PANERAI Manufacture Tour in Neuchâtel. EPISODE 2: Laboratory + Crash Test Center
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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This is Episode 2 of WatchAdvisor's look behind the scenes at the Panerai HQ in Neuchâtel. In a series of several 4K-videos we will show you how a Panerai watch is manufactured. To ensure the highest level of quality, in early 2014 Panerai opened its new Manufacture in Neuchâtel, a significantly larger building with greater resources than the previous Manufacture opened in 2002. A completely new structure, in both form and substance, featuring more than 10,000 square metres of space where about 250 people carry out their specialist work. This new setting brings together all the main operations and technical skills needed to create a Panerai and it is the place where the technical and innovative spirit of the brand is best expressed, nurtured by the centuries-old Swiss tradition in the field.
At the Panerai HQ in Neuchâtel we had the opportunity to look behind the scenes:
case making,
movement fabrication,
case + movement assembly,
testing and quality control,
plus research & development...
Episode 2 - the one you are actually watch - will show you what Panerai does in its Laboratory and Crash Test Center
I've owned a Panerai Luminor 104 for 14 months and as soon as I got a notification of this upload my Panerai came out of its box and back on my wrist for its 2 weeks rotation. This was so interesting and funny too when you dropped the watch and a call was made to the CEO! Superb Alexander! God bless you, sir!
Thanks for sharing our passion!! Love your comment!! May your Luminor always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours…
WOW. i was surprised that the Lever was open during the water pressure test !!.
GREAT tour. GREAT manufacturer. GREAT watches. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing our passion and your kind feedback!!
Very nice video! Please do more Content like this, this is fantastic!
Thanks for sharing our passion! A Bulgari Manufacture visit video about the production of the Octo Finissimo is being edited …
I have like five Panerai watches, and they have so much character and are very different from my other watches. I love them just as much as I love my Blancpains, Rolexes, and Omega’s. They have a unique character in spirit, not found in any other Swiss watch. Thank you for this.
@@tarichar8 Thanks for sharing your passion with us! May all your beautiful watches continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours!
Excellent video! Good to know that my Panerais has been made with good engineering standards and quality control. Never had any issues with them so far. Reliable watches.
Thanks for sharing our passion and your kind feedback! May your Panerai continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours…
Very cool video! I just purchased a PAM01321 and its nice to see the factory where it was made.
Congratulations and thanks for the kind feedback! May your Panerai continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours...
I laughed out loud in real life when you dropped the 8 days. 😂
🤣Me too!
🤣🤣 Well, me too … we all laughed a lot… that’s when we had the idea for the scene with Jean-Marc … Thanks for sharing our passion!
Thanks for the video I enjoyed watching it, it is very informative not for Panerai only but the watch industry in general. Panerai watches are great time pieces however, the management needs to reconnect with its customers and clear any misunderstandings and these you tube episodes are a good start 👍
Thanks for sharing our passion!
Fantastic presentation. I was happy to see the inner workings of one of my favorite watchmakers. I never thought I would have the opportunity!
You are very welcome!!!
My wife owens a Panarai Due for about 4 weeks so we can't expect seeing the next part of your video series about Panarai fabrics and laboratories in Neuchatel.
Great job as usual, thanks Alex👌
Congratulations, which one is it? May the Luminor Due always show your wife happy seconds, minutes and hours …
LMAO at the accidental drop, love how the Panerai guy was just laughing 😆
He knew of course that nothing had happened… and even though I also knew that the watch would drop on the wooden floor I first was shocked…
you are a great tester!! 🙂fantastic episode!
Thank you Paolo, that’s very much appreciated…
Factory videos are the best.
We love them too! Thanks for sharing our passion!
Thanks for this great video series Alexander.
The video series is a good start from Panerai to address the issues that have been raised from collectors of the brand.
Without being an expert in advanced manufacturing it is hard to form a view on the scale of their facilities and their ability to produce thousands of watches a year. I am going to guess that there are more than this one facility though!
