MONGOLIAN & KALMYK

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  • @kts437
    @kts437 Рік тому +86

    As a native Mongol speaker, I love this video that compares Mongolian and Kalmyk. Both Mongolian and Kalmyk belong to the same family group called Mongolic languages. As I grew up in western Mongolia, I was able to understand Kalmyk because it retains the old Oirat Mongolian dialect. Some of my relatives who live in very rural remote area still speak like Kalmyk in this video. I laughed a lot because it reminds me of my childhood funny memories speaking with my rural Western Oirat Mongol relatives.

    • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
      @MrAllmightyCornholioz Рік тому +9

      Tengri bless the Mongols!

    • @ninjinczn5577
      @ninjinczn5577 Рік тому +3

      Saameee. It does remind me my childhood. Sadly elders who speaks Oirad dialect are all passed away in my family.

  • @ninjinczn5577
    @ninjinczn5577 Рік тому +34

    As a Bayad Mongol I understand both dialects 100% 😂😂 Kalmyk dialect sounds just like how my grandparents speak.

    • @bloodyshark2126
      @bloodyshark2126 Рік тому

      Eey wassup

    • @floridaliving9329
      @floridaliving9329 Рік тому +3

      Amar mende! Yes, that is because Bayad are Oirad-Mongol as well as Kalmyks. We have 4 major tribes in Kalmykia - Dorvod, Torgud, Khoshud and Zungar (also Buzav or Don river Kalmyks, which is a group formed from all of the above mentioned tribes in the 18-19 centuries. They were part of Don Cossacks and gradually became a distinct subgroup of Kalmyks). There was a Bayad Mongol student in Kalmyk State University in 2014 and his Oirad was very similar to Kalmyk. But he said that the generation of his parents speak a pure Oirad dialect, identical to Oirad spoken in Kalmykia. We also have a family of Dorvod nomads from Mongolia living in Kalmykia and they speak Oirad virtually indistinguishable from Kalmyk. In Kalmykia we see ourselves as a part of the greater Mongolian nation.

  • @HULAYGONNA
    @HULAYGONNA Рік тому +38

    Please add the words "mother, father, home, family, house, horse, dog, mountain, river, sea, tree, sky, " to each language at the beginning.

  • @Luce-Zar
    @Luce-Zar Рік тому +41

    There's one more thing. Kalmyks are something unique in Europe. First, Kalmykia is the only official Buddhist aerial majority in Europe (In Russia, just a bit Northernmost form Caucasus). Second, Kalmyk language is the only of Mongolian origin in Europe.
    Note that both languages use Cyrillic alphabets officially. Only in China, whoever left, use Todo Bichig, the one of their own

    • @MrAngelG18oficial
      @MrAngelG18oficial Рік тому

      And the Buryat language, is the alphabet latin cyrillic turkic languages and the mongolic of the Russia and Mongolia

    • @ironheart5830
      @ironheart5830 Рік тому

      Hope they continue to use Todo Bichig.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому

      ​@@MrAngelG18oficial what does that even mean?

    • @hoolidii
      @hoolidii Рік тому +3

      In china they use mongol bichig. I think todo bichig is actually older version of mongol bichig. Todo bichig is ofc different than mongol, but considering that they moved way before like 500 years ago, it's more different than reset of mongolic speakers. Bcs reset of them were developed together, whereas they were far away using the older version (also their own way of speaking in the writing, all mongol ppl used one writing system but read in their own dialects)

  • @tanichun
    @tanichun Рік тому +9

    I am mongolian as old oirat mongolian. So i understand both of them. He sounds like my grandfather.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Рік тому +6

    Very cool.

