Yeah and whats horrible is her younger siblings dont even want to stay with her. Not because shes bad - shes probably the best thing thats ever been in their lives - but they have all been brainwashed by Jodi and Ruby to think that she is evil and satan reincarnate.
That's how much fear those psychotic fucks inflicted onto CHILDREN. Innocent little beings that haven't done anything wrong, and yet somehow in their fucked up heads they decided that kids deserved to be abused for whatever bullshit beliefs they held for religion.
I'm surprised he was able to keep it together as much as he did! Realizing that the kids next door are being hurt and you didn't know so you couldn't do anything is just awful. He showed more concern than any of the "parents" in this situation!!
It makes me so mad, like where did he think his kids were for a year? They’re still his children, him and ruby being separated is no excuse. I would be asking left and right how my babies were doing.
I don't believe he didn't visit or see his children at all during that one year. He must've seen something was wrong, ignored and obviously couldn't care less. he might not be 'directly' involved, but he's complicit to a degree.
Right!? There’s no way those kids got to the state they were in in just the year he conveniently left to handle his drug addiction. He knew exactly what was going on but the whole charade is what kept getting them money
I don't think the authorities disagree with you, but they have to put a case together and prove it. while it is unlikely he didn't know: 1) they still have to gather evidence of his knowledge of the abuse and 2) they wish to convict the custodial parent. both are easier it they don't seem to be going after the dad. I am pretty sure that the dad has not escaped the authorities notice. they just want their eventual case to stick and they don't want people (jury) to go easy on the mom because the kids will have no parents left, so they convict mom and then they get dad. he's not going anywhere and the kids are being cared for. that is my take.
@@theoverunderthinkerthis! It sucks so bad. You can tell he knows but you’re so right. They have to have enough evidence. Does anyone know if there’s family they have that maybe they’ll go to? I hate the idea of all these kids bouncing from foster to foster. I know there’s some amazing fosters out there but I feel like it’s very common to hear about foster abuse too/: do they have cousins that aren’t like this? Grandparents?
Poor girl. It may sound trivial, but having your head shaved unwillingly is humiliating and demoralizing for a young girl. They took away part of her identity.
@JMOlsen_ That happened to a good couple of my male freinds growing up. Once as punishment for having long hair as a 5th grader (as if it was his responsibility to get it cut). Even the teachers would tease them. One friend broke down crying over it and the teacher was so gd belittling and evil about it, I started destroying his dumb teaching aids when he wasn't looking.
I’ve heard that honey is a natural antiseptic so I get its use as an emergency treatment IF nothing else is available UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, and while proper medical treatment can be sought out and provided, but in this case… just no.
@@AmethystNotTakenit’s like they were trying to simultaneously irritate the wounds and keep them from becoming septic I guess. But obviously they’re just evil since they caused the wounds in the first place.
It's cayenne and honey mixture, some kind of holistic remedy, which might've worked to some degree (pain and burning aside) but they wrapped it up in saran wrap instead of bandages.......... pure evil
Whilst my parents wouldnt put substances on my wounds, they wouldn’t treat them, so I would experiment with different substances to stave off infection/pain.
And he tried to put it in a more delicate way saying "He was detained" because he knew R****l was listening and didn't want him to get upset if he said "Tortured" or something else
Kevin Franke needs to be arrested and charged on child abuse and Neglect as well. He knew damn well ruby was starving the toddler at 4 years old and posting videos about it online and he allowed it. And while knowing what rubys capable of, abandoned his children with ruby for a year and was more worried about getting his daughter arrested over a laptop than the condition and state of his children....
Yes I still remember videos from years ago when he was in the home. What are his excuses for taking his oldest son's mattress and sending to an outdoor survival camp all summer, all for playing a harmless prank.
Kevin didnt commit a criminal offense to the knowledge of anyone. Ruby wasn't starving E in that video she was being a harsh and cruel parent. Also, how would he know what she's capable of if she was never this extremist until meeting jodi ( this info is in a yt video the oldest daughter made saying she knew her parents were strict but it just got worse when they met jodi) . He does not deserve his kids back for sure and hopefully no visitation bc one thing he did do is allow this to happen
@jadynariana he should be investigated and that laptop and journal of his seized. Youre assuming he only knwew what we knew as far as the "harsh" punishments, but that camera wasnt on 24/7 If he was protective of those kids those comments about "getting rid of all my pets" and shit like that would have set him off. I dont believe for 1 second he hasnt done or witnessed anything all this time
@@karnagekarnival5127 and i dont disagree that he needs to be investigated and that when the cameras weren't on we have no idea what was going on but imo theres so much actual information on them when they were a vlogging channel that outside of being extremely religious and borderline extremists nothing was inherently illegal. even the oldest daughter has elaborated on this. i just think and its only my opinion that he is not innocent but he is also not criminally responsible (as of now) so bringing up actions that you would call signs imo is kinda revisionists history and just assuming based on your own beliefs is not how the law approaches being guilty.
@@jadynariana I think absolutely on the neglect front, I hate kids personally but I still cannot fathom being a parent and not having an issue with seeing your kid, or when the police are telling you in the interrogation room that your kids were abused to the point where the duct tape used to restrain them melted into their flesh and the wounds were so severe that it made first responders (who are usually first on scene to horrific accidents) are put to tears by the brief sight and that they're lucky to be alive, and the first thing you ask the police about after hearing that is not "are my kids okay" but "did you guys recover the money in the bag?". Tells you exactly where his priorities are. Not to mention the jail calls where he's scheming with Ruby as to how to get the kids back into their custody despite him knowing she was abusing them like that. Disgusting. All 3 of them needs to be kept far away from every single one of those kids. The only reason he's divorcing Ruby and not contacting her right now is literally because they schemed this with attorneys and through jail cell calls to try to make sure Kevin has the best chance at getting the kids, they said that much on a recorded jail cell call.
The amount of courage the little boy must have had to escape, knowing what the consequences would be if caught as he was caught multiples times beforehand. It is heart and gut-wrenching
I listened to all the journal entries and body cam footage. Ruby would tell R that he was bad and was going to end up in jail. When he went to the neighbors house, he was actually asking for the cops to take HIM to jail. Which makes it even sadder
She described Eve, her 9 yr old as putting on a show and trying to manipulate her, because she was banging her head on the ceramic tile floor..... Her entire Life centered on torturing those sweet kids. They were even planning on moving to a remote area in Arizona so she could force them to work in the desert away from witnesses.
@@valeriebumblebee7607He said it was a personal matter. And told the old man it was his fault. Ruby told him it's either me, or you go to jail. He thought jail was a better option.
He participated in the psychological abuse and openly supported Ruby starving them, all captured forever on UA-cam videos and reuploads. If he had any decency he would leave them alone and let sane people try to help them heal.
In an interview with the police station and officers, they said that because young children’s lives were involved they had probable cause to search Jodi’s house immediately without a warrant
Exactly. If RF was in good health, then it might be a different story. He was in a devastating state which caused police inspection of the house to be legit and reasonable.
Imminent danger? They knew children were involved and needed medical help. Surely the rights of the children outweigh any that the "mother" may have ? The awful things that police see must be appalling and disturbing . They are to be commended .
@@feraltaco4783 That psychopath was doing those things to children because of a god and religion she believed in. "God" has no part in any of this bub
5:25 if “the smell of marijuana” is enough to warrant probable cause in a traffic stop, an emaciated child with restraints would have to warrant at least a similar response… no warrant needed
What is really heartbreaking is for years this has been going on, people called cps and neighbor reported the children being outside and unsupervised at times. The eldest was trying to get her mother reported, and is working for custody of her younger siblings. And now the whole case is reviewing and going "Welp, we should give the husband custody. We are adult people who are smart and we have studied this case from day uno." None of this is a surprise to TOO MANY PEOPLE. The internet does not forget these vile creatures attempted infanticide on their own children. Utah really is proving to be pathetic in regards to child protections.
When that little girl walked out of that room, I was absolutely devastated by how skinny she was, and how dejected her walk was. This is pure evil. Absolutely evil. There are no words to describe this kind of cruely.
I saw the uncensored footage and it’s so much worse when you see just how bad their wrists were cut up and how skinny they were. The emt’s and police on site mentioned how you could smell flesh because under the wraps on their wrists the skin was beginning to deteriorate. And the skin on their arms and legs was thick especially around their ankles and wrists because of just how much scarring from the frequent abuse and torture. Like they weren’t just starved they were emaciated because they hadn’t had access to water in who knows how long. Their clothes just hang on their little bodies they’re so big on them.
What’s worse is that the pantry upstairs was completely stocked and very Instagram mom aesthetic. Like TONS of food all organized and put in cute little display jars with neat labels and yet there were two children starved almost to death locked in the basement
Some are saying that’s probably why the boy was asking to go to the police. Not to get help necessarily but because he thought going to jail he’d at least get some food and water. Apparently jail was a threat Ruby and Jodi would use against the kids.
@@alexmiguel351it was. In the diary entries, she said he had to deal with her or jail. He said "jail where I belong." So the diary entries back this up.
I came across a clip recently where one of them, sitting in jail, claimed, “They must not want people to discipline their kids anymore!” (Jaw drops) No, people aren’t against you because they’re against children being disciplined. People aren’t against you because they’re against raising children. They don’t have an issue with those things. They’re against you because of the absolutely vile and unholy terror you unleashed upon innocent children. Your treatment of those innocent children was so terroristic, cruel, and heartless that labeling it “sadistic” feels like it would be an insult to sadism. What is wrong with some people that they think “not being soft on children” means “I must brutalize children and demean them in every conceivable way”? It’s like they can only see the extremest of extremes.
The fact that she took her little girl’s hair away says so much. A lot of people think, “oh it’s just hair,” but for a girl, especially a young girl, there is so much psychological damage done when her hair is taken and she is unprepared or unwilling. The act of shaving a young girl’s hair like that says “I own you. I am in control, I can take your beauty and confidence away.” Franke wanted power and to completely crush her children’s spirits. It was so heartbreaking to see that poor little girl curled up and starving in the dark like that. She’d been completely broken down, body, mind, and soul. I hope all the inmates in Franke’s prison see this on the TV or hear about this and decide what they want to do about it.
