TØP: FOREST MEANING IS SO DEEP!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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What do you guys think "Forest" by Twenty One Pilots is about? In this video, I explain the meaning of these lyrics and help you to understand them even better!
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blurryface links in with this - squinting your eyes makes things blurry -not what you are supposed to see, blurryface set his treehouse in fire, - bothered by the same name (“blurryface”)
@@notmyonlyfriend gøner more like cømer
i mean this unironically: do coconut cocunut sharks in the water.
so deep
Auram's Production Value you speak lies
Auram's Production Value so deep
I actually have no idea what it means. Could make a special project.
I'm so surprised at how many upvotes this has. Hopefully on a future video.
hey clique scrolling through the comments
Coral Weston sup
Hi, I'm one year late, but... Better Late than nevER
Herro
Coral Weston hey🙌
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"Does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name?" I think the "someone else" is himself. Who he has become over time is so different from who he used to be as a child that he seems like a different person now. It bothers him because it's disorienting. This interpretation fits in with the rest of the song.
agree.. always wen I hear it I think of another Tyler setting next to hem like a Schizo character
Wow I never thought of that! I've
always interpreted it like a fear of actually never being unique in this world, that he is scared of just being "another person" and that it's uncomfortable.
It was me! Thank you. Haha. Maybe next week we could hear the explanation to TB Saga? 😂
Haha! Nice suggestion. Thanks for joining me on Patreon!
FAST FOOD GREASY TACO I LOVE!!!
PizzaIsLif3 YT FOOD LIKE THIS COULD ONLY COME FROM ABOVE!!!
lt NACHO BELL GRANDE, CHEESY GORDITA!!
I LIKE YOUR NACHOS LIKE DIARRHEA
Ruby and Fake You Out?
!!!
Two songs at once? Crazy stuff.
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p hEY WHATS UP BUDDY
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p
I SEE U *E V E R Y W H E R E*
Fake you out
Oh come on my dude, we all know the meaning,
Tyler likes ice cream.
First time i listen to the song i thought the same thing
What the f are y’all talking about?
@@lasttroll2513 idk
@@lasttroll2513 "I scream, you scream
We all scream 'cause we're terrified"
Hi!
ok, so I think that the forest is not actually a forest (?), what I mean is that the forest for me is a place in his mind, a place in the mind of all the people that he's talking about, like a safe place where there's no problems or stress, where he doesn't really need to be concerned about anything. When he sings about being afraid of "what's around the corner", I thinks he's talking about real life, the life of an adult that is responsable of the things he do, he doesn't want to be there so he goes to the fores, the safe place, where he's just happily dancing and singing without any concern. In the verses he is trying to express what is going on inside his head and he wants it to stop.
I think the bridge is the most important part. When he "squint his eyes" he finds himself in the real life and realise that he had already ruined everything, and he is RESPONSABLE for that ("my treehouse is on fire and for some reason I smell gas on my hands"), he also compares himself with a kid, a kid that should be happy insted of concerned about this things.
That's it, I think i didn't forgot anything
(Sorry if anything is wrongly formulated, I speak spanish, I'm learning english)
I think the fact that he did also call a video on their youtube channel, where he was singing forest, "Forrest" (=for rest) supports your theory
Ruby!!! I won't give up!!! :D
I vote for "Ruby" too!
The Pop Song Professor Also i like to think that forest is about becoming a community in a world wich is obsessed with individuality. ("does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name") I think everyone is afraid of not being "special" enough and it can be really frustrating sometimes. It's kind of like an anthem i think :)
Bekaheartsyou yes yes yes yes yes
Bekaheartsyou yes!!!
Ruby is about a little girl from Tyler's church who had Down syndrome
"the rain" Tyler says.
Josh nods, slowly
"it's like..." Tyler pauses, searching for the word.
"crisper," Josh says.
exactly Tyler says, nodding.
"almost like..." Josh frowns "red? maybe?"
"mostly," Tyler says. "with a hint of orange"
"orange, right." Josh points at Tyler. "that's right. I keep forgetting that one"
"a lot of things are orange, though," Tyler says frowning.
"Not where I'm from" Josh says darkly. "everything's just blue-black there".....
we're broken people Y U DO DIS????
Stop
T-E-R-E-F-I-E-D
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Emelie Ruby shut the fuck up.
