Should ANYONE buy these? Abyss Diana v2 review

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  • @User_not_found_403
    @User_not_found_403 11 місяців тому +14

    Appreciate the unfiltered honest reviews - this is how you build credibility. By not being a shill.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Yep, no shilling here (despite what some will say). Glad you appreciated the review

  • @lukasjanecka9996
    @lukasjanecka9996 Рік тому +50

    I appreciate you dared to be really critical with this one. I find most reviews of high-end products too lenient given the multi-thousand dollar price tags. If the manufacturers charge that much they better deliver quality products in every way.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  Рік тому +18

      I completely agree. Glad you appreciated my approach. I always try to look at who a product WILL be good for, even if I'm not a fan, but these just don't stack up in any way that I can see.

    • @Rockapotamus91
      @Rockapotamus91 11 місяців тому +6

      They don’t usually do it because it can affect the relationship between reviewer and x company. I have a friend who reviews iems and shure ghosted him for leaving a lukewarm review for one of their high end earphones.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +12

      Yep. This is true. I have at least two brands that don't want to give me review products because I have said something negative about their products. In one case, the negativity was just that I thought the particular product was overhyped and that there were better options for the same or less money. I didn't even say the product was bad. 🤷

    • @lukasjanecka9996
      @lukasjanecka9996 11 місяців тому +3

      So basically they punished you for being an actual reviewer.
      That is sad.
      It seems some tech youtubers present themselves as „reviewers“ while in reality they are more of sales representatives. They should have their target audience’s (i.e. consumer’s) best interests at heart but instead they rather cater to the manufacturers to secure steady influx of products so they can keep making „reviews“ so they keep getting money...
      It is so deceptive. I mean I have been lurking in this hobby for several years and even I sometimes struggle to distinguish between actual quality and overhyped products.
      Now imagine how hard it must be for a newcomer to orient themselves in this mixture of honesty and ulterior motives.
      It is not fair.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely! I've had a few products come through where I can only assume certain other reviewers are being swayed (consciously or unconsciously) by affiliate revenue opportunities or something.

  • @edwardbit8225
    @edwardbit8225 11 місяців тому +6

    An honest review,rare these days, frequency reponse is not good, well done for technical insights,looks like you will save a lot of people. a lot of money

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it. I always try to be honest and emphasise both what is good and not good or who a product might suit/not suit. In this case, it was a bit harder to find the pros vs the cons

  • @hartyewh1
    @hartyewh1 11 місяців тому +12

    Happy to hear some actual clear criticism. At times I feel that Lachlan finds everything essentially nice in their own way, but this is a good example of discrimination in the best sense.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      I try to find positives in every product because almost every product has been designed by someone with a clear reasoning for its purpose and design, even if it's not to my tastes. No doubt there are reasons the Dianas are designed and tuned as they are too, but I can't really figure it out in this case

  • @bash3245
    @bash3245 11 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for your honesty and direct review I had a similar experience when I demoed the Abyss I preferred Arya over these. Not many reviewers can dare to so honest so kudos to you and helping potential buyers in making a better decision.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Glad you appreciated my approach. It's one of the reasons I strive to maintain complete independence. I've accepted sponsorship from Linsoul and also get sent products to review, but always under the terms that I can say whatever I need to about them. I'm glad that's appreciated 🙂🙂

  • @marcusbryant2007
    @marcusbryant2007 11 місяців тому +5

    thanks for your honest review, really appreciate it

  • @sjqideez6626
    @sjqideez6626 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this man, keep up the great work

  • @taidee
    @taidee 11 місяців тому +7

    Thanks a lot Lachlan for these reviews, as a person who's found commonality with you in terms of audio gear taste, this means these headphones would definitely feel like a big loss of my money too. Keep it up, we appreciate it.

  • @bernamej
    @bernamej 8 місяців тому

    Clearly among the very best reviewer out there.
    It’s so perfectly described and corresponds exactly what i experienced, but i would have never expressed it so well.
    Thanks a lot and hats off.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      I'm so glad you like my approach! Thanks for letting me know 🙂

  • @planewreck4214
    @planewreck4214 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the advice on the headphones I really appreciate it

  • @neilsnyder7915
    @neilsnyder7915 Рік тому +5

    Appreciate the candor.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  Рік тому +3

      Glad you liked it. I dare say that Abyss will never talk to me again ☹️

    • @frederf69
      @frederf69 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound hopefully they'll take criticism from you and other's positively & improve...🤞

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      They've not responded well to anything negative before, but we can hope

