who was sent in after the initial attack and who lost his life. He was from Iowa and a very kind person.
Reality is often a lot more incredible than fiction, Hacksaw Ridge is a great example of this. Mel Gibson said they actually removed the crazier things that actually happened from the movie because he thought the audience wouldn't be able to believe it.😅
1st SFOD-D is the technical name for the Delta guys, they “didn’t exist” for a long time but you can’t keep everything a secret. Besides even just knowing a name doesn’t really give away their tasks and purpose. But they are selected from other special operations units, so they are the best of the best.
A Malaysian Movie coming out in August 2023 titled "MALBATT: Misi Bakara" is a movie about the same event from the perspective of the UN Peacekeepers from Malaysia assisting with the rescue mission.
black helmets are delta force, literally the most secretive and most trained forces in the US military... rangers are also elite but not quite that caliber. the black birds and black hawks are from SOAR which are basically the delta force of aviation... they are the best trained pilots
8:04 “Delta Force” isn’t really a thing. Sorta. That’s been one of the different public names for Army Special Forces Operational Detachment. Although for the time period for Black Hawk Down, they would have been called “CAG” instead, for “Combat Applications Group.” The name Delta came later, and now it’s something else again. But they’re direct action element Army special forces.
8:00 Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, it was "neither confirm nor deny" territory, but it was formed as a response to the string of terrorist attacks in the 1970s in 1977. Their primary mission is counter-terrorism, but they also do hostage rescue, direct action (aka assassination), covert infiltration, and special recon. The official title is 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta (SFOD-D), but they are also known as Delta Force, The Unit, Combat Applications Group, or by their Spec-Ops title, Task Force Green. They have special permission to wear civilian clothes, grow their hair out long, grow beards, and the like so that they can blend in with a group or population while gathering covert intelligence. They are one of the three Tier 1 spec ops groups, with the other two being the 24th Special Tactics Squadron of the Air Force, and the Navy's DEVGRU (aka Seal Team 6). Once the internet became prolific, Delta was officially acknowledged as existing and its Tier 1 rating was revealed. The Delta Force operators in Mogadishu were from C Assault Squadron. They have 6 squadrons, A through G, with A-D being assault, E being aviation (that has some serious black ops history with the CIA, look up "Seaspray"), and G is the Advanced Force Operations squadron tasked with clandestine operations and covert intelligence, including long-term infiltration of terrorist groups
The crazy thing was the mission was considered a "success" cuz they got the guys they wanted. Indeed, war is hell. I read the book and the story is pretty close to that. Grimes was a composite of a few characters from the book, which makes sense when making a 2-hour movie. I don't think the strobes they used to spot the enemy were in the book but the overall gist of the story was right on. Jerrry Bruckenheimer produced and he has talked about how he tried to remain true to the story and honor the 18 dead. Well done movie about the real hell of actual war.
this movie is still not accurate though. this is why my country is producing a real event of black hawk dawn. our country saving US army asses but it never shown in this movie. this new movie will be release this august and the title is MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA. it's Malaysian army point of view of what actually happened. the survivor of this event still alive today and director is taking notes from them
Guys, if youre on a war movie binge, then please, PLEASE, watch Tears of the Sun if you havent already. It is such a CRIMINALLY underrated movie, and honestly one of Bruce Willis' best movies IMO.
Mogadishu shook the Pentagon to the core. It realized the future is fighting poor people in urban centers and has completely changed its doctrine since the early 1990s. And it includes American cities in those plans.
There was true heroism on that day however the film fails to show that in the build up to the mission, dozens of innocent locals had been killed during a prior US raid in search of Aidid. That raid was even condemned by the UN for its lack of accountability towards casualties and the politics that followed. So when these teams went in, anger was in the air and waiting for them which is why ordinary people took up arms. One must know, otherwise there's a risk of dehumanising the Somalis who are shown in the film.
Quick answer: “No” you cannot fly a chopper without a tail rotor! The tail rotor provides counter rotation to allow for stability. Without it, the chopper will rotate in the opposite direction of the main rotor and your foot pedals (which control yaw) become useless. I’ve flown a Robinson R-44 helicopter several times. If a chopper looses a tail rotor, it’s going to crash most likely in a flat spin (as depicted here). *Retired Air Force aircraft maintenance technician.
The Black Hawk Down book should be required reading and should serve as a master class on why the U.S. shouldn't go abroad in search of dragons to slay. Government intervention, whether it be foreign or domestic, is a utopian progressive worldview that only leads to worse outcomes for both America and the countries we choose to "help".
It’s a very complex issue, which I think should be analyzed on a case by case basis, but yeah. Most of these war movies that we watch should be required viewing.
Besides the original "Black Hawk Down" book by Mark Bowden, I recommend "In the Company of Heroes" by Michael Durant, the pilot of Super 64. It goes into his time in captivity as well as some of his events and actions leading up to Mogadishu, such as Desert Storm and his time in Korea. There's also some insight that may seem contrary to what the book and film portray, such as Durant getting smacked in the face with a severed arm instead of a rifle.
I've always wondered if a Ranger officer would actually refer to Delta operators as "undisciplined cowboys," given that he would know they're the most elite troops in the entire military and would have demonstrated a level of discipline that was off-the-charts.
not sure if you are super into video games or not but for those who are & find it cool like me, The voice actor for Sergeant Sanderson (if you don't remember him somehow he is the sergeant speaking here 35:55) also voices "Sandman" in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3. (i know the name similarities make it funnier) from someone who grew up on the modern warfare series as a kid i immediately noticed the actor portraying Sanderson voiced sandman because they sound the exact same and even some things he has said in the movie I'm pretty sure he has said in the game. but yeah i just found it super fascinating lol. they're also both rangers that have worked with delta force, could be a stretch but i believe sandman easily could've been inspiration from sergeant Sanderson. there are just so many similarities here😂
So, blow by blow:
1, one of the chalks was dropped in the wrong position, a block too far north, so they never had the four corners of the target building covered as they wanted. You can see this in the film on the aerial view the general gets, but it’s never mentioned.
2, Blackburn didn’t fall dodging an RPG, he was just in-experienced and didn’t hold his rope correctly and fell.
