@@autecheee it would have been too obvious. It’s already way to perfect they end up on same bus with same guy. In good TV they make it more subtle. Like how he grabbed at his neck from the PTSD
Even more surprising is the grunge metal band that made the original song is still together after forty years, and made a follow-up song about how much they still hate you. Now that's dedication.
There's no such thing as "grunge metal" and grunge is from the 1990s. Star Trek IV is the 80s. The guy in both scenes is a guy called Kirk Thatcher, the character he's playing is a punk, and he also made the songs which are punk songs.
@@kyle8952 Actually if you REALLY want to get technical, grunge did exist. It wasn't popular at all, it was a very niche thing that you wouldn't really hear on the radio. Bands like Nirvana didn't create it, they just popularized it.
@@StormsparkPegasus that's fine, but the song is obviously 80s-style street punk in the style of the Circle Jerks or the Germs, and so is the guy's outfit. Mega kudos for still keeping the flame alive 35 years later though, both to him and that band.
Kirk Thatcher! He didn't just play Punk on Bus! He was a prop maker for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and he even operated creatures on Spock's tomb in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. He was an Associate Producer on The Voyage Home.
Unbelievable that the Picard crew ran into the same punk with a boom box. It could be that this guy could inherently have some kind of cosmic significance, almost as if he were the temperal junction point for the entire space time continuum. On the other hand it could be an amazing coincidence.
It's also a plot hole that he remembers Spock from 35 years earlier, but Guinan doesn't remember Picard. A fun Easter egg, no doubt; but just as relevant as Spock not having chest hair in SNW
@@ModestlyAmazing Thats ok then !....was good...he looked quite upset when Seven asked him !......you rarely see follow up cameos....this was the best ever for that !
I hope he makes another cameo in 10ish years and plays the song quiet, but is asked to turn it up when a fight scene happens. That would make me so oddly happy :D
I bet that guy woke up like three hours after being knocked out by Spock and was in an entirely different part of San Fransisco and thought, "Did I get roofied?"
The Canadian mentality is because he knows what might happen if he put the volume up and give them the finger. :) (Fun fact: it's his own song, this actor wrote it)
I figured they'd try to do something like this. Wouldn't be surprised if they did something with whales too. Nostalgia is really all this show has left
KILLER, KILLER cameo. ST4 is my favorite of the movies-heard that song in Picard "no, it can't be..." AS SOON as I saw his face, instant recognition HOLY CRAP IT'S THE PUNK FROM THE VOYAGE HOME!
No it's just that Patrick Stewart is playing homage to the original Star Trek motion picture series that was a wonderful credit I'm glad that some Stars respect those that came before them and made it possible for him to have the job that he got now now that is respect.
I just always liked how they timed the "screw you" part to when he gives them the middle finger. I've had rare occasions where a line in a song perfectly lines up with an event in my life, it's fun when that happens.
@@corvus2327 They probably added the sound in post-production and edited that part to line up perfectly with the finger lol but it was still very funny.
You guys notice the song from the boom box in Picard yelling “35 years later and nothing much has changed”. Voyage Home was in 1986. Picard premiered in 2021.
All of these references this season are nothing more than an FU to their critics who pointed out that they didn't know anything about Star Trek. A couple would have been ok, but I counted almost a dozen in the first couple of episodes. It's so goddamn petty, lol.
@@logicplague It's almost as if the only way they can make their show watchable is to make it as much like good Star Trek as they possibly can. Yet still not understanding what it is at all, amazing.
@@DJ_Force I wouldn't say that, I doubt that any of them actually sit down and watched it, they probably just Googled a bunch of stuff to throw in. Like I said, one or two wouldn't have been suspicious, just cheap fan service, but with this many it's so transparent light actually accelerates through it.
I've not seen the episode yet, but this has just got me laughing myself stupid, that moment where he has a repressed memory recall of Spock silencing him, oh that is just pure perfection!!! :D
They’re just showing how punks in the 1980s were actually tough, but people LARPing as punks in the 2020s are soft as marshmallows. The meaning of having radically colored hair has completely inverted.
This is so cool, I even remember that punk scene in the bus from Star Trek IV....and you know what....it's even the same actor and the same song from the 80s Star Trek Film 🤩🤩😂👍👍👍 Thanks for that Cameo...
This was really sweet: his encounter with Kirk and Spock all those years ago changed him for the better - still a punker, but not quite as self-centered after that mysterious loss of consciousness ^_^
This made my year!! I never expected him to show up again, and I certainly never expected to see him react with such fear when he was asked to shut it off again. I am so happy they did this.
@@dash_r_media I posted the memberberry gif on the Picard FB page as a riff on all of the people gushing over this cameo. Surprisingly, my post was approved.
@@RurouniKalainGaming They do have some explaining to do. Like why did Guinan go back to Earth later in her life and hang out with Einstein. And in the process help reassemble Data. But not remember meeting Picard in his future/her past at her failed Ten Club on Forward St. on Earth in 2024?
