Do you need a Cloudlifter with SM7B & GoXLR?
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- In this video, we test to see if you need a Cloudlifter with the Shure SM7B and TC Helicon GoXLR. You typically need a Cloudlifter for one of two reasons:
1) Your interface doesn't supply enough gain.
2) Your interface supplies too much noise at the desired gain level.
We found that you don't need a Cloudlifter with the Shure SM7B and GoXLR.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
0:11 - Pricing & Specs
0:23 - Why Cloudlifter?
0:32 - Enough Gain?
0:55 - Preamp Noise
1:25 - No Cloudlifter SM7B
2:16 - With Cloudlifter SM7B
3:18 - Comparison
3:52 - Summary
4:41 - Final Thoughts
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Fast and relevant, that's all I needed, you deserve this like
I run a cloud lifter anyway, it take stress off the preamp simple, run anything flat out and it wears faster... great video and 100% worth adding a cloud lifter imo
That`s exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Thank you for addressing this! Awesome explanation!
Glad it helped!
Wildly informative video, helped me make my decision. Thanks so much!
Honestly it really depends on use. I've had the GoXLR and ShureSM7B for about a year with no Cloudlifter. It worked fine when I was streaming, but it was absolutely awful for recording vocals in songs. I finally caved this week and bought a Cloudlifter and not only does the vocals in my songs sound significantly better, but even the stream quality has improved somewhat.
Basically, if you only want it for streaming and nothing more, you can get by without the Cloudlifter, but otherwise you definitely need to add it
thank you this comment helped me decide xd. am buying a fake cloudlifter from my friend
This!
couldn't have say it better, i fortunely got the cloudlifter with the sm7b as a bundle(I already had the goxlr mini) and man the quality is way better with the cloudlifter
Hi, any chance you can tell me what your settings were for recording the goxlr with the cloudlifter on your shure?
You can hear how much moer clear his vocals and louder they got as well , once he plugged the Cloudliter in
hey Jordan and everyone at Kettner Creative! First off, I love your videos...well formatted, great delivery and very well done videos. I've listened to most of them in my search for a good sounding mic/mixer combination and your channel has been extremely helpful. I would like to say one thing about the recommendation here. I have this EXACT setup, and I followed the instructions in the other video about EQ\other settings for this mic\mixer and I could not get my voice to sound clear with the SM7B AT ALL. My friends kept telling me I sounded like I was sick or something. No matter what I tried I just didn't sound right. I was about to give up on the SM7B and try something else when I decided to bite the bullet and get a mic activator. And wow...what a difference! I sound as clean and clear as I have been wanting to the entire time. I *think* that's because I have a soft but low voice. My voice doesn't' carry very well at all and I had to turn the gain up to 69-70 to get into that "good" range with the goxlr. The activator allowed me to turn the gain down to a "normal" level and still be heard. So if anyone is like me and just can't get these two to play nice...despite all the settings you've tried. Get that mic activator...it's worth it!
if you've made it this far, thank you for reading my book
You're very welcome Paul, it was a great read. Is there a place I can get a hard copy? If not I'll settle for paperback. After doesn't work, I'll take a picture book.
Jk. I'll keep this advice in mind if I choose to go with a GOXLR. I'm sold on the SM7B and for sure a Cloudlifter, whether I end up with a GOXLR or some kind of mixer, possibly from Yamaha I'll have to see.
Excellent videos! It’s been very helpful
That was very helpful, thank you very much.🙌
This was extremely helpful, thank you
AGAIN you answered my questions, who are you, where did u come from, my hero. THX
My Goxlr settings reset after like years so i thought my mic or something was broken trying to keep using it as dynamic thank god i found this video using a cloud lifter turns it into a condensor
Helpful Video thanks alot
That's what i want. Thanks a lot 😁
Thanks for this
I love your videos!
Glad you like them!
For general streaming and UA-cam gameplay voiceover recordings it's more than enough without it, I know because I've been using both together, and without the cloudlifter as well and the difference was really negligible. If you're using it for professional music applications or a podcast without any background music, I'd get a fethead instead to save yourself more money and you get more clean gain. Another bonus for the fethead is that you only require 1 cable after you've connected it to the preamp instead of the cloudlifter requiring 2, which could even help lower noise floor.
ty ♥
Thanks for sharing the review. how did you are able to get your logos on screen . What software is need to install this. thanks
Thx for the video and sry for my bad english, i just wanted to ask you : did the +24V of the goxlr mini enough to power a couldlifter ?
great content
Thank you.
I just got a Go XLR Mini today in addition to a Shure SM7B. I am also building a new PC which will have a a SoundBlaster AE-5 Plus sound card. I'm wondering if there will be any downside to passing the audio output from the sound card through the Go XLR Mini and then to my Sennheiser PC38x headset. I am looking forward to the DAC and 7.1 virtualization the sound card will provide and I'm hoping I won't loose any fidelity by doing this. I assume I would be best served by using an optical cable between the two. Any input is appreciated.
