@@iamthesink I think it was also what parts they had on hand. Why not a 780 Ti if 780 was available? And clearly go for a 4790k. Cooler wasn't bad, but could've done a Hyper 212 type (NOT the Intel stock cooler) to save $70 and lose some on performance.
Austin: I'm gonna go with GTX 780, which came out in 2013... Me: Bruh... GTX 980 came out in 2014... Or maybe he doesn't have a GTX 980, and seeing Ken pairing a Ryzen 5 5600X with RTX 3050 made me facepalm.
They didn't explain it but from the way they're taking, Both Ken and Austin couldn't check the prices of the parts they chose and Austin couldn't check the year a part was released. Ken chose the 3050 because it was new and cheap and since he can't check price to performance calculators, he went with his gut to get the cheapest new card he could find, being last year's 3050, still in stock at stores and the lowest end model.
I swear Nvidia is paying people to promote the 3050. It was frowned upon when it launched and they doubled down and made a weaker version with the same name. Why not go all AMD, the 6000 series is way better than a 3050
some people don't realize the cheaper 6600 is like 15% faster by default vs the 3050, so even if you considered DLSS(and DLSS at lower resolutions have more detail loss), it would still be a worse value than the 6600. and that GPU performance tier isn't something you would normally turn on ray tracing for either.
In Austin's defense, old PC parts prices are always ridiculous. Sellers think they have a gold mine just because they are PC components. It's cheaper to buy 2 whole PCs build the one you want out of the parts, then sell the donor PC for about half the money back if you wait a little bit. I got my $1600 PC for ~$450 doing this method(used parts, 2 PCs, sold the one with the parts I didn't want for a little bit to recoup some money for an upgrade). I hate spending $300/components on new items(exaggerated)
I love that Austin, after agressively celebrating his victory, was like "yeah that was some BS u should've won that" which I agree with. It's way easier to approximate which year certain CPUs or GPUs were released cuz they get released every year or 2 but other stuff like RAM, case, PSU and such usually take way longer to stop being relevant.
The ram demerits were a bit unfair. The model of ram might have been released in 2015 but the sticks could in theory be only months old. But overall fun video. ;)
Well, when you think about it from the perspective of absolute age though Austin could've ALMOST had that RAM in his 10-year-old build so it makes sense that when limits were set that components for pro build had to be new, it makes sense to punish for that. Does it differ in performance? No. Was it completely against the agreed upon rules? Yes.
@@Janz_u if they did not have other available ddr4 ram why would it matter, its the same thing. he got off with the gpu for not being exact why complain when its the ram
But they HAVE stipulated that the parts have a certain timeline. Performance wise, it can be considered fairly new, but the point is the timing. I mean, would you say something from nearly 10 years ago is new? No, of course not. If it was just performance, yeah, it wouldn't warrant, but than, if that is the case, the guy doing the pro challenge could just pull the most powerful card they own from like 5 to 10 years ago with nearly the same performance for way less. Which would be unfair.
@@cttommy73 well that entirely depends. For example cars of the same model have yearly updates but they are still the same model. There are AM5 socketed motherboards with DDR 4 support meaning you can still use DDR 4 with the latest CPU´s.
The boxes of the GPUs you mentioned are actually empty, also it's not easy find a 3090 these days because the 30 cars now are so dated with the 50 coming out this or the next year they're using whatever available to them
It is weird how the pro setup went with a nearly 4 year old cpu with a mid-range nvidia card. I only say it's weird based on how over the top the previous pro setups were compared to the relatively safe setup.
That was my exact build for about 8 years. Upgraded a couple years ago to what was initially a 5800X paired with a 3070 which has over the years and a series of trades and sales has been upgraded to a 4080. I was running 1440p and now I'm running an Aorus FV43U.
I was surprised Ken didn't go all-out with brand new, top-of-the-line parts. It was a clear Pro vs. Broke showdown, and I expected something closer to $2,000, not $638. Austin, on the other hand, came very close! I think he should've gotten points for making his build work in an older case. The extra time he invested deserves recognition. Imagine a challenge: Pro vs. Broke vs. Marketplace. Austin, Ken, and Matt each build a PC, but the twist is we don't know who gets which category. Austin might surprise everyone with a high-end build, Ken could go the resourceful Marketplace route, and Matt might land somewhere in between. It would be a fun way to see their different approaches and how they tackle the challenge!
