Susan Gregory lives in a historic home, but the bill for her homeowner's insurance renewal is 12 times what one local insurance agent says it should be.
@Polemic-2525 The ignorant blame everything on capitalism. Insurance in very socialist California is also through the roof. When I saw these sky high premiums, I googled why for both states. They have different, but valid reasons for the premiums. In Florida's case, creating criteria and reasonable caps at which insurance companies can be sued would help. In Californa, removing crazy environmental regulations would help.
And not an option for people living in Florida where the likelihood of moderate to catastrophic hurricane damage is likely within 5 years. It's not a matter of 'if' it is a matter of 'when'. I know, I live in Florida.
This is one of the ways Americans will be forced out of home ownership and into rentals. Blackrock and other globalist investors are waiting with cash and will pay pennies on the dollar. They also self insure.
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
The real story for me is the roof being 120 years old and still functional. I want a look at this roof. Why didn’t y’all show the roof. We need some craftsmanship like that nowadays. The insurance company needs to give an exemption for that roof. Seems like it’s better than this new crap.
As a home inspector the roof is not 120 years old. The framing may be 120, but the overlay i.e tile shingle does not survive beyond 30 in most cases, but the reality is a private insurance company will kick you out by pricing you out. It's a strategy and it's the point.
Where is DeSantis, this is the most pressing issue in all of Florida. People will be going bankrupt foreclosures and losing their homes simply because insurance companies are charging a ridiculous amount. But I want to be president!
You have state sponsored insurance citizens that they can apply for. In-addition, DeSantis just passed several bills a few months ago to curtail these issues. You probably won't see the impact of bills until next year. Remember, this has been an issue that's been building for the last decade or more
@@DC-gp6hd Citizens insurance will be cutting 50% of the polices they have. Fact As DeSantis was on his candidacy tour a reporter questioned him about these problems and with Hurricane 🌀 season approaching DeSantis’s comment to this was “Good Luck Floridians “ This once great Governor Turned out to be a backstabber He’ll be bought out by Donors and lobbyists. No thanks.
It's all about removing home ownership from those who have to have mortgages, NOW the mortgage company needs to see if the purchaser can AFFORD homeowners insurance BEFORE the deal is sealed
People who made decisions like this as slide or disgusting. They should be ashamed to show their faces in public. There should be a law to prevent the sort of thing from happening.
So, this insurance agent that they talked to said this woman is being charged 12 times more than she should be paying? That would make the appropriate charge $3,000. Yet, her prior insurance company charged her $9,000 a year and they went belly up.. As is usual with agenda driven reporting, some very important facts were left out. Why did her previous insurance company go insolvent? What is the value of her house? What is the condition of her house (why didn't they have a camera shot of the entire facade)? Is it located on or close to the water? What kind of roof does it have? Has the house been retrofitted with hurricane ties and other preemptive measures? And most importantly, why didn't they interview a representative of her new, replacement insurance company to get their side of the story?
United Property & Casualty insurance went insolvent after Hurricane Ian which cost an estimated $112 billion. After Hurricane Andrew 1992, the GOP claimed that they were the problem solvers. What they did is they enhanced the existing state catastrophe fund then capped it at $17 billion. They are required to pool their money into the fund. Insurance companies grow their money when they're able to invest it in other areas. the money stayed here, doing absolutely nothing. So when crap hit fan, the catastrophe fund was capped at $17 billion and we've seen how much the damage cost between Ian & Idalia. It doesn't factor in the costs from Hurricane Nicole which piled on millions more. IMHO, we are 1 major hurricane away from state bankruptcy
Since 2021, the insurance companies changed the roofing age from 20 years to 10 years. The only reason she got the insurance was a result of its historic designation. Most, if not all are not renewing or canceling.
What happened? The Florida Legislature did NOTHING for YEARS and half a dozen insurance carriers left the state. And Citizens is insolvent. From what I have read in articles, the guy that was supposed to be working it out was getting kickbacks. I had to SELF INSURE in 1986 because they didn't know how to classify a log cabin in the handful I went to that were reasonably priced. And that was then. IT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.
Log cabin falls in to same area as historic old houses, replacement is hard to price especially if it wasn't manufactured log which is still quite expensive.
But they sent the illegals to ny and chicago so now even repairing a house will be so expensive. But desantis is suing disney and going after wokism. Giod going floridians
It’s hard to shop around with all the homeowners insurance companies are pulling out of Florida. This is just one of the many reasons why I moved out of Florida.
Yeah, Florida has a Homeowners Insurance crisis ... caused by corrupt roofing industry. But her main problem is the specific Insurance carrier. That they upped her premium to $36k is simply them saying "We don't want you, but if you write us a big check we will keep you!".
Before you blame, as normal businesses, look at what causes roof damages as in severe storms. Everyone should be forced to do their own roofs in Florida as it isn't a bad job just very hard work especially in the hot sun.
The corrupt roofing industry is only one aspect. The real reason is that insurances dont want to pay so they spend 10s or even 100s of millions on hiring arrorneys
The explosion of Suburbia in a Hurricane prone region is the problem. Large cities and rural countryside fair far better in a Hurricane but tightly packed mcmansions with 100k of new vehicles parked in the driveway... is a real liability.
Overdevelopment is a problem. However, the Crux of the problem is they are building in places they're not supposed to. They remove natural barriers like mangroves and fill them in, building on land that is unstable, like they're building some million dollar Mansions up there in the Lakeland area on land that has been known to open up with multiple sinkholes. The No Name storm that hit South Florida almost 3 weeks ago show areas that experienced massive flooding and in the middle of it as brand new construction. You couldn't tell where the buildings ended and where the water began. There'll be more areas prone to flooding because there has been a rise in sea levels and natural barriers like mangroves have been ripped out to put oceanfront homes and condos
Rural countryside in Florida has been disappearing for decades. I remember reading in the Florida Almanac in the 90s (I was living in the state at the time, left the state in 2000, not an easy decision to make) that the state was losing roughly 125,000 acres of farmland a year to development. At that rate there isn't going to be much of any rural countryside left in the state.
