13 and 14 are not children please stop treating them like children until they are 18. Teenagers should be treated like teenagers and guided into adult hood. When you treat them like children till they are a certain age they will not be able to be adults just like now.
13 and 14 are still children, they're young and don't know half of the decisions they make, they're not adults at that age. Maybe when they're 16 or 17 or something but still those ages are too young. They're still minors. @MrWhateverfits
@@MrWhateverfits in case your not aware the only thing saying shit like this does is make it sound like you touch children. Which, to be clear is exactly what a 14 year old is. Hell in every sense except legally an 18 year old is still a kid.
As someone who was molested as a child by a man and woman. Nothing frustrates me more than the double standard. My husband was molested by a woman when he was 3. It is more rare doesn't make it ok. It's disgusting.
I was 13, had to deal with a middle aged man. Sorry to say, but I'd trade that for a woman any day. At least I wouldn't have had to experience the non-natural way.
The news also treats male and female predators differently: "Man assaults 12 y/o boy" (shows ugly mugshot) "Woman caught having inappropriate relations." (shows prettier photos)
35M here. I was SA'd from the age of around 3 to 16. It's my first memory. It started at my babysitters by a teen girl and eventuall, my mom did it to me growing up. My mom even offered me to her friends. It took a lot of therapy to get to where I am at a healthy state of mind in my life because of this. Thank you guys for bringing this up, and I would be more than happy to tell my story to spread awareness even though no one was punished like this lady was.
Yes men I’ve spoken to have cried to me because this happened to them at that age!! It’s heartbreaking because most guys won’t speak publicly on this because they don’t want people to know that it does and has affected them!! Please be the the voice these young men need! I very sorry what you went through hon, I understand oh to well!
Were you ever able to make a case against your mom? That’s awful that she herself offered you. Sorry you had to go through that and hope you’re situation is better
@@samyud1819 No, I was not unfortunately. No one would ever listen to me because she would tell them I was lying... Like, yeah, she would come clean...
@@staceyrosado6402 That is the main reason I speak out, even on streams. I don't want anyone's voice unheard that is a victim of what I went through. If I hadn't become disabled, I would be running for office to help speak out for these issues.
When the newscaster guy said she looked 13, I was thinking, are you serious? She clearly looks 20 something. Stop justifying the actions of what she’s doing just because she’s pretty.
Yes exactly i’m a social worker and this stuff is just siiiiick also men are F simps and the reason A LOT of woman get away with d*mb stuff like OF and pedofilia and scamming people of money the guys are actually enabling all these problems in our societies
I’d say even worse, especially in the TCAP type series, she’s fully molested and videotaped these boys. And then to have to exist in a climate where other men laugh at you, after? These boys will never trust anyone again. And she’s probably just 1 of thousands who do things like this. (If my comment felt like it took away from other victims, or the seriousness of their cases, I apologize)
@Leannbby yeah idk wtf they talking about. There's so many male predators who get off on probation within 2 years. I've seen a few 5 year ones too but VERY rarely more than 5 for ANYONE not just women. Which is crazy because it should be 10-20 yr sentences at the minimum depending on the case.
Just remember, gender inequality can be things like "men get paid more than women" but it can also be "women are far less criticized for violent or sexual crimes than men"
men don't get paid more. averages take into account paid, partially paid, and unpaid leaves. these averages include times women take off for maternity leave. men don't need that. so the averages are affected by long term leaves like that. TL;DR average pay per annum based on gender is affected by leaves like maternity. men don't get pregnant, women do.
@@justpassingthrough7990 True. When in an equal job, with equal qualifications and having equal time invested into a company, we as women make the same as men across the board.
As someone who was molested at a young age, by a woman who was around this same age. It severely fucked me up, i still have panic attacks, nightmares, and i still flinch whenever my girlfriend tries to touch my arm or trys to play with my hair. The abuse will follow you the rest of your life.
South Park made a whole joke about that, Ike's preschool teacher had a relationship with him and everytime Kyle tried to get her locked away the Police just kept saying "Is she hot? Nice."
@@MonicaDGoh no…. I know what you’re saying and you’re absolutley right that that is the case for many. But (!!!) please don’t try to make excuses before we even know if that’s the case. It really dosen’t sound well.
@@zannadunstrand6289 I work with the domestic violence population. I work with adults and children who have been physically and sexually abused/raped/pregnant at 12/13 years old… that type of stuff. I also work with perpetrators. So I know and understand in depth how all this works. That being said, I can see how my comment would come across to people who don’t know about abuse and the psychology of it all. So *just to clarify* I don’t excuse abusive behavior.
Thank you for bringing attention to the DOUBLE STANDARD in the sentencing and charging of women of SA. This is minimizing the damage being done to boys.
Also does not help that US law only recognizes penetration as r@pe. So much so that if a lady p3do does not penetrate (in any sort of way) her victim/s the news/newspapers cannot even call her a r@pist. They have to use words like s3xual battery etc.
People talk about how if they are 14yr old they would want a girlfriend like her. But that’s not the point. If you think about that other way around: a 23 year old is attracted to babies, that’s disgusting.
I agree 100%! Not only that, the long term effects can be very damaging especially if they end up in abusive relationships. Men who are abused rarely report it and this is why. Boys and men aren't taken seriously and it's disgusting that society does this to them. This is gender inequality, which needs to change.
@@dragonfliesnh4204yeah but the issue here isn’t women, this ONE woman (the predator herself) is an issue but all of this is phrasing this like it’s women having the double standards and it’s all men saying that shit. And it’s also vast majority of men DOING the crimes, and getting away with it. It’s also majority men not believing victims that DO come forward. Boys or girls.
I was told legit by a female officer that men can't be assaulted sexually because our things poke up and that's voluntary. The double standard is insane. So many female predators go free because of this amd even when they do bring it up. A group of women always come out to defend them and say the male coerced her
First of all that is incredibly stupid. I am pretty sure you can easily force a man's thing to poke up. It doesn't matter if you are a hot 25 year old woman or a fat, ugly 59 year old man, stroke it hard enough it will stand up all the same. Dang that female officer must really hate men or never had a father or brothers in her life or something.
It's not voluntary. Getting an erection or becoming wet is body's reaction to any stimulation. It doesn't matter if it's consensual or not, that can happen regardless
I’m so sorry that happened to you! It’s insane that a police officer doesn’t realize that male genitalia getting “aroused” can literally be a natural and normal body function that has absolutely zero to do with actually getting “aroused” because it’s all about blood flow. An erection can occur even if you aren’t “in the mood.” And yes, men can be sexually assaulted and r@ped. So sorry you had to deal with such ignorance!
It’s truly amusing, but if we’re being fair this argument is used for any sexual assault victims. The fact that a police officer said it is really terrible, but unfortunately it’s a more common defense than it should be. I absolutely hate how sexual predatory assaults are like the most reprehensible, unexplainable crime and yet it’s the crime people try to find the most justification from.
How doesn't she understand the severity of these actions Thank you to whoever turned her in because there were WAY too many people who didn't have a problem with this situation
It's not child abuse. Teenage boys are not the same as little girls. I guarantee if you ask any man they will tell you that they wish this happened to them when they were in middle school or High School
As a male victim of SA by an older woman I can tell you it messes with your brain! And ruins future relationships. Just an FYI I was abused at 6 then again at 15 by my stepmother don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. At 36 and a father of 4 wonderful boys I'm past it but I can never forget!
Lost my virginity to an adult. I was 15. She was an adult. Very attractive. At 34 years old I do not look back fondly on that day as an adult. Its cause a few negative things in my life that I still worry about. For no reason at all I'll get anxiety. So yes, as a boy I was happy and proud. As an adult I feel ashamed and filled with regret. I whole hearted hope my nephews never get preyed on.
im sorry for what happened to u me and my bf went thru the same thing. Being assaulted especially by someone u thought u could trust really makes u have a hard time trusting others later down. Im going to therapy for the things that happened when i was a kid and teen.
@@Anonymous-jw3mk ok, I understand what you are saying. but kid and adult VS kid and car don't compare. it takes time even at 16 to learn how to drive a car, and anyone deranged enough can kill a mountain of people. we already seen it too many times across the last 5 years. and none of them, well at least most of them, were adult. doing that. also, having sexual relations with anyone at any age is not as convenient as hoping into a car. moral of the story is that even though were not talking about a killing spree, this is still the most disgusting thing a human can do. and even though you don't want to hear this, in reality, you need to hear more of it if you ever want to protect your own kids one day.
@@Anonymous-jw3mk Okay so your saying because its my fault of what happened. That I was aware? Yea of course I was aware. I even acted like it was cool. But as I said. As an adult I am not happy with that choice. I shouldn't have taken a bite of the apple because I was not ready for that experience. There are a lot of personal reasons why I feel this way. Seeing my nephews growing up and seeing how innocent children are. No, they should not be put in that position. So in your logic. I put the keys to the car on the top shelf for the kids I look after. I just wish someone would have done the same for me. The stress that put me through at the time sucked. Getting caught, get the person I thought loved me in trouble. Everything the doctor spoke about in the video is true. It messes with you whether you like it or not.
