Lee Haney(1991) Vs Ronnie Coleman(1998)

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
  • This is a picture comparison between two of the greatest bodybuilders of all time. Both Lee Haney and Ronnie Coleman have won 8 Mr.Olympia titles, which is a record. This will be the first match I have had between these two so it should be interesting. I used the 1991 Haney and the 1998 Coleman, both Olympia versions.
    / sunnywarcloud0601

КОМЕНТАРІ • 622

  • @autismwalk6855
    @autismwalk6855 3 роки тому +330

    Lee Haney looks better overall to me. His symmetry and shape was awesome! Plus, he trained very smart and is completely healthy even today in his 60s.

    • @bigdan9850
      @bigdan9850 3 роки тому +22

      It's crazy how wide Ronnie's shoulders are, but because of the thickness of his waist.... Lee Haney absolutely looks like he is just as wide. With that tiny a$$ waist of his! I think it was around 28"!

    • @gabrielfernandez8111
      @gabrielfernandez8111 3 роки тому +19

      @@bigdan9850 Haney is wider than Ron. I have seen Ron in person and he is not that wide at all, moreover, in a natural position, his shoulders go too down. He has a very small head and looks wider than he really is. Of course Ron looks very wide is you compare him with Flex who had a tiny frame, but is not wider than Haney, and narrower for example, tahn Jay or Nasser (Os course Jay has also wide hips, as Ramy, but he is very wide in the clavicles).

    • @JA_WILL
      @JA_WILL 3 роки тому +7

      Indeed -- I see Lee and his wife walking at the track sometimes. As a man of GOD he has done the correct things over the years and enjoys great health.

    • @zigman69ify
      @zigman69ify 3 роки тому

      Well said AW!

    • @dudedude7650
      @dudedude7650 3 роки тому +13

      @@gabrielfernandez8111 lol Ronnie isn’t that wide? That’s pretty funny

  • @ovathere93
    @ovathere93 3 роки тому +184

    Someone here said it perfect, Ronnie would win the show, but Lee's physique is more desirable.

    • @danny.4506
      @danny.4506 3 роки тому +5

      If I had to pick a body and have it for a day I’ll choose Ronnie his legs are
      Massive and he’s more ripped

    • @berthadelone8544
      @berthadelone8544 3 роки тому +10

      That doesn't even make any sense.

    • @TheGhost668
      @TheGhost668 3 роки тому +5

      Ronnie with that alien physique

    • @joshwaterman5526
      @joshwaterman5526 3 роки тому +14

      @@berthadelone8544 how? Ronnie’s body is definitely not desirable for most people. He looks like a mutant.

    • @mariogullette4795
      @mariogullette4795 3 роки тому +8

      IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE COMPETION & WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR

  • @geovaniefloresnaturalbodyb701
    @geovaniefloresnaturalbodyb701 3 роки тому +22

    Lee haney retired at 31 with 8 olympias that's fucking insane. Guys today are starting at 31

    • @kasperisaukkonen
      @kasperisaukkonen 9 місяців тому +1

      People consider 31 young as bodybuilder

    • @danielhicks4826
      @danielhicks4826 11 днів тому

      He retired at 31? that's bloody absurd, what the heck man. What is lacking today like how do you get muscle maturity and striations and etc.? what are a lot of the new generation guys doing wrong I wonder in some ways, but anyways yeah that is ridiculous man to win 8 fricking titles by your 31st birthday what the heck.

  • @bjf5027
    @bjf5027 Рік тому +13

    This was WAY closer than I would have thought. Haney was amazing

  • @donbiggs3854
    @donbiggs3854 3 роки тому +19

    Lee Haney all the way Lee Haney all the way ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

  • @stevelynchbodybuilding
    @stevelynchbodybuilding 8 місяців тому +8

    Lee Haney gets overlooked at times and that is criminal. His genetics for bodybuilding are elite of elite. Plus the man is still healthy, looks great, and shows no signs of stopping. He did it right!

  • @jerardnijel
    @jerardnijel 3 роки тому +42

    Lee had the best physique ever of any Mr Olympia

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +8

      That means you don't care about balance; he had an excellent torso that always dwarfed mediocre arms and legs

    • @willthomas7666
      @willthomas7666 2 роки тому

      Ronnie smokes him my guy

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому

      ronnie coleman for sure crazy massive.better thighs for sure.

    • @amaanshaikh6868
      @amaanshaikh6868 Рік тому +1

      Arnold

  • @JamesAHollandMusic
    @JamesAHollandMusic 3 роки тому +61

    Haney all day! His physique was massive and so very beautiful. Ronnie was just so big but his physique wasn’t as aesthetically pleasing.

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +1

      His torso was great; and completely dwarfed the mediocre arms and legs

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому +1

      coleman,freaky mass,and ripped as well,changed bodybuilding.