Glowing eyes
jolaine2312 yes plssssss
There is a "Glowing Eyes" podcast available for patrons on my Patreon if you can't wait!
Thanks for watching, everyone! Let me know what you think next week's TOP song should be. :)
Air Catcher please!
Thanks for the video. :)
The Pop Song Professor thx for the vid! You've GOT to do Ruby sometime! Please!!!!!
The Pop Song Professor i would lpve for you to do glowing eyes or air catcher please!!!
The Pop Song Professor did you see my comment? I'd love to hear if you had any thoughts on my theory :)
I would also like to know the meaning of Glowing Eyes.
If you get impatient, I did a podcast about it on my Patreon! $2 gets you Glowing Eyes and more to come! But I'm sure it'll happen here at some point too. :)
No worries. :) It'll eventually be on this channel. :)
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p yEy it's my fave
S ø m e ø n e E l s e ' s S l e e p I thought everyone knew the meaning of ruby
Ruby. Clear. Drown. Taken by sleep. HeavyDirtySoul. Trapdoor. Migraine. PLEASE DO AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE!!👍🏻😬
I think Ruby is winning.
YESSSS!! Oh... I forgot one, Glowing Eyes. Is that on the up vote/ future vid list?
It definitely is. But we decide them each week in the comments on the most recent vid. But Glowing Eyes is available on my Patreon. :)
The Pop Song Professor I would support your patron but I am literally just going into 7 grade lol
okay don't quote me on this but this kind of sounds like when in the bible the church was in the room and they started speaking tounges and everyone was thinking the same thing but speaking different languages, but they were not really speaking an actual languages which in the song refers to it as "singing songs that nobody wrote and then they began to be consumed by the fire which did not burn them and they began to worship referring to "hands held higher"
Be concerned or glowing eyes
I just did a BTS podcast about Glowing Eyes on my Patreon. If you join, you can get it!
Those r my 2 favorite tøp songs
Air Catcher next!
Yess!!!
I think that the I scream you scream part represents his childhood when kids would usually say ice cream, but he’s almost and adult so he is terrified for what will happen next, or around the corner.
the pantaloon
General Stievous what song is that? it's not twenty one pilots
Zaribae yes it is
ZariBae yes it is it's on self titled
Aloosha Alselami I've gone through all the songs and it ain't there
it is the third song from their self-titled album
please do clear sometime :)
YESS
clear is deeeeep
JOSH DUN my favourite ❤️️
but the meaning of clear is... clear :D
you put my interpretation into words. also, DO FRIGGIN AIR CATCHER OR SO HELP ME I WILL KICK A GOAT
!
That Singer Elias plz don't kick a goat
dont let the goat be scotch
Please have mercy on the goat!
The goat will be spared if air catcher shows up. Hehehe /is diabolical/
the run an go please!
Josh isn't real, remember?
kabøøm studiøs ndksnsbdssjssins
T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
NO
Ruby!!!!!!!
its about someone in his church that has down sindrum (i relize that this comment is like a year)
Yesss that pfp
Please do Trapdoor next!
DarkEchoes yes!!
i feel T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
no. just no.
I wAS HOPING NOT TO FIND ANY REFERENCES
:(
Did you just
*crys*
fOreSt FiC
do clear
A really good one. And the alarm on my phone.
thanks :)
0 dislikes on video WOW!!!
the one dislike is tyler's treehouse (sorry if i stole someone's comment i haven't went through the comments yet)
Tyler, Josh isn't real, remember?
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nnOoOOooOooO StOoOooOOppPppPPppPp
HëýBûđdýYøůÏñŁøňđøñ? WhO GaVe YoU tHe RiTe?
HëýBûđdýYøůÏñŁøňđøñ? OH FUCK I will cry :'(
WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT
NO TIME TO CRY
Pls explain the music video and lyrics of the song girls/girls/boys by Panic! At The Disco its a song of them 2 years ago pls pls do it! {btw new subscriber!} :)
Implicit Demand For Proof would be great ;)
NSPLG i love that song soooo much
Love that one!