It’s sad the male victims get told that they’re “lucky” for getting assaulted by a woman. It’s gross, it’s disgusting, they don’t deserve to be told that. And if someone said that to a girl who got assaulted they would be seen as insane, but when it happens to a guy it’s “okay”. It’s gross societal standard. Men are victims too and deserve support and respect just as much as women.
Most likely be charged with obstruction of justice and tempering with evidence but I’m not a lawyer so I can’t say for sure but hopefully they’re prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
I've heard stories of boys in these situations feeling pressured to "be proud" of what happened to them. So they go along with it and pretend to "feel lucky" that they bagged a hot older woman. When deep down they feel violated and traumized but no one will listen to them, much less take them seriously. It's disgusting and disturbing. Anyone who perpetrates that double standard needs to be searched by the FBI.
Just stop with your lies and delusional made up stories. Here in real life those boys are happy they did this and wish they never got caught so they can continue doing this for as long as possible
Unfortunately too many people believe women cannot "take advantage" of men sexually, or even teenagers who have an underdeveloped brain and are hormone-driven. It's such a gross double-standard.
I think that why you always see Angela's house full of kids. Her and the other daughter has custody of them all. Angela might be crazy but I feel see does good by those grandkids of hers
@@savannahsherry2778 from what I’ve seen Scotty lives with her and those poor kids. There r tik tok videos of her filming them twerking and they r like 10. I can’t believe parole even allows her to live there.
The part that bugs me is when it's guys, it is r*p* (which is 100% accurate). But when it's women, they say "s*x" or *inappropriate relationship ". I'm like why are they downplaying it when it's vile regardless of who does it! Adding the ch*ld p****graphy to it 🤬🤬🤬
@@Southern_Made some treat it different when it’s their family cuz it’s like, “oh I’ll watch them, nothing will happen” except at night when shit does go down! They shouldn’t be around even their own younger family at all really, but if they wanna take a risk, be my guest! I have a relative going through that right now
The amount of times people have heard my SA story and many boys have gone ‘oh that’s so hot.’ Like no it wasn’t. It’s traumatic. I attempted to take my life. It’s not ‘hot’ it’s not ‘sexy’ it’s trauma.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you're recovering well. Just know that you matter and your feelings/experiences are completely valid, and don't ever let that POS rob you of what joy you've fought tooth and nail to attain. You deserve more, and you deserve better. 🤗💖
You were raped. It’s not funny, hot, sexy or awesome. Someone (I presume) destroyed your trust in people. They traumatized you, hopefully not for the rest of your life. I’m sorry that happened to you and I hope that you’re doing well.💙
The law system is created by men, the double standards are created by men. Men don’t see molestation as a bad thing because they are usually the one who perpetrate it. Only people letting women off for molestation men so keep that in mind.
I'm so glad that you're making a video like this, calling out a female predator. I feel like they aren't taken as seriously because people think that if a female predator goes after a little boy, the boy "enjoyed it" or the boy "totally had fun", which is not the case. It's so gross to me that people will downplay the actions of a female predators because they think their victims are somehow "lesser" or because the female predator is attractive. News flash: attractive people, male or female, can be disgusting pieces of sh*t. That's how predators get their victims, by being charming and attractive, breaking down the kid's boundaries.
I was in no way, shape or form ready for anything sexual at 13 and 14 years old and I'm sure there are a lot of boys who also feel the same way, whether they will admit it or not. You have to be 'ready' mentally and emotionally. I really don't believe anyone is at 13 or 14 no matter what the gender. Also, she shared the videos with her 'classmates'. WHAT? Is she in college and sending it to people she knows thinking this is a game?
It's not even that the boys don't want to admit it. It's that they're told by both men and women in their lives that if something like that happens to them, they're lucky and if they feel otherwise there's something wrong with them. So basically the adults in their lives gaslight them into thinking it's actually a good thing that happened to them. It's just one of those double standards where women commit the same crime as men but don't face any of the accountability. That's literally where the women and accountability don't belong in the same sentence. Meme comes from was from these types of cases
The problem is most Media encourages young boys to like older women and try to go for them. Its weird and no one ever mentions it. But when a young girl does it they are "boy crazy"
Society encourages sexual promiscuity by boys/men more. It's perfectly natural for teenagers to have desires for sexually attractive adults regardless of gender. It's completely wrong for an adult, again regardless of gender, to take advantage of those desires for their own gratification. Every comment I see along the lines of "man those boys had it lucky" makes me think the commenter has never been in a sexual relationship with anyone and experienced all the emotional complexities, neuroses, jealously that comes along with it - all of which can be overwhelming between two people of the same age but even more so when one is a child and one is an adult holding all the power.
Chris Hansen has spoken about this. I can’t remember exactly but there’s something about women predators that are more cautious about the online thing. They prey more on people they actually know or have spent physical time around. Interesting psychology
THANK YOU KEN! I know men are commonly shown as predators, but there are women who are predators too. It’s an adult taking sexual advantage of a child. Male or female; it does NOT matter
@@Kaydubbmakes sense if you put the punctuation in lol. The male victims will and do have mental scars even if they aren't apparent immediately. Everyone in their atmosphere is yelling "good score bro"
I'll never forget the day my dad bragged to me about how his babysitter took his virginity when he was 11 and she was 19....we argued about it, but in the end he doesn't believe it's an issue. Made me see him differently after that - not bc I thought he was bad or something, but I just pitied a part of him that he couldn't.
My bf told me a teacher tried to do the same thing to him and that the only reason he didn’t was because he had a gf at the time i told him that she was a pedo and that she probably should have been reported because wtf.
@@gnat4999 Legally and morally yes. There was a guy who won the lottery and had a three way with 2 of his teachers then bragged about it. Obviously it’s not a good thing regardless but there is a clear mixed reaction.
I am a 29 year old man, 6 foot 1 and 280 pounds. Bearded. In all black all the time. Totally unnaproachable and scary. I absolutely abhor people. I will never have a social life. I will never have a romantic life. This happened to me. At 14 years old by a 22 year old girl that introduced drugs, alchohol, abuse, rape so fluently into my life. This in addition to the rest of my trauma from a terrible young life ruined me. That family ruined me all that is left is hatred and pain. To anyone that is reading this I feel your pain. A lot of the time if you have a dick they will not listen. If you have a dick you "got lucky". That mentality makes me sick.
seriously yes. even if tcap never bagged any women. it showed me that predators can be all over the world. and its scary not knowing if its someone close. but you believe that it could never be my friends or my family.
@@jesse.delorey78it’s because women don’t tend to prey on random kids online - it’s more common that women abuse kids they have closer access to like their students, or kids they babysit, etc. SOSA discusses this too because they get asked about female perpetrators or lack of on the show undercover underage and that’s just the stats on that.
The twisted psychosis that makes these predators do what they do is the desire for power. As a mother of 4 boys, I would consider this woman just as dangerous as any creepy man in a chatroom.
I am not even 20 yet, and I can not even FATHOM talking to a 14 year old period, let alone in any suggestive way at all. The fact that people think it's okay, and want to justify it is disgusting
When you're younger, small age gaps are already serious business because of the large amount of growth happening at that stage. As a teen, the dateable range for me was +/- 2 years. I remember being 17 and thinking heck no to all 14 year olds.
The fact that the news report felt the need to explain why a teenage boy having sex with an adult woman is a bad thing is very alarming to me... If she was an old white guy they wouldn't have bothered...
I was groomed twice. Once by a man (who was additionally highly abusive in other way) and once by an older woman. He was 18, she was 32, I was 15. I hate talking about the latter incident because unlike the guy grooming me, where everyone is fairly understanding of how bad it was, all I get when I mention the second grooming is; "Was she hot?" "Dude you're lucky, stop complaining" "I wish that had happened to me" It's intensely frustrating. It can be done by both men and women, women just typically prey on either students, relatives or people that they know won't be suspecting them. It *does* happen. In my case I was actually coming FROM the abusive of the first time, and she told me so many promises, saying she'll make it all feel better, how I'll be safe with her. It took me four years to realize I was passed around.
Well, since they mentioned, the parents were trying to hinder the investigation I wonder where all this bad behavior was learned from? I’m pretty sure she didn’t just come up with this behavior on her own.
@@kenshinhimura9387 People like you are the problem of society you make men and boys come off as Lobotomize Horn dogs who just wants to be touched and groped by any woman at any age when that's not reality men are human beings you need to stop being weird and Get off the Internet with this weird fetish of yours because that's not reality maybe at that age they think they got lucky but when they get older they're goanna have a lot of problems
14 year old me would have been "I wish she'd picked me". Adult me realizes just how awful that would have ended up being, how much that would have messed me up. Adults who are thinking the boys are lucky have NO idea how bad it is
@@OArchivesX I get what your saying, and you are right. but kelleVonE is not wrong. Objectifying women or men is the damage that was done to them. children turning into adults and having trouble seeing people as people. whether if someone is aware or will eventually regret something that happened when they're younger I feel is a roll of the dice sadly.