That's why the Nazis shaved everyone's heads in the prison camps, too. Heck, the military used to do the same thing to new recruits. I have no idea if they still do.
Sadly idk what kind of prison she’s gonna go to, but that attitude of prisoners “serving justice” is mostly in men’s prisons. Maybe she won’t be separated in a woman’s ward
@@mamaluigi0993 there’s gen pop justice in women’s prison too. That’s why Yolanda Saldivar is in solitary for her own safety. On top of that, many inmates were hurt as kids too and they’ll want justice for Franke’s kids.
@mamaluigi0993 . In women's prisons a lot of those inmates are separated from their own children. So not only are they upset because a lot of them were abused as children, in addition they see a child abuser and think "I would do anything to be with my kids, and here you are abusing yours." Doesn't matter if it's men's prisons or women's prisons, if you're there because you did something to a kid, especially your own, you are a target.
I saw the uncensored photos of the children's injuries and they are horrifying! The daughter has scars all up and down her body from being thrown into cactuses and the son had giant open wounds on his wrists and ankles from being hog tied basically. Absolutely disgusting that anyone would do this to any child! I think Utah needs to change their "30 years max" rule
Yea and under the wraps of duck tape and plastic their skin had begun to break down which was the source or the flesh smell the first responders kept commenting on.
The fact that they would rub pepper into those wounds and needed medical equipment (maybe to not take them to the hospital when they needed it) is really chilling 😢
There’s no way in the hottest hell is he innocent in all this. Ruby was evil to her kids way before she got involved with the other women , so there’s no way he wasn’t involved somehow. Those poor kids, hope they can heal and grow up without trauma. Just hope the dad doesn’t get full custody.
He was in the videos with some abuse on full display. He may not have known fully what went on when they split, but there is no way he didn't know some level of abuse was going on. I really hope they keep those kids away from him.
Dad has absolutely no interest in his kids, he only wants custody now in hopes that it doesn’t look like purposely abandoned his kids. Even during the 8 passenger day, he seemed so distant when around his family.
One of the saddest parts to me, is that kid wasn't even looking for escape. He wanted to go to jail because they made him believe he was a vile thing that needed to be locked away.
@@caitolent That was because the 911 operator told the neighbor to ask about other children possibly in the house. The boy who escaped only asked for police to be called, that's all. In fact when the neighbor asked why he needed police, he wouldn't say. He never actually even asked for food and water, the kind people just gave it to him (although it seemed like he was about to ask for it and decided not to 😢). Bcause of how it was reported, I thought for a long time that no matter what those monsters did, they never succeeded in breaking his mind. But it seems that this was wrong. He's still a hero because of what his escape helped uncover but it is very clear that they truly twisted the way he thought about himself. Which is just one more layer of horrible.
@@brandonwilliams4050Im just hoping those kids can break their conditioning with time and be able to cope with what they went through and what they were made to believe. These types of situations are especially scary because a lot of the time that conditioning doesnt get broken and they spend their whole lives blaming themselves.
Cayenne pepper in open wounds and shaving their head as punishment? Seeing that little girl in the closet shook me to my core. I hope these babies find peace somehow.
Just wanted to add; I saw a clip of an interview that they did with the ambulance staff that showed up and cared for the boy where they state that as they were cleaning his wounds and getting him taken cared of, he just sat there and didn't react to what must have been incredibly painful. She said any normal person would've at least flinched at being touched, but he just sat there emotionless. It told her that he must have suffered so much pain at the hands of Ruby and Jodi that he'd just gone numb to it. That alone is absolutely horrific to think about.
The ring camera footage is breaking my heart man, that kid sounds so exhausted. That woman is no longer human, how can you do that to someone, your own KIDS. Hell is hot
if i remember correctly, the kid went to several homes before this one. people werent home. some had cameras and you can see him, how defeated he is that people werent home. it is heart wrenching.
Ruby Franke's relatives said that she was abused and food was used as a punishment when growing up. That's why it seemed normal to her, and she thinks people are overreacting... Not to excuse her. Many people are abused and never harm anyone.
I watched a video where they read the entire journal and it is TERRIBLE. She was going to kill those kids, no doubt. She would set them up to fail and abuse them when they did. She HATED those kids. And dad was nowhere to be seen.
@@Zeeboklown There are several on UA-cam. I don't remember the creator of the one I watched but you can just search for complete journal. I'll warn you though. It's much worse than anything shown with Ken and Dane.
Disgusting human being. Even if dad was absent during that time period and is telling the truth, why would CPS give custody to a man who basically ditched his children and whose children didn’t think it was ok to even try and make contact? An absent parent who is just suddenly gonna show up won’t fly with CPS
What bothers me with the "father": - Was there from the start of the channel and had no issues with he punishments (including the 6 months without a room) - Complies directly to move away from his wife - Moves away from his wife, but don't try to see his children for more then a year - Is called by Jodi to come get the kids (but has no contact with her) - Tried so bad to get his laptop back - Tried to get his daughter arrested and put in jail - Talks about him and his wife during the interrogation, but almost nothing about the kids. - I more interested in the definition of some words when the inspectors described what was done to his kids, then the actual state his kids are in now - and much more .. And now he plays the saint and want to take care of his kids? Sure
@deereye87 Yes that could be the case. They are also very religious. That could play in all this. I find it very strange that the possible involvement of the Mormon church is not discussed or investigated. Jodi was appointed by the church.
@deereye87Dude, Mormonism is already a cult. Some of things they are believe are insane just like scientologists. Here is an example, women that go to heaven are destined to continuously birth children for eternity according to their more hidden beliefs.
This is a good summary of some of the sh1t that makes that man entirely sus. He comes off as only caring about the wife and caring little for the wrongs done to his children. He was complicit in way too much prior to Jodi coming on scene, and frankly he's lacking in care for the kids current status. If he wins custody, I can guarantee it's just going to be some variant of what Roob Feckless did to the kids herself. He's not interested in his kids, he wants his wife's admiration. That's why he moved out the way he did and obeyed every order/edict she gave without a fight or question. It's why he didnt see the kids at her request without a moue of concern - because he cares more about pleasing Roob than he cares for the kids. Disgusting people, hope the daughter that's suing for custody gets the kids. More of a chance the remaining minors will have some form of decent life...
I’ve taken law classes and I was a mandatory reporter for a long time. One, cops only need probable cause to search. They had a kid with physical wounds who gave a witness testimony, that was more than enough. Two, when it comes to child abuse, the law is very lenient to those who report because they never want anyone to be dissuaded from reporting if they suspect something. Even if it’s wrong, and CPS and police time is wasted, they’d rather waste it and be wrong than not waste it and be right.
Years ago we had a petition to get them off UA-cam- the dad was right there in it all- how he is not in jail is a crime in itself. Neighbors reported them to police for years as well
"If he wants to emulate the savior he needs to be 100% obedient with exactness. No wavering. No (not sure what this says)." These people have lost their damn minds.
Any male who walks away from 6 children he fathered and has no contact with them for over 12 months, has no right to either call himself a man nor a dad. Surely there's something he can be charged with, he knew Jodi was a sadistic nut job, in fact everyone knew and no one did anything.
We still have no idea on the dads side. He could of been trying to get them the entire time and she kept trying to get him away. This happened to Gypsy case.
He didn’t even talk to the older kids too like two of them were out of the house. The daughter was away at college and the son was actually asked to go with him when he left and he kept him for a few weeks then he got tired of the whole “raising a teenage boy” thing so he kicked him out and that child was homeless/ couch surfing for a bit until one of his friends families took him in and he was with them until he graduated high school at least. But yea nothing says father of the year like estranging your eldest daughter for not wanting to be a cash cow and go to college, and throwing out your teenage son onto the street.
@@CrazyCatMom24considering he was there for things like taking away beds as punishment and making the little kids miss Christmas as punishment, I kind of doubt he was actually all that worried about it. Also, it seems like he still had rights to the kids up until Ruby was arrested essentially. It should not have been nearly that difficult for him to figure out what was happening. He either knew, or didn’t care enough to know. He also admits to having willingly left knowing that she was super unstable. He left the kids with someone he knew was extremely unstable.
@@CrazyCatMom24we actually dooo know the dads side, it’s not like their lives were secret. He is not innocent and I hope they keep the children safely away from him.
As bad as you say it was it was worse. The little boys skin was coming of under the tape. They thought it was tape or plastic wrap but it was his skin. That little 9 year old girl sat in that room for 4 hours before they were able to talk her out. Thank god they allowed the time and did not force her out. Ruby’s diaries are filled with the abuse she did on these two children. She would make them stand in the sun for hours and every time they tried to get in the shade she pushed them back into the sun. She would poke them with cactus to force him in the sun because he is a demon. She would put her hands on his mouth and nose and puts him under the water in the pool. Ruby deserves to serve every bit of that 30 years and I hope she does.
I can’t even imagine… forced out into the blazing sun and heat. I sunburn easily and it is painful enough. But to then have cactus needles to poke, prod and hit too?!?! Sadistic! Those poor kids… Forced endurance torture too, like something from a black ops interrogation sight. Vile and inhumane
I remember hearing the 911 call from the neighbor. I had even made a comment saying the neighbor loves those kids more than their own parents. Poor guy was almost in tears when he described the boy's condition to dispatch. I REALLY hope those kids don't go to their father. He's going to be just as abusive and manipulative, probably blaming them for his wife being jailed. Disgusting.
The fact that the boy told the neighbors it was personal business breaks my heart. It just makes me feel like he didn't want to tell on his parents for doing what they were, but still needed so much help :(
@@zannadunstrand6289It’s a law in Utah. People charged with 2nd and/or 3rd degree felonies can only serve a maximum of 30 years on consecutive sentences. If the charge was 1st degree it would be 5 years to life imprisonment. A capital charge would be life without parole or a death sentence. A stupid law imo 😡
What ticks me off about this case( besides the vile abuse) is that there is a lack of personal responsibility for this. Even her diary is like that, everything is the children’s fault. The father??? Did this just start? No it’s been going on for awhile and he was complacent in it…
She literally catalogued her abuse and acts of psychopathy against children. She took time, out of seemingly most days, to write down just how fucked up she was, and never once realized "huh, this is fucked". Fully writing down her own incriminating evidence, and not a single inkling of wrong in her fucked up mind.