In terms of the Luminor Due I have been a big fan of this collection for my wife but we were put off by the 30m. It is good to see that they are more water resistant than the specifications provided. It does raise the question around long term water resistance over a prolonged period of time and a larger sample size. Once these are 100m water resistant we will be acquiring one for my wife!
I'm more worried about my Navitimer 30 m resistance than any Panerai.
The WR of the Luminor Due will be increased officially… to what extend I can’t say, but I assume at least 50m, but maybe 100m…
Interesting to see Due meeting 200m test....I think Panerai missed opportunity to answer the naysayers...Thx for part 2!!
You saw part two too! Wonderful!
I miss the old Panerais.
Which ones in particular?
Thanks for another video in this series.
The water resistance is a particularly contentious point with some Panerai models, so good to see this addressed and possibly changed soon!
Can you explain why they still had 30m for so long, was the production not reliable/consist enough to guarantee more?
Also why was the test done with the crown lock open? Is there some issue keeping it closed at that depth? Since it is very uncommon to leave it open and it should perform better closed, but I am thinking this might not be the case, perhaps too much compression of the seal or something? Would love to understand the reasoning behind it.
Thanks for sharing our passion again! The WR will change soon... No, I cant explain you why, but I know that the generation of Luminor Due cases they manufacture know do withstand 200 meters. They are continuing the tests and they will define a new official WR for that model. Why was the lever open? Because the crown gaskets alone must guarantee the WR... closing the lever is another security on top... Understand that this is their way of thinking... it is not about showing off, but about delivering and guaranteeing the best possible quality...
@@WatchAdvisor Thanks for the reply, and as I said good to see they are working towards guaranteeing proper water resistance again across their ranges. It shows they are listening to some of the criticism and improving/returning things constructively for watch enthusiasts that do care about these things (even if many current customers might already be OK with it).
I rewatched and reread some comments on the Bronzo Submersible manufacturing video and it is clear many 'critics' don't understand manufacturing and supply chains which are all very common practice in the industry. A critic should be open to learn and understand circumstances and details fully before they comment..
Is in-house a complicated statement today for anyone reliant on third party or in-group suppliers, yes. But then only watchmakers like Roger Smith can claim true in-house making every part including case and dial.
Even Rolex is still reliant on many suppliers, they just bought/integrated nearly all, but they work in different buildings right! 😉 Some more transparency is nice but also not needed for 90% of customers and if competitors claim the same you have to match. In-house has just become a marketing word, what matters is if a brand has full control over the quality of each component.
The industry existing sensitivity of “in-house” was created by marketing departments far away from realty (= production). The image that was created made you believe that everything was done by hand and exclusively in-House. What nonsense!
these videos of Panarai Manufacture just made me want to get a Panerai even more..... Heck, I think I will even try to apply for any work there... Resume on the way. I wonder Panerai allow their employees to wear other watches than Panerai after work as part of the employment contract...... Can't wait to see the rest of this series. Thank you WA.
Thanks for sharing our passion! May I ask what you would want to to at Panerai? What is your profession?
@@WatchAdvisor I am not sure what position is available in Panerai at this moment but I would like to contribute to a company where it creates something that it is also part of my hobby and passion. Don't get many such opportunities in this part of the world where I am from. I am a technical clarification engineer / product engineer for the past 10 years in the tobacco industry where we specialized in machines manufacturing and I recently got myself promoted and I am now a group manager after the recent organization wide restructuring back in February this year.
That's the place I'd like to work! Everybody get a Panerai to wear!
You can apply… 😉
Excellent videos Alexander. So clipped in caseback is not a deal breaker anymore as quality seems to be there.
Thanks for your kind feedback! Quality is definitely there… let me know if you have any questions…
@@WatchAdvisor Yes: Luminor Base or Radiomir Base? Very undecided, first I was in for Luminor, but the Radiomir is also stunning and has longer history. I scuba dive myself and even use Italian DPV (diver propulsion vehicule) from Suex. Best regards, P.