Exactly. I had a very handsome 30-year-old teacher when I was 13/14. I, like most of the girls at my school, had a crush on him, and I’m sure he knew it seeing girls blush around him. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if even some boys had a crush on him LOL. At that time I would have definitely felt ‘lucky’ had he shown me any attention or affection or picked me. Now when I’m an adult and read about cases like this, I just thank my lucky stars the teacher wasn’t a creep and didn’t take advantage of his good looks and position of power.
@@Edyime i was 16 my first time but with another 16yo, its not okay if one person is above and the other below 18 And of course not everyone will have regrets, but many ppl do thats why these laws exist, ypur just not old enough to decide in that age
@@KATinBLACK haha, his camera crew are the hellhounds. now Chris Hanson reminds me of Naruto's kakashi with him summoning a bunch of dogs. Chris is unironically cooler now. kakashi even has lightning blade where he goes up to other rouge ninja to TAZE EM.
@@jesse.delorey78 the crew totally are! When Chris is like, “well I’d like to tell your, you’re on Dateline NBC!” and then they rush out and zoom in on the predators’ faces was always hilarious, and he’s still doing it today 😂
There’s a whole south park episode that touches on this. When it’s a female predator it’s always “nice”. Definitely double standards how their portrayed in media as well
Yes. Yet also some take plea deals. I'll keep this short. Had a guy rear-end me totaling my car he had no insurance. Somehow got a $9,000 fine and no license till paid off. GF at time had kid with him kicks him out and dumps him ends up paying child support. Moves in with friend. Friend finds he is selling CP reports him. Gets arrested yet no jail somehow because plea deal was if he told who he sold it to he just gets probation. Now works at a restaurant in another city. I know all this just because my lawyer for my insurance had to keep files on my case and the guy who hit my car and would update me.
I think if it was a black woman she would have been treated the way you guys would see fit…. With that being said hope she, after all of the uncovering, she has the maximum sentence to make this a monumental case about equality and is on the second offender list after her sentence is served
I think it’s a crazy form of sexism. Most men don’t see women as threatening or violent, consider them weaker, so they don’t see them as dangerous. Therefore, they see it as a joke when another “man” is attacked or hurt by a woman. Like because the rapist is a woman, it can’t be as bad as a man. I’m not saying this is my view, but I think this is the view that keeps the double standard.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious that it seems people in tiktok are forgetting: if she is what you think is pretty, the heck do you think her personality is like that NO ONE her age wants to date her? And it think it's disgusting she groomed those boys and then recorded them. I'm glad the judge denied bail, deeming her a danger to the community.
Thank you for addressing that hypocrisy! Also it comes at zero surprise that the woman doesn't know she did anything wrong. Thats a couple levels below "I'm just here to help!" What she did was right up there with the worst of the TCAP guys.
The fact they kept using the tiktok video where they are obviously trying to push the narrative of “look she’s a sexy young woman” makes it worse, they should have kept the storyline as simple as possible; adult female abuses and assaults children while distributing CP
This isn't really unusual when it comes to reporting female predators. I for example remember a news article from about 3-4 years ago about a female teacher in her 40s that slept with some of her students, and the article refered to her as a "cougar " an used a photo of her in a bikini posing on the beach.
So i have a male best friend who lost his virginity to an adult woman when he was 14. To this day when we're hanging out with some of our other guy friends, he'll bring it up like he was the one that got lucky and it was no big deal. I have to keep reminding him that no, he is a victim who was sexually assaulted by an adult, and the fact that it was a woman doesnt change a thing. Luckily his mom was in her right mind and prosecuted his assailant, but it just saddens me that he still perceives it like some kind of hilarious achievment because most men dont acknowledge how theyve been sexualized since childhood. We talk about women holding on to their innocence and purity as long as they can, but men are encouraged to sleep around and treat their bodies like garbage cans. We need to do better.
As a guy who was groomed by both men and women. It’s really hard to have a stable relationship. And trust anyone. It’s super hard. And the longer I’m alive the more I feel like it’s impossible bc of those things
The extra sad thing about guys dismissing male victims is that it doesn’t just discourage them from making reports but also stops them from talking about it in general putting more people in danger. When something happened to a woman even if they don’t go into detail they are more likely to tell their friends if someone is bad news and good friends will listen and tell others limiting their victim pool.
People used to think they should free bundy because he was hot. Dosnt change what he did. Same with her if she wasn’t hot people would say throw away the key. If it was an old wird lady like most preds then every one would be up in arms
You people talk about double standards, while you call this woman a "lady", yet you would never call a male predator a "gentleman". You're just as hypocr^^^cal
What struck me first is that she was only 23, and i know a lot of the predators they have on shows are older. But also gd only 23 and already 6+ offenses?? Jfc
My friend was abused by our 10th grade calc teacher. For like 5 years he would always coke n joke and brag. Thing is, once we got older and started to drink, dude had a few meltdowns about it. It most definitely hits you when you're older. He's 32 now and his wife tells me that it's still caused him some trust/intimacy issues that he's still working through in therapy. It might not mess you up immediately, or the same way, but it can def hit.
i’m assuming because coverage for female predators is scarce, and to catch a predator doesn’t use a method of catching predators that women usually fall victim to
The Hulu show, A Teacher, shows a good example of a women being the predator. She seeks out one of her students, gets caught, goes to jail but gets married and has kids of her own. She then seeks out her victim and try's to play the victim herself and he suffered big time dealing with being a male victim and people saying it's not big deal because he's a boy. It's the only thing I've ever really seen that tells the side of what boys go through when they are victims of pedos
Thts based off of a true story actually. The teacher actually married him after prison n had kids with him. They even did interviews together on TV. She passed away recently in like 2020 or something like tht (dont remember the exact yr) from cancer.
@@deziiluv I know which story you are talking about, that show though wasn't based on them. In the show, she goes to prison, doesn't get pregnant by him, has a hard time finding a job and relationships when she is released but does eventually get married and has kids. Only after she gets married, does she reach out to his victim to talk to him. When they meet up, she makes it seem like he seduced her and she was the victim but he suffered greatly. He reminded her that he was a minor and he was the victim, not her. It's a great show! The real story you are talking about is crazy and I feel so bad for him that he was stuck in that marriage. I think I read recently that he is in a new relationship, hopefully lots of therapy and well.
FINALLY A VIDEO ON THIS 🙌🙌🙌 I absolutely despise this topic as all humans should. Growing up i had a friend who was preyed upon by one of these “people” and just because he was a boy and the predator was a woman every adult he told laughed it off and said congrats. We still talk to this day and he hasn’t been able to keep a relationship cause whenever he gets intimate he has a panic attack. STOP THE DOUBLE STANDARDS!WOMEN CAN BE MONSTERS TOO!
I have a colleague that had relations with his elementary school teacher. He is so proud of that moment. But it is very clear with how he views women and acts in social situations, that crap had a huge effect on how he developed as an adult. And it is not for the good. But he is oblivious to it unfortunately.
I really appreciate how well yall balance your platform to be entertaining and silly but to include a message and spread awareness. It is a real talent and you deserve all the success
I’m so glad you spoke about this. I have no words for this monster. My heart hurts for the boys she abused.their families must feel so hurt and betrayed.
When I was in Junior high in the late 90’s a girl in my math class repeatedly tried to attack and stab me with a compass saying things like “I want to see you bleed”. I was physically holding her off. She was considered attractive so I think most laughed and thought it was flirting and it wasn’t taken very seriously. I didn’t want her to get in trouble I just wanted it to stop. It may be handled differently now, but I do think that there are some residual feelings of boys/men not being able to be abused by girls/women. Granted I would assume the vast majority of abuse is male abusers and female victims, but it can and does still happen and I hope boys/men can feel like they can speak up and not be laughed off or told to man up about it.
Fact- there are just as many and probably more male SA victims than female. Many go unreported, and just like with domestic abuse the ones that are aren't taken very seriously. Because men can't be victimized by women, I guess.
A married with kids 20something woman teacher slept with my HS guy friend, and nothing happened. There wasn't a big commotion. It wasn't in the papers. I believe she did get let go, but quietly. There is a HUGE double standard. This was in the early 2000s. But I do remember as a kid with Mary Kay Letourneau it was a huge deal, I wonder if that's because she had a kid, or if it was just a different time back then with no social media.
My husband was about 14 when he was graped by an older girl. She was 16 or 17. She groomed him and ‘dated’ him. No one considered it an assault. It effed him up a lot. It’s not sexy it’s a crime.
@@buttermepancake3613 I don't know. maybe because females are more caring on average than males are, and she took it the wrong way thinking she was just sending a video saying high, while shaking her trunk. again, I don't 100% know.