Rubys journals are so hard to listen too. She’s so abusive and has a warped sense of reality. She calls her kids demons and calls her abuse love. I could barely listen to the whole thing.
Ruby was doing this before she met Jodi. Jodi certainly exacerbated Ruby's very strict/brutal parenting style. Just watch some old clips of 8 passengers, it was her abuse that got her channel cancelled.
I really don't recommend anyone look at the uncensored photos of the kids' wounds, but I'm dead serious when I say they looked like they were in a concentration camp or war zone. Their ankle and wrist wounds were down through the muscle. I genuinely believe they would have gone septic within days, if they hadn't died of starvation or heat exhaustion first. The first responders said they could smell their flesh immediately. Ruby and Jodi constantly called them evil and possessed, and were definitely going to k*ll them. After reading Ruby's journal, all nuance disappeared for me. She was not only complicit, but actively participating and even giddy about ab*sing her own children.
They can go in the house without a warrent because it is considered a life-saving measure. Also finding the child that says there is others gives them probable cause.
The pain in the neighbor's voice in the 911 call tears me apart every time and hearing how the kid spoke is just so much more awful. They're just two people trying to be brave for others. The neighbor for him, and him for his siblings. I just hope those kids are getting a lot of love and safety and know everyone is rooting for them.
At 5:10 you wouldn’t need a search warrant, if there’s exigent circumstances like this, they can articulate why they went in there. Or like Dan said, they could’ve got a search warrant signed by a judge extremely fast based on the circumstances.
I scrolled down to say the same. Some people will call it probable cause, but the correct term is exigent circumstances, as FilosofoCA said. If they think someone is trying to destroy evidence, are currently chasing a fleeing suspect, or feel harm may occur to the police or a third party, they don't need a warrant. It was legal for them to come in for the last in that list to protect the remaining children.
Yeah it’s usually case by case. If the justifiably have a reason to search the house (child endangerment). Then they can search for the safety of the possible victim in danger. Of one children ran away being taped down and injured. It’s not hard to assume the other kids are in danger. Either they can be abused to figure out where the other child is or worse could be killed out of anger from the parents. You can’t really just wait for things like that because it can become a life or death situation for the other children in the home. Which yeah I feel is definitely reasonable. I don’t want to wait for the gov to give permission to safe me if I was in those kids shoes. They needed action right away. Because time is precious.
Yes they had probable cause that a crime was being commited and someone was in danger. And her attorney would have told her that (if she actually told her lawyer the truth)
@@feraltaco4783dude was ok sending his eldest son to a wilderness thing where kids are known to report abuse with one even dying and he was aware of all the punishments so the fact he acted upset is disgusting
They might. I believe Utah is one of the states that does reunification of parents and children (even after abuse) rather than letting them stay in foster care. I suppose they could say he didn’t actually do anything but I hope DCYF look into him carefully before giving them over. If they’re gonna reunify them, why not give them over to the eldest sister or other relatives?
I’m fairly certain that the eldest daughter has custody of/ is fostering the two older kids but the two younger kids they’re only telling the public that they’re with a foster and they’re doing better now but I don’t blame them for not telling the public exactly where the two youngest kids are since they’re so young and we’re the center of all of this abuse
The thing that infuriates me is how they both gave attitude like "how dare you arrest me, you have no right, I am superior." Especially Ruby, she was looking down her nose at the officers the entire time and continued to keep some semblance of control and power by not speaking at all. They're both sorry excuses of human beings.
I like to think the stoicism of that psycho Ruby was because she knew she was caught and had no way out of it, her only choice was to shut her mouth and reep the consequences, but your sadly probably right. Those snide fucks probably felt like they were in control and would get away with it, acting like their better than the cops trying to save children they abused
Some people are so entitled they think they can just give their side and the police (or other authorities) will go, “Oh, well, in that case, you’re free to go! So sorry to have bothered you!” It usually happens when people have their own personal echo chambers in which nothing they do is questioned.
@karaoconnoraliasraidra and unfortunately, this is the world we are increasingly finding ourselves in... people that have only experienced their own echo chamber until they go viral and get the chance to spew their completely deluded view of the world to the masses.
Well of course. God is on their side, you know. They were fighting against the devil that had possessed those horrid little child shaped demons. (SARCASM) But seriously, that's probably similar to how they think. People that have dug that far down into the religious snake pit will never believe they are at fault. They are just doing their God's will and no one else could possibly understand, because they aren't godly enough. Even Hildebrandt was saying that her going to prison was God's will for her, because she could witness to so many more lost souls there. It's maddening and sickening.
You see that in cults and religious zealots. They live and believe such extremes, fully convinced they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. Having someone outside the cult criticize is just a sign of how right they are. They wouldn't be experiencing "persecution" if their beliefs were not the REAL way God wants everyone to be. So, yes, they feel superior to all us lowly, unelightened, unwashed masses. Demented delusion.
Imagine going to her for therapy and she's like "Shaving your daughter's hair if she disobeys you is a really good idea!" "Have you tried handcuffing your son to a wall in the panic room?"
I know you are joking but this is literally what this inhuman monster would do. There are so many stories from kids (now adults) who suffered horrible abuse from their parents when Jodi Hildebrandt became the family's therapist. The worst I've heard (apart from this case) is a parent (I'm not sure if it is the mother or father) who admitted locking up their son in a small crawlspace and starving him via Jodi's instructions, for weeks on end. It only ended because the OP's conscience couldn't take it anymore and they spared their son from Jodi's advised torture. She's been doing this for a long time.
I PRAY that they don’t give the kids back to Kevin… even if he’s regretting deeply that he let her abuse the kids (if we play with the thought that he never participated in the cruel punishments/abuse) and that he later just left them there with an abusive mother that got even more abusive in Jodi’s presence without even trying to get them away from this abusive, delusional duo - he’s clearly not strong enough to be a supporting and protecting father. If they give the kids back to them they let those kids down AGAIN.
It’s most likely that if anyone gets custody it’ll be the eldest daughter but I personally think the youngest two will stay with their un-named foster for the time being.
Also he tried to get his eldest daughter arrested so that she’d have something on her record which would prevent her from having custody of the kids. Obviously that didn’t work because he’s an idiot. But the reason he doesn’t want the eldest daughter to have custody is because then Ruby can’t be in control of them, but with him she’d be able to control them all through him. Because let’s be honest he’s just divorcing her for show so that he can try and get custody. So Ruby would essentially still be in control even locked away in jail because she still completely controls him.
One of the scariest parts of this is she had a following… a large one. Meaning there were people who agreed with her tactics and probably took her advice. They should check out anyone involved in that account in general. Very worrying.
I think most of the following is kids ngl(and ofc terrible peiple). Since my little sister(she is in elematry school)has always been a big fqn of theses types of videos. Even most of the time it felt like kids are commenting on it too.
Seeing the people who helped these children was a small blessing amidst a lot of darkness - the medic was so gentle with the little girl, the officers were so disinterested in Jodie's shit, and the gentleman who called the police in the first place was empathetic and handled it really well.
There are exceptions to the warrant requirement. This one falls under "exigent circumstances" for 2 reasons. The first is the immediate saftey of the people inside, the second is the preservation of evidence that is "reasonably likely" to be destroyed if the scene is not frozen. Once in the house, they can only look in places where people may be hiding in order to assure the scene is safe. After they do a "saftey sweep", evidence is no longer in danger of being destroyed, so a warrant is required to search everywhere (drawers, boxes, cabinets, ect) in the house.
The little boy and girls bodies are so emaciated, you can see how skinny both their arms and legs are. It breaks my heart to see it an know what those innocent children went through. Those evil women should be in prison for life not just 30 years.
Ruby behaving that way during her arrest and interrogation just shows how truly narcissistic and sociopathic she is. She felt NOTHING and likely still doesnt. All she seems to feel is paranoia, which she projects onto her kids. I really hope she gets a taste of her own medicine somehow.
Idc about this woman but you shouldn't use people being arrested as a metric of their character cos they're under psychological pressure and do not act rationally at all during that period
@@rusi6219I know you are NOT trying to validate her expressions after she got caught ABUSING, her children. Doesn’t matter if you “don’t care for her”, anyone is allowed to judge someone’s character when getting arrested, IT SHOWS HOW THEY FEEL INSIDE. She clearly couldn’t have cared less.
@@rusi6219 How is what I said emotional? It’s purely fact. Not only do everyday people judge your reactions when getting arrested, but even the police and judicial system do, which is exactly why there’s extensive video of her behavior, while getting arrested, released. Your response genuinely makes no sense, but okay :), people, including myself are allowed to be a tad emotional when watching someone who actively abused children, act like they do not care.
@@ileana915 "how am I emotional, bla bla bla, Okay i am emotional, but I can be, so f*** u!!!!* Anyway, imagine somebody falsely reports you to CPS and video of you raided is released for thousands of strangers to call you a psychopath based on the fact you're obviously in shock and do not - cannot - behave rationally. You're probably low iq though, so I won't bother to try to explain it to you further. You'll probably think I'm defending this woman or something, you people love to latch onto the easiest thoughts instead of contemplating.
Her siblings are on youtube. Her parents are on a two year mission trip. The horror those kids went through and the family didn’t know cause she cut contact off with them.
At 5:20, police are allowed to enter a building/residence without a search warrant if it is assumed as an emergency. Since one of the kids escaped the home and reported that his siblings were in danger and still in the home, they have probable cause to enter the residence.
@deereye87 I know, he and Buff even laugh (mostly) during “To Catch a Predator” but this is just a bridge too far. Isn’t Utah where that dude had some torture chamber set up in a trailer by a lake? He enlisted his g/f’s help getting young woman to go back there only to torture and kill them then throw their bodies in the reservoir? I don’t remember if the guys covered it on their channel but it was also a multi-episode series.