Hey I had a question about my go xlr mini I have a arc amp dac that I wanted to use with my headphones but i can’t if I have it plugged into my go xlr is there a way I can use my arc amp dac and still have my headphones plugged into my go xlr?
Can you make a video on the best settings when using the SM7B with a cloudlifter plugged into the GoXLR?
Same settings, just less gain. But I don't think you need to use the cloudlifter with this setup.
Can I return my Focusrite+ Se Dynamite for Go Xlr mini?
Yessir
Would this help me lower breathing noise? By having a lower gain?
I have a question Kett and please respond cuz I commented before and you never responded like a year ago lol. I got the GoXLR Mini recently and I have it connected with my CloudLifter and Shure SM7B, what are the best EQ settings for it? I have watched your GoXLR and GoXLR Mini setup videos so which one should I follow for EQ, while using the cloudlifter with GoXLR Mini ?
I have watched so many videos trying to find a video using the SM7b in conjunction with the TC helicon voicelive 3 extreme without any joy and so many of the videos reviewing the voicelive 3 extreme sound not great with a excessive amount of effects would love to see you review that combination
I'll add it to the list.
Thank you for your great in dept and informative. Helping my small youtube channel MoeMeta
Happy to help!
Can you use to use SM7B & Focusrite Solo & GoXLR as a combination to get the best audio & sound possible from these items to stream ?
So many comments asking you if they should buy a cloud lifter... It's literally what your video is about. 😣
Hey love your vids bro! I do have a huge question tho,.... how did you even use the goxlr on the Mac, I have a goxlr and Mac and sm7b but can’t seem to find a video of it working on a Mac?
@RxspxctChop nice pun ahah
Just saw this now. I run my Mac in Bootcamp/Windows when I have to use the GoXLR
my goxlr mini isnt showing my sm7b is connected what do i do?
When i plug my razer nari x headphones in the back with an aux cord i can only hear in one ear but when i plug in earphones i hear perfectly do you think getting a preamp would help and allow more power to reach my headset ?
Are you using an L shaped aux cable? I have the same issue with my blackshark v2 pro. I have to turn the cable because it is L shaped to get level hearing
Hey brotha any way you can help me with my setup? I need help figuring this all out
Can you do a mic setup for the røde procaster
It's on the list, but we have quite a bit in front of it.
Hi , i have the same setup . I'm using around 60db basic gain + some make-up gain in compressor , the thing is , in my headphones i can hear a lot of gain noise . Maybe cause im living and streaming in noisy environment , my pc fans trying their best to cool my 3080ti xDD and no acoustic foams at all . Nevertheless , you have pretty clean natural voice , forget about gain noise , in OBS i have some FX noise reduction applied , but my voice sound like , no natural at all , i have tried lot of EQ settings but not happy at all . Can Cloudlifter provide really clean natural voice ? maybe i am just audio noob unable to set-up things correctly , who knows :) .
Do you fix it?
I have the same problem with the noise of my fans on this mic xD
The 4i4 has 56db of gain. Is that enough to push the SM7b or would you still recommend a cloud lifter? Thanks.
not enough, if you push the preamp to the limit it will add a lot of noise
@@Thug-dr5cz got a cloud lifter works fine.
@@MetalHeadHippie yeah, thats the best solution, 56db of gain is really not great for the sm7b, focusrite scarlett and cloudlifter is a pretty good combo
What about using 2 pre amps in line with each other? My setup already consists of this.. have 8 of my 16 channels going through a second 8 ch pre, can adjust volume on both in stages. Would this get similar results as cloud lifter?
Hello, I would like to buy the Shure mv7 microphone with the tc helicon GO XLR mixer. Do I have to buy an additional cloudlifter? a big thank you to you
No, you don’t need one
I can't think of a mic where you would need a Cloudlifter with the Go XLR or Mini. That Midas preamp which is in both the XLR and Mini is powerful.
@@kettnercreative what is the best mic for gaming/streaming i want the clearest quality
Hey probably not the best place to ask, but I'm currently deciding on buying a goXLR mini myself with the SM7B, and I was wondering if I can run my headphones through the goXLR and still have good audio quality?
They're currently routed to my motherboard and sound pretty amazing, but I was assuming that they'd be even better plugged into the goXLR itself, only to read that people are saying audio sounds way worse when plugged into it, any thoughts or tips?
Yes you can. It doesn't sound way worse, it just might be a bit quieter.
