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  • Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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  • @fatdoi003
    @fatdoi003 8 місяців тому +10

    not often YT reviewers do classical stuffs and if you can do regular segments on classical recommendations that will be great

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +2

      I'll see what I can do. I've started trying to include more classical references in my test tracks used during reviews so hopefully that will be something.

    • @CrashTestingAudio
      @CrashTestingAudio 8 місяців тому +2

      Additional option for Mono - Rafael Kubelik, Dvorak Symphony no. 9 - Mercury Records.

    • @niemand7811
      @niemand7811 6 місяців тому

      @@PassionforSound That was a weird kind of review. What criteria were important? How is sounds on your headphones? I listen to music via a high end stereo equipment and would not encounter the same issues you describe on some recordings.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  5 місяців тому

      As I said in the video, each album was considered for its ability to demonstrate the capabilities of an audio system so it's all the things I discussed in the video: resolution, staging, tonal qualities, etc.
      As for using headphones, I think I discussed at the beginning of this video that I tried both speakers and headphones and found that the headphones provided more insight to the recordings without losing any awareness of what the speaker performance would sound like.

  • @neilsnyder7915
    @neilsnyder7915 8 місяців тому +5

    Loved this. Added 6 albums to my library for tonights listening. Do more of these.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Brilliant! I'll be glad to. Any specific genre you'd like explored next?

    • @Yeastextract
      @Yeastextract 7 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSoundfilm scores!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому

      Already in progress. Check the Community tab on my channel page for a link to the survey where you can submit your suggestions.

  • @demokraken
    @demokraken 8 місяців тому +3

    That's just fantastic, thank you. Less gear, more music.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      The gear reviews tend to help the channel grow more, but hopefully I can strike a nice balance. 🙂

  • @jgsburnett9532
    @jgsburnett9532 8 місяців тому +4

    A very brave undertaking and extremely well done. Congratulations. A point of interest I would like to add is about the Living Stereo recording. That recording (from the 1950's) is special in a particular way. The technique used for Living Stereo is to try to capture the orchestra in a completely natural way. For that only TWO microphones were used. There is no multi mike use, no mixing afterwards. What you get is a sound photo of the orchestra exactly as it was placed on the stage. Interestingly you heard something a little different. I think that is because you used headphones. I think headphones often give a false perspective of the sound stage. I don't know why but I have noticed it several times. For large orchestral works speakers win every time - unless it is a binaural recording specially recorded for headphone use. I use Sennheiser HD800S and Quad (not electrostatic) speakers. I really think it is valuable to include some classical tracks when evaluating equipment especially if you understand what you are listening to and it is clear that you do.

    • @CrashTestingAudio
      @CrashTestingAudio 8 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, I love that series, along with the Mercury recordings of the same era. While those are often Mono, what you get is a larger range with extra-deep bass - perfect for rumbling tympani.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the info about the Living Stereo recording. I have another of theirs (I can't recall the album) that I listen too quite often and really enjoy because it provides exactly what you describe - a sonic picture of the orchestra. I wonder why the album in this video sounded off in the imaging? Headphones work great on the other recording I have so I don't think it's the headphones alone (although they might be revealing more than the speakers due to the more extreme placement of sounds when the stage is all contained around the listener's head)

    • @gbmwaz
      @gbmwaz 5 місяців тому +1

      I can't stand listening thru headphones

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  5 місяців тому

      That's fair enough. You're not alone

  • @paulok2153
    @paulok2153 8 місяців тому +2

    Cracking video mate, its a keeper. I am always interested in exploring classical. Will check out some of these for sure.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Fantastic! I'm so glad you liked it. 🙂🙂

  • @asplmn
    @asplmn 8 місяців тому +4

    Trying the ZMF Verite Open… I think the VO may be the best pair of cans I’ve heard with classical! It just does something that makes it sound “real,” as opposed to chasing that last 0.5% of micro-details like LCD-5, Susvara, etc.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes. The VOs are lovely with classical.

  • @shanestephenson8423
    @shanestephenson8423 8 місяців тому +4

    Great video, Lachlan. I like these kinds of videos.🎧👍🙂

  • @alexYT87462
    @alexYT87462 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome format. Awesome insights. Lot's learnt from watching this. Thank you and keep up the most excellent work. A similar video on some great jazz albums would be great. 👌

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому

      I'm glad you liked it! I've just posted a survey in the community tab of this channel to gather jazz suggestions. Check it out if you have anything to add. I'd love to hear from you.