I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if they did a Short trek taking place around the time of “First Contact” and had this character appear as a 100 year old being asked by Zepheren Cochran and the woman who worked with him to turn his song off.
same . I give credit where it's due , this was funny . although I think it might have been funnier if Raffi snapped his neck and Seven would have raised an eyebrow
@@MajorGrin Here's the thing about his cameo. The punk rocker seemingly remembers the neck pinch in 1986 from Star Trek IV, but according to the producers, the events of Time's Arrow never happened because the Confederation future now exists, so Guinan never met Picard in 1893, which is why she doesn't know him in 2024. So by that logic, if the Federation never existed in this current timeline, then Star Trek IV never happened and the punk rocker couldn't remember Spock pinching him. Though come to think of it, how did the Confederation stop the whale probe, or V'ger, for that matter? It's almost like the writers are lazy or something...
@@mrpopsicleman Easy. The Confederation still had to deal with vger and the whale probe and we know that Vulcan was part of it at one point. It's likely that General Kirk and his Vulcan subordinate Spock still had to come back and steal the whales and ran into this guy. The divergence doesn't happen for a few days so the events that would cause the Whale Probe incident would still be in play and need similarly resolved.
@@mrpopsicleman "If you're wondering how they eat and breathe, and other science facts, just repeat to yourself 'it's just a show, I should really just relax!' for Mystery Science Theater 3000!"
Then the emo-elf-super-soyboy-ninja character would somehow appear out of nowhere and say, "Please my friend, choose to live" and immediately slice his head off.
No! The first scene is in San Francisco. This is in LA. Also, a big punk town by the way. People move. We can even change, but it doesn’t mean the core is gone. Think tree rings.
Shows "the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time...there is such great significance to the passage of time."
Not trying to reiterate the previous comments but this cameo had me clapping with joy. Thank you for the nice easter eggs Picard. I look forward to some more.
Some of us still listen to punk and a bunch of other genres and blast it loud sometimes. I thought the scene was amusing. San Francisco and LA are not that far apart, and this influence does still exist here and in other places. It’s sci fi, let’s enjoy and not take too seriously. 😻
The cold had fact is, the people that normally write Nu Trek don’t know who this is or why it’s relevant. This here because of the new “Old” people being brought in to work on the show this year. Unfortunately, in spite of their best efforts… this show is still not good.
"'Member asshowe punk guy in staw twek fowah? Yeeeaahhh I 'member!!" Awesome to get the same guy, amazing to do another punk song with the same people, but completely fuck it up by having dude a massive pansy and, I hate using the term, but mega-cucked. Damn, it's cringe. Just have the asshole turn it down with a glare or even say something about being nostalgic for the song, anything other than guy completely filling his pants because suddenly almost 40 years later someone has the gaul to tell him to turn shit down again?
Okay, while kinda dumb and pandering, I sort of like the idea that this one poor man is just being tortured throughout his lifetime by travelers from the future. Like, these are just the two instances we see. How many other time travelers have assaulted this man??
@@Mephilis78 yep .. went through therapy and his first time out on the way home with his trusty boom-box he tries to listen to his fav. song again and boom ^^ back into the asylum he goes ^^
@@kaalesrex2933 That would make sense. He spent all this time in an asylum... tries to pick up his life exactly where he left off... goes and gets his hair did... and bam........ freaking time travelers.
Sure i get the reference, but it makes no sense, when was the last time anyone saw someone with a boombox? and if he gets ptsd from just being asked to turn it down now, why wouldn't the guy have invested in some headphones in the last 30 years by now? lol
There's even a vagina owning person with earbuds. Honestly this scene could've still been accomplished by just having him wear headphones at full volume.
Somehow, there is finally a scene in modern Trek that actually made me genuinely smile. It didn't feel like the irreverent dismissal or hollow imitation that so much of modern trek seems to be these days. How in the hell was it this scene? How?
@@dash_r_media I mean, I BARELY remember Voyage Home, fondly or otherwise. I'm a ENT and DS9 sort of guy. The scene holds no emotional weight for me, yet still got the smile. Just didn't feel cynical or insincere like the rest of modern trek.
aw, this was a wonderful little bit from Picard S2, i was like "No way is it that same punk on the bus from Star Trek 4?! And he's still living like its the 1980's, thats hilarious" XD
Shouldnt he be listening to it too loudly on his phone? because its not the year 1980whatever, and like thats the joke was that people with boom boxes in public were annoying but they dont exist anymore?
He wasn't groveling, he was being nice. I think that this happed for 3 reasons: (1) To show how things had changed from the 80's to the 20's (2) To further point out the fact that humanity is not all as bad as it may sometimes seem (3) To not judge books by their covers
She was the older Guinan in the 19th century, so this is her younger self. She must have decided to revisit Earth again and met Mark Twain by time traveling to the past (although I’m not sure it’s ever been established that her species knows how to time travel). I’m assuming they will “reset” time at the end of the season so that this never happened in the prime timeline, but El-Aurians are supposed to be able to be aware of alternate timelines so perhaps the writers created a huge plot hole here. IDK.
No it wasn't funny. It was further emasculating and total BS. You mean he would give the finger to 2 men but cower in fear with no reason to a woman? How about 7 showing her fighting skills like in Voyager but nope.
@@GKHTS Cowering in fear? Why would that even be something to consider? Are you the kind of person who stops being an asshole only if you fear someone? The dude in this simply acted like a proper, nice human being, while subverting expectations in a funny way. Gender really isn't any kind of factor whatsoever in this, unless you make it one for no sensible reason.