  • @OzSteve
    @OzSteve 11 місяців тому +2

    Wow. What a review....... I LOVED it. I've just started on my head-fi journey (Just bought the Focal MG Pro's and Audeze LCD-3's) While I know it's up to the individual if they like the sound of the cans, a review like this really helps someone like me that doesn't really know what I want/need yet. I think anything over $3K AUD is crazy money to spend on headphones. But in saying that. I no doubt will as I am really enjoying these new cans. I'ver never been one for headphones as I have a good hi-fi system and it's used all the time.
    I owned older Sony's for years. I was happy. But I managed to get a really cheap pair of Hifiman 400i's (older version) and they blew me away. Watching a few reviews online, and you can always tell their preference from the beginning. It's a breath of fresh air seeing a video like this. One thing I'd like to see (either in the video or description box) is what amps/dacs were used. As I am also new to that.
    Please keep up the superb work like this video.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks Steve. I'm glad you found this useful and that you're enjoying your headphone journey.
      As for amps and DACs, I generally use a range of amps and DACs for reviewing so I don't tend to mention specific models unless there is a particular synergy (for better or worse) that I think will help people. Generally, the Chord Hugo TT2 is my reference DAC and amp, but I also regularly use the Schiit Yggdrasil OG DAC, Burson Soloist GT amp, Enleum AMP-23R and Linear Tube Audio MZ3 amp.

  • @Mr1stcat
    @Mr1stcat 10 місяців тому +3

    I tend to stay away from companies like this I've heard to many bad reviews and it seems like they make their headphones expensive just for the sake of selling expensive things

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  10 місяців тому

      That's the impression I've come away with too

  • @ElvenSpellmaker
    @ElvenSpellmaker 9 місяців тому +1

    As someone who has the V2 and quite likes them, it's an interesting review.
    When I first try them vs something like the HD800S I immediately notice the scooped upper mids but it seems to fade after your ears adjust.
    With a strong bass EQ and no seal break they absolutely thump hard right down to deep subbass, they take to EQ well.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  9 місяців тому +2

      EQing will definitely alter them and our ears do adjust over time. As a non-EQ user, these were never going to suit me. I'm glad you're enjoying them though.

  • @aRc11-11
    @aRc11-11 11 місяців тому +7

    Thin, nasal and anemic? Diana needs to make a doctors appointment.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +3

      LOL. I'm not sure a doctor can fix these 🤣

    • @frederf69
      @frederf69 11 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound 🤣🤣

  • @Nuevo_El_Nagual
    @Nuevo_El_Nagual 11 місяців тому +3

    100% Agreed 👍

  • @asan1050
    @asan1050 11 місяців тому +1

    Passion for Sound ThanksMuch for sharing !===

    • @frederf69
      @frederf69 11 місяців тому +1

      hey you've learnt more words, congratulations! ✌😎👍

  • @user-es3hq5zk4e
    @user-es3hq5zk4e 11 місяців тому +1

    great review btw

  • @Jayb2406
    @Jayb2406 11 місяців тому

    When I tried a pair in 2021 my thoughts would line up mostly with this review. I then tried a pair this year with the latest leather ear pads and the vegan bass ported ear pads. Both make a massive difference from the previous version I had tried in 21. Turned what was indeed a bass light slightly off sounding headphone into a beautifully balanced and clear but smooth headphone. The leather pad gives you more information and prat while the vegan pad adds more bass and warms it up even more which is perfect for metal, poor recordings. I ended up buying one from the warehouse sale and selling my Verite and Empyrean as I enjoyed the Diana V2 more and due to weight it was for me a more comfortable headphone once the headband pad was installed.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      That's an impressive shift in sound based on your description! So glad you enjoy them so much now

  • @edwarddodge7937
    @edwarddodge7937 11 місяців тому

    Good review as always. Curious: which amps did you try? Balanced? Unbalanced?

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I used Soloist GT, Enleum AMP-23R, Phonitor XE, maybe others that I'm forgetting too.

  • @heeku_
    @heeku_ 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the fact you are honest, no bs wether its good or bad. I have NO clue how I didnt find this channel with all the reviews I watch.
    I just got the diana v2 today (got them for 1450), paired with the wa7 3rd gen, it was absolute amazing to listen to them. I honestly dont like the new earpads comfort as they are too stiff and they dont seal my ears in the bottom.
    for 1450 they sure worth it they are really awesome. that being said - i wouldnt pay 3500 for them.
    Oh and you earned a new subscriber.
    p.s sennheiser hd280 headband replacement should fit ur diana v2

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Glad you like my approach and also glad that you found setup for the Diana v2 that you love. Thanks for the tip about the headband too!