  • @danielpmonteyro
    @danielpmonteyro Рік тому +43

    Kalmyk was used to create Ewokese, the language of the Ewoks in Star Wars... the only sentence I saw written of it was Ehda Eedeeza Yuhda in the game Star Wars Battlefront 2

    • @Brann1k
      @Brann1k Рік тому +1

      no wonder they looked kind of mongolian

    • @munkhtulgamunguntsooj5197
      @munkhtulgamunguntsooj5197 Рік тому +4

      @@Brann1kcould you just google Mongolians? They weren’t so barbaric

    • @aage3060
      @aage3060 Рік тому

      This is basically ewokese vs klingon 😅

    • @danielpmonteyro
      @danielpmonteyro Рік тому +2

      @@aage3060 haha Klingon is a truly developed language, Ewokese is kind of "pocket language" like the language of Mordor. If Sauron just had an army of Ewoks, he would've conquered Middle-earth

    • @aage3060
      @aage3060 Рік тому

      @@danielpmonteyro so are modern khalkha (mongolian) vs oirat (comparison). Historically khalkha is more like giant confederation rather than tribe, encompassing many different mongolic tribes, including nearby southern mongol, oirats and buryats. It has tons of loanwords from these tribes as well as loanwords from manchu, tibetan, chinese, turkic and russian languages. Whereas kalmyks are only confederation of two mongol tribes: torghuts and durbets.

  • @leonardoschiavelli6478
    @leonardoschiavelli6478 Рік тому +37

    Kalmyk, the lone wolf of Mongolic family, as well as Malagasy in relation with Austronesian languages. 😇

    • @mysteriousDSF
      @mysteriousDSF Рік тому +4

      Hungarian of Uralic basically. Although I wish we were as similar with Finnish as these two are.

    • @mikhaiiil
      @mikhaiiil Рік тому +2

      Chuvash,Khalaj and Salar in Turkic Family

    • @brtr3556
      @brtr3556 Рік тому

      ​@@mikhaiiil or yakut in turkic

    • @guney2811
      @guney2811 5 місяців тому

      ​@@mikhaiiilsalar isn't that different imo, it's apart of the oghuz branch (which also includes Turkish, Azerbaijani, Turkmen and Qashqai), I speak Turkish and I can understand around 40%, but I can't understand Chuvash at all (idk about khalaj, I haven't heard it before)

  • @ansuzsociety
    @ansuzsociety Рік тому +6

    Beautiful!

  • @pablito8568
    @pablito8568 Рік тому +22

    I really like the sound of mongolic languages, one of the most beautiful and interesting in my opinion ❤

  • @barguttobed
    @barguttobed Рік тому +11

    Please make the same comparison with Buryat language

  • @dominicwynter4805
    @dominicwynter4805 Рік тому +9

    A slightly unrelated suggestion, but will there ever be a video for Ancient Attic Greek? PodiumArts (Ioannis Stratakis) has very good videos in reconstructed Ancient Greek on his own channel, and it would be incredible if he could record a sample text for this channel.

  • @borgilbatbaatar7683
    @borgilbatbaatar7683 11 місяців тому +3

    Turkish guy: I am understanding Kalmyk 😂 so funny

    • @scepticsquirrel
      @scepticsquirrel 8 місяців тому +4

      He must be joking. All these sounds like alien language for me, and most possibly would be like that for %90 of our people.
      I saw that comment, he is Filipino and he says the way of speaking sounds similar. Maybe these two languages sounded similar to his ear.

    • @alitok9564
      @alitok9564 6 місяців тому

      @@scepticsquirrelal turk deil

  • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
    @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +16

    Tartaric utterance!
    Love Khalkh and Oirad tongues as much as Sakha, Altai and Tuvan!

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +1

      Where are u from bro? I always see positive comments from your parts under mongol vids❤

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +5

      @@barguttobed Bro, I love different languages and cultures. And I am from Pakistan.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +5

      @@kamrankhan-lj1ng Oh ok👍🏼 i’m Buryad Mongolian, greetings to you and Amar Mendee!

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +1

      @@barguttobed I know Mongolian has many borrowings from Tibetan.
      By any chance "amar" in amar mendee is Sanskrit, meaning immortal???

