Luckily my husband, who was always a believer but not interested in reading the Bible or going to church, was flexible with me and understood how important it was to me to go to church and spend time in prayer and the Word. Over a few months of continued prayer for his salvation, he is now a dedicated church-goer with me and we read the Bible together nightly :)
A barnburner of an interview. Susan Heck is an encouragement for anyone wanting to memorize Scripture. The entire New Testament? That is outstanding. May the LORD bless you both!
Thank you for interviewing this sister! I am encouraged to listen to her teachings. We women have far too few mature women teachers & I have honestly been asking the Lord for a mentor that is under biblical leadership.🥰
@@monabruce-yg7ol Your statement shows the problem. I do NOT follow her or anyone else. As much as lies in me, I follow the word. Even the best of pastors or teachers can err in their teaching. That's why we need to always see if what they say matches the word.
Justin, thank you for bringing this woman to the forefront. I have never heard of her before. I have started watching her UA-cam Bible studies and they are absolutely life-changing. Thank you so much for shining a light on this woman of God.
i thank God for Susan Heck; during the early days of the COVID-19 shutdown, God used her to show me by the word that i was at the wrong church. Excellent Bible teacher, i have learned so much from her!
Hope ms Heck teaches about Gods word regarding judgement of others. If you don’t know her you shouldn’t ask a question like is she drinking is that why she isn’t teaching the word rightly
I think people wonder why she would.walk up to a stranger, a man, in the airport and ask to brush his hair...That seems a LITTLE weird to me ... .😮 . ..........@@clayhill8911
I started Beth's bible studies back in 2003. I had never studied or memorized scripture like I did with her. That being said, I stopped following her several years ago when she seemed to be more interested in being politically correct than biblically correct. I'll always be grateful for the love of Scripture that was instilled in me, and I do pray that she is okay.
@@lourusk7631 You heard her say. Do you have any source that you can cite that backs up your statement? Do you have two or three witnesses that can back up your statement? If not, I would not be repeating this. -pastor
Wow! I just discovered Susan a little while ago. Going to begin studying her teachings. That's amazing that you know them personally! Mrs.Heck is the first Biblically sound women's Bible teacher I have found my entire life. Praise God that many women have been taught the truth.
So glad to hear this. I was a BM fan for years. Now, thanks to God, I see her for what she is. I’m sticking to studying scripture for myself allowing God to speak to me.
Paul told us to him as he followed Christ, that should hold true of ALL who are in any type of ministry, this one included. If we keep our eyes on Jesus and not another person, we will not be disappointed. Humans always disappoint, not the intention I'm sure, but we are fallible in a fallen world. Sticking to scripture shows maturity, our relationship with Jesus, our Father and the Holy Spirit is THE most important thing.
@@sheilasmith7779 I even bought her Bible Studies and they weren’t cheap, but this was before she changed. She doesn’t resemble the Beth Moore I thought I knew. Now I have all these studies and I am stuck with them. I don’t want to sell them as I don’t want to lead women astray. Thankyou Susan for just affirming what I knew after there were men in her audience when she was on James Robinson. I was upset and stopped watching her. She always said her husband was off stage and he was was always her covering. Now I know he doesn’t have any interest in her so called ministry. This was in the late nineties and early 2000’s.
@@Anne-ry1dt I had been taking a Precepts class, which is excellent because it dives deep into scripture, and also because it has a format that the instructor must follow. We had studied some of John, and a section of Matthew. We received notices by email of new classes that we could sign up for, and we're informed of the fee(small) I receive the email from the instructor of a new class, and Beth Moores study material and Bible study guide would be used. I wrote to the instructor that some of B.Moore's teaching is false,( she denies complimentarian teaching) AND, only the Precepts format is to be used for Precepts classes. Her answer to me was that she liked Beth Moore and saw nothing objectionable in any of her teaching. Sadly, that was the end of my Precepts classes, although I still look for others that are Precepts instructors. Precepts courses are excellent but this woman instructor was quite, " woke," and unwilling to consider whether Beth's teachings are unbiblical. If we know scripture fairly well we will recognize false teachers.....and must walk away no matter how much we enjoy them.
Thank you Susan. First time hearing you. I'm so glad you stick up for the truth of the Bible. All of it. Thank you Justin for having her. I've just started watching you as well.
Only just discovered Susan I had all but given up on finding biblical ladies studies. So was so excited and have started looking for her books. A few years ago I was with a group of women and they were all talking about the Christian “self help and discipleship” books they were reading. I asked questions and to my surprise most have not read their Bible in ages. I put out a challenge to them to only read the Bible for 6 weeks. It was surprising how some really struggled and realised how addicted they were to these teachings and “teachers”.
Yes, you are right....the enthusiasm these false teachers are peddling, is addictive to the ego! They talked about themselves more than Christ and Him crucified for our sins. Beth Moore "uses" the word of God, instead of teaching properly the word of God. Her rise to popularity 15 yrs ago, raised red flags to me, so I listen to her some......then I got more red flags. Honestly, her mannerisms are hard to overcome, in order to get to the point of her speeches. Which, actually is mostly about herself and experiences. Needless to say, I wasn't encouraged thru her repertoire, about her life. Nor, was my faith increased or my joy in the Lord. I think we will be seeing her even go more radical and liberal; totally away from biblical standards for how to live Christian lives. She has already renounced her previous stand on certain sexual sins, which she has made very public. She deserves a stern public rebuke!
I agree with you Will! Watched the whole interview this morning and it was really eye-opening for me coming from a charismatic church. Heading to a church that preaches the word in detail and in great conviction. This was an excellent interview with Justin Peters and Susan Heck. I’m definitely going to share this with my wife as she believes in complementary teaching. Susan will be a great asset to her walk with Christ. God bless you and I also will seriously think about getting those two books that they promoted. I feel it is something that will help ground me better in the word and in truth.
Honestly I think Beth Moore’s real issues began when her daughter graduated either from Princeton or Yale seminary and came home and began teaching her I remember seeing that in a video she did and she exclaimed how her daughter was enlightening her, and then there after she had her daughter checking all of her theology, so I think she’s been enlightened by the secular seminary elite schools
Yes! You’re absolutely right! I have taught several of these studies, in times past, and I’ve had to correct her teaching, Hebrew AND her daughter’s, MANY a times!
Knowing what we now know about Ivy League Universities, I doubt very seriously that Beth Moore's daughter qualified for entry into any university with rigorous scholastic standards. Entry into and degrees from these universities are purchased and not earned.
@@nancydoubleday2716 It isn't my fault that these universities have destroyed their own reputations by accepting unqualified students for reasons other than qualifications. I am 100% innocent of that and they are 100% guilty. Therefore, every person with a degree from one of these Ivey League universities falls under suspicion because the dishonest actions of the universities, not me. When the graduate in question exhibits behavior and opinions that are contrary to the subject studied, that suspicion increases. It does so by logic, not bias. I am sorry that Beth Moore's daughter has a degree form a dodgy university. I isn't my fault. Beth Moore teaches a false Christianity. I hope she turns away from it.
This was very interesting to come across. A friend had wanted me to do a Beth Moore Bible study, but honestly, my spirit just did not witness to me that she was ok. I never stuck around for the particulars of why the Holy Spirit was steering me away, but now I certainly see why. Thank you, God, for your witness to me. . .
Narnia Girl. When I first got saved in 1975 I found the perfect church. The Beth Moore Bible studies were popular for the ladies of my church. I can't remember why I didn't go. I do remember I had a strange feeling about it. Now I realize that was the Holy Spirit telling me not to go. Thanks be to Jesus! 😇
@@Judyp77 Absolutely Judy! Seek truth above all and the Holy Spirit will enlighten and guide us. Dont follow people that dont follow scripture, men or women.
2Timothy 4:3 "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions". Thank you both for your commitment to the truth and sharing God's word. I pray you continue to share these videos and be greatly blessed by God!
I love the gentleness and love, with which this interview was conducted. I enjoyed this immensely. God bless you both. I will be exploring all of the resources that are provided in the description box.
I live near Houston and was enthralled by Beth Moore in the early 2000s. My sister-in-law and I at the time would drive to her Women's Bible study at First Baptist Church which held 1000 people. I was a new Christian and it seemed like she made the Bible become alive for me. I did not know what I did not know at the time. All of it was so wrong but I wouldn't understand until just a few years ago. All that time I thought I was saved but I was not. I stopped listening to her and fell away for years but I remembered that time fondly and thought I was closer to God and would buy books occasionally by her and read them but felt nothing. Eventually I felt spiritually bankrupt. I questioned if God was even real. I stumbled across John MacArthur on UA-cam and quickly absorbed his sermons like a sponge. I could not get enough. And then there was Paul Washer and then there was you Justin. I finally found true repentance and faith that came from Grace that resulted in a regenerate heart. I learned about complementarianism the right way the real definition! I'm in tears right now. I know I'm stupid. If only I'd known while I was still married. I'm chronically ill so I get my sermons mostly online. Thank you for having this special lady today. I will go find her right away and follow. I need this so badly in my life! I'm actually trying to teach my 16 year old son to memorize scripture!( he takes his John MacArthur Study Bible to school and reads it to some of his friends🤯🤫❤) I want to be like you ma'am♡memorizing scripture. I take alot of meds sometimes I can't get my own thoughts out🥺 sorry for the overshare. Thank you Justin From one Slave to two for and in Christ Amen
Ohhh my precious sister in Christ I ask you Lord to heal JeanMa’s body and mind... touch her Lord by your Holy Spirit. I ask in Jesus Glorious holy name amen
Your words brought tears to my eyes, especially about how your son is reading his Bible in school. Glory you God. It’s beautiful to hear that despite what you e been through The Lord has used you and has shown His grace to your family. God bless you siater
I have never heard anything like this before. It seems like gossip, judgement and condemnation. I don't know this person but it seems like the word tells you to go to her. Not to gossip about her. It sounds like you are prideful and hold yourself up. We are not to follow anyone. We are supposed to be humble and kind. I wish you the best but calling people names seems to go against God.
Be careful! John MacArthur said on video years ago that even if one takes the mark of the beast, one may still go to Heaven. Scripture plainly states that anyone who takes the mark of the beast WILL not be forgiven. Be careful.
While I see Beth Moore leaving the plumb line of scripture as of lately, calling her narcissistic, and dramatic her teaching disgusting and actually saying she is going to hell.... you can't say you aren't condemning while you condemn her. And your pride of not teaching men and being on you tube teaching men causes me to have caution with Susan Heck! Because you say one thing and do another. I am a biblical counselor . I know the truth but the truth without love is deceptive! I think you could caution women about Beth Moore without your condemnation! I use to listen to Beth Moore and she taught the gospel and repentance back then. As I have concerns where Beth Moore is taking her teaching today this is condemnation goes beyond scripture!! I do not see any humility in Susan's teaching on this you tube. For someone who prides herself in the WORD she doesn't reflect God's mercy, grace and love! I would love to see Christians in love correct and not condemn! You have lost my support.
Can't watch the whole thing. But two questions: Have either of you (in the video) ever spoken to Beth about any of this? I THINK the Bible tells us to go to her FIRST. I'm looking for where it says to publicly criticize her in front of the whole world, without speaking with her personally, first. To the man hosting this video, so you EVER speak to the person personally first, that you're complaining about? I don't know much about Beth Moore at all. But the tone of this interview is hateful towards a sister in Christ, whether you agree with her theology or not. Matthew 12:25 says any kingdom divided against itself will fall. We want to build God's kingdom, don't we? Correct? Yes. Humiliate and condemn? No. There's scripture that tells us to touch not God's anointed. Ephesians 6:12 tells us that we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, yet it sounds like you're choosing to wage war against a woman who is flesh and blood. War in the heavenlies, not on the airwaves. The body of Christ needs to unite, not condemn each other.
Yes I saw Beth Moore back in 1997 in Germany when my husband was stationed there. She was more in line with scripture back then. I informed my Womens ministry director years ago about her teachings and how they are not biblical but they have continued to do them. We have left this church and now attending a bible teaching expository church.
I attend a Presbyterian conservative church and I don't hear "repent" very often either, its not just Beth Moore who lacks. It absolutely should be spoken of much much more than it is.
Thats because ALLof these "churches" are Babylon. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride are not heard in them. We were warned of these things throughout scripture. These places are harlot houses of great confusion, Babylon means confusion. Its just like the tower of Babel. This system is also referred to as spiritual sodom and Egypt. Satan's ministers disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness, just like the scriptures say. These places are synagogues of Satan where lies are taught. Thousands of denominations claiming to be Bible believing churches but are divided against each other. Thats because the whole thing is completely carnal. Either we have heard the voice of the Son of God and come out from among them or we are under strong delusion in Babylon. Only the Good Shepherd has good and sound doctrine. People attending these places have given heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. Sounds harsh but absolute truth. Come out of her my people.
Most in Ministry.....that Talk more about themselves than Repentance..or Helping others...its So Easy to Discern what & Who they Serve..& what you are to do...Turn them OFF
Repent? My studies have shown me it means "To change ones mind". Check the Greek. Changing 1's mind is the beginning of changing 1's behavior. You won't change how you act until you change how you think & what you believe. Some are unwilling to even consider changing their mind. To reevaluate. Be leary of those who think they cant be wrong.
I do not believe it needs to be spoken more than once it needs to be practiced more. The Church is a group of believers, we already know we need to repent, and if you are reading the Bible as you should, it will remind you, and your heart should convict you.
Thank you so much for talking about this! I always felt guilty because I just didn’t get the Beth Moore Bible study! I took a class at my church following one of her study guides and videos. It was so confusing to me- she talked a lot , but never said anything that was deep into the Word!