    • @heeku_
      @heeku_ 11 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound
      looking forward to your future videos, u review all the relevant stuff too, what a great job mate!
      wish you the best!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hope you enjoy what's coming just as much 🙂🙂

  • @Azrael-xl3jl
    @Azrael-xl3jl 11 місяців тому

    Really really nice reviews! I am looking into building a headphone listening corner in my new house and have been researching a lot on many headphones in all price ranges but I cannot decide. I was very interested in the 1266, but the seal issue you mentioned is kind of a deal breaker for me. I am looking for the best experience to play genres such as Trance, Drum n Bass, Dubstep/Chillstep, Lo-fi etc, may I ask what would be your go to headphones for these types of genres nowadays, no matter the price. Thanks!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Glad you like the reviews! I'd probably look at the Meze Elites or the ZMF Calderas for the genres you're describing. Actually, HiFiMan HE1000SE is also worth considering.

    • @Azrael-xl3jl
      @Azrael-xl3jl 11 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound Thanks a lot for you recommendations. I'll make sure to check them out more in detail :)

  • @tonamg53
    @tonamg53 11 місяців тому +1

    Not sure what version of ear pad you got there. They have a newer version pad which is a bit bigger and thicker and it does improve the sound quite a bit and also more comfortable too (I have V2 with both original and the new pads)
    Now they two more newer versions, one is a vegan pad which supposed to soften the over all sound and one with built-in bass port in the pad which supposed to improves the low end (I haven’t try these two yet)
    There are also third parties pad options as well… So apparently you can kinda “pad-roll” with the Diana headphones 🙃

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Yes, I'd heard about some of those pad options. Thanks for the extra info

  • @RamonGarciaPerez
    @RamonGarciaPerez 11 місяців тому

    Hi, the link to the Sennheiser HD 660S review in your recommends table/list points to the Amazon product page instead of the actual review of them

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for letting me know! I'll get that fixed

  • @shaunyweaver1144
    @shaunyweaver1144 7 місяців тому +1

    There have always been some so called audiophiles, that just buy the expensive products because they can . The music lover with a lower budget, will always research the best sounding equipment for price . Simply because they cannot afford to get it wrong . Channels like Passion for sound are so important for trust and advise on audio gear .

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому

      I'm glad you feel that way and that I've been able to help 🙂

  • @joseluishernandezseptien
    @joseluishernandezseptien 11 місяців тому +8

    I have had the Diana V2 twice and my impressions align with yours, Lachlan. I wish Abyss could listen to reviews like yours and honestly just wake up. The tuning is so far behind from the build quality of their headphones... It's a shame... their drivers are incredibly fast... You can do better, Abyss!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for sharing your experiences. It would be nice to see them try a different tuning that's more natural and balanced, but the Diana TC doubled down on the tuning of the V2 and got even worse (IMO)

    • @joseluishernandezseptien
      @joseluishernandezseptien 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Yes, definitely. I never tried the TC, the tuning of the V2 kept me away from moving higher in the Abyss line up. Then, I tried the LCD-5 and found it to be a better alternative to what I was looking for in the Diana V2 form factor.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      That makes so much sense, choosing the LCD-5 over the Diana. The LCD-5 is brilliant!

  • @fez748
    @fez748 10 місяців тому +1

    I kinda wanted these like supposed to be my endgame but you're describing how felt about the focal clear ogs and the diana v2s are told atleast to me the next step. Now im looking at he1k line, meze liric or sony mdr z1r and I'm stuck on which to choose and don't have a bias of open or closed and the only reason audeze isn't in the selection is i don't want to deal with the weight but that can be fear made by reviews of audeze hps.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  10 місяців тому +2

      The HEK SE would be my pick of the options you've mentioned if that's in the mix

    • @fez748
      @fez748 10 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound thank you so much! Going definitely been eyeing them. The he1000 naming scheme gets confusing I almost bought the stealth before I remembered there's and se and stealth😂

    • @jpined14
      @jpined14 10 місяців тому +2

      @@fez748Skip the Diana all together. The guys at Abyss are overconfident in their skills and just market their products to seem like the best.
      The sound still needs a lot of work. Honestly Abyss is a rip off.

  • @jerryhilario9787
    @jerryhilario9787 11 місяців тому +4

    Completely agree with you on this one Lachlan. Absolutely hated the v2s when I auditioned them. Found Some upper mid frequencies absolutely harsh to my ear and not enjoyable at all.
    Not to mention the terrible comfort.
    Joke of a headphone at its asking price. ZMF and Meze Elite are so much better in this price range or even better spend less on a Hi-Fi man Arya stealth.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, all those options make a lot more sense

  • @land_walker
    @land_walker 11 місяців тому +8

    Comfort and some of the tonal problems are fixed by getting the Dekoni Abyss pads. The pads are also cheaper and better than the official pads. I got the V2 open box about a year ago at 2k. I am really happy with them with dekoni pads and an AKG adhesive headband pad. Also, HD 700 cables work on these and you don't have to spend the crazy prices for official cables.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +2

      Those are all excellent tips. Thanks for sharing

    • @thor8334
      @thor8334 7 місяців тому +1

      This shouldn’t be the case for 3,5 thousands

    • @cancerparty
      @cancerparty 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thor8334 yeah, but the dude's saying it's a good deal at 2k. I got mine for 1.4k and got Dekoni pads which were only £50. That's great value. But agreed, I wouldn't pay RRP for them.