    • @ThouSwell-zx3fd
      @ThouSwell-zx3fd 27 днів тому

      ​@@hardcorehouseHaney at the beginning of his pro career had *tiny* arms. I mean conspicuously tiny. He actually really brought his arms during his Olympia reign. Kudos to him 👍

  • @lindsrt1
    @lindsrt1 3 роки тому +31

    I like Lee in front double bicep

  • @lesnuitssanskimwilde883
    @lesnuitssanskimwilde883 3 роки тому +113

    You have to wonder how big haney's back would have been with the all the modern drugs.

    • @williameriksson9915
      @williameriksson9915 3 роки тому +5

      The human body can only pack on so much size and he lacked pretty much 40 pounds in the arms and legs so the back wouldn’t have been much bigger. It’s like the chest it was as big then as now because now they are bigger because they focus the extra time and energy on other body parts

    • @aamirayub8465
      @aamirayub8465 3 роки тому +3

      Roney coleman win all day

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 3 роки тому +3

      @@aamirayub8465
      No way Coleman had no flow or balance. He had crap calves. Should never have won 1 Olympia let alone 8. Its bodybuilding. They have forgotten what that means. Or you may aswell get a 350lb wrestler up in there.

    • @88KUNGFUMAN
      @88KUNGFUMAN 3 роки тому +2

      I think drugs had less to do with it. If Haney trained even if only for a year with the intensity of a Dorian or Ronnie..it's truly insane what he would have brought to the table!

    • @mike2207
      @mike2207 3 роки тому +3

      @@fender1000100 complete bullcrap.

  • @Tain950
    @Tain950 3 роки тому +83

    Ronnie Coleman was just on another level than Haney. Ronnie took bodybuilding to a level that we might not see undone in our lifetime.

    • @johnhumble4240
      @johnhumble4240 3 роки тому +20

      That’s not true
      Ronnie was bigger thats about it
      Haney won the teenage America
      NPC nationals
      My universe overall
      And 8 Sandows and retired at 31 ?
      Broke the record Arnold held
      Then Ronnie tied Haney years later
      Ronnie never did anything close to that
      Haney is the GOAT

    • @TheGhost668
      @TheGhost668 3 роки тому +9

      @@johnhumble4240 yeah, haney was never in the goat debate. Ronnie crushes him

    • @samueljudah9136
      @samueljudah9136 3 роки тому +13

      @@johnhumble4240 There is a reason Mr. Haney's name is not mentioned as often As the other great bodybuilders . Political

    • @johnhumble4240
      @johnhumble4240 3 роки тому +3

      Haney broke the record
      And win every major amateur show nationally and globally including the teenage Mr. America
      Ronnie is bigger
      But Phils wins and resume blow him away
      Ronnie never did that

    • @johnhumble4240
      @johnhumble4240 3 роки тому +11

      @@TheGhost668 it’s not about size
      In that aspect your right Ronnie wins
      But Haney’s resume of wins and retired at 31 stands alone
      Take care

  • @ericbutton222
    @ericbutton222 3 роки тому +11

    Bigger isn't all ways better or more beautifull
    Thank you max for making that clear

  • @johnorourke7484
    @johnorourke7484 3 роки тому +26

    Lee was 250 plus and could have gotten bigger if he had to but he didn't need to Ronnie is just mass his structure isn't very appealing

    • @scottish__beard8856
      @scottish__beard8856 3 роки тому +5

      Lee was actually 248lbs in 91 and ronnie was the same here in 98, plus their heights are almost the same, so they are very comparable to one another!

    • @PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork
      @PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork 3 роки тому +2

      @@scottish__beard8856 they did not weigh them in the 90’s if I am not mistaken....so 248 is not official....I might be wrong but they stopped weigh them in the 80’s preshow

    • @scottish__beard8856
      @scottish__beard8856 3 роки тому +3

      @@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork No they were still weighed even back then. Lee haney was 243 at his first olympia and as stated, he was 248 at his last olympia making him the heaviest olympia champ ever at the time! He was never the most conditoned guy back then but he was so dominant based off size and structure alone!

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +1

      Those pics are misleading; look at Haney on video and it's always clear the excellent torso dwarfs the mediocre arms and legs

  • @tomwillard7446
    @tomwillard7446 2 роки тому +33

    Omg.... I feel ashamed for almost forgetting about how good Lee was . really appreciation for the show .wow good stuff......... LEE HANEY REALLY HAD NO WEAK POINT, AND NOT ONLY THAT HE HAD PERFECT CEMETERY. Put him onstage with anybody, better yet, all of the greats in there prime and the judges and the poor judges would be scratching their heads and thinking he matches up very well with anybody period. onstage not pictures.

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому

      if anything calves

    • @Tankpacqikcao
      @Tankpacqikcao 11 місяців тому

      LEE HANEY to me is the Goat,
      For some, Coleman is the Goat.
      But i cant stand Dorian yates, the moment he knew he was going to be dethroned, he left the sport. In his PRIME. Thats like keeping your undefeated record intact and unchallenged.