There is nothing hostile to what I said.. just warning you not to touch God‘s anointed regardless of what they’ve done and who they are David refused to touch even the clothing of King Saul what I’m bringing is not hostility just correction my brother and that’s called love.
@@brendaburton392 Moore has been approached privately yet continues her false teaching, and since her teaching is public then it is entirely appropriate to address the issue publicly. Indeed, God commands His people to address false teachers publicly so that other people will not be led astray.
Interesting that you use David's private attitude toward Saul to prove this interview is in error. Privately, David would not kill Saul because he knew life and death was in God's hand. Publicly, however, David loudly opposed Saul in the hearing of all of Saul's army, and it momentarily caused Saul to repent. That whole "not touch the Lord's 'anointed'" argument is taking 1 Samuel 24 way out of context.
I remember years ago when Beth Moore was starting to gain popularity all the ladies in the church I was attending were going gah gah over her and going to her events. I was not impressed with her teaching and found her to be kind of wacky. I never understood why people were drawn to her.
She is a false teacher, wolf 🐺 in sheep's clothing🐑.. she is off the right path, and she is exhausting to listen to, she is quite manic. I stopped going to her Bible study a few years ago, most of it is all about her. Many women at the Church I attend are obsessed with her, it's sad. We must be discerning, and continue to pray for discernment.
There are a lot of different fish in the world…God didnt make us all alike. Beth Moore has a large following because people can relate to her, God set her up to attract fish that other teachers do not attract. Picking people apart like that is unGodly. If you have anything to say about her, make it about scriptural err.
Yes, exactly.....many women aren’t not thinking critically. When I bring up the same issues about Beth Moore, my friends get mad. They love entertainment more than truth.
I do agree that there are many church services that are more like entertainment than ministry. That's not to say we can't have a good time in church, but anything can be taken to an extreme. In both directions.
I feel dirty for having watched this podcast. Listening to one woman castigate and discredit another... especially a woman who has dedicated her life to WOMEN'S ministry, to the degree that Peck does is unchristian. It should pain her to judge a sister in Christ publicly like this, but clearly it does not. The only one who is behaving UN-Christ-like is HER. If you are a Christian , you probably sense this. Something about the way this woman is speaking about Beth feels wrong. That is the Holy Spirit , people. It IS wrong. You know it in your spirit that this is Not how Scripture tells us to deal with other believers. This woman reports that she knows her Scripture but she does not know the HEART of Christ. Run from her!!
I just finished Susan Heck’s talk about the book of John 1. She explains everything about the scripture, in a wonderful way that I can understand. Speaks only the truth of The Holy Bible . Thank you so much , Mrs. Heck .
Great interview!!! Thank you for the book recommendation on The Excellent Wife... My husband is not a believer so this will help. Please pray for my husband, Nick and also pray for an older woman to lead me. I have gleaned much from your ministry and look forward to checking out Susan’s ministry. May the Lord bless you and yours and continue to sustain you by His grace 🙏🏼
I very much enjoy listening to Susan Heck and really pray for a woman like her to disciple me. I’m a single women (single mother) desiring to grow deeper in my walk with the Lord and knowledge of the word of God. Thanks for this interview.
I have just run into this today. I have been in women’s ministry for 23 years and a teacher for close to 40 years. I agree with Susan Heck wholeheartedly. It’s very sad how many don’t know scripture and are led by what they are hearing. From the first time, I ever listen to Beth my spirit was quicken when that happens we are to heed. My heart grieves as well on how many ladies are misled and what to make the scripture say what they want it to say. May we be fervent in prayer and faithful to His word. Thank you for this pod cast. May you be blessed and may His face shine upon you.
Years ago I went to a Beth Moore study at my friends ladies group. It was about David. I bought a couple of her books but never read them and I loved to read. I never understood why except for some reason I just didn't want too. I never watched another study. My friend was enthralled with her ( she also liked Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer). I now know why I did not read her books. For a long time I felt like something was wrong with me but I know now there was not. Thank you for this. I really appreciate it.
I felt that way on a lot of books and Bible groups I was in. Even women conferences and event Im invited to, I love to read, and purchased books recommended to me, but for some reason couldn’t come around to studying books by these women Joyce M, Beth Moore books Christina Cain, Pricilla Shriner and list goes on...Something did not seem right. I really believe it’s God protection his children.
Funny how Beth Moore always brings herself to the forefront at the beginning of every...whatever she does. She began to drive me crazy with her hair stories being the prelude for so many of her lessons. She was just too much of a glory hound. I’m so glad I quit her years ago and threw away all of the study workbooks.
So did this woman in this video. And the host. They went on about what a "great Christian" Susan Heck is, why she even has the NT memorized. She has a lot of credential I certainly don't have. All I have is the blood of Jesus shed for me.
I start with, I have not done a Beth Moore bible study since 2004. I have no authority to speak on current day Beth Moore. I am in shock with this video. God used Believing God by Beth Moore to put me in right relationship after I walked in a sin for a year. I had been a strong Christian and through self pity allowed sin a too comfortable place in my life for a season. Through meditating on faith Scriptures, God healed my mind and my behavior and brought me to repentance. No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind can conceive what God has prepared in advance for those who believe, I AM BELIEVING GOD. Through learning to meditate on Scripture....for 4 months on a verse that started as a meer mantra, God restored and increased my dead love to a vibrant love for my husband. When people say, I don't want to be ugly but, ....I cringe. I think the next words probably SHOULD NOT be said. I married a man who did not seek Scripture. Beth taught me t hat my relationship with God was still vital regardless of his. What are you saying? Do not apply I Cor 7. Of course, the man is to be the leader. I am appalled listening to this. Are you saying We are to leave weak spiritual men or do we not live a life of love and holiness before our men as well as others....and trust the Holy Spirit to do His job! I hope that I have missed the last 15 years of Beth Moore. I hope what you are saying is true. Not for Beth's sake but for yours. But as I awake this morning to this podcast I feel anger, I feel judged as a Christian counselor who could have done better or wiser had my husband been a pastor or podcast Christian man. No thank you, I want to encourage listeners that God has a plan for our lives and He uses the humble INSPITE OF OURSELVES. He speaks through donkeys. Rahab the harlot is in His genealogy; Ruth slept at a man's feet and honored her mother in law and her God; my goodness about Tamar who tricked her drunken father in law to impregnate her. I know she would be talked about!!!.....and sisters, remember the expression The Lion of Judah?? Well that was JUDAH doing the drunken impregnating! And a man after God's own heart had sex with Bathsheba and killed her husband. Bathsheba made the line up in Jesus ' geneology!! There is HOPE for us. He takes what we have, as broken and spilled out as it may be, and he can feed 5000 through us. Be encouraged those of you who are sinners. Those of you who have not memorized books of the Bible. Those of you who are are coming out of sexual abuse, broken marriages, breakers of marriage, apathetic listeners. God has a plan for your life. The Being Perfect Job has already been taken and fulfilled. And we killed Him on a cross and HE ROSE NEVER TO DIE AGAIN. It is through Him, Jesus our One and Only, that we have been chosen and He gives broken women a high honor in His lineage! If you have never understood how the OT works or how it can be so different from NT, I encourage you to get A Woman's Heart, God's Holy Tabernacle. Beth explained the festivals and showed how many had been completed in NT. We eagerly await the fulfillment of the latter 3, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles. To hear the sound of a shofar has beautiful meaning and I eagerly await it's future calling. After reading this Bible study, my list of Scriptures prophesied in OT and fulfilled in NT has grown immensely. How can one NOT believe. Give your talents to the Lord and allow Him to use them. Whether you give an upper room for a traveling minister or for the Last Supper, or a puffed hairstyle from the 1980s from a woman who delighted that charismatic personality in the lord. He will take the equivalence of a Happy meal and feed 5000. Will you be scrutinized? Obviously. Will you be attacked by people on the same side of the shield of faith? Apparently. Read psalm 55 if that is your truth, too. Amazing what a man after God s own heart cried out to God in his anguish of suffering while being scrutinized by someone he believed to have been safe. Just horrible.but the mental redemption ( psychologicalqqq sort of word) came by focusing on the attributes of God at the the end of Ps 55. Beth Moore maybe scrutinized by these two.but when I walk through the gates after I scream....I WANT TO SEE JESUS.... I will get around to singing thank you for giving to the lord. I was a life that was changed. And I will give Beth Moore a nod and a wink.
Thank you for your testimony dj. What they're saying about Beth Moore is not true except that she no longer believes the complementarian teaching which gives all authority to men in the church. As for context when interpreting Scripture , these two are entirely ignoring cultural context ... . How much of a role in society did women have back in OT and NT times? How many could read?
You should not be shocked. That is how religious devils operate. Someone always ALWAYS has to lose. Comparison, condemnation - notice all general, nothing specific. Judging people she knows nothing about about. So much wrong with what is said in this video. But just one - the dean of my Bible college traveled to Israel. Their tour guide, a Jewish non-believer, also had the entire New Testament memorized yet was not a Jesus follower. So . . . 1John 4:1
Is this commentary on Beth Moore really necessary? I like many others scratched my head about some of her tweets but devoting all this time and effort in speculation about her character, motives etc makes me uncomfortable. I have done a few of her Bible studies and I never saw anything unscriptural in them.
Beth is leading women astray, she is becoming more and more secular and outspoken on issues. This video is a warning to all the vulnerable, gullible women to not follow blindly and put on a pedestal the false teachers and preachers which abound,especially now in the last days.
She is defying Biblical teachings and her Biblical authority. Regardless of what she says, she is out of step with God and what He has said in the Bible.
I am so glad to see this. I actually lived in a small town in Utah where there was only one Christian church and their “ladies Bible Study “ was nothing but Beth Moore DVD’s and books. I had to quit going and I told them if they ever wanted to do a study where we open our Bible’s and study Gods Word, to please let me know. I had a friend in Salt Lake City and the same thing was happening in her church! So I started the “Beth Moore , no more!” Movement. We even had our own small retreat when a Beth More event came to Salt Lake City.
I attend a church in Australia, and Beth Moore was very popular. I did a few of her studies years ago, and felt in my spirit she wasn't on the right path. She became more manic and things she said weren't biblical. She is very self serving and vain. I started to say I needed "less of Moore" .. the Bible study leaders weren't interested as they had her up on a pedestal. Thankfully these leaders have left the church and no more of Moore!!!
I wish I could share the whole interview on social media. People need to know about Beth Moore. I am still learning how and why she is so dangerous myself. Thank you brother Justin and sister Susan!!!!
Watching this at 7am in China ☺️Two of my favorite people! ❤️✝️ This was very helpful wow! God bless you! And I'm very impressed by Susan's commitment to memorize the bible, so encouraging! I tried her method and it didn't work very well 😆 maybe I'm not as diligent as I need to be (my brain probably works differently and I need songs to help me memorize). Lord help me 😭
I can recommend Jason Silver, The Bible Song Word for word ministry and Esther Mui (channel is called- Christian Worahip & Scripture Song) on UA-cam. They've helped me to nail down Scripture memory by putting the Scriptures to music. I need a mix of song, reading and loudly reciting from the Word and writing it down, over and over, to commit anything to memory. I think you should find a method that works for you and stick with it 💪👍 you can do it by the power and help of the Holy Spirit! 😁💪
I caught Beth on TV a month or so ago.I am 70 and was shocked at her dress, her acting and did not understand a word of what she was pushing..It was like watching a bad actor..That did not settle well with my spirit..You are the first to confirm my feelings..Thank you..
@@johnnyharry467 Your seeming command at an older woman comes across as disresptful. Would you be willing to present Scripture, which supports your comment? And consider taking the time to explain yourself humbly? May Christ be honored.
I’ve seen a lot of people speak against Beth Moore but it’s not my place to judge her but I’m not watching her or going to her meetings and churches using her books for Bible study is not right to me.
Note of appreciation to Susan Heck. She has been a blessing and inspiration to me to memorize scripture. It's difficult yes but it's a wonderful struggle (if that makes sense). I listen to her often and hope that I could attend one of her seminars in person!
Wonderful interview! Ive been going through Mrs Heck's studies on 1 Timothy and love it. So much so i passed it on to my pastors wife and another lady in my church. In saying that, we use kjv. But i dont mind a select few other versions being used. I believe Susan uses NKJV so i figured it was close enough. A couple of days later my pastors wife texted me back and said while Susan was good, i shouldnt listen to anyone who doesnt use kjv and doing so only leads to confusion. 🤦 i told my husband and he just shook his head in disbelief.
Royal Deceptions: Exposing the King James Only Conspiracies ua-cam.com/video/Lyu_MPe2ZvM/v-deo.html; King James Onlyism? ua-cam.com/video/NBWBytK8gnQ/v-deo.html
A couple of years ago my church's women's bible study used a book/series that taught by Jennifer Rothschild called Me Myself and Lies. As we watched this study on video, i noticed that she refrenced beth moore. I immediately became upset, because i already knew moore as a rebel and heretic. Then i looked into Rothschild, and found out she's part of the charismatic movement. I didnt go back, but i didn't say anything. No I'm upset at myself, because i see and here that some of the women at my church listen to moore and joyce Meyer. I honestly feel that the lady, nice as she is, has no discernment when she chooses these bible studies. She just doesn't do her due diligence in examining these books and authors. Im afraid that this pseudo christian feminism is going to invade our church and destroy it from within. Id like to tell my pastor, but im afraid he'll think im some kind of rabble rouser complainer. He teaches sound doctrine, but i dont think he checks what this woman is bringing into the womens study. I will continue to pray about it, but id really like a suggestion of whether i should confront the pastor and bring this to his attention.?
