REACTING to *The Patriot (2000)* SO INSPIRATIONAL!! (First Time Watching) War Movies
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James and Nobu are reacting to The Patriot (2000) and this film is so inspirational!! Enjoy thia first time watching war movies reaction to The Patriot
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What other movies have you seen Heath Ledger in??
"10 things I hate about you"
"Lords of Dogtown"
"Brothers Grim"
"A Knights Tale"
The Dark Knight! The best movie he is in and what he is the most known for by far.
@@amandafox8603 Yep I saw all of those. People forget when Heath was alive everyone loved watching him in a movie. Those are all good movie BTW.
The Dark Knight, 10 things I hate About You (which you guys need to react to and release on the channel).
10 Things I Hate About You and A Knight’s Tale are my favorites.
Jason Isaacs who plays Tavington says this is one of his favorite roles that he's ever done.
Every 4th of July he posts a cheeky picture of himself as Tavington with fun captions like "Happy Birthday Traitors" and "I tried to help...you are on your own" 😂
You mentioned some of the soldiers not looking when firing. With the flintlock muskets, the flint that lights the black powder sits right next to your eyes when firing. Some would line up the shot and look away right before firing to avoid any injuries to their eyes (which did happen). This was solved with the percussion cap that replaced the flint, which you saw in "Glory" and was in wide use by the mid-1800s.
I said the same thing to myself when he was like why u looking away 😂
@@joshwoodard1692 yup
And this is why I love reading comments. I learn cool things like this.
they were Thomas's toy soldier's. that you saw him painting at the beginning. His father took the bag of them and was melting them into musket balls to use in Thomas's honor
The “papa, don’t go” scene gets me every time. 😭
Me too!!! 😢
Same
Yep you're right..me too
EVERY TIME!!
One of the best piece of music by john williams.
That the young sons were accurate marksmen would not be a surprise. They would have been accomplished hunters of game by that age.
Yep, and most of what they hunted would be small animals. Like rabbits, squirrels and birds. Much more difficult to shoot than larger game.
@@Fmanzo10 A man and two kids wouldn't wipe out a british army division
lmfao no, guns were not that accurate back then .
@@davehoward22It was just a small detail, not a division. And one of the Achilles heels of the European way-of-fighting was that the troops weren’t encouraged to take initiative; if the officers were taken out, the troops were basically adrift. So they targeted officers with the opening shots.
13:47 they took a little liberty with Tavington. But he’s based on the real life officer Bannistar Tarleton. Who the Americans nicknamed “Bloody Bann.” He had a reputation for being especially ruthless and brutal in combat. A very efficient officer.
He was also nicknamed The Butcher but not because he was specifically ruthless but that he let his other Dragoons kill and execute surrendering Colonials which is just as bad as doing it himself if not even worse.
@@Phelddagrif1998 He also burned houses as well didn't he?
Yes.
I also believe Mel Gibson's character is inspired by "The Swamp Fox" Francis Marion although in actuality he died childless.
@@gk5891 He is indeed.
There's a term called "Tarleton's Quarter" which means "a brutal death at the hands of a cowardly foe". Basically, he made his family name synonymous with brutality and cowardice equally. What a legacy.
The flutes were indeed real. The melody they play at the battle by the mansion is the "British grenadiers" which has been a traditional military song in the British army for centuries. The happy melodies were meant to strengthen morale and take the edge off of brutal combat.
Whenever I think of battle melody’s I for some reason think of the Barney theme song over cannons plowing through infantry 🤷🏼♂️😅
The banners and flags as well the musicians (typically drummers and brass instruments like bugles) were important parts of the battle because the actions of the flags and banners also sent messages to the rest of the troops - orders from the commanding officers. Iit wasn't ONLY for moral support ... but also served as a way of communicating orders during a battle. The direction a flag was being carried indicated if the line was retreating or advancing ... as did specific drum-beats and musical pieces being sounded by the bugle-player
I remember it being used in the opening scene of Barry Lyndon.
@@kelduarjudgester9083 Not flutes. Fifes, as in Fife and Drum Corps.
I saw The Patriot in the theatre. Mel Gibson has Starred & directed in some of the best war movies, "Gallipoli", "Braveheart", "We Were Soldiers", "Hacksaw Ridge". These movies are all based on true stories. I became a Mel Gibson fan from day one back in 1980-81 when I saw Mad Max & Gallipoli. If you ever want to see a pure Aussie film Gallipoli. Gallipoli was the worst battle to happen to Australia, and one of the most love films by Australians.