I guess I'm just confused with the performance calculation. Cuz the 3050 was over 4x the cost of the 780, but only got double the performance, yet still won? And the 5600 was 7x the cost of the 3930k with only double the performance again...
When I converted my old Haswell based computer to Unraid, I had decided replace the CPU from an i5-467k to an i7 for vt-d features. Having that old CPU laying around, I had though about building a super cheap system with it. I found out that motherboards for those CPUs are still rather pricey on the used market unless you go with modern no name one.
as someone once said Motherboards are more likely to fail over time compare to a CPU, so old motherboards are very quickly dwindling in supply, which is why the prices on them are stupid high when the chips they go with are a fraction of the price.
So many npcs here bashing Austin for 780 choice and choosing 980 instead dont know anything about release dates First of all. 980 and 980 ti were ANNOUNCED 2014 and came summer of 2015. Second of all Ken made a wrong choice on the cpu. Ryzen 5600 and 5700x series came 2022. He is actually correct. What he is wrong about is that 5600X came in 2020. So basically he isnt wrong just confused. Also that Fan choice Austin had is awful. He could have EASILY chosen stock cooler for intel or some older one. He already got a point deduction anyhow. And that amount of ram is pointless. 16 gb ram Ddr3 easily handles ddr4. So he basically wasted 110$ on literally nothing.
A better way to do this would be to compare a top of the line system from 2014 vs the most value for money build in 2024 to see how far things have come
Austin made the right choice since the R9 Nano came out in Sept 2015. Just for fun, I did a bit of research, turns out Austin's PC could've been either an i7-5775C & GTX 980 4GB, or even an i7-5960X & GTX Titan Z 12GB. While Ken could've won with a midrange system like Ryzen 7600/7500F/7800X3D, and a better GPU but get an open box listing. RAM demerit doesn't make sense
The memory ken used is DDR4. He really shouldn't have been using anything less than DDR5. Honestly though they really should have made the rules clearer. For Ken it either need to be something you can still purchase at Micro Center, or 2 years old, but not both. This caused confusion because the previous gen Ryzen CPUs and previous gen Nvidia GPUs are still being sold brand new at most places that sell components.
An interesting solution to the disparity here would be to require the pro to build the smallest setup possible and the broke to either have no size restriction or build the biggest setup possible.
I'm only a couple min in and already shaking my head. A 3050? What the hell were they thinking
Cuz it's funner he tried to keep cost lower
a 3060 and he would have won
@@starplatinum1222 maybe maybe not?? Thts part of the game
He literally said "it is not particularly high end" please watch the whole vid before commenting bruh
@@yasbas6477 Its the LOW of the low end his build sucks might as well have used a i3 or ryzen 3 instead of the 5600 it makes no sense
At 12:36 bro really said “we have a lot of really good value here” cuts to the 3050
the the.
@@six6tea6 what?
the the.
@@tsuki7845 am I stupid what does “the the.”mean
the the.
20:26 Who writes their "4"s like that?! Is Austin a serial killer?! 😂
I do and I don’t think that I have killed anyone
Everyone who is normal
2:02 I think bro saw a spider 💀😭
lol, yep most probably
Kenbro
he IS goinfg to see a major deduction from his paycheck for business property damage I bet.. ;)
so?
Ell
My heart sank when you paired an RTX 3050 with a Ryzen 5 5600X! Fun video though, really enjoyed seeing the i7-4770K get some love.
it didn't tho, he replaced it.
@@hasanabbadi3252 Yes, but initially mentioned as a good option for the guidelines of the competition. It was/is a great CPU.
Brother picked an rtx 3050 for a pro setup? 😭
You think that's obsolete?
@@renofumi28 Just bad value.
@@Combba6 Especially at THAT price.
Like... you could get better GPUs for way cheaper NEW 😂
Did u not understand the point. It's what they had and he tried to keep cost lower for points
@@renofumi28 your grammar's OBSOLETE
everyone's like "a 3050 with a 5600x for value???" but im over like: "austin. you had the chance to use the MUCH better performing gtx 980"
i guess it depends on how strict they were with the 10 years rule because the 980 released in like september 2014 so technically it isn't 10 yet
@@iamthesink I think it was also what parts they had on hand. Why not a 780 Ti if 780 was available? And clearly go for a 4790k. Cooler wasn't bad, but could've done a Hyper 212 type (NOT the Intel stock cooler) to save $70 and lose some on performance.
their other rule was strictly on parts available at their office@@paulmeyer1001
Austin: I'm gonna go with GTX 780, which came out in 2013...