I’m SO thankful for people like you all that point people to the Word! Studying Scripture has been so life-changing for me that I now truly hate shallow, emotionally-manipulative false teachings that lead people away from the Truth. “Through your precepts I get understanding; therefore I hate every false way.” Ps 119:104
Great interview w Susan Heck. I’ve listened and watched lots of Susan’s series teachings on UA-cam… she’s an excellent Bible teacher. Great expository of the word…Thank you for featuring her on your channel.
Thank you Justin for waking up people on the false preachers, I used to watch alot of these people but something was very unsettling in my spirit about alot of these preachers. Now I know why.
Straight up I’m not in disagreement with the Beth Moore is but your RED FLAG COMMENT has stirred me I guess if God told you “Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof. And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it. Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink. Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.” Ezekiel 4:9-11, 15 You’d fly a red flag
@@beppiek There is NO comparison. You are taking God's OWN words out of Scripture and comparing them to Beth Moore's. There are two words for that - comparing the two is called blasphemy. God DID give those words to someone HIMSELF, as clearly, it is IN the Scriptures. The other word is idolatry - Your lack of discernment is causing you to fall into idolizing Beth Moore, and so much WORSE when you even THINK of comparing anything she says (OR how she says it) to God's own Holy word. The Scriptures are CLEAR about how God speaks today and about what He speaks today. Rather than take God's own word, you take Beth Moore's? I MUST ask: ARE you serious? Talk about a *RED FLAG!* It is commanded more than once in Scripture that a woman is NOT to be behind a Pulpit. What is there to NOT understand? Beth believes she *belongs* there. That ALONE should send you running, but again, discernment is required. Not to mention the MANY bizarre and the "woke" things she has come out with lately. A question - DO you read your Bible? As that does grow discernment, but sorry, I see none in you. I saw Moore was trouble when she changed a 10 year old book saying that she was out of line (for telling the truth in Scripture) concerning God's own words on Homosexuality. You REALLY need to work on your discernment, and get into God's word for HIS truth. Compare what Beth is saying and doing *against* God's own Holy word. Idolatry is sin, and sorry, but your comment has Idolatry *SCREAMING* all through it. You really need to choose: God's word or Beth Moore's word - and all this is as lovingly as I can say it considering the utter shock I am in that you even dared compare God's word to whatever Moore says. Stunned. I pray that you wake up and you repent. This is so totally a VERY serious matter. EVERY book of the New Testament Epistle and Book but Philemon mentions false teachers - and against them. IF you read your Bible, you could never miss just how much God is against them in every way in His very Own Holy word. (Sorry for length, this is SERIOUS, concerning your very soul.)
You’re punking me right Chill out God speaks to His own whether you like it or not ... I know zero about Beth Moore outside of she shouldn’t be a pastor but I guess she’s just following Joyce and the rest of them My point is GOD SPOKE AND STILL SPEAKS ... Blasphemy your over reacting if you didn’t get the comment I’m NEVER GOING TO SAY WHAT GOD CAN SAY OR NOT AN TO WHOM so thank you for your lengthy concern 😳
@@TheMistysFavs God speaks first and foremost in and thru his word! That's why he says know me in and thru my word because my word is a sure thing. What ever the situation the answer, the truth can be found in the word of God. Whether people want to accept it or not that is a different thing altogether but it's still the truth. God does not change nor does his word. People change the word of God to support their interpretation of the word of God and their false teaching. They really can't change it, they just pervert it! People fall into error simply because they have little or next to no discernment in the Spirit and are not grounded in the word.
Great video! I’d love to be friends with Susan! She’s a sweet lady and I loved it when she talked about, how to respond to a husband if he didn’t want his wife to attend church! Thank you for your ministry Justin and thank you for having Susan on!😊Glory to God!
Thanks! Many decades ago, I did a couple of her Bible studies, and her animation, drama, and not blinking enough bothered me. She was too intense for me. Then, I made bad decisions, and left being an active church member, and Christian. I'm on the road to drawing closer to God, but not sure who to listen to, and that's how I found you to be someone to give me insight. This is my first video learning insight into Beth Moore, since I completely turned against her for speaking out against Trump. No, he wasn't my first choice, but he was the candidate, and we put in party not person. The Right needed to be in power, as I view it to be the side honoring the Christian God, more. And, after the bad decisions I made, I'd look really bad judging others' past. Thank God for His mercy and grace.
I stopped studying Beth Moore when I left the SBC. Women were taking her teaching as the Word! May the true Holy Spirit of God Almighty open her eyes to His truth and how women are to be under the umbrella of godly men.
Good for you sister! I was wondering if you could tell me a bit about the SBC. I had been under the impression that they fully agreed with beth moore, but as she has decided to leave it seems I was wrong. What is their position theologically if I may ask?
@@mercyp7151 I would recommend to you the UTube channel Founders Ministries. It is lead by Pastor Tom Ascol and Jared Longshore. They are both outstanding godly pastors in the SBC and have been warning their baptist denominations about not only Beth Moore but Critical Race Theory as well for several years. You will find lots of videos that are helpful. God bless you.
I have a couple friends that grew up Southern Baptist and they refuse to believe that BM is a bad teacher, they point to how she was a role model to them when they were growing up...I was raised catholic(evangelical now) so had no idea who she was when I was growing up. A small group in my church is reading one of her books now which is very concerning
Beth Moore has been priming her follows to defend her against her enemies for a couple of years now. She loves painting herself as a victim and calling out “scoffers” (her term). They feel they are defending the honor of their idol.
The 2nd comment here is from a scam artist who poses all the time on comment sections under the name of whoever is the person in the video. Anyone who has listened much to Justin Peters knows that he is totally unlikely to claim having a "word or vision from God." Lol 😆😆 This scammer has posted other comments on this section under other names as well.
My wife and I are enjoying this interview. We appreciate the constant reference to the inerrancy of Scripture and the proper roles of men and women the church. With that said, my Yorkie will not stop barking at the screen during this interview, a phenomenon that we have never observed in our five pound beast. 🙂
Thank you for this interview. This gives me pause with something I have been doing that I think I may need to pray about and change now - handing over the reins of teaching God’s Word to my son who is a new Christian (1 year) but is also 25 and has just married a wonderful godly woman and attends a great church. My spiritual headship with my children originally came about from necessity since I married someone who I thought was a Christian but who within a year of marriage fell away and is now an agnostic. My husband began teaching our kids the opposite of God’s Word, and even encouraged them to sin at times. I was the one that spiritually shepherded my children, but that was a very delicate thing to do since I wanted to honor my husband and prayed for his restoration. I wanted us to be united for our children. Eventually my husband abandoned us, and the result was our kids wanted nothing to do with God. But slowly and surely God allowed me to model Christ to them. Our church was moving away from the soundness of doctrine but COVID gave me the opportunity to introduce my kids to John MacArthur, Alistair Begg, Kevin deYoung, and RC Sproul. God used those teachers to instruct them and we would have spiritual conversations afterwards. Three years ago my daughter was saved, and one year ago my son was saved. He said the two people who have taught him the most about God’s Word has been me and his then-fiancé/now-wife. A few months ago he asked me how he can become the spiritual leader of his household. I told him to pray that God will guide him, and then read the Bible cover to cover with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, his pastor, and teachings by the pastors I mentioned above. But each time we talk I find myself teaching him and bringing scripture to bear in our conversations. He says he loves our conversations and learns a lot. But maybe it’s time for me to stop and let him instruct me. Any suggestions?
Excellent commentary. I have been to Beth Moore studies many years ago and I quit after 1st book study due to the fact it was based on feelings and fluff over substance and truth
I’m so excited to see an interview with Susan! What an inspiring precious sister in Christ! You know the phrase, “That’s who I want to be when I grow up.”? That’s how I feel about Susan, her effort to follow Christ & faithfully adhere to His word is extremely admirable! Thanks Justin, as always, great work!
I must add how grateful I am for these teachings because they helped me come away from egalitarianism & the many heresies I believed in. At one point I was an ordained minister & had no idea my actions were going against God’s ordained order. Thank Jesus for calling me to repentance so that I can do what is right in God’s eyes & not my own. I was raised in the hyper charismatic, NAR, blab it & grab it & babble blah blah blah false gospel. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t wake up rejoicing & praising God for bringing me out of error & into truth! I thank Him for sound teachers like you both, who faithfully exegete the scriptures & rightly divide the Word!
@@Baba_Wawa I can relate to your comments. I was in the WoF and NAR churches too. Although not a preacher, I was considered to be a prophet and thought that was my calling. I'm so thankful to finally be free of all the false teaching but my family members are still deeply involved and my aunt and (female) cousin are both ordained pastors/prophets. I pray that God opens their eyes to the truth and brings them to repentance.
@Emily Wheeler provide more specifics. What is so wrong with self reflecting & correcting what you see wrong about yourself (repenting of sin) ? That is the purpose driven life, which is to become more Christ-like through Christ who strengthens me.
@@jsf8145 Re: Rick Warren. Justin made a video "False Teachers Exposed" and in a clip Rick said in an interview " it is almost impossible to go to hell".
It just shows how the Salvation Army does not follow the teachings of the Bible. Women are not to teach men. How many times do you have to hear this before you accept it?
I have done so many of her Bible Studies unfortunately. Gladly our ladies ministry is moving away from all Bible Studies like hers. I praise God for women like Mrs. Heck. We just went verse by verse through Jude! It was awesome!!
Thank you Justin for posting this! Yahweh opened my eyes out of the charismatic movement prior to the start and eventual lockdown, that still persists here in Canada, with the coronavirus. I recently have become engaged and desire to know more of The Holy Scriptures. Thank you for introducing me to Mrs Heck. I have now subbed to her YT channel and look forward to becoming more learned in The Word. Blessings to you, your family and ministry🙏🏿
I’m sincerely asking...but is not Mrs Heck teaching Justin and a huge audience, men included, by conducting this video? He is actually asking her questions. The idea of just because she is not behind a pulpit on a Sunday does not hold hold up in scripture. This would invalidate Jesus’ “sermon” on the mount...outdoors....not in a synagogue. She can not have it both ways. It seems she can not acknowledge that some serious preaching has taken place in prisons, concentration camps, classrooms, impromptu moves of the Holy Spirit....by female followers of Christ. Maybe her argument holds up when speaking of close discipleship/authority but not teaching. And Neither should a man who is not related to a woman closely disciple her in most situations. Peter said “he” did not permit teaching. Peter also had to be corrected about circumcising of converts. We are losing our minds here. We allow women to teach impressionable youth but not grown men with way more discernment than children. I’m genuinely torn about this and saddened. I’m reading the same Bible as her but I see women quoted in lengthy passages, a queen mother giving instructions. I maybe get her point about not being in authority over a man but not the teaching. There is some major cognitive dissonance going on in this interview because TEACHING is what she is engaging in. She is teaching that women can’t teach 🤣
Thank you for this! It is so affirming! We just had a woman pastor temporarily take over our church and I have felt deeply convicted about this so we have pulled out of ministry for now. Thankful for God’s goodness and faithfulness to His people. He is more than able, amen!
So many ministries seem to be hyper-focused on correcting people like Beth Moore in every way except speaking directly with Beth Moore. We bring in third parties to provide weight to one side of an argument rather than working directly with a person to restore that person. This route seems to bring further division in an already divided church and distracts people from sharing the gospel.
@@Annie261. Regardless of how she responds, scripture is fairly clear on the issues of church discipline. Titus 3 comes to mind although, in this situation, I'm not sure which side is more guilty of stirring up controversy.
Exactly. I thought true Christ-followers are not only supposed to correct and teach, but also to love and share the Good News. The massive attention directed at other’s flaws doesn’t seem godly to me....
@@krhoden82 I think you are ignoring that God Hi myself divides the wheat from the tares. All believers should only desire and seek pure Truth. This is not an attack on people it is shedding light on darkness.
@@krhoden82 That scripture applies to Christians. Beth Moore is not a Christian, but a false prophet/heretic/wolf in sheeps clothing. We know that by her fruits. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain."
My old church had a woman’s Bible study with Beth Moore’s teachings. I was perplexed. They had devotions in Jesus Calling. Everyone loved these two teaching tools. I thought something was wrong with me because I didn’t. Our pastor came out of master seminary school? They liked Mark Driscoll? I warned people about him. How can I know these are wrong and leadership doesn’t? That’s the more baffling part to me. So glad you brought her up in discussion. Thank you so much.🤗
My church actually has a designated pastor for education and they routinely allow Bible studies by popular false teachers. I sent a message to him that I was troubled to see the church offering studies written by problematic teachers. I asked if the church had a vetting process in place to prevent false teachers from coming in or if study group leaders made those decisions on an individual basis. He basically said he was sorry I was disturbed and assured me they have a do have a process in place for how they choose studies. At that point I lost any confidence I had in that church because obviously Holy Spirit has no place there. I have said that Jesus Calling is nothing more than Satan drunk dialing a medium. So you’re not alone!!
@@touchofgrace3217, I to ask questions! I eventually leave the church. I’m trying to find a church I can tolerate and use my gifts. Mine is discernment and helps, so you can see where my problem is? Right now it’s a church that stays open not on zoom.
I am currently holding a bible study in my home right now with a few women going over her 5 teachings on being woman of the Word. Desiring, Delighting, Discerning, Diligent and Doing. The ladies appreciated that Susan didn’t try to use her life stories to create some emotional attachment in order to be relatable but just simply taught the word. The ladies loved it.
@@karenford4914 it is on You Tube. In the search type in Susan Heck Desiring the Word. There are 5 videos and on the first video she gives the order of the teachings. I think it is Desiring, Delighting, Discerning, Diligent and Doing. We meet every other week and we watch the video for the first hour then the second hour we discuss the video. Since I facilitate the meeting I listen ahead of time and right down parts I want to go back over and talk about for a bit. Then we pray!