    • @kayson7469
      @kayson7469 8 місяців тому

      ​@@TankpacqikcaoLee wanted to retire with 7 title to tie him with Arnold but his wife convince him to get 8. That's the only reason he retired. Lee would of came in with better condition like he did for 8 years in a row🤔

  • @gabrielfernandez8111
    @gabrielfernandez8111 3 роки тому +35

    In my opinion. The front double biceps of Haney is maybe the best ever. Id does not matter he had not great biceps, but that V taper, and that flow... impressive.

  • @mariogullette4795
    @mariogullette4795 3 роки тому +31

    LEE HANEY IS #1. BECAUSE HE WAS & STILL IS TOTAL"LEE"AWESOME

    • @TheGhost668
      @TheGhost668 3 роки тому

      He cant match up with the king

    • @mariogullette4795
      @mariogullette4795 3 роки тому +1

      TOTAL"LEE"AWESOME HANEY, ALREADY MATCHED UP BY RETIRING AN UNDEFEATED MR. OLYMPIA

    • @samraizshoaib585
      @samraizshoaib585 3 роки тому

      @@mariogullette4795 And everyone knows it's because Haney saw Dorian and knew he'd be beaten.

    • @mariogullette4795
      @mariogullette4795 3 роки тому

      @@samraizshoaib585 HANEY BEAT YATES IN HIS 8TH & FINAL 1991 OLYMPIA VICTORY ENOUGH SAID, TOTA "LEE"HANEY DID WHAT HE NEED TO DO IN HIS CAREER DURING HIS OLYMPIA ERA FROM 1984-1991

    • @samraizshoaib585
      @samraizshoaib585 3 роки тому

      @@mariogullette4795 When Yates was just starting out.... And Yates beat him in the muscularity round. Haney won the symmetry and Posing rounds.

  • @ihavewaited90daystochangem51
    @ihavewaited90daystochangem51 3 роки тому +71

    Lee looks better, but ronnie would win in a contest. Simple as that really.

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 3 роки тому +7

      i don't even think lee looks better

    • @JMS1089
      @JMS1089 3 роки тому +4

      Look at ronnie coleman 1995 grand prix Russia. Pretty complete and balanced imo. 1996 grand prix germany too.

    • @JMS1089
      @JMS1089 3 роки тому

      @@MikeG82 lee looks great in these pictures, but in the actual footage he looks very top heavy. Still incredible physique though.

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 3 роки тому +4

      @Nikos Alpha lee's is unbalanced with a chest that looks like breasts and arms and legs too small, lee's abs aren't good either
      he was easily the best of his weak era but is overrated otherwise, he wasn't aesthetic and not good enough to compete with the best of the 90's

    • @rogerrousco2921
      @rogerrousco2921 3 роки тому +13

      @@MikeG82 rubbish.

  • @REVOisMYname
    @REVOisMYname 3 роки тому +9

    Lee Haney could have won a few more. 93 Dorian would have been tough, but the Olympia reigning champ dictates the judging criteria

  • @idafreedman7694
    @idafreedman7694 3 роки тому +19

    Lee Haney was the best of the best. My idle

    • @jeremynathan7
      @jeremynathan7 3 роки тому +1

      I think you mean idol bro. Idle means something that isn't moving

    • @idafreedman7694
      @idafreedman7694 3 роки тому +2

      @@jeremynathan7 at least I got my point across about the fact I am still a great fan to Lee Haney

  • @torynichols2413
    @torynichols2413 3 роки тому +8

    Ronnie was old school training with modern day drugs

  • @TheChismFamily
    @TheChismFamily Рік тому +2

    I prefer the look of Lee Haney but Ronnie Outmuscles him in all poses. Lee never used GH or Insulin so thats part of it, but also why his waist is so slim in comparison.

  • @soulsergeant
    @soulsergeant 3 роки тому +19

    Haney was 31 when he retired with 8. When Ronnie was 31 he had zero Sandows. No comparison. Haney would have continued to improve.

    • @prettyboychilds
      @prettyboychilds 3 роки тому +7

      thats the most stupid comment i have ever seen haha what has age got to do with it? Lee won so many because he started his bodybuilding career when he was alot younger and ronnie didnt start til he was much older!! it does not matter how many you have at a certain age it matters how many you have when you retire! haney bitched out and ran when dorian come on the scene he didnt want that smoke against dorian flex leverone etc the following year,he new his reign was coming to an end so he retired! lee beat midgets his whole career he out weighted his opponents like labrada by 40lbs etc and he was so much taller it was ridiculous advantage was not fair at all! when he was finally up against people his own size and that could match him he retired. Hes still one of the greats but what a stupid comment haha

    • @megaman7954
      @megaman7954 3 роки тому +6

      Please don’t make a fool out of yourself. Would Lee Haney been able to beat Dorian? Probably not, but get real Lee Haney would’ve continued to improve with the advancing of drugs and had plenty of more time to do so. He retired young so he could live more desirably without major injuries or having to push the drugs even further. He already had beat Arnold’s 7 , he didn’t need to push it any further.

    • @rogerrousco2921
      @rogerrousco2921 3 роки тому +2

      @@prettyboychilds ridiculously stupid comment from you wow.

