Visiting Surtr's Wife Sinmara Crying In Niflheim After Ending (Secret Dialogue) - GOW: Ragnarök
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- God of War: Ragnarök - Kratos & Freya visit Surtr's wife Sinmara in Mist Fields - Niflheim for her husband after he died in Ragnarok in Asgard.
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Played on: PlayStation 5 - PS5
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Available for: PlayStation 5
Game released: November 9th, 2022
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It's interesting how Helheim and Niflheim are both realms of ice, yet they're both very different. Helheim is a very biting kind of cold, with the constant gusting winds that chill you to the core. Niflheim, on the other hand, feels more like a day after heavy snowfall, with a calmer breeze being the only audible sound amidst the otherwise death-like stillness.
In real mythology helheim is a separate realm that sits inside of niflheim, sometimes it’s even called niflhel
@@faidaimaidai So it essentially a region that is part of Niflheim
@@animanco6833 from what i've read it is however it's not a part of it, it's like a different realm inside another realm
@@faidaimaidai so Niflheim is basically pregnant of Helheim.
@@coprilettodelnapoli5466 thats kinda how i remembered it
Fun Fact: they had a whole quest chain that you did for Cinmara as her and Sutur were actually supposed to combine, but the quest chain slowed things down too much so they scrapped it and used the Blades of Chaos instead. some of that cut content (including ehr character model) are still in the games files. Hopefully they release a definitive edition with that content intact.
i thought it was cuz of atreus arc cuz he lies about stuff about saying odin killed surtr and other stuff like that but they scrapped it cuz the arc of atreus becoming a better person just went brrr
@@jackhernan6413 Pretty much, it was due to the game being too long already and also because it fucked with Atreus' development. It didn't make much sense for Atreus to be a piece of shit and manipulate Sinmara into forming Ragnarok.
@@caramellpanda i mean the game being too long doesn't make sense but the manipulating makes alot of sense
I prefer it the way we got it. Fits the theme of defying fate and prophecy, as well as shows a beautiful example of sacrifice.
Anywhere around in niflheim and maybe we will see her in the Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology
Imagine hearing that in the middle of the night in an ally
It will be really scary 😟
I played at 3 am alone in the dark and i heard that sound, i instantly went back to the mystic gateway and got out of niflheim entirely.
It was so creepy, it touched my soul.
@@slemangerdy8407 😄😄 that was funny…
Or alone at night in a tent in the woods
First thing that crossed my mind when I heard it was la llorona(the weeping woman) from hispanic lore.
I don't think that is Sinmara, you see nothing that resembles a fire heart from Surtr. I believe you just hear the echoes of her cries while in this area.
They literally say its her.
@@shawnmclaughlin5886 Yeah the cries are hers but that statue is just some random statue.
@@shawnmclaughlin5886 That statue is one of many statues that look the same, it isn't Sinmara. Sinmara was cut from the game unfortunately due to how long the game was already, but her cries across Niflheim were kept in.
I didn’t think that was her too cause I didn’t see sutur heart in the statue, we saw sinmara heart inside sutur so where is his 🧐
inside sinmara@@Smokedogg500
This is bugging me, was it ever explained why Niflheim is so much different than it was in the 2018 game?
I’m pretty sure it’s said that Ivaldi’s experiments changed the area around his workshop, introducing that toxic mist and that part of Niflheim was changed because of it.
Thor says that if you come out of Tyr’s temple, it basically dumps you in Ivaldi’s Workshop, which is basically pure poison
Yea. When you play as Atreus, he mentions about it. Thor then explained that is because the poisonous mist is only around Týr's Temple. The location where Niflheim is in Ragnarök is somewhere far away from Týr's Temple. But Thor said "Far enough" so they were probably closeby the mist zone.
The effects of Ragnorak. You know how fimbulwinter hit and Midgard became all snowy and frozen? That’s what happened to niflheim. Each realm experienced its own effects of ragnorak and fimbulwinter
@@alirizvi502 you wrong
Shame that Sinmara was cut e the final game, apparently there was an entire questline related to her but they scrapped it due to time constraints and thought it dragged on too long.
This dialogue and the cries is probably the only part of the end content they left in.