  • @brucejohnson7615
    @brucejohnson7615 8 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video and content. Would love to see more of this theme.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it! Any particular music genre you'd like next?

  • @dans03
    @dans03 9 місяців тому +2

    Very much appreciate this channel and have joined you on Patreon. Not a lot of "classical music through headphones" information out there, so am happy to see this format. That said, I may be in the minority here on YT. Orchestral Music presents challenges for headphone listening. Congestion is a primary issue, as is that"wall odf sound" you referred to. I have always found DG to present a less than optimal digital recording. Great on LP, but for both LP and digital, Decca is generally top quality as is Naxos, Reference Recordings, Sony,Wilson Audio and Telarc to name a few. Choral and big Opera can also be overwhelming in the headphone world - lot of information going on there,
    I would love to see a soundtrack recommendation video, if this concept gets enough traction. Thanks again for all your excellent work.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much for your support and for sharing your experiences with classical on headphones and the recordings in general!
      I think a soundtrack video could be cool too. 🙂

  • @TimpTim
    @TimpTim 8 місяців тому +2

    Glad my suggestion was helpful, and that you enjoyed it! I like this format, as well.

  • @tonywilkins1684
    @tonywilkins1684 8 місяців тому +1

    I thought I’d throw in a surprise album I recently heard on ABC classic radio, “Joseph Tawadros live at the Sydney Opera House”. I’d never heard him before chancing in the ABC broadcast and I now recommend it as a go to test album… dynamic, extremely well recorded, tonally demanding on the equipment.
    Looking forward to your Jazz views Lachlan thanks
    Tony

  • @bryanherr1093
    @bryanherr1093 8 місяців тому +3

    This was excellent. A jazz album would be fun too. Thanks much!

  • @hk3d
    @hk3d 8 місяців тому +2

    thanks very much. Please have more similar videos in future.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for letting me know your liked it! I'll do another one soon and see how it goes...

  • @mattcavanough
    @mattcavanough 8 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video, many thanks! It was exactly what I was hoping for including what worked well and what didn't and why. I'd love to see a soundtrack score review please.😊 That looks like my recommendation you had there on Zubin Mehta's take on the original Star Wars score.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Matt. Looks like you'll be first cab off the rank in the next one because I'll do film scores next.

  • @danieljohnson6370
    @danieljohnson6370 8 місяців тому +1

    I find it interesting that your explicit goal here was to find tracks that assist in the assessment of gear. I think this may reflect the recording techniques of the track more than the performers, composer, room, or instruments.
    I know many earlier stereo recordings only used two mics, but many modern orchestral recordings will use *many* mics to get "closer" to the instruments to reveal nuances that the room (or symphony hall) would purposefully blur to improve the unification of the instruments. It's interesting to me that modern listeners seem to prefer the trees over the forest when seeking recordings (I'm frequently guilty of this). As a former orchestral musician, i have to admit that i enjoy the sound onstage (or orchestral pit) over that from the audience, BUT, as a bassist, i find i greatly prefer the sound from one side of the stage more. This may just be due to having spent so many years living there, so I've got baggage i can't let go of...
    Thanks for the content! Always!
    Film/television scores may suit your needs more due to the more technical nature of the presentation rather than striving to reproduce a live performance of "art music". HTH!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think there's a perfect balance point (for me at least) where the orchestra does sound like a single entity in that it's not artificially separated, but where there's also a clear sense of space and size to the stage. When the instruments are too distinctly.placed in space, it becomes unnatural and distracting to me.
      It's really interesting that you've developed a taste (comfort perhaps?) hearing the sounds that you're more familiar with from your time in the orchestra.