    • @richrich876
      @richrich876 3 роки тому +1

      Bodybuilders peak in their 30's
      Lee retired before his body peaked.
      Even his last year was much better than the prior years.. (1990 doesn't count)

    • @menknurlan
      @menknurlan 3 роки тому +5

      @@prettyboychilds lee beat dorian in 91 and wouldve beat him in 92 too if he'd stayed. He was tired of winning.

  • @jason5409
    @jason5409 2 роки тому +7

    Never realized how well Haney stacks up against Coleman. I'd give it to Haney on aesthetics.

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +2

      Those pics are actually a little misleading; look at haney on film and there are large imbalance between the excellent torso and mediocre arms and legs

    • @bigd7696
      @bigd7696 Рік тому

      @@hardcorehouse You forgot to mention Ronnies grossly oversized thighs, huge distended gut, tiny calves, and flat chest in the FDB.

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse Рік тому +1

      @@bigd7696 depending on the year, some of that’s true. With Haney, the great torso *always* overwhelmed the other 2/3s including weak ass arms, thighs, calves. Putrid, almost comical imbalances.

  • @travelreview5962
    @travelreview5962 3 роки тому +5

    Ya'll know if Ronnie saw this comparison he'd give it to Haney... right? Ronnie respected him so much and in any interview he does he will never let us forget that Lee Haney is the best to ever steroids on stage..👍

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому +2

      both steroid users,lee was taking equipoise,race horse roids. coleman probably growth hormones sth

  • @missionfitness7933
    @missionfitness7933 3 роки тому +6

    Both of these men were way ahead of all of their peers during their reign.

  • @RomarioFouardo
    @RomarioFouardo 3 роки тому +15

    Man ...Lee Haney was a class, unbelievable

  • @kaanfurkankan269
    @kaanfurkankan269 3 роки тому +15

    He is bashing ronnie again as always

    • @ArtyomAnna
      @ArtyomAnna 3 роки тому +2

      yeah one would think Ronnie slept with his sister or something

    • @lowbodyfat6707
      @lowbodyfat6707 3 роки тому +1

      the guy has a horrible eye, and probably doesnt even lift weights himself.

    • @mohammadsufian7890
      @mohammadsufian7890 3 роки тому +2

      Haney was better in this video though

  • @jbeechuk
    @jbeechuk 3 роки тому +4

    I’ll go against the grain here.....Haney had the better overall look. Sure, Coleman has more muscle, but after his first couple Mr. O wins, he started to get a bloated midsection that ruined his look. By his last win, Coleman looked pretty bad. Haney was the repeat Mr. O winner who looked his absolute best in his last year.

  • @Danny-uz9zb
    @Danny-uz9zb 3 роки тому +9

    I was never a fan of Lee's physique. By that, I mean to say that his isn't my ideal of the perfect physique. 1973 Arnold or 1991 Francis Benfatto to me are much more aesthetic. That being said, Lee deserved all his Olympia titles whereas Ronnie was gifted some of his later Mr.O's.....just as Dorian and Jay were.

    • @combatesdeboxeo
      @combatesdeboxeo Рік тому

      Hahaha nice Joke, Haney had a much better body than Arnold

  • @NemeanLion-
    @NemeanLion- 3 роки тому +3

    Yates lost to Haney before he discovered hgh. I can’t imagine what Lee would look like with the stuff of the late 90’s.

  • @brucesguitardemos8197
    @brucesguitardemos8197 6 місяців тому +2

    Lee Haney all day , Ronnie is a legend still ❤

  • @Bigbencher
    @Bigbencher 3 роки тому +3

    Great comparison. Prefer Lee overall but both great champions

  • @tankhank7511
    @tankhank7511 3 роки тому +22

    In that FDB pose, Haney OWNS Ronnie. That's the best FDB of Haney I've ever seen - arms actually don't look so weak like most other FDB pics of him. His wide sweeping lats, abs, torso killing Ronnie. It takes more than just biceps to win the FDB pose. Haney had a unique quality that many don't have - he had that Arnold-like chest where in the FDB pose, his chest doesn't "disappear" - meaning you can still see the lower pec line/fullness almost as if his arms aren't even raised.

    • @doublem1975x
      @doublem1975x 2 роки тому +6

      Haney’s 18 inch arms are way too small to beat Ronnie in FDB regardless of how good his torso is.

    • @willthomas7666
      @willthomas7666 2 роки тому +2

      LOL.ronnie smokes him and in that pose,if you stood them next to each other the difference would be even more glaring,he would dwarf Haney in muscularity

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому +1

      ronnie coleman was just too massive.a freak

  • @russellmiller823
    @russellmiller823 3 роки тому +26

    Both Lee and Ronnie are VERY genetically gifted... Much like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee possesses a ton of unexploited potential with the old school supplementation when compared to preparation of today's mass monsters... Ronnie was part of a completely different era altogether and was still able to pick up 8 coveted Mr. O titles... Both are equal in my book any day...

