Awesome review on a great looking timepiece. Marc is really capitalizing on a huge segment of the market that Seiko and Orient are neglecting. I'd really love to see him make the value proposition even better by adding a few minor tweaks: applied logo, framed date window, female end link. Even if he raised the price another $25 or so, it would still be the best microbrand out there in terms of the specs they offer.
Great review, thanks for taking the time. I'm irked I didn't find out about the Islander 38mm line u til this emerald beauty was sold out, and dismayed that it will not be returning. I think I'm gonna scratch the itch, though, with the green Bayport 40mm. It does not have a sapphire dome, though, Marc went with a flat crystal (sort of a head-scratcher but OK). I really like the H link bracelet the Bayports come on. Not crazy about the 3 o'clock, guardless crown. Congrats on your purchase; wear it well 👍
I didn't know he discontinued these - bummer! I like the Bayport plan, not quite the same, but I there have been improvements in the Islander line that you will take advantage of with the newer versions (negative endlinks, better claps, etc.)
@@JustWatches1 yeah between the Pepsi 38mm, the emerald 40mm, and the seagull 1963 Chrono... Man, Marc is about to get a full G from me....and, remarkably, I'll be *happy* about it!?! And then I've gotta reign it in g chill, lol (...but really)
Thank you for the kind words. This is the stock Seiko jubilee bracelet for the SKX013. Marc actually sells those as well, but you might be able to find it for a slightly better price if you shop around: longislandwatch.com/seiko-44g2jz-watch-bracelet-44g2jz/
Nice watch I will have to look at other colours in the range got to factor in the customs charge for the uk but lot of watch for the money great review as well
Ah yes, it helps that I am US based, I know customs and taxes can be a big factor when getting a watch from overseas. There are quite a few choices now, and I think there are plans for many more models.
This video is a year old now, but I’ve been looking for a green dive watch for around 300 dollars as a graduation gift. After your video…my search is over 😂
Nice review, and one of the few I have seen Marc’s fellow UA-camrs do of the watch, so hats off for actually reviewing the watch. I always like to get a 2nd opinion from the obvious fan club that is represented in Marc’s chat for the watch. Overall I think it does represent a great watch, but I do like to hear some 3rd party opinions, so thanks for buying it and reviewing it! I love the selection that Marc has put in place, there is truly something for every colour taste and and bezel taste out there..😂 I have not pulled the trigger yet, but plan to in the next year or so, I have to pace my purchases, and have a big one planned for this year. That said, he keeps coming out with better and better watches so I think the wait will be well worth it. I also love his channel for content, as he educates the community and gives us a peak into a what it is like to make and sell a watch brand. I will have to find that video on the whole day/date when not to set (10-2) as I have a watch that no longer manually sets the day date, but it does change when you change the time. I want to take it apart and see if I can fix it myself..
Thanks for the comments. I am a bit of a Marc fan boy, but I would definitely say something if I didn't like the watch. It's solid! Yes, I have been following his releases and agree, they keep getting better. Good for you for saving for a big purchase, I am always chasing affordables. What watch do you have that doesn't quick set? Depending on the movement the calendar side of a watch is easier to fix and wouldn't require re-oiling anything.
Just Watches I have only been in the hobby of collecting for about a year, so I too am 99.9999999% chasing affordable as well...😂 so no surprise that the watch with the issue is an AliExpress Guanqin with a Miyota 8205. I think I will take it apart to give it a look, as I have other dress style watches that “replace” it. I like to tinker, so this is a good excuse. 😇 I am currently saving for a SARX055. I have been eying it for a while, and given it is my 55th year on earth, I decided that was a sign of sorts, so will narrow down the vendors soon with some price quotes and pull that trigger. Not a grail watch, but a large step up for my collection. And yes, I still chase affordables that I like the look and quality of. Probably always will.
@@gimbydude491 The Miyota is a tricky movement. I tinker a bit too, and have yet to master that one. I don't have a service diagram for that one, but there is a nice tear down here: www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/81872-strip-down-service-of-miyota-8215-automatic-watch-movement-part1/ If you haven't tinkered before, I wouldn't try on a watch you are about the first time, you will lose parts and springs until you master the technique for each. For example that date corrector spring on figure 7 would happily fly away at the slightest wrong touch. I can't recommend the sarx055 enough. That is my only "big watch purchase" and I'm still in love with it two years later (which is rare for me). Happy hunting and fixing!