    • @NikoVonBauer
      @NikoVonBauer 10 місяців тому

      Same people same family

  • @thatonenerd21
    @thatonenerd21 Рік тому +26

    I have been fascinated by Mongolian Language/Languages! They have so much history behind them, I hope they start using Traditional Mongolian Alphabet instead of Cyrillic. ᠮᠣᠩᠭ᠋ᠣᠯ ᠲᠣᠩ ᠭᠣᠶᠣ᠃ 😊
    ps: I have a question, How does Andy Upload videos Everyday? Sometimes 2 videos a day! How does Andy do it and what does Andy use?

    • @belugaowo
      @belugaowo Рік тому

      Probably a screen recorder and a customisable slideshow template? (Just assuming but also quite impressive that this channel is able to create content quickly)

    • @pacaskurban
      @pacaskurban Рік тому

      it looks like aramaic upside down :D

    • @SuperJavaMan7
      @SuperJavaMan7 Рік тому

      Outer Mongolia tried bring back to make use this online but many young people in mongolia fully use latin to speak mongolian now

  • @信者の男
    @信者の男 Рік тому +17

    0:56 why Kalmyk is much longer than mongolian?

    • @KeekCat
      @KeekCat Рік тому +5

      Just like how Finnish is a longer version of Estonian

    • @jokemon9547
      @jokemon9547 Рік тому +1

      @@KeekCat Which is an odd way to put it, considering Estonian is the one out of the two that saw much more change while Finnish remained closer to what their common ancestral language was like.

    • @beregu
      @beregu Рік тому +2

      That’s because these sentences in Khalkha Mongolian and Kalmyk Mongolian are not the same.
      Kalmyks speak Torgut (Oirat) Mongolian dialect. 99% intelligible with the rest of Mongolian speakers.

    • @floridaliving9329
      @floridaliving9329 Рік тому +3

      The reason for that is because the Mongolian translation is more literal (word-to-word) and the Kalmyk translation is more loose and extended. It goes "Being that very many people gathered, there was no way for the newly arrived people to approach Jesus's house door. Jesus was giving people the good news." As you can see, some words were added to the original English text, hence the difference in length.

  • @SKITNICA95
    @SKITNICA95 Рік тому +9

    Somali and Oromo please

  • @taidkoassamvlog
    @taidkoassamvlog Рік тому +2

    You are very talented

  • @Skibidifortnite56
    @Skibidifortnite56 5 місяців тому +1

    Kalmyk language some word so familiar to Turkic

  • @skylargray455
    @skylargray455 Рік тому +15

    Mongolian sounds almost similar to Korean but different at the same time while Kalmyk sounds almost Turkic.

    • @munkhtulgamunguntsooj5197
      @munkhtulgamunguntsooj5197 Рік тому +14

      nahh Mongols could talk straightly without using translator with Kalmyk. you could hear Manchu. in my opinion(Mongol’s opinion) it’s pretty close to korea

    • @hoolidii
      @hoolidii Рік тому +5

      In this video they are not reading the same sentences. They could easily use older slangs. That words could sound similar. Ppl in mongolia living different area can use different words to refer the same things. for example, there are many ways to say a girls. Provinces have different ways of saying it, and ppl can easily understand each other. Mongolian myself literally understands it right away.

    • @oykuio
      @oykuio Рік тому +3

      ​@@munkhtulgamunguntsooj5197we're talking about pronunciation, not about vocabulary nor structure

    • @borgilbatbaatar7683
      @borgilbatbaatar7683 11 місяців тому +1

      Because guy with Korean accent narrated

  • @IllyrianPower214
    @IllyrianPower214 Рік тому +15

    0:04 👮🏻‍♀️where? show me!

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому

      What

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +2

      @@kamrankhan-lj1ng You have to activate your inner racist to understand the joke😂

  • @bilgekagan6678
    @bilgekagan6678 Рік тому +11

    I love mongolian language

  • @ingvardruid7997
    @ingvardruid7997 Рік тому +152

    To my mind, Kalmyk has more Turkic influence in pronunciation.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +35

      Kalmyk SOUNDS almost totally Turkic!!!