I believe, dear Beth Moore, is a modern day example of “King Saul”-who was called and anointed by GOD but loses both through his own fleshly lusts. Beth Moore started out with a real compassion and heart for women in “The Church”-many who have husbands that demand obedience before being loved. Beth’s compassion was REAL and her ministry was originally effectual. However, as with so many “ministries” it slowly turned into a display of me, myself and I. She began to strut the stage, her hair clothes and nails seemed to be more important than the Holy Spirit anointing and content of the message-which slowly became “her” message…. Then came: “my books”, “my notebooks”, my website-my, my, my. The fancy lifestyle, that the average “Christian woman” would NEVER get to have or enjoy-classic prosperity living! The transition from a true, authentic ministry to one lead by ego was slow and subtle but transition it did-and, sweet Beth Moore has never been the same since. Our hearts should be grieved because of it!! Heaven knows she’s not the only one who stated out (to serve the Lord) so right and ended up so wrong. I pray this precious woman comes to soul wrenching clarity before it’s eternally too late. I can, in all humility say, “there but for the grace of GOD go I.”
This woman is spot on. Beth Moore is nothing more than an emotional out of context heretic women need to STAY AWAY from. I got sober at one of her conventions , and I held tight to her for years. UNTIL the Lord showed me it was his divine Providence , in his sovereignty that I be saved and cleaned, nothing to do with her heresy.
@@TheSacredlizzy , I know little about Beth Moore's teaching. Does the heresy lie in egalitarianism or something else? Is anything she teaching contradict the Christ's atonement or divinity? I am reluctant to label a person a heretic unless they are teaching something contrary to fundamental doctrine, e.g. Christ's divinity, blood atonement, death, burial and bodily resurrection,
Sadly I used to listen to Beth Moore Bible studies. I feel like my church and I were so mislead. Thank you both for your great and sound Bible teachings.
Justin I have to apologize for anytime I have come against you. I have always considered you to be a very humble honest God fearing true witness of the Gospel and I grew up in an extreme charismatic church like the ones that you all are exposing but I will have to say that I'm thankful that God did not let it stick because as an adult I went on a search for the truth of God because even as a 12-year-old I knew that something was wrong with that situation. Anyway thank you for introducing us to sue and thank you sue for participating in the interview. I am looking forward to reading your books. I have watched Beth Moore a handful of times in the past but she was not necessarily my cup of tea although I was not finding any real fault with her until now. I did not start reading Bible text for myself until a few years ago after God delivered me from a 30-year cigarette addiction and he did that in literally one night! Like, I went to sleep a cigarette smoker and woke up and have not had a cigarette in 6 years!!!! I know he does miracles I know he is our deliverer but I'm very thankful that I'm also learning how to walk with him in obedience to his written word!
@@JustinPetersMin Thank you Sir. I greatly enjoy your sermons and I pray that God will open more doors for people who have had conversion experiences to share their testimonies as I'm sure those are powerful testimonies. I am still very grateful that God rescued me from a carnal false conversion. There's nothing like knowing the presence of God when you are truly submitted to his authority and all you can do is be thankful for his Mercy. I appreciate your ministry as well as John MacArthur, Phil Johnson, Todd Friel, etc. It's my opinion that God is raising up a generation of people who actually are in alignment with the end of the book that says, THOSE WHO HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
@@JustinPetersMin GOD BLESS YOU, YOUR WIFE AND YOUR MINISTRY SIR. I'M SURE THERE ARE A GREAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT GOD HAS GRACED YOU TO DO FOR HIS KINGDOM.
I have had my reservations about BM!!! When she just ever so slightly twists the scriptures to fit a popular agenda...we must be so discerning in these times.
Do you think this is a Jezebel Spirit? I’ve noticed that these churches that watch her DVD’s instead of getting in The Word, seem to have a culture of gossip.
This is amazing. So full of Biblical Truth. Thank you. It seems we, as Christians are being shown clearly the deception of these last days...God bless you both❤
I agree with the lady that said we should not rip Christian’s apart but rather do as the Bible says and go to them personally and then take fellow Christians with you to confront their error. etc. This lady needs to put to use her memorized scriptures and follow what God tells us to do in this situation.
Yes. When she said that she does not even know her but is using this platform to incriminate her, I believe this makes us no different from the unbelievers who have no map to live. Matthew 18
If Beth Moore's errors were made in private, then a private conversation would be in order. She has made herself a public figure, however, and her false teaching is made in public therefore to address the issue in public is not only appropriate it is mandatory according to a variety of Scriptures commanding God's followers to warn people about false teachers. It is not loving to see someone blindly walking to the edge of a cliff and refuse to warn them of the dangers ahead.
Thank you so much for reminding us that women should never preach from the pulpit. Several weeks ago, there was a woman that gave the message. At the end of this message, I could not understand why I was uneasy about this. Now I know. I have now thought about going back to the pastor and asking him as to why she was allowed to bring this message to the congregation.
So much important information here. Thank you for this video. Another person that concerns me is Sarah Young, author of Jesus Calling devotionals. Even before knowing The Bible (which I am still reading through for the first time), I was feeling something “off” about her devotional as I began reading it. I was wondering who or WHAT was really speaking to her?? So concerning for all who follow her.
Longfortruth UA-cam channel did an extensive video on Sarah Young’s Jesus calling books. You are right her devotional is not biblical, more so new-age wrapped in false Christianity.
Amen. Anyone whose a True Bible believing READING Christian would be able to discern the Truth and to know she is a wolf. Thank u for this Justin Peters 🙏🏼✝️
True but new believers don’t often see it right away. I used to do her studies at church many years ago but as I grew in His Word and got to know Him then He led me away from her. God bless you
@@JesusIsComing1111 Well I used to listen to Joyce Meyers lol but I was told to listen to her from someone who was “born again” for 20 years and also I wasn’t reading my Bible. But I knew something was off because everything she preached was peaches and cream lol and I knew that was wrong, I always heard when u fully submit and give her life to Christ was when life gets harder , the attacks start and persecution ETC, so I started praying on it and God showed me that she was a false teacher and I started finally reading my Bible that was collecting dust for 6 months when I thought I gave my life to Christ but apparently I didn’t fully, but after that I can finally say I am saved 6 1/2 years now and wouldn’t go back for anything nor anyone and can’t get enough of my Bible lol. Have a blessed night
@@jennamarielovesjesus12 This ~> "I started finally reading my Bible that was collecting dust for 6 months" is absolutely the problem, as you learned, praise God!! Too many women (AND men) depend on others far too much for information about preachers or on pre-made Bible Study books and depend less on the reading of the truth of God's own word with the leading of the Holy Ghost too little. We have all been there at one point, I know! Stay in His word, and love and discernment will certainly keep growing! God bless you, sister!
@@TheMistysFavs Amen. Yessss the Holy Spirit leads and guide us into all truth, we can learn from others obviously like Justin Peters and Susan but our main teacher is God and His Word. If we search for Truth, He will Never withhold it from us. Blessings lovely
@@JesusIsComing1111 I was a brand new Believer and the church where I attended had a women's ministry that constantly held Beth Moore Bible studies. It took years for me to fully recognize that Beth Moore was not a sound teacher, and only after I attended many of her studies and conferences. I can't say my spirit wasn't troubled at some of the things she said and did after a few of her studies, but many women I considered more mature in the Lord trusted her and she was approved by the Pastor.
Isn't this amazing that only today I googled how to memorise scripture and Beth's name came up and I thought this was the lady Justin mentioned a while back that from memory can memorise 34 books of the Bible and I have just started my practise today. I'm just not too sure where to start but God never ceases to amaze me by keeping me safe as I might off started taking her advise. Hope this makes sense. Thanks to you both from East London UK.
Wow what a great treat to spot this on my UA-cam Feed. I am learning so much listening to people such as Justin and Susan. Thank you. I am in the process of 'de-programming' from the Word of Faith/Charismatic Church. Thank you!
Why aren't you giving specific examples? I hear a lot of I'm very concerned which in the church I grew up in was code for let's talk about somebody badly. I'm not particularly a fan but I'm not not a fan. What's wrong with being outspoken about political issues? What's wrong with women preaching in the pulpit? This whole channel just sounds a whole lot about Christians talking about other Christians and trashing them and I came from that kind of church and I want no part of it so I won't be subscribing
Wow! Incredible! I just learned about Susan Heck on this day through Doreen Virtru. So I listened to Susan's women's Bible study about contentment. Very convicting and encouraging .
Luckily my husband, who was always a believer but not interested in reading the Bible or going to church, was flexible with me and understood how important it was to me to go to church and spend time in prayer and the Word. Over a few months of continued prayer for his salvation, he is now a dedicated church-goer with me and we read the Bible together nightly :)
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May God bless you and your family!
Praise God! ❤️ I’m going through the same thing with my husband currently. I hope and pray for a similar outcome as yours!
A barnburner of an interview. Susan Heck is an encouragement for anyone wanting to memorize Scripture. The entire New Testament? That is outstanding. May the LORD bless you both!
That's just awesome
I am very impressed by that even though I’m skeptical of other things
And didn’t James Robison introduce her to the body of Christ on his show??? Just asking.
Thank you for interviewing this sister! I am encouraged to listen to her teachings. We women have far too few mature women teachers & I have honestly been asking the Lord for a mentor that is under biblical leadership.🥰
As a single woman, it's nice to know I can listen to someone who is truly of God. Thank you Susan.
Shame shame on you!!! Oh I brill follow her. Love love love her!!!
Shame on Who?
Study the Bible and not Moore’s books. Then you’ll understand what this is all
about.
Amen 💯🎯@@elizabethrehrig3300
@@monabruce-yg7ol Your statement shows the problem. I do NOT follow her or anyone else. As much as lies in me, I follow the word. Even the best of pastors or teachers can err in their teaching. That's why we need to always see if what they say matches the word.
Justin, thank you for bringing this woman to the forefront. I have never heard of her before. I have started watching her UA-cam Bible studies and they are absolutely life-changing. Thank you so much for shining a light on this woman of God.
i thank God for Susan Heck; during the early days of the COVID-19 shutdown, God used her to show me by the word that i was at the wrong church. Excellent Bible teacher, i have learned so much from her!
Hope ms Heck teaches about Gods word regarding judgement of others. If you don’t know her you shouldn’t ask a question like is she drinking is that why she isn’t teaching the word rightly
I think people wonder why she would.walk up to a stranger, a man, in the airport and ask to brush his hair...That seems a LITTLE weird to me ... .😮 . ..........@@clayhill8911
Also, Beth Moore said that JESUS asked her to go outside and to build snowmen with Him... Excuse me, but doesn't this seem a little bit strange😮
@@clayhill8911Bible says that we Christians are to judge other proclaimed Christians, but we are not to judge sinners. Sinners are God's job.
@@caroleimani9754it seems made up
I started Beth's bible studies back in 2003. I had never studied or memorized scripture like I did with her. That being said, I stopped following her several years ago when she seemed to be more interested in being politically correct than biblically correct. I'll always be grateful for the love of Scripture that was instilled in me, and I do pray that she is okay.
I heard her say she has reached perfection she has arrived sinless that is so false
@@lourusk7631 that is a sad statement to make
@@lourusk7631 You heard her say. Do you have any source that you can cite that backs up your statement? Do you have two or three witnesses that can back up your statement? If not, I would not be repeating this. -pastor
@@lourusk7631 I believe that is Joyce Meyer. Beth Moore always acknowledges that she is a sinner in need of God’s grace.
@@lourusk7631 Careful - please don't type this sort of thing about anyone.
Wow! I just discovered Susan a little while ago. Going to begin studying her teachings. That's amazing that you know them personally! Mrs.Heck is the first Biblically sound women's Bible teacher I have found my entire life. Praise God that many women have been taught the truth.
Susan's teachings are great!
Don't forget Kay Arthur!
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Oh please
@@kelly4670 ???
So glad to hear this. I was a BM fan for years. Now, thanks to God, I see her for what she is. I’m sticking to studying scripture for myself allowing God to speak to me.
Amen Nancy. Know scripture, and we'll know who to listen to, and who to dismiss.
Paul told us to him as he followed Christ, that should hold true of ALL who are in any type of ministry, this one included. If we keep our eyes on Jesus and not another person, we will not be disappointed. Humans always disappoint, not the intention I'm sure, but we are fallible in a fallen world. Sticking to scripture shows maturity, our relationship with Jesus, our Father and the Holy Spirit is THE most important thing.
@@sheilasmith7779 I even bought her Bible Studies and they weren’t cheap, but this was before she changed. She doesn’t resemble the Beth Moore I thought I knew. Now I have all these studies and I am stuck with them. I don’t want to sell them as I don’t want to lead women astray. Thankyou Susan for just affirming what I knew after there were men in her audience when she was on James Robinson. I was upset and stopped watching her. She always said her husband was off stage and he was was always her covering. Now I know he doesn’t have any interest in her so called ministry. This was in the late nineties and early 2000’s.
@@Anne-ry1dt I had been taking a Precepts class, which is excellent because it dives deep into scripture, and also because it has a format that the instructor must follow. We had studied some of John, and a section of Matthew.
We received notices by email of new classes that we could sign up for, and we're informed of the fee(small)
I receive the email from the instructor of a new class, and Beth Moores study material and Bible study guide would be used.
I wrote to the instructor that some of B.Moore's teaching is false,( she denies complimentarian teaching) AND, only the Precepts format is to be used for Precepts classes.
Her answer to me was that she liked Beth Moore and saw nothing objectionable in any of her teaching.
Sadly, that was the end of my Precepts classes, although I still look for others that are Precepts instructors.