2:14 its a seiko nh36 (day and date). one thing to note: it says 200M for WR but it's not certified tested for that depth. ISO tested watches can say DIVERS on the dial.
Good catch by the OP. “Watch and learn” lol. I know Island Watch, (Mark) saw an opportunity, when probably one of his best selling lines, the SKX, was discontinued by Seiko and he jumped in to fill the void but it bothers me that it’s basically a rip off of Seiko, even though it delivers a great value for the features offered. I’m disappointed that Seiko didn’t upgrade/update the SKX and that Mark, especially as an authorized Seiko dealer, took the easy way out and just did a Chinese sourced catalog homage to the venerable SKX design. I get WHY but I don’t like it much. If I wanted that in a watch, I’d source the case, movement, etc and build it myself. Way cooler that way. That’s just me. Nice review tho’.
plm2879, Me too, i’ve got the SKX173 variant. I don’t know the reasons why Seiko changed the lineup as they did but I would have preferred a hacking movement upgrade in the SKX,, that would have justified a price increase and kept a classic in the lineup. Customizers could still do their thing as they wish but for guys like me, you’d still have a certified Diver tool watch to bang around in and back up your more expensive pieces. Bringing the SKX case design over to the 5 line and ditching the screw down is a fail for me, upgraded movement aside. At least the Islander knock offs have a screw down crown, if not a certified diver.
@@bondpit8750 agreed, an updated skx would've been great for us watch guys. But I'm guessing the profit margin is better on the 5kx. and the king turtle meh, they chose that case over skx idk. 🤷♂️
You should check out AROGON they just released a 42 mm Dive Watch with all the same specs as this with a exposition case back with silicone strap for $189 I absolutely love it. Good Review just Subscribed !
Interesting, I have seen that brand before, but previously they only made much larger sizes. 42 is much closer to watch I prefer - I'll keep an eye out for one :)
@@JustWatches1 if you get a chance the owners of the company come on the Flippin Zippo channel ,, Great channel for watch enthusiast 🌞 Sunday at 2 hear in the US CK. It out !
@@juniorjohnson5961 Thanks for your comments. I was actually pretty close to pulling the trigger on an Islander but after seeing your comment I looked into the 42 mm Divemaster and grabbed one. Incredible value for less than 200. I will get an Islander eventually but could not ignore the Aragon at that price. Has almost everything the ISL does. I'm glad they came down from 50 mm.
@@markr1461 Glad you got one what color did you get ? I chose the white with black ceramic Bezel , The loom is also very good, if you get a chance CK out Flippin Zippo I believe There going to do Giveaways ! Of ARAGON
Just Watches there was never that big of hype on these but the people like me who love them can’t really put a price on its perfection. I’m sure he is making thousands of sales.
@@JustWatches1 I'm assuming that watch runs much slower on wrist/motion so if that's my watch, I'd be sure to regulate it at at least +5 sec. per 24 hrs. in that single dial up position. I prefer all my automatic or mechanical watches to be on the plus side, preferably 0 to 5 sec.fast per 24 hours on wrist.
@@TheFlyrodder68 Yes, I find watches run slower on wrist. Generally, what I do is time it on the wrist for a number of days and see how it is running on wrist. Then I'll adjust the rate against how it runs on wrist and not how it runs on the timegrapher. I agree faster is way better, because it is so much easier to hack the watch to bleed off a few seconds versus if it is running slow.
@@JustWatches1 especially when you have to own or buy an SKX before you can even mod it. The SKXs were great in their own right, it just makes sense to leave them alone, especially with their value fluctuation like it is. Having that familiar case with all of the things that everyone wishes Seiko did with the SKX, including things actually lining up like they should, for a similar price to what SKXs retailed at before they were discontinued... I mean, an SKX modded to these specs would probably cost like $500-$600 all in if you can get a decent price for the watch itself, and then the ISO rating would be void, which was one of the biggest reasons for the cost of the SKXs in the first place. At that point, you may as well just grab an Islander, right?