Florida. Where the streets that used to be dry now flood routinely, where storms wipe out entire communities. I grasp why insurers are jacking up rates there.
Yep. Most likely a slate roof, located in a hurricane prone area. But it's obvious that the new insurance company is high balling because they don't want to insure her.
If other states' ratepayers didn't subsidize FL with their rate payments, $36,000 is the correct rate because of the ultra high risk. What is DeSantis going to do about this?
It is probably Spanish tile or English Slate....Either way it is in a "HISTORIC DISTRICT" which means a replacement must be in the same material as the original no modifications!! That type of roof would be in the 6 digit range in Florida today.
The Politicians will not pass Laws to bring the Insurance prices down because the Insurance Companies pay the Politicians huge amounts of money to keep out of it. The best thing to do is to start putting money into a separate bank account and create your own insurance safety net . It works double for you because once you have saved the amount it would take to replace your home then you can borrow from yourself for home repairs or upgrades without paying interest .
The problem is , it is not always a free market , in some cases insurance is a requirement by law and insurance companies lobby for more all the time .@@squishsquall3159
This means the insurance companies are in trouble. They horribly mismanaged and the majority shareholders have bled them dry. All these corporations are paying out dividends while sitting on mountains of debt.
That is not how insurance works. It spreads risk among clients, and takes a fee for managing that. The total premiums have to cover anticipated payouts and provide a surplus for a profit for those underwriting it. Insurance is NOT charity. The main reason rates go up is the ever increasing amount of claims made, and the pool of people who chose to participate. So, for example, if people who are not likely to make a claim leave the pool, then the rates for those who remain are going to increase. That leads to more people leaving the pool, and eventually those at high risk who remain are going to be paying very high rates.
We had UPC also. Slide was automatically assigned to us. $12,000 premium! Got thru Allstate for less than $3500. Slide billed by mortgage company and they paid. Had to fight to get refund of the $12000!!!
Pay your Florida home off ASAP and get out from under homeowner insurance. You can fortify your home against hurricanes and flooding cheaper than decades of insurance premiums.
Happened to me too. We moved down here during Covid. We got UPC with premium around $3k. Last year, Slide took over and my premium went to $11k. My agent couldn't find another insurance carrier but was able to jack up my deductible and final premium with Slide was still around $9k. Shameful! Maybe I should have stayed up north.
I read through the comments and it appears noone actually works for an insurance company. What Slide is doing, as most insurance carriers do, is apply a "surcharge" to the home. This circumvents the cap a carrier can charge yearly for the home. The actuary for the underwriting department considers the age of the home and applied a surcharge for age. The carrier has to take into consideration the age of the cast iron pipes, the roof, and all the materials it would take to replace the home if it burns to the ground. The cost to replace this home exceeds what they are allowing under coverage A and they know that. So when you get your policy, look at your dec page and look for the surcharge because it is there. And that is where this crazy premiums are coming from. It has very little to do with "hurricane zones" Florida is a hurricane zone.
Take the $36,000, buy a nice van and hit the road. Stop watching HGTV that tells you how much fancy house you need or how you gotta have a new kitchen/roof/whatever to compete with the neighbors.
So sue the remaining insurance companies out of the state, sounds like a great idea. Florida is an extremely high risk state for insurance companies and many have left already and each state is in fact a separate company by law and under state laws. Or should people in areas with low cost due to rare events subside Florida residents, I don't want to just let them pay for all their great weather and beaches and such with high costs due to the severe hits they get.
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
I'm glad my house is paid for. If my homeowner's insurance charged me that much I would just sock the money away and self insure. Now if her roof is 120 years old, yes it will last over a century but chances are her roof has asbestos. It would cost a fortune to change that roof including getting it tested for asbestos. If positive she would have to spend on a specialty roofing team with hazmat suits including tearing up part of her yard to dispose of the waste as asbestos can cause lung cancer. Actually no company should insure a home with a roof THAT old.
I just have to say that Im tired if my premiums going up to cover to costs of people's homes that choose to live in areas prone to hurricane, tornado, forest fires, mud slides and flooding. I live 20 minutes away from the gulf coast but heck if you want to live by the water then live with it. Insurance isn't cheap and replacing a home isn't cheap either but come on.
I have always bought and maintained flood insurance, even though I don't live in a Flood Zone. If we ALL were 100% insured the premiums would decrease. The fact is nothing will stop a hurricane from hitting you if that is what fate tells the hurricane to do. If everyone just knew a fire was going to happen, they would get rid of the excess fuel, like undergrowth and dead leaves under the canopies with controlled burns. People who live on flood plains, well, they must know what the risks are, as it is living on a Texas, Louisiana or any coastal town in Hurricane season. If we had NATIONAL Hurricane and Wind coverage like Flood coverage, rate would decrease.
Self insure or get what you can out of it. One alternative might be to find a nice piece of land you can develop an RV spot on and never rely on insurance companies again. This housing and insurance situation needs alternatives.
Our home is just over 30 years old now, I added up the premiums we have paid for insurance over those 30 years and guess what? We paid right at $148,000 dollars in premiums, we have made two claims, one for Hurricane Charley which came out to $21,000 dollars and for Hurricane Ian which came out to $23,000 dollars so that is a total of $44,000 dollars the insurance company has paid out on our home over 30 years and that means they made $104,000 dollars so please tell me how these insurance companies get away with crying poor mouth.
Insurance is meant to spread the risk, that money has gone to cover those who DID get hit big time. You participate because you don't know who that unlucky person is going to be, last time it was them, next time it could be you. But hey, if you are willing to personally take the risk of losing everything if your house takes a direct hit from a hurricane, stop insuring.
Gotta love Florida. NOT TO MENTION....Historic District means you must replace roofs in the same material and style of the original. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BILL!!!!!!!
