One of my favorite times in Hardcore was a trio of mages, but we each could only use one school of magic. One mage could only use Frost spells, one mage Fire spells, and the other Arcane spells. The dynamic was amazing. Highly recommend trying it.
This is such a great idea. You see this content made all the time in Runescape and is insanely popular. You'd think more similar WoW content would be made.
@@RealLoki Challenge runs didnt even start until OSRS Ironman came out lol. Its only been like 2 years since content creators started doing content like "Swampletics"
I liked arcane missiles in vanilla wow. With the talent you had no spell pushback and melees can't get behind you in PvP, because you are always locked. It was useful as a finisher and can shoot through walls when you have line of sight at the beginning of channeling.
Also idk what meta mindrot led to people never using missiles, but I've been using it and arcane explosion as my main sources of damage and at LVL 30 I've never been outdamaged in a dungeon by anyone of similar level, especially not a mage. Arcane best spec unless you want that boring Blizzard farming. 10% hit from talents, extra "crits" from arcane subtlety, and free spells from that one other talent. At LVL 30 you can do a free instant PoM-flamestrike whenever free cast procs, and it's amazing. Also idk if it's my ping or private server spaghetti code, but I killed(yes, killed) people in duels with arcane missiles,, and it's funny every time
This is my first Jampanos video ive ever seen. Great content, great narration, with a tad bit of sarcasm and some good editing. Youve earned yourself a like and a subscribe friend. See you on the next video!
If you keep this series up, I will watch every second of it. Subscribed for this video alone. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you on the path to 60!
This challenge sounds really fun in all honesty, leveling as only Arcane should be the achievement. Once you're 60 you should have the achievement permanently and you should be allowed to raid/dungeon as any spec IMO. HC is a leveling challenge, griefing endgame content shouldn't be a thing.
I don't understand why more people don't start with LW/Skinning to get their first wand. It's subsantially easier imo to get leather than linen. Once you get around 70 light leather you can drop skinning to learn ench. Make embossed leather vests to d/e and then get your ench up. I had my first wand at lvl 5 just farming boar hides in elwynn. from there THEN you take tailoring and you farm to get the 70 ench for the greater wand.
in classic in 2019 my mage "Arcaneofc" had a lot of fun going 1-60 as arcane only, though i wasn't playing hardcode. I think between missles and explosion it still felt like an "S" tier leveling build compared to some other classes
Arcane missiles had exactly one use for me in Classic - using it on people trying to break LOS in PvP to finish them off, since it doesn't usually immediately stop casting.
I'm sure someone else has pointed this out but the mushroom for that Darkshore cave quest is in the lower levels of the cave, the spawn point just looks like it should be on the higher level lol Great video though!
I just lvled a mage in classic, i was fire until 54 at witch point i tried arcane frost. I decided to get the arcane missiles pushback talent for lvling purposes and found that using it on clearcasting procs was very good as it does a lot more damage than frostbolt.
Commenting before finishing the video but I've actually been leveling a melee warlock on HC, currently level 25 (about to be 26). If you have to melee in the early levels, you need to get a swing timer and walk backwards before your enemies attack you. Since mobs don't follow you immediately if you were standing still, you're essentially applying an "attack speed slow" to your opponents since they won't attack until they reach you. Doing it right, you can even get 2 swings before your opponent can even get 1. Should save you a ton of life. No point in being in melee range after you swung since you can't hit them again anyways.
I played on a private server with a guy hell bent on making arcane a thing. We all lost faith in him the day we saw him casting arcane missiles on Shazrah and not noticing that he was doing 0 damage.
Honestly, getting Enchanting early (level 5) should have been the priority. The wand you get even does Arcane damage, so a double win. Engineering deals fire damage, so... thematically...
As someone who levels arcane because it's fun - you NEVER skip arcane subtlety. Mobs have 0 resistance, and lowering it to -5 gives you vulnerability procs, which are basically extra crits that happen all the time
Hey, spell vulnerability was a thing in early vanilla but was removed for classic, so this no longer works :( This is why spell pen gear in general kinda sucks
@@jampanos oooh, damn, that sucks, didn't know that :( Guess I'm lucky my private server kept it. yeah, that makes the talent much worse but still good for lowering aggro in dungeons
New Hardcore Challenge: -I have to code the entire WoW classic from scratch and level wearing nothing but my starter gear while casting only my first rank Fireball World of Challenge Craft
i did this once on a troll, but it's similar for any race not really that hard at all, all you need is arcane missiles and a serious amount of patience, totally doable.