Seeing Ruby's hair styled every time she appeared in court knowing she had cut her baby girls hair in punishment made me so madd! Almost makes me hope the inmates takes some rough justice and make both Ruby and Jodi experience some of what they put those babies through!
Violence of any kind against children is looked down upon very harshly in prison environments, and if the inmates at her future prison have any kind of access to news or social media articles, they will be expecting her on the day she arrives, and they will be ready.
The cops are allowed to breach the home. Since there is possibility for bodily harm being committed at that very moment. The victims must be saved. So no warrant needed. Probably cause was already established when brother said two more kids in the home.
It always breaks my heart when an innocent by a standard or neighbor cares more about somebody's kids than they do. That man struggled to get through the phone call without crying.
All 4 children are currently with their father, which is appalling to me, but we don't have great child protection services, and Utah has weird laws. Apparently, we don't have capsicum receptors in our extremities, so the cayenne pepper mixed with honey wouldn't have been more torturous than what was already being done to these kids. That doesn't excuse it. What Ruby and Jodi did to those children was straight up emotional, psychological, and physical torture. The emotional and psychological torture they endured will take far longer to heal than the physical scars. No one wins here. This is truly a tragic case.
First of all, even if we don't have capsicum receptors in extremities, I'm sure it would still hurt in open sores, I'm sure it hurt them :( and also, even if we don't, ruby clearly THOUGHT she was causing extra torture by adding the cayenne mixture, the intent should count for something:/
@@anggela Honey is supposed to be anti-bacterial and anti-fungal. Well, as a crunchy mom I tried it once on a small wound and it ate away at my skin! I think that might be why the wounds were so deep on them. I still have a scar on that wound where i put the honey when I don't think I would have otherwise
Actually it’s at least 3 women! Ruby, Jody, and Pam (pan knew that the kids weren’t ok and also ran their Connections company with them and would use the older kids for free labor and house cleanings but they were not able to pin any charges on her)
What gets me is the shaving of the daughters hair and making her jump into a cactus. And the fact that mom documented the abuse like it was her pride and joy
@@asafoster7954 we cannot help every person in the world, so sometimes all we can do is pray. It’s better than total apathy. Dedicate yourself to the things you _can_ do close at hand, because every little act of kindness, charity, or helpfulness each day counts. I’m also praying for them Kimberly
A child that is underweight, dehydrated, bound, and injured is definitely enough probable cause, and you know there are other kids still in the house, they don’t need a search warrant to check on the other children.
His flesh rotted and was in necroses and that won’t ever regenerate, he will have chunks of flesh and scars that will show. I’m surprised he didn’t lose his feet and go septic. If more time had gone by they would both be dead. Jodi was buying a remote ranch where he couldn’t run away. And no neighbors. The police said the fresh rotting and infection was so strong that even outside they could smell it. Ruby turned over her channel and her money to her. Her yt manager told her it sounded like she was being scammed and she fired them, Kevin was a passive husband because that’s what Jodi does is isolate and get rid of the husbands.
During her phone call with her husband, she spoke about how she knew this would happen but in the words of, "this is the devil getting me". She believes she got caught because the devil is trying to get her and so because of that, she is blaming her children, calling them evil. Can only imagine the crazy asf shit she'll say to her inmates. Edit - I hope the dad does not get the kids. He wasn't exactly the best to them either.
Not only was he complicit, he was also one of their abusers when they still had the UA-cam channel. The fact that he has skated by and thinks he should have custody is astounding.
You know through everything heinous in the world. It is truly disgusting anyone would put children through anything. Everyone was once a child, defenseless and innocent. Its pitiful people rob them of that earlier than needed.
I think this was a comment SWOOP made early in her docu-series (someone confirm pls) but a concept I wanted to bring up was the 'Banality' of Evil. Evil so complacent in someones life that it's just second nature to them. The case this was first brought up in court against was after WW2, where the Executioner at (Place that began with A) described his job like a boring 9-5, completely glazing over any semblance of emotion that what he did was murder hundreds of thousands of Jewish people. That's similar to what Ruby Franke and Jodie are doing. Simply glossing over their evil acts like it's a boring job to them. And it was. The fact they have 0 remorse or any concern for the kids says more than they ever could.
The not talking without a lawyer present is actually what you're supposed to do to not dig yourself into a deeper hole. You're NEVER supposed to answer their questions without your attorney present especially if you're 100% guilty. 😂
In the call to her husband she says something like 'these people dont understand that children can be evil.' As a parent, that's one of the details that stuck with me most. These women are beyond twisted and buff was right there is no hell hot enough. 😢 Those poor children.
I know that the eldest sister who is over 18 is trying to fight custody for her younger siblings. She is fighting against their dad.
I fought for custody of my little brother and won. I wish them the best. It can be done.
The fact that she has to fight against their dad who was complicit in all of this abuse
I wish her the best, and that she gets full custody. Kevin is just as bad. In no way, shape or form is he a "father."
Yeah and whats horrible is her younger siblings dont even want to stay with her. Not because shes bad - shes probably the best thing thats ever been in their lives - but they have all been brainwashed by Jodi and Ruby to think that she is evil and satan reincarnate.
@@bonnie_rabbit749 it just sucks that we have to wait 5 to 10 years for everyone to speak up. This platform would probably not exist by then
It took them 4 hours to convince that little girl to go with first responders, which speaks volumes of what she and her siblings went through
That's how much fear those psychotic fucks inflicted onto CHILDREN. Innocent little beings that haven't done anything wrong, and yet somehow in their fucked up heads they decided that kids deserved to be abused for whatever bullshit beliefs they held for religion.
FOUR HOURS? Talking her out of the closet?!Are you sure?
@icu3869 Yes, because she was traumatized. They let her leave at her own pace.
@@icu3869yes there’s recorded counts of that girl saying she believes she’s the devil and might hurt someone.
@@caincosplays wow. And I bed she doesn't belive it. I bet she was conditioned to by Jodie and ruby.
Anyone else tear up when they heard the elderly man choke up while discribing the child? 😢
Yes you could hear the emotion in his voice and how disturbed he was
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I choked up just seeing how skinny the poor kids legs are. This whole situation is heartbreaking 💔
The photos are awful. These kids would’ve died there
I'm surprised he was able to keep it together as much as he did! Realizing that the kids next door are being hurt and you didn't know so you couldn't do anything is just awful. He showed more concern than any of the "parents" in this situation!!
They can’t let the dad have the kids back. There is no way he was unaware of this.
It makes me so mad, like where did he think his kids were for a year? They’re still his children, him and ruby being separated is no excuse. I would be asking left and right how my babies were doing.
I don't believe he didn't visit or see his children at all during that one year. He must've seen something was wrong, ignored and obviously couldn't care less.
he might not be 'directly' involved, but he's complicit to a degree.
Right!? There’s no way those kids got to the state they were in in just the year he conveniently left to handle his drug addiction. He knew exactly what was going on but the whole charade is what kept getting them money
I don't think the authorities disagree with you, but they have to put a case together and prove it. while it is unlikely he didn't know: 1) they still have to gather evidence of his knowledge of the abuse and 2) they wish to convict the custodial parent. both are easier it they don't seem to be going after the dad.
I am pretty sure that the dad has not escaped the authorities notice. they just want their eventual case to stick and they don't want people (jury) to go easy on the mom because the kids will have no parents left, so they convict mom and then they get dad. he's not going anywhere and the kids are being cared for.
that is my take.
@@theoverunderthinkerthis! It sucks so bad. You can tell he knows but you’re so right. They have to have enough evidence.
Does anyone know if there’s family they have that maybe they’ll go to? I hate the idea of all these kids bouncing from foster to foster. I know there’s some amazing fosters out there but I feel like it’s very common to hear about foster abuse too/: do they have cousins that aren’t like this? Grandparents?
Poor girl. It may sound trivial, but having your head shaved unwillingly is humiliating and demoralizing for a young girl. They took away part of her identity.
yep, they knew very well what they were doing to her psyche
It’s not at all trivial. Hair is such an important part of women’s lives in so many different cultures for a reason.
Would have been dehumanizing and humiliating to a male as well. There is an absence of consent issue.
@JMOlsen_ That happened to a good couple of my male freinds growing up. Once as punishment for having long hair as a 5th grader (as if it was his responsibility to get it cut). Even the teachers would tease them. One friend broke down crying over it and the teacher was so gd belittling and evil about it, I started destroying his dumb teaching aids when he wasn't looking.
It's even demoralizing and humiliating for a young boy. I can't even imagine what a girl must feel like.
cayenne pepper in CHILDREN’S WOUNDS?! and then plastic wrapping the cayenne pepper IN their wounds?? under the jail.
I’ve heard that honey is a natural antiseptic so I get its use as an emergency treatment IF nothing else is available UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, and while proper medical treatment can be sought out and provided, but in this case… just no.
@@AmethystNotTakenit’s like they were trying to simultaneously irritate the wounds and keep them from becoming septic I guess. But obviously they’re just evil since they caused the wounds in the first place.
The plastic kept moisture and bacteria in the wound. It started to rot.
It's cayenne and honey mixture, some kind of holistic remedy, which might've worked to some degree (pain and burning aside) but they wrapped it up in saran wrap instead of bandages.......... pure evil
Whilst my parents wouldnt put substances on my wounds, they wouldn’t treat them, so I would experiment with different substances to stave off infection/pain.
The old man’s voice breaking on the 911 call. Crazy that a complete stranger has more compassion than their own mother.
And he tried to put it in a more delicate way saying "He was detained" because he knew R****l was listening and didn't want him to get upset if he said "Tortured" or something else
@@SjofnBM1989 exactly. Protecting him even in words.
The female emt always gets me too, she walks away after looking at the boy and shes holding back tears coz of how bad his condition is😥
I teared up when I heard the old man’s voice. His voice breaking over what he saw did me in. I hope their fellow inmates will treat them properly.
It made me cry! This is so sad, poor kids 😔
She really thought they would just walk away because she had her attorney on the phone…
That genuinely made me laugh.
"That's great. Get out of the house!!"
