Schott 618 Perfecto Review: One Year Later
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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It's been about a year since I first reviewed my Schott 618 Perfecto. I've worn it a bunch. Broken it in. Made quite a few videos about it. So I figured it was time to really dig in to an updated, upgraded review on the Schott 618!
In this video I go over the materials, construction, style, and value of this classic biker jacket model. I get a little mystical (or philosophical) about just how has the Schott 618 stood the test of time, and what happens when a jacket achieve icon status.
Review also on my site here: dudsbydel.com/schott-618-perf...
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Materials and Features
2:30 Fur Collar Accessory
3:12 The Fit
4:39 Construction Quality
5:25 Wearability
6:33 A Versatile Jacket
9:32 Cost and Value
13:50 Final Thoughts - Навчання та стиль
My first and only Schott was bought in 1984 in Connecticut for $99. It's still rocking.
$99! Inflation is a bummer 😂
40 years that’s crazy
Looks amazing and looking forward to eventually getting my own. Love the way it sounds, the leather and hardware sounds. Badass.
Oh yeah, such a great jacket
Having so many jackets, I have realized that my 618 is the most comfortable jacket I have and is also warm enough for me with a sweat shirt underneath… I thought about selling it but I know I will regret it because it is just a practical jacket for me other than the belt. Man that thing can get in the way and scratch a dudes trans am lol.
And you are right, that jacket can be worn with anything and still look good in my opinion and you are spot on man with your thoughts about this jacket!
Yeah man. It’s been the surprise hit for me. Belt hasn’t been a problem for me but scratching things up would be aggravating. Have heard metal zip box can do the same
In 2021 I purchased a 118, I tried the 618, but I have wide shoulders and it was not comfortable, but the 118 fit pretty good. In 2022, during Black Friday I purchased the PER70, the vintage faded look is awesome. The only complaint is that the leather makes a lot of noise when I wear it. So a week ago I rubbed some leather conditioner and the leather feels softer and it barely makes and leather squeaky noises. It always cool to see your videos. Keep on Rockin!
I heard from a friend that the Per70 is really great. The 26” back length has kept me away…
I believe I paid about $200 /$300 and change in 1990/1992. Haven’t worn it in over 20 years. It’s now conditioned and ready to wear again. Don’t know why your video popped up the day I decided to care for mine. ❤❤
Hah. Clearly on your mind! Always nice to rescue a good jacket from the closet
I have a 613, bought in October, I love it!
Congrats man!
Great review! I have a 613SH and love it, indeed slightly longer but works well! Once the leather loses its shine and starts to break in, it looks amazing! A lot more character than the 613/613S I think (in less amount of time).
Nice to hear it! I’m looking to get one this year, compare em, and decide which to keep. Feel pretty sure it will be the 613s (or sh) but never know til ya try
Yeah definitely! I had a 618 from the 80s before and was used to the shorter length so took a while to accept the 613SH with its longer length. However, I must say, after a few months of wearing it, it has probably gotten slightly shorter due to creasing and breaking in.
If you get the 613SH new, be aware that the fit changes quite dramatically after it breaks in (for the better).
I have the 613s the 613sh and the p613s and I love the p613s the most. That Horween Chromexcel is stellar, and actually breaks in fairly easily.
Nice have of course also thought about the p613s. Seems like the sizing is a little different from the others since they do S/M/L rather than 38/40/42 etc. Does look really nice though
Damn Del, I’m still breaking in my 613, I think I’ll be retired when it’s finally softened up 😂
But MAN do I love it! You’ve described this jacket perfectly (no pun intended lol)
Haha sounds like you’re putting in the work! Did you try getting it wet like in my breaking in video? Thanks man!
@@DudsByDel thanks! Yes I did and also conditioned it a bit with lexol (as recommended by Schott) loving it 👍
Im one of those who think that their style is not quite ready for a perfecto yet. But I did recently take a risk and pick up a beautiful cal CHP, a true bike jacket in its own right, and I was immediately blown away with how much I liked the style. Maybe I'll get there with the perfecto one day.
Nice. Is your Cal a straight zip or crosszip? I have a crosszip and it’s an amazing jacket
A straight zip! Has a gorgeous grain and a pretty perfect fit. Posted a photo on TFl what are you wearing yesterday
Hey hey Duds, watching your video, I thought, omg a reincarnation of the "wild one" , Marlon Brando, is present,😂 hahaha...! - No, seriously I loved watching and listening to you. I agree completely to you, because many years ago I thought this perfecto type of leather jacket is not me. And now I practically don't wear any other leather jackets. I love the cool look, the feel, and because you can combine it with so many different types of clothing. When I was a young student I bought my first perfecto type leather jacket from the brand "Petroff", Paris, which looked exactly like the jackets, the Ramones used to wear on stage. At first I had to overcome my shyness and just wear it, not caring what somebody might say. The reaction of friends of mine was amusing, when they saw the jacket in my appartement. They asked me, if they may try it on, although I still remained the only one with this kind of jacket. So I always got positive reactions until now, where I reached the age an senior citizen.
