Civil Service MUTINY! | "If They Don't Like It, Ship Out" | Isabel Oakeshott's FURY
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- Isabel Oakeshott and Kevin O'Sullivan discuss a legal challenges brought by the Civil Service Union against government policies, with Isabel expressing frustration over the union's political motivations and lack of neutrality.
Kevin questioned the union's credibility in light of their previous legal actions against the Tories. They also discussed the role of the civil service in scrutinizing and implementing government policies, with Kevin expressing frustration over their lack of cooperation and tendency to act as an 'upper chamber.'
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If they don't do their job, sack them
Sack them anyway, they havent been doing their job for years
@@garyhendrie4001 many of the staff in the H.O were born overseas. They sympathise with the boat migrants
That are doing their jobs. It's the government who aren't and these morons have n the media like O' Dullivan and Oakeshit.
@@vincentl.9469 you are right. But they are paid to carry out the work of the government not act as some kind of sensoring chamber. Like i said if they wont do the job they are paid for sack them until you get far enough down the tree to the group who will carry out the work they are paid to do.
@@garyhendrie4001 it wont be much better under Labour, if as likely, they get in power. I'll tell you something else. if this country was invaded by a foreign power many living here would side with the enemy...the price of 'diversity' hope it never happens ..
Absolutely!! If the Civil Service don’t do their job Rishi, do your job and sack them!!
Civil serpents
I think all those who've expressed any intent against the Rwanda policy should be fired now. They've shown partisan views already.
HEAR HEAR
Sack the lot, we pay their inflated wages
That includes all those who process passports, pensions, driving licences etc. Do you really want top sack all those. And who will pay for their social security. Ah yes raise taxes oin the frustrated OAPs who inhabit this page
Yes sack them and fill the position with real British patriotic people.. Not DEI hires..
Many thousands of civil servants on the minimum wage.
Problem is the judiciary; the bench, has been infected with the left wing cancer.
Total BS no public sector workers on min wage! And yes sack them all and employ people who can do the job and that have pride in our country!
Some very over paid, spoiled brats in the civil service. Serve civilly or get out of the job. Civil servants are not there to make policy. They are there to carry policy out. If they don't like it, resign!
😮 totally agree the system is broken from within!
The word within is spot on my friend.
In the real world, if you don’t do your job you get sacked!!!!!!!!!
Unless you're a tory money grabbing that ffs
The civil service, a prime example of the tail wagging the dog. Unelected and unaccountable.
The civil service also helped the post office send innocent sub post masters to prison !
They were implementing policy, not making policy.
@@johnmoore9862But they DON'T implement policies when it doesn't suit them, do they?
Yes. By failing to see a crime on purpose. Whereas now they are adjudging legitimate acts of illegal immigrant removals as a crime. They do as they please. And their Union masters are utterly immoral.
The civil service or government
the civil service, whitehall and all of them should either be sacked or resign if they don't like what they have to do. If you told them that sacked or resigned they would then forfeit their gold plated pension you would see a different outlook from them.
Isabel a voice of reason.....we need more like her.
Isabel showed complete ignorance about how the CS operates and the purpose of the legal action.
If these so called CIVIL servants dont like carrying out the will of our democratically elected government, they can seek employment elsewhere that fits with there so called ethics. The people elected the government not the civil servants.
They can go up against the wall for being traitors.
Tower Bridge needs some new decorations.
Whilst I don’t disagree with you the idea that Rishi Sunak was democratically elected is laughable
Why should the British public allow each immigrant being sent to Rwanda a ´gift’ of 3,000… when half the country is homeless and/or starving…?
Ironic that most of these home office staff seem to be working from home!
They must be sacked
Blair and Brown have a lot to answer for. These antics were encouraged by the Labour agenda and expect it to continue under Starmer and Co.
If they think the civil service is bad, they should look at local government where it's just as bad but without the large budgets to waste on failed projects
Pritti Patel told useless staff in the same way as any boss is allowed to discipline useless and bad staff!
Priti Patel was found to have bullied civil service staff following an independent investigation.
It’s not just the civil service that just does what it wants and ignores government directions - teachers do too.
Nhs sabotaged itself
I don’t think they are the people in question here. I think it’s probably Whitehall and government .
They are breaking their contract just let them go we need people who have the interest of this country and it’s people to work for us
No they are not!!
Every civil servant should be sacked, unelected people who are dictators
So if every civil servant were sacked the government would not operate.
Telling someone to do there job is not bulling !