3, Delta secured the targets, but the trucks to carry away the prisoners were wating for them outside, and Delta thought the trucks were going to call them saying when it was clear, and the trucks thought that delta were going to call *them* to say they were coming out, so both just stood there on opposite sides of a closed door waiting for the other to call, giving militia time to build up in numbers.
4, civilians gathered to rubber-neck, an angry armed man riding a cow appeared distracting everyone, and the Somali national alliance had been studying previous US raids and planning for months how to use a downed helicopter as bait to lure in a rescue teams for an ambush, and how to quicky throw up road blocks on the most likely reinforcement routes, so it was a perfect storm of a good hostile planning and everything going wrong for the rangers at once.
5, in one of the crashing helicopters (I forget which one), the pilots intentionally steered himself into the ground nose- first, killing himself but saving the guys in the back.
6, This films only real flaw as I judge it is int underplays just how badass the Malaysian and Pakistani troops were, because once they were actually informed what was going on (the pentagon was concerned about them leaking secrets so never told them about the op), they actually did a lot of the fighting to contain the Militia so the extraction of the rangers could take place, with a Malaysian condor APC holding off waves of attacks with a 20mm cannon so the final vehicle column could extract.
As I understand it, the tactic of using groups of men all armed with RPGs to bring down the Blackhawks was new, and that the SNA had taken down a single helicopter in a "test run" of the tactic a week before the Battle of Mogadishu. Once they had success with one, they had even more groups armed with RPGs to respond to the next US helicopter mission over the SNA part of the city, right?
but Pakistani actually retreat when the dusk came.
@@iKvetch558 Right, at least acording to Col. Sharif Hassan Giumale's statememts.
Let's not forget 10th Mountain 2-14 Inf. They got a Presidential Unit Citation for their conduct.
For note 5, the pilot was Cliff "Elvis" Wolcott.
According to his friend, Michael Durant (Super 64) in his book "In the Company of Heroes," Wolcott helped develop the DAP (Black Hawk gunship) and was a legend among Black Hawk pilots.
Some of the pilots flying the Blackhawks in the movie were actually there during the battle.
That’s what makes the movie so good for me, the realism, although some of it is obviously different, it still has this realistic effect, a lot of that comes with the actors training, done by actual rangers, and operators that gave them tips, like don’t stand too close to the walls.
Wrong... only the Little Bird Pilot, who saved Bush played himselfe.
@@alexanderbaluch1860 while CWO Keith Jones did play himself, many of the pilots were there in 1993 with Task Force Ranger. Even a couple of the Ranger extras, like Sergeant John Collett, were present.
The guys that I would work with as a NAVY SEAL would be 3rd Battalion/75th Ranger Regiment
And the C Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) and I would kill some bad guys with them and go on Missions with them too and so I would work with these guys as a NAVY SEAL and just go on missions with these guys and really kill some bad guys with them and I want to work with these guys as a Navy Seal I wanna be a NAVY SEAL because I want to fight for the fallen brothers and sisters that are dead from the bombing blast on August 26th 2021 in Kabul Afghanistan like these guys
But I would also die for these guys and I wouldn’t care if I get put on a cross by the bad guys but as a Navy Seal I would work with these guys the
C squadron Special Forces Operational Delta Detachment (1st SFOD-D) and the 3rd Battalion/75th Ranger Regiment and go on Missions with these guys but as a NAVY SEAL I would want to work with these guys
Marine Corp : SGT Johnny Rosario Pichardo
Marine Corp : Sgt Nicole Gee
Marine Corp : Staff Sgt Darian T Hoover
Marine Corp : Lance Cpl David L Espinoza
Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Hunter Lopez
Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Rylee J McCollum
Marine Corp : Lance Cpl Dylan R Merola
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Navy Hospital : Corpsman Maxton W Soviak
Army : Staff Sgt Ryan C Knauss
@@kahoaliiaiu7130why are you participating in stolen valor? You say you were a navy seal yet say you want to be a seal? Makes no sense
Those Delta Snipers knew they were going to die by going back. They knew once they went in that there was a good chance. And they still made every bullet count. Mad respect.
They both received the Medal Of Honor 😊
RIP to Tom Sizemore, he was an amazing actor gone to soon. no matter what film he played, his presence was bigger than life. one of my all-time favorite movies with him in it is The RELIC. now that is a film I recommend for you too see and react to it here with your viewers. I read the book as well back in '95 and the movie premiered in '97. please say you will give a try someday soon!!
The Relic is your favorite Tom Sizemore movie?! I remember seeing The Relic in theatres and it was entertaining but he was in Heat 1995 and Saving Private Ryan 1998. Those are amazing movies that he did a great job in. Heat had a legendary cast with an amazing story.
@@secludedmisanthrope6388 I saw those as well over the years but remember I read the book first and fell in love with it and his character Detective Lt Vincent D’ Agosta along with the protagonist Margo Green. I’ve watched that film a million times and still admire his tenacity to make sure those he protects in the museum makes out! His role was solid and he nailed it just like always does in his many films!!! Underrated actor and deserved many awards in my opinion. Plus I would like them to react to it soon, I hope 🤞
@@NovaQuinn_007 I love The Relic too and got the book after watching the movie a couple hundred times lol. I wanted more of the story! Who knew museums could be so scary after dark. :)
Oh gosh I didn’t know he passed away, til I checked it after readying your comment. Actually to be honest I never realised he is the SGT from Saving Private Ryan as well. But he was definitely an awesome actor. 😢
He was a scumbag crackhead who abused women. Good riddance.
Col. Dan McKnight said his calm, almost blasé attitude was intentional. He was very aware of the mortal danger, but as commander he had to appear calm so the young troops would stay calm & believe there was no need for alarm.
Great movie choice for Memorial Day gents.
"Gordy's gone man. I'll be outside" hits hard even after all these years.
its great movie for those who never knew the true story what actually happened. because of this my country will producing a real event what actually happened, the movie will be release in August this year title MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA
22:50 A casualty is defined as someone who was injured or killed in battle. Blackburn, the guy who fell from the chopper, was thus the first casualty.
Four Blackhawks were actual shot down that day. Super 6-2 was heavily damaged by an RPG after dropping Shugart and Gordon at the 6-4 crash site. They managed to limp outside the city limits to the port and out down by the water. Super 6-8 managed to get back to the airfield after dropping the Combat Search And Rescue medics at the 6-1 crash. Super 6-6 made resupply runs during the night by dropping ammo and I think medical supplies inside courtyards the Rangers and Delta Operators occupied.