Wow.. I was complaining bout 1900 from liberty mutal but got it chop down to 1521, then called farmers bureau and made some adjustments to 1304. Crazy times we're in
The new company doesn't want the policy but is probably prevented from non-renewing, so they raise the rate hoping the client will go to another company.
Insurance companies don't want old houses, they want you in a brand new house built to the latest hurricane building codes and if not, you will pay or have to self insure.
You will own nothing and you'll be happy." A phrase originating in a 2016 video by the World Economic Forum, summarising an essay written by Danish politician Ida Auken.
Florida home owners can choose to get together and form a home owners' insurance co-operative and cut out the middle men. They insure themselves and hire a team to do the paper work. That's what insurance companies are doing - get money from a wide spread area so it doesn't get wiped out if one area gets hit by hurricane.
A co-op would be very selective in who they let in. If you live in a flood zone or area subject to extensive hurricane damage, co-op wouldn't want to let that customer in. The problem is most of the housing in Florida is built near water, and subject to flooding/hurricane. Fraud is also an issue.
That won't work because everyone would likely be claiming at the same time. Insurance is meant to spread risk, so if something happens to one house the pool collectively makes it whole. But if it happens to everyone at the same time then it will not be able to do that.
This is only the beginning. A couple more bad hurricanes, and the state will have to create an insurance pool and guarantee it (the way the US Government does with the National Flood Insurance Program) if the program can't pay out claims, but unlike regular insurance companies, the state government won't let you sue theirs.
@@DC-gp6hd HB 837 deals mostly with bad faith claims and while bad faith claims are a serious problem, the more serious problem is that the coastlines of Florida are at increasingly high risk of hurricanes and flooding. Also there were 391,000 undocumented workers in Florida and many are leaving, and many of those are in construction, so the cost of rebuilding in Florida has gone up considerably because now the construction companies have to use citizens, and that means they have to pay them more an that means that the cost to repair or rebuild goes up. Those are why insurance companies are leaving, and while HB 837 may improve things, it does not reduce the risk of hurricanes and the cost of rebuilding. Investors that look at the financial risks associated with global warming (I am one of those) knew this was coming.
@@DC-gp6hd HB 837 does not stop people from suing insurance companies. I don't know where you got that ideal. It is tort reform legislation that deals primarily with bad faith lawsuits. It does nothing to really lower house insurance in any meaningful way because what is driving insurance costs is risk of severe storms, and the cost of rebuilding and repair. A lot of construction work in Florida is done by illegal immigrants and they have been leaving Florida, so contractors are having to pay more for labor and inflation has caused materials prices to increase. It is the threat of severe storms that mostly dictate the cost of insurance and while bad faith claims are indeed a factor, they don't really constitute much risk. Now, it might help with auto insurance because bad faith claims are far more problematic in the car insurance business.
@@shenmisheshou7002 HB 837 will help with the insurance companies bottom dollar (profit margin). In-addition he passed SB 2-D which enacted pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increased insurance claim transparency, and cracked down on frivolous lawsuits. Prior to that he passed SB 2-A, which reduces the burden of excessive and predatory litigation will help bring down costs for homeowners.
@@shenmisheshou7002 Also, one of the major contributors for insurance companies pulling out was due to number roofing scams. The contractor claims the homeowner can receive a free roof and the insurance deductible will be waived, but the contractor pressures the homeowner to sign an assignment of benefits (AOB) agreement that allows the contractor to file the claim. When the claim adjuster later finds little or no damage, the insurer denies the claim or offers a smaller amount. The contractor then sues the insurer. The insurer is forced to either fight the lawsuit or pay to settle it - either option is expensive. HB 837 will help protect the insurer... again, I am not wrong!
there was another video, it showed the tax assessment for a house, something like $2M for the land, and 275K for the structure. Not sure what the market value was or whether the assessment is reasonable. If it is that the land has the greater part of the value, then the structure value is small, the insurance on it should not be huge - while may not be applicable to this, St. Augustine.
And the GOVERNOR on a multi million dollar party excursion in IOWA.n He has allowed fla to catch up to californicatoria and ny in cost of living, take our money and run, that what a lawyer good for
@@EdwardRingwaldCondos have their own insurance policies for the complex as a whole. Those policies just don't cover deductibles and anything that is internal to your unit. The reason to have a personal policy is to cover the strata deductable in the event of a claim, and for liability in the instance of damage emanating from your unit.
It's a rip off scam called price gouging and thats what's happening in every industry. I'm retired my 2017 Honda rarely leaves the Garage. My home is 100 % brick. 1,100 Sf to be exact. They went up 36% on my Car insurance and we are senior citizens with spotlessl driving records. I have never had a claim against my Home owner insurance. That increased 65 %. Its nothing but price gouging. I went with AARP and they linked me with the Hartford Insurance company.
Insurance industry better be careful - people will drop coverage altogether. NC just proposed a massive hike and the entire state is freaking pissed!!!!!!
Probably a 100K+ roof replacement for the insurance company next wind storm event when she files for roof replacement of original 120 year old roof using same materials
They did this to me it was not that big,but a $400.00 increase . I couldn’t pay my utilities.I did ask them to shop around,they did.I think if you just pay the increase they will just increase it again.Three times in one year.
Of all of the things we neednto regulate, insurance is definitely one of them. My company increased my rates 40 percent 3 years in a row. I called a new company and got it for WAY less! Never made a claim in over 10 years.
If you OWN your home, stop paying insurance and setup a Rainy day savings account where you put what you would pay the Premium. Inside of 5 years, you'll have enough money saved that you can put it in a Money Market investment where you can be making more money than interest, and further increasing you Rainy Day Fund. If you live in a HOA, well that's your mistake, and you may be FORCED to carry insurance, in which case, if you can, sell your house and move to a NON-HOA home!