Mad Max Road Warrior is one of the best 80’s movies in the whole decade I would say top 5
Ooo a Gallipoli reference!
To be fair, Apocalypto and Braveheart are terribly inaccurate to the point where it's a borderline insult
Battle Of Gallipoli was about an Australian Army unit recruited mainly in the Perth Western Australia area.
When the movie came out, I was deployed on the USS John F Kennedy, and we were making a Port Call to the area, and I saw the movie in one of the local theaters.
I think Rob Roy with Liam Neeson is a better movie than Braveheart. I still like Braveheart too, though.
The young actors playing the children were so good and went on to act in a lot of other movies. Most don't recognize the youngest brother as Logan Lehrman, for instance.
Unfortunately the young girl died I think when she was only 20 or so.
This movie was a piece of my childhood, despite it being pretty dark & gruesome. But I watched this a lot despite that, especially on the 4th of July
There is a good series on UA-cam that is eight parts about the Revolutionary War from the history channel. I watch it every forth as well and it's a good history doc. One of there best ones. I recommend it if you haven't seen it.
The final battle scene is based on the actual Battle of Cowpens in South Carolina. Cornwallis did have distain for militia, so the Americans used that against him. The militia set up in front of the regular army. And when the militia retreated, the British followed them right into a trap.
It's based on a combination of the Battle of Cowpens as well as the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. Cornwallis wasn't present at Cowpens. Tarleton was present at both battles, but he was the one in command at Cowpens, as this was during the time he was detached from Cornwallis in his pursuit of Morgan across the countryside. Both battles included a draw maneuver to pull the British into a trap. The element portrayed of "hating the militia" is a composite as well, with the "rash charge" being from Cowpens, where Tarleton attacked Morgan's forces without waiting with his exhausted troops, and was drawn into three lines of resistance that crippled almost his entire army, and the part of the militia implementing an intentional retreat into lines of regulars was from Guilford, against Cornwallis, at the command of Greene, where Cornwallis' units were drawn into enfilade fire and suffered heavy casualties and halted charges.
It's worth noting, that Cornwallis actually won the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, but it was a pyrrhic victory, as he destroyed his army doing so.
In the reaction to Glory, you were talking about lines of infantrymen standing or kneeling straight across from each other and blazing away. That was a standard tactic, going all the way back to spear or bow and arrow days.
The distances the armies are standing from each other in the open field battles in this film are appropriate for the weapons they had.
Ninety years later, in the 1860s, smoothbore muskets had been replaced by rifled muskets machined to tighter tolerances. But despite the greater accuracy, armies tended to still form at those short distances. So that was a slaughter.
Engagement distances are always way off in any type of media. Typical engagement distance for smoothbore muskets was 100 yards, or the length of a football field, up to 200 yards. The average engagement distance for rifles was 200 yards during the battle of Gettysburg, 300 yards during World War 2, with 10% of engagements at 700 yards or more. In movies it looks like the combatants are about 40 yards from each other regardless of the time period. I think this is done so that when you cut to the master you can get both sides in the same shot for dramatic effect. A little more difficult to do when the enemy is a dot in the distance. They may have a sniper fire from 100 yards away (see Saving Private Ryan) but regular grunts usually gun each other down at 25 yards point blank range or less. Same goes for helicopters etc. I've found that it's safe to say when someone in a war movie is shooting something, multiply the engagement distance by 10 and you get and accurate idea of the real life situation. Movie shotgun 5 yards = real life shotgun 50 yards. Movie musket 20 yards = real life musket 200 yards. Movie sniper 100 yards = real life sniper 1000 yards.
The rocking chairs used were made by a master builder in Tennessee. The problem on set was he built them so well they wouldn't break. The prop crew had to cut them almost apart before they could get the shot.
Mel Gibsons acting, especially when Gabriel dies is always amazing to me. The Last of the Mohicans" and "The Alamo" are Also good.
You are right that the film is fiction but some of the characters are composites of real life people. Gibson's character is a representation of The Swamp Fox. The calvary officer is supposed to be Colonel Tarrington a brutal British officer. The historical events in South Carolina are pretty accurate as are the battles.