Awesome review on a great looking timepiece. Marc is really capitalizing on a huge segment of the market that Seiko and Orient are neglecting. I'd really love to see him make the value proposition even better by adding a few minor tweaks: applied logo, framed date window, female end link. Even if he raised the price another $25 or so, it would still be the best microbrand out there in terms of the specs they offer.
Yes, I would greatly prefer a female end link! I'm okay with the logo (it's lumed), but a date frame would round out the dial nicely :)
I heard this watch will be going on sale this black Friday and I love his Watch and Learn series, so thank you for the review video!
Correct, it is $239 over at long island watch right now.
Great review, thanks for taking the time. I'm irked I didn't find out about the Islander 38mm line u til this emerald beauty was sold out, and dismayed that it will not be returning. I think I'm gonna scratch the itch, though, with the green Bayport 40mm. It does not have a sapphire dome, though, Marc went with a flat crystal (sort of a head-scratcher but OK). I really like the H link bracelet the Bayports come on. Not crazy about the 3 o'clock, guardless crown. Congrats on your purchase; wear it well 👍
I didn't know he discontinued these - bummer! I like the Bayport plan, not quite the same, but I there have been improvements in the Islander line that you will take advantage of with the newer versions (negative endlinks, better claps, etc.)
@@JustWatches1 yeah between the Pepsi 38mm, the emerald 40mm, and the seagull 1963 Chrono... Man, Marc is about to get a full G from me....and, remarkably, I'll be *happy* about it!?!
And then I've gotta reign it in g chill, lol (...but really)
Even mark didnt review this watch so beautifully. You made me a customer of him.
& where can i buy that jubilee bracelet??
Thank you for the kind words. This is the stock Seiko jubilee bracelet for the SKX013. Marc actually sells those as well, but you might be able to find it for a slightly better price if you shop around:
longislandwatch.com/seiko-44g2jz-watch-bracelet-44g2jz/
oh thank you...i am from INDIA, so will it be shipped here?
@@surajpawar7724 that I don't actually know, you would have to check at the store
Great honest review, and very thorough. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I've got my ISL21 on a strapcode Endmill style bracelet. :D This watch really makes me smile when I wear it.
I feel the same way, it is a super fun watch!
I just got my first Islander. The Pilot watch. Great watches and Mark is a really nice guy.
Awesome, those look really cool! Agree love Long Island Watch.
Just got mine in the mail today. Pretty good, a few things I would change here and there, but still great. Just some sharp edges lol.
Awesome, I am glad you are enjoying it! Which edges do you find sharp?
@@JustWatches1 mines the jubilee edges and the crown guards had to be filed and polished. It was cutting me every time I screwed the crown in lol.
@@salty_terminal_civilian5374 oh dang, I didn't have that issue.
Great review! Your point about the long end links is very helpful. Does the Seiko bracelet solve the long/protruding end link issue?
It does, the Seiko jubilee doesn't have long end links like that. I actually prefer it on the jubilee for that reason.
These watches seem like a great value. That size fits your wrist perfectly.
Thanks, yes 38-39mm is my sweet spot. And yes, Islander watches are indeed a great value! Thanks for watching :)
Nice watch I will have to look at other colours in the range got to factor in the customs charge for the uk but lot of watch for the money great review as well
Ah yes, it helps that I am US based, I know customs and taxes can be a big factor when getting a watch from overseas. There are quite a few choices now, and I think there are plans for many more models.
This video is a year old now, but I’ve been looking for a green dive watch for around 300 dollars as a graduation gift. After your video…my search is over 😂
Wonderful, I'm happy it helped! Let me know your impressions when you receive it! Oh, and congratulations on graduating!
Nice review, and one of the few I have seen Marc’s fellow UA-camrs do of the watch, so hats off for actually reviewing the watch. I always like to get a 2nd opinion from the obvious fan club that is represented in Marc’s chat for the watch. Overall I think it does represent a great watch, but I do like to hear some 3rd party opinions, so thanks for buying it and reviewing it!
I love the selection that Marc has put in place, there is truly something for every colour taste and and bezel taste out there..😂 I have not pulled the trigger yet, but plan to in the next year or so, I have to pace my purchases, and have a big one planned for this year. That said, he keeps coming out with better and better watches so I think the wait will be well worth it.