The legislature should at least establish annual percentage caps on rate increases to ensure companies aren't gouging the homeowners. Insurance is suppose to be a risk borne by both parties, the insurance company and the homeowner. This just reinforces for me that the one word that best describes the people in this country is "GREEDY" as we see that to be true more and more (from the politicians in power to the minimum wage earners demanding higher hourly rates). Every economic mistake results in a cascading affect that will impact all of us!
I don't live in Florida. My insurance has nearly doubled in two years. My agent blames the big payoffs from Florida hurricanes for my increases. Nice that I subsidize these people.
I've seen other news about Slide insurance. They apparently are an over-the-top company hoping to make a killing on homeowners who cannot possibly afford their insurance. Homeowners are having to find other insurance coverage if they have to keep it. But if you have paid off your home, or as I understand have paid over 20% you no longer need insurance. I dropped mine this last week because I paid my home off two years ago, along with a rental. The rental will be reduced to liability only, for slip and falls or accidents on the property and not on the house itself. The house is still there, built in 1947. Shop around, don't give up. Just spend a few days on the phone if that's what it takes, to get the lowest insurance you can. Talk to your mortgage company and see who they recommend.
I've seen other videos where people dropped their home-owners insurance entirely in Florida. Instead, they save each month what a normal insurance bill would be and have a nest egg in case there is something they really need for the house. That way they can still afford to live in their house. If a storm destroys it then I suppose they would be homeless. So, become homeless now or take a chance on becoming homeless later.
@@martinanderko9893on your renter's. But rent is same as homeowners mortgage, taxes insurance and maintenance are included in rent. That's why there's been rent hikes across the board.
As usual, the business problem is turned over to the consumer to get stuck with. And they leave the consumer to chase around and provide the paperwork , which the insurance company is supposed to do.
Doesn’t matter what you do to the house I have all impact door and windows a clean mitagation and 4 point inspection and I just added a new roof last week . When I told them about the roof they said congrats with that you’ll save $9 a yr 😏
$8800/yr was already crazy
Couple friends live Florida and 8-9 thousand couples years back pretty average
Capitalism in America promotes this kind of thing. Greed
Not on a $2-3 mil home.
@Polemic-2525
The ignorant blame everything on capitalism. Insurance in very socialist California is also through the roof. When I saw these sky high premiums, I googled why for both states. They have different, but valid reasons for the premiums. In Florida's case, creating criteria and reasonable caps at which insurance companies can be sued would help. In Californa, removing crazy environmental regulations would help.
@@Polemic-2525 when the government and big companies control everything that is communism. just look at China.
At that point, it does make sense to self insure. If nothing happens in 5 years, you have 180K saved for repairs.
Not an option for the vast majority of people, anyone with a mortgage is required to have coverage
And not an option for people living in Florida where the likelihood of moderate to catastrophic hurricane damage is likely within 5 years. It's not a matter of 'if' it is a matter of 'when'. I know, I live in Florida.
@@JamesBrown-ij1px Her house is 120 years old and has the original roof, if its been hit by Hurricanes, it must not have been hard.
Exactly
Who can afford to save $36K per year working a min wage or $15 ph wage?
$36k for a two bedroom home is insane af!
This is one of the ways Americans will be forced out of home ownership and into rentals. Blackrock and other globalist investors are waiting with cash and will pay pennies on the dollar. They also self insure.
So is building in a swamp thats guranteed to be frequented by hurricanes, but here we are..
@jetjan RegeneRon DeScamtis
🕯 never forget.
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
Running the poor out the door. Run
My guess is the woman isn't worried about her next meal.
U catch on fast man
What a wonderful time to be alive!
I sing and dance every day because Hell is so toasty. Only I'm freezing.
And I was angry when my homeowner's insurance went from $1440 to $3856 in one year.
Thats a big leap
And you should be angry.
The real story for me is the roof being 120 years old and still functional. I want a look at this roof. Why didn’t y’all show the roof. We need some craftsmanship like that nowadays. The insurance company needs to give an exemption for that roof. Seems like it’s better than this new crap.
As a home inspector the roof is not 120 years old. The framing may be 120, but the overlay i.e tile shingle does not survive beyond 30 in most cases, but the reality is a private insurance company will kick you out by pricing you out. It's a strategy and it's the point.
BULLSH1T
@@alexisnogueras9400 how does framing survive for 120 years?
Desantis didn’t do a damn. Thing for us Floridians
Yes he did have too been sleeping?@@beautyRest1
Where is DeSantis, this is the most pressing issue in all of Florida. People will be going bankrupt foreclosures and losing their homes simply because insurance companies are charging a ridiculous amount. But I want to be president!
He is busy chasing after Trump.
DeSantis is an impotent Governor. He only cares about his (sinking) Presidential campaign and has abandoned the people of Florida. He's awful.
I guess he’s too busy trying to run for a presidential candidate
You have state sponsored insurance citizens that they can apply for. In-addition, DeSantis just passed several bills a few months ago to curtail these issues. You probably won't see the impact of bills until next year. Remember, this has been an issue that's been building for the last decade or more
@@DC-gp6hd Citizens insurance will be cutting 50% of the polices they have. Fact
As DeSantis was on his candidacy tour a reporter questioned him about these problems and with Hurricane 🌀 season approaching
DeSantis’s comment to this was
“Good Luck Floridians “
This once great Governor
Turned out to be a backstabber
He’ll be bought out by Donors and lobbyists.
No thanks.
Cool, 36,000 for a home that’s weathered Florida for 120 years of storms and hurricanes. That makes sense right?
It's all about removing home ownership from those who have to have mortgages, NOW the mortgage company needs to see if the purchaser can AFFORD homeowners insurance BEFORE the deal is sealed
People who made decisions like this as slide or disgusting. They should be ashamed to show their faces in public. There should be a law to prevent the sort of thing from happening.
There is. It's called competition. Ask why insurance companies are pulling out of Florida
Abbott Tract is on the National Registry of Historic Places; the houses are half million and up. It also sticks out into the ocean. SELL.