People need to talk more about female predators they are just as bad as male and it’s crazy how people saying that it’s ok for a teen boy to date an ADULT WOMEN!!
The problem lies in how people view predators when you think of a child predator you never think of women you think of men and the TCAP show. You never think about how much harder it is for a kid especially boys to convince people they were molested I’ve seen headlines like “Nanny who r*ped 11 year-old boy and had his baby is jailed for 20 years” these are the people who are supposed to be protecting the kids. I don’t remember the exact quote in the article but the mom even says something like “ we don’t think about females being predators”.
I am a victim of childhood SA, I was 8 years old when an adult man (19) did what he did to me. I grew up knowing what happened to me was wrong and sick. Then I worked with a man who confessed to me that when he was 12 his 22 year old babysitter had relations with him. He swore up and down he wanted it and it wasn't abuse. It took forever to get through to him. Its so different for boys, especially preteen and teen. They get told its cool and its normal and respected for hooking up with an older woman. Its heartbreaking.
Thats not how that works. A 19 year old is certainly developed enough to understand that raping a 8 year old child is wrong. It sounds like you are trying to make excuses for him. Rather then seeing the real picture which is that its objectivly wrong. @@MinecraftDezhusmam
@@MinecraftDezhusmamwhat kind of dumba$s logic is this? Yes he might have been young, but he was wayyy more mature than his victim. Bro was 19. Thats old enough to know its wrong and fucked up. He's a p3dophile. I believe minors can be p3dophiles too. If some 15 year old teen r@pes a 10 year old kid, then that teen would be a p3do.
Thank you for speaking out against this ridiculous double standard! It is disgusting for any adult, regardless of their gender, or their level of attractiveness, to have any sort of sexual relationship with these CHILDREN. Anyone who preys on teenagers is a PREDATOR and needs to be stopped! This woman groomed and molested children, and should be held accountable for her depraved actions.
I was 15 when an older woman sa'd me in front of at least 200 people at a sport stadium. Everyone who saw clapped and cheered as it happened. I remember trying to tell a friend what happened and they just said that sounds cool.
I didn't think too much of it after that but I did end up going through a dark time a few years later, and that experience ate away at me. So be sure to take it seriously if a friend opens up to you about it
@capo4270 No idea what he has been through but I feel for him, especially since we keep learning about all the shady stuff happening in Hollywood and record companies. Hopefully him and everyone else who has been through something similar can make peace with it.
@@justjay2477 thats such an awful situation you were put in. me and my friend are nearly 24, but my friend something happened 10 years ago with a family member and he never spoke about it to anyone. Ironically thats how long I new him was roughly 10 years and we only connected back in the COD BO3 days. he ended up being my closest friend, and when he broke the news to me only months ago, I was actually speechless. like, he never sounded they way he did than that day, and the whole time I never knew. and the signs were there, I just figured weed and alcohol at a young age are a lot more difficult to pace yourself with if you grew up on it. and that was it. you have to know who you can trust to tell these stories too, and it won't always be your family you can trust. but only if have that trusted person to back you before speaking to more people. that was for you but I might just make this its own comment.
This kind of male child will grow up to have some kind of sexual deviance Or perhaps they go asexual because they grow to feel violated This women is disgusting
"They're still a child," has to be the most raw line in any case of child abuse, sexual or otherwise.
13 and 14 are not children please stop treating them like children until they are 18. Teenagers should be treated like teenagers and guided into adult hood. When you treat them like children till they are a certain age they will not be able to be adults just like now.
@@MrWhateverfitsyou friends with P diddler?
13 and 14 are still children, they're young and don't know half of the decisions they make, they're not adults at that age. Maybe when they're 16 or 17 or something but still those ages are too young. They're still minors. @MrWhateverfits
@@MrWhateverfits in case your not aware the only thing saying shit like this does is make it sound like you touch children. Which, to be clear is exactly what a 14 year old is. Hell in every sense except legally an 18 year old is still a kid.
@@MrWhateverfits Teenagers in any age are still children.
As someone who was molested as a child by a man and woman. Nothing frustrates me more than the double standard. My husband was molested by a woman when he was 3. It is more rare doesn't make it ok. It's disgusting.
I was 5, older female relative
I was 13, had to deal with a middle aged man.
Sorry to say, but I'd trade that for a woman any day.
At least I wouldn't have had to experience the non-natural way.
I'm sorry this happened to you
I’m so so sorry that happened to the both of you 😢
It's not rare, they just rarely get caught.
The news also treats male and female predators differently:
"Man assaults 12 y/o boy" (shows ugly mugshot)
"Woman caught having inappropriate relations." (shows prettier photos)
Full on showed one of her tiktoks BEFORE a mugshot
?? They show her ugly mugshot at :30? Literally seconds into the news report lol.
Judges also seem to have the same attitude, they unironically get easier sentences for the same crime when it comes to predating on children
I think women are just prettier than men, I don’t think there’s any ugly photos of her
@@Alexandra-ng1ihthat mugshot wasn't pretty
35M here. I was SA'd from the age of around 3 to 16. It's my first memory. It started at my babysitters by a teen girl and eventuall, my mom did it to me growing up. My mom even offered me to her friends. It took a lot of therapy to get to where I am at a healthy state of mind in my life because of this. Thank you guys for bringing this up, and I would be more than happy to tell my story to spread awareness even though no one was punished like this lady was.
Yes men I’ve spoken to have cried to me because this happened to them at that age!! It’s heartbreaking because most guys won’t speak publicly on this because they don’t want people to know that it does and has affected them!! Please be the the voice these young men need! I very sorry what you went through hon, I understand oh to well!
Were you ever able to make a case against your mom? That’s awful that she herself offered you. Sorry you had to go through that and hope you’re situation is better
@@samyud1819 No, I was not unfortunately. No one would ever listen to me because she would tell them I was lying... Like, yeah, she would come clean...
@@staceyrosado6402 That is the main reason I speak out, even on streams. I don't want anyone's voice unheard that is a victim of what I went through. If I hadn't become disabled, I would be running for office to help speak out for these issues.
When the newscaster guy said she looked 13, I was thinking, are you serious? She clearly looks 20 something. Stop justifying the actions of what she’s doing just because she’s pretty.
“Pretty”
Yes exactly i’m a social worker and this stuff is just siiiiick also men are F simps and the reason A LOT of woman get away with d*mb stuff like OF and pedofilia and scamming people of money the guys are actually enabling all these problems in our societies
"Doing"
@@herrzerfas5310 look at mr. Chad Highstandards over here
But she's not even pretty she's like a 5 If she wasn't a child predator and a negative 12 since she is
She is still as evil and cruel as any other predator.
I’d say even worse, especially in the TCAP type series, she’s fully molested and videotaped these boys. And then to have to exist in a climate where other men laugh at you, after? These boys will never trust anyone again. And she’s probably just 1 of thousands who do things like this.
(If my comment felt like it took away from other victims, or the seriousness of their cases, I apologize)
@@dimitrispapageorgiou7935 Never become a parent.
@@dimitrispapageorgiou7935no kid wants to be sexually abused. Ever.
Incel.
@@dimitrispapageorgiou7935
@PJ_Playz I’m not a part of the problem as long as I don’t harass anyone. All I say is I’d tap that 🤷
I could be charged with 5 counts of petty theft and be treated worse by the media than a woman charged with 5 counts of pedophilia.
wow man, thats messed up, you should probably doing life plus 190 years for that.
And male predators. We already know this. Y’all are acting like it isn’t well known that male predators get off the vast majority of the time lol
@@Leannbbyunfortunately though, female predators often don’t get jail time at all…
@@Leannbby That's because they're the ones always getting caught.
@Leannbby yeah idk wtf they talking about. There's so many male predators who get off on probation within 2 years. I've seen a few 5 year ones too but VERY rarely more than 5 for ANYONE not just women. Which is crazy because it should be 10-20 yr sentences at the minimum depending on the case.
“She looks like a 13 year old”. Cuts to a 23 year old looking like a 43 year old.
Right 💀
She looks 19 in her TikTok videos
he meant the way she was acting
Right?!? My niece is 13 and she looks NOTHING like that...bc she is still a CHILD
I could see the tiktok passing her for like, 16-18; she ain't fooling anyone saying she's 14 tho lmao, those boys knew.
Just remember, gender inequality can be things like "men get paid more than women" but it can also be "women are far less criticized for violent or sexual crimes than men"
men don't get paid more. averages take into account paid, partially paid, and unpaid leaves. these averages include times women take off for maternity leave. men don't need that. so the averages are affected by long term leaves like that.
TL;DR average pay per annum based on gender is affected by leaves like maternity. men don't get pregnant, women do.
@@justpassingthrough7990men also generally generate more income and work more so...
@@justpassingthrough7990 True. When in an equal job, with equal qualifications and having equal time invested into a company, we as women make the same as men across the board.
@@betsybabf748 unless its a workplace that enforces "equal pay" the women make more than men because they get paid the same for less hours.