They weren't shot down then. There's a difference between shot down vs. heavily damaged and being able to safely land
@@tawogtrailers But they didn't safely land because they crashed. They were shot down because they crashed due to being hit by enemy fire. Super 6-2 was hit by an RPG while covering Shughart and Gordon, they crash landed in the Newport Area and were rescued by the Pakistani and Malaysian Peacekeepers. Super 6-8 crash landed when they got back to the airport. Super 6-6 was the only one that got hit which landed safely.
@@taiwandxt6493 I stand corrected, you are right
@@tawogtrailersTaking enemy fire and being forced to land is a shoot down and when the aircraft can’t leave under its own power, it’s been shot down all the same.
I think the reason the emotionality of this so powerful is because everything is happening in real time. There's no back stories to make a death more impactful. Like he said, "It's just war."
My favorite game to play is trying to guess whether or not the next week's movie will show up when James talks about it. Is it going to or not? We never know
37:06 Jeff Struecker, the motivator, became a priest and finished his carreer as a major
50:40 is a recoilless rifle. They’re anti armor guns basically like a tank cannon but smaller caliber. Something like a m40 but much shorter and mounted on a pretty low tech tripod or something that could fit on a truck.
Or, like the Italians and French did, mounted on a freaking Vespa scooter.
I lived about a mile from where Micheal Durant and his wife lived when this happened. I also went to high school with Micheal Durants wife, though she was a year ahead of me. The unit that flies for Delta, Seal Team Six, and pretty much most of the Special Operations Units is here at Ft. Campbell.
Thank you for this. My cousin Gary passed away in this battle and we honor his memory every memorial day and his birthday.
They came up with a powder that cauterizes wounds like the femoral artery wound because of this battle. They eventually developed it into a patch that is easier to control. What gets me is seeing the bodies of the troops being desecrated. That really happened and I believe I remember hearing that some of the family, unfortunately, saw photos and video of it on the news.
yea well people tend to do that to enemies. Even US troops do that to enemies and prisoners.
Randy and gordon.
Heroes, they went into that crash site knowing they were going to die and they did it anyway.
and they accomplished nothing - Durant was going to be taken prisoner with or without them
@@JamesJoyce12 That's the most hideously disrespectful thing I've ever heard anyone say. Durant was in the pilot's seat. His leg was broken and had no way of moving out of his position. The copilot Ray got out on his side, was ambushed and killed by the responding crowd. Two crew chiefs were in the back portion. Durant said he saw movement from behind, which only confirms at least one of them survived the impact.
After Shugart and Gordon arrived, Durant was put on the opposite side of the crashed chopper. The site was overrun after about 45 minutes. Durant ran out of ammo. He still had a holstered sidearm, but forgot about it during the chaos. The first person to find him saw he was alive, yet not attacking and took it upon himself to fire into the air to force everyone else back. The overwhelming majority present wanted to kill him. Durant was later chained in a locked room and shot in the shoulder before the taped interview was made public of him being interrogated.
It's reported the remaining bodies at Super Six 4 had their limbs dismembered, with their bodies dragged throughout the streets. Amateur video was taken of this and made public. So no, kindly stfu at how fabricating Durant would've been taken prisoner regardless. You clearly don't know what tf you're talking about.
@@digidv85 You have said not a thing - all the crew died except Durant and he was taken hostage and two additional Delta operators died - changing not a thing - so the net cost was two Delta operators. You have provided no evidence that Durant would have necessarily died absent the sacrifice of the two Delta operators and even then it was 2:1.
@@JamesJoyce12 It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and pretend like you know anything. The point is they tried and defended him and held off enemy fire for a long time, they volunteered, it was their choice.
Clearly you don't have honor or respect and have never been in the service. Probably a coward in real life judging by your tone.
@@JamesJoyce12 You really need to stop. I’m not going to listen to any more of your retarded bullshit. Again: trapped in the pilot seat. Only armed with a MP5, maybe a few extra magazines. Crowd of hundreds attacking the site. Do the fucking math.
Thank you for honoring this movie for Memorial Day gentlemen. You've earned a subscriber.
Thanks brother. More movies to come.
16:39 For the production, all of the big name Ranger actors went to a 1 week version of Ranger School to familiarize them with terminology, tactics, how to hold a rifle accurately, etc. The Delta Force actors actually went to the 1st Special Warfare Training Group at Fort Bragg for an intensive 2 week commando course. The actors playing the pilots were given multiple lectures by Mike Durant himself, and a lot of one-on-one coaching to make sure all their movements and terminology were dead on right.
For any airborne scene that isn't close enough to show faces, those were active Rangers in 2001 from 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, with all of the Little Birds and Black Hawks provided by, and flown by, the 160th SOAR, the same unit that was there in 1993. The pilot waving to the kid at 16:51 is Keith Jones, who was actually there on Oct 3-4, 1993. In fact, almost all of the pilot extras (ie not the "hero" characters) were aviators and operators actually involved in the Battle of Mogadishu, with some even getting a few speaking lines.
Not sure if it’s coming up but Hacksawridge is a fantastic war movie to watch if you haven’t already
@@devenmellor Yup exactly that. The movie primarily focuses on Desmond doss.
but the realism in that movie is poo poo
@@Howwhen_IQof9 not really
@@latrelljack8751 the whole 2nd half of the movie was poo poo. In reality the ridge was a gentle uphill, not a cliff. Aside from the terrible movements and guys bunched together for no reason.
@@Howwhen_IQof9 I’ll respectfully disagree. Second half of that movie is beautiful
Do you remember when this happened??
Holy shit still remember this…
Can y’all watch Evil Dead Rise?
Yes. I was in 3rd grade and we took on lots of donations/grains at our school to send to aid the situation there.
Yeah, among other lessons it was a great reminder that no plan survives contact with the enemy - plan and prepare the ground all you want but you have to be adaptable and call upon your training to improvise. You should watch a similar actioner based on real events, "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" (2016)
I was about 7.
My mom was the intel attaché for the 82nd airborne and was supposed to be there.