Me: Bruh... GTX 980 came out in 2014...
Or maybe he doesn't have a GTX 980, and seeing Ken pairing a Ryzen 5 5600X with RTX 3050 made me facepalm.
They didn't explain it but from the way they're taking, Both Ken and Austin couldn't check the prices of the parts they chose and Austin couldn't check the year a part was released. Ken chose the 3050 because it was new and cheap and since he can't check price to performance calculators, he went with his gut to get the cheapest new card he could find, being last year's 3050, still in stock at stores and the lowest end model.
Could have gone 980ti even!
@@Vikturus22 no 980 ti came out in 2015
What
Bro wants to not risk and picks 780 but it only takes 1 minute to google
Finally a new one
Exactly
It has been like 1 year and a half rigth?
True
20:30 Austin can’t even do basic math😭 bro said “minus” 7 times 😭😭😭
I swear Nvidia is paying people to promote the 3050. It was frowned upon when it launched and they doubled down and made a weaker version with the same name. Why not go all AMD, the 6000 series is way better than a 3050
It was all down to what they had spare, so if the 3050 is what they had it’s what they had.
@@EvilTurkeySlices amd would probably have been cheaper, since they do have some amd cards in storage...
Because 3050 is newer than any 6000 series card.
some people don't realize the cheaper 6600 is like 15% faster by default vs the 3050, so even if you considered DLSS(and DLSS at lower resolutions have more detail loss), it would still be a worse value than the 6600. and that GPU performance tier isn't something you would normally turn on ray tracing for either.
The RTX 3050 is not a bad graphics card, it just has a bad price (or overpriced in other words).
In Austin's defense, old PC parts prices are always ridiculous. Sellers think they have a gold mine just because they are PC components. It's cheaper to buy 2 whole PCs build the one you want out of the parts, then sell the donor PC for about half the money back if you wait a little bit. I got my $1600 PC for ~$450 doing this method(used parts, 2 PCs, sold the one with the parts I didn't want for a little bit to recoup some money for an upgrade). I hate spending $300/components on new items(exaggerated)
I love that Austin, after agressively celebrating his victory, was like "yeah that was some BS u should've won that" which I agree with. It's way easier to approximate which year certain CPUs or GPUs were released cuz they get released every year or 2 but other stuff like RAM, case, PSU and such usually take way longer to stop being relevant.
THIS IS A PRO PC!
... pulls out a 3050
Let’s get this to 500 likes 👍
its a value ratio thing
@@ThatOnionispog still though
@@ThatOnionispogyeah and they don't value the wasted energy that was consumed when that Garbo was moved from the shelf to the case
@@ThatOnionispog You can get a better AMD card for around the same price
@@nickyboii3403agreed. Kinda ruins the whole idea a "pro pc".
I missed this videos, they were so fun
The ram demerits were a bit unfair. The model of ram might have been released in 2015 but the sticks could in theory be only months old. But overall fun video. ;)
Well, when you think about it from the perspective of absolute age though Austin could've ALMOST had that RAM in his 10-year-old build so it makes sense that when limits were set that components for pro build had to be new, it makes sense to punish for that.
Does it differ in performance? No.
Was it completely against the agreed upon rules? Yes.
@@Janz_u if they did not have other available ddr4 ram why would it matter, its the same thing. he got off with the gpu for not being exact why complain when its the ram
The point is that the pro system should aim for longevity, and 2 years old at most, the system was supposed to be DDR5 with Intel or AMD by the rule.
But they HAVE stipulated that the parts have a certain timeline. Performance wise, it can be considered fairly new, but the point is the timing. I mean, would you say something from nearly 10 years ago is new? No, of course not. If it was just performance, yeah, it wouldn't warrant, but than, if that is the case, the guy doing the pro challenge could just pull the most powerful card they own from like 5 to 10 years ago with nearly the same performance for way less. Which would be unfair.
@@cttommy73 well that entirely depends. For example cars of the same model have yearly updates but they are still the same model. There are AM5 socketed motherboards with DDR 4 support meaning you can still use DDR 4 with the latest CPU´s.