As I told you my Schott's perfectos are the 125 and the very rare 115, both beltless with cool side lacings. - And, so true, the USA brands like Schott's, Langlitz, Vanson, etc. these leather jackets are after my opinion the best ones qualitywise and considering their durability. And they are genuine, authentic garments, not like these fashion imitations from famous brands, which cost a lot more but lack authenticity and the real feel. - So I will also probably remain on to my death a fan of those, haha..!
Great video, very helpful and inspiring.
Go on rocking your jackets!
Peace and kindest regards from Switzerland.
Yes I didn’t speak to it in the video but the idea of authenticity, and in this case how the original purpose of the jacket drives its function and features, is so crucial.
Damn, I've been eyeing up a gently used Perfecto that somebody an hour away is asking $250 Canadian for... it happens to be this exact same jacket haha even more tempted now!
At that price, a no-brainer! With patience you can make more than your money back if you end up not liking it
@@DudsByDel for sure, I should definitely make the drive
Great review! How would you compare the Schott to a Langlitz Columbia? Or the Lewis Leathers Bronx?
Hey Jon! All motorcycle jackets but each is a different style. I think each of those are great jackets and you would do well with which style most appeals. Obviously with Langlitz you have a longer wait
Thoughts on which would be the better choice long term for Schotts steer vs horse ?
They will both hold up well over time and break in beautifully from what I’ve seen. Talking specifically about the steer and horse Schott uses, the main difference will be your preference for shine or matte leather
Got my hands on a 613s for a super good price. Was hesitating between the steerhide and the horsehide but ultimately choose the matte steerhide as I don't want the jacket to outshine me haha. I think it would fit you also really well, just be aware of the slim arms of the 613s, layering may be harder.
Good point about the arms, as slim ones do cause me trouble. Had to sell the ELMC Californian I got because of it. Still makes me even more curious about the 613s line!
I have a 613sh I picked up new from Schott, and a standard 613 from 2022 I picked up used in unworn condition. I thought I’d try the 2 models out and choose one to keep… gonna keep them both since I can’t decide which one I’d be willing to part with. Both are easy to layer with once they start to break in. I don’t find the slimmer arm holes on the 613sh to be restrictive at all. The sh wears a tad longer in the body of course, but that appears more subdued after break in, as the hide creases and draws up a bit. The hide on the sh is VERY stiff and shiny new, but after a 2 hour very wet motorcycle ride, once the jacket dried out, the jacket is leaps and bounds more comfy. The shine is also slowly relenting after just a couple of months owning it.
Interesting thanks for the comparison. Really want to get my hands on a 613s/sh!
What are the main differences between those 2 hides? Is it only the shine/matte appearance? Or is horse more grainy and less spongy than steer
@@JohnnyPlissken-xs7hq the horse is also smoother looking with tighter grain. Mark may be able to tell you more
@@JohnnyPlissken-xs7hq The horse is less spongy and has more of a firm hand, though not any heavier. Definitely has more shine. The major bonus with the horse on the sh model is the scent when new. Smells incredible
You got the perfect fit for your build too. That's really hard to find with leather
It does take trial and error for sure.
Got a vintage 618 based on your recommendation, I'm glad I went with the 618 instead of the 613. Only thing I'm not a fan of is the hanging belt. I might cut off both the belt and the strap on both sides, What do you reckon? My jacket came with the brass zipper and buttons and it's really beautiful.
I would give the belt time before making any modifications. Have seen many folks end up selling after removing it, realizing they actually preferred it with
@@DudsByDel I ended up cutting it, I'm in love with this jacket even more, suits my style better without the belt (used a scissor and then a large nail clipper to cut the edges out cleanly). I also used a dremel to polish the brass buttons and remove the schott logo on the buttons, it gives it a cleaner look in my opinion. My brass buttons were pretty badly discoloured due to oxidation to begin with. Next is to decide if i want the fur collar. It's used as a fashion jacket for me.
@@898orion the collar is pretty badass in my opinion, and if it’s cold enough to get use of it, totally worth it
What's the white T-shirt you are wearing throughout the video? Looks good on you
It’s actually just the plain Hanes white tee! I’d like to try the Costco ones, folks have told me they’re actually amazing
@@DudsByDel I usually get the naked and famous circular tshirts, but I also did get into the Merz b 1950 tshirts as well. Both great shirts, as is the Hanes
Picked up mine in SF during their Black Friday sale and love it, however this jacket really has 2 big rules to pulling it off. You can't be fat or have a mid section and you need to have confidence while wearing it.