So, this insurance agent that they talked to said this woman is being charged 12 times more than she should be paying? That would make the appropriate charge $3,000. Yet, her prior insurance company charged her $9,000 a year and they went belly up.. As is usual with agenda driven reporting, some very important facts were left out. Why did her previous insurance company go insolvent? What is the value of her house? What is the condition of her house (why didn't they have a camera shot of the entire facade)? Is it located on or close to the water? What kind of roof does it have? Has the house been retrofitted with hurricane ties and other preemptive measures? And most importantly, why didn't they interview a representative of her new, replacement insurance company to get their side of the story?
Just say you represent insurance companies and keep the tremendous lecture
Nice emotional response, Angela. Perhaps you could take the effort to address any of my points? @@angelaw9476
@@angelaw9476 Just say he represents someone with common sense.....
United Property & Casualty insurance went insolvent after Hurricane Ian which cost an estimated $112 billion.
After Hurricane Andrew 1992, the GOP claimed that they were the problem solvers. What they did is they enhanced the existing state catastrophe fund then capped it at $17 billion. They are required to pool their money into the fund. Insurance companies grow their money when they're able to invest it in other areas. the money stayed here, doing absolutely nothing. So when crap hit fan, the catastrophe fund was capped at $17 billion and we've seen how much the damage cost between Ian & Idalia. It doesn't factor in the costs from Hurricane Nicole which piled on millions more. IMHO, we are 1 major hurricane away from state bankruptcy
Since 2021, the insurance companies changed the roofing age from 20 years to 10 years. The only reason she got the insurance was a result of its historic designation. Most, if not all are not renewing or canceling.
What happened? The Florida Legislature did NOTHING for YEARS and half a dozen insurance carriers left the state. And Citizens is insolvent. From what I have read in articles, the guy that was supposed to be working it out was getting kickbacks.
I had to SELF INSURE in 1986 because they didn't know how to classify a log cabin in the handful I went to that were reasonably priced. And that was then. IT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.
You voted for this stupidity 😂😂
Basically it's being sucked into a practice of fraudulent insurance scams
Log cabin falls in to same area as historic old houses, replacement is hard to price especially if it wasn't manufactured log which is still quite expensive.
But they sent the illegals to ny and chicago so now even repairing a house will be so expensive. But desantis is suing disney and going after wokism. Giod going floridians
Allegedly guess where that person who was supposed to solve Citizens problems has landed and started their own company back I 2021?
It’s hard to shop around with all the homeowners insurance companies are pulling out of Florida.
This is just one of the many reasons why I moved out of Florida.
You are absolutely correct. I am hoping to sell my house and move out of Florida as soon as possible.
@@JamesBrown-ij1px I relocated to South Carolina and love it. With the exception of food costs, everything else is much cheaper.
@@godislove4540 Florida is much cheaper than south carolina for many people based on income tax alone.
No kidding. With rises in sea level, Florida is going to become a very expensive place to live as time goes by.
I paid that for my house in 1989.
Yeah, Florida has a Homeowners Insurance crisis ... caused by corrupt roofing industry. But her main problem is the specific Insurance carrier. That they upped her premium to $36k is simply them saying "We don't want you, but if you write us a big check we will keep you!".
Before you blame, as normal businesses, look at what causes roof damages as in severe storms. Everyone should be forced to do their own roofs in Florida as it isn't a bad job just very hard work especially in the hot sun.
The corrupt roofing industry is only one aspect. The real reason is that insurances dont want to pay so they spend 10s or even 100s of millions on hiring arrorneys
And corrupt homeowners
@@MuzixMaker That is part of it also
The insurance company is basically saying every two years they expect to replace her home from hurricane damage.
If you own a home in Mexico your average cost for homeowners insurance is around $50 to $70us annually. Just saying....
You're not accounting for the Cartel shakedown
Lol, who wants to live in stinky Mexico?
The explosion of Suburbia in a Hurricane prone region is the problem. Large cities and rural countryside fair far better in a Hurricane but tightly packed mcmansions with 100k of new vehicles parked in the driveway... is a real liability.
Overdevelopment is a problem. However, the Crux of the problem is they are building in places they're not supposed to. They remove natural barriers like mangroves and fill them in, building on land that is unstable, like they're building some million dollar Mansions up there in the Lakeland area on land that has been known to open up with multiple sinkholes. The No Name storm that hit South Florida almost 3 weeks ago show areas that experienced massive flooding and in the middle of it as brand new construction. You couldn't tell where the buildings ended and where the water began. There'll be more areas prone to flooding because there has been a rise in sea levels and natural barriers like mangroves have been ripped out to put oceanfront homes and condos
Rural countryside in Florida has been disappearing for decades. I remember reading in the Florida Almanac in the 90s (I was living in the state at the time, left the state in 2000, not an easy decision to make) that the state was losing roughly 125,000 acres of farmland a year to development. At that rate there isn't going to be much of any rural countryside left in the state.
Florida. Where the streets that used to be dry now flood routinely, where storms wipe out entire communities. I grasp why insurers are jacking up rates there.
It’s because it’s a historic home.
Yep. Most likely a slate roof, located in a hurricane prone area. But it's obvious that the new insurance company is high balling because they don't want to insure her.
If other states' ratepayers didn't subsidize FL with their rate payments, $36,000 is the correct rate because of the ultra high risk. What is DeSantis going to do about this?
She should not have even been paying the over inflated amount of $8,800.00 prior to this crazy bill.
I wanted to see what a 120 year old roof looks like, what's it made of??
Good question most last 25-30yrs what kinda house does she live in???
It is probably Spanish tile or English Slate....Either way it is in a "HISTORIC DISTRICT" which means a replacement must be in the same material as the original no modifications!! That type of roof would be in the 6 digit range in Florida today.