Leslie Nielsen (yes, the guy from Airplane) played Frances Marion in a Disney series called The Swamp Fox back in the day. I don't know if it's possible to find it anywhere.
@@QueenoftheBlackCoast Some of it is on UA-cam. It's not the greatest quality, but it's there. ua-cam.com/video/-SBPnw5riLM/v-deo.html
Most gunshot wounds at the time, including during the American Civil War, were not actually fatal. Usually it was gangrene or the wrong treatment methods, because amputations were often carried out or the surgical instruments were not disinfected. As I said with Glory, a musket isn't exactly accurate. Many just played dead even though they weren't hit. the wars at that time were fought in a very gentlemanly manner with music etc. a gigantic chess game in principle.
Infection was usually down to dirty clothing being pushed deep into the wound with the musketball.
When I saw this 20 years ago, I was completely Gabriels side. Now As I am older and what I have seen... I am Benjamin's side when they argue about Gabriels joining in army. This film has really well written characters, who act and speak of their age. And the range of emotions you see in Gibsons eyes during this performance is sheer astonishing. He and Denzel are actors who can play range of emotions without a word and let their eyes do the communicating.
Back then when you fired a musket you had to look the other way to avoid going blind from powder burns. Just in front of the rear sight was the musket pan where the powder charge was located and when struck by the gunflint it would send sparks back into your face and eyes if you did not look away.
“My sons were better men” it was at this moment he knew he fucked up
Guys, I hate to be critical, but when he says “Gates spent too much time in the British Army”, almost all of the officers in the colonial army were British officers at one time. George Washington was a Colonel in the British army.
yeah this movie has a lot of historical inaccuracies, like a lot and should be seen as just a movie. It's unfortunate that people don't know that most of the time going into it.
The depictions of the major line combat battles are fairly accurate to how battles were fought at this time.
I would highly recommend watching the movie version of 1776. It’s a musical about the Congress debating their positions on the revolution and Independence. It’s not historically accurate entirely, but it’s a lot of fun, and intense when it needs to be.
They are showing on the 4th of July on TCM! It's a Tradition on Turner Classic Movies, and I never Miss it! The Founding Fathers and Mothers Singing and Dancing their way to Independence is one of my Guiltiest Pleasures! And Yes Intense "Molasses to Rum to Slaves" is one of the most riveting scenes ever put on film!
this is a great movie with Mel Gibson and Jason Isaacs putting in iconic performances, love the music theme of this movie too :) hope you guys check out Kingdom of Heaven at some point as well its an epic movie that not many reactors have done :)
This movie is so sad and so good!
I'm not sure if anyone has recommended this one yet, but The Last of the Mohicans is a great movie that takes place during the French and Indian War. And the soundtrack is absolutely incredible. Definitely worth a watch.
I think one of the "sins" Martin refers to in the opening lines is the sin of Wrath. There are several moments that allude to things he did that he regretted during war, and the scene where he mounts that one Redcoat who tried to run away and he just eviscerates the poor guy in a rage shows how deeply he can fall into that Wrath.
I love Jason Isaacs because he can ply such amazing villains. He fully comics to the character he plays and he once said in an interview he plays them from the point of view that they don't see themselves as a villain. If you think about it we are all the heros in our own story so someone as we see as a villain will not see themselves that way. It really pays off in those kind of roles.
37:19 they are looking away because firing a musket could potentially blind you. Nowadays, weapons such as rifles have the powder in the cartridge, and the weapon itself has a system to propely dispose of the detonation so the weapon can work properly. Muskets back then, but, were basically small cannons: you loaded them with powder, a bullet, and you ignited it to create a tiny explosion that would propel the projectile. The problem? Such an explosion close to your eyes (as the face was located dangerously close to the firing pin) could burn your face, even cost you an eye. That's why most soldiers would close their eyes when firing or, as we can see, turning their face alltogether
this is very accurate and extremely well explained good on you sir.
Conscripts would but trained volunteer soldiers wouldn't.
The first scene where he throws the chair after it breaks tells us as soon as the movie starts that this man has a temper, and even his children are involved in helping him control it.