@@Razzlion in what world do you live cause i'd like to live there
As someone who was molested at a young age, by a woman who was around this same age. It severely fucked me up, i still have panic attacks, nightmares, and i still flinch whenever my girlfriend tries to touch my arm or trys to play with my hair. The abuse will follow you the rest of your life.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope your girlfriend is super sympathetic to your trauma (I’m sure she is)
South Park made a whole joke about that, Ike's preschool teacher had a relationship with him and everytime Kyle tried to get her locked away the Police just kept saying "Is she hot? Nice."
They are always on the nose about things
I love South park because they touch of sensitive topic with humor and ACTUALLY make it funny while simultaneously making people aware of it
How are people offended nowadays when we literally watched south park when we where younge
Ma'am..MA'AM NO! Why won't adults leave the babies alone?!??
He got to bust a 🥜 and learned to be a man.
Comment deleting losers can't handle real humor.
Shut up woman go wash that dirty dish pile
@@MonicaDGoh no…. I know what you’re saying and you’re absolutley right that that is the case for many. But (!!!) please don’t try to make excuses before we even know if that’s the case. It really dosen’t sound well.
@@zannadunstrand6289 I work with the domestic violence population. I work with adults and children who have been physically and sexually abused/raped/pregnant at 12/13 years old… that type of stuff. I also work with perpetrators. So I know and understand in depth how all this works. That being said, I can see how my comment would come across to people who don’t know about abuse and the psychology of it all. So *just to clarify* I don’t excuse abusive behavior.
Thank you for bringing attention to the DOUBLE STANDARD in the sentencing and charging of women of SA. This is minimizing the damage being done to boys.
The double standard is created by men. No owoman has ever said this is OK. It’s only the boys saying how jealous
Also does not help that US law only recognizes penetration as r@pe. So much so that if a lady p3do does not penetrate (in any sort of way) her victim/s the news/newspapers cannot even call her a r@pist. They have to use words like s3xual battery etc.
People talk about how if they are 14yr old they would want a girlfriend like her. But that’s not the point. If you think about that other way around: a 23 year old is attracted to babies, that’s disgusting.
I agree 100%! Not only that, the long term effects can be very damaging especially if they end up in abusive relationships. Men who are abused rarely report it and this is why. Boys and men aren't taken seriously and it's disgusting that society does this to them. This is gender inequality, which needs to change.
@@dragonfliesnh4204yeah but the issue here isn’t women, this ONE woman (the predator herself) is an issue but all of this is phrasing this like it’s women having the double standards and it’s all men saying that shit. And it’s also vast majority of men DOING the crimes, and getting away with it. It’s also majority men not believing victims that DO come forward. Boys or girls.
I was told legit by a female officer that men can't be assaulted sexually because our things poke up and that's voluntary.
The double standard is insane. So many female predators go free because of this amd even when they do bring it up. A group of women always come out to defend them and say the male coerced her
its truly sickening
First of all that is incredibly stupid. I am pretty sure you can easily force a man's thing to poke up. It doesn't matter if you are a hot 25 year old woman or a fat, ugly 59 year old man, stroke it hard enough it will stand up all the same. Dang that female officer must really hate men or never had a father or brothers in her life or something.
It's not voluntary. Getting an erection or becoming wet is body's reaction to any stimulation. It doesn't matter if it's consensual or not, that can happen regardless
I’m so sorry that happened to you! It’s insane that a police officer doesn’t realize that male genitalia getting “aroused” can literally be a natural and normal body function that has absolutely zero to do with actually getting “aroused” because it’s all about blood flow. An erection can occur even if you aren’t “in the mood.” And yes, men can be sexually assaulted and r@ped. So sorry you had to deal with such ignorance!
It’s truly amusing, but if we’re being fair this argument is used for any sexual assault victims. The fact that a police officer said it is really terrible, but unfortunately it’s a more common defense than it should be.
I absolutely hate how sexual predatory assaults are like the most reprehensible, unexplainable crime and yet it’s the crime people try to find the most justification from.
How doesn't she understand the severity of these actions Thank you to whoever turned her in because there were WAY too many people who didn't have a problem with this situation
People's attitudes towards cases like this really piss me off. Even if it's an attractive woman sleeping with a teenage boy, IT'S STILL CHILD ABUSE!
It’s not “people “it’s only men
@@Alexandra-ng1ihI guess men aren't people.
@@Alexandra-ng1ih no, its people. your comment is part of the reason why regular men and women can't be equal.
It's not child abuse. Teenage boys are not the same as little girls. I guarantee if you ask any man they will tell you that they wish this happened to them when they were in middle school or High School
@kenshinhimura9387 do you know many 14yo girls want to date 21+ guys, do you is it still ok?
As a male victim of SA by an older woman I can tell you it messes with your brain!
And ruins future relationships.
Just an FYI I was abused at 6 then again at 15 by my stepmother don't think I don't know what I'm talking about.
At 36 and a father of 4 wonderful boys I'm past it but I can never forget!
I hope more ppl read this,
Its an important message mate
People on TikTok and everywhere else are calling anyone who criticizes her an “incel”. We live in a gynocentric society for suuuure. Crazy
@@BD-1-And-Only and that matters why?
There's the wondering what would I be like if it never happened?
@@joedove6875 Are you dumb?
Lost my virginity to an adult. I was 15. She was an adult. Very attractive. At 34 years old I do not look back fondly on that day as an adult. Its cause a few negative things in my life that I still worry about. For no reason at all I'll get anxiety. So yes, as a boy I was happy and proud. As an adult I feel ashamed and filled with regret. I whole hearted hope my nephews never get preyed on.
im sorry for what happened to u me and my bf went thru the same thing. Being assaulted especially by someone u thought u could trust really makes u have a hard time trusting others later down. Im going to therapy for the things that happened when i was a kid and teen.
@@sleepy_cinnabun keep on keeping on.
@Anonymous-jw3mk
bro wtf are you tweaking on to just say that as a downplay to wtf happened to him??? get off that shit.
@@Anonymous-jw3mk ok, I understand what you are saying. but kid and adult VS kid and car don't compare. it takes time even at 16 to learn how to drive a car, and anyone deranged enough can kill a mountain of people. we already seen it too many times across the last 5 years. and none of them, well at least most of them, were adult. doing that.
also, having sexual relations with anyone at any age is not as convenient as hoping into a car.
moral of the story is that even though were not talking about a killing spree, this is still the most disgusting thing a human can do. and even though you don't want to hear this, in reality, you need to hear more of it if you ever want to protect your own kids one day.
@@Anonymous-jw3mk Okay so your saying because its my fault of what happened. That I was aware? Yea of course I was aware. I even acted like it was cool. But as I said. As an adult I am not happy with that choice. I shouldn't have taken a bite of the apple because I was not ready for that experience. There are a lot of personal reasons why I feel this way. Seeing my nephews growing up and seeing how innocent children are. No, they should not be put in that position. So in your logic. I put the keys to the car on the top shelf for the kids I look after. I just wish someone would have done the same for me. The stress that put me through at the time sucked. Getting caught, get the person I thought loved me in trouble. Everything the doctor spoke about in the video is true. It messes with you whether you like it or not.
As someone who was sexually abused by my female carer as a young boy this hits home the double standards need to change
I am so sorry that has happened to you. I'll be praying for your healing.
It’s sad the male victims get told that they’re “lucky” for getting assaulted by a woman. It’s gross, it’s disgusting, they don’t deserve to be told that. And if someone said that to a girl who got assaulted they would be seen as insane, but when it happens to a guy it’s “okay”. It’s gross societal standard. Men are victims too and deserve support and respect just as much as women.
Parents need to be prosecuted aswell. They tried to hide her phone /evidence.
Most likely be charged with obstruction of justice and tempering with evidence but I’m not a lawyer so I can’t say for sure but hopefully they’re prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
I've heard stories of boys in these situations feeling pressured to "be proud" of what happened to them. So they go along with it and pretend to "feel lucky" that they bagged a hot older woman. When deep down they feel violated and traumized but no one will listen to them, much less take them seriously. It's disgusting and disturbing. Anyone who perpetrates that double standard needs to be searched by the FBI.
Just stop with your lies and delusional made up stories. Here in real life those boys are happy they did this and wish they never got caught so they can continue doing this for as long as possible
Unfortunately too many people believe women cannot "take advantage" of men sexually, or even teenagers who have an underdeveloped brain and are hormone-driven. It's such a gross double-standard.
These are the young boys that become men that hate, assault and murder women
Speaking of female predators just found out our friend Angela from 90 days daughter Scotty did the same thing to a 13 year old! 1 year in prison!
I think that why you always see Angela's house full of kids. Her and the other daughter has custody of them all. Angela might be crazy but I feel see does good by those grandkids of hers
@@savannahsherry2778 from what I’ve seen Scotty lives with her and those poor kids. There r tik tok videos of her filming them twerking and they r like 10. I can’t believe parole even allows her to live there.