I also love his channel for content, as he educates the community and gives us a peak into a what it is like to make and sell a watch brand. I will have to find that video on the whole day/date when not to set (10-2) as I have a watch that no longer manually sets the day date, but it does change when you change the time. I want to take it apart and see if I can fix it myself..
Thanks for the comments. I am a bit of a Marc fan boy, but I would definitely say something if I didn't like the watch. It's solid!
Yes, I have been following his releases and agree, they keep getting better. Good for you for saving for a big purchase, I am always chasing affordables.
What watch do you have that doesn't quick set? Depending on the movement the calendar side of a watch is easier to fix and wouldn't require re-oiling anything.
Just Watches I have only been in the hobby of collecting for about a year, so I too am 99.9999999% chasing affordable as well...😂 so no surprise that the watch with the issue is an AliExpress Guanqin with a Miyota 8205. I think I will take it apart to give it a look, as I have other dress style watches that “replace” it. I like to tinker, so this is a good excuse. 😇
I am currently saving for a SARX055. I have been eying it for a while, and given it is my 55th year on earth, I decided that was a sign of sorts, so will narrow down the vendors soon with some price quotes and pull that trigger. Not a grail watch, but a large step up for my collection. And yes, I still chase affordables that I like the look and quality of. Probably always will.
@@gimbydude491 The Miyota is a tricky movement. I tinker a bit too, and have yet to master that one. I don't have a service diagram for that one, but there is a nice tear down here:
www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/81872-strip-down-service-of-miyota-8215-automatic-watch-movement-part1/
If you haven't tinkered before, I wouldn't try on a watch you are about the first time, you will lose parts and springs until you master the technique for each. For example that date corrector spring on figure 7 would happily fly away at the slightest wrong touch.
I can't recommend the sarx055 enough. That is my only "big watch purchase" and I'm still in love with it two years later (which is rare for me). Happy hunting and fixing!
Just Watches thx, that is a great tear down and also a great site for info on watches!
good point on the lugs to lug and the taper
Thanks, it took me a while to figure this out, so I want to pass it on. Lug to lug is one of the most important measurements for how a watch fits.
2:14 its a seiko nh36 (day and date). one thing to note: it says 200M for WR but it's not certified tested for that depth. ISO tested watches can say DIVERS on the dial.
Ah, fair points. This is not ISO certified. I am a desk diver anyways, so I'm okay with it, but it is good to point that out :)
Good catch by the OP. “Watch and learn” lol. I know Island Watch, (Mark) saw an opportunity, when probably one of his best selling lines, the SKX, was discontinued by Seiko and he jumped in to fill the void but it bothers me that it’s basically a rip off of Seiko, even though it delivers a great value for the features offered. I’m disappointed that Seiko didn’t upgrade/update the SKX and that Mark, especially as an authorized Seiko dealer, took the easy way out and just did a Chinese sourced catalog homage to the venerable SKX design. I get WHY but I don’t like it much. If I wanted that in a watch, I’d source the case, movement, etc and build it myself. Way cooler that way. That’s just me. Nice review tho’.
@@bondpit8750 seiko thought seiko 5's was a better entry diver and prospex king turtle was the serious diver. meh 🤷♂️ Im just glad I got a skx007j. 😊
plm2879, Me too, i’ve got the SKX173 variant. I don’t know the reasons why Seiko changed the lineup as they did but I would have preferred a hacking movement upgrade in the SKX,, that would have justified a price increase and kept a classic in the lineup. Customizers could still do their thing as they wish but for guys like me, you’d still have a certified Diver tool watch to bang around in and back up your more expensive pieces. Bringing the SKX case design over to the 5 line and ditching the screw down is a fail for me, upgraded movement aside. At least the Islander knock offs have a screw down crown, if not a certified diver.
@@bondpit8750 agreed, an updated skx would've been great for us watch guys. But I'm guessing the profit margin is better on the 5kx. and the king turtle meh, they chose that case over skx idk. 🤷♂️
Hi. I know dive watches are usually a bit clunky, but would you class this watch as thick & heavy?
Thanks
Yes, it is quite thick and feels pretty thick too because it is only 38mm.
i really like his pink version....will it come back?