Their actions are treasonous
But not the government
Having worked for the Home Office I can tell you that a Civil Service job is a bloody cushy job: and not at all demanding. It would be extremely easy to replace delinquent civil servants.
Demands placed and expected of individuals varies from department to department.
Sack them, there are plenty of people who would be willing and able to do these jobs. The civil service is full of social misfits and people who frankly would not be able to hold down a job outside this organisation. Many of them have now managed to claim permanent home worker status which means that they never have to attend an actual office. Nice work if you can get it.
Yeah it's the bus driver's and nurses who are 2 blame ffs
Of I didn’t do my job correctly I would be sacked . Why ain’t they ?
Paid to do a job. Thought they had to be impartial. Pay them off and they’ll lose they’re pensions too
Labour activists .I hope all the labour voters are proud of them selves that the minority of workers are running the country
Torys been running or ruining the country for 13 years u pleb
Wow so are u proud of yourself????
Said it before and will say it again, the Government want them here.
You are so right 🤓
100% It's smoke and mirrors.
That's why the invaders act so entitled.
The Government has been telling them 'come over' and then they find out they are not wanted.
Under downplayed contract agreement with the U.N.
The civil service is indicative of the state of this country. Our future, culture, history, values are being eroded day by day. Without real change, this country is lost. 🏴🇬🇧
The civil service work for the UK if not get another job
Nobody else would employ the bone idol gobby trouble making lefties - except the BBC.
If the civil servants cant do their job they need to be sacked and lose their pension . Do they actualy do any work and they are not paid to be political they are glorified office clerks.
Sounds to me like they actually need a bit of 'bullying'. If they wont do their jobs, then sack them. There are plenty of people who are capable of replacing them.
An angry faced union Leader is so miserable he cannot show any joy of life
Scottish was he?
Maybe because they care about the status of the country while the government r treating tax payers money as there own personal piggy bank
Who is driving this train?
the middle east
Ask the Bilderberg group and Soros
Think we're going to need a bigger boat it's not a tidal wave it's a tsunami coming 😨😨😨
All of the above plus the U.N.
if i refused to do my job i would get disciplined
The Civil Service terms and conditions are at the base of all their current disruption! Jobs for life, and a guaranteed pension better than most, with virtually no ability to be sacked, other than a serious assault on a senior official! Incompetence was promoted and not fired, so we have ended up with a Civil Service full of high ranking incompetents with little to no clue how to run the service, but are expert at passing the buck! They are now far too big and in desperate need of being trimmed to the bone so they can be properly assessed by an independent business efficiency consultants, so all the incompetents can be removed along with the dead wood of which there happens to be a vast amount!
The country is run by the Civil Service, so why VOTE?
The Civil service behaving illegally, this is atrocious they are behaving as if they are a law unto themselves.
The CS isn't behaving illegally.
@@kevinburdekin3632 Are they not there do do a job and follow government directives rather then doing what they want because of there own political leanings, so in short they are not following directives but breaking them, as a government department is this not wrong, and if wrong is this legal? They should be impartial and just do there job according to the dictates.
They are following U.N. agreements instead of Sovereign UK demands by the British people .
Civil Servants, Government, NHS, Police, BBC, Local Councils,Border Force, TFL, not even ONE of these remotely " fit for purpose " What an absolute disgrace!
Disgrace/mutiny/U.N.contract , not talked about on the BBC , or many other places , yet .
Sunak is toast. 7 in 10 Voters stated home & thus rejected both Labour & Sunak as both are identical. Big winners are ReformUK, who surpassed their national polls of 13% (& got 17% in by-election).
Outrageous who’s running the country government or the civil servants
Both the government and the civil service run the country in compliance of their roles, responsibilities and legal obligations.
U.N.
Yep, they're not even civil!! 🤬🏴🇬🇧
There's plenty of capable people looking for work, that would do the job in good faith.
“Civil service grows again as diversity indicators hit record highs
Latest civil service statistics see big increase in proportion of officials with a declared disability, alongside upticks in other diversity metrics”
Civil Service World.
You can’t do the job but you tick a box. You’re in 👍
The only way in now is by dinghy to hotels then disappear , then into diversity employment within approved U.N. contract.
Cummings and Boris pointed this out right at the beginning of Boris’s premiership
If they do not want to come to their offices to work insist they do five days a week, then mutiny , they will resign… Takes them out of their jobs without us paying redundancy and gives us a chance to employ them new set of civil servants!
So where were the civil service when the European courts of human rights said that British prisoners were allowed to vote? They just ignored it?