I love that he's listening to the "sequel" to the original tune and how he puts his hand up to his neck before turning off the music and apologizing. At least he learned his lesson from his last encounter with Star Fleet personnel. Well, kinda anyway. 😂😂😂
Would have been funnier if Seven acted more like her old stern self, maybe walked up to him to grab it away and chuck it out the window. Or he's sitting there as a more mellow guy. But now he's got his kid next to him, dressed like he used to, and singing this song with earphones on, flipping off Raffi and Seven. Idk
I like how he's years older much later on there, than Captain Kirk and Spock were in the movie where Spock knocked him out, and it's like he still hasn't changed. I guess some people, no matter how old they get, could still be the same decades later.
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffet.
This was really sweet: his encounter with Kirk and Spock all those years ago changed him for the better - still a punker, but not quite as self-centered after that mysterious loss of consciousness ^_^
I'm shocked they did this. It's fun and light hearted. I'm also shocked they didn't turn this into a 10 minute fight scene ending in Seven pushing the guys eyes in. That's the new Trek way. Live short and miscarry.
@@notabannedaccount8362 now that would have been funny and an interesting turn around where a punk rocker has kept the punk but managed to turn his life around. In comparison SH’s joke doesn’t land on several levels. First this is an age where headphones exist and smaller, compact portable music players. If he was a rebel against the system I could understand his desire for choosing an antisocial means of listening to his music but the moment he’s asked to turn it down he not only does so, he apologises. How many times must this have happened? You would think he’d invest in some wireless buds but instead we’re treated to the visual image of a man who has;’t moved on with evidence that he’s timid and compliant when it comes to shutting off the music he says he loves. However there is another point that is overlooked but Guinean’s scene opens up. Voyager also went back in time and thanks to their actions ushered in the digital age earlier than it should have. If Guinean doesn’t know Picard because his Confederation version of himself never met her in times arrow then this opens all further future events that occurred because someone went back in time potentially null and void. Nasically this would be a good opportunity to indicate to the audience that maybe technology hasn’t developed as quickly and the boom box is still a viable means of listening to music. But somehow I doubt SH took the long view of what their time travel repurcussions would be when they invalidated the Classic timeline. But this is what Secret Hideout do. Invalidate the old but pluck member berries from the old to shove into the new regardless of if it makes sense. The idea of the punk rocker actually being portrayed as perhaps a successful businessman is genius and in doing so raises questions that would honestly make him an interesting chapter to follow. Maybe he owns a music business. Maybe he started a family. So much to explore if your going to bring him back but for SH they’d rather spend the time having him act like a whipped Picard, saying sorry, verbally prostrating himself in the face of two women. There is nothing SH did in this scene that warrants the scenes inclusion other than asking the question ‘do u member?’ I’ll end it here before I go full Mauler on this one scene… probably to late.
Star Trek Picard is a little like someone digging up your dead granddad's corpse and parading him around for an hour. And charging you 7.99 a month to watch it happen.
@Waller Thraller I don't. Noone with even a mild intellect does. From the writer of Transformers. If you enjoy STP I'm sure you're a Hello Kitty fan also. Stands to reason.
@Waller Thraller you do realise you're commenting on a channel that is fairly openly against Kurtz Trek right? Or has that escaped you? You won't find much support for your views here little buddy. Stick to kids shows designed for delicate little cupcakes like you. 😉
Thought it'd be funnier if 7 glowered at him like she was going to say something and then they cut to later and 7 and Raffi are sitting with him and singing along. Raffi: What? I love classical music!
He learned his lesson and actually turned off his radio. That’s true character development right there
More character development than any other character in nu-trek, unfortunately.
No, he became woke
He even touches his neck
He's a punk, he always was woke @@paulanerruhrpott6188
Otherwise he does not seem to progress😅
First time in 40 years he dared to play his music in public. The PTSD from the Vulcan neck pinch…
Missed opportunity for them to have him say….’Don’t pinch me!’
@@autecheee it would have been too obvious. It’s already way to perfect they end up on same bus with same guy. In good TV they make it more subtle. Like how he grabbed at his neck from the PTSD
1:01 He touches his collar in a flashback moment. Brilliant.
Time to invest in some ear plugs dude.
@@darthroden apparently the guy has never heard of airpods.
Even more surprising is the grunge metal band that made the original song is still together after forty years, and made a follow-up song about how much they still hate you. Now that's dedication.
There's no such thing as "grunge metal" and grunge is from the 1990s. Star Trek IV is the 80s. The guy in both scenes is a guy called Kirk Thatcher, the character he's playing is a punk, and he also made the songs which are punk songs.
@@kyle8952 Actually if you REALLY want to get technical, grunge did exist. It wasn't popular at all, it was a very niche thing that you wouldn't really hear on the radio. Bands like Nirvana didn't create it, they just popularized it.
@@StormsparkPegasus that's fine, but the song is obviously 80s-style street punk in the style of the Circle Jerks or the Germs, and so is the guy's outfit. Mega kudos for still keeping the flame alive 35 years later though, both to him and that band.
Fun Fact: Both the original song and the updated version were written and performed by Kirk "The Bus Punk" Thatcher, himself.