The big battle at the end, the Battle of Cowpens, happened as shown in the film where the Americans purposefully put militia in the center of their line, knowing the British had no respect for them. When the militia pretended to retreat the British believed the ruse as they had seen it before and were drawn into an ambush and defeated. The murder of the wounded prisoners was probably inspired by the Battle of Waxhaws, where Banastre Tarleton's dragoons murdered surrendering American troops and killed the wounded on the ground, apparently erroneously believing their commander had been killed when his horse was shot out from under him.
Mel is melting down his dead son's figures and making them bullets. It's a symbol of his payback for his son's death.
I had to study this movie in school. I cried my eyes out at the church scene. Looking forward to your reactions!
I believe that never happened in the Revolution. But there is a report of the Nazis doing it in WW II in Czechosloviaka!
@@jamesalexander5623You are right. That never happened and it was in fact inspired by something the Nazis did in WW2. It was added in to make the British look more evil. It might be the most controversial scene in the whole film.
@@jamesalexander5623 yes, the scene rather closely copies a scene from the Belarusian WWII Film 'Come and See'.
'Turn: Washingtons spies' is an excellent series, if you guys like this setting.
Actually in those days, one shot musket kills were usually only about 20%, although because of the larger size of the musket balls, (.69 caliber or 690 thousandths of an inch) compared to todays smaller bullets of approximately .308 of an inch on average, those musket balls were MUCH slower velocity ( about 895 FPS) and did far less tissue damage than today's very high velocity bullets, but if fired at less than 75 yards, a head or heart shot would most certainly be instantly lethal, most war wounds were in the arms and legs resulting in lots of amputations on both sides of the conflict, but with the velocities of todays bullets (2900 FPS or more,) brings something that the subsonic balls of the muskets did not have, a supersonic shockwave which surrounds the bullet and is incredibly destructive to human tissue, musket pistols of that era were incredibly underpowered and outside about 5 to 7 yards were rarely fatal with a single shot. but would still ruin your day. most deaths during the revolutionary war were a result of sabre's swords, knives and bayonets', especially with the design of the bayonets' of the day, which were long tapered triangular shaped spikes more or less, getting stuck with a bayonet was nearly 100% lethal, stopping the blood loss from one of those nasty things was all but impossible.
Great reaction, this movie's one of my faves!
Regarding looking away while firing, flintlock muskets by design put an explosion of gunpowder right next to the shooter's face, with debris that could enter the eyes under some circumstances. As well, these firearms as of the revolutionary times tended to be unreliable, and turning the head away while discharging the weapon could avert/reduce further injury in the case of malfunction. It wasn't a tactic in any way, but more a realistic reaction to firing these muskets for these guys.
This is one of my favorite movies. To answer your question about the marching music. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe that the music was used to communicate orders while marching.
The Music played by the French in the film "Waterloo" is note perfect. .....The actual sheet music still exists!
Indeed, Cornwallis’ orders to “band a charge” and “sound the retreat” both refer to communicating the orders to the rank and file with music. But the flags were also important means of communication too.
53:30 This was the point where my heart shatters and I become a sobbing wreck _every single time._ 🥺😭
One thing I learned when studying colonial and early Republic history (along with how to spot all the inaccuracies in films like this) was that the war was much more brutal than popular depictions like to remember. Some historians recommend calling the Revolution the first Civil War instead. Neighbors who suspected each other of supporting whatever position they were against would murder each other then be killed themselves for revenge. British officers didn’t consider American officers to fall under the accepted code of conduct in Europe so prisoners were tortured and murdered without trial or care. There are only a few times when studying history has made vomit; most of those occasions I was studying the Holocaust or other WW2 events. A lot of this times involved slavery in US. The other times were the Revolution. On the other hand radical ideas of honor and independence were being proposed and implemented. It really is fascinating
Oh Jeez... getting popcorn, tissues and a strong drink ready (it's evening already where I am so don't you judge me 😜)
I have watched this movie plenty of times but still have not managed to do so without torrent of tears 💔
Amazing movie though. Thank you for reacting to it 😊
Where are you from? It's evening for me too. And it's cold!
I would get popcorn in the morning idc
@@tinahastie Ireland and it's quite cosy here 😉
@@whitenoisereacts 😂
After Cornwall's surrender at Yorktown the British troops stacked their arms. It is said that the British band played while they were doing it.
The song?
"The World Turned Upside Down"
Other people have mentioned it, but for a little more detail: there are a number of steps involved in firing a musket. Actually, they're pretty similar overall to the steps in firing a modern gun, but the arrangement is different.