    • @danieljohnson6370
      @danieljohnson6370 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound You make an interesting point re: taste as developed. I don't listen to nearly as much recorded orchestral music now as i used to hear back when i was a pro. I wonder if my tastes would change if i spent more time in my cans with orchestral music. I know the brain is highly plastic, but i wonder how much developed taste influences our perceptions of what sounds 'good'. This, of course, approaches the rabbit hole of absolute vs relative Goodness philosophies, but i'm certain that different folks can have the same mountaintop experience listening to radically different musics. I just don't really understand why, as of yet.
      Thank you for what you do for us!
      P.S. You may be unaware that some conductors/orchestras arrange the seating differently than what you described in this video, e.g. placing the violas or the 2nd violins on extreme stage left and the celli/bassi more in the middle. Similarly, all bets are off in an orchestra pit, because there's never enough room (even at the NY Metropolitan opera, which has a relatively GIANT pit).
      Do you get to go hear many live performances these days? They're mostly prohibitively expensive for me.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      That's very interesting about the different seating arrangements! I clearly don't listen to enough classical music anymore to be as well versed as I could be 🙂
      Sadly, it's been a while since I went to any live music performance. I need to get back into it again.

  • @jameschandler7440
    @jameschandler7440 8 місяців тому +1

    Went shopping for headphones yesterday. Flicking through my music I ended up stuck in metal when switching headphones. The Gereg by the Hu.
    I'll be sitting down with your recommendations over the next week.

  • @rossmoore7868
    @rossmoore7868 8 місяців тому +2

    As a classical music buff the issue for me with various (even top tier) headphones is timbre. Hence the real test is small instrumental ensembles where the focus is on the individual voices: how do they actually sound? The texture and weight and tone of notes etc. If that is out of whack - from a technical point of view = then issues of spatiality, layering etc. are irrelevant.

    • @Peace_Guard
      @Peace_Guard 8 місяців тому

      Yup, I agree. A planar-wide issue. That's why Auteur Classic or Atrium.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      I agree that tonality has to be correct. I don't agree that it's planar-wide. The Meze Elites with the newer, angled Alcantara pads, HEKSE from HiFiMan, and ZMF Caldera all have excellent timbre IMO that's better than many dynamic driver options.
      In addition to the models listed above, headphones like the Focal Utopia 2022, Meze 109 Pro, Sennheiser HD660 S2 and ETA O2 all do a wonderful job with timbre IMO. The other challenge of course is that we doo all hear a little differently due to the natural resonances of our ears canals being different.

  • @rm-mastering
    @rm-mastering 8 місяців тому +3

    Really really really good, I love this video and I highly rate and recommend you views and opinions, great work indeed. Please give us your recommendations on other genres of music. Thank you indeed....your a legend 😌

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Glad you liked it. I've had a few additional genres suggested, but is there a specific genre you'd like to see next?

    • @rm-mastering
      @rm-mastering 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PassionforSound yes please, I would be very interested in any genre, modern pop. A good example I would like to here from you is your opinion of Lorde - Pure Heroine (track Buzzcut season), at least in my opinion it's very dynamic and good layering with the snare coming forward and going back in the distance, the whole album is good except the first track. Also Goldfrap - album tales of us. Madona - Frozen track had me jumping. These suggestions are for the CD versions as i couldn't get the best from streaming services, just plain and un interesting.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Lorde albums are generally excellent. I'll probably do soundtracks and jazz first, but can add pop to the list after that.

    • @rm-mastering
      @rm-mastering 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PassionforSound sounds great, thank you. max richter and Jóhann Jóhannsson (RIP) you must review please

  • @gbmwaz
    @gbmwaz 5 місяців тому +1

    I believe track #2 on the Nicola Benedetti album is the bouncy bow....

  • @DeMorcan
    @DeMorcan 8 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed this and would like to hear other lists.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Great! Thanks for letting me know. Is there a specific genre you'd be interested in?

    • @DeMorcan
      @DeMorcan 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Probably only me, but I would like sounbdtracks and 60s 70s music as they were mixed different than today and do not sound good on everythihng.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like an interesting video! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @bluemonstrosity259
    @bluemonstrosity259 8 місяців тому +1

    Not a test track recommendation, more of a music recommendation, but I would suggest you to listen to all the Bach recordings by Glenn Gould. Especially Italian Concerto 1981 version, Goldberg Variations, Chromatic Fantasy and Partita No.1 and No.2

  • @gordonwong7158
    @gordonwong7158 8 місяців тому +2

    Wonderful video. Please do more of this. Particularly film score. I don’t think anyone else has done this. The video is not too long so don’t worry could have been longer and still enjoyable thank you again

