Reaction to China Controlling 65% of Lithium ion Battery Production
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Patrick Bet-David Podcast Episode 39. In this clip, Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick and Kai Lode talk about the the future of energy.
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Kai actually understands hell of a lot more than Adam. Good kid
Greetings from Lithuania. I am happy it was mentioned here
On serious THO Kai keep up good work you could tell that you got more comfortable as you spoke
Didn't even read you comment till after I wrote mine but there the same lol. Glad I wasn't alone!
Kai is the real deal. Keep him Pat!
Lithium is not the main component of the Lithium Ion its Nickel or iron. Complete misnomer. Also lithium is an extremely abundant element. Elon Musk even stated it can be extracted from sea water if need be.
Wow
Na is an even more abundant element and new technology batteries using Na-ions replace Li-ions
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Shoutout to Asia for being better businessman. Can’t hate them for that.
Kai, good to see you at the table. Try to forget the fact that your speaking into a microphone. Your comfort will improve drastically. I suspect it's a bit of public speaking anxiety. Killing it already tho yo!
Thays what i was thinking as well. You could see at times he was getting tongue-tied but as he gets more comfortable, he'll shine.
It’s like watching two sons vying for there fathers approval 😜
😂 thought the same
Kai bringing facts!!who’s the other guy???
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Way to go young buck! It took some easing into but you did a great overall job 1st time around! Congrats! Keep pushing toward your bright future man!
That's way lower then I expected. I was least expected 90% from China on batteries. lol
China is also way ahead of Western countries in crypto. Not just adoption but also management and innovation. And crypto is the future of money and wealth.
What cryptos are you speaking of?
@@jasonsharpe9963 Many in the top 100, given that there are over 8,000 of them. I’ve made loads of money buying and selling them.
Im well aware of crypto’s and what they are . Chinas government is very supportive of blockchain technology but not very supportive of the act of actually trading crypto currencies . So in a since , they are ahead of the us while in some cases they lack far behind us .
@@jasonsharpe9963 The grand daddy of money-printing (i.e. the US) couldn’t possibly be ahead of anyone when it comes to the future of money.
@@grahamashe9715couldn’t have said it any better myself . Just remember how much private wealth the us has compared to the rest of the world . The us market for crypto has the ability to be extremely huge and efficient . Acting as if the US doesn’t have a major sway in the crypto market is just plain stupid .
Argentina and Chile are not largely underdeveloped. Americans need to learn more about other countries, not just their own.
Under developed in terms of economy , security , and global trade compared to the rest of the world . South Americans need to learn that not everything said is an insult, just facts .
@@jasonsharpe9963 there is absolutely no way that Chile is underdeveloped using the parameters you mentioned, it is one of the most prosperous and business friendly nations in all of South America. As a matter of fact, Chile is already a developed nation. Argentina has a broad base in exports and a diversified economy. The only major problem has been political stability.
@@KP-us1ld compared to other first world countries , yes chile and Argentina are underdeveloped . Needless to say , they are not third world countries . But when compared to countries such as US , Western Europe , and many Asian countries , Chile would be considered “under developed” in a since .
Nah.. the game is still being played man... everyone loves a comeback
Great content Pat
The key is battery recycling. Something people forget is that batteries like to catch fire and they're other elements more important than lithium that China has cornered the market on
Lithium AA battery holds 3.75 Wh of power, average American household consumes 28.9 kWh daily, delivery 28.9 kWh of energy to the household in AA batteries will require roughly 8500 batteries or 132.5 kilos of batteries every day, in Costco 36pack of Lithium AA batteries costs 56.99$, so to power up average home with AA batteries will cost about 13 430$ daily! Great business plan!
Agree with Kai, I didn't see this episode till the end, thanks fot putting this up.
I appreciate that Paul brought out a solution to the issue that the video addressed. Practical solutions are key to success.
Kai is doing great
Dear Patrick. How do you know that Chile is a bad country to do business with? I agree Bolivia and Argentina, also that Chile is on the way down, but I would not put us on the same level as the other two, yet.
It funny how no one ever talked about western monopolies in trading and China is going to be the future of business and world #1 unfortunately. They have worked hard
Lithium is everywhere America is rich in it. Look at the geothermal plants in California using brine at the salton sea to make energy.(Berkshire Hathaway) Yes brine is rich in lithium. Only companies pulling the lithium are Australian companies setting up hear in the U.S.
honestly lithium is so plentiful but it just needs to be mined. so this isnt really a problem. you can mine it in an environmental way too.
Tesla's new 4680 batteries are mostly composed of nickel Cobalt
you forgot 50% of the battery equation ---- Graphite
Hey guys, don't generalise too much... Chile is definitely not one of the worst countries to do business with. In fact, across Latin America, probably the best or among top 3.