Precepts courses are excellent but this woman instructor was quite,
" woke," and unwilling to consider whether Beth's teachings are unbiblical.
If we know scripture fairly well we will recognize false teachers.....and must walk away no matter how much we enjoy them.
Bestway
Thank you Susan. First time hearing you. I'm so glad you stick up for the truth of the Bible. All of it. Thank you Justin for having her. I've just started watching you as well.
Only just discovered Susan I had all but given up on finding biblical ladies studies. So was so excited and have started looking for her books.
A few years ago I was with a group of women and they were all talking about the Christian “self help and discipleship” books they were reading. I asked questions and to my surprise most have not read their Bible in ages. I put out a challenge to them to only read the Bible for 6 weeks. It was surprising how some really struggled and realised how addicted they were to these teachings and “teachers”.
Yes, you are right....the enthusiasm these false teachers are peddling, is addictive to the ego! They talked about themselves more than Christ and Him crucified for our sins.
Beth Moore "uses" the word of God, instead of teaching properly the word of God. Her rise to popularity 15 yrs ago, raised red flags to me, so I listen to her some......then I got more red flags. Honestly, her mannerisms are hard to overcome, in order to get to the point of her speeches. Which, actually is mostly about herself and experiences. Needless to say, I wasn't encouraged thru her repertoire, about her life. Nor, was my faith increased or my joy in the Lord. I think we will be seeing her even go more radical and liberal; totally away from biblical standards for how to live Christian lives. She has already renounced her previous stand on certain sexual sins, which she has made very public. She deserves a stern public rebuke!
yes it's that way with a lot of men to. So true and so pathetic. Keep standing firm in the faith dear sister
Good call! We are always to go to the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD -- FIRST!! :)
Looks like I'm taking another lunch break to watch this. Much needed, Justin, and thank you sir. Appreciate your ministry, Heck family!
Ha - thank you, Will! Blessings to you and your family :)
I'm on my lunch break listening too! Susan Heck is great as is justin peters!
Amen 🙏🏼
I agree with you Will! Watched the whole interview this morning and it was really eye-opening for me coming from a charismatic church. Heading to a church that preaches the word in detail and in great conviction. This was an excellent interview with Justin Peters and Susan Heck. I’m definitely going to share this with my wife as she believes in complementary teaching. Susan will be a great asset to her walk with Christ. God bless you and I also will seriously think about getting those two books that they promoted. I feel it is something that will help ground me better in the word and in truth.
Thank you for introducing me to Susan. I can’t wait to dig in to her work and ministry.
@Justin Peters 🤮🤮🤮
@A W ....looks like that person is a fan of Beth Moore. 😰 Silly emoji of someone one throwing up. Kinda childish. ☺
Honestly I think Beth Moore’s real issues began when her daughter graduated either from Princeton or Yale seminary and came home and began teaching her I remember seeing that in a video she did and she exclaimed how her daughter was enlightening her, and then there after she had her daughter checking all of her theology, so I think she’s been enlightened by the secular seminary elite schools
Yes! You’re absolutely right! I have taught several of these studies, in times past, and I’ve had to correct her teaching, Hebrew AND her daughter’s, MANY a times!
Knowing what we now know about Ivy League Universities, I doubt very seriously that Beth Moore's daughter qualified for entry into any university with rigorous scholastic standards. Entry into and degrees from these universities are purchased and not earned.
@@paulascott5701 that is a serious accusation you are making
@@nancydoubleday2716 It isn't my fault that these universities have destroyed their own reputations by accepting unqualified students for reasons other than qualifications. I am 100% innocent of that and they are 100% guilty. Therefore, every person with a degree from one of these Ivey League universities falls under suspicion because the dishonest actions of the universities, not me. When the graduate in question exhibits behavior and opinions that are contrary to the subject studied, that suspicion increases. It does so by logic, not bias. I am sorry that Beth Moore's daughter has a degree form a dodgy university. I isn't my fault. Beth Moore teaches a false Christianity. I hope she turns away from it.
She (Beths daughter) attended Columbia Theological Seminary. They’re both heretics. They need prayer.
This was very interesting to come across. A friend had wanted me to do a Beth Moore Bible study, but honestly, my spirit just did not witness to me that she was ok. I never stuck around for the particulars of why the Holy Spirit was steering me away, but now I certainly see why. Thank you, God, for your witness to me. . .
Narnia Girl. When I first got saved in 1975 I found the perfect church. The Beth Moore Bible studies were popular for the ladies of my church. I can't remember why I didn't go. I do remember I had a strange feeling about it. Now I realize that was the Holy Spirit telling me not to go. Thanks be to Jesus! 😇
Narnia girl: Just received an email for a "Precept," class, using a Beth Moore study guide.
What the heck happened to Precepts teaching?
@@Judyp77 Absolutely Judy!
Seek truth above all and the Holy Spirit will enlighten and guide us.
Dont follow people that dont follow scripture, men or women.
Exactly, my sister & I are in agreement
2Timothy 4:3 "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions". Thank you both for your commitment to the truth and sharing God's word. I pray you continue to share these videos and be greatly blessed by God!
I love the gentleness and love, with which this interview was conducted. I enjoyed this immensely. God bless you both. I will be exploring all of the resources that are provided in the description box.
Thank you so much, Julia - blessings to you and your family :)
Lol.
@@atestring1379 why do you consider them heretics? Their conversation does not conform to the definition of a heretic.
@@MontanaLaura For Protestants they sound very Catholic???
I live near Houston and was enthralled by Beth Moore in the early 2000s. My sister-in-law and I at the time would drive to her Women's Bible study at First Baptist Church which held 1000 people. I was a new Christian and it seemed like she made the Bible become alive for me. I did not know what I did not know at the time. All of it was so wrong but I wouldn't understand until just a few years ago. All that time I thought I was saved but I was not. I stopped listening to her and fell away for years but I remembered that time fondly and thought I was closer to God and would buy books occasionally by her and read them but felt nothing. Eventually I felt spiritually bankrupt. I questioned if God was even real. I stumbled across John MacArthur on UA-cam and quickly absorbed his sermons like a sponge. I could not get enough. And then there was Paul Washer and then there was you Justin. I finally found true repentance and faith that came from Grace that resulted in a regenerate heart. I learned about complementarianism the right way the real definition! I'm in tears right now. I know I'm stupid. If only I'd known while I was still married. I'm chronically ill so I get my sermons mostly online. Thank you for having this special lady today. I will go find her right away and follow. I need this so badly in my life! I'm actually trying to teach my 16 year old son to memorize scripture!( he takes his John MacArthur Study Bible to school and reads it to some of his friends🤯🤫❤) I want to be like you ma'am♡memorizing scripture. I take alot of meds sometimes I can't get my own thoughts out🥺 sorry for the overshare.
Thank you Justin
From one Slave to two for and in Christ
Amen
Ohhh my precious sister in Christ
I ask you Lord to heal JeanMa’s body and mind... touch her Lord by your Holy Spirit. I ask in Jesus Glorious holy name amen
Your words brought tears to my eyes, especially about how your son is reading his Bible in school. Glory you God. It’s beautiful to hear that despite what you e been through The Lord has used you and has shown His grace to your family. God bless you siater
You read the word, pray, stay in the faith and do not lose heart
I have never heard anything like this before. It seems like gossip, judgement and condemnation. I don't know this person but it seems like the word tells you to go to her. Not to gossip about her. It sounds like you are prideful and hold yourself up. We are not to follow anyone. We are supposed to be humble and kind. I wish you the best but calling people names seems to go against God.
Be careful! John MacArthur said on video years ago that even if one takes the mark of the beast, one may still go to Heaven. Scripture plainly states that anyone who takes the mark of the beast WILL not be forgiven. Be careful.
While I see Beth Moore leaving the plumb line of scripture as of lately, calling her narcissistic, and dramatic her teaching disgusting and actually saying she is going to hell.... you can't say you aren't condemning while you condemn her. And your pride of not teaching men and being on you tube teaching men causes me to have caution with Susan Heck! Because you say one thing and do another. I am a biblical counselor . I know the truth but the truth without love is deceptive! I think you could caution women about Beth Moore without your condemnation! I use to listen to Beth Moore and she taught the gospel and repentance back then. As I have concerns where Beth Moore is taking her teaching today this is condemnation goes beyond scripture!! I do not see any humility in Susan's teaching on this you tube. For someone who prides herself in the WORD she doesn't reflect God's mercy, grace and love! I would love to see Christians in love correct and not condemn! You have lost my support.
Can't watch the whole thing.
But two questions:
Have either of you (in the video) ever spoken to Beth about any of this? I THINK the Bible tells us to go to her FIRST.
I'm looking for where it says to publicly criticize her in front of the whole world, without speaking with her personally, first.
To the man hosting this video, so you EVER speak to the person personally first, that you're complaining about?
I don't know much about Beth Moore at all.
But the tone of this interview is hateful towards a sister in Christ, whether you agree with her theology or not.
Matthew 12:25 says any kingdom divided against itself will fall.
We want to build God's kingdom, don't we?
Correct? Yes. Humiliate and condemn? No.
There's scripture that tells us to touch not God's anointed.
Ephesians 6:12 tells us that we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, yet it sounds like you're choosing to wage war against a woman who is flesh and blood.
War in the heavenlies, not on the airwaves.
The body of Christ needs to unite, not condemn each other.
After your recommendation Justin I have started listening to Susan’s bible studies on her channel, and I have learnt so much so thank you.💕
@Justin Peters Go away, scammer!
@@judylloyd7901 why would someone do this'? I guess it makes him feel important.😔
Yes I saw Beth Moore back in 1997 in Germany when my husband was stationed there. She was more in line with scripture back then. I informed my Womens ministry director years ago about her teachings and how they are not biblical but they have continued to do them. We have left this church and now attending a bible teaching expository church.
Glad you left!
I attend a Presbyterian conservative church and I don't hear "repent" very often either, its not just Beth Moore who lacks. It absolutely should be spoken of much much more than it is.
Thats because ALLof these "churches" are Babylon. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride are not heard in them. We were warned of these things throughout scripture. These places are harlot houses of great confusion, Babylon means confusion. Its just like the tower of Babel. This system is also referred to as spiritual sodom and Egypt. Satan's ministers disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness, just like the scriptures say. These places are synagogues of Satan where lies are taught. Thousands of denominations claiming to be Bible believing churches but are divided against each other. Thats because the whole thing is completely carnal. Either we have heard the voice of the Son of God and come out from among them or we are under strong delusion in Babylon. Only the Good Shepherd has good and sound doctrine. People attending these places have given heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. Sounds harsh but absolute truth. Come out of her my people.
My daddy attends a Presbyterian church... led by a woman. I have told him to leave. Many Presbyterian churches are not preaching sound doctrine.
Most in Ministry.....that Talk more about themselves than Repentance..or Helping others...its So Easy to Discern what & Who they Serve..& what you are to do...Turn them OFF
Repent? My studies have shown me it means "To change ones mind". Check the Greek. Changing 1's mind is the beginning of changing 1's behavior. You won't change how you act until you change how you think & what you believe. Some are unwilling to even consider changing their mind. To reevaluate. Be leary of those who think they cant be wrong.
I do not believe it needs to be spoken more than once it needs to be practiced more. The Church is a group of believers, we already know we need to repent, and if you are reading the Bible as you should, it will remind you, and your heart should convict you.
Thank you so much for talking about this! I always felt guilty because I just didn’t get the Beth Moore Bible study! I took a class at my church following one of her study guides and videos. It was so confusing to me- she talked a lot , but never said anything that was deep into the Word!
A lot like Christine Cane.
Justin I am so surprised at some of the “mean girls” commenting on this interview. Hostility usually covers ignorance. You’re a brave man
There is nothing hostile to what I said.. just warning you not to touch God‘s anointed regardless of what they’ve done and who they are David refused to touch even the clothing of King Saul what I’m bringing is not hostility just correction my brother and that’s called love.
He is not brave. Just as wrong to not go to Beth Moore as scopture says to talk to her face to face.
@@brendaburton392 Moore has been approached privately yet continues her false teaching, and since her teaching is public then it is entirely appropriate to address the issue publicly. Indeed, God commands His people to address false teachers publicly so that other people will not be led astray.
Interesting that you use David's private attitude toward Saul to prove this interview is in error. Privately, David would not kill Saul because he knew life and death was in God's hand. Publicly, however, David loudly opposed Saul in the hearing of all of Saul's army, and it momentarily caused Saul to repent. That whole "not touch the Lord's 'anointed'" argument is taking 1 Samuel 24 way out of context.
I remember years ago when Beth Moore was starting to gain popularity all the ladies in the church I was attending were going gah gah over her and going to her events. I was not impressed with her teaching and found her to be kind of wacky. I never understood why people were drawn to her.
Wacky is right & I’ll add wild-eyed! She is also, IMO, loud & look-at-me exhausting.
She is a false teacher, wolf 🐺 in sheep's clothing🐑.. she is off the right path, and she is exhausting to listen to, she is quite manic. I stopped going to her Bible study a few years ago, most of it is all about her. Many women at the Church I attend are obsessed with her, it's sad. We must be discerning, and continue to pray for discernment.
Beth Moore’s audience is comprised of professing Christians who are bored out of their mind and want their ears tickled by false teachers.
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There are a lot of different fish in the world…God didnt make us all alike. Beth Moore has a large following because people can relate to her, God set her up to attract fish that other teachers do not attract. Picking people apart like that is unGodly. If you have anything to say about her, make it about scriptural err.
Yes, exactly.....many women aren’t not thinking critically. When I bring up the same issues about Beth Moore, my friends get mad. They love entertainment more than truth.