Arcane missiles is such an underrated spell for leveling. It's not supposed to just be spammed. You use it when you proc clear casting. Obviously if you're just using arcane spells you can't really weave it in, but that's the best use for AM. You melt things when you weave it in on a clear casting proc
@lelandwhitehead56 yeah.... I know... AM cost so much mana that you should wait until you get clear casting to get it for free. It does way more dps than frostbolt or fireball at low levels, it just cost a fuck ton of mana
I still think it's kind of hilarious how the start of WoW is so brainlessly easy that a mage, in cloth robes, no abilities, wholly designed for ranged combat, can smack their way through the first couple levels. And yet, when playing hardcore anything, even an easy game results in failure when just a moment's inattention can kill you.
Arcane was overpowered during MC because Frost/Fire didn't have their overhaul and were shitty as hell. Therefore during 2005, Arcane was the fotm spec haha
One way to get to lvl 8 easier would have been to go back and forth between IF and SW doing the low level delivery quests. (Could have done this on your way to Northshire for probably a full level of xp)
i just hate when someone isn't upfront about what achievement's they are going for when being invited to a dungeon like a pure fire mage dosnt tell you that's what they are doing until they are asked to sheep.
Arcane in Classic is the support class... but if you play it right it is possible (you just need to invest in gear that buffs you effectively and a strong wand use).
I'm guessing you mean the Arcane school has a lot of supporting spells, because the talent tree itself is extremely useless for supporting your team. As he mentioned at the end, you have 0 spells to save your team in a scary situation. You got two spells in combat. Sure, you can make portals and food for your team, which Frost or Fire only mages can't, but to save your life, you really prefer a frost mage to support you.
Are those "challenge achievements" also part of the addon or something Blizzard added? It sounds very fun. I am currently doing "no-death / no-healing-potions" challenge in Sacred, it kinda does feel like Vanilla WoW at times
im down with you going for the wand, if you have the greater magic wand try to grab a quiver for real, medium quiver with 10 is starter after that youll get a +11% ranged att. speed quiver from a quest duskwood (but if you really want to go for it, then grab the 13% quick draw quiver from leatherwork 225 skill😂) *edit* there also exists a +12% quiver at 150 lw skill
I think those achievement points need to be changed. No way is Arcane only the same worth as Imp only Warlock, or Melee only Hunter. Especially if doing solo, lol. Arcane Mage needs to be like triple the achievement points, what an insane challenge. Peak pure tedium.
Do you know that there is cloth gear with Str in classic. I leveled to level 35 meleemage not hardcore but was lot of fun after leveling melee hunter to level 60.
One of my favorite times in Hardcore was a trio of mages, but we each could only use one school of magic. One mage could only use Frost spells, one mage Fire spells, and the other Arcane spells. The dynamic was amazing. Highly recommend trying it.
Sounds awesom. Wish I had friends :(
@@h0rve995we could try it lol
That sounds so cool. I wish friends were real.
@@General12th I hear you. It’s hard findings people to play in duo or trio for more than a couple days.
This is such a great idea. You see this content made all the time in Runescape and is insanely popular. You'd think more similar WoW content would be made.
I think it was, 18years ago.
@@RealLokiway back in the day it was stuff like machinima skits, pvp montages and music videos like Nyhm did. I didn't see many challenge type videos
@@RealLoki joking about runescape being dead is so 18 years ago haha runescape still one of the most played MMOs
@@RealLoki Challenge runs didnt even start until OSRS Ironman came out lol. Its only been like 2 years since content creators started doing content like "Swampletics"
@@ZephrymWOWthats not even remotely true homie
2019: Let's Minmax this game!
2023: Let's Maxmin this game!
Subbed because this is a level of classic wow suffering I never want to do myself but absolutely want to witness. Keen to see the progress lol
This content is legit so well done, you deserve to blow up. In before you do!
@BirthofEcstasy LOL
I liked arcane missiles in vanilla wow. With the talent you had no spell pushback and melees can't get behind you in PvP, because you are always locked. It was useful as a finisher and can shoot through walls when you have line of sight at the beginning of channeling.
Arcane Intellect does actually make your weapon skills level higher, so it does quite a bit more than nothing early on.
Also idk what meta mindrot led to people never using missiles, but I've been using it and arcane explosion as my main sources of damage and at LVL 30 I've never been outdamaged in a dungeon by anyone of similar level, especially not a mage.
Arcane best spec unless you want that boring Blizzard farming. 10% hit from talents, extra "crits" from arcane subtlety, and free spells from that one other talent. At LVL 30 you can do a free instant PoM-flamestrike whenever free cast procs, and it's amazing.
Also idk if it's my ping or private server spaghetti code, but I killed(yes, killed) people in duels with arcane missiles,, and it's funny every time
This is my first Jampanos video ive ever seen. Great content, great narration, with a tad bit of sarcasm and some good editing. Youve earned yourself a like and a subscribe friend. See you on the next video!
"use spells"
-some human, on their knees, begging for the madness before them to stop
I thought my friend who is doing unarmed only was doing the dumbest but this tops it.
the mushroom is down the cave , thats why it didnt spawn
If you keep this series up, I will watch every second of it. Subscribed for this video alone. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you on the path to 60!