The barrel is basically a tube open at the front and closed at the back. Inside the barrel there's a bullet, with a charge of powder behind it to propel it forward and out. There's a small flash hole at the back, leading to a pan that has a small charge of priming powder in it. Above the pan is a frizzen, which is just a piece of metal for the flint to hit and make sparks.
So when you fire it, the flint hits the frizzen and makes a little shower of sparks. The sparks fall into the priming powder in the pan, which is effectively just a little metal cup on the side of the gun right in front of your eye, and light it off. Some of the flame from that powder goes through the flash hole to light the main charge to propel the bullet, but the rest just sprays up around, like you'd expect to happen if you fill a thimble with explosive powder and drop sparks on it. Ideally, you'd prefer that to _not_ fly into your eye, or even the rest of your face. So, yeah, you might turn away :)
This is such an awesome reaction you guys and since the Director of this film, Roland Emmerich also did _Independence Day_ hopefully you, Nobu, Hailey and Stella will react to the film next month.
25:06 they’re better trained in that specific style of combat. The British probably had one of the best armies, and easily the best navy in the world at the time. Only the French, Prussian, and maybe Spain and Russia could compete on an army level. But the Americans couldn’t come close. We only ever had 48,000 men on active duty at a time, and never more than 13,000 in one place. And while the British had only about 55,000 they had much larger reserves to draw from than we did.
But where the British didn’t excel was in this new “American style” warfare. These guerrilla tactics, frontiersman soldiers, the British couldn’t compete. They had some units that knew how, like the Queens Rangers, but most of the British army was accustomed to “gentlemen’s combat.” With the firing lines and the troop movement.
The American militias inflicted huge damage to the British war machine using these tactics, but failed miserably when it came to actual open combat. We didn’t even actually win that many battles against the British. I mean, we won a lot, but in the big picture it wasn’t a ton. We just made it too costly for them to keep fighting. Combine that with a few very strategic victories, and that’s how you topple an Empire.
Yeah one if the big factors that led to the US victory was that the British were also fighting a full, on war against Napoleon in Europe, and it was much to costly to fight a war in Europe and fight the separatists in America.
The fight against Napoleon was also seen as much more strategically important as he was conquering swathes of Europe.
The American colonies were very far away and while they may have been financially important they were much less strategically important to the British at the time.
This whole "they believed it was a gentlemen's way of fighting" myth really needs to die.
@@Reaper08 it’s true though. Maybe not by that term, but this was how the British fought. Because this is just how you’re *supposed* to fight. This is what you do. And the Americans weren’t playing by those rules.
Music was played in battles in order to boost the soldiers morale and even used send to send commands across the battlefield and within camps
Also, I think it would be helpful to do a little research about the Revolutionary War. There were many British sympathizers in the colonies, even more so in Southern colonies like S.C. Not every colonialist was a revolutionist, and many families still considered themselves British (having only recently left their homeland for America). It wasn't until the Boston Massacre that public opinion really started to turn. And Britain DID initially believe they would win the war fairly easily and would reintegrate the colonies back under their rule, so keeping fairly good relations with colonists was important.
Even Jefferson admitted that the rebellion was far from universally popular at the beginning: about a third were in favor, about a third wanted to stay with Britain and the rest didn't care either way. It was very much a civil war in all but name, with the British and Loyalist forces having the upper hand until French intervention in 1778.
The Character of Mel Gibson, (Ben Martin), is actually based off a real person in the war, Francis Marion. (sp). While Mel's character was called the "Ghost", Francis Marion was called the 'Fox". He did guerilla raids on the British as well. Now I am totally sure 'liberties' were taken with story and other things.
I see @BlyatBlaster mentioned about Tavington.
The character Col. Tavington, is patterened after the real Dragoon commander in the area at that time, Lt. Col. Balestre Tarleton. Tarelton WAS saddled with the sobriquet, The Butcher, earned or not. The veracity of the epithet varies with the writer. He was soundly defeated at the Battle of Cowpens.
The final battle in this film is loosley based on the Battle of Cowpens, not in scene but in tactics. A viewing of one of the many UA-cam videos on the Battle of Cowpen, you would find interesting, and, if an American, satisfying.