That's a shame. I hope they add it in as DLC or something. Valhalla was added so there might be other content.
Dude, they could've cut the jotunheim bit in like half if that was the case. Would've been preferred, that shit went on for like 2 and a half hours. Jotunheim is cool but dreadfully slow. Whenever it felt to me like, "finally! this must be the part where atreus and angrboda part ways" Nope. Angrboda kept saying she had one last thing
@@cpstyxx6621I swear I hated the Jotunheim mission in my recent replay of the game had forgotten how long it was in my first play through
she was cute indeed
simple solution, scrap the jotunheim shit and build on sinmara
I know everyone said this already, but that is a statue of Sinmara
Not Sinmara herself.
am i the only one terrified by sinmara crying? The music,the echoing sobbing...IS JUST TERRIFYING
It makes me want to cry. Surtr was a cool guy and she probably was too
It is kind of eerie and creepy in a way, ain't it
my heart aches hearing her cries. I wish we could have a dialogue with her, maybe give her some closure.
Hey, Kratos promised Surtr that he will stay away from her.
@@zacharyshannon9007no hitting on the widow
Heart transplant exchanges can do that to you
The fact that she has the surtr's fire heart means that there could be a second Ragnarok coming?
No
Potentially yes
Kratos' kills her with his axe that'd make surturs sacrifice pointless but that makes sense that he could technically create another one
@@anitabonghit7606 nah, his axe doesn’t have primordial ice in it, but if it did they could make a 2nd ragnarok-like creature
No, Kratos kept his promise to Surtr to leave Sinmara be
I have a theory, this game has left me with many Questions,
1. There were 2 prophecies, Kratos dying on the mural in Jötunheim and one with him being the champion, are there 2 timelines at play, here?
2. Surtr became Ragnarök without Sinmara because he had her heart, can she also become Ragnarök since she has his heart?
3. Did Thor go to the higher plane of existence like Athena by dying in an honorable way? His body materialized away like Athena.
4. Did Faye go to the higher plane of existence as well? When they had spread her ashes in Jötunheim, her ashes faded away like Athena and Thor.
5. Who blew the horn when Atreus got sick?
6. Was that horn to call the snake? Or was that the sound of Gjallarhorn being blown in another timeline like I mentioned in the first question?
7. If there are 2 timelines at play, Is Kratos a good version of Odin? He technically has Freya, Mimir, Draupnir, Dwarves who gave him gifts.
8. If there is a double timeline, is there one with a good Atreus like now and a bad Loki in the other?
9. Is this game in time loop? For instance, there was a prophecy of Thor knocking Jörmungandr back in time, then Atreus went back to Jötunheim, put a Giant’s soul in a soulless snake and he was born and then during Ragnarök, he got hit back in time.
So technically, 2 different Jörmungandr existed in the same time period before the younger one got hit back in time.
Baldur called the horn for jormangandr
Also the reason why kratos didn’t die is cuz he wrote his own path bro they explain all of this in games did you just play the game without sound tf
@@angillis1128 exactly
not all giant prophecies are right
@@deluxodex1846 wasn’t the reason
That ain't Sinmara, that's just a statue from the rest of the ruins. You only hear her wails.
Devs confirmed it was Sinmara
@@raybob8668 find me that quote, otherwise it's bullshit
It’s not a quote, it’s in the game’s files. Sinmara’s model is the girl in Nifilhiem. As well as her animations matching with her cut dialogue when the Devs had more plans with her. Though this is all we get of her.
Besides it this isn’t Sinmara, who else is it supposed to be?
@@raybob8668 just a random statue since she fits with the rest of the ruins far more.
also show me the source on that first statement, cuz I dont believe that anyones looking at gamefiles from a ps5 exclusive game
@@raybob8668 the game files and concept art revealed the exact opposite, look at the wiki
Thats a statue bro
@@SeriousDragonify fire heart
@@SeriousDragonify no its not
@@SeriousDragonify she was cut out of the game
@@w_rry And you found out from the source after game was released and couple contents shown up.
Still her voice wouldn't be triggered at the statue part because that's only location where she starts crying and can still be heard after it.
