Hey man, wicked stuff you're doing! Im a luthier based in jersey (the original one). Weve weirdly had a harricane for the fist time in 30 odd years. Ive been picking up what i can the past few weeks. Have a load of radiata over 200 yeara old. Hiping the strong winter winds here have given them some strength.
Hi dude, send me a picture of what you end up with. Maybe we can do a lil exchange? I've got some monkey puzzle (cites 1) and some good looking European sycamore and beech. Can give you all the documents as it came down in jersey from a hurricane and tornado. I've got a chainsaw mill and a new saw on the way so should process up nicely. Will need a couple years drying time tho.
Also have some awesome Turkish oak or something. It's an oak leaf but probably double the length of an English and grows straight. It's probably 65 yearsish. Also have some Scots pine (I think) that's probably a 40" radius and have a 4 m straight section.
I’m not super familiar with these species, most of the the requests I get that I don’t have the trees for are maple. You could tempt me with figured maple, but I try and source local, it’s just an effort to lower the carbon footprint on tops. Usually instrument woods have thousands of miles of trucking in the raw, it just makes more sense to process it as far as possible before shipping it across the globe.
@@MountainVoiceInc yeah man, for sure. Guitar making doesn't really use that much wood. If I can get a couple of years worth, I'm happy but I've already got more than that. I've also got a mate with a telehandler who's gonna help me out with a few more precarious bits between Christmas and New year. They're on steep hills so don't want em rolling.
Bob Montgomery used to sell Cutting Edge Sawmills many years ago. R.A. Montgomery. I have not seen one in decades. I considered buying one back in the early 1990s. Kudos to you for having one.
@@MountainVoiceInc Bob was operating out of Pa., but cutting edge was manufacturing in Canada. Lots of vertical and horizontal throat. Thank your Grandfather, it would be exponentially more expensive to try to find those two pieces of equipment in that condition any where else. Top notch equipment without a price tag that would take forever to pay off. You have hit the mother lode!
Ya I have had to break down a few big trees. It’s all quarter sawn, sort of. Quarter sawn usually has huge tolerance on grain orientation and focuses more on just cutting away from the pith. What we have here is every cut has the grain as vertical as possible, so lots more turning and adjusting.
G'day WMH, thanks for showing I'm interested in value adding to our boutique mills bottom line by getting into tone woods, as you said this is to good for dimensional lumber 👍.
It would be great if you continue making this into a monthly series. See if a guitar builder audience will support your program. Make it informative and get sponsored by saw manufacturers.
You thinking a monthly guitar top update would be interesting? Informative as in what is in the tree, what to look for, how to cut…. Getting a saw sponsor is a good idea, I’ll see what I can do about that.
@@MountainVoiceInc I would watch as much of this as you could find . I worked as a 17 year old in a summer job doing sawmilling and other farm chores. I have been in mechanical/ electrical trades most of my life. I find this very interesting. But I did get into guitar playing and a small degree of luthier work. Keep doing !!!
awesome . . . i have an old growth sugar maple 6 ft diameter... i have the whole tree and this is getting me so excited about the possibilities.... whether that be selling or...??? thank you as your enthusiasm is infectious
I’m stoked on getting the value and use out of a tree. It would be wasted as 2x4s and I love music, that’s my way of looking at it. I know some people only see tables because that’s what they like and know, but there are more options. Tables can have glue in them and look good.
I cut some flamed sycamore for guitar caps, I cut them 4Q to start with as when I had previously cut caps at 1/4" they warped really bad while drying. I am after a rainbow poplar log with some reds and purples in it for guitar caps and bodies. I am assuming you are cutting acoustic guitar tops, I make solid body guitars.
Ya acoustic tops here. We also cut electric body blanks from poplar, fir, birch, pine. Anything cool. The acoustic tops need to be stacked just right in order to not warp, it’s really finicky. I have found a different method since that is more reliable.
Advanced quarter saw, so basically we just keep turning it until the grain is vertical on every top. Have to cut out sections between guitars, those are violins. Usually people ask about run out. It was straight grained.