    • @DanielPerez-er7nu
      @DanielPerez-er7nu 2 роки тому

      coleman had better competition'

    • @earlcoles5215
      @earlcoles5215 Рік тому

      ​@@DanielPerez-er7nutrue, Lee had no competition

    • @oRealAlieNo
      @oRealAlieNo Рік тому

      Ronniehad gyno

    • @oRealAlieNo
      @oRealAlieNo Рік тому

      His aerola looks full of milk

    • @earlcoles5215
      @earlcoles5215 Рік тому

      @@oRealAlieNofirst off: who the fuc asked you about his gyno, and secondly: that was only one year, and thirdly: the one time he had gyno , the judges still felt he looked better than than Wheeler, ray, El sonbaty and Levrone... So keep take that haterism to another channel.. nobody cares

  • @jrsgarage3244
    @jrsgarage3244 11 місяців тому +2

    💯Lee Haney is #1 Best ever , very clearly shows Undefeated Champion 🚩

  • @michaelschlageter8381
    @michaelschlageter8381 8 місяців тому +1

    This double bicep pose of Haney is perfect... Everything matches.....

  •  2 роки тому +2

    Lee's rear delts are insane!

  • @williammcclelland6789
    @williammcclelland6789 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! Awesome matchup.

  • @neerajmradul
    @neerajmradul 3 роки тому +17

    Coleman has brought body building to a different level which is impossible to beat.

    • @AndrewHarriston
      @AndrewHarriston Рік тому +2

      Totally agree but also because of his inhumane training he is unfortunately left in a wheel chair with many physical problems. Lee on the other hand is pretty much in good health for his age.

    • @bigd7696
      @bigd7696 Рік тому +1

      If we brought actual proportion and shape back to judging it would be impossible for a Coleman to win.

    • @jamiehurtt3530
      @jamiehurtt3530 6 місяців тому

      Thats true the Bubble gut gh bellies

    • @franciscoblanco6539
      @franciscoblanco6539 5 місяців тому

      To an unhealthy level that we don't want see again.

  • @CarpeDiem23
    @CarpeDiem23 3 роки тому +6

    I must say that these sizes aren't totally accurate, because Lee wasn't this big compared to Ronnie from 98, they are literally same size on most pictures here which is not case in reality..just check heads comparison on some photos.. btw you are pretty good with editing in general 👍

  • @RTTVMARLONSHILLINGFORD
    @RTTVMARLONSHILLINGFORD 3 роки тому +1

    I am a big fan of both guys,great video!👍

  • @olegariomartinez6807
    @olegariomartinez6807 3 роки тому +25

    Having seen both in person it would've been no contest. Coleman would dominate Haney. Pictures do not tell the whole story.

    • @miloskuzmanovic
      @miloskuzmanovic 3 роки тому +5

      This is 98. Coleman... Ronnie 2003...

    • @kevinasher4577
      @kevinasher4577 3 роки тому +5

      Having sat down at the Olympia and ate with both of them Lee stated he never went over 275 on squats or went heavy in general. While Ronnie went balls out on everything he did. Lee had a much fuller chest more dominant lats from the front and smaller waist!! Ronnie had bigger arms bigger legs and glutes for days ! As far as who was better they are both the kings of bodybuilding, straight up Kings. Both are true gentleman and people have to realize lee Haney won 8 Mr Os and retired at 32 or 33 years old.. No winner here Lee was TotalLee awesome and Ronnie is and always will be The Unbelievable.......

    • @hardcorehouse
      @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +2

      Few here noticing that those pics are misleading; look at them on video and haneys excellent torso always dwarfs the mediocre arms and legs

    • @alexanderhall3064
      @alexanderhall3064 2 роки тому +2

      I wish I knew Lee Haney never went above 275 lbs squatting. I busted my back and knees squatting between 315 and 375. I thought it was the way to go.

    • @willthomas7666
      @willthomas7666 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly, I said the same thing,ppl compare pics and think it was close,when in reality if you stood the 2 of them together it's not even REMOTELY close, Ronnie would make him look half the size he really is,he was an alien

  • @alexandruene4247
    @alexandruene4247 3 роки тому +7

    Victor Martinez 2007 Mr.O vs Kevin around 1997 big and full

  • @SeanScorpion
    @SeanScorpion 2 роки тому +2

    Until today I assumed Lee was a smaller guy. I think it's because he has such a damn big head. I'm very impressed about how big Lee's pecs are and how well he stacks up against King Ron over all.

  • @travelreview5962
    @travelreview5962 3 роки тому +2

    Yall remember Haneys last win where a young Dorian stood next to him and completely held his own? Well, then Dorian gained 25lbs of muscle... and he was still 30lbs lighter than Ronnie, at the same height. These Pictures are unintentionally misleading...Ronnie has 50lbs of muscle on Haney and they are the same height.

  • @ninocaric5454
    @ninocaric5454 3 роки тому +5

    Haney quit when he was just 31 years old.