@@kyle8952 I can't quite remember but I think he said they made that some in a hallway at the studio very quickly or something along those lines.
Kirk Thatcher! He didn't just play Punk on Bus! He was a prop maker for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and he even operated creatures on Spock's tomb in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. He was an Associate Producer on The Voyage Home.
Check that last name. He was also connected to Lady (former Prime Minister) Margret Thatcher. I believe he’s either her son or stepson.
@@jimhills1920 No he’s not. He’s not even British. Margaret Thatcher’s not the only Thatcher in the world.
He's also worked on a bunch of different Muppets projects as a writer and director.
and he wrote the song i hate you
@@jimhills1920 Thatcher was her married name, she was a Roberts.
Unbelievable that the Picard crew ran into the same punk with a boom box. It could be that this guy could inherently have some kind of cosmic significance, almost as if he were the temperal junction point for the entire space time continuum. On the other hand it could be an amazing coincidence.
He might be a Q watching events unfold.
He's the watcher!
*nods in agreement like Doc Brown*
Man this is heavy
@@pauls6963 Well, two of us got it, lol.
I like how he grabs at his neck, remembering the first go around and how it ended up for him with Spock.
i came here for this, and i had to scroll way to far down for it.....
That's the joke...
@shadow of boston:
No crap, Captain Obvious
@@darrynpolwart You might be the captain in this one chief..
It's also a plot hole that he remembers Spock from 35 years earlier, but Guinan doesn't remember Picard. A fun Easter egg, no doubt; but just as relevant as Spock not having chest hair in SNW
That was probably the best cameo ever.
But not in the French version.
As they had turned him into an absolutely awful woke crying dude. :/
Damnit.
Agreed!!!! hahaha that was awesome.
Nope ...David Soul in 2012 movie Filth.....great try though !
@@richardbradley2335 I obviously meant in Star Trek 😂
@@ModestlyAmazing Thats ok then !....was good...he looked quite upset when Seven asked him !......you rarely see follow up cameos....this was the best ever for that !
I hope he makes another cameo in 10ish years and plays the song quiet, but is asked to turn it up when a fight scene happens. That would make me so oddly happy :D
That would positively rule
I'm sure by now, he could have listened quietly with earbuds and not bother anyone. They didn't exist back in the 80s.
@@Elly3981 Who gives a damn about everyone else. Such songs are meant to annoy everyone around you. That's how the message gets through.
I bet that guy woke up like three hours after being knocked out by Spock and was in an entirely different part of San Fransisco and thought, "Did I get roofied?"
“For free??”
Took too much LDS
LOL if he was knocked out for a while and that was a long distance bus, probably woke up somewhere in Santa Rosa in Sonoma County.
Spock knocked that punk so much out so that he woke in front of 7of9 with changed attitude way to go Spocky
The term is "floories" or, as other prefer, "groundies".
His achievements through years:
-can now sing along with the song
-sick beard and ring in the nose
-Canadian mentality
"Space Expire Audio"
Yeah he went from 80s punker to 21st century beaten down Canadian mangina. Shame.
The Canadian mentality is because he knows what might happen if he put the volume up and give them the finger. :)
(Fun fact: it's his own song, this actor wrote it)
@@cengizc2456 I was referring to the fact that he talks too much :) The survival instinct is fine
Soooory, eh?
He also got priced out of San Francisco and had to move to LA
I never expected to see this wild of a cameo to come back to Star Trek, glad to see in some cases lessons are indeed learned
i wonder if it was a homage to lenerd who directed the voyage home
@@torquetheprisoner I can definitely see it being as such
The same character also has a cameo in Spider-Man Homecoming of all things lol
I figured they'd try to do something like this. Wouldn't be surprised if they did something with whales too. Nostalgia is really all this show has left
They just wanted to make him look like a loser.
KILLER, KILLER cameo. ST4 is my favorite of the movies-heard that song in Picard "no, it can't be..." AS SOON as I saw his face, instant recognition HOLY CRAP IT'S THE PUNK FROM THE VOYAGE HOME!
No it's just that Patrick Stewart is playing homage to the original Star Trek motion picture series that was a wonderful credit I'm glad that some Stars respect those that came before them and made it possible for him to have the job that he got now now that is respect.
@@asahutchinsonsuckslittledi1056 The whole season was a hommage to The Voyage Home 😁😁
I just always liked how they timed the "screw you" part to when he gives them the middle finger. I've had rare occasions where a line in a song perfectly lines up with an event in my life, it's fun when that happens.
Sometimes I have hone around the corner two or three times just to get home and park the car just when the song I'm listening to in the stereo ends...
I wonder how many takes that scene took.
@@corvus2327 They probably added the sound in post-production and edited that part to line up perfectly with the finger lol but it was still very funny.
You guys notice the song from the boom box in Picard yelling “35 years later and nothing much has changed”. Voyage Home was in 1986. Picard premiered in 2021.
Instead of the threat of nuclear Armageddon its about the rising sea levels, too!
It’s supposed to be 2024
@@terryprideaux Yup. That’s why I provided the dates of filming.
HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS??? You're all simpletons.
Nothing changed? You do realize atleast this guy learned to be more civil
Loved that it was changed to STILL Hate You. He was a producer on the movie - wrote that song AND sang it because he was into punk metal.
theres the real fun fact.