This challenge sounds really fun in all honesty, leveling as only Arcane should be the achievement. Once you're 60 you should have the achievement permanently and you should be allowed to raid/dungeon as any spec IMO. HC is a leveling challenge, griefing endgame content shouldn't be a thing.
This has so much potential. Looking forward to resto only shaman
pls do more of this! I want to see the whole journey of your arcane mage! love it
I don't understand why more people don't start with LW/Skinning to get their first wand. It's subsantially easier imo to get leather than linen. Once you get around 70 light leather you can drop skinning to learn ench. Make embossed leather vests to d/e and then get your ench up. I had my first wand at lvl 5 just farming boar hides in elwynn. from there THEN you take tailoring and you farm to get the 70 ench for the greater wand.
in classic in 2019 my mage "Arcaneofc" had a lot of fun going 1-60 as arcane only, though i wasn't playing hardcode. I think between missles and explosion it still felt like an "S" tier leveling build compared to some other classes
Can’t wait for part 2!
Arcane missiles had exactly one use for me in Classic - using it on people trying to break LOS in PvP to finish them off, since it doesn't usually immediately stop casting.
I love how almost every spell in the bar is arcane missiles. :D
I love these challenges. They're what makes hardcore really great imo. GJ :D
This was really enjoyable to watch! More pls :)
I'm sure someone else has pointed this out but the mushroom for that Darkshore cave quest is in the lower levels of the cave, the spawn point just looks like it should be on the higher level lol
Great video though!
No, theres one up there on the higher area
I just lvled a mage in classic, i was fire until 54 at witch point i tried arcane frost. I decided to get the arcane missiles pushback talent for lvling purposes and found that using it on clearcasting procs was very good as it does a lot more damage than frostbolt.
before this video Arcane Missiles had never been casting WITHOUT a clearcasting proc
Great video mate, I'll be following you closely and I'll be there welcoming you to the Arcanist club when you ding 60!
Commenting before finishing the video but I've actually been leveling a melee warlock on HC, currently level 25 (about to be 26). If you have to melee in the early levels, you need to get a swing timer and walk backwards before your enemies attack you. Since mobs don't follow you immediately if you were standing still, you're essentially applying an "attack speed slow" to your opponents since they won't attack until they reach you. Doing it right, you can even get 2 swings before your opponent can even get 1. Should save you a ton of life. No point in being in melee range after you swung since you can't hit them again anyways.
LOVE THE SKYRIM MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND
Love to see where this takes you. Subscribing to join you on your journey!
Hella fun video! Can't want for part 2
The thing with mobs aggroing onto other players is a bug. It didn't used to happen in classic back in 2019. Calamity has a video on it
Based Arcane Missiles enjoyers. 📖
Arcane missles scale really hard.
Awesome video man :) Subbed
I played on a private server with a guy hell bent on making arcane a thing. We all lost faith in him the day we saw him casting arcane missiles on Shazrah and not noticing that he was doing 0 damage.
Exactly the kind of wow content i want
wish wow had more vids like this, though i can see why it doesnt because its such a time commitment
Honestly, getting Enchanting early (level 5) should have been the priority. The wand you get even does Arcane damage, so a double win. Engineering deals fire damage, so... thematically...
Wow this is so inspiring! Now i'll have to drop my somewhat satirical runescape career and start a somewhat satirical wow career!
I only used arcane missiles in pvp mostly since it continues to cast even after the enemy hides behind something
nice video -- please continue this series!!
As someone who levels arcane because it's fun - you NEVER skip arcane subtlety. Mobs have 0 resistance, and lowering it to -5 gives you vulnerability procs, which are basically extra crits that happen all the time
Hey, spell vulnerability was a thing in early vanilla but was removed for classic, so this no longer works :(
This is why spell pen gear in general kinda sucks
@@jampanos oooh, damn, that sucks, didn't know that :( Guess I'm lucky my private server kept it. yeah, that makes the talent much worse but still good for lowering aggro in dungeons
Average Arcan Mage hotbars
You’re insane, good luck with the run man, I’m gonna be watching 👀
Also, nice editing:)
The price of vendor items is determined by your reputation.
They should just rename it the 'Wand' challenge and be done with it.
New Hardcore Challenge:
-I have to code the entire WoW classic from scratch and level wearing nothing but my starter gear while casting only my first rank Fireball
World of Challenge Craft
i did this once on a troll, but it's similar for any race not really that hard at all, all you need is arcane missiles and a serious amount of patience, totally doable.
Arcane missiles is such an underrated spell for leveling. It's not supposed to just be spammed. You use it when you proc clear casting. Obviously if you're just using arcane spells you can't really weave it in, but that's the best use for AM. You melt things when you weave it in on a clear casting proc
This is classic era, not WotLK. Clearcasting only reduces the mana cost, it doesn’t increase the damage at all in OG classic.