That pro PC aint pro, sorry Ken
how austin said rtx 780 so confidently
I'd say Ken was robbed, but he picked a 3050. There were literally boxes of 3070s, 80s and 90s next to it
They’re probably empty.
The boxes of the GPUs you mentioned are actually empty, also it's not easy find a 3090 these days because the 30 cars now are so dated with the 50 coming out this or the next year
they're using whatever available to them
thats not the point....
I like how cartoon Ken has a chin. Luv ya!
Austin being so hip with his words haha love it
Rtx 780 be wild 💀
It is weird how the pro setup went with a nearly 4 year old cpu with a mid-range nvidia card. I only say it's weird based on how over the top the previous pro setups were compared to the relatively safe setup.
By the end of this video, I started to wonder how many memes of Austin could be made
I love the Broke vs Pro Series! ❤
LESSGOOOO MORE BROKE VS PRO :D
Just finished watching the last one xD nice video as always :D
Ken done lost his damn mind 😂😂😂😂
3050? Really a 3050 you know who buys a 3050 the people that can't afford anything else
Even they don't buy it.
Me: who still uses a almost 10 year old pc with a GTX 980 Ti and i7-4770k, honestly doesn't perform to bad for it's age today.
Same. Works perfectly 1080p. But it was put together in late 23. Total cost less than $200.
correction : a baller 10 years old setup
Haswell is a good processor. I wonder how it will go with Windows 11 though.
@@MissouriMatt54 Curious myself. I have only used Win 11 on 6th gen. But my daily driver is 3rd gen. It would be worth experimenting.
That was my exact build for about 8 years. Upgraded a couple years ago to what was initially a 5800X paired with a 3070 which has over the years and a series of trades and sales has been upgraded to a 4080. I was running 1440p and now I'm running an Aorus FV43U.
HUGE fan of refreshing the old format and the recent videos feeling more high quality. This is the Austin Evans renaissance
I was surprised Ken didn't go all-out with brand new, top-of-the-line parts. It was a clear Pro vs. Broke showdown, and I expected something closer to $2,000, not $638. Austin, on the other hand, came very close! I think he should've gotten points for making his build work in an older case. The extra time he invested deserves recognition. Imagine a challenge: Pro vs. Broke vs. Marketplace. Austin, Ken, and Matt each build a PC, but the twist is we don't know who gets which category. Austin might surprise everyone with a high-end build, Ken could go the resourceful Marketplace route, and Matt might land somewhere in between. It would be a fun way to see their different approaches and how they tackle the challenge!
> Roughly 2 years old
> Ryzen 5 5600X
??? That thing's like 4 years old.
Still sold at microcenter though.
Yes yes yes yes more broke vs pro content damn yes
OMG, Ken is wearing Risu's shirt!
I've watched Austin use a cardboard box to build a computer with, in real life. He can definitely get creative.
Sounds like fire hazard
Kens gotta fix the cut
He's need a nice bowl to throw on and cut around
Call it a hunch but I get the vibes Ken may not go by Ken for much longer.
Why do you care? Get a life.
@@kastastrophe34kendra
I've missed these so much! 🖤
i think Austin was a bit excited for winning! lol
Austin Finally won
Such a lovely series :3
I guess I'm just confused with the performance calculation. Cuz the 3050 was over 4x the cost of the 780, but only got double the performance, yet still won? And the 5600 was 7x the cost of the 3930k with only double the performance again...
When I converted my old Haswell based computer to Unraid, I had decided replace the CPU from an i5-467k to an i7 for vt-d features. Having that old CPU laying around, I had though about building a super cheap system with it.
I found out that motherboards for those CPUs are still rather pricey on the used market unless you go with modern no name one.
Is anyone team Austin, I am so happy that Austin won 😎
as someone once said
Motherboards are more likely to fail over time compare to a CPU, so old motherboards are very quickly dwindling in supply, which is why the prices on them are stupid high when the chips they go with are a fraction of the price.
Its finally back
Austin literally knows Ken was robbed lol
BROKE VS PRO IS BACK!!
So many npcs here bashing Austin for 780 choice and choosing 980 instead dont know anything about release dates
First of all. 980 and 980 ti were ANNOUNCED 2014 and came summer of 2015.
Second of all Ken made a wrong choice on the cpu. Ryzen 5600 and 5700x series came 2022. He is actually correct.
What he is wrong about is that 5600X came in 2020.