  • @dmarcus1260
    @dmarcus1260 11 місяців тому

    I wanted to love the Abyss Diana v2. The design of the headphones is still my favorite. Unfortunately the sound signature, especially the midrange is too shouty/wonky to my ears. That said, I thought the Diana TC would make up for it. Initially I did like the Diana TC, especially the sparkle in the treble. But after each subsequent listening session the sparkle was less noticeable being taken over by the shouty/wonky midrange similar to the v2. Abyss hinted that I might be experiencing a hearing loss. True I don't hear the upper frequencies like I did in my younger days. But there is no way my hearing changed so dramatically. Besides the results from my previous hearing test, before I purchased the Diana TC, is the same.

    • @coardcreatif
      @coardcreatif 8 місяців тому

      Did they tell you you have a hearing loss? LMAO. They share freq graphs on their website now so you can see if you can't hear.

  • @B8THOV3N
    @B8THOV3N 11 місяців тому +2

    I tried all their headphones at a show. But their headbands just won’t fit on my head in order for the ear pads to fit properly. Regardless of how good or what fault they have on sound, their biggest fault is the headband for me. I even talked to one of their head staff. He said there’s nothing they can do about the fit of the headband and ear pads for my case.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Yep, the ergonomics are pretty dreadful ☹️

  • @davidelmquist8670
    @davidelmquist8670 8 місяців тому +1

    Waiting for the diana MR!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      It'll be interesting to see how they've approached the tuning on that one. The speed of tuning revisions is a touch concerning though for me.

  • @j_505
    @j_505 11 місяців тому +5

    I was originally looking into Diana’s….. but ended up going Utopia 2022.

  • @coardcreatif
    @coardcreatif 8 місяців тому +1

    Now they released Diana MR. Which some youtubers states it's new LCD-6. Some say it's just as bad as V2. Please get your hands on it.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      I'll see what I can do. I doubt Abyss will be sending them to me 🙂

    • @coardcreatif
      @coardcreatif 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PassionforSound At 3.2K i guess i won’t risk it and go for open box Expanse.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      I'd definitely look elsewhere, especially at that price. It just makes no sense to me for the money.

  • @Feastalisk
    @Feastalisk 7 місяців тому +1

    I have no issue with comfortability on this at all. Diana V2 + Questyle QP1R was my end-game combo, but I never tried other flagship cans 😃

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому +1

      Comfort will always be as subjective or more subjective than tuning/tonality I think. I'm glad you like them!

  • @TheGreatMrBill
    @TheGreatMrBill 11 місяців тому

    Well I thought they had a really wonky midrange when I first got them. I had to get the bass ported velour pads for them and it fixed all those issues. Also, if I had paid 3,500 I would have sent them back. But luckily these have been priced at 1,800 directly through Abyss in their "found in warehouse sale" for over a month now. Surprised you didn't mention that (unless this vid is a repost). And at 1,800 there is nothing else out there that can touch their technicalities, that I have found anyway. Especially once you have the right pads on them. They are a steal at that price. They are among the most comfortable to wear out of my 40 HPs. I suppose comfort is different for everyone. I would have agreed 100 on everything you said at the 3500 price. But half price changes everything for me now ; )

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I record some videos (like this one) way ahead of time, especially when they are product loans from a viewer or patron. At the time of the review, these were still full price.
      I'm so glad you got them at a price that makes them more appropriately valued and that you're enjoying them so much!

  • @syanhc
    @syanhc 11 місяців тому

    Hi there? Curious if you'll be getting your hands on the Woo Audio Tube Mini dongle. I'd love to see a review on that! Pretty unique product....

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      I don't currently have access to Woo products, but I'll try to look into getting access for the dongle and their tube amps

    • @syanhc
      @syanhc 11 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound what about Cayin Tube amps such as at HA1 mk 2

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I'm not sure who distributes Cayin over here. I'll have to check...

  • @hanaemori7599
    @hanaemori7599 11 місяців тому

    i pair this diana v2 with my cayin idac 6 mk2 & iha6 and it blow me away , it's sound really crisp and low is good enough ,it is lovely piece of headphone

  • @frederf69
    @frederf69 11 місяців тому +2

    Amir at ASR didn't recommend the v2 either & personally for the money they are a rip off.
    thanks for your honest review ✌😎👍

  • @brandonburr4900
    @brandonburr4900 11 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how much these are tuned around the Xi (formula, Broadway, ppwerman, etc) family of amps and dacs that abyss recommends for their headphones. Perhaps others can chime in to see is the synergy helps ? Be curious to see if abyss would comment or respond bust guessing not. Thanks for your honest take! Meze elite would be a great option !