@@kettnercreative Tysm, I have a little follow up question. When using the goXLR does the app have to be running for the EQ / noise gates to work for the sm7b? Or does it have onboard memory somehow and you can have the app turned off. (also does it affect the goXLR itself, AKA the sliders / buttons when app is turned off)
I'm having an issue with this mic, I hear a hiss every time I speak into the Livestream. Would the cloud lifter fix this issue? I am also using a GOXLR.
It sounds like your noise gate and gain are setup incorrectly. When you're speaking and deactivating the noise gate it's likely revealing that you have too much makeup gain set in the compressor.
@@kettnercreative ohhh okay what would you recommend I do to fix the issue
@@kaandiddygaming7766 Try these settings; kettnercreative.com/audio-mixer/goxlr-sm7b-setup-settings/
What is the cables you need to get for the goxlr
Just a regular xlr cable
Can we get a review to the mini-version of the GoXRL?
Still trying to get our hands on one
@@kettnercreative Does the pre amp on the mini xlr is the same as the go xlr?
@@RodovalPTY late response but yes they use the same amp so the levels he shows here are going to be the same with the mini :)
@@kettnercreative wanna trade the mini for your full? i got one in perfect condition!
@@chunk764 I have one of each now.
just curious but if i have to switch it to a condeser microphone than why not just get a difrent microphone entirely? if its not dynamic whats the point of this mic at all?
The Shure SM7B is highly regarded for rejecting background noise.
Hello, I was looking to get a shire sm7b and a Go XLR. Although to run it, I didn’t know if I had to get a cloud lifter or not. Does anyone know what I should do?
You don't need a cloudlifter if you have good mic placement.
Is it possible to use a Go XLR Mini without a cloudlifter? :)
I believe so, with 61db it’s really close though. We are wanting to test it soon
Im using xlr mini cloudlifter and shure sm7b and can only set up with condenser about to try to disconnect cloudlifter to try and setup under dynamic so the background noise isn’t so ungodly horrible
@@austinlink7817 Hows it sound with the GO XLR mini
I got the goXLR mini do I need the cloudlifter for the shure sm7b
Same pre amp so the video applys the same
Why will my mic not work? I have everything plugged up
It's still louder with the cloud lifter even after you dialed it back, it's not possible to make a comparison from the video really.
I had an at2020 and heard 0 background noise
Does that also apply for the TC Helicon GoXLR Mini?
It should the amps are the same
Yes
@@c3rvx do you know how to turn on phantom power? Or does it do it automatically?
@@magiclvl0 I think it automatically turns it on (i might be wrong)
I am having a problem for when I stream with this setup. I have my gain fairly higher than yours, and my voice is noticeably not near as loud as my console buddies when we’re playing games together. Also, the game volume and or music isn’t very loud either and it’s hard to hear me. Any suggestions?
Move the mic closer, double check your output matrix and output volumes.
Short answer: No.
I cant for the life of me remember what that outro song is called lol
I also forget what it's called, but it's from the UA-cam stock library.
@@kettnercreative its such a bop I gotta remember haha. Good vid btw. I didnt realize the GOALS had a preamp in it. Should've known aha
@@YTOxygenLess scarlet fire its called
@@TheHeroicManYT ty kind robloxian
haven't watched it, but I'm assuming no, because the goxlr supplies 70 somethin decibels of gain
It's just just about the gain, it's about how much noise comes with the gain.
Should I buy the cloudlifter an how many xlr cable I need to connect it for the goxlr
We answer this in the video.
i hear a difference in sound, with the cloud lifter it sounds louder
the sound of the cloudlifter is more quiet lmao, that is why you'd get a cloudlifter in the first place if you wanted to keep the noise to a minimum.
If you think it's worth getting a cloudfilter to keep the noise a lil bit more quiet, go for it.
y do u look like michael scofield
Jordan is just my online name. In reality I’m a fugitive.
@@kettnercreative Dope cover , as an audio engineer doing yt videos lol
Lolol
The answer is no, saved you 5 minutes.
why does my shure s7mb pick up so much back ground noise from my fan :( everytime i talk it picks up my fan from my background and cuts my voice out sometimes. I'm about to return this junk its tilting me
If you are using a goxlr you should play with the gate to reduce thr background noise -38db is perfect for my room and the background noise this should help you i hope i solved ur issue
@@mr.7soon.x705 Yeah its not working i tried playing with it. I its picking up my humidifier/fan. I heard the shure sm7b has the highest ground noise level so it picks up stuff in my room. So probably going to return the goxlr sadly
Too much gain it's not good for the lifetime of your microphone, so... cloudfilter protects your mic (and sounds better) !
I have a problem, it’s sounds so much noise with 60db, the reason: the fans of my PC.
I need to put the mic on 60 on the goxlr
Do I need this cloud lifter to reduce the noise of my fans?
@@CUBiTOmx no
Does this guy have a lisp or is it the desser
He's using a soundboard