I missed that! Thanks.
Also. He's singing about "35 years later and nothing much has changed". Which is kinda true
Oh cool. I wasn't expecting him to be back. And to have the memory of what Spock did to him fresh in his brain.
Best CAMEO ever!
He literally aged with the series perfectly.
Lol. PTSD from Vulcan Neck Pinch from Spock. XD
All of these references this season are nothing more than an FU to their critics who pointed out that they didn't know anything about Star Trek. A couple would have been ok, but I counted almost a dozen in the first couple of episodes. It's so goddamn petty, lol.
@@logicplague So, then it's worse. They know about Star Trek, and knowingly ignore it's central message and themes.
@@logicplague It's almost as if the only way they can make their show watchable is to make it as much like good Star Trek as they possibly can. Yet still not understanding what it is at all, amazing.
@@DJ_Force I wouldn't say that, I doubt that any of them actually sit down and watched it, they probably just Googled a bunch of stuff to throw in. Like I said, one or two wouldn't have been suspicious, just cheap fan service, but with this many it's so transparent light actually accelerates through it.
This was to show how "strong" a woman can be. That if she just acts with authority that a man will comply....
I've not seen the episode yet, but this has just got me laughing myself stupid, that moment where he has a repressed memory recall of Spock silencing him, oh that is just pure perfection!!! :D
A joke 35 years in the making. At 36 I have been waiting my entire life for this one pinnacle.
This one...Paramount.
Sadly IMHO this was the best part of the episode
They’re just showing how punks in the 1980s were actually tough, but people LARPing as punks in the 2020s are soft as marshmallows. The meaning of having radically colored hair has completely inverted.
This is so cool, I even remember that punk scene in the bus from Star Trek IV....and you know what....it's even the same actor and the same song from the 80s Star Trek Film 🤩🤩😂👍👍👍 Thanks for that Cameo...
This was really sweet: his encounter with Kirk and Spock all those years ago changed him for the better - still a punker, but not quite as self-centered after that mysterious loss of consciousness ^_^
🤣🤣 love that Kirk Thatcher reprised that role. Sometimes, it's the little touches like that. 😀👍👍
He grabs his neck remembering that time spock got him with the claw
in 35 years no one else ever dared to tell him to lower it down
@@MajorGrin he reminds me of stingray from cobra Kia show lol
Ooooh, why didn’t I get that the first time
@@captcaveman4201 god I hate that character
@@MajorGrin speaking of 35 years… did you catch the lyrics on the song he was playing in Picard…?
This may be the “High Point” of the whole episode.
I think you mean the whole series.
@@Laneous14 you beat me to it
Yep.
@@Laneous14 EXACTLY lol
Great. The high point is yet another badass being downgraded to a millennial snowflake weakling.
This made my year!! I never expected him to show up again, and I certainly never expected to see him react with such fear when he was asked to shut it off again. I am so happy they did this.
OMG a Memberberry!!
@@dash_r_media a Memberberry? *raised vulcan eyebrow*
@@dash_r_media I posted the memberberry gif on the Picard FB page as a riff on all of the people gushing over this cameo. Surprisingly, my post was approved.
But then they screw up Guinan.
@@RurouniKalainGaming
They do have some explaining to do.
Like why did Guinan go back to Earth later in her life and hang out with Einstein. And in the process help reassemble Data.
But not remember meeting Picard in his future/her past at her failed Ten Club on Forward St. on Earth in 2024?
If Picard had been on the bus would his previous mind-meld with Spock have given him a sense of deja vu with this guy?
Yes
I doubt the half witted talentless hacks writing staff would even think of/remember/care about that.
Do Vulcans have good memory
His mind meld with spock was pretty superficial and only covered his memories of sarek. His meld with sarek however...
I suspect yes, and he would deliver the same nerve pinch, too.
That was actually funny while paying a homage. Nice to see that in Star Trek some conflicts can still be resolved with words, politely.
Is it just me or has Kirk Thatcher aged incredibly well? If I saw him on the street looking like his cameo I wouldn’t think he’s a day over 40!
Omg that’s the same guy. Awesome. They really are bringing everyone back
I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN FADE AWAY
Wanna bet they'll remake the Highlander and the villain is some do nothing black woman against white people?
@@Excalibur01 I'ts gonna be called "Highlandress" :)
There can be only one!!!🤘
Lolol you must be loving all of the new material to use lolol 🤣 😆 😂
I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if they did a Short trek taking place around the time of “First Contact” and had this character appear as a 100 year old being asked by Zepheren Cochran and the woman who worked with him to turn his song off.
*Zefram
I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that in Picard. Start trek IV is probably my favorite Star Trek movie.
same . I give credit where it's due , this was funny . although I think it might have been funnier if Raffi snapped his neck and Seven would have raised an eyebrow
@@MajorGrin Rios is already in lockup. They might have even bigger problems if Raffi were thrown in jail for murder.
@@MajorGrin Here's the thing about his cameo. The punk rocker seemingly remembers the neck pinch in 1986 from Star Trek IV, but according to the producers, the events of Time's Arrow never happened because the Confederation future now exists, so Guinan never met Picard in 1893, which is why she doesn't know him in 2024. So by that logic, if the Federation never existed in this current timeline, then Star Trek IV never happened and the punk rocker couldn't remember Spock pinching him.