I can speculate as to why they didn't send her, being the only female in the unit, but I couldn't have been more grateful after seeing people being dragged out of helicopters on the news.
1993
Becoming one of my favorite reaction channels. Love your choices of movies and also the decent knowledge you have about the military in general to understand the subtler aspects of what the stories are about.
"Stay away from the walls"
Very true, at a shallow angle the ricochet sends them straight alongside that wall, never lean agains it.
One of my moms exs boyfriends was a veteran who wasnt there during this the mission but knew people who went on this mission and helped with the aftermath. He know those two men who sacrificed themselves to save Mike Durant. What he told me truly horrified still to this day. I wont go into details but those two deserved those medals and then some.
I love this movie. Its just different especially since most war films are time period movies or focus on the world wars.
The whole situation is so sad. Its still war. But this is one of those that wasnt won by anyone.
this movie is far from accurate. the one who save US army is Malaysian army and we will release an accurate version of what actually happened there in a movie called mallbatt : misi bakara in August this year
@@boboboy8189 You've spammed this same bullshit on a million comments, get a life
@@boboboy8189 No, this movie was a very faithful representation of the novel which is a completely factual recreation based on eyewitness interviews. There was some artistic license taken by combining certain characters and events as well as the use of IR strobes, but the movie is about >75% accurate.
I mean… the war hasn’t ended 30+ years later 😭
just weeks before washington denied re quest for armor and an AC-130 gunship to be on hand. They said it would be aggresive looking.
And ever since, the US has rightly shown absolutely no chill when it comes to optics of operations…
@@smoketinytom That wasn't due to Military Command. That was due to pressure from Politicians. Garrison also requested for Bradley fighting vehicles for the operation but that was also denied.
A friend of mine Chris Beetem was in this he played the guy who got shot in the back cause he took the plate out of his vest. He said they all went through training in a real military boot camp and it was hella hard work. It paid off though it added to the realism of the movie
sadly Hollywood changed a real event of what actually happened in that place. our Malaysian army actually save US Army but were ignored by Hollywood. our country send an official letter to Hollywood asking them why there's no Malaysian army and they said it just a movie. because of this, now we producing a real event of what happened in that place. the movie title is MALLBATT MISI BAKARA and will be release this august.
@@boboboy8189 I didn’t know that. Thank you for the information it’s sad that was overlooked
@boboboy8189 Yeah, the US government had to take some liberties with changing some aspects of the movie
@@boboboy8189 this is really sad, I went to google about it after reading your comment, as a Singaporean I must say we SEA boys definitely did a good job back then.
@@boboboy8189 They DO mention Malaysian forces in the movie. When General Garrion says: "Pakistanis, Malays, I want their tanks and APCs." 43:23
It's just that UN forces as a whole are not really portrayed, as the focus of the story is the US forces.
It's easy enough to _say_ it's obviously dumb to leave armor plates behind, but try running around wearing them sometime. That's a lot of weight, and it covers a pretty small portion of your body. Mobility is one of your weapons too, and giving it up for a very limited protection is not always the best choice. Especially when you haven't had a chance to read the script and know exactly what's going to happen in the future, and you have to guess...
when you do missions you often adapt to what the mission is. That often involves removing gear that isn't deemed essential for the mission. There was no armor plate in earlier history troops fought without body armor, so leaving it behind isn't dangerous or stupid. Body armor is a recent thing in the past decades. When i was in the military in 90 we only had kevlar vests, no body armor plates. Such things were added during conflicts in later years, same with armored humvees, they weren't needed until the military encountered traps and explosives in desert gorilla fighting. You adapt. If you need to get somewhere fast you aren't going to lug your armor or rucksacks for such missions, or for short missions. You drop your gear at a collection point and move out, and pick it up after.
Yeah basic armor and carrier(with ammo and other kit) weight is somewhere around 25-30 pounds then you have a 7-9 pound rifle then the other kit you carry(assault pack battle belt etc) (sometimes as much as 80-100 pounds of gear total)(for a basic rifleman… light machine gunners and grenadier load outs could be heavier… my friend said his gearset was usually 90 pounds on a light loadout(249 SAW gunner)
If I remember correctly it wasn't actually their fault, because in reality the version of the Ranger Body Armor they were using didn't even have back plates, this battle was one of the reasons in the mk 2 version of the vest they added back plates.
The grenade throw was made by Delta Operator Norm Hooten according to Bowdan's Black Hawk Down
Something that gets overlooked in this film are the men of the Navy SEAL's Gold Squadron, who drove around in an unarmored Humvee with the convoy and the Air Force contingent of Combat Controllers. The Pararescuemen you see roping into Wolcott's crash site, Master Sergeant Scott Fales and Technical Sergeant Tim "Wilky" Wilkinson (Ty Burrell of Modern Family) are somewhat represented. There were like four or five Special Tactics Squadron airmen working as part of the Delta element, so their gear all looks the same. There is a great book called Battle of Mogadishu that has six stories from six men involved in the battle, including editor and former AF Combat Controller Dan Schilling and then Master Sergeant Matt Eversmann. The book Black Hawk Down does a good job capturing the chaos from both sides, including a few local Somalis caught in the fighting. The battle is so much more insane than you'd expect.
Not often, do I find myself wanting to comment twice on a video. But one other thing that I wanted to mention. Each, and every actor that participated in the film, all went through a "boot camp" where they learned what it meant to be a Ranger, and a Delta Force operative. And at the end of the school, each actor received a letter placed under their door. Written, and signed by a member of the Ranger Regiment whom participated in Operation Gothic Serpent, which read "Thank you for telling our story accurately". And per your question, as to whether or not people knew of the existence of "Delta Force" It was because of this mission, that Clinton had to reveal it's existence. Before this, Delta Force was about as black ops as you could get.
For anyone interested in the history "The Operations Room" did an episode on the battle of Mogadishu. It's pretty good
my country is now producing this event. the movie will be released this august title MALLBATT: MISI BAKARA
Yeah that video is very cool and well done
This was just a huge clusterfuck. Those two guys who went to the crash site are legends!
The biggest weakness of the movie is that they didn’t make it clear roads were being blocked in real-time to stop the wheeled vehicles. Those stacks of tires were showing up n front of the convoy, and were hard to spot from the chopper in time to get the route learned.