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 3 роки тому +8

    Lee Haney was mass with class. He had balanced legs with full hamstrings and great calves. I would say he was my winner. Just saying! 😁

  • @KhemBMD
    @KhemBMD 3 роки тому +2

    Two most winningest mr o’s with the most winningest attitudes, crazy isn’t it

  • @imsquishy7209
    @imsquishy7209 3 роки тому +3

    You should do all Mr.Olympias and see who comes out on top. If it's possible or do a tournament style bracket.

  • @swolepatrol2139
    @swolepatrol2139 3 роки тому +3

    One of Lees sayings train to stimulate not annihilate. Ronnie completely annihilated his body.

    • @mariogullette4795
      @mariogullette4795 2 роки тому

      LEE DID HIS JOB, LIKE A MODEL CHAMPION DURING ERA ( MY CHILDHOOD) FROM 1984-1991 AS THAT'S ERA'S REIGNING 8*MR.OLYMPIA, HE WAS & STILL IS TOTAL"LEE"AWESOME HANEY!

  • @hardcorehouse
    @hardcorehouse 2 роки тому +1

    Selected pics can easily be misleading; watch haney on video and it's always clear that the excellent torso always dwarfs the mediocre arms and legs

  • @El_Superhombre_Blanco
    @El_Superhombre_Blanco 3 роки тому +42

    Pre-thong bodybuilding for the win

  • @ajpitts1
    @ajpitts1 3 роки тому +2

    V-taper on Lee Haney in the front double bi is ridiculous

  • @NeerujSethi
    @NeerujSethi 2 роки тому

    Good matchup and I liked the way you handled your outcome. Great video

  • @BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
    @BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 3 роки тому +1

    Bro, you totally lose me on the front double bicep critique. Ronnie does not even compare to the aesthetics of Lee, I am sorry. Better take a second look. Don't let size totally obscure your judgement.

  • @harmonizinginjoy
    @harmonizinginjoy 3 роки тому

    Love the vids. Thanks mate :)

  • @spankybighead7135
    @spankybighead7135 Рік тому +2

    One of Lee's best poses is the front double bicep pose Marx. He was known as the Leviathan Torso because of his tiny waist and flaring lats.

  • @bigstink9
    @bigstink9 3 роки тому +2

    The front double biceps is one of Lee's worst poses??lol
    Since when?? That was his signature pose IMO.

    • @bigstink9
      @bigstink9 3 роки тому

      @Dj_M1
      Historically, I agree.
      But for the 1980s, Lee's legs and arms weren't considered weaknesses, even if they weren't 'great'.

  • @prathamesh4901
    @prathamesh4901 3 роки тому +1

    If haney continued his reign then bodybuilding wouldve extincted then.......ronnie took the sport to another level and haney never deserved to share the 8x olympia wins with ronnie....ronnie is way beyond his reach

    • @franciscoblanco6539
      @franciscoblanco6539 5 місяців тому

      Ronnie took the sport to another unhealthy level that we don't want to see anymore.

  • @Iceman-xe7jo
    @Iceman-xe7jo 3 роки тому +13

    Haney had some of the lowest hanging lats I have ever seen. He could fly them!

  • @bobbarlow114
    @bobbarlow114 Рік тому +1

    Before and after insulin, I prefer Haney; the best !!! With respect to Coleman's gigantic size

  • @paulcox2447
    @paulcox2447 8 місяців тому

    This shows just how gifted Lee Haney was. It's hard to match certain qualities of Ronnie. The massive ribcage, huge chest, the fullness, the detail, the lat thickness and sweep. Genetic qualities where even if guys get to Ronnie's size, it looks nothing like them. Lee Haney has these qualities.
    If he had stayed around and was willing to mass up with Dorian it could have been Jay and Ronnie before Jay and Ronnie :) After winning 8 in a row before 30 though, I can't blame him at all for wanting to do something else.

  • @danny.4506
    @danny.4506 3 роки тому +2

    Wow 🤩 lee Haney back is insane

  • @athlenick1502
    @athlenick1502 2 місяці тому

    A lot of Lee critics might not know that Haney made a conscious decision not to participate in the new chemical warfare (as he called it in an interview) Dorian brought to the scene. A logical decision since he had already a record number of wins and was mindful about his health. If he would have started using similar drugs as Dorian, he probably would have blown up in size since he was only 31 and had a frame that could put on more size.

  • @Putnamballa
    @Putnamballa 3 роки тому +2

    Lee Haney!!!

  • @FlexWheeler2nd
    @FlexWheeler2nd 4 місяці тому

    These two are from completely different eras of bodybuilding. Lee’s era was about aesthetics and balance. Even when he faced bigger competition, he always won out because he had then best overall package. After this era, starting with Dorian and continuing with Ronnie, the aesthetics didn’t matter. If It were in the 80’s, Shawn would’ve beaten Dorian and Flex would’ve beaten Ronnie.

  • @saint.vitus.7775
    @saint.vitus.7775 Рік тому

    Great job with this - i'm sure it's not easy. I do think most of the Haney photos were a bit over-sized by a little bit - but then again - they were both 5'11" - so maybe you nailed it.