Though come to think of it, how did the Confederation stop the whale probe, or V'ger, for that matter?
It's almost like the writers are lazy or something...
@@mrpopsicleman Easy. The Confederation still had to deal with vger and the whale probe and we know that Vulcan was part of it at one point. It's likely that General Kirk and his Vulcan subordinate Spock still had to come back and steal the whales and ran into this guy. The divergence doesn't happen for a few days so the events that would cause the Whale Probe incident would still be in play and need similarly resolved.
@@mrpopsicleman "If you're wondering how they eat and breathe, and other science facts, just repeat to yourself 'it's just a show, I should really just relax!' for Mystery Science Theater 3000!"
This was the best callback in the HISTORY OF STAR TREK. Rewatched 10 times and laughed my ass off every time. Amazing!
Wow, you're easy to please
@@dash_r_media Have some joy occasionally.
@@dash_r_media It makes life a little easier.
I must say this did not go as I expected. Not bad!
I thought 7 would kick him until there's blood all over the bus.
Then the emo-elf-super-soyboy-ninja character would somehow appear out of nowhere and say, "Please my friend, choose to live" and immediately slice his head off.
@@DudicalDudeMan And then saunter off to the nearest LotR set..
seven would give him a nice roundhouse...lol
Eye trauma him.
Same. I actually laughed lol
The guy has been taking the same exact bus while having the same exact look and the same boombox for 38 years? lol
Whoa, talk about deja vu!
There really are sad "grandpa punks" like that.
No! The first scene is in San Francisco. This is in LA. Also, a big punk town by the way. People move. We can even change, but it doesn’t mean the core is gone.
Think tree rings.
Trapped in a temporal time loop for decades. 🖖
Maybe it's been a really long bus journey.
Times have changed
Apparently not for this guy
Shows "the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time...there is such great significance to the passage of time."
I’m glad he turned up the volume for my 90 year old Grandma she LOVES that song!
its a nice little homage. plus looking at how color and light interpretation from the past to modern day, wow, what a difference.
Wow! Top tier stuff. I’m glad they’re not leaning too hard on nostalgia. Loving all the new, memorable characters.
He also appeared in Spider-Man Homecoming
Not trying to reiterate the previous comments but this cameo had me clapping with joy. Thank you for the nice easter eggs Picard. I look forward to some more.
the fear of the vulcan neck pinch is real.. dude will remember that for the rest of his life
Some of us still listen to punk and a bunch of other genres and blast it loud sometimes. I thought the scene was amusing. San Francisco and LA are not that far apart, and this influence does still exist here and in other places.
It’s sci fi, let’s enjoy and not take too seriously. 😻
If Nu Trek didn't have references and Easter eggs, it would have no connection to the originals
The cold had fact is, the people that normally write Nu Trek don’t know who this is or why it’s relevant. This here because of the new “Old” people being brought in to work on the show this year. Unfortunately, in spite of their best efforts… this show is still not good.
@@destinycaptain247 word
Yeah story lines are really 2eak almost as if people cant relate with each other
@@jessepope7726 word to your mother, my god man
"'Member asshowe punk guy in staw twek fowah? Yeeeaahhh I 'member!!"
Awesome to get the same guy, amazing to do another punk song with the same people, but completely fuck it up by having dude a massive pansy and, I hate using the term, but mega-cucked. Damn, it's cringe. Just have the asshole turn it down with a glare or even say something about being nostalgic for the song, anything other than guy completely filling his pants because suddenly almost 40 years later someone has the gaul to tell him to turn shit down again?
The voyage home is one of my favorite star trek movies, it has a sweet and funny vibe. Everyone seems to be having fun in it.
The second I saw this scene I just knew it was him again.
They turned Star Trek into simpville.
Incel alert!
He actually recorded a new version of the song just for the Picard scene. He's gonna release it as soon as he gets Paramount's permission.
Almost 40 years later and he’s still shook from the Vulcan neck pinch 😂😂😂😂
This perhaps is the funniest thing that I have seen in Trek. I give applause to whoever thought to reference back this to this guy. Awesome.
You're welcome.
I like how he touched his neck as if he had Spock PTSD
Okay, while kinda dumb and pandering, I sort of like the idea that this one poor man is just being tortured throughout his lifetime by travelers from the future. Like, these are just the two instances we see. How many other time travelers have assaulted this man??
Lol just wanted to make the same comment ... Spock couldn't have been enough to traumatise him like that
when Bashir and Sisko escaped from the sanctuary district they met him in the subway and Sisko kicked his ass
Imagine him trying to convince people that he's being harassed by time travelers.
@@Mephilis78 yep .. went through therapy and his first time out on the way home with his trusty boom-box he tries to listen to his fav. song again and boom ^^ back into the asylum he goes ^^
@@kaalesrex2933 That would make sense. He spent all this time in an asylum... tries to pick up his life exactly where he left off... goes and gets his hair did... and bam........ freaking time travelers.
That was great!!! Thanks for posting the side by side.
1:00 - The moment he rubs his neck, remembering the feeling of a Vulcan nerve pinch, and thinks better of defying an annoyed stranger :-D
Wow amazing! Give them the Emmy for bestest writing ever.