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +2

      If those amps are so coloured as to make the Dianas sound natural, I'd be worried about the amps.

    • @brandonburr4900
      @brandonburr4900 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound it also puzzles me that they have a dcs bartok and some have claimed that is a good pairing with their headphones but were talking $20k for the headphone edition. Though A full stack of Xi is pushing $10k. I haven't head any of abyss stuff myself so I will reserve judgment. I was close to buying a Diana once. Went the audeze route instead. Thanks !

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Sounds like you made a good decision 🙂

    • @brandonburr4900
      @brandonburr4900 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound I think I did with my first pair of audeze lcd 2021 editions and than for some reason I saw a pair of lcd 4 and had to try them. Are they better ? So far yea. Not wowing me like the lcd x so far. Not 4 times better for sure. Perhaps I'm not driving them to their fullest but I'm using them with audeze Deckard class a amp dac that puts out 4 watts per channel. I bought that cheap and on a whim. One of my best purchases as it does provide some desktop ppwer and the dac (not sure what it is as audeze doesn't say) is very underrated. And as a bonus it can power powered monitors I think. They are discontinued and older but perhaps you should pick one up to review for the channel. I was surprised how well it has sounded with other headphones like my sennheiser hd650 and ether flow open 1.1 from Dan Clark. Thank you !

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I've always wanted to try the LCD-4, but as yet have never had the opportunity

  • @AsreiMurasame
    @AsreiMurasame 9 місяців тому +1

    They say the new Diana MR has less distortion and is closer paired to the harm curve than the previous. So I'm curious to see how the Diana MR's performance comes out.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      That's interesting. I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to try them, but we'll see...

    • @AsreiMurasame
      @AsreiMurasame 8 місяців тому +1

      I have a pair on order but, it may be a while before they ship. I'm curious as to how they'll stand up against my favorite headphone the Dan Clark Expanse. We'll see!@@PassionforSound

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Drop back in and let us know 🙂

    • @AsreiMurasame
      @AsreiMurasame 8 місяців тому +1

      I found out what is causing the delay on the shipping they ran out of the cases for the Diana and said that it could be 2-3 weeks before they get more cases in. I might be able to get it shipped sooner though, just without the case@@PassionforSound

    • @coardcreatif
      @coardcreatif 8 місяців тому +1

      i'm waiting to hear your experience as well. @@AsreiMurasame

  • @jsharp9735
    @jsharp9735 11 місяців тому +4

    This company markets to people who expect expensive things to be the best......lol. Abyss means low-fi for hi-price. They are flawed and they don't care. Always new customers new to audio that will think price equates to "best". I'm sure abyss thinks you need another multi thousand dollar amp/dac setup and drop a few thousand on some of the BS cables to really unlock the sound.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      They do recommend some expensive gear to pair with their headphones, but I don't know if that's necessarily bad because headphones like the 1266 (not so much the Diana) will benefit from higher quality sources.

  • @rhodey2952
    @rhodey2952 11 місяців тому +1

    I really like mine, pretty fun IMO. Not perfect but solid for the price, I paid (1.7k). I don’t think I’d be pleased paying 3.5k.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Yeah, at 1.7K it's a bit of a different equation 🙂
      Glad you're enjoying them

  • @karolkedzierski5824
    @karolkedzierski5824 11 місяців тому +4

    Great honest review. Ive heard them and for me they sounded like trash. I wouldnt pay for them 100 bucks. You can get a pair of iems that cost >50 bucks and they will have a better tonal balance. Its a joke actually.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      I do agree that the tonal balance is pretty off (at least to my ears). Glad you liked the review.

  • @Izlude99
    @Izlude99 8 місяців тому +1

    I find it incredibly curious that reception towards Abyss headphones has been all over the place. The reviewer seems to favour warmer and softer sound signature so I don’t think Abyss will do it for him.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Yes, they are a very divisive tuning. Just because I favour a warmer aound though doesn't mean I can't appreciate a non-warm tuning (see my reviews of the Arya Organic & Ananda Nano, LCD-5, and Utopia 22 coming up). For me, the issue is the lack of tonal balance in the Abyss tunings where they over-emphasise certain frequencies and become distracting / unnatural as a result.