@@MountainVoiceInc I used to work at Larrivee, all those wedge cutouts used to be dumpster dive heaven for me. The first time I ever had to actually BUY brace stock I was very sad, lol…
That’s a latex paint. It’s used as an end grain sealer. I use it to slow the drying process as if left unsealed the logs start to crack after a while. I have tried various products for this and latex paint works as well as anything at a fraction of the cost.
Nothing we own is new, except maybe the wood boiler, but old tools usually work well, the table saw is bomb proof and simple, it doesn't throw material around but like most of the tool here will cut you if you're not looking.
You're right, I forgot to put all the artists in the description. That one is Rooftop by Bobo Renthlei i believe, I have updated the description, thanks!
Easy! Just head over to our website. mountainvoice.ca go to our list of products or search for guitars under instrument wood. Specify log 410 once you choose a grade or select one of the artistic dragon claw tops that have their own listing. We will ship it right to you.
Hey man, wicked stuff you're doing! Im a luthier based in jersey (the original one). Weve weirdly had a harricane for the fist time in 30 odd years. Ive been picking up what i can the past few weeks. Have a load of radiata over 200 yeara old. Hiping the strong winter winds here have given them some strength.
Hi dude, send me a picture of what you end up with. Maybe we can do a lil exchange? I've got some monkey puzzle (cites 1) and some good looking European sycamore and beech. Can give you all the documents as it came down in jersey from a hurricane and tornado. I've got a chainsaw mill and a new saw on the way so should process up nicely. Will need a couple years drying time tho.
Also have some awesome Turkish oak or something. It's an oak leaf but probably double the length of an English and grows straight. It's probably 65 yearsish. Also have some Scots pine (I think) that's probably a 40" radius and have a 4 m straight section.
Thanks! Put it to use. It’s worth salvaging most of the time. For backs I feel like there are lots of woods that work well enough.
I’m not super familiar with these species, most of the the requests I get that I don’t have the trees for are maple. You could tempt me with figured maple, but I try and source local, it’s just an effort to lower the carbon footprint on tops. Usually instrument woods have thousands of miles of trucking in the raw, it just makes more sense to process it as far as possible before shipping it across the globe.
@@MountainVoiceInc yeah man, for sure. Guitar making doesn't really use that much wood. If I can get a couple of years worth, I'm happy but I've already got more than that. I've also got a mate with a telehandler who's gonna help me out with a few more precarious bits between Christmas and New year. They're on steep hills so don't want em rolling.
Great job on this one guys. The guitar tops are going to be amazing!
Thanks Greg! The tops are awesome, lots still i havn't really seen since we cut them, but the ones i have got my hands on are something else.
Quality quality video and work. Million view video in due time.
Great video! Now I know where the guitar top made off!
Ooooh, gotta check out 410!
Bob Montgomery used to sell Cutting Edge Sawmills many years ago. R.A. Montgomery. I have not seen one in decades. I considered buying one back in the early 1990s. Kudos to you for having one.
My grandfather made a few good purchases over the years. I bought this one from him, but he bought it new in the 90s. Simple well made.
@@MountainVoiceInc Bob was operating out of Pa., but cutting edge was manufacturing in Canada. Lots of vertical and horizontal throat. Thank your Grandfather, it would be exponentially more expensive to try to find those two pieces of equipment in that condition any where else. Top notch equipment without a price tag that would take forever to pay off. You have hit the mother lode!
I really enjoyed your splitting of tonewood
Thanks
Like the chainsaw skills. Freehand as straight as an alsakan mill ! Not all quarter sawn ?
Ya I have had to break down a few big trees. It’s all quarter sawn, sort of. Quarter sawn usually has huge tolerance on grain orientation and focuses more on just cutting away from the pith. What we have here is every cut has the grain as vertical as possible, so lots more turning and adjusting.
G'day WMH, thanks for showing I'm interested in value adding to our boutique mills bottom line by getting into tone woods, as you said this is to good for dimensional lumber 👍.
Super great video! I learned quite a bit =)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello Paul Gilbert when did you start cutting logs?
Great Job.