The part that bugs me is when it's guys, it is r*p* (which is 100% accurate). But when it's women, they say "s*x" or *inappropriate relationship ". I'm like why are they downplaying it when it's vile regardless of who does it! Adding the ch*ld p****graphy to it 🤬🤬🤬
@@Southern_Made some treat it different when it’s their family cuz it’s like, “oh I’ll watch them, nothing will happen” except at night when shit does go down! They shouldn’t be around even their own younger family at all really, but if they wanna take a risk, be my guest! I have a relative going through that right now
It should be life
No matter the gender or attractiveness, a predator is a predator! Good job for the judge for keep her in jail!!
What... she made CP and distributed it. This monster needs to get the maximum punishment.
She's a woman. She'll get a week in county before they decide to release her for good behavior
I see a lot of people saying “where was she when I was 14 years old?”, but it’s like what if that happened to your own kid.
Exacly,
Even if they like it in the moment they will regret it at some point in there lifes,
Shit like that always leaves a mark
It’s only men saying that, remember❤
@@Alexandra-ng1ih what do you mean?
They're not saying "Where is she for my son?" They're expressing a sick fantasy that they know would never work out in real life.
@@KalleVonEi I already replied to her twice. she doesn't like any men.
The amount of times people have heard my SA story and many boys have gone ‘oh that’s so hot.’ Like no it wasn’t. It’s traumatic. I attempted to take my life.
It’s not ‘hot’ it’s not ‘sexy’ it’s trauma.
And the lack of validation compounds the trauma. 😔
Omg I'm so sorry 😢❤ I hope you feel better now. You are worthy and these shouldn't happen to anyone.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you're recovering well. Just know that you matter and your feelings/experiences are completely valid, and don't ever let that POS rob you of what joy you've fought tooth and nail to attain. You deserve more, and you deserve better. 🤗💖
You were raped. It’s not funny, hot, sexy or awesome. Someone (I presume) destroyed your trust in people. They traumatized you, hopefully not for the rest of your life. I’m sorry that happened to you and I hope that you’re doing well.💙
Thank you for sharing.
She's going to get off scott free with a slap on the wrist. I despise double standards.
To be fair the penalties for the male offenders are also lacking.
The law system is created by men, the double standards are created by men. Men don’t see molestation as a bad thing because they are usually the one who perpetrate it. Only people letting women off for molestation men so keep that in mind.
@@Justin-pe9cl No it's actually not fair, it isn't a close.
@shiningdragon8737 my guy even male chomos get special protection and light sentences in prison, what are you smoking
@@shiningdragon8737 Another one who can’t read.
I'm so glad that you're making a video like this, calling out a female predator. I feel like they aren't taken as seriously because people think that if a female predator goes after a little boy, the boy "enjoyed it" or the boy "totally had fun", which is not the case. It's so gross to me that people will downplay the actions of a female predators because they think their victims are somehow "lesser" or because the female predator is attractive.
News flash: attractive people, male or female, can be disgusting pieces of sh*t. That's how predators get their victims, by being charming and attractive, breaking down the kid's boundaries.
I was in no way, shape or form ready for anything sexual at 13 and 14 years old and I'm sure there are a lot of boys who also feel the same way, whether they will admit it or not. You have to be 'ready' mentally and emotionally. I really don't believe anyone is at 13 or 14 no matter what the gender. Also, she shared the videos with her 'classmates'. WHAT? Is she in college and sending it to people she knows thinking this is a game?
Facts
Exactly, at 22 I still don’t even think I’m ready. I couldn’t imagine at 13-14 and doing that with an adult. I feel for those kids
It's not even that the boys don't want to admit it. It's that they're told by both men and women in their lives that if something like that happens to them, they're lucky and if they feel otherwise there's something wrong with them. So basically the adults in their lives gaslight them into thinking it's actually a good thing that happened to them. It's just one of those double standards where women commit the same crime as men but don't face any of the accountability. That's literally where the women and accountability don't belong in the same sentence. Meme comes from was from these types of cases
The problem is most Media encourages young boys to like older women and try to go for them. Its weird and no one ever mentions it. But when a young girl does it they are "boy crazy"
Society encourages sexual promiscuity by boys/men more. It's perfectly natural for teenagers to have desires for sexually attractive adults regardless of gender. It's completely wrong for an adult, again regardless of gender, to take advantage of those desires for their own gratification.
Every comment I see along the lines of "man those boys had it lucky" makes me think the commenter has never been in a sexual relationship with anyone and experienced all the emotional complexities, neuroses, jealously that comes along with it - all of which can be overwhelming between two people of the same age but even more so when one is a child and one is an adult holding all the power.
@@goldenappelYou said it perfectly thank you
Media huh…
I don't recall ever seeing a woman as the predator on TCAP. I know they exist (clearly) but I am just surprised that they never got any.
usually because they don’t tend to use apps to find victims. female predators tend to use their connections and careers to find people to prey on
Chris Hansen explained that according to psychologists, female predators are usually in schools bc they don't like anonymity
Most female abusers would groom those close to them vs going on online forums 😢
That's because men seek children through online means, while women target children they are close to, hence all the female teacher predators
Chris Hansen has spoken about this. I can’t remember exactly but there’s something about women predators that are more cautious about the online thing. They prey more on people they actually know or have spent physical time around. Interesting psychology
I'm so glad she at least got a female judge. If she got a male judge she probably would get even less time
Thank you for calling out the double standard.
Someone who was groomed by a woman when I was young… the double standard is so mind-boggling to me!
THANK YOU KEN! I know men are commonly shown as predators, but there are women who are predators too. It’s an adult taking sexual advantage of a child. Male or female; it does NOT matter
It's always the guys that say "listen to male victims" but then call male victims "lucky"
Men are men’s biggest enemy.
@@Kaydubbmakes absolute sense. Most Men don’t normally take other men being victims seriously. It’s a joke to other men.
@@KaydubbYes it does, you’re just slow.
@@Kaydubbmakes sense if you put the punctuation in lol. The male victims will and do have mental scars even if they aren't apparent immediately. Everyone in their atmosphere is yelling "good score bro"
to be fair, no one asked the 14 year old boys how they felt about it. she was reported by one of their female classmates. they probably liked it, tbh.
I'll never forget the day my dad bragged to me about how his babysitter took his virginity when he was 11 and she was 19....we argued about it, but in the end he doesn't believe it's an issue. Made me see him differently after that - not bc I thought he was bad or something, but I just pitied a part of him that he couldn't.
Bro wtf 💀
Honestly it is different when the rolls are reversed. The crime should be treated the same regardless.
My bf told me a teacher tried to do the same thing to him and that the only reason he didn’t was because he had a gf at the time i told him that she was a pedo and that she probably should have been reported because wtf.
@@Justin-pe9clit isnt
@@gnat4999 Legally and morally yes. There was a guy who won the lottery and had a three way with 2 of his teachers then bragged about it. Obviously it’s not a good thing regardless but there is a clear mixed reaction.
I am a 29 year old man, 6 foot 1 and 280 pounds. Bearded. In all black all the time. Totally unnaproachable and scary. I absolutely abhor people. I will never have a social life. I will never have a romantic life. This happened to me. At 14 years old by a 22 year old girl that introduced drugs, alchohol, abuse, rape so fluently into my life. This in addition to the rest of my trauma from a terrible young life ruined me. That family ruined me all that is left is hatred and pain. To anyone that is reading this I feel your pain. A lot of the time if you have a dick they will not listen. If you have a dick you "got lucky". That mentality makes me sick.
As a teenager I would be jealous.
Now as an adult and a father, i just see another predator taking advantage of children.
Creeps come in all shapes and sizes...
seriously yes. even if tcap never bagged any women. it showed me that predators can be all over the world. and its scary not knowing if its someone close. but you believe that it could never be my friends or my family.
@@jesse.delorey78it’s because women don’t tend to prey on random kids online - it’s more common that women abuse kids they have closer access to like their students, or kids they babysit, etc.
SOSA discusses this too because they get asked about female perpetrators or lack of on the show undercover underage and that’s just the stats on that.
Phrasing
@@izzyyt1yup, like a lot of these female teachers who have been coming up in the news this past year
The twisted psychosis that makes these predators do what they do is the desire for power. As a mother of 4 boys, I would consider this woman just as dangerous as any creepy man in a chatroom.
I am not even 20 yet, and I can not even FATHOM talking to a 14 year old period, let alone in any suggestive way at all. The fact that people think it's okay, and want to justify it is disgusting
When you're younger, small age gaps are already serious business because of the large amount of growth happening at that stage. As a teen, the dateable range for me was +/- 2 years. I remember being 17 and thinking heck no to all 14 year olds.
Notice how it's "having sex" and not "raping" double standard is ridiculous.
The fact that the news report felt the need to explain why a teenage boy having sex with an adult woman is a bad thing is very alarming to me...
If she was an old white guy they wouldn't have bothered...
I was groomed twice. Once by a man (who was additionally highly abusive in other way) and once by an older woman. He was 18, she was 32, I was 15.