    • @Kenny-hl2km
      @Kenny-hl2km Рік тому +14

      ​@@kamrankhan-lj1ng but it doesn't have turkic decent. The ü ö pronounciations because of their accent

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +21

      Kalmyks as Oirads some centuries ago were also exposed to the influence of neighbouring Turkic languages like Tuvan, Altai, and Khazak. That might be the reason for its Turkic accent.

    • @Kenny-hl2km
      @Kenny-hl2km Рік тому +7

      @@kamrankhan-lj1ng who asked?

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +9

      @@Kenny-hl2km asked what?

  • @blueblue5407
    @blueblue5407 11 днів тому

    They are same language.

  • @davissae
    @davissae Рік тому +4

    A Mongolic language that migrated through Turkic land. Makes sense.

  • @stsbmu7169
    @stsbmu7169 Рік тому +1

    compared translation is completely irrelevant. It wasn't word to word translation, rather just symbolic one just bearing general meaning of the sentence. As a result it sounded like completely different languages. Generally if it as translated in similar way, languages would be much more resembling and same with each other

  • @Paquito910
    @Paquito910 Рік тому +3

    And how do you say "Your village is mine"?

  • @화이팅-t2q
    @화이팅-t2q Рік тому +13

    Are they mutually intelligible?

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому

      Thats the question

    • @rusmn12
      @rusmn12 Рік тому +2

      Yes, they are

    • @mishka3284
      @mishka3284 Рік тому +2

      100%

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +2

      But in these videos they deliberately present two very divergent versions of teo very similar languages.

    • @floridaliving9329
      @floridaliving9329 Рік тому

      @@kamrankhan-lj1ng Maybe not deliberately, but yes, the versions are very different.

  • @Munkhbayarkhavtgai
    @Munkhbayarkhavtgai Рік тому +7

    Mongolia and inner mongolia next

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +1

      Depends which dialect in Inner Mongolia there are Khorchin Halh Oirad Barga and many other mongol groups

    • @bloodyshark2126
      @bloodyshark2126 Рік тому

      @@barguttobed barga sounds almost like buriad
      there very few difference between halh, uzemchin, tsahar
      And horchin they sound very lady like shall we say 😂

  • @ChagataiBorjigin
    @ChagataiBorjigin Рік тому +5

    As a native Mongolian speaker, I understand Kalmyk 100%. These are a just branch dialects of one language.
    Mongolian-Eastern Mongol (Khalkha)
    Kalmyk-Western Mongol (Oirat)
    Buryat-Northern Mongol.

  • @KeekCat
    @KeekCat Рік тому +5

    Kalmyk interacted or possibly intermarried with neighboring Turkic tribes that's why the pronunciation is kinda Turkic.

  • @alphacentauri8598
    @alphacentauri8598 Рік тому

    Seems like a lot of the vowel sounds aren't written?

  • @tulgatseg3144
    @tulgatseg3144 2 місяці тому +1

    I am Khalkh Mongol and understand almost every words, but it funny to use Jesus tales as exemples. Hahaha. Mormones rules?.. Hahaha

  • @Namu89-q3d
    @Namu89-q3d Рік тому

    😂 гар хөл нь тахирсан хөвүүнд - саа өвчтэй хүүд 😅

  • @Brann1k
    @Brann1k Рік тому +5

    mongolian's pronounciation sounds very similar to korean. i don't know korean nor mongolian, i've just heard people speak the language, and in my opinion it sounds similar.