This was Glorious.
Though i have to admit i am impressed that even after all this time the dude is still a hard core punk. 😁😁😁
True. At least his mom's basement is his "kingdom", and he never has to call Doordash because he has his roommate's meatloaf.
the california punk scene is hella grungy. You find a look, it's your default even your hair is grey
You edited these 2 together perfectly. Kirk Thatcher saw at least part of it!
The way he felt his neck when seven asked him to turn it off 😂
Sure i get the reference, but it makes no sense, when was the last time anyone saw someone with a boombox? and if he gets ptsd from just being asked to turn it down now, why wouldn't the guy have invested in some headphones in the last 30 years by now? lol
There's even a vagina owning person with earbuds. Honestly this scene could've still been accomplished by just having him wear headphones at full volume.
Because it’s meant to be a funny joke that calls back to popular scene from old Trek
Headphones aren't punk
Or gotten an entirely new look or a car. The Picard writers are shitty at their job.
Not everyone is rich like you and can afford an iPhone.
Somehow, there is finally a scene in modern Trek that actually made me genuinely smile. It didn't feel like the irreverent dismissal or hollow imitation that so much of modern trek seems to be these days.
How in the hell was it this scene? How?
It made you smile because it was a Memberberry that you liked, end of
@@dash_r_media I mean, I BARELY remember Voyage Home, fondly or otherwise. I'm a ENT and DS9 sort of guy. The scene holds no emotional weight for me, yet still got the smile. Just didn't feel cynical or insincere like the rest of modern trek.
@@dash_r_media You're reducing down a person's genuine and heartfelt expression to a South Park meme in an attempt to degrade its value.
Shame on you.
I just love this , was buggin me so thank you
aw, this was a wonderful little bit from Picard S2,
i was like "No way is it that same punk on the bus from Star Trek 4?!
And he's still living like its the 1980's, thats hilarious" XD
Shouldnt he be listening to it too loudly on his phone? because its not the year 1980whatever, and like thats the joke was that people with boom boxes in public were annoying but they dont exist anymore?
Good god thats so sad.
Bro still feels it after 40 years 💀
I really enjoyed this little cameo.
Remember Star Trek 4?!!! Remember Spock?!!!
Picard's wine is made from the finest member berries
He likes science!
@@MajorGrin Apparently they retcon to explain why Picard has an english accent
That Punk sure does.
This made my night! I’m totally in love with this new season of Picard!
Definitely one of the BEST moments in Star Trek Picard so far!
Why does the punk turn it off and grovel before Seven of Nine?
Because when it happened in the '80s a crazy guy grabbed his neck and knocked him out. He learned.
He wasn't groveling, he was being nice. I think that this happed for 3 reasons:
(1) To show how things had changed from the 80's to the 20's
(2) To further point out the fact that humanity is not all as bad as it may sometimes seem
(3) To not judge books by their covers
plays loud music on the bus all the time. Only been told twice to turn it down in 40 years.
@@MarvelX42 lol really? It's because he's a man and women are better, It's their main message.
@@MarvelX42 nice?? He wasn’t being nice. He was A compete coward and in fear. Being nice would have been to not blast the stereo.
If he remembers Spock how come Guinan doesn’t remember Picard
Will Smith must have neuralized her
Bad writing…
Guinan has never been "Spocked" like the "Punk" was. :)
She was the older Guinan in the 19th century, so this is her younger self. She must have decided to revisit Earth again and met Mark Twain by time traveling to the past (although I’m not sure it’s ever been established that her species knows how to time travel). I’m assuming they will “reset” time at the end of the season so that this never happened in the prime timeline, but El-Aurians are supposed to be able to be aware of alternate timelines so perhaps the writers created a huge plot hole here. IDK.
GENIUS cameo! Perfect!
That was amazing how he touched his neck right before saying "Yeah ok, fine!" like he had a bad deja vu of what happened before.
My absolute FAVORITE moment from all the films (especially the part where he gives Kirk the finger, which always gets cut nowadays. Damn PC's).
Where has the part where he gives Kirk the finger ever been censored out? It's on the VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray AND digital versions of Star Trek IV.
@@edgeninja Some TV airings cut it while others do not. Depends on the network from Canada or the United States.
Who needs space exploration when you got the memberberries!
I love how he kind of instinctively reaches for his neck. 🤣
Much love - and kudos to the writers for this nice callback!
Ok, that was pretty damn funny. More like this please, Picard writers.
Not too often, but this one rocks! ( No pun intended! )
No it wasn't funny. It was further emasculating and total BS. You mean he would give the finger to 2 men but cower in fear with no reason to a woman? How about 7 showing her fighting skills like in Voyager but nope.
@@GKHTS Cowering in fear? Why would that even be something to consider? Are you the kind of person who stops being an asshole only if you fear someone? The dude in this simply acted like a proper, nice human being, while subverting expectations in a funny way. Gender really isn't any kind of factor whatsoever in this, unless you make it one for no sensible reason.
@@GKHTS probably is scared of people who stand up to him now because last time he gave someone the finger on a bus he ended up unconscious.
Obviously you are clueless about the agenda with this show along with Discovery unless you agree with it.
Well, at least spock taught the guy some respect.