There is not a Ranger or Delta guy who wouldn't go back out there, or volunteer to fight against all odds. That's just the type of dude you are dealing with in these kind of units.
There were also a few DevGru operators at that fight, as well.
Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart are the two Delta snipers who asked to go down alone to rescue the downed pilot. Heroes and Medal of Honor recipients.
Worth checking out The Operations Room to see just how accurate this is to what really happened - really informative video
My step dad was a ranger in the humvees on this mission and made it through with just some cuts and bruises. His job was clearing buildings
. He said the movie and all the events, even the “sombody needs to wash the blood out of the humvees” was real and in fact when they washed the humvees out, they reported brains, chunks of flesh and blood nearly 1” thick.
Dan is an absolute living legend for surviving this. Love him so much! He even gave talks about this specific day to multiple classes at my school, for history of course.
Wow…that’s incredible
the US Bombed a meeting full of clan elders that wanted to presure Aidiid to stop fighting they thought he was there, they killed 200 that's when the whole city went mad
ps. it's funny how they left it outta movie 😒
Because 200 in an attempt to stop one of the key figures isnt the same as 300,000 dead through murder and starvation based on clan beef. Funny how you left that out...
Yeah, I'm surprised nobody talks about that. The fact that the entire city was friendly with them, until they killed the clan elders for no reason... Keep in mind, the general public perception of the US vs UN was almost same before this event.
@@shreymehta02 Typical Americans, murdering 10x innocent people just to kill one guy and they ask why is the whole city fighting them. 🤔
This is arguably the most accurate portrayal of a modern battle, it blows line survivor away
portrayal yes, real event not so much. because of this movie, our Malaysian army send an official letter to Hollywood about why there's no involvement of Malaysian army while we saving US army asses but Hollywood said it just a movie.
so now we producing what actually happened in that event, the movie title is MALLBATT: MISI BAKARA and will be release this august
On Helicopters.
The Tail Rotor is how a helicopter Turns Left and Right, or stays oriented.
Without the tail rotor, the helicopter will begin an uncontrollable spin because of the rotation of the Main Rotors, and inevitably, crash.
On unexplored ordinance.
Yes, when a rocket, a grenade or an artillery shell land but do not explode, that doesn’t mean that they *wont* explode. The explosives are still in them, and can be detonated if mishandled.
Thousands of tons of unexploded bombs and shells are found all over the world from wars long gone, and people mistakenly believe that they are inert, and as a result, many people die by messing with them.
I highly recommend you watch BAND OF BROTHERS, an award winning epic WWII Miniseries based on a true story about Easy Company of the 101st Airborne Division.
Because it was basically sponsored by the US army it's quite censored. It doesn't mention the fact that approximately 80% of the Somali casualties were civilians (gunmen used crowds as human shields, and the rangers opened fire on the crowds). Or how badass the Pakistani and Malaysian soldiers were rescuing the Rangers/Delta. Operation Gothic Serpent was an overall failure. Grimes wasn't a real person either. But impressively the run out is real, it became known as the Mogadishu mile.
I suspect that it would be difficult to find large crowds of unarmed civilians just hanging around an active combat zone to hide your militia members in. Civilian casualties are estimated high because of the density of population in the area, not because they were actively in the streets, and nowhere near your bullsh!t number.
@@RexFuturi if you don't like the numbers, take it up with the ICRC. As for the crowds, it's very easy to get an angry mob in a warzone, especially if you're going up against someone as hated as the US were. Don't forget that this happened mere months after US Cobra helicopters attacked and destroyed a meeting between moderate clan leaders who were discussing mediation between Aidid and the UN, killing 50 people.
FYI...Gary Gordon...aka "Gordy" was played by Nikolaj Coster Waldau...aka...Jaime Lannister from Game of Thrones.
Also...even more unexpected...the Pararescue soldier that was hanging the IV inside the first downed helicopter, was played by Ty Burrell...aka...Phil Dunphy from Modern Family.
I served from '97-2001 and had the honor of crossing paths with some of the soldiers that took part in Operation Gothic Serpent. Heroes!
This is a Ridley Scott movie. His films tend to potray lots of tension and intensity. This is by far the most intense war movie made in Hollywood. It's like a tsunami of combat, its non stop.
but sadly it's not accurate. they removed Malaysian army who save US army. because of that, now Malaysian is now producing a real event movie called MALLBATT MISI BAKARA and will be release this august based on retelling of Malaysian army survivors
@@boboboy8189 The Malaysian army's contribution was minimal. They arrived at the end, when the battle was over. The Americans done all the fighting.
So to give more detail into the situation and to answer some of your logic:
1. The area which they show in the movie isn’t completely accurate to Somalia at the time.
While the main market area was slightly more urbanised it wasn’t anything on the level which the movie shows. Most of the buildings were more on par with shantytown shacks including around both areas the helicopters went down.
2. The Black Hawk and Little Birds were actually apart of a linked Special Operations unit who had quite a bit of experience in these types of operations and having supported Delta in several operations prior.
3. Blackburns slip wasn’t due to a RPG but just sheer bad luck and inexperience.
3.5. The hit on the first Blackhawk also wasn’t as planned as the movie shows. It was actually more like the 2nd with a spontaneous RPG shot from the ground.
4. Delays between the convoy and Delta in communication didn’t help the situation. Both were in idea that the other would inform eachother to evacuate the prisoners to one another. This delay actually helped allow the militia to build up across the city and push closer to the convoy.
5. Throughout the movie you constantly question why the convoy isn’t getting out immediately with the prisoners. This is actually a rule of the US military to never leave a man behind, that includes the dead and wounded.
A convoy like there’s being deployed to secure the crash site and alongside a CSAR would be quite effective at holding and evacuating the area quickly.
4.1. One thing the movie kind of misplays towards the two air controllers trying to assist the convoys movements is that the reason they couldn’t coordinate the barricades was that they were literally being built by the second as the convoy moved. On several occasions the Ranger convoy came upon them actually being constructed in their front to direct them away and into confusion.
This was an actual tactic developed by the Somali militia due to prior raids by UN and US forces.
4.2. The movie also downplays the crash site 1 situation quite a bit.
The lone delta holding himself was true and he died after evacuation having suffered I think 16 wounds.