@@SeriousDragonify no you hear it around the whole realm
Ngl hearing her cry honestly creeped me out a bit, especially when it happened outta nowhere.
Poor Sinmara.😔😔
this scared the SHIT out of me I had goose pimples after getting my ass kicked at the berserker here
It almost looks like she’s just frozen there
it's a statue, not her. there are multiple. She's a frost giant, and wasn't physically effected by anything in the story. She's out there, unseen.
There is actually a cut content where she plays a big role. There's even a model of her in the game that never made it in the final cut.
static.wikia.nocookie.net/godofwar/images/0/03/Sinmara_cut_model.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20221217093027
@@no1guy825 Her voice bubble comes straight from the statue, but you're right.
They probably couldn't place anywhere else.
@@SeriousDragonify It doesn't. Her voice echos throughout Niflheim
it almost like earthlings are almost not so smart keep up the same work and energy ppl
This area should have been bigger
Imagine sinmara is Niflheim just as surtur is muspelheim
Greek saga had 6 games in total. Norse ended suspiciously fast.
The Norse only has two for now
And maybe we will see Sinmara in the Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology
Why bother releasing a 3rd clone on the outdated PS hardware? Better to switch it up in game setting instead of GoW 1: 2 part 2 part 3
Sinmara voice horror i cant sleep tonight😱👻
I wish they added sinmara into the game
Anywhere around in niflheim and maybe we will see her in the Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology
@@joaquinnevarez2509 Why do you believe there will be a third game in norse mythology if they confirmed this was the last part in norse mythology?
@@sutarn7246 you think it is but to me is not yet done
@@joaquinnevarez2509 "No. In an interview with the Director of Ragnarök, Eric Williams, and Sony Santa Monica creative director, Cory Barlog, they stated that this game will be the last one to have Norse mythology in the lore. They are shifting from Norse mythology to present players with a new location, storyline and enemies to fight, because playing in the same repetitive setting can be boring."
I'm sorry to tell you, but you're in denial
@@sutarn7246 there are still more to experience in the era of the Norse mythology world
Why do people think that's Sinmara....? why would she just be stiff AND crying? It's clearly a statue
It's Sinmara and not just a statue.
@@SeriousDragonify No it's not XD
@@keybladegames_real Yes it is.
@@SeriousDragonify It was confirmed it's not but whatever, stay in denial to avoid feeling like an idiot.
@@keybladegames_real Who confirmed it?
Some brainless modders who don't even know anything and you believe them?
You're naive fool.
Here's a fun fact: in the myth Sinmara is the lover of sutur but shes also the wife of everyones favorite severed hesd Mimir
gerçekten çok üzüntü veren bir sahne.müzikler sesler bir harika.
Knk biz buraya nasil ulaşabiliriz ragnaroktan sonra ben anlamadım açıklar misin
@@omerfaruksensoy5379 sincap tohum veriyor.bifrost kapısı açınca nifleheim haritasını seç tohumu ağaç olan yere aç.
common mistake by the fanbase but this statue is not sinmara
Random statue 🗿
Finally! I've been wondering where she was
Actually... idk if that's where she is now
Thats not her
@@w_rry its y I gave the idk part at the end cus I read the comments later
@@w_rry It is.
Echo comes from her in that statue.
There’s a cut model for her. Definitely not her. Same with a cut ending where Atreaus tricks her into thinking Odin killed Surtr and her sacrificing herself into the Spark of the Worlds too would create Ragnarök. Most definitely cut because of time constraints and running into plotbeats already made earlier in the game. Though it would’ve been fitting considering Loki in Norse.
@@rezahydra right... well... at least with wat we got now... I hope sinmara can find peace...
She was in the building to the left. But it's a no go location.
I wish someone could add Sinmara's model in the game. Perhaps when the PC version comes out.
Its there, just not used. ua-cam.com/video/k-3tb3Z74eU/v-deo.html
Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology along with other characters who didn’t have they’re opportunities to be in the game such as Ymir, Kvasir, Idun, Vidal, Njord, Hodr, Bragi, Ullr and Hela
Ymir’s long gone as Odin killed him, Mimir told in his boat story in God of War. Njord may still be out there since he is Freya and Freyr’s dad. Hodr doesn’t seem to exist in this game tho, since Odin didn’t go into detail about family. We don’t even know if Forseti is the son of Baldur. As for Hela, she may be a stretch since Atreus & Angrboda are still teenagers.