I hate talking about the latter incident because unlike the guy grooming me, where everyone is fairly understanding of how bad it was, all I get when I mention the second grooming is;
"Was she hot?"
"Dude you're lucky, stop complaining"
"I wish that had happened to me"
It's intensely frustrating. It can be done by both men and women, women just typically prey on either students, relatives or people that they know won't be suspecting them. It *does* happen. In my case I was actually coming FROM the abusive of the first time, and she told me so many promises, saying she'll make it all feel better, how I'll be safe with her.
It took me four years to realize I was passed around.
That sucks, i am sorry for you, i hope you got better and you are okay now.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm praying for you. I am glad that you are out of that situation. You are strong and worthy. Never forget that.
She does look like a teen--if you're living in one of those 90's era teen movies.
yeah, where they mostly hired adult stars to play high school or even middle school students.
Kisha - 15 years old
*/Portrayed by a 35 year old woman/*
Typa shit.
Who would believe she is 14 years old??
Also even if they think she’s older they are horny kids and really manipulated into being up for it with an olde chick
She must have really edited her pictures and used a lot of filters because she looks older than me and I'm almost 30.
Idk man I have gotten people’s ages way off before.
I've seen kids look like that in high school 5 years ago, I'm scared about today by all the sephora rage
@@Thatsmypurseidontknowyou94I mean yes but she doesn’t look like she’d be 14
If they are 13 or 14, THEY'RE NOT OF LEGAL AGE. And even if they were 16+ that still doesn't make it okay. That's still a child.
Well, since they mentioned, the parents were trying to hinder the investigation I wonder where all this bad behavior was learned from? I’m pretty sure she didn’t just come up with this behavior on her own.
no, these boys are not "lucky". she is a horrible woman who committed a horrible crime
They are super lucky. Stop trying to deny reality
@@kenshinhimura9387sad b8
@@kenshinhimura9387 they ain't. Why don't you stop trying to spread BS.
@@kenshinhimura9387 People like you are the problem of society you make men and boys come off as Lobotomize Horn dogs who just wants to be touched and groped by any woman at any age when that's not reality men are human beings you need to stop being weird and Get off the Internet with this weird fetish of yours because that's not reality maybe at that age they think they got lucky but when they get older they're goanna have a lot of problems
@@redfrog1628 I lived through a man doing horrible things to me.
Trust me, it's not "bs". I'd trade that for a pretty woman any day.
14 year old me would have been "I wish she'd picked me". Adult me realizes just how awful that would have ended up being, how much that would have messed me up. Adults who are thinking the boys are lucky have NO idea how bad it is
Exacly! Sure the 14yo could like it
But they will regret it later on
@@OArchivesX I get what your saying, and you are right. but kelleVonE is not wrong. Objectifying women or men is the damage that was done to them. children turning into adults and having trouble seeing people as people. whether if someone is aware or will eventually regret something that happened when they're younger I feel is a roll of the dice sadly.
Exactly. I had a very handsome 30-year-old teacher when I was 13/14. I, like most of the girls at my school, had a crush on him, and I’m sure he knew it seeing girls blush around him. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if even some boys had a crush on him LOL. At that time I would have definitely felt ‘lucky’ had he shown me any attention or affection or picked me. Now when I’m an adult and read about cases like this, I just thank my lucky stars the teacher wasn’t a creep and didn’t take advantage of his good looks and position of power.
@@KalleVonEi Not necessarily. I was 13 my first time and no regrets at all.
@@Edyime i was 16 my first time but with another 16yo, its not okay if one person is above and the other below 18
And of course not everyone will have regrets, but many ppl do thats why these laws exist, ypur just not old enough to decide in that age
Chris Hansen,sic' em
That pfp with your comment makes it seem like Chris Hansen is like some viscous hellhound 😂
TASE EM
@@KATinBLACK haha, his camera crew are the hellhounds.
now Chris Hanson reminds me of Naruto's kakashi with him summoning a bunch of dogs. Chris is unironically cooler now.
kakashi even has lightning blade where he goes up to other rouge ninja to TAZE EM.
@@KATinBLACKhe is have you seen his videos?😂😂😂😂 this guy made me laugh your comment also made me laugh
@@jesse.delorey78 the crew totally are! When Chris is like, “well I’d like to tell your, you’re on Dateline NBC!” and then they rush out and zoom in on the predators’ faces was always hilarious, and he’s still doing it today 😂
Makes me sick as a mom of 2 boys…
There’s a whole south park episode that touches on this. When it’s a female predator it’s always “nice”. Definitely double standards how their portrayed in media as well
Isn't sending that video distribution of CP? WTF
Yes
Yes. Yet also some take plea deals. I'll keep this short. Had a guy rear-end me totaling my car he had no insurance. Somehow got a $9,000 fine and no license till paid off. GF at time had kid with him kicks him out and dumps him ends up paying child support. Moves in with friend. Friend finds he is selling CP reports him. Gets arrested yet no jail somehow because plea deal was if he told who he sold it to he just gets probation. Now works at a restaurant in another city. I know all this just because my lawyer for my insurance had to keep files on my case and the guy who hit my car and would update me.
@@SharkBait19904wth!
It’s funny the double standard when it comes to lady predators. It’s literally the subject of a great South Park episode about this.
"Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy!" It's both sad and amazing how relevant that episode still is.
Nniiiiiicceeeeeee
I think if it was a black woman she would have been treated the way you guys would see fit…. With that being said hope she, after all of the uncovering, she has the maximum sentence to make this a monumental case about equality and is on the second offender list after her sentence is served
@@julianajaxson I don't think race matters in this situation
I think it’s a crazy form of sexism. Most men don’t see women as threatening or violent, consider them weaker, so they don’t see them as dangerous. Therefore, they see it as a joke when another “man” is attacked or hurt by a woman. Like because the rapist is a woman, it can’t be as bad as a man. I’m not saying this is my view, but I think this is the view that keeps the double standard.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious that it seems people in tiktok are forgetting: if she is what you think is pretty, the heck do you think her personality is like that NO ONE her age wants to date her?
And it think it's disgusting she groomed those boys and then recorded them. I'm glad the judge denied bail, deeming her a danger to the community.
yah exactly and/or she’s just not attracted to guys her age
If that was a man people would be like, "give him 15 years!" Society is truly fucked up 😢
She is freaking sick going after a little boy
Thank you for addressing that hypocrisy! Also it comes at zero surprise that the woman doesn't know she did anything wrong. Thats a couple levels below "I'm just here to help!" What she did was right up there with the worst of the TCAP guys.
The hypocrisy is almost as bad as the crime. Disgusting and evil regardless of gender.
The fact they kept using the tiktok video where they are obviously trying to push the narrative of “look she’s a sexy young woman” makes it worse, they should have kept the storyline as simple as possible; adult female abuses and assaults children while distributing CP
This isn't really unusual when it comes to reporting female predators.
I for example remember a news article from about 3-4 years ago about a female teacher in her 40s that slept with some of her students, and the article refered to her as a "cougar " an used a photo of her in a bikini posing on the beach.
So i have a male best friend who lost his virginity to an adult woman when he was 14. To this day when we're hanging out with some of our other guy friends, he'll bring it up like he was the one that got lucky and it was no big deal. I have to keep reminding him that no, he is a victim who was sexually assaulted by an adult, and the fact that it was a woman doesnt change a thing.
Luckily his mom was in her right mind and prosecuted his assailant, but it just saddens me that he still perceives it like some kind of hilarious achievment because most men dont acknowledge how theyve been sexualized since childhood. We talk about women holding on to their innocence and purity as long as they can, but men are encouraged to sleep around and treat their bodies like garbage cans.
We need to do better.
its his trauma he may be dealing with it in a bad way but constantly trying to force him to accept something will just reinfornce it.
As a guy who was groomed by both men and women. It’s really hard to have a stable relationship. And trust anyone. It’s super hard. And the longer I’m alive the more I feel like it’s impossible bc of those things
The extra sad thing about guys dismissing male victims is that it doesn’t just discourage them from making reports but also stops them from talking about it in general putting more people in danger. When something happened to a woman even if they don’t go into detail they are more likely to tell their friends if someone is bad news and good friends will listen and tell others limiting their victim pool.
People used to think they should free bundy because he was hot. Dosnt change what he did. Same with her if she wasn’t hot people would say throw away the key. If it was an old wird lady like most preds then every one would be up in arms
There are people who were overly obsessed with Dahmer too.