Another movie, just like Glory that I watched in 8th-9th grade history class when we studied the American Revolutionary War. Our teacher also used this movie to show tactics of guerrilla warfare during this time instead of just standing in lines when you didn't have the numbers.
That type of activity, often called “skirmishing,” had been in use since time immemorial. In Ancient Greece they actually had separate groups of troops called skirmishers, who would harass opposing armies as they attempted to forage, as well as on the battlefield before battle, attempting to interfere with preparations.
Mel gibsons character is based on a real person called the swamp fox from the American Revolution
Francis Marion of South Carolina
@@grandmoffwilhufftarkin4109 thats it thanks
The guns that did not have bayonets were civilian hunting rifles the British called them widow makers because they were rifles they had much longer range than the smooth bore muskets the military used but once the British closed they were at a real disadvantage
Benjamin Martin is based on Francis Marion. Interestingly, the Army Rangers consider him the first Ranger and still study his tactics in combat school
I am going to rewatch this movie before watching your video. It's been a while and it's always better to have as much of the film in your mind when watching these reactions...
This is such an amazing movie. I was so excited to see this pop up
Sadly, the actress who played Susan died very young 😢
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Aw whaaat 😔
alot of people would say he is best known for The dark knights joker but his best movie that shows his talents is a Knights Tale
Attending many Star Trek and Sci-Fi conventions, I was lucky to meet Rene' Auberjonois who played Reverend Oliver ( Starred in Star Trek Deep Space Nine ) and Peter Woodward who played Gen. Charles O'Hara, Cornwallis's Second in Command! ( Starred in Babylon 5 ).
I was kinda waiting for James to mention or point out to Nobu that Col. Tavington /Jason Isaacs is Lucius Malfoy because I've seen him do that a couple of times 😁
It's interesting to note that the Militia later became the National Guard. It started out in the Revolutionary war with regular people not being in the military but defending there homes.
The militia was a form of military, meeting regularly to train and elect leaders. Plus in most of the slaveholding states, militia was actually the primary means of preventing slave revolts.
And when he loses it when Gabriel dies… it’s the end of my strength. I bawl. 😭😭😭😭😭
Never say Mel isn't a Brilliant Actor!
@@jamesalexander5623 facts.
So many comments from people who can't separate a Hollywood movie from a documentary.
What's true about this bit is that the flags were very much used as a rally point, and it was a big thing for a long time to lose the flag of your regiment.
A great deal of the Congressional Medals of Honor during the Civil War were awarded for taking a Confederate regiment's colors, as that usually meant the regiment was practically wiped out. A similar movie reference would be "Glory", where Colonel Shaw asks who would carry the colors if the bearer should fall.
What is also a great detail is the commander that was ordered to shoot the rebel wounded looked at the kid and you could see a shame in his face.
The music freaks you out. Especially when they have bagpipes. That just gives the enemy the shivers.
This movie will be one of my all time favorites Mel Gibson and Jason Issac rivalry was amazing 10/10 movie
Mel Gibson was noted for never being that concerned with historical accuracy in his movies. This one, "Apocalypto" and especially "Braveheart" altered the facts for the plot. Some historians have stated the one movie that is closest to being historically correct is "Passion Of The Christ".
He did not direct this movie. As far as Apocalypto, most real historians agree that it was worse in reality than was shown
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The fluting and drumming was a way to communicate to soldiers over distance. It wasn't entertainment but to coordinate movement. Battles were fought traditionally through marksmanship and how fast one could reload. Guerilla tactics were new.
Not really new, but maybe unfamiliar to the British. “Skirmishing” had been in use since ancient times, plus lot of modern tactics were actually drawn from native Americans. Sometimes colonists would even refer to it with names such as ”Indian play.”
47:01 I totally agree! The Brrrrrrrrrrooohooo!! 😂
fun fact the censored version covered him in mud at the begining when going nuts on the guy he beat intot he ground, to make it more pg for tv, the og movie covered him in blood and changes the scene... regulations were weird still are.
and the FPS canon shot was epic haha
Mel Gibson's character is very loosely based on a man very well known here in South Carolina. His name was Francis Marion. The "Swamp Fox". His guerrilla tactics tied up and harassed the British Army for a couple of years here in SC. The Colonel Tavington in the movie is loosely based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, a Dragoon, under the command of Lord Cornwallis. Tarlton is well know as being very ruthless and cold blooded. The final battle scene in the movie is based on an actual battle. The Battle of Cowpens, near the small town of Chesnee, South Carolina, which was a victory for the Americans, and the turning point in the Revolutionary War. Francis Marion was not at this battle, but Tarlton was. Also, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel of the 2nd World War, studied the tactics of Francis Marion the "Swamp Fox" and applied some of them in WW II and hence was to be known as the "Desert Fox". Playing off of Marion's "Swamp Fox" name.