The Politicians will not pass Laws to bring the Insurance prices down because the Insurance Companies pay the Politicians huge amounts of money to keep out of it. The best thing to do is to start putting money into a separate bank account and create your own insurance safety net . It works double for you because once you have saved the amount it would take to replace your home then you can borrow from yourself for home repairs or upgrades without paying interest .
Why should laws be passed preventing insurance companies charge what they see fit. Let the free market determine the price.
The problem is , it is not always a free market , in some cases insurance is a requirement by law and insurance companies lobby for more all the time .@@squishsquall3159
@squishsquall3159 thats bullshit...and it's Republicans in the companies back pocket getting kickbacks to not fix it...all corrupt bullshit✋️✋️
This means the insurance companies are in trouble. They horribly mismanaged and the majority shareholders have bled them dry. All these corporations are paying out dividends while sitting on mountains of debt.
That is not how insurance works. It spreads risk among clients, and takes a fee for managing that. The total premiums have to cover anticipated payouts and provide a surplus for a profit for those underwriting it. Insurance is NOT charity.
The main reason rates go up is the ever increasing amount of claims made, and the pool of people who chose to participate. So, for example, if people who are not likely to make a claim leave the pool, then the rates for those who remain are going to increase. That leads to more people leaving the pool, and eventually those at high risk who remain are going to be paying very high rates.
I thought my 6k bill was bad. When I canceled, the agent asked me why 😂😂
“Slide”. Yes, slide you right into bankruptcy…
We had UPC also. Slide was automatically assigned to us. $12,000 premium! Got thru Allstate for less than $3500. Slide billed by mortgage company and they paid. Had to fight to get refund of the $12000!!!
You can thank Ron Desantis for refusing to address insurance law reform in Florida.
Or perhaps thank God for all of the hurricanes?
And the people will vote him back in office. BETCHA.
@@Chicago48not me I didn’t and I won’t. He needs to focus on the FL homeowners insurance crisis. He isn’t helping us.
@@Chicago48 Well. As much as I would vote for him AGAIN. He can't be voted back in. He's on his final term as Governor.
But Old Joe the diaper zombie is in charge. Can't he help?
Insurance deserves to make a profit…don’t they?
Ur righr about that but why the wild increases 4 us living upper midwest
She should sell now, because sooner or later the higher cost will catch up to her. She will then be forced to sell.
Pay your Florida home off ASAP and get out from under homeowner insurance. You can fortify your home against hurricanes and flooding cheaper than decades of insurance premiums.
This is a turn around the the insurance company usually has fraud committed against them. Now there committing fraud against their customers.
Happened to me too. We moved down here during Covid. We got UPC with premium around $3k. Last year, Slide took over and my premium went to $11k. My agent couldn't find another insurance carrier but was able to jack up my deductible and final premium with Slide was still around $9k. Shameful! Maybe I should have stayed up north.
These rich men in Tallahassee don’t care about us
Just figuring that out huh. Trying 2 get gays set straight don't have time 4 stuff that matters
I read through the comments and it appears noone actually works for an insurance company. What Slide is doing, as most insurance carriers do, is apply a "surcharge" to the home. This circumvents the cap a carrier can charge yearly for the home. The actuary for the underwriting department considers the age of the home and applied a surcharge for age. The carrier has to take into consideration the age of the cast iron pipes, the roof, and all the materials it would take to replace the home if it burns to the ground. The cost to replace this home exceeds what they are allowing under coverage A and they know that. So when you get your policy, look at your dec page and look for the surcharge because it is there. And that is where this crazy premiums are coming from. It has very little to do with "hurricane zones" Florida is a hurricane zone.
Move out of hurricane alley. The insurance will go down
Take the $36,000, buy a nice van and hit the road. Stop watching HGTV that tells you how much fancy house you need or how you gotta have a new kitchen/roof/whatever to compete with the neighbors.
I cant even get any insurance company's to return my calls, iam in the Panhandle of Florida
These companies should be sued...
So sue the remaining insurance companies out of the state, sounds like a great idea. Florida is an extremely high risk state for insurance companies and many have left already and each state is in fact a separate company by law and under state laws. Or should people in areas with low cost due to rare events subside Florida residents, I don't want to just let them pay for all their great weather and beaches and such with high costs due to the severe hits they get.
how much of that is agent fees?
Self insure. If you have 20% paid on your mortgage you can handle your( escrow ) taxes and insurance on your own. At that point just cancel your insurance. Punish the industry, and fight back.
How many square feet is the house ??
Might as well save that money and put it in a high yield saving account for future repairs every year.
The same people who own the insurance companies also owned the mortgage companies
I'm glad my house is paid for. If my homeowner's insurance charged me that much I would just sock the money away and self insure. Now if her roof is 120 years old, yes it will last over a century but chances are her roof has asbestos. It would cost a fortune to change that roof including getting it tested for asbestos. If positive she would have to spend on a specialty roofing team with hazmat suits including tearing up part of her yard to dispose of the waste as asbestos can cause lung cancer. Actually no company should insure a home with a roof THAT old.
Depends on what it's made of. A Copper roof with soldered seams will last forever. A slate roof can also last forever.
@@fauxque5057 But the letter of the law does not specify of the material. Just age. 5 years.
I just have to say that Im tired if my premiums going up to cover to costs of people's homes that choose to live in areas prone to hurricane, tornado, forest fires, mud slides and flooding. I live 20 minutes away from the gulf coast but heck if you want to live by the water then live with it. Insurance isn't cheap and replacing a home isn't cheap either but come on.
I have always bought and maintained flood insurance, even though I don't live in a Flood Zone. If we ALL were 100% insured the premiums would decrease. The fact is nothing will stop a hurricane from hitting you if that is what fate tells the hurricane to do. If everyone just knew a fire was going to happen, they would get rid of the excess fuel, like undergrowth and dead leaves under the canopies with controlled burns. People who live on flood plains, well, they must know what the risks are, as it is living on a Texas, Louisiana or any coastal town in Hurricane season. If we had NATIONAL Hurricane and Wind coverage like Flood coverage, rate would decrease.