    • @mattcavanough
      @mattcavanough 8 місяців тому +1

      Agree 100%

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks to both of you for your feedback. Film scores next and then onto something different (but using this format as it seems to have worked well). 🙂🙂

    • @mattcavanough
      @mattcavanough 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Excellent! Looking forward to it and any other genres you tackle in future 🎺

  • @colingreen4357
    @colingreen4357 8 місяців тому +2

    A couple of points to mention about the Karajan - Strauss album (the first reviewed). My understanding is that Karajan was heavily involved in all aspects of the engineering of his recordings, including balance and soundstage, and the sound he wanted was the perspective he heard on the podium, not that of the audience. This might explain why many of his recordings sound up-front.
    Second, and I’ve mentioned this before, in the real world although there’s a depth/ambience relationship between an orchestra and the hall or studio, within the orchestra there’s not that much depth or layering. At a concert, close your eyes and forget about what you can see, and the sound presented is relatively flat. Obviously, there’s a clear left to right distribution, but not much layering. Timpani might be at the back but they often don’t sound as if they’re behind the strings and brass. In that respect, much depends on the internal dynamics of what’s played, not physical location.
    I’ll add a caveat, however. Microphone placement and mixing can create a layering affect which though to an extent artificial can enhance the recording. So it might be said that gear that reproduces that sense of layering is more transparent to the final mix.

    • @danieljohnson6370
      @danieljohnson6370 8 місяців тому +1

      Former orchestral musician here (contrabass): the sound onstage is always VERY different than that in the seats of the hall. I think this had more to do with proximity to the other instruments than the effect of the room on the orchestral sound as a whole. I believe that modern symphony hall architects actually strive to make the room blend the orchestra into a unified sound (?mono) rather than a layered binaural experience that a lot of headphones enthusiasts seem to prioritize (myself included).
      I found this to be true even in halls with seating behind the orchestra (my experience was mostly in San Francisco Davies Symphony Hall behind the band, and I've never been in Berlin's Philharmonie - I've only been told that it sounds amazing with the Berliner Philharmoniker).

    • @colingreen4357
      @colingreen4357 8 місяців тому +2

      I think that’s right, which is why in most modern concert halls you get good sound from wherever you’re sitting, even extreme left and right, or as you say from behind the orchestra.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      That's very interesting insight from both of you - thank you!

    • @danieljohnson6370
      @danieljohnson6370 8 місяців тому +1

      @@colingreen4357 @colingreen4357 Agreed, but it makes me wonder if these modern recordings are striving to recreate that experience or to create a new, more exciting(?engaging) experience. Chamber music (and i include jazz, folk and rock groups in this overbroad category) is ideally heard in a smaller room which would lend it to greater image separation and individuation within the music.
      This suggests that large ensemble music might be suboptimal for seeking these characteristics in a recording, but i know there are a ton of classical audiophiles -- i don't understand where the break is. I also might just be unable to hear and recognize these things due to gear and hearing limitations. Thanks to you both for the discussion!

    • @colingreen4357
      @colingreen4357 8 місяців тому +2

      Sometimes the artefacts of the recording process are more prominent, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. To use an example I think I’ve mentioned before, with ECM jazz recordings drums and cymbals are distributed across the whole soundstage which is not realistic but it does allow one to hear the particular timbre of each stoke and brush of the kit. Some, including myself, regard this as a sonic advantage, exploiting features of the recorded medium. You get the same with “rock” records (for want of a better term) where the distribution of sounds, layering, panning etc. is intended to enhance the music, not recreate some actual event, and it can work.
      It’s true that recordings of chamber music can exhibit more distinctive separation, and that reflects reality: the fewer instruments the more likely they are to occupy their own acoustic space. Not such much with orchestral music, but personally the kind of thing I appreciate in a good recording of such works is dynamic range and timbral accuracy. I suppose one can listen to different music in different ways, even from a hi-fi/demo perspective.

  • @october65-h6e
    @october65-h6e 8 місяців тому +2

    Great content Lachlan. There are some great classical pieces out there:
    Ralph Vaughan Williams...Fantasia on a Theme of Thomas Tallis
    Gustav Holst...The Planets
    Samuel Barber...Adagio for Strings
    Antonin Dvorak...Symphonie No. 9 "From the new world"(my fav symphonie!!!)
    ...
    Maybe the next one with film scores.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it! I think film soundtracks could be very interesting.