I do agree that there are many church services that are more like entertainment than ministry. That's not to say we can't have a good time in church, but anything can be taken to an extreme. In both directions.
Yep along with the church, music and stories over scripture
So sad that they get mad. Keep putting truth into them by living it in front of them. Stay in the Word of God… the Bible .
Always a voice of reason and upholding biblical truths in a loving way.
I feel dirty for having watched this podcast. Listening to one woman castigate and discredit another... especially a woman who has dedicated her life to WOMEN'S ministry, to the degree that Peck does is unchristian. It should pain her to judge a sister in Christ publicly like this, but clearly it does not. The only one who is behaving UN-Christ-like is HER. If you are a Christian , you probably sense this. Something about the way this woman is speaking about Beth feels wrong. That is the Holy Spirit , people. It IS wrong. You know it in your spirit that this is Not how Scripture tells us to deal with other believers. This woman reports that she knows her Scripture but she does not know the HEART of Christ. Run from her!!
I just finished Susan Heck’s talk about the book of John 1. She explains everything about the scripture, in a wonderful way that I can understand. Speaks only the truth of The Holy Bible . Thank you so much , Mrs. Heck .
Was never drawn to Beth Moore. So glad I had enough foundation in scripture. Been a true believer since age 14.
Me neither!
Me too! Thank God for his Holy Spirit inside me to lead & guide & discern .
Great interview!!! Thank you for the book recommendation on The Excellent Wife...
My husband is not a believer so this will help. Please pray for my husband, Nick and also pray for an older woman to lead me. I have gleaned much from your ministry and look forward to checking out Susan’s ministry. May the Lord bless you and yours and continue to sustain you by His grace 🙏🏼
I squealed when I saw this video on my feed 😆. Two of my favourites! I’ve learned so much from both of your ministries ❤️
Haha I did too! Especially since I JUST shared her ministry a few dayz ago on instagram encouraging ladies to learn the truth of the Word from her.
Lol me too!!
I very much enjoy listening to Susan Heck and really pray for a woman like her to disciple me. I’m a single women (single mother) desiring to grow deeper in my walk with the Lord and knowledge of the word of God. Thanks for this interview.
Thank you so much for your kind words, Nat. Susan may be reached through her website linked in the description. Blessings to you! :)
Read and study Scripture. Pray.
Memorizing scripture. Key
I have just run into this today. I have been in women’s ministry for 23 years and a teacher for close to 40 years. I agree with Susan Heck wholeheartedly. It’s very sad how many don’t know scripture and are led by what they are hearing. From the first time, I ever listen to Beth my spirit was quicken when that happens we are to heed. My heart grieves as well on how many ladies are misled and what to make the scripture say what they want it to say. May we be fervent in prayer and faithful to His word. Thank you for this pod cast. May you be blessed and may His face shine upon you.
Years ago I went to a Beth Moore study at my friends ladies group. It was about David. I bought a couple of her books but never read them and I loved to read. I never understood why except for some reason I just didn't want too. I never watched another study. My friend was enthralled with her ( she also liked Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer). I now know why I did not read her books. For a long time I felt like something was wrong with me but I know now there was not. Thank you for this. I really appreciate it.
I felt that way on a lot of books and Bible groups I was in. Even women conferences and event Im invited to, I love to read, and purchased books recommended to me, but for some reason couldn’t come around to studying books by these women Joyce M, Beth Moore books Christina Cain, Pricilla Shriner and list goes on...Something did not seem right. I really believe it’s God protection his children.
I got her audacious book from my pastor and his wife never could read it so I gave it to the Salvation Army; I wish I threw it away!!!!
Funny how Beth Moore always brings herself to the forefront at the beginning of every...whatever she does. She began to drive me crazy with her hair stories being the prelude for so many of her lessons. She was just too much of a glory hound. I’m so glad I quit her years ago and threw away all of the study workbooks.
Yes, and she is so amped up and over the top behaviorally as if she's on some drug.
@Justin Peters Oh,go away, imposter.
Good for you. You did the right thing.
Me too.
So did this woman in this video. And the host. They went on about what a "great Christian" Susan Heck is, why she even has the NT memorized. She has a lot of credential I certainly don't have. All I have is the blood of Jesus shed for me.
I’m so glad this was recommended to me. I haven’t heard of Susan Heck. It’s refreshing to hear her speak the truth about Beth Moore! Thank you!!
@Justin Peters Again!!? 🤮
@Justin Peters SPAM ALERT!!
I start with, I have not done a Beth Moore bible study since 2004. I have no authority to speak on current day Beth Moore.
I am in shock with this video. God used Believing God by Beth Moore to put me in right relationship after I walked in a sin for a year. I had been a strong Christian and through self pity allowed sin a too comfortable place in my life for a season.
Through meditating on faith Scriptures, God healed my mind and my behavior and brought me to repentance.
No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind can conceive what God has prepared in advance for those who believe, I AM BELIEVING GOD.
Through learning to meditate on Scripture....for 4 months on a verse that started as a meer mantra, God restored and increased my dead love to a vibrant love for my husband.
When people say, I don't want to be ugly but, ....I cringe. I think the next words probably SHOULD NOT be said.
I married a man who did not seek Scripture. Beth taught me t hat my relationship with God was still vital regardless of his. What are you saying? Do not apply I Cor 7. Of course, the man is to be the leader. I am appalled listening to this. Are you saying We are to leave weak spiritual men or do we not live a life of love and holiness before our men as well as others....and trust the Holy Spirit to do His job!
I hope that I have missed the last 15 years of Beth Moore. I hope what you are saying is true. Not for Beth's sake but for yours. But as I awake this morning to this podcast I feel anger, I feel judged as a Christian counselor who could have done better or wiser had my husband been a pastor or podcast Christian man. No thank you, I want to encourage listeners that God has a plan for our lives and He uses the humble INSPITE OF OURSELVES. He speaks through donkeys. Rahab the harlot is in His genealogy; Ruth slept at a man's feet and honored her mother in law and her God; my goodness about Tamar who tricked her drunken father in law to impregnate her. I know she would be talked about!!!.....and sisters, remember the expression The Lion of Judah?? Well that was JUDAH doing the drunken impregnating!
And a man after God's own heart had sex with Bathsheba and killed her husband. Bathsheba made the line up in Jesus ' geneology!! There is HOPE for us. He takes what we have, as broken and spilled out as it may be, and he can feed 5000 through us.
Be encouraged those of you who are sinners. Those of you who have not memorized books of the Bible. Those of you who are are coming out of sexual abuse, broken marriages, breakers of marriage, apathetic listeners. God has a plan for your life. The Being Perfect Job has already been taken and fulfilled. And we killed Him on a cross and HE ROSE NEVER TO DIE AGAIN. It is through Him, Jesus our One and Only, that we have been chosen and He gives broken women a high honor in His lineage!
If you have never understood how the OT works or how it can be so different from NT, I encourage you to get A Woman's Heart, God's Holy Tabernacle. Beth explained the festivals and showed how many had been completed in NT. We eagerly await the fulfillment of the latter 3, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles.
To hear the sound of a shofar has beautiful meaning and I eagerly await it's future calling.
After reading this Bible study, my list of Scriptures prophesied in OT and fulfilled in NT has grown immensely. How can one NOT believe.
Give your talents to the Lord and allow Him to use them. Whether you give an upper room for a traveling minister or for the Last Supper, or a puffed hairstyle from the 1980s from a woman who delighted that charismatic personality in the lord. He will take the equivalence of a Happy meal and feed 5000.
Will you be scrutinized? Obviously. Will you be attacked by people on the same side of the shield of faith? Apparently.
Read psalm 55 if that is your truth, too. Amazing what a man after God s own heart cried out to God in his anguish of suffering while being scrutinized by someone he believed to have been safe. Just horrible.but the mental redemption ( psychologicalqqq sort of word) came by focusing on the attributes of God at the the end of Ps 55.
Beth Moore maybe scrutinized by these two.but when I walk through the gates after I scream....I WANT TO SEE JESUS.... I will get around to singing thank you for giving to the lord. I was a life that was changed. And I will give Beth Moore a nod and a wink.
Thank you for your testimony dj. What they're saying about Beth Moore is not true except that she no longer believes the complementarian teaching which gives all authority to men in the church. As for context when interpreting Scripture , these two are entirely ignoring cultural context ... . How much of a role in society did women have back in OT and NT times? How many could read?
You should not be shocked. That is how religious devils operate. Someone always ALWAYS has to lose. Comparison, condemnation - notice all general, nothing specific. Judging people she knows nothing about about. So much wrong with what is said in this video. But just one - the dean of my Bible college traveled to Israel. Their tour guide, a Jewish non-believer, also had the entire New Testament memorized yet was not a Jesus follower. So . . . 1John 4:1
Is this commentary on Beth Moore really necessary? I like many others scratched my head about some of her tweets but devoting all this time and effort in speculation about her character, motives etc makes me uncomfortable. I have done a few of her Bible studies and I never saw anything unscriptural in them.
Beth is leading women astray, she is becoming more and more secular and outspoken on issues. This video is a warning to all the vulnerable, gullible women to not follow blindly and put on a pedestal the false teachers and preachers which abound,especially now in the last days.
She is defying Biblical teachings and her Biblical authority. Regardless of what she says, she is out of step with God and what He has said in the Bible.
I am so glad to see this. I actually lived in a small town in Utah where there was only one Christian church and their “ladies Bible Study “ was nothing but Beth Moore DVD’s and books. I had to quit going and I told them if they ever wanted to do a study where we open our Bible’s and study Gods Word, to please let me know. I had a friend in Salt Lake City and the same thing was happening in her church! So I started the “Beth Moore , no more!” Movement. We even had our own small retreat when a Beth More event came to Salt Lake City.
“Beth Moore, no more” that’s good. Luckily I don’t know many women who want to watch Beth.
I attend a church in Australia, and Beth Moore was very popular. I did a few of her studies years ago, and felt in my spirit she wasn't on the right path. She became more manic and things she said weren't biblical. She is very self serving and vain. I started to say I needed "less of Moore" .. the Bible study leaders weren't interested as they had her up on a pedestal. Thankfully these leaders have left the church and no more of Moore!!!
@@margaretboehm4485 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you for following Holy Spirit, Yeshua is building His church and no witchcraft is allowed in His redeemed,
I wish I could share the whole interview on social media. People need to know about Beth Moore. I am still learning how and why she is so dangerous myself. Thank you brother Justin and sister Susan!!!!
@Justin Peters please stop using people's names and photos to create fake accounts.
@Justin Peters 🤮🤮🤮
Watching this at 7am in China ☺️Two of my favorite people! ❤️✝️ This was very helpful wow! God bless you! And I'm very impressed by Susan's commitment to memorize the bible, so encouraging! I tried her method and it didn't work very well 😆 maybe I'm not as diligent as I need to be (my brain probably works differently and I need songs to help me memorize). Lord help me 😭
I can recommend Jason Silver, The Bible Song Word for word ministry and Esther Mui (channel is called- Christian Worahip & Scripture Song) on UA-cam. They've helped me to nail down Scripture memory by putting the Scriptures to music. I need a mix of song, reading and loudly reciting from the Word and writing it down, over and over, to commit anything to memory. I think you should find a method that works for you and stick with it 💪👍 you can do it by the power and help of the Holy Spirit! 😁💪
“It might give a warm fuzzy up your spine, but it doesn’t last”. That wraps the whole Beth Moore thing up right there.
Speak against a teaching but not a teacher.
@@johnnyharry467 she’s a false teacher.
@@sdh4557 Could you tell me why you think that.
@@johnnyharry467 not what the Bible says.
I caught Beth on TV a month or so ago.I am 70 and was shocked at her dress, her acting and did not understand a word of what she was pushing..It was like watching a bad actor..That did not settle well with my spirit..You are the first to confirm my feelings..Thank you..
Speak against a teaching but not a teacher.
@@johnnyharry467 Your seeming command at an older woman comes across as disresptful. Would you be willing to present Scripture, which supports your comment? And consider taking the time to explain yourself humbly? May Christ be honored.
I’ve seen a lot of people speak against Beth Moore but it’s not my place to judge her but I’m not watching her or going to her meetings and churches using her books for Bible study is not right to me.
Yes I listened and could not make head or tail
what the teaching was about. It was confusing and Beth seemed confused and not at ease.
What denomination are you all? Please answer. I'm so confused!
Thank you for this helpful discussion, Susan and Justin!
Sadly, most Christian husband's don't read Scripture and pray with their wives.If your husband does be grateful.
Note of appreciation to Susan Heck. She has been a blessing and inspiration to me to memorize scripture. It's difficult yes but it's a wonderful struggle (if that makes sense). I listen to her often and hope that I could attend one of her seminars in person!
Wonderful interview! Ive been going through Mrs Heck's studies on 1 Timothy and love it. So much so i passed it on to my pastors wife and another lady in my church. In saying that, we use kjv. But i dont mind a select few other versions being used. I believe Susan uses NKJV so i figured it was close enough. A couple of days later my pastors wife texted me back and said while Susan was good, i shouldnt listen to anyone who doesnt use kjv and doing so only leads to confusion. 🤦 i told my husband and he just shook his head in disbelief.
Royal Deceptions: Exposing the King James Only Conspiracies ua-cam.com/video/Lyu_MPe2ZvM/v-deo.html; King James Onlyism? ua-cam.com/video/NBWBytK8gnQ/v-deo.html
I recognized some of this about Beth Moore many years ago and refused to continue in a Ladie’s Bible study that was using her material.
Why?
@@tishleigh7026 discernment.
lol. you showed her.