What they do miss is the 15 men deployed to secure the sight even before Blackburn arrived.
This was a group of 5 Delta, 7 Rangers, 2 Pararescure Jumpers and a Combat Controllers. This is known as a Combat Search and Rescue formation designed for this type of situation.
These guys actually set up the perimeter and held the area as more men came in across the day and evening.
5. The second crash site also wasn’t fully neglected either. A part of McKnights convoy was sent towards it, however like the primary convoy it to met the same situation as the 1st with hasty barricades and mass small arms fire proving to much.
Both convoys would relink after a time and with half their number wounded or KIA they had to make the call to retreat.
The 1st split off of the 3 humvees does play out quite accurate to how it happened tho by the time they got out almost everyone in it was wounded.
- the Humvees were very lightly armoured with only their thin Kevlar plates to hold back the fire. Yeah it was a lot more sketch that you think.
6. The movie does misplay the contribution of 10th Mountain Ranger and the Pakistani Forces in the area.
Not only did both units have troops already sent out into the city on hearing the situations growing stress, they also had their own hard and brutal fight to get to the crash site alone.
6.1. Interestingly a Pakastinian version of “black hawk down” wasn’t taking place to far away from the main one either. Tho without the helicopter.
During the advance to get the Rangers and CSAR around the crash site, 2nd platoon of Company A had become separated and hit in ambush. The Malaysian crewmen alongside the 10th mountain troops ended up in a long drawn out firefight for hours until relived by fire support from a USMC super cobra and a 160th SOAR Black Hawk (same unit that the two other black hawks came from).
6.2. It’s also notable that the UN Pakistanian and Malaysian were already doing hard fighting around the “hot zone” for many months before and after the operation. And even during the operation many of these units were dealing with the spill over of fighting into their areas.
6.3. As for them being unaware the the situation fully. Yes and no. The US heads had not fully informed the UN forces of the situation as to stop a leak of information (the UN forces did have Somali members assisting them in work and operations and the US forces having a bad bias towards the UN forces thinking they’d be loose lipped if given information).
However, their was contact about stuff that was shared as well as the fact that once the operation was underway and ongoing the UN forces did have an idea of what was happening.
7. For the minor things you asked about.
7.1. Why were the Rangers being cocky? Well simply for many it was their first time in combat, others had seen combat but the situation were more overwhelmingly in their favour which breeds a thinking towards that (good example was alot of the Ukrainian volunteers who went over initially left due to this. Alot of those with prior military experience had it from being in Afghanistan and Iraq where they had overwhelming firepower and support. Being on the opposite side of that didn’t bode well for many who ended up leaving quick); and cause they did expect this to be an in and out situation.
7.2. Every branch has their rivalry, it’s more inter branch/service dun to pick on one another and upshot the other guys who’s the better unit.
You can see it during the movie with the safety situation. Special Force operators do keep them on safety but some don’t, and when the Ranger Captain tried to big chest on the Delta, the remark “this is my safety” was the reply to get bent. Both have experience but the Delta lads known when to be disciplined and when to be lax more. The Ranger Captain was more trying to set example for his own lads too, to not go overly acting like advanced operators when clearly not.
7.3. As above “no man left behind” pulling the convoy out wasn’t an option at that point. Remember they still expected to have the element of surprise, speed and firepower to get them through this quick.
Problem was the small delays and splitting of forces caused all 3 to fall out of favour and into the militias hands.
7.4. Throws like that do happen. Remember alot of these guys back in their youth and younger days could have been quite decent sports players and many who end up serving could oh actually went further in their sports careers but choose s military one instead. So a throw like that very likely could of happened.
- if memory serves the guy who did it was known to be a pretty decent baseball player in his senior years.
7.5. You can probably see why he’s going back out reading the above. Members of 10th Mountain alongside UN forces were still engaged at this point and in truth for several days after.
7.6. The crash site 2 situation is very real. Those two delta sniper done a extremely impressive job with that one.
7.7. One bit of interesting exaggeration the movie does is actually in the Somali favour. The man they capture at the start in his car does happen. However, after shooting his cars radiator he didn’t just sit their and get captured, nah he fled to a gas station where he was eventually apprehended.
Its not cocky its hiding the fear to be brave enough to walk into danger.
Those Delta guys hard carried that mission. holy crap.
Gosh while I remembered a few known actors from this the 1 time I tried watching it, I now recognize quite a few others who are better known now. Like- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau from GOTs, Tim Hardy, and etc. Can't remember if y'all have already watched it but, try out- 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, Zero Dark Thirty and 12 Strong. All based on true stories.
My favorite war film. I was amazed when i was a kid and spent alot of time over the years breaking down everything. Watched documentaries, interviews from soldiers and real news footage. The movie is pretty accurate. Some people complain that it's not like the book But I think the movie is just more focused on the event.
you are wrong though, if it really accurate, why zero Malaysian army involved while the truth is we saving your army asses? because of this, we Malaysian producing a new movie based on this real event. the movie will be release this august called MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA
@Bobo Boy for one i did not say it was really accurate i said it was pretty accurate. 2 the general did say they wanted the Pakistanis and malaysians in the film. The malaysians brought the APCs and the Pakistanis brought tanks but ran away after getting into a fight. The movie did not focus much at all on the rescue operation that's why you didn't see much. This movie was about what happened to the u.s. soldiers and what they went through during THEIR mission.
My father actually knew multiple people in this mission being a ranger in the same time and this movie hits hard for him everytime…
Col Steele was my Brigade Commander during my 2nd deployment to Iraq 2005-2006. He was commander of 3rd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division. He was an awesome commander. If we needed anything he made sure we got it.
At 7:37 with the "This is my safety" it went down a bit differently IRL. The m16/m4 can't go on safety when the hammer is forward.
His rifle is empty chamber with the hammer down and a loaded mag and he got tired of trying to explain that to the Captain so he made a sarcastic remark.
What most people don't know is that SEAL Team 6 or DEVGRU was also there to. Some of them were giving sniper cover. One SEAL Team 6 member said he had to bribe a fishermen to hide and get to safety.
There were a couple other helicopters that were damaged but did not go down. They were landed outside the city.