@@magdalenademedici7697 you might never know if they are there might be so sort of magical resurrection to them and some of them will might appear they’re
@@magdalenademedici7697 i mean Fenrir and Jormungandr were also his children by Angrboda and they were there
So I was trying to plat the game(4:00 Am btw) i was searching for the last hilt which was in the prison in nifleheim when I got out of the prison I heard this and got jumpscared lol.
I mean, they did promised to stay away from her so, it's sad eitherway
I hope there’s DLC that’ll give us more lore and information.
God of war doesn't do DLC
@@Journey24215 🥲
Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology along with other characters who didn’t have they’re opportunities to be in the game such as Ymir, Kvasir, Idun, Vidal, Njord and Hela
@@joaquinnevarez2509 I hope so, but Corey Barlog said that Ragnarök is the last of the Norse series and I don’t think they do DLC, so 🤷🏾♂️.
@@serarthurdayne41 you might never know if they expend the norse mythology story and we definitely can’t get to the phase 3 which is Kratos enters egyptian mythology just yet
For those wondering the difference between Helheim and Niflheim:
Niflheim: Winter Wonderland
Helheim: Winter Wasteland
One is a cool place to explore while the other makes you feel like Absolute Zero.
Still believe Surtr was wrong for leaving Sinmara like this. No one can convince me otherwise.
But at the same time, it was Surtur's choice and request that he didn't want her involved at all
Still believe Surtr was wrong for leaving Sinmara like this. No one can convince me otherwise.
@@loonowolf2160
I believe Sinmara would have want to join with Surtr than letting him die
@@loonowolf2160 so because it was 'his choice' that makes hers non-existant? hypocrite
I like how even her name sounds cold! Sinmara!!
If you ask me, it was selfish of Surtr to gives his life so Sinmara would live. I know he loves her, but did ever stop to think how his actions would affect her? Sure, she would live, but now she has no reason to! He should’ve joined together with her and faced the end together rather than leave her alone and depressed!
It may hurt for her now, but it could be possible for her to overcome that pain and sadness in order to move on and find a new thing to live for. Kratos never thought he would be happy after the death of his first wife and daughter. But he eventually learned to let go of his pain and move on to have a new family, not that he was trying to replace his old family or anything like that. But he did manage to let himself be happy again (even if he is terrible at showing it). And if Kratos of all people can accomplish the feat of moving on from grief and pain. I like to think that Sinmara can too
@@gamerguy19981yeah, definitely this. Surtr himself even said "When you love someone, it's about choosing the lesser pain"
I agree 100%
to be brutally honest I don't think Sinmara has any more to live for than Surtr does, and the absolute audacity for Surtr to claim "what do I have to live for?" basically indicates he doesn't see Sinmara as something worth living for, which is obviously not true, and honestly by removing himself from existence, she now has nothing, and I doubt she's gonna ever find anything else to live for, she'll just grieve for the rest of her eternal life, alone and miserable.
Glad I'm not the only one to think this way. Surtr was selfish for thinking she'd want to live without him, when they love each other so much (or loved each other cuz I think that he didn't love her as much as she loved him).
The "lesser pain" would've been for both of them to merge together so they'd be united one last time.
@@zombies5100dumbass
That statue is literally behind you from this statute. There built around the area
Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology along with other characters who didn’t have they’re opportunities to be in the game such as Ymir, Kvasir, Idun, Vidal, Njord and Hela
I did not know that you could actually see Sinmara after Ragnarok you can hear her crying but I thought she was crying off in the distance of the BG like Hel was in the first GoW Norse game where you SAW her but that was it and in this case I though we could only hear her and if you looked hard enough you'd see her in the distance .....in some way I found it more cruel that Kratos was not made or given the option of telling her it would've been more kind or at least give closure
Alright so imagine an atreus centered game where sinmara and sindri are the main antagonist.
Sounds like beating up the concept which was used for two games already. DLC material at best.