Cops were like "Idgaf about your attorney" then dragged her out.
If you pause it, she starts tearing up. Tears for her self. She knows it all over at that moment.
Police really couldn't be rough enough with this one
Kevin Franke needs to be arrested and charged on child abuse and Neglect as well.
He knew damn well ruby was starving the toddler at 4 years old and posting videos about it online and he allowed it.
And while knowing what rubys capable of, abandoned his children with ruby for a year and was more worried about getting his daughter arrested over a laptop than the condition and state of his children....
Yes I still remember videos from years ago when he was in the home. What are his excuses for taking his oldest son's mattress and sending to an outdoor survival camp all summer, all for playing a harmless prank.
Kevin didnt commit a criminal offense to the knowledge of anyone. Ruby wasn't starving E in that video she was being a harsh and cruel parent. Also, how would he know what she's capable of if she was never this extremist until meeting jodi ( this info is in a yt video the oldest daughter made saying she knew her parents were strict but it just got worse when they met jodi) . He does not deserve his kids back for sure and hopefully no visitation bc one thing he did do is allow this to happen
@jadynariana he should be investigated and that laptop and journal of his seized. Youre assuming he only knwew what we knew as far as the "harsh" punishments, but that camera wasnt on 24/7
If he was protective of those kids those comments about "getting rid of all my pets" and shit like that would have set him off. I dont believe for 1 second he hasnt done or witnessed anything all this time
@@karnagekarnival5127 and i dont disagree that he needs to be investigated and that when the cameras weren't on we have no idea what was going on but imo theres so much actual information on them when they were a vlogging channel that outside of being extremely religious and borderline extremists nothing was inherently illegal. even the oldest daughter has elaborated on this.
i just think and its only my opinion that he is not innocent but he is also not criminally responsible (as of now) so bringing up actions that you would call signs imo is kinda revisionists history and just assuming based on your own beliefs is not how the law approaches being guilty.
@@jadynariana I think absolutely on the neglect front, I hate kids personally but I still cannot fathom being a parent and not having an issue with seeing your kid, or when the police are telling you in the interrogation room that your kids were abused to the point where the duct tape used to restrain them melted into their flesh and the wounds were so severe that it made first responders (who are usually first on scene to horrific accidents) are put to tears by the brief sight and that they're lucky to be alive, and the first thing you ask the police about after hearing that is not "are my kids okay" but "did you guys recover the money in the bag?".
Tells you exactly where his priorities are.
Not to mention the jail calls where he's scheming with Ruby as to how to get the kids back into their custody despite him knowing she was abusing them like that. Disgusting. All 3 of them needs to be kept far away from every single one of those kids. The only reason he's divorcing Ruby and not contacting her right now is literally because they schemed this with attorneys and through jail cell calls to try to make sure Kevin has the best chance at getting the kids, they said that much on a recorded jail cell call.
The amount of courage the little boy must have had to escape, knowing what the consequences would be if caught as he was caught multiples times beforehand. It is heart and gut-wrenching
He's a genuine little hero, I'm so proud of him for saving him and his sisters.
He probably knew that if he didn't try n escape at that point, he won't have any other chance.
It was his second time escaping but tye first time his mom found him walking
God Bless that little boy 🙏🫶👼
I listened to all the journal entries and body cam footage. Ruby would tell R that he was bad and was going to end up in jail. When he went to the neighbors house, he was actually asking for the cops to take HIM to jail. Which makes it even sadder
That’s terrible..
She described Eve, her 9 yr old as putting on a show and trying to manipulate her, because she was banging her head on the ceramic tile floor.....
Her entire Life centered on torturing those sweet kids. They were even planning on moving to a remote area in Arizona so she could force them to work in the desert away from witnesses.
Is this your assumption (after going through everything) or did he actually mention this? Just curious.
i pieced that together too, thats why he asked for the police station for 'personal business' not help or a hospital 😭
@@valeriebumblebee7607He said it was a personal matter. And told the old man it was his fault. Ruby told him it's either me, or you go to jail. He thought jail was a better option.
The dad needs charges too. We remember the youtube uploads
He truly did not give a shit about those kids. He left them for a YEAR without checking on any of them.
He participated in the psychological abuse and openly supported Ruby starving them, all captured forever on UA-cam videos and reuploads. If he had any decency he would leave them alone and let sane people try to help them heal.
In an interview with the police station and officers, they said that because young children’s lives were involved they had probable cause to search Jodi’s house immediately without a warrant
Exigent circumstances. God only knows what she might have done to those children while officers were securing a warrant.
Exactly. If RF was in good health, then it might be a different story. He was in a devastating state which caused police inspection of the house to be legit and reasonable.
Gotta love those warrant exemptions
Imminent danger? They knew children were involved and needed medical help. Surely the rights of the children outweigh any that the "mother" may have ? The awful things that police see must be appalling and disturbing . They are to be commended .
@@feraltaco4783 That psychopath was doing those things to children because of a god and religion she believed in. "God" has no part in any of this bub
5:25 if “the smell of marijuana” is enough to warrant probable cause in a traffic stop, an emaciated child with restraints would have to warrant at least a similar response… no warrant needed
In most states it’s not anymore
Exigent circumstances.
Yeah it’s called exigent circumstances, that’s why they were able to go and search her house for the children
What is really heartbreaking is for years this has been going on, people called cps and neighbor reported the children being outside and unsupervised at times. The eldest was trying to get her mother reported, and is working for custody of her younger siblings. And now the whole case is reviewing and going "Welp, we should give the husband custody. We are adult people who are smart and we have studied this case from day uno."
None of this is a surprise to TOO MANY PEOPLE. The internet does not forget these vile creatures attempted infanticide on their own children. Utah really is proving to be pathetic in regards to child protections.
What baffles me is that people think UTAH of all places will do anything. Utah is literally a statewide cult for fuck's sake!
When that little girl walked out of that room, I was absolutely devastated by how skinny she was, and how dejected her walk was. This is pure evil. Absolutely evil. There are no words to describe this kind of cruely.
I saw the uncensored footage and it’s so much worse when you see just how bad their wrists were cut up and how skinny they were. The emt’s and police on site mentioned how you could smell flesh because under the wraps on their wrists the skin was beginning to deteriorate. And the skin on their arms and legs was thick especially around their ankles and wrists because of just how much scarring from the frequent abuse and torture. Like they weren’t just starved they were emaciated because they hadn’t had access to water in who knows how long. Their clothes just hang on their little bodies they’re so big on them.
Can you imagine that when the girl saw the cops she might had though it was another punishment and was really scared
Really.... all of this is beyond my Imagination...
Poor E's arms look like sticks.. 😢😢
@@shewolfinubakaso… years of abuse and torture and pain 😭
Even prisoners get a bed and a meal, and she would deny this to her own kids. Appalling 😔
What’s worse is that the pantry upstairs was completely stocked and very Instagram mom aesthetic. Like TONS of food all organized and put in cute little display jars with neat labels and yet there were two children starved almost to death locked in the basement
Some are saying that’s probably why the boy was asking to go to the police. Not to get help necessarily but because he thought going to jail he’d at least get some food and water. Apparently jail was a threat Ruby and Jodi would use against the kids.
@@alexmiguel351it was. In the diary entries, she said he had to deal with her or jail. He said "jail where I belong." So the diary entries back this up.
This family is f up
Right 😢 she'd even accuse the kids of 'stealing water'
I came across a clip recently where one of them, sitting in jail, claimed, “They must not want people to discipline their kids anymore!” (Jaw drops) No, people aren’t against you because they’re against children being disciplined. People aren’t against you because they’re against raising children. They don’t have an issue with those things. They’re against you because of the absolutely vile and unholy terror you unleashed upon innocent children. Your treatment of those innocent children was so terroristic, cruel, and heartless that labeling it “sadistic” feels like it would be an insult to sadism. What is wrong with some people that they think “not being soft on children” means “I must brutalize children and demean them in every conceivable way”? It’s like they can only see the extremest of extremes.
The fact that she took her little girl’s hair away says so much. A lot of people think, “oh it’s just hair,” but for a girl, especially a young girl, there is so much psychological damage done when her hair is taken and she is unprepared or unwilling. The act of shaving a young girl’s hair like that says “I own you. I am in control, I can take your beauty and confidence away.” Franke wanted power and to completely crush her children’s spirits. It was so heartbreaking to see that poor little girl curled up and starving in the dark like that. She’d been completely broken down, body, mind, and soul. I hope all the inmates in Franke’s prison see this on the TV or hear about this and decide what they want to do about it.
That's why the Nazis shaved everyone's heads in the prison camps, too.
Heck, the military used to do the same thing to new recruits. I have no idea if they still do.
Sadly idk what kind of prison she’s gonna go to, but that attitude of prisoners “serving justice” is mostly in men’s prisons. Maybe she won’t be separated in a woman’s ward
@@mamaluigi0993 there’s gen pop justice in women’s prison too. That’s why Yolanda Saldivar is in solitary for her own safety. On top of that, many inmates were hurt as kids too and they’ll want justice for Franke’s kids.
@mamaluigi0993 . In women's prisons a lot of those inmates are separated from their own children. So not only are they upset because a lot of them were abused as children, in addition they see a child abuser and think "I would do anything to be with my kids, and here you are abusing yours."
Doesn't matter if it's men's prisons or women's prisons, if you're there because you did something to a kid, especially your own, you are a target.
I saw the uncensored photos of the children's injuries and they are horrifying! The daughter has scars all up and down her body from being thrown into cactuses and the son had giant open wounds on his wrists and ankles from being hog tied basically. Absolutely disgusting that anyone would do this to any child! I think Utah needs to change their "30 years max" rule
Yea and under the wraps of duck tape and plastic their skin had begun to break down which was the source or the flesh smell the first responders kept commenting on.
The fact that they would rub pepper into those wounds and needed medical equipment (maybe to not take them to the hospital when they needed it) is really chilling 😢
Torturing children should get you life in prison, I wouldn't even be against the unalive penalty for this case.
Utah is run by Mormons. It’s doubtful.
I think Utah still has a firing squad punishment
Anybody else here not trust the Dad in the SLIGHTEST from the start?