We put on a new roof and ours went down $200. I can’t believe that a 120 year old house has its original roof…?
Self insure or get what you can out of it. One alternative might be to find a nice piece of land you can develop an RV spot on and never rely on insurance companies again. This housing and insurance situation needs alternatives.
What a great name for a insurance company… Slide. We’re gonna grab this money and slide right out of here.
Our home is just over 30 years old now, I added up the premiums we have paid for insurance over those 30 years and guess what? We paid right at $148,000 dollars in premiums, we have made two claims, one for Hurricane Charley which came out to $21,000 dollars and for Hurricane Ian which came out to $23,000 dollars so that is a total of $44,000 dollars the insurance company has paid out on our home over 30 years and that means they made $104,000 dollars so please tell me how these insurance companies get away with crying poor mouth.
Insurance is meant to spread the risk, that money has gone to cover those who DID get hit big time. You participate because you don't know who that unlucky person is going to be, last time it was them, next time it could be you.
But hey, if you are willing to personally take the risk of losing everything if your house takes a direct hit from a hurricane, stop insuring.
Gotta love Florida. NOT TO MENTION....Historic District means you must replace roofs in the same material and style of the original. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BILL!!!!!!!
Wow.. I was complaining bout 1900 from liberty mutal but got it chop down to 1521, then called farmers bureau and made some adjustments to 1304. Crazy times we're in
Bet polititions are shareholders
What is the home value? Covered for a million or more?
Just another example of insurance greed aka insurance fraud.
Just another example of someone not understanding what insurance is and how it works.
When the amount is that absurd it makes your decision making process very easy.
The new company doesn't want the policy but is probably prevented from non-renewing, so they raise the rate hoping the client will go to another company.
Insurance companies don't want old houses, they want you in a brand new house built to the latest hurricane building codes and if not, you will pay or have to self insure.
At that level what is the point of insurance?
You will own nothing and you'll be happy." A phrase originating in a 2016 video by the World Economic Forum, summarising an essay written by Danish politician Ida Auken.
No wonder the name of the company is “Slide” as in “let me slide this bill under your hand” 😂😂😂😂😂
If you own your home you are not required to pay for insurance.
Correct if our home burns down I am SOL. I don’t think people should go with our home insurance
Florida home owners can choose to get together and form a home owners' insurance co-operative and cut out the middle men. They insure themselves and hire a team to do the paper work. That's what insurance companies are doing - get money from a wide spread area so it doesn't get wiped out if one area gets hit by hurricane.
A co-op would be very selective in who they let in. If you live in a flood zone or area subject to extensive hurricane damage, co-op wouldn't want to let that customer in. The problem is most of the housing in Florida is built near water, and subject to flooding/hurricane. Fraud is also an issue.
Pool vs. Co-op
Good suggestion but when 1 CO-OP person files for a 100K+ roof replacement, the group will go bat shxt imo. Lawsuits , fraud, revolt
That won't work because everyone would likely be claiming at the same time. Insurance is meant to spread risk, so if something happens to one house the pool collectively makes it whole. But if it happens to everyone at the same time then it will not be able to do that.
We need the government to regulatee the insurance industry
Its ironic that the insurance company is called "slide". These house are "sliding" into the ocean.
This is only the beginning. A couple more bad hurricanes, and the state will have to create an insurance pool and guarantee it (the way the US Government does with the National Flood Insurance Program) if the program can't pay out claims, but unlike regular insurance companies, the state government won't let you sue theirs.
Desantis passed earlier this year, a bill to protect businesses and insurance companies from people suing.
@@DC-gp6hd HB 837 deals mostly with bad faith claims and while bad faith claims are a serious problem, the more serious problem is that the coastlines of Florida are at increasingly high risk of hurricanes and flooding. Also there were 391,000 undocumented workers in Florida and many are leaving, and many of those are in construction, so the cost of rebuilding in Florida has gone up considerably because now the construction companies have to use citizens, and that means they have to pay them more an that means that the cost to repair or rebuild goes up. Those are why insurance companies are leaving, and while HB 837 may improve things, it does not reduce the risk of hurricanes and the cost of rebuilding. Investors that look at the financial risks associated with global warming (I am one of those) knew this was coming.
@@DC-gp6hd HB 837 does not stop people from suing insurance companies. I don't know where you got that ideal. It is tort reform legislation that deals primarily with bad faith lawsuits. It does nothing to really lower house insurance in any meaningful way because what is driving insurance costs is risk of severe storms, and the cost of rebuilding and repair. A lot of construction work in Florida is done by illegal immigrants and they have been leaving Florida, so contractors are having to pay more for labor and inflation has caused materials prices to increase. It is the threat of severe storms that mostly dictate the cost of insurance and while bad faith claims are indeed a factor, they don't really constitute much risk. Now, it might help with auto insurance because bad faith claims are far more problematic in the car insurance business.
@@shenmisheshou7002 HB 837 will help with the insurance companies bottom dollar (profit margin). In-addition he passed SB 2-D which enacted pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increased insurance claim transparency, and cracked down on frivolous lawsuits. Prior to that he passed SB 2-A, which reduces the burden of excessive and predatory litigation will help bring down costs for homeowners.
@@shenmisheshou7002 Also, one of the major contributors for insurance companies pulling out was due to number roofing scams. The contractor claims the homeowner can receive a free roof and the insurance deductible will be waived, but the contractor pressures the homeowner to sign an assignment of benefits (AOB) agreement that allows the contractor to file the claim. When the claim adjuster later finds little or no damage, the insurer denies the claim or offers a smaller amount. The contractor then sues the insurer. The insurer is forced to either fight the lawsuit or pay to settle it - either option is expensive. HB 837 will help protect the insurer... again, I am not wrong!