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Lithium-ion and lithium metal cells and batteries are listed as Class 9 Miscellaneous hazardous materials in the U.S. and international hazardous materials (dangerous goods) regulations and are subject to specific packaging, marking, labeling, and shipping paper requirements. We will be creating another hazardous waste that we don't have a way to get rid of it.
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Why not instead of relying on China, make a deal with Australia to import Lithium.. create your own factories in USA or Mexico..
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@@Panda_J1 I think the last guy that tried that is no longer president.. but thanks haha
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Aren't new battery technologies being developed all the time (e.g. solid state) ?
Why are you assuming lithium will keep dominating ?
Cost and supply chain
Chinese lithium ion are generally considered poor quality compared to their Korean counterparts namely LG and Samsung
You are making the assumption that Lithium batteries will not be replaced by a better one. Also, we can choose to not go electric for cars.
Patrick I can see that this is a topic is not your strong suit. You need to get Art Berman on the podcast or for an interview.
These people are so ignorant
Chile is a top notch country in mining.... largest copper mine in the world... one of the most stable economies in the last 40 years....
Even with the lost of transmission, electricity is much more efficient than fossil fuels in tanks because you need to transport them. Pipes for natural gas is the only exception.
Lithium is not the main ingredient in lithium ion batteries.
Chile is actually not that business-unfriendly. US News ranks them similar to Poland, South Korea and Italy
Oh yeah, Adam is in jeopardy with Kai Big shark coming!
You forgot about piedmont in north Carolina. I've see countless videos on it! Tesla is getting lithium there.
Mexico discovered the biggest lithium mine in the world in Northern Mexico
@5:38 I just muted my tablet. Sorry for the noise 😁
😂 I felt like Patrick was talking directly to me as well.
I did the same
This is absolutely great for innovation. This will push US or others will develop alternative technology equal or superior to lithium resources. At the least more efficient mining processes or trade agreements.
nouveau monde graphite....on the toronto stock exchange...you also need graphite.
Our leaders hv been outsmarted by them....
What do you do with all the batteries once they are no longer good
The lithium batter thing only becomes a problem if gasoline cares are removed from the market.
supply and demand along with regulations well ensure that they are removed.
@@TheYaadManShow Yes, and when gas cars are removes, the one who controls the batteries will control the world.
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this is some reprehensible ignorance/surface level research here. chile is not underdeveloped, its regulatory body is in fact overly restrictive. the royalties and stipulation are what makes it hard to do lithium extraction there, especially for foreign companies. apparently, there is no difference between hard rock mines (Australia) and lithium brine deposits (South America), which have different advantages and drawbacks. Australia, with 5+ large mines (Greenbushes, Mt Marion, Pilgangoora, Wodgina, and Mt Caittlin) has the largest lithium mining presence. Chinese rock deposits (namely Jiajika) are remote which makes them hard to exploit, whilst most of their brines (Minmetals Yiliping and Zhabuye) contain high magnesium content which adds to costs of production, not to mention also being remote. If you are interested in big lithium mining companies, the traditional big four (Ganfeng, Albemarle, Tianqi, and SQM) are good to look into, but also feel free to dive into their joint venture companies (e.g International Lithium, Firefinch, Lithium Americas etc, many of which are unheard of and have room for future growth)
Patrick is so damn smart man
All those Resources come from Africa Especially lithium battery trust me they need Africa for everything especially technology
It’s very weird that China gets all of their lithium in Congo but no one is mentioning it
That's why China is moving into Africa. It's really a new form of colonialism. They want those natural resources and throw African countries a bone here and there for it, but trust me they don't really care about Africans they want those minerals to fuel their industry back home.
@Deejay DaVinci only African nation lithium is sourced from is Zimbabwe. Frankly little technology comes from Africa.
@@SerenityScriber Total BS, Congo has the potential to supply some. Australia, Chile and China are the biggest suppliers.
@@JGD185 sure they want resources, it’s all an exchange, no one is going to give any country free.
Which countries cared about Africa? What has the US done there, they only moved since China has been involved. We all know what the Europeans did.
Not seeing the overall picture, THEY are being responsible because they'll need the battery storage. Our inability, outside of Tesla thankfully they are S+ tier; is creating our economic situation.
Tesla has the engineers, and vertical integration, which in the long run is what matters IMO.
Let me tell you a story.
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I hope we solve Nuclear Fusion The Holy Grail Of Energy
With new and improved battery technology always being developed, such as Sodium-ion batteries, china controlling most of Li-ion battery production is a moot point
@Doug Parker Sodium is used instead of lithium in the battery, uses sodium ions as carrier charges instead of lithium ions.