Those people in the village on the coast were not released by the British, in fact the Brits did not know about it. It was near Beaufort, South Carolina. Or Maybe Yakie Island near Georgetown, South Carolina. These people call themselves Gulas today.
I bawl my eyes out through this whole damn movie..... every single time.... It is definitely a favorite of mine!
Watched part of this last night then the rest just now. Speaking as someone from one of the very first original 13 Colonies, ie: Georgia there's lots of History around here. And being that this took place in coastal SC, which Savannah is near. The place where the kids and their Aunt was taken after the burning of her home was farther South of Charleston to one of the Gullah villages. They have just over at Hilton Head and areas nearby a- Gullah Festival every year. (Not that I've gone.) I'm sure they must have others at times in towns around Charleston SC. Another FYI is the actress who plays Aunt Charlotte, is Joely Richardson. Her late sister was- Natasha Richardson, wife of Liam Neeson. They are also the daughters of iconic actress- Vanessa Redgrave of the well known acting Redgrave family. Their Aunt was- Lynn Redgrave. Vanessa R. played- Max in the first Mission:Impossible film. 😊 Her husband is well known actor- Franco Nero. Anyways, this is a great movie even though some parts are tough to watch. MG did a great job overall.
The battle they showed with Horatio Gates getting absolutely slaughtered is somewhat of a distortion of the truth: Gates actually had a much larger army, his force was simply made up of several forces that had not fought together, and were much less disciplined. Cornwallis charged them before they had a chance to fully form up, and chaos began in the ranks. Gates ran away so fast, he covered a week’s travel in only three days. Terrible commander, but he made a spectacular chicken.
My birthiversary is on July 4th so thank u for doing this react, it's a great film.
@55:22 there is a scene which they cut from the movie. Remember the guy who spits tobacco? He says, “Im through” and leaves. A scene shows that he gets caught by the dragoons, they tortured him and he tells them the village that gives aid to Benjamin Martin.
so sus! lmao best reaction video to the patriot that i've seen. Love your channel. I don't know if its possible, but I wish you guys would grab all the best parts to the movie and lines when you edit it out so we can see the reactions to each part. Obviously while making sure you aren't copyrighted.
Yes, the flute music going into war was a thing, I have an entire album of it - so fascinating.
This is one of the first films I’ve seen where there was a villain who I hated so much. Jason Isaacs is a legendary villain actor.
I’ve shot a few of those smooth bore and rifled muskets like they had back then. Looking away was common cause there’s a flash and smoking shooting up right next to your face.
Aye I want Benjamin Martin as my father and Gabriel, Nathan and Samuel as my brothers!! They got it cracking in this movie! I can’t imagine the trauma of him and his family though. He did what he had to do to try and protect his kids and their aunt, especially after his wife died, even though he initially didn’t want to, but did so when the British came and started some static at his house in front of his kids and killed one without a thought.
Making bullets: That's how it is done on the frontier. The method for making them in large numbers involved dropping the molten lead in precise amounts from a tower, into water. The falling lead takes the shape of a perfect sphere as it falls. By the time it hits the water it has cooled enough to hold it's shape on impact, and further cools in the water. Mass production.
This is a good one! I requested notification but i"m going out to the ranch for 1; as soon as i get back in and settled.. I"ll enjoy this one with ya both. xo ^_^
This was probably my family's favorite war movie. My dad bought the DVD as soon as it was released we'd watch it as a whole family at least once a month for probably 5 years. I can honestly quote practically the whole movie word for word. And little me was crushing big time on Gregory Smith who played Thomas. I've had an irrational anger at Jason Isaacs for killing him off for years. lmao
Those "Baby Cannons" were actually an early version of mortars. They fire in the air and come down with explosive rounds.
57:20 when you said please guys we got to look when we shoot... Those were Flintlock rifles whenever they pulled the trigger it would make a big ol spark and sometimes it would get in their eyes so that's why a lot of times they had to fame and then look away and then fire
This is one of the best movies that I have ever seen in all my 18 years on this earth.