Re: confidence, a lot of folks say something like “I could never pull that off” or whatever. But it’s easy as long as you get over being the only person in a “real deal” leather jacket most of the time
@@DudsByDel 100% facts, as a rider too it brings a really good feeling just standing next to a cheaper copy and seeing how apparent the difference in quality is from the overall fit to the zippers and 1 piece back panel.
Hi, I just realized that the inside pocket in your 618 is deeper than the one I've got in my 618hh...strange difference.
Ahh, that is strange and interesting. Wonder why 🤔
Love my 618 but man I gotta disagree with you on that map pocket. It's pretty much useless for anything but papers. I put my phone in there and it fell out when I bent over to pick something up. They should just put the same pocket they put in on the 118.
Also if you have something thick in there it totally bulges and makes the jacket too tight around the waist if you have it zipped up. For as much as we paid for these jackets schott should put a proper inside pocket or even two. Maybe a gun pocket as well. Vanson does that.
Guess I never bent all the way over so it hasn’t been an issue. It’s held my phone, wallet, flask and a few other random things. Nothing too big though. Having a bunch of internal pockets can be practical though each does add its own bulk under the shell of the jacket.
That's a good looking belt!!! What brand is it?
Thanks Richie. It’s made by Duke Mantee on Instagram. He does a lot of custom work this was very reasonable since it’s so simple
@@DudsByDel Thanks for the info! I'll check em' out
The steerhide breaks in so well. I wish they made a womans jacket out of steerhide?
Wait they don’t? Thats lame!
@@DudsByDel nahhh they don't. haha. they have a few cowhide and lambskin options for women. and i'm all for buying whatever gender jacket you like but I really do prefer women's jackets for the shorter length and curvier cut.
Sorry a'im asking . Schott perfecto biker jacket wearing to sleep damage no . Sir .
Not quite clear. Are you asking if wearing it to sleep will damage the jacket? It won’t hurt the jacket but you’ll probably get bad sleep!
All right sir . Thanks .
I wore it to sleep for a week to break in the jacket & it look awesome with the wrinkles!
ONE YEAR LATER: still bald
Better bald than never
Bald is fine and lots of women prefer, but it's the clinging onto a receeding hairline that makes most dudes look cringe
Maybe you can get a Perfecto hairpiece
Ouch😂
@@earlgallup5223 just need a few snaps riveted to my head to hold it in place 😂
don't tell people to like and subscibe..
I’ve stuck it in a few videos to try to see if there’s any measurable difference. Thanks for the input
overpriced Big time
Compared to what
He dont know lol @@DudsByDel
@@user-sb9hz4sr9q 😆👍
I am a biker myself so I do wear a jacket like that when I ride. When I do not ride I wear something else. What I find amazing is the number of men that want to play the biker tough guy look! I mean I could not play the role of a hipster so why are so many men trying to look like bikers when they do not ride! That makes you a fake in my world..
Chinos are military wear. Jeans are workwear from California. Polo shirts are for sports…originally. Folks can wear what they want. I don’t make up lies about anything
The Ramones all wore Schott Perfectos. I’d be pretty sure they never rode motorcycles either. I’ve typically always thought of the Perfecto as more of a punk jacket because of the rockstars that have worn it…. Not bikers. Leather jackets were originally for the military not bikers, just because it’s been adapted from military to biker, to punk, to whatever doesn’t make anyone pretender. Just makes you a gatekeeper.
You just don't look that cool in $1,000 jacket.. just go with the $139 Jacket.
Feel free then to look away!
I disagree. Think this jacket is worth it and Del looks great in it.
I need help from a shott perfecto expert :D and I will sub. My chest is 21.5 inches and my shoulders are 17 inches. I have a problem because sizes 38 and 40 are usually 19/20 inch! but in 17 inch and shoulder sizes they fit :( The question is, can I buy 20 inch and the "cushions" on the back of the shoulders will help me grab the steering wheel of the motorcycle? Because I checked in a 19 inch jacket, unfortunately it's hard to pull my arms forward (I checked in a regular jacket leather without "pillows" not perfecto jacket) I am asking for help from users of perfecto jackets because I am going crazy. I buy online where there are no returns.
Hey man from a size standpoint, my chest is about 20.5 inches and I wear a size 40. The jacket has good range of motion and I can reach forward without difficulty. If your chest is an inch bigger than mine, you may very well want to go for a size 42. Are you measuring your chest size with a soft tape around the largest part of your chest while wearing just a T-shirt?