Sack all the civil service. Time to change our whole political system 😡
Clearly its been passed, do your job or find another job ? Anyway sack them, then they can worry about something else?
If only we had a conservative government with an 80 plus majority........ Oh we did have!
You could sack over half of them and still be over staffed, well paid Trouser presser's
They can quit
I agree, they should just follow instructions. Protest has now become fashionable is creeping into many areas of life but if you can’t take instruction, and carry it out, then don’t be a servant of any kind.
If a baby needs feeding, a mother has to get up and feed the baby, - she can’t send it back for amendment or stage a protest or demand further investigation into why her child is hungry - because she doesn’t agree with hunger in the world and what about other hungry babies? She feeds her baby. That’s serving. We all serve in some capacity. It’s a part of daily life.
The Civil servants should be totally neutral and have no affiliations or political leanings.
They must act in the best interests of the country.
We must have capability over Diversity, equality and inclusion and select the best of the best.
If it happens that they are 100% black or white doesn't matter as much as being the most competent and capable person with great integrity!
It would prevent scenes such as a person found locked in a bag. I don't know how that happened. But it should not have happened!
There is no democracy in the UK while the civil servants refuse to follow the instructions of our elected Government. This MUST change. 🏴
If you buy a washing machine and it does not work ,what do you do , is send it back.
"Get rid of Civil Servants"........"The Home Office is not resourced properly"........which is it?
In Canada the civil service has been told they now have to be in the office three days a week instead of working from home. The outcry is unbelievable. The idea the you might actually be required to go to an office and work seems to have now morphed into a punishment.
well said Isabel Oakshott . . .wokey leftys. . . ship out!!!
Sack the civil service
No, Minister. It'd make a good sitcom.
In Canada it's the same attitude, the same behaviour: they refuse to come to work, "work" 3-4 days from home and the backlogs go up to 6 -12 months (applications for passports, pensions, all kind of benefits, etc). They make mistakes we, the public pay for, never apologise, are never reprimanded or fined for them. Never fired. They are entrenched for life: good wages, security, lots of holidays + benefits,no stress.They are SELF-serving.
The DWP is carrying their water. I live overseas and have been fighting for my pension over the last four years. Various emails (they cannot take certain actions by email they say, snail mail takes a month), some unanswered and always late delivery - only six months behind now!
But they do pay eu citizens who also receive pension from birth country .a pension is earned but they have SURREPTITIOUSLY CHANGED THE LAW TO CALL IT A BENEFIT .IT IS WRONG YOU DONT RECEIVE JUST BECAUSE YOU RETIRE ELSEWHERE
Sack the lot Or if you dont like your job leave
When your a civil servant you sign a declaration to serve the Crown and the state regardless of your own beliefs now if you don't fulfil your obligations you should be dismissed immediately
It takes them years to do things that general workers do daily.
Yes, so the clue here is in the name Civil SERVANT....Do what you are told or you are sacked from the top down....
In long run , democracy is creating lunacy .
Finally the elephant in the room is being spoken about
I know many civil servants and for those two to call them lazy and they don't go to work is pathetic,these two bird brains couldn't get a proper job if they Tried, l wouldn't call slagging of other people as a job.
The backlog in the Civil Service says otherwise.
I know civil servants who get in work benefits, this channel is outrageous noone can force people to break the law.
Politicians take the blame but the reality is that many of the UK's problems rests with civil servants and council employees who do not work hard enough and are as left as Lenin. The Government needs to jump on this very hard and very fast through the courts if needed. labour will have exactly the same problem assuming they assume power later this year - except it will be worse because the unionised civil servants and council staff will all have their sticky paws out for more cash for less work. The 4 day a week for the same pay as happened in South Cambs anyone?
The FDA isn’t the main union and don’t represent the three lowest pay grades. The majority of the woke / anti-British element of the civil service is senior civil servants often earning £90,000+ dependent on grade / department. The operational civil servants where the rubber hits the road have a similar spread of views as the rest of the population and typically work very hard for modest pay. The lowest two pay bands just had a pay rise purely because the minimum wage increased in April.
The Civil Service is there to do a job, not create them. The vast majority of us accept that.
Oh, has someone noticed that Blair vastly increased the size of the civil Service and those newcomers were anything but impartial? The Tories didn't, or didn't have, the spine or the sense to sack them all. If you wonder why the police are worse than useless, well the guy from the Home office who provides the guidelines for the police is a DEI champion for the civil service.