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There’s no way in the hottest hell is he innocent in all this. Ruby was evil to her kids way before she got involved with the other women , so there’s no way he wasn’t involved somehow. Those poor kids, hope they can heal and grow up without trauma. Just hope the dad doesn’t get full custody.
He was in the videos with some abuse on full display. He may not have known fully what went on when they split, but there is no way he didn't know some level of abuse was going on. I really hope they keep those kids away from him.
Dad has absolutely no interest in his kids, he only wants custody now in hopes that it doesn’t look like purposely abandoned his kids. Even during the 8 passenger day, he seemed so distant when around his family.
These adults are all evil !!!!
One of the saddest parts to me, is that kid wasn't even looking for escape. He wanted to go to jail because they made him believe he was a vile thing that needed to be locked away.
Or worse, he thought jail would give him a place to sleep and food at least…
@@Fabricofrealityy and water... reading the journal is actually sickening.
He was definitely seeking to escape, he wasn't trying to turn himself in. He told officers two of his siblings were trapped inside the house.
@@caitolent That was because the 911 operator told the neighbor to ask about other children possibly in the house. The boy who escaped only asked for police to be called, that's all. In fact when the neighbor asked why he needed police, he wouldn't say.
He never actually even asked for food and water, the kind people just gave it to him (although it seemed like he was about to ask for it and decided not to 😢).
Bcause of how it was reported, I thought for a long time that no matter what those monsters did, they never succeeded in breaking his mind. But it seems that this was wrong.
He's still a hero because of what his escape helped uncover but it is very clear that they truly twisted the way he thought about himself. Which is just one more layer of horrible.
@@brandonwilliams4050Im just hoping those kids can break their conditioning with time and be able to cope with what they went through and what they were made to believe. These types of situations are especially scary because a lot of the time that conditioning doesnt get broken and they spend their whole lives blaming themselves.
Cayenne pepper in open wounds and shaving their head as punishment? Seeing that little girl in the closet shook me to my core. I hope these babies find peace somehow.
Just wanted to add; I saw a clip of an interview that they did with the ambulance staff that showed up and cared for the boy where they state that as they were cleaning his wounds and getting him taken cared of, he just sat there and didn't react to what must have been incredibly painful. She said any normal person would've at least flinched at being touched, but he just sat there emotionless. It told her that he must have suffered so much pain at the hands of Ruby and Jodi that he'd just gone numb to it. That alone is absolutely horrific to think about.
The ring camera footage is breaking my heart man, that kid sounds so exhausted. That woman is no longer human, how can you do that to someone, your own KIDS. Hell is hot
The little girl in the closet just hurt to see. She’s basically catatonic.
if i remember correctly, the kid went to several homes before this one. people werent home. some had cameras and you can see him, how defeated he is that people werent home. it is heart wrenching.
And he was walking all that way with such dreadful injuries to his limbs. :( Poor poor baby.
That guy seemed so nice too, "what's going on son, have a seat there" he finally found the right house.
Ruby Franke's relatives said that she was abused and food was used as a punishment when growing up. That's why it seemed normal to her, and she thinks people are overreacting... Not to excuse her. Many people are abused and never harm anyone.
I watched a video where they read the entire journal and it is TERRIBLE. She was going to kill those kids, no doubt. She would set them up to fail and abuse them when they did. She HATED those kids. And dad was nowhere to be seen.
link or summary?
fr she looked beyond angry when she arrived at Jodys.She's furious cos the partys over for her.
@@Zeeboklown There are several on UA-cam. I don't remember the creator of the one I watched but you can just search for complete journal. I'll warn you though. It's much worse than anything shown with Ken and Dane.
Disgusting human being. Even if dad was absent during that time period and is telling the truth, why would CPS give custody to a man who basically ditched his children and whose children didn’t think it was ok to even try and make contact? An absent parent who is just suddenly gonna show up won’t fly with CPS
@@ZeeboklownUA-cam hides comments with links, they won’t show. Just search “new evidence released Ruby Franke” and find those with current dates.
What bothers me with the "father":
- Was there from the start of the channel and had no issues with he punishments (including the 6 months without a room)
- Complies directly to move away from his wife
- Moves away from his wife, but don't try to see his children for more then a year
- Is called by Jodi to come get the kids (but has no contact with her)
- Tried so bad to get his laptop back
- Tried to get his daughter arrested and put in jail
- Talks about him and his wife during the interrogation, but almost nothing about the kids.
- I more interested in the definition of some words when the inspectors described what was done to his kids, then the actual state his kids are in now
- and much more ..
And now he plays the saint and want to take care of his kids?
Sure
He felt uncomfortable about Jodi but never once checked to see how his kids were since he knew Ruby was associated with her.
@deereye87 Yes that could be the case. They are also very religious. That could play in all this. I find it very strange that the possible involvement of the Mormon church is not discussed or investigated. Jodi was appointed by the church.
@deereye87Dude, Mormonism is already a cult. Some of things they are believe are insane just like scientologists. Here is an example, women that go to heaven are destined to continuously birth children for eternity according to their more hidden beliefs.
This is a good summary of some of the sh1t that makes that man entirely sus. He comes off as only caring about the wife and caring little for the wrongs done to his children. He was complicit in way too much prior to Jodi coming on scene, and frankly he's lacking in care for the kids current status. If he wins custody, I can guarantee it's just going to be some variant of what Roob Feckless did to the kids herself. He's not interested in his kids, he wants his wife's admiration. That's why he moved out the way he did and obeyed every order/edict she gave without a fight or question. It's why he didnt see the kids at her request without a moue of concern - because he cares more about pleasing Roob than he cares for the kids.
Disgusting people, hope the daughter that's suing for custody gets the kids. More of a chance the remaining minors will have some form of decent life...
@@bakaichigoeverything you said 100%!!!
I’ve taken law classes and I was a mandatory reporter for a long time. One, cops only need probable cause to search. They had a kid with physical wounds who gave a witness testimony, that was more than enough. Two, when it comes to child abuse, the law is very lenient to those who report because they never want anyone to be dissuaded from reporting if they suspect something. Even if it’s wrong, and CPS and police time is wasted, they’d rather waste it and be wrong than not waste it and be right.
Years ago we had a petition to get them off UA-cam- the dad was right there in it all- how he is not in jail is a crime in itself. Neighbors reported them to police for years as well
That diary entries sound like something written by hannibal lecter, it's like they've been conducting psychological experiments on those poor kids
This is nothing like Hannibal Lecture!! The only similarities are they were both disgusting ppl!!
"If he wants to emulate the savior he needs to be 100% obedient with exactness. No wavering. No (not sure what this says)."
These people have lost their damn minds.
@@headkicked and "no hiding" is the last part
Any male who walks away from 6 children he fathered and has no contact with them for over 12 months, has no right to either call himself a man nor a dad. Surely there's something he can be charged with, he knew Jodi was a sadistic nut job, in fact everyone knew and no one did anything.
We still have no idea on the dads side. He could of been trying to get them the entire time and she kept trying to get him away. This happened to Gypsy case.
He didn’t even talk to the older kids too like two of them were out of the house. The daughter was away at college and the son was actually asked to go with him when he left and he kept him for a few weeks then he got tired of the whole “raising a teenage boy” thing so he kicked him out and that child was homeless/ couch surfing for a bit until one of his friends families took him in and he was with them until he graduated high school at least. But yea nothing says father of the year like estranging your eldest daughter for not wanting to be a cash cow and go to college, and throwing out your teenage son onto the street.
@CrazyCatMom24 there's video of him speaking to the police. He didn't try anything. In fact he met up with Ruby not too long ago for a chat.
@@CrazyCatMom24considering he was there for things like taking away beds as punishment and making the little kids miss Christmas as punishment, I kind of doubt he was actually all that worried about it. Also, it seems like he still had rights to the kids up until Ruby was arrested essentially. It should not have been nearly that difficult for him to figure out what was happening. He either knew, or didn’t care enough to know. He also admits to having willingly left knowing that she was super unstable. He left the kids with someone he knew was extremely unstable.
@@CrazyCatMom24we actually dooo know the dads side, it’s not like their lives were secret. He is not innocent and I hope they keep the children safely away from him.
As bad as you say it was it was worse. The little boys skin was coming of under the tape. They thought it was tape or plastic wrap but it was his skin. That little 9 year old girl sat in that room for 4 hours before they were able to talk her out. Thank god they allowed the time and did not force her out. Ruby’s diaries are filled with the abuse she did on these two children. She would make them stand in the sun for hours and every time they tried to get in the shade she pushed them back into the sun. She would poke them with cactus to force him in the sun because he is a demon. She would put her hands on his mouth and nose and puts him under the water in the pool. Ruby deserves to serve every bit of that 30 years and I hope she does.
She deserves to never see sunlight again, never mind 30 years.
I can’t even imagine… forced out into the blazing sun and heat. I sunburn easily and it is painful enough. But to then have cactus needles to poke, prod and hit too?!?! Sadistic! Those poor kids… Forced endurance torture too, like something from a black ops interrogation sight. Vile and inhumane
Yes, they even said her son was caught 'stealing water'! That one got to me.... Amongst all the other horrific things done to these poor kids.
I remember hearing the 911 call from the neighbor. I had even made a comment saying the neighbor loves those kids more than their own parents. Poor guy was almost in tears when he described the boy's condition to dispatch.
I REALLY hope those kids don't go to their father. He's going to be just as abusive and manipulative, probably blaming them for his wife being jailed. Disgusting.
The fact that the boy told the neighbors it was personal business breaks my heart. It just makes me feel like he didn't want to tell on his parents for doing what they were, but still needed so much help :(
She was cruel to her children long before Jody entered the picture.
She had vlogs showing she was letting them eat
@@jaselleromerostop trying to defend this nutjob
It makes me sick so glad she is in jail hope she never gets let out.
Yeah.. really hope both of them gets the Max (60years). That would most likely mean they’ll never see the stars again
Pray for PRISON JUSTICE....No more needs to be said......
Wait just heard she could get Max 30?!?? Why?? They said 4 times max 15 years right?