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 8 місяців тому +2

    Reaction song suggestion - aurora 54321 murder song noble peace prize.
    My personal test track that I usually play first on new speakers and headphones is Nina Simone - sinner man. It’s a great test for imaging and stage size along with a timbre for standup bass and a female vocal. The hand claps is an important section as well .

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestions! Sinner man is such a great track

  • @joshchacko7729
    @joshchacko7729 8 місяців тому

    Thank you man.

  • @blejzerosamigos6115
    @blejzerosamigos6115 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video, I think one common theme comes back again and again, it’s that a lot of these recordings sound better on two channels speaker setup I think this might be true for the whole genre of music.

    • @Ray-dl5mp
      @Ray-dl5mp 8 місяців тому +1

      Hmmm that’s an interesting point. You mean over headphones? I’ll have to see if I agree since I’m mainly a headphone listener. Thanks!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      I'm curious about what's meant by this comment too.
      As I said in the beginning of this video, I tried the first half of these tracks on speakers too and found that the headphones gave me the same impressions and sometimes even better insight into the music because there is no room interaction to worry about and you can hear every tiny detail.

    • @blejzerosamigos6115
      @blejzerosamigos6115 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PassionforSound It's not complicated all I'm trying to say is that Orchestral classic music sound better on good Audiophile speaker setup rather good (or great) headphones, it's generally true in my opinion.
      Maybe in this video you were trying to find reference recordings that's is fine.
      Classical music to my ears sounds better on my speakers and I do listen to headphones, I
      Just got Modhouse Tungsten great headphones Arya also for orchestra but still speakers are just better tools for that job. Thank you for the your videos always a pleasure I always learn something new.

    • @Ray-dl5mp
      @Ray-dl5mp 8 місяців тому +2

      @@blejzerosamigos6115 I know what you mean I think now listening to a simple setup. The power of an orchestra is a big part of it, and perhaps speakers are better for those intense moments when you get huge dynamic range swings. Not that you don’t get those on headphones or that you can’t hear all the details. Listening to speakers I could see and perhaps feel more like an orchestra is right in front of me. But I’m sure both can be great. I’ve had super emotional moving orchestra moments with headphones too. I do really enjoy 2 speaker stereo setup for orchestra though and how sounds bounce across to each speaker. Super enjoyable and thank you for your thoughts !

    • @blejzerosamigos6115
      @blejzerosamigos6115 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Ray-dl5mp just sharing my experience, thanks for understanding. Cheers.

  • @kaigaitley
    @kaigaitley 8 місяців тому +2

    Disappointed to have missed this survey, so here's my recommendation:
    Tchaikovsky's 4th and 5th Symphonies, by the Leningrad Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Mravinsky.
    At the height of the cold war, they came to London to perform, and West German engineers recorded it. You can hear the tension in the playing, there's an almost violent tone throughout that just keeps you riveted. Forget soundstage and imaging, this is about emotion and geo-political supremacy. Amazing!
    ua-cam.com/play/PLNk0_qYUtcL6EJq-ig1kq_L9StNFqwRIc.html&si=1inr2xztE1I38WV6

  • @MrRosscoz
    @MrRosscoz 8 місяців тому

    Glad you enjoyed Zimmerman :-)

  • @pauldavies6037
    @pauldavies6037 8 місяців тому +1

    Would be interested to know what year was each recording made and were any analogue ones ?Yes recording classical music is not like pop multi mic recording balance can sound very unnatural ones made in the 60's can sound more natural with simpler equipment

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      The versions shown on screen were all exactly what I listened to via Qobuz so you can probably source that information fairly easily. I had to limit how deep I went on any specific details (other than the listening experience) to keep the video length reasonable.

