The fullbacks and wingers who have changed the game | The Matty Johns Podcast
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- From Gary Jack to Billy Slater and Maika Sivo, Matty, Kenty and Blocker look back at the old role of the safe, diminutive speedsters to the all powerful wingers of today's game.
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I love this show, but the last 3 episodes have been sensational!
Darren Lockyer and Wayne Bennett change the role of Full-Back or Number 1 in Rugby League.
You Blues/NSW cannot recognise that, but us the fans who lived through that era knows the fact.
The Best FULLBACK, the Pioneer of the extra 5/8 at the back, and later the BEST 5/8, number 6. .....
Mathew Johns you are a sorry loser.
Billy was great but I never thought he changed the fullback position. Lockyer did. He was the first genuine ball playing fullback. That's why Bennett switched him to a 6.
Agreed Locky changed the way FB played but Billy enhanced the position
Locky played like an extra 5/8 when he played fullback. People forget how great he was at the back.
Darren Lockyer was one of the best fullback I've seen that change the fullback role from just back line player to a play maker
No not really
Professionals that play the game thinks not so Billys the better so.....no not really
100% Lockyer was the original.
Lockyer was the greatest fullback of all time.
Then became a great 5-8
@@butter790 you must be young
90’s kids knew exactly who Brett Mullins and Windel Sailor were🔥💪
Matty Johns is the reason I started a Rugby League Channel, absolute legend
No idea how best fullback discussions always leave Lockyer out. Also, Slater gets the vote due to his ball playing ability, well I'm sorry but Lockyer's ball play was far superior.
Darren Lockyer was the greatest ball playing fullback I have seen.
Not even close
People forget how clutch he was..
@@butter790 ahh you again
Was a freak! Had he stayed at fullback and not shifted to 5/8, Slater would’ve been on the wing for QLD for a lot longer
@@danielcarmichael8961 Slater would've been stuck on the wing if Hunt didn't go to AFL
Go back and look at Preston Campbell's Dally M run for the Sharks where he played Fullback,wing and halfs...... Unbelievable footy from a guy smaller than Alfie Langer.
6:45 Blocker uses the "half pai" term, as a Māori I always thought that was slang we only used? Love ole Blocker! #oldschooltigers
Peachey was an electric fullback and Matt Rogers an electric winger.
I dont understand why they never give lockyer the credit he deserves, slater was a better runner but lockyer was the best fullback that plays as a 2nd 5/8, he was the one that changed the position into a 3rd playmaker, and slater developed that later into his career lockyer had it at the start.
So True. simple fact. this is a NSW media outlet thus they cannot give credit where its due. The REAL GAME CHANGER. DARREN LOCKYER.
They are giving slater credit for changing fullback into another playmaker. Lockyer also had long kicking game short kicking game and excellent at field goals and drop-outs. Also once alfi langer and Kevin walters retired, lockyer was the best player for broncos and Queensland was Queensland's best chance of attacking creativity against a really good nsw team our hopes for tries and wins were on lockyer without much support from the halves, was like that until Smith and Thurston showed up and half of lockyers career was over. Slater always had Smith, cronk, 5/8 lockyer, Thurston to play behind
@Dredd King He played longer at fullback
No doubt, Billy"The Kid"Slater is the only number 1 🥇
Until Tedesco came along
@@scorpiuswireless1
You mean Turbo Tom.. 🤭
100%
Not sure how far this goes back. We know Churchill is written into folklore. But Langlands will always be handed the 1. And you can tell by these comments there is already and disagreement. Not so with Langlands.
@@kelbrian3307 Depends what boots he's wearing ?
Brett Stewart was a player with freakish ball skills as well. As a Manly fan, I'm glad to see Tommy Turbo developing this part of his game very well. Injuries played a massive part in Stewart's career, and sadly it looks like the same thing for Trbojevic.
Israel Folau is the formula to a perfect winger! Tall, strong, fast n could jump through the roof!
Lockyer set the template, Billy was just faster.
As wingers go, Brett Morris is always my first pick.
One name that rates a mention is Kyle Feldt. He’s as diversely reliable as Morris, with the longevity to boot.
Brett Stewart never seems to get a mention but was just as good as billy in the same era
I use to luv watching Wade MacKinnon play lovely mover terrific fullback and Taniela the tank Tuiaki was damaging out wide just a forgotten talent
As a pom Darren Lockyer all day he was insane
Matt Bowen changed the role! Added the playmaking role into it before Slater started doing it! Lockyer had a good kicking game but was still a wide runner at fullback!
It was actually Lockyer that changed the role of the fullback to becoming more of a ball player and organiser. These guys claim to be experts🤦
He was always snubbed, bloody blues
Too right about Penrith's fullback problem. Burton shouldve had a few games up his sleeve instead of Atkins while Edwards was out.
Where is Brett Stewart?