  • @edosan1068
    @edosan1068 10 місяців тому +3

    abyss is one of those rare companies that have their head so far up their ass, the more you find out about them, the less you'd like them. At least that was my experience. Their youtube channel really didn't do them any favors. Their interaction just reeks of snobiness. Iono who they think their target audience is, because according to them, you'd need like a 10k chain to enjoy their headphones properly. The way they price their accessories is asinine, and judging most of the reviews out there. They make headphones for themselves in the worst way. It's like they made a headphone that only sounds good with the setup they have, listening to the tracks they listen to. If you're not, you're out of luck. I also remember when the v2 were like around 2k, which made them at least intriguing. At its current price, it's a hard no for me.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  10 місяців тому

      Yes, I have some major reservations about them too

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 11 місяців тому +2

    A swing and a mess I think I’ll stay with my 650s until I can save up for something nice from Meze’s or the Calderas or any one of the others that you mentioned great video and as a fellow bearded man from Australia good on ya’
    🍕🥓🤦‍♂️🍕🔥

  • @beefsupreme510
    @beefsupreme510 11 місяців тому +5

    I heard a pair of these at a friends house & was not impressed at all. They sounded boring to me. My friend ended up selling them about a week later lol

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, that's about how I find them too.

  • @thor8334
    @thor8334 7 місяців тому +1

    I always heard great things about this headphone but i was never drown to them.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому

      They have a unique and enjoyable sound, but they're not going to be for everyone.

    • @thor8334
      @thor8334 7 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound i think i’ll be in high end munich this year so if they have a stand i’ll give them a try.

  • @IDFTY
    @IDFTY 11 місяців тому +1

    I had a chance to try out this headphone a year ago, and I can clearly remember the satisfaction in my mind. Right now, I'm using the HD660S, and I hope that one day I can achieve this big baby with a proper setup!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Glad you got to try them for yourself. That's always the best way to find out what you will like. Good luck getting your setup!

  • @musicxxa6678
    @musicxxa6678 11 місяців тому +1

    Considering now the HEK $1400, HEKse $1999, these headphones do look expensive.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Great point! I'd take HEKSE every time over these

  • @jamesthoma4927
    @jamesthoma4927 11 місяців тому +5

    As the owner of all of these Abyss models plus at least a dozen more flagships from Hifiman to Audeze to Empyrean I could not disagree with you more. I have no idea how your experience is so different but I guess we all hear differently and feel differently. I am really puzzled.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I can only assume that it's hearing differences because I'm equally as puzzled by those who like these so much. 🤷🙂

    • @wsy2569
      @wsy2569 11 місяців тому +2

      At a recent Canjam I tested all the Hps from the Warwick Aperio, LCD5, CBRN, Final Audio D9000pro, the Italian Spirit Torino, Dan Clarkes, etc. I came away with the opinion , Sound source and the Hp equipment chain made a big impact on the final sound of the Hp!
      I liked the D9000 pro drivem by a MSB digital chain and the LCD CRBN.
      So personal tastes are v v dufferent , I guess?
      I found the Warwick Aperio Slightly boring!
      😂
      I will stick with my Abyss 1266 phi/cc (2nd hand for less thsn 2000 usd) for the moment until I find a CRBN on the used mkt

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      No doubt the source chain can make a difference, but I've also never heard a source chain take a headphone from unenjoyable to enjoyable so much as taking it from good to great or bad to worse.

    • @OldDirtyRobot
      @OldDirtyRobot 10 місяців тому

      The bogan is trying to differentiate in a space full of headphone reviewers. Understandable.

  • @paulok2153
    @paulok2153 11 місяців тому +1

    blimey mate tell it like it is! I am well out of that price league anyway.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, I was pretty blunt on this one 🙂

  • @Michael_mki233
    @Michael_mki233 11 місяців тому +6

    The biggest issue with Abyss, from everything that I've been able to glean from talking to others, is that they are heavily source dependent. If you don't like what they offer out of the box, and there are people that do, you have to get the right amp to even out that wonky mid-range that's present in all of their headphones. Otherwise you are going to be disappointed. So if you aren't willing to "chase the dragon", as they say, then there are much better options than Abyss for the price.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +3

      Based on my experience with the 1266 and two Diana versions, you'd need a heavily coloured amp to fix the tonal accuracy of these

    • @wsy2569
      @wsy2569 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Actually I disagree.. in my system .. I took power conditioning to the extreme and use a pair of Mosfet class A 30watt monobloc amps to drive them . A touch of EQ to add a slight bass shelf and lift at lower mids ! Result is a very very smooth even freq response and tonality! The Abyss Hps with the ultrs detail will show up distortion in the source and signal purity! That is why they can sound funny ! EQ i think not critcal but does help to smooth out the SQ! At the end of the day they are still a pair of hp with an exciting SQ tuning ! Obviously not for everyone!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      I think the EQ factor is the key here. I review everything without EQ because you can ultimately EQ most headphones to achieve a tonality you want, but I don't like to EQ and I know many others who don't as well (I'm not saying EQ is wrong, just that some don't like to use it). So, what you're describing here isn't really the amps fixing the headphones, it's the EQ fixing the headphones while being driven by some nice amps.