Delta Snipers Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon were both posthumously awarded the Purple Heart. They held off the crowd by themselves for about 3-4 hours and only died due to the crowd size and because they ran out of ammunition.
I'm thinking you meant the Medal of Honor.
Medal of Honor.
this movie is usa propaganda version. usa military ie pentagon, literally funded production of this movie.
They both received the Medal Of Honor, anyone wounded gets a Purple Heart
@@sitting_nut whatever loser no one cares about you or what you think
Black hawk down is a great war movie.
Two interesting things i know about the op. are:
1) The op. pattern used by the US for the movie raid was the same pattern for other raids done before the movie raid. That's why insurgents are so effective and reactive against US troops.
That was a bold move by US, classic underestimating the enemy like in 'nam.
2) There was a large Italian detachment which was not involved in the raid due to American suspicions of the Italians: They thought the Italians were providing information to Aidid's troops. The fact is that was obviously not true and the Italians could have provided armored support to the op.
At this point Delta is acknowledged to be a thing but really wasn't back then. They 're a Tier 1 special forces unit along with DEVGRU (aka SEAL Team 6). They're also considered the best of the best. Another fun fact any branch of the military technically can join that means SEALS.
The Army provided help’s and pilots, a company of Rangers and advisors for the filming.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 has a multiplayer map based on this named Bakaara, complete with a downed Black Hawk at the center of the map with a usable side-mounted minigun.
8:00 Correct. The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (aka. Delta Force, Combat Applications Group (CAG), Army Compartmented Elements (ACE), "Task Force Green" within join operations) is a highly-classified (and paradoxically well-known) Spec Ops unit of the US Army. It is the Army's equivalent the Navy's DEVGRU (aka. SEAL Team Six) and the Air Force's 24th Special Tactics Squadron (they don't have a cool nickname). Pretty much everything about Delta Force is kept absolutely secret, with the unit only being publicly acknowledged whenever they take part in a major operation or someone from it dies. While it consists mostly of Army personnel, members of other branches have been part of it.
30:07 the real DeTomasso was unhappy about that movie scene. He was a Lieutenat, Eversman a Staff Sergeant at that time. In reality, he was the commanding officer at the crahside because Captain Steel was on the way, but only gave orders over radio.
i love it when reactors suggest tactics and advise what to do in the middle of a chaotic battle scene. it might be hard to tell in printed word, but that was sarcasm.
13:05 its not cocky.. its a matter of convenience. Trauma plate was just damn uncomfortable. You still have your vest but that thing was like wearing a car door on your chest. When you do this stuff day and night you start giving in to a little more risk to be comfortable.
Slawomir Idziak's cinematography is breathtaking
And really ahead of its time
My one brother-in-law who is the brother I never had was FIVE YEARS OLD when this happened and lived through this hell. I can’t even imagine 😭
So in the real mission, the American forces had 10 blackhawks total. They crashed or disabled 8 of them in this operation. The 2 that crashed in the city, 1 crash landed at the stadium, 2 at the port area, and the rest at the airfield. Those aircraft got shot up so bad, yet were able to preform and hold together until the aircrews could get into a safe location.
but this movie is very misleading, they one who saved US army is Malaysian army but this movie just said the name without actually showing how we save US army asses
I forget his name but the soldier with the rocket in him actually survived.
The Book is more or less a transcription of events on what actually happened. Lots of extra details and a more accurate telling of what happened and when. The movie is of course a Hollywood "remix". Some things are shuffled around for the sake of simpler story telling and movie run time. Big picture tells the story well enough. Would definitely recommend the book to anyone who would like to learn more about the events that took place.
this movie is what I called propaganda movie. it's portraying US army as incredible strong even they lose early without even showing who saving their asses.
so because of that, Malaysia is now producing a real event of what actually happened. the movie will be released in August this year called MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA. Malaysian army saving US ARMY asses
@@boboboy8189 Lol you are delusional
@boboboy8189 I don't know, bro it may look like the US Army are the only ones saving them but you also have the UN and the 10th Mountain and plus it's already 2 houds worth of movie and shoving more time isn't really that worth it considering its very hard to cover all events of the battle that took an entire day and compact it into two hours
@@skulldozer1462 they can add 10 minutes of Malaysian army came and saving them but they didn't do that or they actually want to hide the truth? our military officer sending an official letters to Hollywood and what they said, it just a movie..... yes right, those american soldier still talking about Malaysian soldier who save them, even one of us died there just to save them. all those veteran still speak about that but were ignored by interviewer in every documentary they did after this movie released
The helicopters were flown by members of the 160th SOAR, which is the unit that was actually in this battle.
Listen to the voice that starts narrating at 57:55 when the credits roll, that's Nikolaj Coster Waldau aka Jaime Lannister. He played one of the snipers that tried to defend the black hawk with the pilot that was captured by the militia.
A crazy thought for me is that I was only 23 days old when these events took place IRL.
RIP Tom Sizemore. A bunch of these dudes are older now and this movie still feels like it came out yesterday.
Can you imagine not intervene as UN in Africa?
Rwanda, Ghana, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Mali, Niger and Nigeria. Many nations fight against themselves many nations are falling apart from inside thanks to clans and warlords. It is since end of colonialism and it been there since ancient times.
Literally Africa (mostly Sub-Saharan part) will never change thanks differences in faith and ethnic groups.
From worldwide perspective it is mostly a waste of recourses or men power when you try to make it change.
Oh dang this is one of the most epic war movies. Like every actor is in this movie too. Tobey, Tom Sizemore, Tom Hardy, Matt Hartnett, Aaron Eckhart maybe, William Fichtner, Obi-wan Kenobi himself Ewan MacGregor, and more.
I just saw this like 1 or 2 weeks ago so this timing is insane! 😂
The average human being would not want to go back in there. Respect to the guys who chose to go back
My grandmother used to baby sit one of the men who was sent in after the initial attack and who lost his life. He was from Iowa and a very kind person.
Reality is often a lot more incredible than fiction, Hacksaw Ridge is a great example of this. Mel Gibson said they actually removed the crazier things that actually happened from the movie because he thought the audience wouldn't be able to believe it.😅
one of the few movies where they get the sound of a gatling gun right
1st SFOD-D is the technical name for the Delta guys, they “didn’t exist” for a long time but you can’t keep everything a secret. Besides even just knowing a name doesn’t really give away their tasks and purpose. But they are selected from other special operations units, so they are the best of the best.