That sunshine ain’t cheap 😅
there was another video, it showed the tax assessment for a house, something like $2M for the land, and 275K for the structure. Not sure what the market value was or whether the assessment is reasonable. If it is that the land has the greater part of the value, then the structure value is small, the insurance on it should not be huge - while may not be applicable to this, St. Augustine.
She needs to go to an independent broker to shop all insurers for her. I got quotes from $2700 to $8500 for the same coverage.
And the GOVERNOR on a multi million dollar party excursion in IOWA.n He has allowed fla to catch up to californicatoria and ny in cost of living, take our money and run, that what a lawyer good for
Just don’t buy the insurance. Keep those money on the side and use it to do the repair. Be your own insurance.
If you own a mortgage on a house, Insurance is required as part of that mortgage. It's factored into the mortgage payment.
@@JamesBrown-ij1px I didn’t know. I bought my house in cash, but the insurance only costs $50/month in PA
If you own a condo unit, more than likely your documents will have a clause that requires you to have a condo unit owners insurance policy.
@@x-men69-96 That's Erie.
@@EdwardRingwaldCondos have their own insurance policies for the complex as a whole. Those policies just don't cover deductibles and anything that is internal to your unit. The reason to have a personal policy is to cover the strata deductable in the event of a claim, and for liability in the instance of damage emanating from your unit.
It's a rip off scam called price gouging and thats what's happening in every industry. I'm retired my 2017 Honda rarely leaves the Garage. My home is 100 % brick.
1,100 Sf to be exact. They went up 36% on my Car insurance and we are senior citizens with spotlessl driving records. I have never had a claim against my Home owner insurance. That increased 65 %. Its nothing but price gouging. I went with AARP and they linked me with the Hartford Insurance company.
These insurance companies dont want to writeun FlA anymore. They are ejecting all risk
Insurance industry better be careful - people will drop coverage altogether. NC just proposed a massive hike and the entire state is freaking pissed!!!!!!
Unless you have a mortgage insurance is not required.
Probably a 100K+ roof replacement for the insurance company next wind storm event when she files for roof replacement of original 120 year old roof using same materials
They did this to me it was not that big,but a $400.00 increase . I couldn’t pay my utilities.I did ask them to shop around,they did.I think if you just pay the increase they will just increase it again.Three times in one year.
Of all of the things we neednto regulate, insurance is definitely one of them. My company increased my rates 40 percent 3 years in a row. I called a new company and got it for WAY less! Never made a claim in over 10 years.
Umm, how much are the quotes from other companies?
If you OWN your home, stop paying insurance and setup a Rainy day savings account where you put what you would pay the Premium. Inside of 5 years, you'll have enough money saved that you can put it in a Money Market investment where you can be making more money than interest, and further increasing you Rainy Day Fund. If you live in a HOA, well that's your mistake, and you may be FORCED to carry insurance, in which case, if you can, sell your house and move to a NON-HOA home!
I want the rest of the country to pay my insurance bills….do it now!
They are
The legislature should at least establish annual percentage caps on rate increases to ensure companies aren't gouging the homeowners. Insurance is suppose to be a risk borne by both parties, the insurance company and the homeowner. This just reinforces for me that the one word that best describes the people in this country is "GREEDY" as we see that to be true more and more (from the politicians in power to the minimum wage earners demanding higher hourly rates). Every economic mistake results in a cascading affect that will impact all of us!
I don't live in Florida. My insurance has nearly doubled in two years. My agent blames the big payoffs from Florida hurricanes for my increases. Nice that I subsidize these people.
Feel same way I'm in same boat live way north
Gee, it makes me wonder if the Florida law makers are in bed with the insurance companies……??
Ya think getting bad allover not just down there
I've seen other news about Slide insurance. They apparently are an over-the-top company hoping to make a killing on homeowners who cannot possibly afford their insurance. Homeowners are having to find other insurance coverage if they have to keep it. But if you have paid off your home, or as I understand have paid over 20% you no longer need insurance. I dropped mine this last week because I paid my home off two years ago, along with a rental. The rental will be reduced to liability only, for slip and falls or accidents on the property and not on the house itself. The house is still there, built in 1947. Shop around, don't give up. Just spend a few days on the phone if that's what it takes, to get the lowest insurance you can. Talk to your mortgage company and see who they recommend.
How can you have a 120 year old house with its original roof? Anyway, get the hell out of Florida to avoid this.
I've seen other videos where people dropped their home-owners insurance entirely in Florida. Instead, they save each month what a normal insurance bill would be and have a nest egg in case there is something they really need for the house. That way they can still afford to live in their house. If a storm destroys it then I suppose they would be homeless. So, become homeless now or take a chance on becoming homeless later.
Whoa! My 3200sf house in sacramento is only 1,800 a year. Talk about gouging
I pay 180 a year for one appartement.
@@martinanderko9893on your renter's. But rent is same as homeowners mortgage, taxes insurance and maintenance are included in rent. That's why there's been rent hikes across the board.
Get another quote. Is there only 1 insurance company in Florida? Slide over to another company. It's not difficult.
Lmfao 🤣. Florida can’t sink into the ocean fast enough. What a disgusting swamp.
That's more than most folks make!
The roof is 120 years old???
Governor Ron Desantis signed the biggest increase in insurance rates ever no wonder he is a flop in the presidential primary.
Maybe you should elect Hunter Biden as your next Governor. He is great with making CASH.
So if your house is pain off. Drop them and save the money in the bank.
Why do they even bother sending a bill like that. It's just asking for bad publicity. Deservedly so!
Renting is becoming cheaper than owning 😢
As usual, the business problem is turned over to the consumer to get stuck with. And they leave the consumer to chase around and provide the paperwork , which the insurance company is supposed to do.
Doesn’t matter what you do to the house I have all impact door and windows a clean mitagation and 4 point inspection and I just added a new roof last week . When I told them about the roof they said congrats with that you’ll save $9 a yr 😏