    • @anonymousbloke1
      @anonymousbloke1 Рік тому +4

      Mongolian had an enormous influence on Chinese (and therefore also Korean which was a Chinese protectorate for most of its history) and vice versa

    • @Brann1k
      @Brann1k Рік тому +1

      @@anonymousbloke1 makes sense

    • @hoolidii
      @hoolidii Рік тому +3

      ​​​@@Brann1kummm no that's very falls info. As a mongolian myself can tell you that only words from Chinese culture influenced mongolian. Such as words like shiivgua but we have our own way to say it.(tarvas) Or words like huar (we don't use it, only used during qing). It is influenced during Manchu Qing dynasty. Were some things in mongolia didn't have derived into our language.
      And search Ural Altaic language family. U can see that it will divide into 3. Turkic, Mongolic and Tungus. Mongolian obviously goes to mongolic language. And Korean belongs to Tungus. Manchu and Japanese too. As far I know mongolian and korean language have same grammar. Whereas china belongs to Sino-Tibetan language family. Totally different. They even have different grammar. (I know that bcs I have learned Chinese(mandarin), Japanese and Korean).
      Maybe some words could be derived into our language but it's not similar at all. (The original languages)

  • @benmugase
    @benmugase Рік тому +5

    I can't read the latinized ones..... Cyrillic would be better

    • @user-DontYouDare
      @user-DontYouDare Рік тому +1

      ​@@hamborger8546
      Latin:
      Bi chamd kiriil bichigleliig sanal bolgoj baina
      Cyrillic:
      Би чамд кирилл бичиглэлийг санал болгож байна
      Nah Cyrillic is better🎉

  • @justinnamuco9096
    @justinnamuco9096 Рік тому +1

    Mongolian literally sounds like Turkish. Does it have vowel harmony? Consonants and tone are also close enough.

    • @floridaliving9329
      @floridaliving9329 Рік тому +3

      Kalmyk has vowel harmony very similar to most Turkic languages. I believe that Mongolian has vowel harmony as well but not to the same extent. Do you find Mongolian or Kalmyk sounding more similar to Turkish? To my ear Turkish sounds much more similar to Kalmyk, rather than Mongolian. Just to clarify, Mongolian version goes first and then Kalmyk version follows, such as in this example 0:42 is Mongolian and 0:48 is Kalmyk.

    • @Apistoleon
      @Apistoleon 9 місяців тому

      Mongolian sounds very different than Turkish. Mongolian sounds partially similar to Tuvan Turkic. Just partially! Turkish sounds drastically different!

  • @CallMeGeruuu
    @CallMeGeruuu Рік тому +3

    Mongolian sounds like a mix of Persian and korean

    • @amirhanabatamurmahkto9373
      @amirhanabatamurmahkto9373 10 місяців тому

      Persian was founded by Korean ancestors called
      “””””Bur(Or Buri Or Bureo) Tribe””
      Bur(Bul)””.means “”Fire “
      in Korean
      We Korean had lived west Asia and Ventral Asia in Ancient time
      and gradually moved to East
      Most Central Asia regional area or city was named by Korean ancestors
      Only Korean can tralslate it’s real meaning
      Whether u guys believe or NOT

  • @naberkanka2489
    @naberkanka2489 Рік тому +3

    Kalmyk is little bit shifting to Turkic

  • @bokonoo77
    @bokonoo77 10 місяців тому

    I am outer mongolian born and raised in Ulaanbaatar from Khalkha and Dariganga parents
    but aside from single words
    the sentences are almost unintelligeble unlike inner mongolian dialect(which is probably more closer to medieval mongolian dialect)

    • @scepticsquirrel
      @scepticsquirrel 8 місяців тому

      Do not you consider Kalmyks and Buryats subgroups of Mongols?

  • @Bug4238
    @Bug4238 11 місяців тому

    Giống như tiếng ma quá à mông cổ tiếng ma thấy ghê quá à

  • @teszzz123
    @teszzz123 Рік тому

    Dialect isn't oirat

  • @zach0gr
    @zach0gr Рік тому +2

    Very soft tirklish languages. MOngol os more musical to my ears

  • @tedhubertcrusio372
    @tedhubertcrusio372 Рік тому +5

    Note the Mongolians used the Latin-derived name of Jesus (Jesus, with a pronounced e) compared to the Kalmyk, which uses Isus (of the Orthodox tradition) since Catholicism took root there easily even in the Communist era as only in Mongolia, you can be guaranteed protection from religious persecution, unlike in other Communist countries like China and the USSR.