A Malaysian Movie coming out in August 2023 titled "MALBATT: Misi Bakara" is a movie about the same event from the perspective of the UN Peacekeepers from Malaysia assisting with the rescue mission.
The car that was attached to something like a rocket is actually a super bazooka built and used by the U.S. Army in the 1950s.
I remember when this came out it made waves & it was SO visceral, phenomenal film!
black helmets are delta force, literally the most secretive and most trained forces in the US military... rangers are also elite but not quite that caliber. the black birds and black hawks are from SOAR which are basically the delta force of aviation... they are the best trained pilots
This is one of those movies i can only watch once
On a side note in the early 2000s the Blackhawk Down pc game was awesome! The multi player was a blast
That’s disgusting!!! 🤮🤬
8:04 “Delta Force” isn’t really a thing. Sorta. That’s been one of the different public names for Army Special Forces Operational Detachment. Although for the time period for Black Hawk Down, they would have been called “CAG” instead, for “Combat Applications Group.” The name Delta came later, and now it’s something else again.
But they’re direct action element Army special forces.
Guys just listen to the soundtracks available in you tube for this movie..one of the best Hans Zimmer tracks
8:00 Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, it was "neither confirm nor deny" territory, but it was formed as a response to the string of terrorist attacks in the 1970s in 1977. Their primary mission is counter-terrorism, but they also do hostage rescue, direct action (aka assassination), covert infiltration, and special recon. The official title is 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta (SFOD-D), but they are also known as Delta Force, The Unit, Combat Applications Group, or by their Spec-Ops title, Task Force Green.
They have special permission to wear civilian clothes, grow their hair out long, grow beards, and the like so that they can blend in with a group or population while gathering covert intelligence. They are one of the three Tier 1 spec ops groups, with the other two being the 24th Special Tactics Squadron of the Air Force, and the Navy's DEVGRU (aka Seal Team 6). Once the internet became prolific, Delta was officially acknowledged as existing and its Tier 1 rating was revealed. The Delta Force operators in Mogadishu were from C Assault Squadron. They have 6 squadrons, A through G, with A-D being assault, E being aviation (that has some serious black ops history with the CIA, look up "Seaspray"), and G is the Advanced Force Operations squadron tasked with clandestine operations and covert intelligence, including long-term infiltration of terrorist groups
The crazy thing was the mission was considered a "success" cuz they got the guys they wanted. Indeed, war is hell. I read the book and the story is pretty close to that. Grimes was a composite of a few characters from the book, which makes sense when making a 2-hour movie. I don't think the strobes they used to spot the enemy were in the book but the overall gist of the story was right on. Jerrry Bruckenheimer produced and he has talked about how he tried to remain true to the story and honor the 18 dead. Well done movie about the real hell of actual war.
this movie is still not accurate though. this is why my country is producing a real event of black hawk dawn. our country saving US army asses but it never shown in this movie. this new movie will be release this august and the title is MALLBATT : MISI BAKARA. it's Malaysian army point of view of what actually happened. the survivor of this event still alive today and director is taking notes from them
@@boboboy8189 Would love to see it if it's released in the US.
no way did anyone in history throw a grenade that far that accurate
Damn. Good pull on Lucius, i've seen this movie so many times and never connected it
Guys, if youre on a war movie binge, then please, PLEASE, watch Tears of the Sun if you havent already. It is such a CRIMINALLY underrated movie, and honestly one of Bruce Willis' best movies IMO.
Mogadishu shook the Pentagon to the core. It realized the future is fighting poor people in urban centers and has completely changed its doctrine since the early 1990s. And it includes American cities in those plans.
If you’re doing war movies you should check out midway, it’s about the US vs Japan during WWII
There was true heroism on that day however the film fails to show that in the build up to the mission, dozens of innocent locals had been killed during a prior US raid in search of Aidid. That raid was even condemned by the UN for its lack of accountability towards casualties and the politics that followed. So when these teams went in, anger was in the air and waiting for them which is why ordinary people took up arms. One must know, otherwise there's a risk of dehumanising the Somalis who are shown in the film.
A lot of the soldiers were actually Rangers that served there.
Quick answer: “No” you cannot fly a chopper without a tail rotor! The tail rotor provides counter rotation to allow for stability. Without it, the chopper will rotate in the opposite direction of the main rotor and your foot pedals (which control yaw) become useless. I’ve flown a Robinson R-44 helicopter several times. If a chopper looses a tail rotor, it’s going to crash most likely in a flat spin (as depicted here). *Retired Air Force aircraft maintenance technician.
The Black Hawk Down book should be required reading and should serve as a master class on why the U.S. shouldn't go abroad in search of dragons to slay. Government intervention, whether it be foreign or domestic, is a utopian progressive worldview that only leads to worse outcomes for both America and the countries we choose to "help".
It’s a very complex issue, which I think should be analyzed on a case by case basis, but yeah. Most of these war movies that we watch should be required viewing.
Besides the original "Black Hawk Down" book by Mark Bowden, I recommend "In the Company of Heroes" by Michael Durant, the pilot of Super 64. It goes into his time in captivity as well as some of his events and actions leading up to Mogadishu, such as Desert Storm and his time in Korea. There's also some insight that may seem contrary to what the book and film portray, such as Durant getting smacked in the face with a severed arm instead of a rifle.
I've always wondered if a Ranger officer would actually refer to Delta operators as "undisciplined cowboys," given that he would know they're the most elite troops in the entire military and would have demonstrated a level of discipline that was off-the-charts.
not sure if you are super into video games or not but for those who are & find it cool like me, The voice actor for Sergeant Sanderson (if you don't remember him somehow he is the sergeant speaking here 35:55) also voices "Sandman" in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3. (i know the name similarities make it funnier) from someone who grew up on the modern warfare series as a kid i immediately noticed the actor portraying Sanderson voiced sandman because they sound the exact same and even some things he has said in the movie I'm pretty sure he has said in the game. but yeah i just found it super fascinating lol.
they're also both rangers that have worked with delta force, could be a stretch but i believe sandman easily could've been inspiration from sergeant Sanderson. there are just so many similarities here😂