@@zannadunstrand6289It’s a law in Utah. People charged with 2nd and/or 3rd degree felonies can only serve a maximum of 30 years on consecutive sentences.
If the charge was 1st degree it would be 5 years to life imprisonment.
A capital charge would be life without parole or a death sentence.
A stupid law imo 😡
Probably ment to keep Mormons out of jail for child touching @@Areniapixie
What ticks me off about this case( besides the vile abuse) is that there is a lack of personal responsibility for this. Even her diary is like that, everything is the children’s fault. The father??? Did this just start? No it’s been going on for awhile and he was complacent in it…
She literally catalogued her abuse and acts of psychopathy against children. She took time, out of seemingly most days, to write down just how fucked up she was, and never once realized "huh, this is fucked". Fully writing down her own incriminating evidence, and not a single inkling of wrong in her fucked up mind.
I can never understand how this kind of people could exist...
@@L16htW4rr10r They do. My parents were two of them. I hope you never meet any.
@@L16htW4rr10rthey abused their children for years before Hildebrandt. Blaming her for everything is such a cop out.
Narcissism.
11:05 "If he wants to emulate the savior, he needs to be 100% obedient"
THAT lady was flatout insane wtf is that
That is religion at work.
Rubys journals are so hard to listen too. She’s so abusive and has a warped sense of reality. She calls her kids demons and calls her abuse love. I could barely listen to the whole thing.
Christian morals at peak performance
How she wasnt charged with attempted murder is beyond me especially with all the things she wrote in her diary. Sickening!
Probably why she took a plea deal....
The neighbor was tearing up just by describing the situation, thanks god the kid reached out a legit good person
Ears Off Ken gives the same vibes as Black Shirt Charlie
HELPPPP
Exactly the vibe I got😢 we're in for a rough story
Ken taking the ears off is like Sylvester Stallone turning his hat around in Over The Top. Once that flip is switched... he means business!
Real
You know it's bad when the ears come off (and when Charlie wears black).
Ruby was doing this before she met Jodi. Jodi certainly exacerbated Ruby's very strict/brutal parenting style. Just watch some old clips of 8 passengers, it was her abuse that got her channel cancelled.
I really don't recommend anyone look at the uncensored photos of the kids' wounds, but I'm dead serious when I say they looked like they were in a concentration camp or war zone. Their ankle and wrist wounds were down through the muscle. I genuinely believe they would have gone septic within days, if they hadn't died of starvation or heat exhaustion first. The first responders said they could smell their flesh immediately. Ruby and Jodi constantly called them evil and possessed, and were definitely going to k*ll them. After reading Ruby's journal, all nuance disappeared for me. She was not only complicit, but actively participating and even giddy about ab*sing her own children.
Dane - "I don't know if there is a hell hot enough" 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yesss!!!!!❤
The fatherly rage that Buff and Ken have is just so real. If only these kids dad felt the same.
That old man's voice cracking as he describes what the boy looks like made me tear up. Brb going to go hug my kids. 💔
Give em an extra 5 hugs while youre at it
I am not a religious man. But if there is a hell, she needs an express ticket. Unbelievable 😢
The abuse began far before Jodi, we can't let Rubi get away without that accountability.
They can go in the house without a warrent because it is considered a life-saving measure. Also finding the child that says there is others gives them probable cause.
Came here to comment this
As a childhood sa survivor & advocate. Lock her away and throw away the key !
Same. UNDER the jail.
Another survivor here was trafficked could not agree more with you also sending hugs I hope your doing better now
If there is a credible belief someone is in danger, search warrants are not required.
Thankfully
Her front door gives out "CULT LEADER" vibes.
8 Passengers screams _CULT!_
@@feraltaco4783 they combined the cults of 8 Passengers and Connexions
@@KATinBLACK not familiar with Connexions.
@@feraltaco4783 it’s Jodi’s “mental health counseling program” she has
Yea like House of horrors Amytiville type shit.
The pain in the neighbor's voice in the 911 call tears me apart every time and hearing how the kid spoke is just so much more awful. They're just two people trying to be brave for others. The neighbor for him, and him for his siblings. I just hope those kids are getting a lot of love and safety and know everyone is rooting for them.
"I don't know if there's a Hell hot enough..." Well said Buff, couldn't agree more.
At 5:10 you wouldn’t need a search warrant, if there’s exigent circumstances like this, they can articulate why they went in there. Or like Dan said, they could’ve got a search warrant signed by a judge extremely fast based on the circumstances.
Yeah, if they have suspicion of a dangerous situation in the home they don't need to wait for a warrant
I scrolled down to say the same. Some people will call it probable cause, but the correct term is exigent circumstances, as FilosofoCA said. If they think someone is trying to destroy evidence, are currently chasing a fleeing suspect, or feel harm may occur to the police or a third party, they don't need a warrant. It was legal for them to come in for the last in that list to protect the remaining children.
Yeah it’s usually case by case. If the justifiably have a reason to search the house (child endangerment). Then they can search for the safety of the possible victim in danger. Of one children ran away being taped down and injured. It’s not hard to assume the other kids are in danger. Either they can be abused to figure out where the other child is or worse could be killed out of anger from the parents. You can’t really just wait for things like that because it can become a life or death situation for the other children in the home.
Which yeah I feel is definitely reasonable. I don’t want to wait for the gov to give permission to safe me if I was in those kids shoes. They needed action right away. Because time is precious.
Yes they had probable cause that a crime was being commited and someone was in danger.
And her attorney would have told her that (if she actually told her lawyer the truth)
I HOPE THEY DONT SEND THE KIDS BACK TO THE HUSBAND, PLS IM BEGGING SOMEONE, ANYONE!!! DO NOT SEND THOSE KIDS TO HIM!!!
Kevin is not innocent.
I want to know his role in this. No f'ing way he didn't know anything.
@@feraltaco4783dude was ok sending his eldest son to a wilderness thing where kids are known to report abuse with one even dying and he was aware of all the punishments so the fact he acted upset is disgusting
They might. I believe Utah is one of the states that does reunification of parents and children (even after abuse) rather than letting them stay in foster care. I suppose they could say he didn’t actually do anything but I hope DCYF look into him carefully before giving them over. If they’re gonna reunify them, why not give them over to the eldest sister or other relatives?
I’m fairly certain that the eldest daughter has custody of/ is fostering the two older kids but the two younger kids they’re only telling the public that they’re with a foster and they’re doing better now but I don’t blame them for not telling the public exactly where the two youngest kids are since they’re so young and we’re the center of all of this abuse
The thing that infuriates me is how they both gave attitude like "how dare you arrest me, you have no right, I am superior."
Especially Ruby, she was looking down her nose at the officers the entire time and continued to keep some semblance of control and power by not speaking at all.
They're both sorry excuses of human beings.
I like to think the stoicism of that psycho Ruby was because she knew she was caught and had no way out of it, her only choice was to shut her mouth and reep the consequences, but your sadly probably right. Those snide fucks probably felt like they were in control and would get away with it, acting like their better than the cops trying to save children they abused
Some people are so entitled they think they can just give their side and the police (or other authorities) will go, “Oh, well, in that case, you’re free to go! So sorry to have bothered you!” It usually happens when people have their own personal echo chambers in which nothing they do is questioned.
@karaoconnoraliasraidra and unfortunately, this is the world we are increasingly finding ourselves in... people that have only experienced their own echo chamber until they go viral and get the chance to spew their completely deluded view of the world to the masses.
Well of course. God is on their side, you know. They were fighting against the devil that had possessed those horrid little child shaped demons. (SARCASM)
But seriously, that's probably similar to how they think. People that have dug that far down into the religious snake pit will never believe they are at fault. They are just doing their God's will and no one else could possibly understand, because they aren't godly enough. Even Hildebrandt was saying that her going to prison was God's will for her, because she could witness to so many more lost souls there. It's maddening and sickening.
You see that in cults and religious zealots. They live and believe such extremes, fully convinced they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. Having someone outside the cult criticize is just a sign of how right they are. They wouldn't be experiencing "persecution" if their beliefs were not the REAL way God wants everyone to be. So, yes, they feel superior to all us lowly, unelightened, unwashed masses. Demented delusion.
Imagine going to her for therapy and she's like "Shaving your daughter's hair if she disobeys you is a really good idea!" "Have you tried handcuffing your son to a wall in the panic room?"
I know you are joking but this is literally what this inhuman monster would do. There are so many stories from kids (now adults) who suffered horrible abuse from their parents when Jodi Hildebrandt became the family's therapist.
The worst I've heard (apart from this case) is a parent (I'm not sure if it is the mother or father) who admitted locking up their son in a small crawlspace and starving him via Jodi's instructions, for weeks on end. It only ended because the OP's conscience couldn't take it anymore and they spared their son from Jodi's advised torture.
She's been doing this for a long time.
It took them 4 hours to convince that little girl to come out of that closet. Those kids are beyond traumatized.
I PRAY that they don’t give the kids back to Kevin…
even if he’s regretting deeply that he let her abuse the kids (if we play with the thought that he never participated in the cruel punishments/abuse) and that he later just left them there with an abusive mother that got even more abusive in Jodi’s presence without even trying to get them away from this abusive, delusional duo - he’s clearly not strong enough to be a supporting and protecting father.
If they give the kids back to them they let those kids down AGAIN.
It’s most likely that if anyone gets custody it’ll be the eldest daughter but I personally think the youngest two will stay with their un-named foster for the time being.
Also he tried to get his eldest daughter arrested so that she’d have something on her record which would prevent her from having custody of the kids. Obviously that didn’t work because he’s an idiot. But the reason he doesn’t want the eldest daughter to have custody is because then Ruby can’t be in control of them, but with him she’d be able to control them all through him. Because let’s be honest he’s just divorcing her for show so that he can try and get custody. So Ruby would essentially still be in control even locked away in jail because she still completely controls him.
One of the scariest parts of this is she had a following… a large one. Meaning there were people who agreed with her tactics and probably took her advice. They should check out anyone involved in that account in general. Very worrying.