    • @ozejjj
      @ozejjj Рік тому +2

      But They are predominantly Buddhist

  • @nadirhikmetkuleli
    @nadirhikmetkuleli Рік тому +6

    The very name Kalmyk is a Turkic name. It derives from the verb Kal- (to stay, to stay behind, to remain). Kalmyk means the one who stayed behind.

    • @nadirhikmetkuleli
      @nadirhikmetkuleli Рік тому +1

      @@kalmyk0874 That is a modern revisionism. The first people that used the word were neighboring Turks.

    • @nadirhikmetkuleli
      @nadirhikmetkuleli Рік тому +2

      @@kalmyk0874 No you did not, Before adapting the name Kalmyk from Turkic languges, each tribe was called with tribal name, however, there was a consirable awareness of being Öörd (Oirat) confederation of Mongols. You were calling yourselves first with your tribal name, second with the name Oirat. However, after 1600s, you adopted Turkic name and became Kalmyks. Then you founded Kalmyk Khanate with Russian help. Stop revisionism. Deal with the fact that you are Mongolian remnants in the west, thus you are called Kalmyk (remnant, those who stayed behind, those who did not turn back to Mongolia) in Turkic.

    • @nadirhikmetkuleli
      @nadirhikmetkuleli Рік тому +2

      @@kalmyk0874 Kalmuk and Kalmyk are variants of the same Turkic name.
      In different dialects of Turkic, there is an inconsistency about if it is u or y in the words beginning with K. For example
      Some Turkic dialects Kavurmak and some others Kavyrmak ( to roast),
      Some Turkic dialects Kavushmak and some others Kavyshmak ( to meet)
      Some Turkic dialects kavun and some others kavyn (melon)
      It is the exactly same pattern. In old Turkic u variants were more widespread, most of modern Turkic dialects have y variants.
      K to G change is also common among Turkic dialects, Avars must have taken the very name from a G dialect.
      For example In many Turkic languages kel- but in some, especially among Oghuz Turkic gel- (to come)
      In many Turkic languages kal - ( to stay, to stay behind, to remain) but in some Turkic dialects it is gal-
      Russians also took the word from Turkic people.

    • @hoolidii
      @hoolidii Рік тому +8

      Nahh bro as a mongolian listen to that kalmyk person. Bcs Kalmyk is how Russians made Halmig ppl to write their name. Again same goes for Buryats. Buryatia is such an Russian name. Mongol person would say Buriad.

    • @hoolidii
      @hoolidii Рік тому +4

      ​@@nadirhikmetkulelithey got the name halimag bcs they survived genocide and moved there. But when they got there (who ever were left) were mixed. Some of the tribes were literally destroyed. Which made them mix with each other. And that's how they got the name Halimag.

  • @michuXYZ
    @michuXYZ Рік тому +1

    Is it just me being weird or there is some fino-ugric vibe in those languages haha

  • @garawaa5411
    @garawaa5411 Рік тому

    Western mongolian dielects actually more turkic related. For example: mongolian word hüh - blue in Western mongolian kük, in mongolian honi-sheep in w.m: hoi, koi... and so on

  • @borgilbatbaatar7683
    @borgilbatbaatar7683 11 місяців тому +1

    This guy with Korean accent kills my mother language

  • @Illuminat-ve5ue
    @Illuminat-ve5ue Рік тому +2

    Kalmyk just sounds like drunken mongolian with half of the tongue paralysed to me, no offense meant
    Or like mongolian, but russian pronounciation on some words.

    • @floridaliving9329
      @floridaliving9329 Рік тому +1

      That's a normal effect that being exposed to a language very similar to your own has on people. In reality, Kalmyk language just retains more of the characteristics of Middle Mongolian, that's why it sounds different than modern Mongolian.

  • @МикаЭминов
    @МикаЭминов 10 місяців тому +1

    Монгольский смешной