So basically he isnt wrong just confused.
Also that Fan choice Austin had is awful. He could have EASILY chosen stock cooler for intel or some older one. He already got a point deduction anyhow. And that amount of ram is pointless. 16 gb ram Ddr3 easily handles ddr4.
So he basically wasted 110$ on literally nothing.
best montage ever
Go Austin, with the hypomania at win the challenge at the end😂😂 then stating that it's all bull, and ken actually won🎉🎉
A better way to do this would be to compare a top of the line system from 2014 vs the most value for money build in 2024 to see how far things have come
What a tank build here Austin. So proud.
Wow I really like the quality on this video. It's really feeling like a tv show type. Good job guys
Austin made the right choice since the R9 Nano came out in Sept 2015.
Just for fun, I did a bit of research, turns out Austin's PC could've been either an i7-5775C & GTX 980 4GB, or even an i7-5960X & GTX Titan Z 12GB.
While Ken could've won with a midrange system like Ryzen 7600/7500F/7800X3D, and a better GPU but get an open box listing. RAM demerit doesn't make sense
The memory ken used is DDR4. He really shouldn't have been using anything less than DDR5. Honestly though they really should have made the rules clearer. For Ken it either need to be something you can still purchase at Micro Center, or 2 years old, but not both. This caused confusion because the previous gen Ryzen CPUs and previous gen Nvidia GPUs are still being sold brand new at most places that sell components.
I like how the one time Matt was not judging Austin won
Here's a fun broke vs pro idea, do broke vs pro Vr edition.
"thank you officer" had me rolling LMAO
I appreciated and enjoy the gameshow-style of Broke vs Pro.
Yesssssssss it's about tiiiiiime!!!!!! Now hit us with an Ultimate PC Build!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
"yeah that's some bullshit, you shoulda won that" best line of the video
this is the first time I wanted Austin to win so bad
Entire video feels like Ken is trolling.
Im so glad to see broke vs pro back. its my favorite series
I really liked this new version of broke vs pro they should do more like this.
Austin at the end. 😂🤣😂
miss this series
Let’s gooo! Another broke vs pro! It’s been so long🥹🥹🥹
That's an unexpected comback😂
Ken failed hard. Everything in his PC was older than 2 years.
Finally! I can stop watching the old one after 26 million times
finally a judge that lets austin wins good job jared
New Challenge! Put Vista back onto that machine and do modern gaming. The pins on the headers should be close enough to connect too.
I was waiting for WVFRM trivia here lol 18:05
18:07 I thought it was time…. For…. Some…… trivia!
Bro i predicted this ik austin wouldn’t go this long without posting broke v. Pro
Again?😂 You got to mix it up Austin 🙌
I've been waiting and finally it's back
Ken is gonna get his revenge by spending Austin credit card on the "Ken collection"😂😂
man I loved this edition of broke vs pro
Short and glasses versus short and glasses. 5 foot 4 versus 5 foot 2. Somewhere out there is Kyle, not at all caring 🫡
Finally a new broke vs pro video
Amazing turnaround in the end, did not expect the match to be so close 😊
Ken sounded like joker at 16:30
An interesting solution to the disparity here would be to require the pro to build the smallest setup possible and the broke to either have no size restriction or build the biggest setup possible.
the way Austin writes his 4's bugs tf outta me i don't know why
Austin kind of dodged a bullet by not picking that R9 Nano... Somehow the prices are outrageous on that card.
As long as it runs and stays consistent, it should be fine.
I like the new BvP unbiased format
ITS BEEN SO LONG I MISSED THIS
I like where he said complicated math and it was just performance/price. LOL
This should have called Old vs New Parts. Keep the same budget for each build and see if high end old part compete with new low end parts.
Best Broke vs. Pro Ever!!!!
I thought austin was going to use the famous scrap yard wars pc you know the one with the external power supply
Was Austin sick and not at pre-school the day they taught the kiddos how to write the number **4** 🤣🤣🤣
Seeing his reaction in this one, I get why everyone is rooting against him in these
That i7-4770K CPU was so amazing. I just recently upgraded to a better CPU... but had no issues with that CPU for a very long time.
This is actually pretty good. Plays like it's a tv show 😅
Ken is back🎉🎉🎉🎉
can we get pro e sports players for certain games to play in broke vs pro
I thought that was Dennis from LMG