@Doug Parker Na is a much more abundant element than Li, it can even be extracted through electrolysis of molten NaCl (salt). NaCl can be collected from sea water, lakes, rivers, etc., and Na can be mined from the earth as it is combined with other elements too besides NaCl mineral.
@@gman8042 question which government the USA or China will be more able to take advantage of your statement is it the USA who politicians can’t even convict a insurrectionist president or China who will allow subsidies to its state owned companies to explore and innovate with sodium ions I think we both know the answer
Who is charging the batteries? There is much more to the story. So much more. Lol
Nice work ✨🎇🌠
So it seems like those three countries at the top in South America who have the most lithium have a really good opportunity to economize on that resource and create wealth but unfortunately I'm sure those are not capitalist driven countries so their citizens won't benefit from trade
which does more environment damage - batteries or coal?
Adam just met his replacement.
I love you content David.Can You please interview Charleston White?
In Europe, there are a lot of projects to correct this. Also, there a few companies that will rival Tesla in this space. So I would not worry too much
Might that domination be why they are buying lots of land in Africa as well.
Heavy steps Patsy !
"Chy-na" not China.
Lithium battery in the chip
Lol Adam has allot of funny jokes that goes over peoples heads.
He sucks and is a buzzkill on these shows
impeach Adam
Cool story bro
Great job China!
Kai having a rough time reading this one
This was an amazing segment, the South American lithium deposit are very interesting.😳😳😳Will China employ the same strategy in South America, that they have in Africa?
65 % plus of everything is made there i thought
Battery charging also causes losses in electricity.
Idk about a monopoly,90% is.
Bolivia could become the next Saudi Arabia!
Patrick check out ABML stock thats exactly what they do.
You left out China's control of rare earth mining & processing. Um, by my last count China is a fair percentage of the world's population. But if the world has 7.5+ billion people. And China has around 1 billion. And China's only friend is Pakistan. That's still a lot of innovation that can happen outside of China. China hasn't made friends by the actions it's taken.
Lol what! Have you heard of the RCEP trade deal, or the CAI investment deal with Europe, and finally last year there was a vote in the UN about the annexation of Hong Kong China received 53 votes while only 27 countries were against China actions!!
We are not investing in our future, that is huge statement. In addition Ben said, "China has rigged the game". They think in terms of 100 year strategies, we can barely do 4 .😞🇺🇸
Kai makes up a lot of words
Fuel cell
President Trump did warned us. We laughed
Bad news Tesla
Thing is formula 1 is heading towards hydrogen not electric, so alot of development by major companies that mostly drive the direction of the combustion engine is going to be in hydrogen in coming years
Keep Cai, drop Tom...
Don t worry about lithium,see graphene and c60 buckminster fuller predicted it in the 50s usa Pavillion in Montreal exhibit of 67,was a huge carbone structure prophetic
Where's Tom?
This new guy is so much more based than Adam Soy
Hes not new... he the guy typically in the background that pulls up the info on screen.
Yea, thats not good.
Blame the western companies looking for cheap labour to improve profit
USA 🇺🇸 needs to wake 🆙
We have an opportunity to invest in Latin American countries and create a Syndicate of Lithium Reserves. Like OPEC for the Arab countries.
Bolivia 🇧🇴 Chile 🇨🇱 Argentina 🇦🇷 USA 🇺🇸 & Mexico 🇲🇽
Mexico just discovered one of the largest Lithium deposits (4.8 million metric tons) and China 🇨🇳 is trying to invest and stake claim.
Unfortunately South America number 1 trade partner is China plus China is trying to make an effort to vaccinate South America while USA is worrying about the USA America better step it’s game up otherwise the future will belong to China or better yet the CCP
Why trade when you can just take
Im going to assume that kai had to overcome the language barrier when coming to the US but shit he can articulate better than adam.
Patrick, You are assuming that Lithium-based batteries will continue to be the technology of the future. Once a different element is found to be a better replacement for Lithium, Elon will likely run with it and take the lead in battery production. Tesla Energy is not only working on new battery technologies but new power generation as well. Within 10 years we will not only have a new and better battery technology but our vehicles, driving and flying, will likely be producing their own power which decreases or eliminates the need for batteries in those vehicles.
Our government is not capable of taking advantage of your statement look what happen to the cancellation of the keystone pipeline that issue alone will cost Dems votes in the 2022 primaries you gotta remember man our country is ran by lawyers China is ran by engineers!!
Rough off the cuff vibe. Different for this channel.
USA can't always remain the KING forever
how about mexico
Hydrogen is the future