You people talk about double standards, while you call this woman a "lady", yet you would never call a male predator a "gentleman". You're just as hypocr^^^cal
What struck me first is that she was only 23, and i know a lot of the predators they have on shows are older. But also gd only 23 and already 6+ offenses?? Jfc
Wish I could switch places to save those kids
My friend was abused by our 10th grade calc teacher. For like 5 years he would always coke n joke and brag. Thing is, once we got older and started to drink, dude had a few meltdowns about it. It most definitely hits you when you're older. He's 32 now and his wife tells me that it's still caused him some trust/intimacy issues that he's still working through in therapy. It might not mess you up immediately, or the same way, but it can def hit.
i was wondering when you would cover a girl predator. there’s so many female teachers are being arrested for harming young boys especially
i’m assuming because coverage for female predators is scarce, and to catch a predator doesn’t use a method of catching predators that women usually fall victim to
"Girl" predator?? Shes a GROWN WOMAN. We don't call 23yr male predators "boy predators". We call them grown MEN.
The Hulu show, A Teacher, shows a good example of a women being the predator. She seeks out one of her students, gets caught, goes to jail but gets married and has kids of her own. She then seeks out her victim and try's to play the victim herself and he suffered big time dealing with being a male victim and people saying it's not big deal because he's a boy.
It's the only thing I've ever really seen that tells the side of what boys go through when they are victims of pedos
Agreed
Thts based off of a true story actually. The teacher actually married him after prison n had kids with him. They even did interviews together on TV. She passed away recently in like 2020 or something like tht (dont remember the exact yr) from cancer.
@@deziiluv I know which story you are talking about, that show though wasn't based on them. In the show, she goes to prison, doesn't get pregnant by him, has a hard time finding a job and relationships when she is released but does eventually get married and has kids. Only after she gets married, does she reach out to his victim to talk to him.
When they meet up, she makes it seem like he seduced her and she was the victim but he suffered greatly. He reminded her that he was a minor and he was the victim, not her.
It's a great show! The real story you are talking about is crazy and I feel so bad for him that he was stuck in that marriage. I think I read recently that he is in a new relationship, hopefully lots of therapy and well.
FINALLY A VIDEO ON THIS 🙌🙌🙌
I absolutely despise this topic as all humans should.
Growing up i had a friend who was preyed upon by one of these “people” and just because he was a boy and the predator was a woman every adult he told laughed it off and said congrats. We still talk to this day and he hasn’t been able to keep a relationship cause whenever he gets intimate he has a panic attack.
STOP THE DOUBLE STANDARDS!WOMEN CAN BE MONSTERS TOO!
Accused of "having sex" as opposed to "raping".
This is so stupid !! There should be no double standards whatsoever especially if it is a child-related situation !!
I have a colleague that had relations with his elementary school teacher. He is so proud of that moment. But it is very clear with how he views women and acts in social situations, that crap had a huge effect on how he developed as an adult. And it is not for the good. But he is oblivious to it unfortunately.
I really appreciate how well yall balance your platform to be entertaining and silly but to include a message and spread awareness. It is a real talent and you deserve all the success
I’m so glad you spoke about this. I have no words for this monster. My heart hurts for the boys she abused.their families must feel so hurt and betrayed.
As a woman
Fuck no
Hold people accountable
Wow, her parents are trying to help her out. They clearly don’t think anything she did was wrong either. That’s disgusting. Good job mom and dad.
When I was in Junior high in the late 90’s a girl in my math class repeatedly tried to attack and stab me with a compass saying things like “I want to see you bleed”. I was physically holding her off. She was considered attractive so I think most laughed and thought it was flirting and it wasn’t taken very seriously. I didn’t want her to get in trouble I just wanted it to stop. It may be handled differently now, but I do think that there are some residual feelings of boys/men not being able to be abused by girls/women. Granted I would assume the vast majority of abuse is male abusers and female victims, but it can and does still happen and I hope boys/men can feel like they can speak up and not be laughed off or told to man up about it.
Fact- there are just as many and probably more male SA victims than female. Many go unreported, and just like with domestic abuse the ones that are aren't taken very seriously. Because men can't be victimized by women, I guess.
A married with kids 20something woman teacher slept with my HS guy friend, and nothing happened. There wasn't a big commotion. It wasn't in the papers. I believe she did get let go, but quietly. There is a HUGE double standard. This was in the early 2000s. But I do remember as a kid with Mary Kay Letourneau it was a huge deal, I wonder if that's because she had a kid, or if it was just a different time back then with no social media.
Yo?!!!! Na why??? I can't comprehend these actions??? What would possess you to think this is okay??
My husband was about 14 when he was graped by an older girl. She was 16 or 17. She groomed him and ‘dated’ him. No one considered it an assault. It effed him up a lot. It’s not sexy it’s a crime.
That's so messed up and freaking creepy, like wth.
The double standards people have for female predators Is disgusting. A predator is a predator.
Don't forget the built in excuses as well
@@capo4270 built in excuses?
@@buttermepancake3613 I don't know. maybe because females are more caring on average than males are, and she took it the wrong way thinking she was just sending a video saying high, while shaking her trunk. again, I don't 100% know.
@@jesse.delorey78 this was not just some misunderstanding or innocent video sent. She RAPED an underage person
Most of the double standards are coming from men not other woman.
People need to talk more about female predators they are just as bad as male and it’s crazy how people saying that it’s ok for a teen boy to date an ADULT WOMEN!!
YES! Mary Kay Letourneau is a prime example of a woman who claimed it was different just because she was a woman grooming and abusing a male minor
Grown men act like it's okay. Most women view female predators exactly the same as male.
How sick
Still my favorite thing every year to watch one of your videos on my birthday! :D Its like a tradition now lol
Thank you guys for saying something I hate this double standard
The fact that the parents tried to cover for the teacher should land them in jail or at least prompt an investigation before getting their kids back
The problem lies in how people view predators when you think of a child predator you never think of women you think of men and the TCAP show. You never think about how much harder it is for a kid especially boys to convince people they were molested I’ve seen headlines like “Nanny who r*ped 11 year-old boy and had his baby is jailed for 20 years” these are the people who are supposed to be protecting the kids. I don’t remember the exact quote in the article but the mom even says something like “ we don’t think about females being predators”.
I am a victim of childhood SA, I was 8 years old when an adult man (19) did what he did to me. I grew up knowing what happened to me was wrong and sick. Then I worked with a man who confessed to me that when he was 12 his 22 year old babysitter had relations with him. He swore up and down he wanted it and it wasn't abuse. It took forever to get through to him. Its so different for boys, especially preteen and teen. They get told its cool and its normal and respected for hooking up with an older woman. Its heartbreaking.
I thought 19 years old is a child too because the brain aren't fully developed until 25
@@MinecraftDezhusmam A nineteen year Olds brain is still more developed than an 8 year old. It's still sexual assault bro
Thats not how that works. A 19 year old is certainly developed enough to understand that raping a 8 year old child is wrong.
It sounds like you are trying to make excuses for him. Rather then seeing the real picture which is that its objectivly wrong. @@MinecraftDezhusmam
@@MinecraftDezhusmamwhat kind of dumba$s logic is this? Yes he might have been young, but he was wayyy more mature than his victim. Bro was 19. Thats old enough to know its wrong and fucked up. He's a p3dophile.
I believe minors can be p3dophiles too. If some 15 year old teen r@pes a 10 year old kid, then that teen would be a p3do.
Isnt filming in any public bathroom illegal too?
Thank you for speaking out against this ridiculous double standard! It is disgusting for any adult, regardless of their gender, or their level of attractiveness, to have any sort of sexual relationship with these CHILDREN. Anyone who preys on teenagers is a PREDATOR and needs to be stopped! This woman groomed and molested children, and should be held accountable for her depraved actions.
I was 15 when an older woman sa'd me in front of at least 200 people at a sport stadium. Everyone who saw clapped and cheered as it happened.
I remember trying to tell a friend what happened and they just said that sounds cool.
I didn't think too much of it after that but I did end up going through a dark time a few years later, and that experience ate away at me.
So be sure to take it seriously if a friend opens up to you about it
That's AWFUL
Remember Justin Bieber was practically a s saulted on stage in front of the world as a teen & everyone cheered
@capo4270 No idea what he has been through but I feel for him, especially since we keep learning about all the shady stuff happening in Hollywood and record companies.
Hopefully him and everyone else who has been through something similar can make peace with it.
@@justjay2477 thats such an awful situation you were put in.
me and my friend are nearly 24, but my friend something happened 10 years ago with a family member and he never spoke about it to anyone. Ironically thats how long I new him was roughly 10 years and we only connected back in the COD BO3 days. he ended up being my closest friend, and when he broke the news to me only months ago, I was actually speechless. like, he never sounded they way he did than that day, and the whole time I never knew.
and the signs were there, I just figured weed and alcohol at a young age are a lot more difficult to pace yourself with if you grew up on it. and that was it. you have to know who you can trust to tell these stories too, and it won't always be your family you can trust. but only if have that trusted person to back you before speaking to more people.
that was for you but I might just make this its own comment.
The whole situation just... Makes my skin crawl.
I don't care what you are or claim to be, just LEAVE KIDS ALONE!
This kind of male child will grow up to have some kind of sexual deviance
Or perhaps they go asexual because they grow to feel violated
This women is disgusting
Bro idec if the child thought it was ok the adult should know it wasn’t