Which one too choose? Try to compare both 1:1 on your wrist in different light conditions… then let your heart decide it won’t lie…
Alexander, it ended with a Radiomir 1335. What a hell of a watch, its absolutely gorgerous. I have to say that your vidoes on the factory helped alot to take Panerai really serious. Best regards, Patrick.
Another excellent video Alexander nice to meet the humorous side of the CEO and of the other Guy, but why do they only write 30m on the cases instead of the tested 200m? Or at least 100 meters. Aren't they sure? I think, that can only be for warranty reasons. I think that's a bit of a shame, it would win back trust. It is also interesting that the watertightness is achieved even though the lever is open.
They will change to 50 or more soon… once the R&D team gives its ok …
I am the very happy owner of a Luminor PAM00915 like the one shown in the final part of your video. They are indestructible and beautiful watches.
Despite the generous size, you wear them like a tailored glove. As an Italian I am proud that there is such an important watch with an Italian name and invented by an Italian.
Then dear Perez can tell all the bullshit he wants on his blog about him. But Panerai remains a myth in watchmaking.
Visiting the Panerai factory would be a dream.
Nino
Thanks for sharing your passion and thoughts with us! May your Panerai continue to always show you HAPPY seconds, minutes and hours…
They definitely must change the 30m mention on the Due. What went through their head when they designed this collection?
Anyway, great tour Alexander. Do the other manufacture have the same crash test protocol and requirements?
They will do that once they are 1000 % 😉 sure that these cases can take more... what they do is always on the absolute safe side ... what is mentioned on the cases is always + 25% and as we saw here even much more...
Great informative video👍 … Well made in all respects and it worth owning….
Thanks for sharing our passion!
very interesting video. thank you.
Thanks for sharing our passion!
It's easy to see why they have a group of loyal followers.
Thanks for sharing! Don’t miss the next episode…
It's Good to see Walter White enjoying Panerai beside his Tag heuer Monaco and Casio databank😊
🤣🤣🤣You are not the first one to discover these obvious similarities in between Brian Cranston and me…
@WatchAdvisor Hehe I bet 😄
Panerai needs to communicate the real water resistance on every dial. What is the point of making a greater efford of testing it to 20bar and then write 30m on the dial without communicating it well enough? Who set the rule that customers don't want a dress watch with 200m water resistance? It is missed added value here! They will sell much much better with 200m on the dial. Especially to a younger audience. Please Panerai.
Panerai of course will change this in the near future. Thanks for your remarks!
Watches are made to test to 25% of their water resistance potential.
You really dropped it! Did you sweat cold at that moment Alexander?😂🤦♂️
Well the watch wa meant to fall down, but the machine should have done it… Yes, I was a little cold sweating, but only for a short moment until I realized nothing happened…
@@WatchAdvisor 😂You are really mythical Alexander! Beautiful service I can't wait to watch the sequel. Great👍
@@pollu_73 Grazie 🙏🏻 Il prossimo episodio sarà presto online...
Superbe ! Merci 🙏
Je suis content de lire ça ! Merci pour ton feed-back…
Looking forward to your next episode! I was always curious to see how Panerai movements are assembled after your Submersible Bronzo video. Hoping to see a P.9010 movement, as is in my Submersible 42:)
The watchmakers were assembling various calibres… I don’t know yet what we are going to show in details…
Great series!
I like Panerai but I think they look a bit big on my wrist.
Really good content! Appreciated!
They have 100m WR 40 mm Luminor Marina watches in white, blue and black dial variants. You can consider those. Same design as 44 mm.
@@seanlingham5254 Thanks, yes the 1940 Radiomir is really a very nice watch... another one on my list, finally a Panerai.
Next year will be the year of the Radiomir... So watch out!
Reading the comments Paneria has definitely annoyed some customers. But in all fairness removing features in a current production model (and keeping quite about it?) I can understand their annoyance.