  • @ken12345garcia
    @ken12345garcia Рік тому

    I chose Haney but Ronnie is right there. This a pick between two different eras. I like the more natural look of the 60s to 91. After that everything is good just preference. Thanks Marx. Can't argue with this one.

  • @kinggeorge90
    @kinggeorge90 Рік тому

    Lee Haney looks phenomenal, but he gets absolutely SMOKED in that side chest. Didn't realize how weak his delts and arms were. Even for that era, his delts and arms were tiny compared to the rest of his physique.

  • @bigdan9850
    @bigdan9850 3 роки тому

    Opens up like an umbrella!!!LOVE IT!! @marxmaxmuscle this has to be an original?

  • @bentattersfield7987
    @bentattersfield7987 3 роки тому +2

    Both men overwhelmed their competitors with size really, and then reaped the subsequent Sandows, with a few notable exceptions (e.g. Ruhl, Schlierkampf in 2002, Fuchs etc). None of them had the definition usually though.

  • @bigdan9850
    @bigdan9850 3 роки тому +1

    IMHO, Lee Haney has the perfect combination of Classic Old School Bodybuding and Modern Day Bodybuilding!! Tiny a$$ waist, huge lats, that give him one of the best V-Taper's of all time. We always see best body part of all time, lets see best V-Taper of all time! Please!

  • @bobbiethomas5137
    @bobbiethomas5137 11 місяців тому

    It took me a moment realize you were saying legs! Not lags, I had no idea what lags were, I thought it was a bodybuilding term! 🤣😃

  • @tixodioktisdeviant46
    @tixodioktisdeviant46 8 місяців тому

    Let's be honest, it is not only that the criteria have changed, it is also that the "vitamins" have changed as well, and drastically at that. You cannot compare athletes Pre vs Post GH.

  • @Nightdiver20
    @Nightdiver20 7 місяців тому

    Ronnie is enormous but Lee is just so much more aesthetic

  • @jerseyhomepro
    @jerseyhomepro 9 місяців тому +1

    Modest test vs full stack plus growth hormone and diuretics. Also in Haney's time legs didn't need to be oversized.

  • @jimmybanta4520
    @jimmybanta4520 3 роки тому

    Is it safe to assume these are your favorite versions of each individual ps it sounds like u say lags A to my ear 👂🏻 good work on these very entertained

    • @jbeechuk
      @jbeechuk 3 роки тому

      Yeah, he says “lags”.

  • @Man_After_Jesus
    @Man_After_Jesus 3 роки тому +1

    Many are saying they are not the same size; 91 Haney and 98 Ronnie were around the same weight. Ronnie is great for sure but even Ronnie will say Lee is the GOAT.
    Lee’s era had a whole different criteria for the Olympia winner, which was not massive legs or arms -just ask Tom Platz & Bretil Fox. Lee was the cumulation of the past era’s in the best package at the time.
    Remember Lee was nearly 250 on stage weight in 91 with a tiny waist. In the pictures you can see the torso of Lee is massive which coupled with the tiny waist make his arm appear tiny. However, In the side tricep the arm size almost evens out.
    Lee was unique in that his genetics were of the type that he could give the judges any physique they deemed to be Olympia worthy.
    Facts:
    He dominated like no other, some say his competitors were lack luster but they were the best in the world; Lee was so dominant that everyone else showed up for 2nd place.
    (Who else did we see do this? Ronnie in the mid part of his run was unbeatable everyone knew it was a 2nd place show for the rest of line up)
    Lee retired at 31! With nothing to prove no where left to go in achievements. We never saw a truly peaked Lee Haney - there were more years of improvement left but no more records to be broken. He left in good health, no injuries and many years later no surgeries or organ failures. He won it all!!
    Potential:
    If Lee came in 91 shape (no improvement) to the 92 Olympia, he would have won. 93 Dorian would win. 1994 Lee with the new drug protocol, adds 5-8 pounds of muscle in the legs and gets detail in the back - game over for the next 3-4 years. 35 year old Haney still improving with newer drugs and better understanding of nutrition would have likely dominated the 90’s except for 93. After Dorian let the cat out the bag Lee would crush him the next year and forward - why because Lee has the best Genetics ,except for Sergio, for BB in what we’ve seen competing. Staying consistent in BB is very hard, getting bigger is easier. Lee was so consistent over his run, careful not to add to much size or destroy the flow of his physique with his good posing. Once that criteria was thrown out the window and only size and conditioning matter, Lee would destroy because of Genetics. He can be anywhere in the spectrum of what is required for a Olympia title, we have seen thus far.

  • @reachvictoria3386
    @reachvictoria3386 2 роки тому +1

    Lee Haney has an athletic look, like he could play any physical sport well. Ronnie, by contrast, looks like it’s hard for him to even move. Both are impressive in their own way.

  • @JACKPOTTT777
    @JACKPOTTT777 7 місяців тому

    Never realized how big Haney actually was ... people be comparing him to men's physique lmao are yall serious ?