I think most of the following is kids ngl(and ofc terrible peiple). Since my little sister(she is in elematry school)has always been a big fqn of theses types of videos. Even most of the time it felt like kids are commenting on it too.
Seeing the people who helped these children was a small blessing amidst a lot of darkness - the medic was so gentle with the little girl, the officers were so disinterested in Jodie's shit, and the gentleman who called the police in the first place was empathetic and handled it really well.
AGREED!
i hope the dad goes to jail too. the abuse didnt start because of jodie, it got worse because of her.
There are exceptions to the warrant requirement. This one falls under "exigent circumstances" for 2 reasons. The first is the immediate saftey of the people inside, the second is the preservation of evidence that is "reasonably likely" to be destroyed if the scene is not frozen. Once in the house, they can only look in places where people may be hiding in order to assure the scene is safe. After they do a "saftey sweep", evidence is no longer in danger of being destroyed, so a warrant is required to search everywhere (drawers, boxes, cabinets, ect) in the house.
The little boy and girls bodies are so emaciated, you can see how skinny both their arms and legs are. It breaks my heart to see it an know what those innocent children went through.
Those evil women should be in prison for life not just 30 years.
The 12 year old boy looks the same size as my 8 year old, only even thinner, and it just broke my heart.
Ruby behaving that way during her arrest and interrogation just shows how truly narcissistic and sociopathic she is. She felt NOTHING and likely still doesnt. All she seems to feel is paranoia, which she projects onto her kids. I really hope she gets a taste of her own medicine somehow.
Idc about this woman but you shouldn't use people being arrested as a metric of their character cos they're under psychological pressure and do not act rationally at all during that period
@@rusi6219I know you are NOT trying to validate her expressions after she got caught ABUSING, her children. Doesn’t matter if you “don’t care for her”, anyone is allowed to judge someone’s character when getting arrested, IT SHOWS HOW THEY FEEL INSIDE. She clearly couldn’t have cared less.
@@ileana915 you're being too emotional and it doesn't serve you well.
@@rusi6219 How is what I said emotional? It’s purely fact. Not only do everyday people judge your reactions when getting arrested, but even the police and judicial system do, which is exactly why there’s extensive video of her behavior, while getting arrested, released. Your response genuinely makes no sense, but okay :), people, including myself are allowed to be a tad emotional when watching someone who actively abused children, act like they do not care.
@@ileana915 "how am I emotional, bla bla bla, Okay i am emotional, but I can be, so f*** u!!!!* Anyway, imagine somebody falsely reports you to CPS and video of you raided is released for thousands of strangers to call you a psychopath based on the fact you're obviously in shock and do not - cannot - behave rationally. You're probably low iq though, so I won't bother to try to explain it to you further. You'll probably think I'm defending this woman or something, you people love to latch onto the easiest thoughts instead of contemplating.
Oooh dang you know Ken is pissed beyond limits when he removes the cat ears. 🙀
Her siblings are on youtube. Her parents are on a two year mission trip. The horror those kids went through and the family didn’t know cause she cut contact off with them.
At 5:20, police are allowed to enter a building/residence without a search warrant if it is assumed as an emergency. Since one of the kids escaped the home and reported that his siblings were in danger and still in the home, they have probable cause to enter the residence.
Ken's head looks naked without the cat ears on.
A preview of Ken’s Only Fans!
That was a smart choice, given the seriousness of the topic. Respect to Ken.
@deereye87
I know, he and Buff even laugh (mostly) during “To Catch a Predator” but this is just a bridge too far. Isn’t Utah where that dude had some torture chamber set up in a trailer by a lake? He enlisted his g/f’s help getting young woman to go back there only to torture and kill them then throw their bodies in the reservoir? I don’t remember if the guys covered it on their channel but it was also a multi-episode series.
@@icu3869very true .
Seeing Ruby's hair styled every time she appeared in court knowing she had cut her baby girls hair in punishment made me so madd! Almost makes me hope the inmates takes some rough justice and make both Ruby and Jodi experience some of what they put those babies through!
Violence of any kind against children is looked down upon very harshly in prison environments, and if the inmates at her future prison have any kind of access to news or social media articles, they will be expecting her on the day she arrives, and they will be ready.
The cops are allowed to breach the home. Since there is possibility for bodily harm being committed at that very moment. The victims must be saved. So no warrant needed. Probably cause was already established when brother said two more kids in the home.
5:30 if police have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is actively taking place, they do not need a search warrant.
It always breaks my heart when an innocent by a standard or neighbor cares more about somebody's kids than they do.
That man struggled to get through the phone call without crying.
All 4 children are currently with their father, which is appalling to me, but we don't have great child protection services, and Utah has weird laws.
Apparently, we don't have capsicum receptors in our extremities, so the cayenne pepper mixed with honey wouldn't have been more torturous than what was already being done to these kids. That doesn't excuse it. What Ruby and Jodi did to those children was straight up emotional, psychological, and physical torture.
The emotional and psychological torture they endured will take far longer to heal than the physical scars. No one wins here. This is truly a tragic case.
Where do you have this info. Last I heard they are in foster care
I thought they where still in government care ir foster or sumn. I think shery? Is trying to get custody
The fact that the intent to hurt them more with the pepper is crazy Tho.
First of all, even if we don't have capsicum receptors in extremities, I'm sure it would still hurt in open sores, I'm sure it hurt them :( and also, even if we don't, ruby clearly THOUGHT she was causing extra torture by adding the cayenne mixture, the intent should count for something:/
@@anggela Honey is supposed to be anti-bacterial and anti-fungal. Well, as a crunchy mom I tried it once on a small wound and it ate away at my skin! I think that might be why the wounds were so deep on them. I still have a scar on that wound where i put the honey when I don't think I would have otherwise
This woman is disturbing.
Actually it’s at least 3 women! Ruby, Jody, and Pam (pan knew that the kids weren’t ok and also ran their Connections company with them and would use the older kids for free labor and house cleanings but they were not able to pin any charges on her)
That's not a woman. That's a literal demon. All of them.
She is basically a child pedo abusing her own kids. Worst of the worst basically
The cult 'religion' they follow is disturbing..
@@sicooper4230 this almost reminds me of under the banners of heaven
The thought of these women putting hot sauce on open wounds that are on CHILDREN makes me sick to my stomach.
What gets me is the shaving of the daughters hair and making her jump into a cactus. And the fact that mom documented the abuse like it was her pride and joy
The fact that this insane cult leader was their THERAPIST is just so frightening to me.
if she gets out in 4 years..... thats the strongest argument in favor of vigilante justice that i could imagine.
This whole thing just breaks my heart.. I pray the kids get the help and love they need
Prayer is a waste of time. If you want them to be well do something.
@@asafoster7954 we cannot help every person in the world, so sometimes all we can do is pray. It’s better than total apathy. Dedicate yourself to the things you _can_ do close at hand, because every little act of kindness, charity, or helpfulness each day counts.
I’m also praying for them Kimberly
A child that is underweight, dehydrated, bound, and injured is definitely enough probable cause, and you know there are other kids still in the house, they don’t need a search warrant to check on the other children.
I don't know if I could of heard all of this info from any other source and made it through it. Thank you guys. This is sickening as a father.
in her jail calls she calls her children evil, say the devils always been after her and vents crap about her kids to her ex. crazy.
Kevin didn't even ASK Ruby about the kids when he had communications with her while he was gone for over a yr.
2:23 The weay he said it's "personal business" omg, you jus tknow she's like "you don't ever tell anyone anything. you can't trust them."
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
If they have valid reasoning to believe someone in the house is in danger, pretty sure they can just go in and not wait for a warrant
His flesh rotted and was in necroses and that won’t ever regenerate, he will have chunks of flesh and scars that will show. I’m surprised he didn’t lose his feet and go septic. If more time had gone by they would both be dead. Jodi was buying a remote ranch where he couldn’t run away. And no neighbors. The police said the fresh rotting and infection was so strong that even outside they could smell it. Ruby turned over her channel and her money to her. Her yt manager told her it sounded like she was being scammed and she fired them, Kevin was a passive husband because that’s what Jodi does is isolate and get rid of the husbands.
There is no amount of jail time that would make them suffer as much as those kids did.
I've heard a quote that went like this
" Every Child deserves a mother, but not every mother deserves a child."
During her phone call with her husband, she spoke about how she knew this would happen but in the words of, "this is the devil getting me". She believes she got caught because the devil is trying to get her and so because of that, she is blaming her children, calling them evil.
Can only imagine the crazy asf shit she'll say to her inmates.
Edit - I hope the dad does not get the kids. He wasn't exactly the best to them either.
Not only was he complicit, he was also one of their abusers when they still had the UA-cam channel. The fact that he has skated by and thinks he should have custody is astounding.
You know through everything heinous in the world. It is truly disgusting anyone would put children through anything. Everyone was once a child, defenseless and innocent. Its pitiful people rob them of that earlier than needed.
I think this was a comment SWOOP made early in her docu-series (someone confirm pls) but a concept I wanted to bring up was the 'Banality' of Evil.
Evil so complacent in someones life that it's just second nature to them. The case this was first brought up in court against was after WW2, where the Executioner at (Place that began with A) described his job like a boring 9-5, completely glazing over any semblance of emotion that what he did was murder hundreds of thousands of Jewish people.
That's similar to what Ruby Franke and Jodie are doing. Simply glossing over their evil acts like it's a boring job to them. And it was. The fact they have 0 remorse or any concern for the kids says more than they ever could.
Well we KNOW this video is serious because Ken’s headphones are naked.
let’s dive.
I wouldn't call this home a mansion, I'd call it a compound.
no one mentions the kids. TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE MONSTERS.
I think if the police has reasonable suspicion that there’s someone in danger in a private residence, they don’t need a warrant
The not talking without a lawyer present is actually what you're supposed to do to not dig yourself into a deeper hole. You're NEVER supposed to answer their questions without your attorney present especially if you're 100% guilty. 😂
In the call to her husband she says something like 'these people dont understand that children can be evil.'
As a parent, that's one of the details that stuck with me most. These women are beyond twisted and buff was right there is no hell hot enough. 😢
Those poor children.