Some of the features have been temporarily removed to accelerate the improvements Panerai wants to make on these movements and also to reduce the size of the latter… the features will come back once the process they are in is terminated… By the way: also other manufacturers (not only watches) have done and will do such exercises without noticing their clients…
@@WatchAdvisor can you help listing out some cases other watch brands have done it? I'm curious
@@tranquangminh7617 omega, 5 bar resistance in speedmaster range. also bond and moon bullshit.
rolex selling watches directly to flippers.
iwc panerai zenith breitling are genuine brands. dedicated to watch making below 10k range
@@doperdr I am talking about degrading movement without noticing client. If you have any name, pls enlightent me, otherwise it is not related to this comment. Thank you.
@@tranquangminh7617 what degradation you talking about?
go live ur life through the lens of some stupid website and yt channels.
panerai clearly states which movement is created by panerai, and which is not.
I love Panerai i proudly own 4 of their products, and i have been drooling over a chrono like Pam01409 and/ or pam01109 but to my disappointment i noticed they have no date, panerai seems to limit what they offer in their watches in low range
@@choulebanon8120 Thanks for sharing your passion with us! The question with chronographs is always do they really need a date function? The latter makes the dial appear even more busy… Tastes are different! May your Panerai watches continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours!
Great video as always!
Add hacking and at least 100m of WR on the Due line and I'd seriously consider adding one to my collection as a dress PAM
Both will happen! First more WR and later the hacking seconds function will make its way into the calibre…
@@WatchAdvisor looking forward to that day. I have 682 which is hacking but understand later versions of the 9010 are non hacking. I wonder if they will bring back the hacking on 9010.🤔
16:12 "Hello darkness my old friend..." 🎵
The Sound of Silence 🤫
That’s really hard fact…
It’s 50m Waterresistent and they just test it with open Crown to 20 bar…
Congratulations Panerai, well done!
I’m very impressed…👍🏻
Things in reality often are different than e.g. some people communicate about Panerai…
🤨 30 meters water resistant, that’s what you read when you buying so you think, I’ll pass a watch that can’t withstand not even the shower 😩pass … then they said 200 meters tested so if your watch fails at 50 meter or 100 meters because if can happen it would happen and you go for warranty and they say but the caseback states 30 meters = void warranty 😭 why they do that is beyond comprehension 😒 another thing I don’t understand apparently Panerai is a dive watch 99% of the times you see a Panerai is in leather strap why they don’t go full on bracelet!! Panerai bracelets are rare as unicorns!! Good video though outstanding as always 🥇🥇🥇
The 30 meters will change to much more soon...
@@WatchAdvisor This is fantastic news. Finally!
Great video! I have been recently considering a Panerai but haven’t decided which one should be my first. Currently, the PAM00512 is really tugging at my heart strings but the draw to a new Luminor is strong as well. I’d appreciate any suggestions on new Luminors or any insight if you have experience with the 512. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing! Please do also watch the next episode to make up your mind… and please let me know if you have any questions…
my wish is to visit Panerai factory and hold them in my hand
I hear you 😉 thanks for sharing our passion…
Another great video. A little humor from Jean-Marc Pontroué, didn't hurt either. It humanizes the brand.
It is always fun to work with Jean-Marc! I know him for many, many years and I can tell you he was always good for a joke 🤣 Thanks for sharing our passion and humor!!! Episode 3 will go online next week…
Ooo does this mean my Pam 675 is probably better resistant than 30m?! Obviously not going to test it, amazing!
The cases were always more waterproof than communicated... as a matter of fact ALL cases are tested to XY meters + 25 %
16:11 *Mistakes were made.* Looks like the trademark crown guard was dented into the case side.
I don't get the point! Can you please specify?
Really impressive over-test of the Due. Shame they're not formally rated to 100m, at least folks would stop crying about it, but nice to know the proofing is already there.
The WR rating on the Luminor Due cases and others will definitely increase in the near future…
@@WatchAdvisor thats great news. Unfortunatelly, for curent owners not so good, their due or other cases resale value will probably go down. Question is also, why should i buy due pam now, when we know that Wr will go up...
"absolutely!"