@lelandwhitehead56 yeah.... I know... AM cost so much mana that you should wait until you get clear casting to get it for free. It does way more dps than frostbolt or fireball at low levels, it just cost a fuck ton of mana
Love the skyrim music in the back
Great video! Looking forward to the official HC servers
I still think it's kind of hilarious how the start of WoW is so brainlessly easy that a mage, in cloth robes, no abilities, wholly designed for ranged combat, can smack their way through the first couple levels.
And yet, when playing hardcore anything, even an easy game results in failure when just a moment's inattention can kill you.
the mushroom spawns below him
The lower listed price on stuff is probably because people dont pay attention to rep discounts
Arcane was overpowered during MC because Frost/Fire didn't have their overhaul and were shitty as hell. Therefore during 2005, Arcane was the fotm spec haha
the skyrim music in the background..
Wands?
You can use the Fireball and Ice Armor that you have at lvl 1 without failing the arcanist achievement btw... ^^'
Great work mate, keen you see how long you can survive
Your defense skill is gunna be op
One way to get to lvl 8 easier would have been to go back and forth between IF and SW doing the low level delivery quests. (Could have done this on your way to Northshire for probably a full level of xp)
7:36 it wasnt too scary because you had a light feather with slow fall.
i just hate when someone isn't upfront about what achievement's they are going for when being invited to a dungeon like a pure fire mage dosnt tell you that's what they are doing until they are asked to sheep.
I would for sure tell people
Arcane in Classic is the support class... but if you play it right it is possible (you just need to invest in gear that buffs you effectively and a strong wand use).
I'm guessing you mean the Arcane school has a lot of supporting spells, because the talent tree itself is extremely useless for supporting your team. As he mentioned at the end, you have 0 spells to save your team in a scary situation. You got two spells in combat. Sure, you can make portals and food for your team, which Frost or Fire only mages can't, but to save your life, you really prefer a frost mage to support you.
Awesome. Great idea. Pure arcane mage.
Best part of the video is the skyrim music ^^
Honestly I might do this when the official servers launch.
Great video! Hope you make another one
Are those "challenge achievements" also part of the addon or something Blizzard added? It sounds very fun. I am currently doing "no-death / no-healing-potions" challenge in Sacred, it kinda does feel like Vanilla WoW at times
Arcane intellect doesn't do nothing at level 2! it helps you learn weapon skill faster :)
im down with you going for the wand, if you have the greater magic wand try to grab a quiver for real, medium quiver with 10 is starter after that youll get a +11% ranged att. speed quiver from a quest duskwood (but if you really want to go for it, then grab the 13% quick draw quiver from leatherwork 225 skill😂)
*edit* there also exists a +12% quiver at 150 lw skill
Holy fuck idk why but this is entertaining af haha
I think those achievement points need to be changed. No way is Arcane only the same worth as Imp only Warlock, or Melee only Hunter.
Especially if doing solo, lol. Arcane Mage needs to be like triple the achievement points, what an insane challenge. Peak pure tedium.
Skyrim music hits hard
This is how I play mmos lol, it's weirdly fun
What a great idea. Subbed
All "Schools" of magic is just arcane.
Its giving pokemon nuzlocke vibes. i dig it
bro where is next video? I really liked this one.
Does anyone have a track list for this video? It’s hard to find the wow music that corresponds to the score of this video
It's been a long time since I played WoW at these levels, but surely you could've gotten a wand somehow?
love your actionbars 🤣
why is there skyrim ambiance music under this video (that is about wow) ?
Skinning + LW are waaaay easier for wand. Just skin wendigos for 280 light leather and craft enough stuff for both wands
but here he could also equip the chest tho
Love to see the OSRS mentality hit other games. Let's grind, baby!!
The arcane dream
Ur not a real gigachad until you play a melee mage
this a good video, keep it up
4:53 what are those panels🤖
His challenge is to only use arcane and 5 mins into the video he decides to use a wand kekw
The wand is arcane.
i thought you weren't able to group unless in a dungeon during HC? You broke the rule. This character is now DEAD!
omg you spec'd wand damage over clearcasting? rip
Do you know that there is cloth gear with Str in classic.
I leveled to level 35 meleemage not hardcore but was lot of fun after leveling melee hunter to level 60.
What song is this??? I've heard it a lot but can't remember....
i leveled up as pure arcane before lol its actually not bad
is this a private server or have they added this to actual classic wow now as well ?
water and portals; there are no other spells
Continue this! I made my arcane mage until 32 :/ then died in a stupid cave
In HC you are not allowed to group for anything except for dungeons.
Especially not for changing layers. Challenge failed.
did someone know what is the health bar addon he is using ?