    • @wsy2569
      @wsy2569 11 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound SQ w/o EQ is to my liking too! Your commeny abt highly colored amps is too biased and wrong

    • @wsy2569
      @wsy2569 11 місяців тому

      At the end of the day is personal SQ preferences ! Good Day to all😀

  • @darrellross8609
    @darrellross8609 11 місяців тому +1

    L, I have the Zeos modded Ghost for just over $300. They make everything sound perfect. Best, D.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      I've got the Ghosts in at the moment and I honestly don't get the hype. They're fine, but the 109 Pro parallels are a bit of a stretch to me. Glad you're enjoying them though - not saying you shouldn't, just commenting on the degree of hype around them.

    • @darrellross8609
      @darrellross8609 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound L, Your still my hero...! D.

  • @TheVeganVicar
    @TheVeganVicar 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm surprised that the headband is made of leather, because Abyss have produced a vegan earpad for this product, so it seems superfluous. :(
    Anyway, I think I will be getting a pair of high-end HiFiMan, judging by the reviews I've been watching over the past couple of months.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, I'd be going HiFiMan for sure.
      As for the headband, perhaps I am wrong about the materials. The underside might be Alcantara which is man-made I think, but the top surface does look and feel like leather.

    • @TheVeganVicar
      @TheVeganVicar 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound, thanks for the clarification, Lachlan!

  • @dasninjastix
    @dasninjastix 11 місяців тому +1

    You know, when HiFiMan has better ergonomics than you.. it's probably time to bring in some outside help. Comfort doesn't have to be expensive either, Meze Neos are one of the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn for 200. I'm so confused with that headband. How does that make it into the final design? I think it's actually a good thing that Abyss has their own sound however wonky some people find it, clearly other people like it just fine, fine enough to keep buying new iterations of the Diana. There's always going to be a taste/preference barrier and how a headphone may perform could come down to various synergies and of course what you choose to listen to but man.. that's just not a welcoming form factor. If I spend over 3 grand a set of cans I want to be able to listen to them (effortlessly) all day. There's just much, much cheaper headphones that have solved this problem, and what good is all the detail retrieval and resolution in the world if it hurts to wear? Well hopefully they're open to the criticism, I have a feeling the more obnoxious negative comments sour the folks at Abyss with being more receptive to feedback. But this is definitely a video they should watch. I'd consider buying one of their headphones, wonk and all, if it were sublimely comfortable.

  • @Berkanann
    @Berkanann 11 місяців тому +4

    It seems, the Caldera has dethroned your Elite. Is that fair to say? :)

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, generally speaking. I'd say it's about 70% / 30% headtime towards the Caldera. The Elites still do some things better though (like soundstage depth)

    • @Berkanann
      @Berkanann 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Have you tried the new angled pads on the Elite? To me it is a definite improvement.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Not yet. I'm waiting on a pair to arrive at the local distributor.

    • @Martijn1234
      @Martijn1234 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound I still preferred the Hybrids as the Angled thin out the bass a little much for me but they create a pleasant airier sound. Although they are not for me I can definately see how some people prefer them. I also found them the most comfortable Meze pad available. I will be interested to hear your thoughts on them.

    • @Berkanann
      @Berkanann 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound I would be curious to hear your thoughts on them. To me they give more focus, clarity and depth to the Elite.

  • @nikolaygramchev
    @nikolaygramchev 11 місяців тому +1

    Pity

  • @user-es3hq5zk4e
    @user-es3hq5zk4e 11 місяців тому +5

    abyssmal...

  • @willr6793
    @willr6793 11 місяців тому +2

    Honestly this was one of the worst headphones I've come across at any price point. I realize there's a bit of subjectiveness but there's nothing even above average for the Diana minus the build itself. I grabbed a pair and thought everyone was just hating because of the company until I actually got them and compared them to the Aryas.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, I tend to agree. They're a headphone that I don't think I'd buy for any price, but they definitely seem to really suit some people so subjectiveness, personal preferences and personal hearing differences will always be a factor

    • @willr6793
      @willr6793 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PassionforSound To me it's almost a litmus test for reviewers. The Diana v2 to me sounds like a bad 400-500$ headphone and I paired it with multiple setups (including one they recommended). I legit feel bad for anyone who blind buys them because they're going to either learn how horrible it is or even worse, convince themselves it sounds ok.

  • @tylerbeaty
    @tylerbeaty 5 місяців тому

    While I appreciate the honest review - Why did you not take the 5min to research the materials for the headphone?

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  5 місяців тому

      Which materials are you referring to? Did I get something wrong?
      The reason I don't research on detail is that I focus on the parts that I think will make a significant difference to sound quality, comfort and durability. Anything beyond that would add time to the review process and review duration without adding any value for viewers.