A couple of years ago my church's women's bible study used a book/series that taught by Jennifer Rothschild called Me Myself and Lies. As we watched this study on video, i noticed that she refrenced beth moore. I immediately became upset, because i already knew moore as a rebel and heretic. Then i looked into Rothschild, and found out she's part of the charismatic movement. I didnt go back, but i didn't say anything. No I'm upset at myself, because i see and here that some of the women at my church listen to moore and joyce Meyer.
I honestly feel that the lady, nice as she is, has no discernment when she chooses these bible studies. She just doesn't do her due diligence in examining these books and authors. Im afraid that this pseudo christian feminism is going to invade our church and destroy it from within.
Id like to tell my pastor, but im afraid he'll think im some kind of rabble rouser complainer. He teaches sound doctrine, but i dont think he checks what this woman is bringing into the womens study. I will continue to pray about it, but id really like a suggestion of whether i should confront the pastor and bring this to his attention.?
Same here.
Justin, thank you for introducing us to Susan Heck. I have bought some of her books and am watching her videos.
I did the same and it has been so helpful to me!
Following from Kenya, thanks Justin and Susan for that amazing interview. Praise be to God.
@Justin Peters 🤮🤮🤮
Greetings Kenya from Pennsylvania, USA! 😊
I’m SO thankful for people like you all that point people to the Word! Studying Scripture has been so life-changing for me that I now truly hate shallow, emotionally-manipulative false teachings that lead people away from the Truth. “Through your precepts I get understanding; therefore I hate every false way.” Ps 119:104
Amen!
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Great interview w Susan Heck. I’ve listened and watched lots of Susan’s series teachings on UA-cam… she’s an excellent Bible teacher. Great expository of the word…Thank you for featuring her on your channel.
Thank you Justin for waking up people on the false preachers, I used to watch alot of these people but something was very unsettling in my spirit about alot of these preachers. Now I know why.
This is excellent - what a godly woman. Very encouraging.
Beth Moore recounts really fantastical stories of how God tells her to do certain things. Big red flag .
Straight up I’m not in disagreement with the Beth Moore is but your RED FLAG COMMENT has stirred me
I guess if God told you
“Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof. And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it. Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.
Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.”
Ezekiel 4:9-11, 15
You’d fly a red flag
@@beppiek There is NO comparison. You are taking God's OWN words out of Scripture and comparing them to Beth Moore's. There are two words for that - comparing the two is called blasphemy. God DID give those words to someone HIMSELF, as clearly, it is IN the Scriptures. The other word is idolatry - Your lack of discernment is causing you to fall into idolizing Beth Moore, and so much WORSE when you even THINK of comparing anything she says (OR how she says it) to God's own Holy word. The Scriptures are CLEAR about how God speaks today and about what He speaks today. Rather than take God's own word, you take Beth Moore's? I MUST ask: ARE you serious? Talk about a *RED FLAG!* It is commanded more than once in Scripture that a woman is NOT to be behind a Pulpit. What is there to NOT understand? Beth believes she *belongs* there. That ALONE should send you running, but again, discernment is required. Not to mention the MANY bizarre and the "woke" things she has come out with lately. A question - DO you read your Bible? As that does grow discernment, but sorry, I see none in you. I saw Moore was trouble when she changed a 10 year old book saying that she was out of line (for telling the truth in Scripture) concerning God's own words on Homosexuality. You REALLY need to work on your discernment, and get into God's word for HIS truth. Compare what Beth is saying and doing *against* God's own Holy word. Idolatry is sin, and sorry, but your comment has Idolatry *SCREAMING* all through it. You really need to choose: God's word or Beth Moore's word - and all this is as lovingly as I can say it considering the utter shock I am in that you even dared compare God's word to whatever Moore says. Stunned. I pray that you wake up and you repent. This is so totally a VERY serious matter. EVERY book of the New Testament Epistle and Book but Philemon mentions false teachers - and against them. IF you read your Bible, you could never miss just how much God is against them in every way in His very Own Holy word. (Sorry for length, this is SERIOUS, concerning your very soul.)
You’re punking me right
Chill out
God speaks to His own whether you like it or not ... I know zero about Beth Moore outside of she shouldn’t be a pastor but I guess she’s just following Joyce and the rest of them
My point is GOD SPOKE AND STILL SPEAKS ...
Blasphemy your over reacting if you didn’t get the comment
I’m NEVER GOING TO SAY WHAT GOD CAN SAY OR NOT AN TO WHOM
so thank you for your lengthy concern 😳
@@beppiek God does not audibly speak to people now. He speaks through his word .
@@TheMistysFavs God speaks first and foremost in and thru his word! That's why he says know me in and thru my word because my word is a sure thing. What ever the situation the answer, the truth can be found in the word of God. Whether people want to accept it or not that is a different thing altogether but it's still the truth. God does not change nor does his word. People change the word of God to support their interpretation of the word of God and their false teaching. They really can't change it, they just pervert it! People fall into error simply because they have little or next to no discernment in the Spirit and are not grounded in the word.
Great video! I’d love to be friends with Susan! She’s a sweet lady and I loved it when she talked about, how to respond to a husband if he didn’t want his wife to attend church! Thank you for your ministry Justin and thank you for having Susan on!😊Glory to God!
If you are ever in the Tulsa area, come by on a sunday morning!
@Justin Peters 🤮🤮🤮
Thanks! Many decades ago, I did a couple of her Bible studies, and her animation, drama, and not blinking enough bothered me. She was too intense for me. Then, I made bad decisions, and left being an active church member, and Christian. I'm on the road to drawing closer to God, but not sure who to listen to, and that's how I found you to be someone to give me insight. This is my first video learning insight into Beth Moore, since I completely turned against her for speaking out against Trump. No, he wasn't my first choice, but he was the candidate, and we put in party not person. The Right needed to be in power, as I view it to be the side honoring the Christian God, more. And, after the bad decisions I made, I'd look really bad judging others' past. Thank God for His mercy and grace.
I love Mrs. Heck and highly recommend her teaching videos! She is rock solid and not afraid to call out heresy.
Much respect to Susan Heck. I have attended a couple of her classes, she's really a wonderful teacher.
I stopped studying Beth Moore when I left the SBC. Women were taking her teaching as the Word! May the true Holy Spirit of God Almighty open her eyes to His truth and how women are to be under the umbrella of godly men.
Good for you sister! I was wondering if you could tell me a bit about the SBC. I had been under the impression that they fully agreed with beth moore, but as she has decided to leave it seems I was wrong. What is their position theologically if I may ask?
@@mercyp7151 I would recommend to you the UTube channel Founders Ministries. It is lead by Pastor Tom Ascol and Jared Longshore. They are both outstanding godly pastors in the SBC and have been warning their baptist denominations about not only Beth Moore but Critical Race Theory as well for several years. You will find lots of videos that are helpful. God bless you.
I have a couple friends that grew up Southern Baptist and they refuse to believe that BM is a bad teacher, they point to how she was a role model to them when they were growing up...I was raised catholic(evangelical now) so had no idea who she was when I was growing up. A small group in my church is reading one of her books now which is very concerning
Where in Scripture does it say a woman must be under the “umbrella of godly men?”
@@patsyadams734 only one man, your husband, not godly men. Or if you’re a child, your father. That’s my opinion from the scriptures
Beth Moore has been priming her follows to defend her against her enemies for a couple of years now. She loves painting herself as a victim and calling out “scoffers” (her term). They feel they are defending the honor of their idol.
My cousin listens to her 😢
@Justin Peters Scam artist!!!
Liar!
The 2nd comment here is from a scam artist who poses all the time on comment sections under the name of whoever is the person in the video.
Anyone who has listened much to Justin Peters knows that he is totally unlikely to claim having a "word or vision from God." Lol 😆😆
This scammer has posted other comments on this section under other names as well.
Yes. False teachers going on deceiving and being deceived they are
Just have An Optomotrist/Opthamologist Test her Pupils Next Time She gets on A Platform...They Will tell ya whats Up.. With those Eyes
My wife and I are enjoying this interview. We appreciate the constant reference to the inerrancy of Scripture and the proper roles of men and women the church. With that said, my Yorkie will not stop barking at the screen during this interview, a phenomenon that we have never observed in our five pound beast. 🙂
Thank you for this interview. This gives me pause with something I have been doing that I think I may need to pray about and change now - handing over the reins of teaching God’s Word to my son who is a new Christian (1 year) but is also 25 and has just married a wonderful godly woman and attends a great church.
My spiritual headship with my children originally came about from necessity since I married someone who I thought was a Christian but who within a year of marriage fell away and is now an agnostic.
My husband began teaching our kids the opposite of God’s Word, and even encouraged them to sin at times. I was the one that spiritually shepherded my children, but that was a very delicate thing to do since I wanted to honor my husband and prayed for his restoration. I wanted us to be united for our children.
Eventually my husband abandoned us, and the result was our kids wanted nothing to do with God. But slowly and surely God allowed me to model Christ to them. Our church was moving away from the soundness of doctrine but COVID gave me the opportunity to introduce my kids to John MacArthur, Alistair Begg, Kevin deYoung, and RC Sproul. God used those teachers to instruct them and we would have spiritual conversations afterwards.
Three years ago my daughter was saved, and one year ago my son was saved. He said the two people who have taught him the most about God’s Word has been me and his then-fiancé/now-wife. A few months ago he asked me how he can become the spiritual leader of his household. I told him to pray that God will guide him, and then read the Bible cover to cover with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, his pastor, and teachings by the pastors I mentioned above.
But each time we talk I find myself teaching him and bringing scripture to bear in our conversations. He says he loves our conversations and learns a lot. But maybe it’s time for me to stop and let him instruct me.
Any suggestions?
You are his mother. Continue in your wonderful godly conservation with your son. I think you are reading too much in this.
Excellent commentary. I have been to Beth Moore studies many years ago and I quit after 1st book study due to the fact it was based on feelings and fluff over substance and truth
I’m so excited to see an interview with Susan! What an inspiring precious sister in Christ! You know the phrase, “That’s who I want to be when I grow up.”? That’s how I feel about Susan, her effort to follow Christ & faithfully adhere to His word is extremely admirable! Thanks Justin, as always, great work!
I must add how grateful I am for these teachings because they helped me come away from egalitarianism & the many heresies I believed in. At one point I was an ordained minister & had no idea my actions were going against God’s ordained order. Thank Jesus for calling me to repentance so that I can do what is right in God’s eyes & not my own. I was raised in the hyper charismatic, NAR, blab it & grab it & babble blah blah blah false gospel. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t wake up rejoicing & praising God for bringing me out of error & into truth! I thank Him for sound teachers like you both, who faithfully exegete the scriptures & rightly divide the Word!
Me too! I wanna be like Susan Heck!
Mee too!!!!!! I’ve added that to my prayers 😂
@@ylecaraparr2102 @Christine Mosley Amen sisters! May the grace and peace of Christ Jesus be with you always! 💜
@@Baba_Wawa I can relate to your comments. I was in the WoF and NAR churches too. Although not a preacher, I was considered to be a prophet and thought that was my calling. I'm so thankful to finally be free of all the false teaching but my family members are still deeply involved and my aunt and (female) cousin are both ordained pastors/prophets. I pray that God opens their eyes to the truth and brings them to repentance.
I left Beth Moore when she hooked up with false teacher Rick Warren. Years ago.
What’s wrong with Rick Warren? Clarify specifically what false teachings he has done.
I don’t hear any specifics here about Beth - I know she can be a little wacky but I need more specifics.
@Justin Peters not working! Everyone knows you are not the real one..🤣
@Emily Wheeler provide more specifics. What is so wrong with self reflecting & correcting what you see wrong about yourself (repenting of sin) ? That is the purpose driven life, which is to become more Christ-like through Christ who strengthens me.
@@jsf8145
Re: Rick Warren.
Justin made a video "False Teachers Exposed" and in a clip Rick said in an interview " it is almost impossible to go to hell".
My grandparents were Salvation Army officers. So many people were blessed by my grandmother’s holiness teachings....both men and women.
It just shows how the Salvation Army does not follow the teachings of the Bible. Women are not to teach men. How many times do you have to hear this before you accept it?
I just love Susan Heck. I totally agree with her and her position on women in the church. thank you for your strong position.
I have done so many of her Bible Studies unfortunately. Gladly our ladies ministry is moving away from all Bible Studies like hers. I praise God for women like Mrs. Heck. We just went verse by verse through Jude! It was awesome!!
@Justin Peters stop, imposter. 🙄. This is NOT the channel for you to try this. Trust me
Thank you Justin for posting this! Yahweh opened my eyes out of the charismatic movement prior to the start and eventual lockdown, that still persists here in Canada, with the coronavirus. I recently have become engaged and desire to know more of The Holy Scriptures. Thank you for introducing me to Mrs Heck. I have now subbed to her YT channel and look forward to becoming more learned in The Word.
Blessings to you, your family and ministry🙏🏿
Praise the Lord you are out of that mess . He opened your eyes.
I’m sincerely asking...but is not Mrs Heck teaching Justin and a huge audience, men included, by conducting this video? He is actually asking her questions. The idea of just because she is not behind a pulpit on a Sunday does not hold hold up in scripture. This would invalidate Jesus’ “sermon” on the mount...outdoors....not in a synagogue. She can not have it both ways. It seems she can not acknowledge that some serious preaching has taken place in prisons, concentration camps, classrooms, impromptu moves of the Holy Spirit....by female followers of Christ. Maybe her argument holds up when speaking of close discipleship/authority but not teaching. And Neither should a man who is not related to a woman closely disciple her in most situations. Peter said “he” did not permit teaching. Peter also had to be corrected about circumcising of converts. We are losing our minds here. We allow women to teach impressionable youth but not grown men with way more discernment than children. I’m genuinely torn about this and saddened. I’m reading the same Bible as her but I see women quoted in lengthy passages, a queen mother giving instructions. I maybe get her point about not being in authority over a man but not the teaching. There is some major cognitive dissonance going on in this interview because TEACHING is what she is engaging in. She is teaching that women can’t teach 🤣
Let us pray for your Cognitive Dissonance
@@claytonjennings3038 clever 😊 made me smile Clayton
Thank you for this! It is so affirming! We just had a woman pastor temporarily take over our church and I have felt deeply convicted about this so we have pulled out of ministry for now. Thankful for God’s goodness and faithfulness to His people. He is more than able, amen!