NSPLG if you listen to the lyrics he talking about God
the bible talks about tongues of fire and and languages nobody knows but everybody understands and things of such that tyler relates to in the song. i believe tyler is talking about being terrified of life just like the rest of us but we have to think of something better to move on. I think his way of thinking of something better is thinking of how in the end he gets to go to heaven with the rest of the believers. I think the forest represents heaven. he talks about hands held higher and I think this refers to praising God. there is a lot of direct terminology in forest that would lead me to believe he is quoting from the Bible. anyway that's my thoughts on it. I loved this video by the way ;)
Clear
What if there's like a timeline, or a story from RAB to Vessel? For exampleMaybe Forest takes place before Trees,Forest is about people gathering and trying to help each other with their struggles Maybe it's somewhat like a concert but in a forest, but not exactly a professional one I guess.Then, Trees comes next, possibly much later,Maybe someone who was at the gathering/concert comes back to where Forest was sung, in some sort of empty, forested area. The person is struggling and wants to commit suicide, but then they're reminded of the concert, so they go back to the forest. While they're walking, they start to think back to what happened, and almost recreate the moment. They imagine themselves back there ("I can feel your breath"), then they realize that they can't recreate the moment and have deeper thoughts ("I can feel my death"). Next, "I want to know you, I want to see, I want to say 'hello'". This maybe means they wish they could go back but they can't. I don't know it's just an idea.
everything's blue-black
No
ITS TIME TO STOP 😭
Scuse me could you please leave
I really liked hearing your perspective on the song, so I'll have to think on it further to figure out what I really think. But this is what I had thought before, just as a random idea, I guess.
Personally I had always heard this song and thought of it as a sort of contrast between the struggles of this world, compared to the joys of heaven. I hear the pre-chorus and think of people being terrified as they consider the future, what lies ahead maybe even after death.
Then the chorus is a celebration, being in heaven in the presence of God and celebrating with a crowd of people who share your faith and your joy.
The verses I thought were just about life and struggling with living now, but holding onto the hope of something better.
And then the bridge I thought was the same kind of thing. Especially when he says 'This is not what you're supposed to see...I am supposed to be king of a kingdom..." I think of living now, but remembering that there is more meant for us than just this life.
There's more to it than just that, but that's just a quick summary of what I've always thought Forest was about. I'm not saying that I'm right, and I was really fascinated by the points you brought up (I'll have to listen to the song more, I guess). But I'd love to hear what you think about this, and maybe why you think it's more clearly about something different (what you discussed in the video).
Anyway, sorry for the long comment. Thanks for making this video, though! It was really cool :)
I like your thoughts on this. I had a similar line of thought. I always thought the chorus sounded like a worship service, singing hymns to God. And that that is our way of getting away from the worries of the world for a bit and thinking of something better. From what I know about the church Tyler went to I think they are probably a raise your hands in the air while singing kind of place :P We don't at my church but I have been to ones that do. And the being on fire would be being on fire for God, that passion for Him.
I love this song and I love the sense of community the chorus conveys. We are not in this alone, let's all go sing about it together.
Jaylen Connors i also thought the chorus was about people worshipping 'hands held higher ' and ' we'll be on fire as in like passion for Christ.
Thanks for the thoughts, Jaylen. I think there's definitely an intended contrast there. I wonder if the good side of the contrast is Heaven or my theory, but I think there's something to be said for both sides. At the very least, if my theory is right, that gathering is good because it's a small picture of what Heaven will be like. It's powerful because it's Heaven-like.
Jaylen Connors I think ty is reaching out to people to show them a place where we can find happiness (chorus) and in the bridge I think he means he looks at something and then thinks he is shaping it into something it isn't and then he wants to make himself look at things like he is in control but he can't because his childhood imagination is shaped into his current imagination
I really like your channel, do you think you could try identifying what "Oh Miss Believer is about?
I really like this type of videos but am I the only one that like to listen to a song and take it to his own place? like When I listen to "holding on to you" I dont think about holding on to god, I think about holding on to tøp and to this music and to life because this is what I need to hold on to, to life and not to let go or give up... And I really like that every different person that listen to a song can hear a different meaning...
o ms believer PLEASE
"Someone else has your name" - I think that "someone else" is yourself - at a different stage of your life. You have the same name but find that you are a 'different person' than you were before and it is disorienting that you can chage so much that you seem to be a different person and disconnected from who you were before. That interpretation is related to a lot of the rest of the song too.
We don't believe what's on tv pleaseee!!