    • @pauldavies6037
      @pauldavies6037 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound ok will do

  • @B8THOV3N
    @B8THOV3N 8 місяців тому +1

    I find that spacial information in classical recordings are presented differently on headphones in comparison to speakers. Often times, the placement of instruments in an orchestra does not sound most accurate on headphones. There could be a few reasons for such "issue". If the recording is mixed/mastered with speakers, instrument placement may not sound the same on headphones. Older classical recordings usually are not the best for testing (such as the Also Sprach Zarathustra in your video) because they were analogue recordings. The Also Sprach Zarathustra recording in your video is recorded in the early 70s. Stereo recording was just started to be standardised at that time. Stereo recording technology back then was definitely not as good as today's. That's why you noticed some less than natural spacial information in some of the older classical recordings you have mentioned.
    I would be interested if you would have a different opinion if you listen to the same tracks with speakers.

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      As I explained at the beginning of this video, I listened to the first half of these albums on speakers before returning to headphones for the second attempt at recording. The headphones actually provided more insight, but nothing different from the speakers. Of course, the choice and setup of speakers and headphones could influence that, but a great speaker setup and an equivalent headphone setup will reveal the same traits in a recording.

    • @B8THOV3N
      @B8THOV3N 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound I must have missed the part where you mentioned the speakers. Thank you for your input!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      No problems 🙂

  • @KiwiNickG
    @KiwiNickG 8 місяців тому +1

    Love it maybe Jazz next?

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback and suggestion. Looks like we have soundtracks and jazz on the cards for future episodes...

  • @gbmwaz
    @gbmwaz 5 місяців тому +1

    Good luck & thanks for trying BUT - I plow continuously thru Amazon HD & UHD tracks and find out of every 1,000 tracks I find about 5% worth keeping.....tough job - maybe jazz etc easier... Not much here

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  5 місяців тому

      Yes. It's tough finding great music AND great recordings. It's almost harder when faced with so many thousands of options!

  • @pdcragin33
    @pdcragin33 8 місяців тому

    I vote for small combo Jazz, trio, quartet up to nonet at most.

  • @shaunyweaver1144
    @shaunyweaver1144 7 місяців тому +1

    It's not my genre, Vivaldi is about it, but looking forward to others .

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  7 місяців тому +1

      I've just finished recording and editing the film scores video and there are some rippers in there!

  • @pdcragin33
    @pdcragin33 8 місяців тому +1

    Interestingly Lachlan, most of these failed your criteria. So which classical albums fulfill your criteria?

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      When it comes to test albums, I'm really picky!
      One of the reasons I approached the classical genre this way was that I didn't have a good list of test albums of my own to share. It happened to alsoake it much more collaborative which I love and so will continue, but that was the genesis of the idea.
      Here are a couple that I use (sometimes just a specific track or two):
      Mahler's Symphony No. 6 with the Berliner Philharmoniker & Kirill Petrenko
      Trumpet Voluntary - Peter Hurford (Decca)
      I don't feel like these are necessarily as good as a couple of the suggestions in this video though.

    • @pdcragin33
      @pdcragin33 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Try (Qobuz) any of the Sibelius Symphony albums by Osmo Vanska conducting the Minnesota Orchestra.

    • @pdcragin33
      @pdcragin33 8 місяців тому +1

      @passionforsound OK you've revved me up because I don't actually listen for "depth" although I do enjoy "width"/soundstage. So I thought I'd recommend M. Tilson Thomas conducting San Francisco Orch for Mahler Symphony 6 because I love their Mahler 1 - but no! Fails your criteria. However, my son the amateur musician/arranger (who's not an audiophile, but I'm working on him) recommended Mahler Symphony 5 conducted by Osmo Vanska, Minnesota Orchestra. I think that's the "depth" you're seeking, as well as offering finely etched sonics. Check out the interplay among winds and strings in the second movement. The melody flits left to right and front to back in a delightful way. Thanks for giving me another way to listen!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the tip! Sounds like we've made a good trade! 🙂🙂

  • @MrRosscoz
    @MrRosscoz 8 місяців тому +1

    Next one Jazz!

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому +1

      I've had a couple of votes for jazz so maybe...

  • @GadZookz
    @GadZookz 8 місяців тому +1

    Since you can’t play the albums themselves maybe you could generate your own sound effects, maybe as if you were making love to each of the different albums.

    • @oldaudionerd
      @oldaudionerd 8 місяців тому +1

      wtf

    • @PassionforSound
      @PassionforSound  8 місяців тому

      Yep, I agree: wtf. No one wants to hear that 😁

    • @GadZookz
      @GadZookz 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PassionforSound Yeah, there is that. 😀