Impossible to envision Sindri and Sinmara ever working together imo
We probaply see no fire heart because the fire heart belonged to Surtr. And he became a different being sacrificing himself.
Maybe thats a statue of her but no way is that Sinmara herself. The lack of a giant lava hole in her chest is kind of a giveaway.
How do I get past this part? I feel dumb but i can’t figure out how to advance past the berserker grave stone
That's not Sinmara. There are other statues that are identical just behind the door.
I almost thought I was missing something. Can always count on UA-cam to Rick roll me.
Eran las 4 am y apenas escuche ese llanto me cague entero
her voice scared me to death the first time lol
This breaks my heart hearing her
"Do you think we should try to tell her what happened?" Mimir, why the fuck would she be crying if she didn't know?
I heard these after defeating the annoying bifrost clown I thought his gang was coming to rescue him 😂😂😂😂
Why wasn't Sinmara in the game? She could've been a friend of Kratos and the crew.
She would've been some kinda boss fight trying to stop Surtr which wouldn't be pretty. Plus the game is emotional enough, this is just another unanswered question for the next game. Imagine Kratos embracing his new role trying to keep the peace in Midgard.
Original she was supposed to have a physically appearance but the creators of the game decided to deleted her from the game so instead we just her crying without even seeing and visiting and forgive her but maybe we will see her in the Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology
if you didnt know thats a fkn statue not sinmara
Ok so nifilheim is the realm of ice and yet helheim is the realm of ice?
Helheim is the realm of the dead brother. Its just hel for them is ice fuckin cold
@@blazedonakayak5053i read that in mimir's voice haha
@@kimislegit2032Me too! 😂
"she knows"
This why I'm hopping we stay in Midgard for the next game, too many unanswered questions?
Yes, facts. I've always really liked the norse mythology.
They still need to continue the next game in Migard.. Then transition right into Egypt..
Or if they are going with another pantheon entirely, next game, then it could be a prequel to before Kratos reaching the Scandinavian lands and meeting Faye..
But either way, I'm still kinda hyped on the Norse saga of God of War.
What was the point of Surtur becoming Ragnarok
So he can destroy Asgard
Can you see her face
You can see her cut character model left in gamefiles on wiki.
Very close to this version.
I think Janina Gavankar proviided the Crying think she went uncredited though as Sinmara
How did you get there? This didn't help.
I went to Nif after the ending (even cleared the prison) and I don't have that
What button do u press to take the picture
Square
As cool as itd be to see her, i hope we don't. Kratos promised surtr that hed stay away from her
There is SO much shit I never saw in this game good golly
How could she cry when she is frozen? 🥶 Is she a wondering spirit now?
Because that’s just a statue
@@eduardomagana3858 It's Sinmara.
@@SeriousDragonify its a STATUE of Sinmara perhaps but it is not Sinmara herself, since SInmara is still alive
@@Guardian582 That's what i was exactly trying to say.
@@SeriousDragonify didn’t seem like it.
According to this guy , the model of Sinmara and dialog subtitles are still packaged in the build , just not used. ua-cam.com/video/k-3tb3Z74eU/v-deo.html
She’s crying because they left her out of the game
I can't finish this. I got the infinite enemy glitch. 🙄
So she is frozen?? They could have gave her a dialogue
She isn't frozen. I don't think a frost giant can freeze
@@avatarhawk1 is she moving though? I see no movement
Cause If she isn’t that’s why I stated they should have gave her dialogue. This was boring
@@RegentofArrako it's a fucking statue and it's not the only statue of Sinmara you can find in Niflheim. You cannot actually see Sinmara in game
@@avatarhawk1 It's not just a statue.
It's herself, devs confirmed it.
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Is it really HER???
Its only a statue of Sinmara, the real person would have a hole in her chest containing Surtrs heart just like how Surtr has a hole containing Sinmaras heart
She's not crying... At least not of grief😁
? Explain.
Maybe she might appear in the third part sequel of the norse mythology of god of war phase 2 norse mythology along with other characters who didn’t have they’re opportunities to be in the game such as Ymir, Kvasir, Idun, Vidal, Njord, Hodr, Bragi, Ullr and Hela
She is most likely crying of grief