I love that he's listening to the "sequel" to the original tune and how he puts his hand up to his neck before turning off the music and apologizing. At least he learned his lesson from his last encounter with Star Fleet personnel. Well, kinda anyway. 😂😂😂
So he's still doing the same thing 40 years later....how imaginative
Such an epic moment in the Star Trek original timeline. Love that they revived it.
Would have been funnier if Seven acted more like her old stern self, maybe walked up to him to grab it away and chuck it out the window.
Or he's sitting there as a more mellow guy. But now he's got his kid next to him, dressed like he used to, and singing this song with earphones on, flipping off Raffi and Seven. Idk
Neither of those are in any way funnier than the scene we got.
The second one doesn't even make any fuckin sense
Over forty years later. That is the best call back to any movie or TV series I've ever seen
Awesome awesome scene. This is why I love Star Trek.
they can't write the use Easter eggs to try to be relevant. And who use those boombox now...that's dumb
No matter how season two goes this cameo alone makes this season top tier Star Trek.
Now THAT was great cameo and nod to the fans.
I like how he's years older much later on there, than Captain Kirk and Spock were in the movie where Spock knocked him out, and it's like he still hasn't changed. I guess some people, no matter how old they get, could still be the same decades later.
White men, am I right?
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffet.
😬
That's disgusting
Your pfp looks like a hipster Sam Hyde
LOL. You have more creativity than the writers of STD. 😄
(Not that I encourage your activity, mind.) 🤪
I love the touch with his hand towards his neck like a buried trauma that makes him twitch.
This was really sweet: his encounter with Kirk and Spock all those years ago changed him for the better - still a punker, but not quite as self-centered after that mysterious loss of consciousness ^_^
I'm shocked they did this. It's fun and light hearted. I'm also shocked they didn't turn this into a 10 minute fight scene ending in Seven pushing the guys eyes in. That's the new Trek way. Live short and miscarry.
Never again will she kill just because someone deserves it dude. Except for those two guys she just vaporized this season.
I like how the guy reaches for his neck like he remembers what happened the last time. Lol
RIP the guys metal outlook on life where even an aging rocker has to apologize for existing.
Seeing him again was fun, but the resolution was lacking.
@@davfree9732 Would've been better to hear the old music - then see a wholesome clean-cut man with his family.
@@notabannedaccount8362 now that would have been funny and an interesting turn around where a punk rocker has kept the punk but managed to turn his life around.
In comparison SH’s joke doesn’t land on several levels. First this is an age where headphones exist and smaller, compact portable music players. If he was a rebel against the system I could understand his desire for choosing an antisocial means of listening to his music but the moment he’s asked to turn it down he not only does so, he apologises. How many times must this have happened? You would think he’d invest in some wireless buds but instead we’re treated to the visual image of a man who has;’t moved on with evidence that he’s timid and compliant when it comes to shutting off the music he says he loves.
However there is another point that is overlooked but Guinean’s scene opens up. Voyager also went back in time and thanks to their actions ushered in the digital age earlier than it should have. If Guinean doesn’t know Picard because his Confederation version of himself never met her in times arrow then this opens all further future events that occurred because someone went back in time potentially null and void. Nasically this would be a good opportunity to indicate to the audience that maybe technology hasn’t developed as quickly and the boom box is still a viable means of listening to music. But somehow I doubt SH took the long view of what their time travel repurcussions would be when they invalidated the Classic timeline.
But this is what Secret Hideout do. Invalidate the old but pluck member berries from the old to shove into the new regardless of if it makes sense. The idea of the punk rocker actually being portrayed as perhaps a successful businessman is genius and in doing so raises questions that would honestly make him an interesting chapter to follow. Maybe he owns a music business. Maybe he started a family. So much to explore if your going to bring him back but for SH they’d rather spend the time having him act like a whipped Picard, saying sorry, verbally prostrating himself in the face of two women. There is nothing SH did in this scene that warrants the scenes inclusion other than asking the question ‘do u member?’
I’ll end it here before I go full Mauler on this one scene… probably to late.
So the punk, just punked out. How sad.
Well he is now the "old guy" in this situation.
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that episode of Picard and realized that it was the same guy. Brilliant.
Absolutely great call-back!!
Thank you for finding the 1% of good parts so we don't have to watch the trash 99% rest of it.
Some of y’all maybe.
Star Trek Picard is a little like someone digging up your dead granddad's corpse and parading him around for an hour. And charging you 7.99 a month to watch it happen.
@Waller Thraller Hello Kitty is written better.
@Waller Thraller I don't. Noone with even a mild intellect does. From the writer of Transformers. If you enjoy STP I'm sure you're a Hello Kitty fan also. Stands to reason.
@Waller Thraller you do realise you're commenting on a channel that is fairly openly against Kurtz Trek right? Or has that escaped you? You won't find much support for your views here little buddy. Stick to kids shows designed for delicate little cupcakes like you. 😉
I didn't catch this on PICARD! Great clip!
I loved this! I’m currently liking the Picard show, I think they learned many lessons and are willing to make this show better
Thought it'd be funnier if 7 glowered at him like she was going to say something and then they cut to later and 7 and Raffi are sitting with him and singing along.
Raffi: What? I love classical music!