Great show and idea, the only thing I’d say is that there are now a lot of wingers who are like forwards and can’t go when grey need to…… balance required 👍
Sick of Brett Stewart Being left out of these convos he deserve to be in this
Unbelievably good player. He won that many games for us with his ball skills, and some of his incredible/freakish passes. Also, defensively fantastic, esp for a guy his size.
He had a great football brain.
Overshadowed at Manly by Tommy as well sad because Stewart had an unbelievable ability to score tries especially at brookie
Yes couldnt agree more about Billy Slater . The best footballer of all times.The players around him were blessed .
Lockyer , Thurston , Smith and Inglis were far more important then Slater was to that 8 year run
Will Chambers greatest player for me.
Lockyer revolutionized the position. Everyone knows that
Love the story about the Cleal brothers
Brent Webb was underrated, he was playing as a ball player even before Slater was.
What about setting defensive patterns and being the defensive general??? Locy would call the opposition play before they did... Slater only reacted. Darius is just lost 😂
I was at the North Sydney football game where he lost his front teeth and next he got up and made a try saving tackle.
Handcok was the same bounce off players
I started watching NRL in 2008 and I didn’t understand anything, what is prop all I know is they big, all I understand was whoever wears number 1 Jersey is a striker. Not a keeper like in football. Brett Stewart was the best striker for me, very skillful with the ball, Billy Slater was also another striker. Melbourne Storm was very physical for me. So yes Brett Stewart for me.
Great show but did you deliberately leave Lockyer out?
Karmichael Hunt was the game changer i reckon and Israel Folau for the wingers.
Billy the 🐐 fullback 🌩️⚡⛈️
Martin Offiah
If you want a try. Nathan Blacklock
Love Blocker!!!
Brett Mullins best fullback to watch
Daniel Tupou one of the best wingers 💯👌🔥
JT is good but he’s very surpassing Billy S, Lock and minechelo top class also imho Latrell M the best of this era
Yeah I never saw Lockyer ball play from fullback🙄 typical fox Sports Melbourne bias
Darren Lockyer enters the chat
Good stuff
steven knight ...big winger.....from the 70's
What about that time Billy threw the ball back for the Kiwis to score in the 2008 world cup. Sealed it haha.
Ricky had them way too cocky against a Benji led Bennett coached team
Love Ya Matty but let the boys finish their point before jumping in.
10:32 cleal story
Jarryd hayne by far.
Slater not even missed by his club replaced by 'Pappy'. Neither Slater or Lockyer will make the greatest 'ever'. However they probably both have the make the best QLD (although that's entirely up to the QLDers). So Lockyer has to be fullback, Slater has to be on the wing. The simple laws of deduction!
Wernt you guys wrong about Dylab Edwards hahaha
Weren't
@@ZIGSVIDS but you didn't pick up on the Dylan spelling error 🤭
I suppose nobody's heard of Matty Bowen
No we have... we are just comparing the best
Stuff And that Matt Bowen was the best! Slater is the greatest!
Andrew Johnson matty Bowen was good but I can think of at least 5 better fullbacks of that era
Stuff And that he’s in my top 5! Actually, he’s the best I’ve ever seen. No other fullback could score tries like Bowen! He’s highlights reels are better then all players! ua-cam.com/video/ZyY_ggsnNOY/v-deo.html
Andrew Johnson so now your saying he is better than slater
Where is Jarryd Hayne?
How about radradra, olam, sivo...don't they deserve to be in your discussion, 👍🤜🤛💪💪💪
funny that Paul Kent acts and talks like he played 300 first grade games
Inglis
Slater was an ok passer. Half his passes went over the sideline. Slater by all means was never a ball playing fullback. Overrated and nothing revolutionary about his play. He was a traditional fullback if anything. IMO Bowen, Carmichael hunt, GI and Hayne were all better than Slater. They just didn’t have the privilege of playing beside their mates in the same position for 16 seasons. Call a spade a spade when Slater was injured it wasn’t really a worry to any team he played for. You could replace a Billy Slater you could t replace a Greg Inglis.
Karmichael Hunt > Billy Slater
Kenty as a writer is good. He is someone who understands almost everything about the politics and business part of the game BUT as a speaker or 'talker' he is boring to listen to.Very cringe! I would not pay to listen to him speak.
has too many agendas
No hayne? You’re joking 🤦🏽♂️
They explained why, Jarryd was unreal for two years. Billy was great his whole career.
To mention Hayne is a joke... rocks and diamonds... although he may go well in his new side.... the m.r.r.c maulers .. the gaol side
@@jamesadlington2613 Billy was also in a way better team for a long period of time.
Gary Jack wasn't even the 4th best fullback of his era.
Billy, dirtiest player in the modern era. Not an ounce of respect for him.
cough cough Paul I take peptides by the Gallen says otherwise
Hayne and Barba changed the game