The Militia was a tradition at this time. It was Militia that fought the first battles of the war at Lexington and Concord
heath ledger was such an amazing actor. also the younger brother with the brown hair, he plays in the movie called small soldiers and disney movie called zenon. the little boy on the right at 17:17 plays in one of the jurassic park movies, the sixth sense, the barney movie with the rainbow egg i watched growing up back in the 90's. guy at 20:47 he plays as dracos dad in harry potter, and he's also hook in the peter pan 2003.
A little Sad Fact in case people didn`t know already..
The little Girl "Susan" played by Skye McCole Bartusiak, Passed away in 2014 at the age of 21 in her apartment behind her parents' home. While her mother, shortly after Bartusiak's death, stated she believed that her daughter's history of epileptic seizures may have had a role in her death, the coroner ruled the death resulted from an accidental drug overdose..
You have to give Australia credit for lending their two iconic actors, Mel Gibson and Heath Ledger for this great patriotic American movie.
Psst, Mel Gibson is American. Maybe you're thinking of Hugh Jackman? Or Russell Crowe?
@@pizzadohpaz Mel Gibson was raised in America but his parents are Australian
@@theawesomeman9821 ahhh I just saw that he was born in NY, so I was confused! Thanks for the explanation
@@pizzadohpaz welcome
so i'm at 1:10 and an interesting piece of info here, this battle is supposed to be a Representation of the Battle of Cowpens and Charles Cornwallis was not actually at this battle, his subordinate named Banastre Tarleton was in charge and lost this battle (the bad guy in this Tavington is supposed to be a representation of Tarleton). The Battle of Cowpens was a huge victory for the Colonies and if I remember it was one of the first times they defeated the British in Open Field
For My Money, Chris Cooper's Performance In This Is Always Underrated!!
The rocking chair bit is a wood difference. English oak is a much harder wood than east American pine, and therefore stands up better as furniture.
Colonel William Tavington, (Jason Isaacs,) is loosely based on the English general Banastre "the butcher" Tarleton. As I recall, he came from a good family but drank and caroused his way through his inheritance quickly then joined the army. I think there's more to it than that, but that's what I remember.
No one hates war more than those who have lived it. Benjamin had experienced it in the extreme. Thus he wanted to avoid it if at all possible for his children and the sake of all who would pay the price.
I don't know about the "flutes" (fifes), but buglers and drummer boys had a specific purpose in the army. While the battle was going on, the musicians and the generals would be standing off to the side. When the general would issue an order, of course the fighting men couldn't hear him. So the order would be relayed to the buglers and drummer boys and they would play certain songs and cadences that were coded messages for the fighting men, conveying the general's orders to them.
I have a rough time watching war movies and media, but if there is one thing I do like it is when they make the enemy sympathetic.
In the end, we are all human, stuck with our horrible orders and threats from those who think they're better than anything else. When I see both sides with their humanity, it feels like not everything is lost.
Like when forces both agree to hold fire when medics rush out to save the wounded, not to mention the Christmas Truce. We need more movies about that.
6lb cannon in most of movie.
In the last battle howitzers show up.
"We have a baby cannons"
Line infantry doctrine was good on the battlefield back then.
If you have more men, better training and better muskets you would win. But if someone have a cannon it will brake this formations.... Worst thing used during 18-19th century was canister or grapeshot shells in closer range.
Different nations used different tactics mostly during 16th-18th century.
Some smaller countries use skirmishers like Prussian's or Habsburg's Jägers or Gebirgsjägers (mountain infantry/mountain huntsmen) which been used like light infantry, recon and saboteur units.
For example while most countries use mass firepower in line infantry formations Sweden use Go-Pa in first half of 18th century during Northern war against Russia, Saxony and Polish-Lithuania commonwealth.
While most musketeers stop on 75-100 meters and open fire Swedish Caroleans march on 50 meters where muskets are more accurate and fire first volley then next two ranks change position and march on 25 meters and open fire. Both volley are extremely effective on that close range because Caroleans don't reload as their enemies and just keep marching. They literally march close to enemy open fire and then attack with swords and bayonets at hand to hand combat into demoralised, shaken unit with huge losses.
And if you are part of unit which face grenadiers on close range you are fucked....