Yes! 😉 He was a bit nervous in the beginning… just normal if you aren’t used to stand in front of a camera…
Lots of venom out there (comments from part 1) I really want to see a full on resurgence from these guys. I'm a huge fan of Panerai and a lot of their core pieces. And btw...company image rehab can definitely be done. Breitling has clearly proven that...and in just a few short years. Hopefully all the new alloys and tech they're using will translate into something it's customer base (and most watch people) can get on board with. Seems like they're playing the long game with those moves. For me personally, a little more water resistance on Due, and I'm in. Best of luck to these guys...who doesn't love comebacks!
They are on the right track and selling like crazy. I just returned tonight from a business trip in Switzerland and I by coincidence met some of the managers of a huge Swiss based retailer at the airport that had a meeting… I asked what sells best in the moment beside Rolex and the usual suspects… Cartier, IWC and Panerai… So why worry?
Btw....I love these manufacture tours! Getting a look behind the curtain, to see the processes these watches are built and tested is always very entertaining.
I think the watch should be on a timegrapher before chrashtest and afterword too. To see if any accurecy has changed. Too many times it is seen on some watch that the wartch goes from + 3 - 5 sec a day and after a 1 meter drop on a woodenfloor it runs - 5 to -10 sec. a day. Ofcourse often much cheaper watches).
Also the movements are checked when such rigorous tests are done. Only a minimal deviation after the tests is allowed…
Surprising to see 200m water resistance on the due, even if the crown lever is open. The question is should i try swimming with my 5yo due now that ive seen this 😅
Be careful! To always be on the safe side you should let someone check the the watertightness of your watch year...
Watertightness degrades with time as rubber gaskets decay. Any watch going into the water should have those checked before the season or for a 5 year old watch replaced. To reiterate, any rubber hardens over time, and thus, the seal effectiveness is reduced. I wouldn't drive a car with 5+ year old tires either.
@@nilxnull Thanks for adding this!
Are all Panerai watches made Switzerland? Or are some parts made in China?
All original Panerai watches are Made in Switzerland.
Another great video! Thank you Alexander for your balanced, unbiased watch reviews and visits. I own several luxury watches but do not have a Panerai. Well… you convinced me! I will definitely add a Panerai to my collection and follow the brand more closely. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing our passion! There is one more episode coming… so you will be able to discover even more before buying a Panerai… And, please let me know if you have any questions…
@@WatchAdvisor I look forward to watching the third Panerai video 🤩 I am increasingly fascinated by this brand and your videos answered most of my questions. I will definitely reach out if I have any other questions. Thank you 🙏
Was this WR test only for presentation purpose, or they test every due for 200m wr?
No! They actually test lots of these cases to be sure to augment the watertightness of the luminor cases… They also working to improve the general watertightness of their cases…
Wasnt the case open during the test? It looked like the crown was not sealed as the crowngard was open
@@emmanueldupont428 Yes, this was the case… The gaskets of the crown alone are enough to guarantee the 20 bar…
Since the Due could be marketed as 200m wr, Panerai really should🐚
Dress watches typically aren't marketed as 200m WR. Usually 30m WR. They are meant to slide under a shirt cuff.
Panerai SAs tell me it is dress watch very openly and clearly so I was never under any delusions. I instead purchased Luminor Marina and Submersible for myself.
Btw. They always test for more. My PAM 968 is tested for 370 m. Marketed as 300 m.
They will increase the WR of almost all their cases soon, including the Luminor Due
🙏🙏🙏fantastic job Alexander !!!
I am happy to read this, thanks for sharing!
World's least graceful man visits Panerai 😂 Thank you for brining us along
Did you mean “least” or last?
😅@@WatchAdvisor
😂what one letter can do to our ego😂
Well, a drop test...
… is simulating the daily use of a watch and part of the standard testing…
20 bar with the crown guard up??!
Yes 👍🏼
Hi Alexander
Great job as usual 👍
Thanks for sharing our passion and your kind feedback! The next episode will go online in a week...
Did I miss accuracy, did not see anything on that.
This will be shown in the next episode…
@@WatchAdvisor when is the next episode coming? 😁im so close to buying my first panerai
So why write 30m water resistant?