Thanks
Hella good video thanks ehhhh
It would be great if you continue making this into a monthly series.
See if a guitar builder audience will support your program. Make it informative and get sponsored by saw manufacturers.
You thinking a monthly guitar top update would be interesting? Informative as in what is in the tree, what to look for, how to cut…. Getting a saw sponsor is a good idea, I’ll see what I can do about that.
@@MountainVoiceInc I would watch as much of this as you could find .
I worked as a 17 year old in a summer job doing sawmilling and other farm chores. I have been in mechanical/ electrical trades most of my life. I find this very interesting. But I did get into guitar playing and a small degree of luthier work. Keep doing !!!
awesome . . . i have an old growth sugar maple 6 ft diameter... i have the whole tree and this is getting me so excited about the possibilities.... whether that be selling or...??? thank you as your enthusiasm is infectious
I’m stoked on getting the value and use out of a tree. It would be wasted as 2x4s and I love music, that’s my way of looking at it. I know some people only see tables because that’s what they like and know, but there are more options. Tables can have glue in them and look good.
I cut some flamed sycamore for guitar caps, I cut them 4Q to start with as when I had previously cut caps at 1/4" they warped really bad while drying.
I am after a rainbow poplar log with some reds and purples in it for guitar caps and bodies.
I am assuming you are cutting acoustic guitar tops, I make solid body guitars.
Ya acoustic tops here. We also cut electric body blanks from poplar, fir, birch, pine. Anything cool. The acoustic tops need to be stacked just right in order to not warp, it’s really finicky. I have found a different method since that is more reliable.
I bought engelmann tops from Gord about 25 years ago. Is this an engelmann spruce, or a white spruce?
It’s an Engelmann Spruce. I remember the guitar top operation from back then. There might be a couple tops left from that time somewhere.
This is indeed a strange method of cutting tops. How did you account for keeping the grain vertical?
Advanced quarter saw, so basically we just keep turning it until the grain is vertical on every top. Have to cut out sections between guitars, those are violins. Usually people ask about run out. It was straight grained.
@@MountainVoiceInc I used to work at Larrivee, all those wedge cutouts used to be dumpster dive heaven for me. The first time I ever had to actually BUY brace stock I was very sad, lol…
What is the white stuff you put on the end of the logs and why/when do you put it on.
That’s a latex paint. It’s used as an end grain sealer. I use it to slow the drying process as if left unsealed the logs start to crack after a while. I have tried various products for this and latex paint works as well as anything at a fraction of the cost.
That 920 Cat is also a treasure. You will do well in the Apocalypse
Ha we make our own power too so ya probably, but I’m not prepping or anything.
How do i get a couple?!
Available on our website. Specify log number 410. www.mountainvoice.ca/shop/p/guitar-top-p77wk-g84ra
What is the guitar beat at7:27 of the video
That one is called is Rooftop by Bobo Renthlei, I added all the artists to the description, But Bobo's song seems to be the most popular
What kind of spruce is that? Great work!
Engelmann, thanks
Mike is pretty good on that chainsaw!
That's David probably. ha
Is your planer standard or the new fangled kind? I've heard new is far superior to old. Nice job. Keep up the good work!
Nothing we own is new, except maybe the wood boiler, but old tools usually work well, the table saw is bomb proof and simple, it doesn't throw material around but like most of the tool here will cut you if you're not looking.
Only hollow body guitars?
Flat top acoustics mostly, but there was more wood we split or cut for all sorts of instruments from that tree.
What’s the song from the short? You never gave credit
You're right, I forgot to put all the artists in the description. That one is Rooftop by Bobo Renthlei i believe, I have updated the description, thanks!
How can I buy some
Easy! Just head over to our website. mountainvoice.ca go to our list of products or search for guitars under instrument wood. Specify log 410 once you choose a grade or select one of the artistic dragon claw tops that have their own listing. We will ship it right to you.
@ The end of this video That Sawdust can be used for Growing Shiitake Mushrooms / Don't Waste it !
Is this pine tree?
Spruce
You could make some good adulterated bread by mixing in that sawdust.
Hah