  • @syanhc
    @syanhc 11 місяців тому

    PS. Love the beard. Next...it's flares....

  • @TheMaurob1979
    @TheMaurob1979 11 місяців тому +2

    Glad i ve deleted Valour subscibe channell.. Becouse he only takes in consideration american products..included abyss.. Not fair.. I really like your reviews Lachlan..

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +2

      Glad you like my reviews. You can always watch both of us, but if you're only going to choose one, thanks for making it me! 🙂🙂

    • @TheMaurob1979
      @TheMaurob1979 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSoundno doubt i choose you over him..

  • @Rockapotamus91
    @Rockapotamus91 11 місяців тому +2

    That headband must be a joke for 3k

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Some extra padding certainly wouldn't have gone astray

  • @towsifshahriarshovo
    @towsifshahriarshovo 11 місяців тому +1

    As a 3.5k headphone fr looks quite bad.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Yes. I'm rarely one to recommend making any decisions based on FR measurements, but on this occasion I do think they sound about as bad as they look

  • @MistaLova-Lova
    @MistaLova-Lova 11 місяців тому +1

    Guys, Hifiman HE1000se is currently going brand new for USD 2,000 on their website... And judging by this review, it'd eat the Diana for breakfast. 🙂It's certainly chewed up and spat out most of my headphones, only the Utopia is putting up a fight (the two complement each other well, though).

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      Yep, the HEKSE is as much headphone as many people will ever need. At that price, it's a steal

  • @bonanzabrandon6877
    @bonanzabrandon6877 11 місяців тому +1

    Isn't this like Josh Valour's favorite headphone ever

  • @rags015
    @rags015 10 місяців тому +1

    No! No one should buy these. Abyss is clearly running a scam operation. For $3000, you get a cheap looking shitty headphone in a meh bag. The company has also touted exorbitantly priced cables as audio nirvana. Avoid Abyss!!
    My trust in you and your channel has shot up one thousand fold! Thank you for speaking the truth. Three cheers! Hip! Hip! Hurray!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad you liked the honesty. That's always my intention 🙂

    • @jpined14
      @jpined14 10 місяців тому +3

      Have you owned one? They’re anything but cheap looking or feeling.
      Are they a rip off! Yes; the sound is terrible.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  10 місяців тому +1

      That's a good point. They don't actually look or feel cheap.

  • @SkywhiteChannel
    @SkywhiteChannel 11 місяців тому +1

    If this guy doesn’t like something that means I’ll like it. When he says it’s amazing it probably sucks.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому +1

      Lol. I used to be a bit like that with Tyl from Innerfidelity. What matters most is that you can predict if you'll like it or not so I'm glad there's consistency!

  • @lextr3110
    @lextr3110 11 місяців тому +2

    Overpriced crap, not even worth 300$

  • @yourchildrensghost9736
    @yourchildrensghost9736 27 днів тому +1

    The answer is No, no one should buy these headphones.

  • @kevintj604
    @kevintj604 11 місяців тому +3

    While I appreciate the honesty and love your reviews I wholeheartedly disagree with you. The Diana V2 is one of the world’s best headphones. We completely disagree with you preferring the Sendy Peacock over the Susvara and now the trend continues with the Diana.
    The Diana V2 is also $1700 right now with the warehouse sale.

    • @lextr3110
      @lextr3110 11 місяців тому +2

      Ahah just look at the response curve... its crap

    • @kevintj604
      @kevintj604 11 місяців тому

      @@lextr3110 I don’t listen to music with an FR curve. You probably haven’t even heard the Diana V2. Opinions like this without real world experience is nonsense.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I don't recall ever saying that I think the Peacock is better than the Susvara. Those headphones are in completely different price tiers.
      No problems that you disagree with me about the Diana v2, but calling it one of the world's best headphones seems a stretch to me.

    • @kevintj604
      @kevintj604 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound In your Headphone Tier list 2022 you ranked the Sendy Peacock higher than Susvara. Obviously we share a different opinion on what we like in headphones and that’s okay. The Abyss Diana may not be for you. For my ears the Sendy Peacock was easily one of the worst headphones I’ve heard and you love them so we might just hear things differently. With you ranking the Peacock higher than Susvara and Verite Closed makes me think we don’t agree at all in what we both consider good sound. And that’s okay. Hobby is very subjective.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  11 місяців тому

      I understand what you mean now. To be clear, I wouldn't say to others that the Peacock is a better headphone than Susvara so it's not like I'm recommending the Peacocks over Susvara, but I would recommend either of those two over the Abyss Diana. As you say though, it's all subjective and we definitely do all hear things a bit differently because we all have slightly different ear anatomy.