  • @chicago618
    @chicago618 Рік тому

    Wait, you think that double front bicep pose is Haney’s worst? You’re kidding right? That is a magnificent pose and he takes that against Coleman easily, easily. I’m hesitant to finish the rest of this video but I will.

  • @88KUNGFUMAN
    @88KUNGFUMAN 3 роки тому +1

    Still would give it to Haney..his arms and legs were in greater balance to eachother.. Waist smaller. Ronnies upper traps were too big. Haneys thighs were better separated.

  • @martinlaser7819
    @martinlaser7819 Рік тому

    Ronnie smiled when asked why Lee's muscles didn't really grow and said while laughing::
    "Perhaps he'd needed a little rectal injection or a small enema."
    So the king.

  • @alexanderhall3064
    @alexanderhall3064 2 роки тому

    I know I’m going to get blasted for this but Lee Haney was a much more aesthetic and had a more pleasing look. Ronnie, just like Dorian just upped their HGH dosages. Haney improved his physique every year from 1983 until he retired.

    • @stevemann1299
      @stevemann1299 4 місяці тому

      Don't agree with that. Haney had 3 outstanding years
      84
      85
      91
      The other 5 especially 90. He was off. His BACK won him 8 olympias. Everything else was average or mediocre. He had poor abs underpar legs..
      That said he was better than the GH era..

  • @chrislong1287
    @chrislong1287 3 роки тому +1

    Ronnie would win on stage but, Haneys physique is just beautiful

  • @sarabdeepak5559
    @sarabdeepak5559 3 роки тому +1

    I think Lee Haney was a bit taller than Ronnie Coleman and that would definitely reduce the size gap when taken into consideration

  • @libertyanunion
    @libertyanunion 3 роки тому

    I tried to find the lags in either one but couldn’t??!?

  • @muscl3beard
    @muscl3beard 2 місяці тому

    Each dominating olympia champion brings something absolutely new to the stage. The next step in bodybuilding. Something that changes the game forever such that nobody without that thing can truly compete at the highest level. From then on the only way to be king of bodybuilding is to have this new thing, and then every important thing beforehand. You may not be the best at the things brought before. It doesn't mean each Mr. Olympia far surpasses the last, Ronnie had the legs, and everything else. I'm sure you get what I mean Mark. Sergio with his genetic freakiness, the structure. Arnold with general upper body size. Lee brought the back into the game. Dorian with grainy leanness. Ronnie with the legs. Jay with the completeness. Phil the condition (different from leanness: fullness, dryness, separation). Who will be the next dynasty? Derek for all we know may have the shape, the proportions to be 10 time mr. olympia.

  • @garytate2947
    @garytate2947 8 місяців тому

    You on the right me left 💪🏾🙏🏾

  • @clifflisette
    @clifflisette 3 роки тому

    Are you serious when you say Lee's front double biceps shot is not good?

  • @roadstar499
    @roadstar499 Рік тому +1

    Lee Haney all the way for me... He also is older than Ron now and was fortunate to not get injured...he never went over 500lbs on a squat or deadlifted insane weight... our bodies can only handle so much if you push to hard you can really hurt yourself...we all have our limits and Lee trained to his and not past... I am sure Lee had his days of some ego lifting as we all do...he just kept it to a minimum ...Both are great champs for sure

  • @josephennmajuscule1360
    @josephennmajuscule1360 5 місяців тому

    Lee Haney est le dernier Mister Olympia magnifique.👌😍

  • @Bigguns761
    @Bigguns761 3 роки тому +1

    the scaling is quite off, you made honey always bigger. ronnie should be at least 10 % bigger. compare the heads... ronnie has a tiny head compared to haney in you'r comparaison..

  • @of218
    @of218 3 роки тому +1

    I know you probably won’t see this but if you do please do Dennis wolf 2013 Olympia vs Roelly Winklaar 2018 Olympia

  • @powerofme7144
    @powerofme7144 Рік тому

    Supposedly, they were both in the 250s for these wins.

  • @johnathanvale8634
    @johnathanvale8634 3 роки тому +1

    lee wins the front lat spread, side tricep, and ab and thigh.
    Ronnie wins the back shots, front double side chest and most muscular
    5-3 ronnie

  • @robertmastnak581
    @robertmastnak581 3 роки тому +1

    Both are graet chapions for me, but Haney looks more complete in symetry, proportions and vascularty...

  • @khines2994
    @khines2994 2 місяці тому

    You seem to use better pictures for Lee than Ronnie. Better lighting and closer shots which makes him look bigger even though Lee was great

  • @wtfsalommy3250
    @wtfsalommy3250 4 місяці тому

    Just like ok at Ronnies Abs in that first photo.. Straight Savage

  • @servantsofthemessiah720
    @servantsofthemessiah720 9 місяців тому

    Haney was amazing but Ronnie went to a new level. Haney was much wiser getting out early taking care of His Family. No huge body destroying weights or drugs. Jesus Christ is the True King.