Nagham Baŗçałonistå it's about his concern that if he did not become what he has, would his friends still be supporting him and also it refers to his love (Jenna) and how he doesn't care what situations they get in, he will still make it work
Quatro good explanation and I think this song has a lot of meanings which can all be true but I think it's about songs nowadays that are all sound the same and that's why we don't believe them, and Tyler tries with his music to create songs more realistic and thoughtful "if you stick around i'll sing you pretty sound"
I need to know what he thinks it's about
Nagham Baŗçałonistå he did it
WDBWOTBIWWWTSAWWWWKWCBWHALTKODINTKTWIFYSBHCIYSAISYPSAWMMSYHIDCWIYHIJWKWOYMIUTSIWTDBIOBBOYIMTT
A.K.A the first letter in the lyrics for W.D.B.W.O.T. lol
slapensee2 Cool! xd
the 13 dislikes are people who got to excited and clicked the wrong button
lol probably!
My opinion:
I think the link between the two ideas going on in the song is that as fans start really listening to their songs they realize that they have grown up. That the reason they are feeling the way that they are is that they are no longer a kid. You also simultaneously allow childhood to be destroyed cause there is a new lack of ignorance . You can no longer ignore the fact that you are growing up because their music has woken you up from that blissful oblivian. By opening yourself up to maturity you have brurned down your tree house. And we are all doing this together. Wether it is because of twenty one pilots, or work or the internet certain things can take you away and force you to destroy your child hood. With this being said, there is no shade being thrown at TOP because they allow you to know what is happened when you loose childhood and make you aware of how you are growing up, and they allow you to say goodbye and to mourn your loss. Other things that pull you away don't allow you to do so. They only pull you out of child hood they don't wake you up. This group of people Tyler is talking about in the song is the group of the people who have been woken up. They all sing the same song mourning the loss of their child self. Tyler feels bad because his hands are covered in gas because not only did he burn down his treehouse he supplied gasoline for everyone else who listened to him. He didn't plan to tell them what he had done and how to do it themselves.
If you made it to the end of this very long paragraph thank you very much. And stay alive |-/
I think the song is a contrast between finding hope on earth and finding hope in heaven. In the original video for Forest, the title is spelled "Forrest" or For Rest. The singing songs nobody wrote points to a future hope for Christians, singing a "New Song" like it says in Revelation where our ultimate rest will be after this life is over. The new song will be the song nobody wrote, because it's from God or angels, not of human origin.
He is struggling with his emotions and thoughts, lamenting the death of his childhood hopes and dreams for his life and his poisoned thoughts. He realizes his ultimate hope is in heaven, not in the things he adores on earth, which do not bring ultimate hope, and that he has damaged himself by what he's done. Instead of being terrified of the future, we can look to our ultimate hope of heaven.
We'll be on fire with our hands raised, singing and worshiping God. We will be on fire from the Spirit of God and being truly alive.
Do blasphemy!!
Coconut Coconut Sharks on the Water
The pantalooon please
Ruby please!!!!!!!! |-/
twentyughpilots |-/
do the TB Saga xD
another really great video! for some odd reason, Everytime the lyrics get way darker and deeper, they seem to resonate and cause emotions and thoughts to pop up in my head the most.
That's the power of TOP!
plz make a vid abowt massege man its my favoret .
You should really do air catcher next!!!
Tyler, Josh isn't real
plEASE STOP
NO
Fake You Out next please??
Guns for hands
BE CONCERNED OR GONER THANK YOU :):):)
RUBY
trapdoor plzzzzzz
The first time I heard this song I immediately loved it! I find the melody very pretty and the bridge is just incredible! Now that you have explained it I love it even more, thank you ^^
(Please, Ruby !!!!)
Time To Say Goodbye!!!!!!!!!! |-/
To all the glowing eyes
I love this song so much. To me, it's all about how we are trapped in this forest and the "we" referred to in the chorus are the inmates, the rest of the world who are trapped with them and are lastly ignorant though all of them feel like something is wrong, but refuse to talk about it, and that's the chorus where they're singing songs that everyone knows but nobody wrote. The bridge is my favourite part since it zooms in a bit on this one person who seems to be taken over by the lack of freedom and is going crazy over it, so much that their trying to burn down the past and what was supposed to be, but still there's a storm coming and no one is safe. Finally, the part about someone else sharing your name just emphasises how there can be no complete individuality since society has long taken that away from us. In total, it's just truly beautiful.
clear
The chorus is a beautiful picture of heaven. The Forest is heaven (obviously). Especially the "hands held higher, we'll be on fire" part. That is something that is very common thought in the Christian community about heaven. "Singing songs that nobody wrote" is also a great picture of heaven. Heaven is a place where (as boring as it sounds for us on Earth) we all sing praises and worship God for eternity, singing songs that no one wrote.