Thank you for this video. You and Susan gave me what I needed to refute a friends sudden change to non-complementarianism and what that means.
So many ministries seem to be hyper-focused on correcting people like Beth Moore in every way except speaking directly with Beth Moore. We bring in third parties to provide weight to one side of an argument rather than working directly with a person to restore that person. This route seems to bring further division in an already divided church and distracts people from sharing the gospel.
Beth Moore has preempted any discussion by calling people who don’t agree with her as “scoffers.”
@@Annie261. Regardless of how she responds, scripture is fairly clear on the issues of church discipline. Titus 3 comes to mind although, in this situation, I'm not sure which side is more guilty of stirring up controversy.
Exactly. I thought true Christ-followers are not only supposed to correct and teach, but also to love and share the Good News. The massive attention directed at other’s flaws doesn’t seem godly to me....
@@krhoden82 I think you are ignoring that God Hi myself divides the wheat from the tares.
All believers should only desire and seek pure Truth.
This is not an attack on people it is shedding light on darkness.
@@krhoden82 That scripture applies to Christians. Beth Moore is not a Christian, but a false prophet/heretic/wolf in sheeps clothing. We know that by her fruits. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain."
My old church had a woman’s Bible study with Beth Moore’s teachings. I was perplexed. They had devotions in Jesus Calling. Everyone loved these two teaching tools. I thought something was wrong with me because I didn’t. Our pastor came out of master seminary school? They liked Mark Driscoll? I warned people about him. How can I know these are wrong and leadership doesn’t? That’s the more baffling part to me. So glad you brought her up in discussion. Thank you so much.🤗
My church actually has a designated pastor for education and they routinely allow Bible studies by popular false teachers. I sent a message to him that I was troubled to see the church offering studies written by problematic teachers. I asked if the church had a vetting process in place to prevent false teachers from coming in or if study group leaders made those decisions on an individual basis. He basically said he was sorry I was disturbed and assured me they have a do have a process in place for how they choose studies. At that point I lost any confidence I had in that church because obviously Holy Spirit has no place there.
I have said that Jesus Calling is nothing more than Satan drunk dialing a medium. So you’re not alone!!
@@touchofgrace3217, I to ask questions! I eventually leave the church. I’m trying to find a church I can tolerate and use my gifts. Mine is discernment and helps, so you can see where my problem is? Right now it’s a church that stays open not on zoom.
I am currently holding a bible study in my home right now with a few women going over her 5 teachings on being woman of the Word. Desiring, Delighting, Discerning, Diligent and Doing.
The ladies appreciated that Susan didn’t try to use her life stories to create some emotional attachment in order to be relatable but just simply taught the word. The ladies loved it.
Hi Amber...what is the title of this study, please and thank you?
@@karenford4914 it is on You Tube. In the search type in Susan Heck Desiring the Word. There are 5 videos and on the first video she gives the order of the teachings. I think it is Desiring, Delighting, Discerning, Diligent and Doing.
We meet every other week and we watch the video for the first hour then the second hour we discuss the video. Since I facilitate the meeting I listen ahead of time and right down parts I want to go back over and talk about for a bit. Then we pray!
@@amberhebert2062 found them...they are from Cornerstone Baptist Church of Orlando. Thank you SO much!!
@@karenford4914 yes those are the ones.
I believe, dear Beth Moore, is a modern day example of “King Saul”-who was called and anointed by GOD but loses both through his own fleshly lusts.
Beth Moore started out with a real compassion and heart for women in “The Church”-many who have husbands that demand obedience before being loved.
Beth’s compassion was REAL and her ministry was originally effectual.
However, as with so many “ministries” it slowly turned into a display of me, myself and I.
She began to strut the stage, her hair clothes and nails seemed to be more important than the Holy Spirit anointing and content of the message-which slowly became “her” message….
Then came: “my books”, “my notebooks”, my website-my, my, my. The fancy lifestyle, that the average “Christian woman” would NEVER get to have or enjoy-classic prosperity living!
The transition from a true, authentic ministry to one lead by ego was slow and subtle but transition it did-and, sweet Beth Moore has never been the same since. Our hearts should be grieved because of it!! Heaven knows she’s not the only one who stated out (to serve the Lord) so right and ended up so wrong.
I pray this precious woman comes to soul wrenching clarity before it’s eternally too late.
I can, in all humility say, “there but for the grace of GOD go I.”
I TOTALLY agree. She lost her way as she became more 'popular'.
"In the essentials, unity; in the non-essentials, liberty; in all things charity." Augustine of Hippo
Judge not that you be not judged!!!
@@shawnkadar4878 read the rest of the chapter. Stop using judging out of context lest you be like Satan
This woman is spot on. Beth Moore is nothing more than an emotional out of context heretic women need to STAY AWAY from. I got sober at one of her conventions , and I held tight to her for years. UNTIL the Lord showed me it was his divine Providence , in his sovereignty that I be saved and cleaned, nothing to do with her heresy.
@@shawnkadar4878 dont be a cartoon
@@TheSacredlizzy , I know little about Beth Moore's teaching. Does the heresy lie in egalitarianism or something else? Is anything she teaching contradict the Christ's atonement or divinity? I am reluctant to label a person a heretic unless they are teaching something contrary to fundamental doctrine, e.g. Christ's divinity, blood atonement, death, burial and bodily resurrection,
Sadly I used to listen to Beth Moore Bible studies. I feel like my church and I were so mislead. Thank you both for your great and sound Bible teachings.
@Justin Peters 🤮🤮🤮
Justin I have to apologize for anytime I have come against you. I have always considered you to be a very humble honest God fearing true witness of the Gospel and I grew up in an extreme charismatic church like the ones that you all are exposing but I will have to say that I'm thankful that God did not let it stick because as an adult I went on a search for the truth of God because even as a 12-year-old I knew that something was wrong with that situation. Anyway thank you for introducing us to sue and thank you sue for participating in the interview. I am looking forward to reading your books. I have watched Beth Moore a handful of times in the past but she was not necessarily my cup of tea although I was not finding any real fault with her until now. I did not start reading Bible text for myself until a few years ago after God delivered me from a 30-year cigarette addiction and he did that in literally one night! Like, I went to sleep a cigarette smoker and woke up and have not had a cigarette in 6 years!!!! I know he does miracles I know he is our deliverer but I'm very thankful that I'm also learning how to walk with him in obedience to his written word!
Hi Pamela - thank you for your kind words. Your apology is graciously accepted. Blessings to you :)
@@JustinPetersMin Thank you Sir. I greatly enjoy your sermons and I pray that God will open more doors for people who have had conversion experiences to share their testimonies as I'm sure those are powerful testimonies. I am still very grateful that God rescued me from a carnal false conversion. There's nothing like knowing the presence of God when you are truly submitted to his authority and all you can do is be thankful for his Mercy. I appreciate your ministry as well as John MacArthur, Phil Johnson, Todd Friel, etc. It's my opinion that God is raising up a generation of people who actually are in alignment with the end of the book that says, THOSE WHO HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
@@JustinPetersMin GOD BLESS YOU, YOUR WIFE AND YOUR MINISTRY SIR. I'M SURE THERE ARE A GREAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT GOD HAS GRACED YOU TO DO FOR HIS KINGDOM.
Susan Heck and Martha Peace greatly influenced me as a young bride🤗🤗🤗🤗14 years ago. I praise God for them🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@Justin Peters You are not the real Justin Peters!!! May God have mercy on your soul.
there sure is a lot of unnecessary criticism. just share the word and let people be enlightened. this is poor taste.
I have had my reservations about BM!!! When she just ever so slightly twists the scriptures to fit a popular agenda...we must be so discerning in these times.
Do you think this is a Jezebel Spirit? I’ve noticed that these churches that watch her DVD’s instead of getting in The Word, seem to have a culture of gossip.
This is amazing. So full of Biblical Truth. Thank you. It seems we, as Christians are being shown clearly the deception of these last days...God bless you both❤
I agree with the lady that said we should not rip Christian’s apart but rather do as the Bible says and go to them personally and then take fellow Christians with you to confront their error. etc. This lady needs to put to use her memorized scriptures and follow what God tells us to do in this situation.
Yes. When she said that she does not even know her but is using this platform to incriminate her, I believe this makes us no different from the unbelievers who have no map to live. Matthew 18
If Beth Moore's errors were made in private, then a private conversation would be in order. She has made herself a public figure, however, and her false teaching is made in public therefore to address the issue in public is not only appropriate it is mandatory according to a variety of Scriptures commanding God's followers to warn people about false teachers. It is not loving to see someone blindly walking to the edge of a cliff and refuse to warn them of the dangers ahead.
Thank you so much for reminding us that women should never preach from the pulpit. Several weeks ago, there was a woman that gave the message. At the end of this message, I could not understand why I was uneasy about this. Now I know. I have now thought about going back to the pastor and asking him as to why she was allowed to bring this message to the congregation.
I appreciate you guys! Thank you for sharing this! I was a Beth Moore follower! god started nudging my spirit to investigate her further
So much important information here. Thank you for this video. Another person that concerns me is Sarah Young, author of Jesus Calling devotionals. Even before knowing The Bible (which I am still reading through for the first time), I was feeling something “off” about her devotional as I began reading it. I was wondering who or WHAT was really speaking to her?? So concerning for all who follow her.
Longfortruth UA-cam channel did an extensive video on Sarah Young’s Jesus calling books. You are right her devotional is not biblical, more so new-age wrapped in false Christianity.
I admire your ministry Susan, along with your knowledge and memorization of scripture.
Amen. Anyone whose a True Bible believing READING Christian would be able to discern the Truth and to know she is a wolf. Thank u for this Justin Peters 🙏🏼✝️
True but new believers don’t often see it right away. I used to do her studies at church many years ago but as I grew in His Word and got to know Him then He led me away from her.
God bless you
@@JesusIsComing1111 Well I used to listen to Joyce Meyers lol but I was told to listen to her from someone who was “born again” for 20 years and also I wasn’t reading my Bible. But I knew something was off because everything she preached was peaches and cream lol and I knew that was wrong, I always heard when u fully submit and give her life to Christ was when life gets harder , the attacks start and persecution ETC, so I started praying on it and God showed me that she was a false teacher and I started finally reading my Bible that was collecting dust for 6 months when I thought I gave my life to Christ but apparently I didn’t fully, but after that I can finally say I am saved 6 1/2 years now and wouldn’t go back for anything nor anyone and can’t get enough of my Bible lol. Have a blessed night
@@jennamarielovesjesus12 This ~> "I started finally reading my Bible that was collecting dust for 6 months" is absolutely the problem, as you learned, praise God!! Too many women (AND men) depend on others far too much for information about preachers or on pre-made Bible Study books and depend less on the reading of the truth of God's own word with the leading of the Holy Ghost too little. We have all been there at one point, I know! Stay in His word, and love and discernment will certainly keep growing! God bless you, sister!
@@TheMistysFavs Amen. Yessss the Holy Spirit leads and guide us into all truth, we can learn from others obviously like Justin Peters and Susan but our main teacher is God and His Word. If we search for Truth, He will Never withhold it from us. Blessings lovely
@@JesusIsComing1111 I was a brand new Believer and the church where I attended had a women's ministry that constantly held Beth Moore Bible studies. It took years for me to fully recognize that Beth Moore was not a sound teacher, and only after I attended many of her studies and conferences. I can't say my spirit wasn't troubled at some of the things she said and did after a few of her studies, but many women I considered more mature in the Lord trusted her and she was approved by the Pastor.
Isn't this amazing that only today I googled how to memorise scripture and Beth's name came up and I thought this was the lady Justin mentioned a while back that from memory can memorise 34 books of the Bible and I have just started my practise today. I'm just not too sure where to start but God never ceases to amaze me by keeping me safe as I might off started taking her advise. Hope this makes sense. Thanks to you both from East London UK.
This has to be one of the most important videos for all Christians to watch in this day!
So sad, the passing of pastor Doug. He is with God. Prayers for Beth, familie and Grace Community Church, Tulsa.
Wow what a great treat to spot this on my UA-cam Feed. I am learning so much listening to people such as Justin and Susan. Thank you. I am in the process of 'de-programming' from the Word of Faith/Charismatic Church. Thank you!
Me too 😓 I pray that you come to the knowledge of the truth
@julie Hiscocks God’s grace❤️😊 blessings to you julie 🙏 so happy for you😀
Why aren't you giving specific examples? I hear a lot of I'm very concerned which in the church I grew up in was code for let's talk about somebody badly. I'm not particularly a fan but I'm not not a fan. What's wrong with being outspoken about political issues? What's wrong with women preaching in the pulpit? This whole channel just sounds a whole lot about Christians talking about other Christians and trashing them and I came from that kind of church and I want no part of it so I won't be subscribing
Thanks for your resource page. I linked up with Susan and Doug recently to join their fantastic Church after I found them on your site.
Wow! Incredible! I just learned about Susan Heck on this day through Doreen Virtru. So I listened to Susan's women's Bible study about contentment. Very convicting and encouraging .