They wouldn’t survive in the private sector
Well if the home office employees don't agree with parliamentary decision? SACK THEM THEY ARE EMPLOYEES? NOT MINISTERS?
There paid to carry out the tasks that parliamentary give them to act on? The civil service are not allowed to strike, military, police, fire services, doctors, ALL CIVIL SERVANTS ? ALL NOT ALLOWED TO GO ON STRIKE? So why hasnt the home secretary , laid down the law to them, and got a grip of their employees.
civil servants also cost people their lives by not removing dangerous migrants
The tail wagging the dog with civil servants being the tail.
Remember prison officers are civil servants who do a dangerous and vital job. So stop tarring all civil servant's with the same brush.
My husband Tommy is a retired Prison Officer, and he worked at HMP Parkhurst for a quarter of a century, before transferring to the north-east. He always says that he was a public servant rather that a civil servant.
We all know who are being talked about here, the paper pushers in London, who barely seem to do any real work these days.
Your just a failed copper
Irrelevant to this particular subject
@@schrodingerscat1863 a great many of government offices are like this now they are in my view in breach of their statatory duties and they should be fired .. .
It's time to save taxpayers money. Sack 50% of senior management and anyone earning over £100,000. Then allow a selection of taxpayers to evaluate the work being undertaken and sack anyone who is involved in woke, transgender any other non-government work after sacking 35% of all the lower ranks..
Far too easy to blame the lack of zeal and discipline of the executors while the executioners look away towards fictitious sunny uplands and leave the executors to wear the hood and carry the can. We all have a conscience, some of us use it to face up to... while others turn away from... their moral decisions.
The Civil Service more than doubled in Blair's first few years and is nearer 3x as many as 1997. Halving them would save the taxpayer £50bn and I suspect we would not see any change in service.
If Labour get in, the Civil Service will then decide that we will obey the Government.
Blme Tony Traitor Blair he changed them.
They are contractually bound to do as instructed. If they can’t follow through then they’ve broken their work arrangement and should be given their cards and told to jog off! There are plenty of young graduates who would love such a well paid cushy job!
Civil is shortened for civilian, they serve the PUBLIC and are funded by the PUBLIC, which makes the boss the PEOPLE! The government, is not the boss, the people are! How have we got to the point where no-one even knows these very basic things? The government make policies like any other business do, because they ARE a business! We the people do not have to be governed it is optional!
You know what type of people their putting into cival service jobs. Don't you.!
I agree with the majority here. We should be saying to these people, Sit down, do your damn job or get the hell out. Plenty folks happy to do your roll with more grace, kindness and professionalism 🤷FaFo You aren't special in the way you think you are, you're choice.
what happens what you fill the civil service with non british people and lefty activists
So you approve of forcing people to break the Law without their consent?
How would you feel if your employer demanded you break the Law and if you don't like it, ship out? That's what is happening here. Understand?
MP's may have immunity from prosecution but Civil Servants do not, and it is they who will do the work. This work (deporting 'immigrants' to Rwanda) could see them being charged by various international Laws such as the UN and the ECHR.
I would say that if a Civil Servant refused to carry out such deportations and they were fired, there would be a very strong case for Constructive Dismissal
Sacked...its not supposed to be political, whats the point if yer only gonna be woke
I shouldn't know this but I do; yesterday Sunak was paid £800,892 by Shell into 3 offshore accounts. Civil servants are trying to protect the UK at the time of a despicable right wing government.
"Protecting the UK" my arse!
They're just a bunch of commie lefties, and bone idol ones at that. The whole friggin' lot of them need booting out and replaced with staff who actually have an attachment and a bit of loyalty to this country.
Why isnt anyone doing anything about these shirkers?
One thing that has always been a problem is that no one knows how to implement any actions they dream up to sort out the issues being brought up!!!!
It involves knowledge , skills and experience……. Which as we’ve seen at the public accounts committee……. Is always used as an excuse when people are being held to account
It’s the same reason why employers don’t hire graduates anymore……. They hire those who under took apprenticeships. Not those that have an education that qualifies then to hold positions of power. It’s meaning less……. Just all words with no experience in actually implementing the decisions they make
You can see what we are heading for. You think it's bad now 🤔
He needs to get real he’s a disgrace
Bureaucracy only desires to grow bigger.
A Labour government would be so skilled at that!
There shouldnt be a left wing civil service in a right wing government 😮 its mad that the civil service is unionised.
Gordon Browne was a Bully with a bad temper and Peter Mandelason terrorised young white men 😮
And brexit was’nt a disaster at all …