It was meant to be a “dress watch” … and a auch doesn’t need more… it will be increased soon…
So does that mean my Submersible is actually water resistant to 2000M!?!?!? 😁
I don’t get the point… Can you specify?
The bigger question is, are you?😅
Another great video. Well done.
Thanks again, I am happy to read this... The next episode will go online in a week...
@@WatchAdvisor Looking forward Sir.
Panerai is my favorite watch manufacturer. But I'd like them to explain, post it on their website, why they have such low levels of water proofness. Their heritage is scuba diving. It's a very odd strategy for a company that made it's name supporting scuba diving. You can get a $125 automatic watch with better water proofness. And at Panerai's price level, it's baffling and irrational. Extraordinarily odd.
The WR already today is good (with one exception) and will improve further soon…
@@WatchAdvisor by exception you mean Duo?
@@max.zelinski No, all the different models will get an improvement in WR soon...
@@WatchAdvisor many Panerai references (e.g. 914 and 915, to name just some recent ones) sport a 300m water resistance limit, so it is no big deal. What really surprises me is why Panerai only declares 30m on some models. By the way, it looks odd that they put the crown guard (which was originally intended for high water resistance) on such poorely rated watches (water resistance wise).
Very cool Serie :) I have also a Panerai :) the 01321 and iam so happy with this ❤
Thanks for sharing our passion! May your Panerai always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours…
awesome content!
Thanks for sharing our passion! 🙏🏻
Mr. Rondeau also known as Mr. Absolutely (first 10 words he said were only “absolutely”)
I don't appreciate that kind of cynicism very much! Let's just admit that he was a little nervous. We don't rehearse the scenes and there is no script. For me, this way of working is not a problem, but it's just not given to everyone. Just be a little more tolerant please!
@@WatchAdvisor I absolutely agree with you
A force de lire tous ces commentaires dénigrant la qualité des Panerai j'avais peur de mettre la mienne dans l'eau...
Tu peux sans doute mettre ta Panerai dans l’eau… Il faut juste pas tous croire qu’est publier… 😉
DEAR ALEXANDER,
GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND. I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY HAPPY FOR YOU. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE. I HOPE YOU HAD THE BEST AND HAPPIEST CHRISTMAS OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND THE BEST AND HAPPIEST 2022 OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. I LOVE YOU. 🙏
SINCERELY PETER
Peter, thank you!
@@WatchAdvisor YOU ARE VERY WELCOME ALEXANDER. I LOVE MR. ESPARZA AND ALL OF MY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS. ( I WOULD ABSOLUTELY CRY TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS, BLESSINGS AND LIFE THIS MORNING) 🙏
On the defensive again, and so fake - "it has probably not broken because Panerai is a survival instrument for modern hero"
Hey, this was a joke! Have you heard about the word humor yet? And, I really dropped the watch when setting up the test… 😉
@@WatchAdvisor I didn't know humour existed in that part of Europe.
@@ABritishRefugeeinChina go drop your rolex at 5000g. we will sure have a laugh watching the screws pop like shrapnels 🤣
pro ~WatchAdvisor~ 🤗
Thanks for sharing our passion!
🤨 30 meters water resistant, that’s what you read when you buying so you think, I’ll pass a watch that can’t withstand not even the shower 😩pass … then they said 200 meters tested so if your watch fails at 50 meter or 100 meters because if can happen it would happen and you go for warranty and they say but the caseback states 30 meters = void warranty 😭 why they do that is beyond comprehension 😒 another thing I don’t understand apparently Panerai is a dive watch 99% of the times you see a Panerai is in leather strap why they don’t go full on bracelet!! Panerai bracelets are rare as unicorns!! Good video though outstanding as always 🥇🥇🥇
There are numerous Panerai's on a steel bracelet
If you can't get the strap you want from Panerai check "Horus" straps... I wear my Luminor GMT on a black/blue camouflage strap from them...
Most of them come with 1 x leather and 1 x rubber. You can wear the rubber strap if you are more sporty and worry about strap WR.
Runner straps are more comfortable when engaging in sporting activities than any bracelet in the market.