On Vessel and RAB I think Tyler relates his own personal struggles to biblical narratives. In Forest he seems to be telling the story of Adam and Eve, especially because: "I took some food for thought, It might be poisoned." The Forest then would represent the Garden of Eden, and the song of suffering that everyone sings together is the experience of sin. I think this theory is backed up by the rap which is like Adam talking to God. "I'm supposed to be king of a kingdom swinging on a swing," which I take to mean that he's meant to be innocent and childlike to rule the garden. But he goes on to say "my treehouse is on fire and for some reason I smell gas on my hands" meaning he's burned his place with God through sin. Trees in their music tend to represent God or his presence, so it makes sense that Eden, which was full with God's presence, would be represented by a forest full of trees. I think this song is meant to convey guilt Tyler feels for committing sin, basically saying that he feels just as responsible as Adam for bringing sin into the world. I also think of Goner and Trees in this context, Goner being Adam speaking and Trees being the voice of God searching for Adam in the garden.
Ruby
RUBY
I know this isn't really TØP, but I'd really like to see a video about Drown
I think the forest is “outside” in guns for hands. “well breathe together to the beat” would be the song that the chorus is coming from “well all join hands” “hands held higher” also shows this.
Did anyone notice how when he says "we sing a chorus" he could be talking about Trees, as Trees is literally one verse, or chorus, over and over?
clique comment so we can be friends
Kitchen Sink Please!!
I really love your theory but for the line “does it bother anyone else that someone else has your name”i feel like he is referring to himself. Like the “someone else” would be the person who he doesn’t want to be, when the unwanted thoughts take over.
Clear please.
do migraine please!!
Ruby
I always thought of it as an anxiety/depersonalization/derealization song since they are things I have been recently dealing with
This is so similar to Dream from Imagine Dragons o.o
I also love songs like forest (similar to kitchen sink), it's like up to you to decide what it means to you. It also to me is just a song that brings everyone together, one of those songs (life experiences) that everyone can relate to. The forest is different for everyone, depending on who you are, the forest could be suicide, bullying, death, etc. and everyone in your "forest" gets what your going through. IDK JUST MY OPINION
Agree. It’s like that with a lot of Tøp songs. Especially with the more religious songs, I’m not religious but I still get my own meaning from songs such as the judge.
The rap verse is SOOOOOOO good and deep.
the forest fic
im crying now
The chorus reminds me of a church, everyone knows hymns. And it can be seen as a community of people trying to find comfort or something better. Even if it is not god, they find like minded individuals together? However you can also go to church alone and think in peace.
I don't know how much sense that made
the rain is.....
crisper
Forrest fic
Pantaloon!!!!!!!
T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
T-E-R-R-I-F-I-E-D
Thank you for looking at this song, it's my favourite by TOP
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plz.
this is my favorite song, thank you!
You're welcome!
Okay this isn't a TØP song, but I want to hear your perspective on the song Speeding Cars by Walking On Cars
when u get flashbacks to the forest fic 😢
STOP
“c R i S p E r”
this is personally one of my favorite songs by twentyonepilots. it’s weird... it doesn’t really makes sense, yet it makes perfect sense. i feel like i can relate to it.
please do glowing eyes! like if you agree!!!!
I think I did already.
The Pop Song Professor oh oops sorry!!! but thank you for answering :D edit: i looked it up and found it, thank you!
Sweet!!
Please explain the meaning behind Implict Demand For Proof BY Twenty Øne Piløts
Forest is my FAVORITE song!!!! I'm so excited :D
Wow... I actually agreed entirely man. You deserve the 306/0 like/dislike ratio. :P
I'll tell ya it's pretty strange that he sings about alot of similarities of a forest here in the United states in California where they chant sing and do crazy stuff. This place would be deep deep in the forest called Bohemian Grove. I'm sure there are alot of ppl who never thought of this.
Please explain the meaning behind trapdoor by Twenty Øne Piløts!
I think you could replace forest for any other Twenty One Pilots song for the title
Euan Mango What?
Michael Chan I'm saying that any Twenty One Pilots song is deep