Yes, I believe he is doing another run. He ran out of the greens ones too, but made more. The pink is pretty cool!
Hi. What is the weight(grams) of this watch? Does it make much different between
with the two bracelets? Thanks
Hi, it’s about 145 g sized for my wrist. I would say the jubilee would be a bit lighter but I will have to test it.
I would have liked a matte dial vs this shiny one
fair enough :)
Hi! Please make a review of CASIO MTP-1200A-2AVEF... bought it for only 60 bucks, blue is gorgeous, crazy thin and even has sapphire crystal :)
I will see if I can pick one up :)
Do you have to pay any crossborder duty if I order it to canada.?
That is something I don't know, but I am sure if you emailed Long Island Watch they would know for sure!
You couldn't find a surface that wasn't scratched and dinged to set the watch on??
You don't like my table? I think it has character :P
You should check out AROGON they just released a 42 mm Dive Watch with all the same specs as this with a exposition case back with silicone strap for $189 I absolutely love it. Good Review just Subscribed !
Interesting, I have seen that brand before, but previously they only made much larger sizes. 42 is much closer to watch I prefer - I'll keep an eye out for one :)
@@JustWatches1 if you get a chance the owners of the company come on the Flippin Zippo channel ,, Great channel for watch enthusiast 🌞 Sunday at 2 hear in the US CK. It out !
@@juniorjohnson5961 Thanks for your comments. I was actually pretty close to pulling the trigger on an Islander but after seeing your comment I looked into the 42 mm Divemaster and grabbed one. Incredible value for less than 200. I will get an Islander eventually but could not ignore the Aragon at that price. Has almost everything the ISL does. I'm glad they came down from 50 mm.
@@markr1461 Glad you got one what color did you get ? I chose the white with black ceramic Bezel , The loom is also very good, if you get a chance CK out Flippin Zippo I believe There going to do Giveaways ! Of ARAGON
@@juniorjohnson5961 I got the blue one. I was looking at the white but I already have a diver of similar color so wanted to switch it up.
Can’t wait until mine areives
Nice, let me know your impressions when you get it!
Just Watches arrives* hey I know I will love it! What do you think about these pieces increasing in value over the next 20 years?
@@stig5763 Super difficult to predict stuff like that. It is certainly possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Just Watches there was never that big of hype on these but the people like me who love them can’t really put a price on its perfection. I’m sure he is making thousands of sales.
@@stig5763 I definitely agree with you there. I think these will gain in popularity and hype on these will grow over time.
It is running slow but that's an easy fix since you have a timegrapher!
Yes, I have tried my hand at some regulating with good results :)
@@JustWatches1 I'm assuming that watch runs much slower on wrist/motion so if that's my watch, I'd be sure to regulate it at at least +5 sec. per 24 hrs. in that single dial up position. I prefer all my automatic or mechanical watches to be on the plus side, preferably 0 to 5 sec.fast per 24 hours on wrist.
@@TheFlyrodder68 Yes, I find watches run slower on wrist. Generally, what I do is time it on the wrist for a number of days and see how it is running on wrist. Then I'll adjust the rate against how it runs on wrist and not how it runs on the timegrapher. I agree faster is way better, because it is so much easier to hack the watch to bleed off a few seconds versus if it is running slow.
This would look good on a different strap - leather or silicon.
For sure, I should try it out on a few!
Good watch. Just wish it wasn’t so thick and clunky looking.
Agree, it is a touch on the thick side!
That's the caseback ruining it
The caseback on these are 4.8 thick
Namoki or tokeilab or CT slim casebacks can fix everything looks wise
6:51 it looks much smaller than the Kamasu. I think 38mm is way too small
38mm on a diver does make the dial really small!
NH36 movement
Oops, that is correct.
Thank you for wearing white gloves! Too many watch reviewer think we enjoy seeing closeups of their disgusting fingernails.
No problem, I go back and forth with them, but I agree, I think I prefer when reviewers wear them.
That's funny... they should get a manicure if they are not going to wear gloves.
@@JustWatches1 It's really about standards.
@@mishywaffles1 indeed
I don’t get these Islander watches, they’re literally just modded SKX’s 🤷🏻♂️
That is exactly what they are, but it is much cheaper and easier to buy one of these than it is to buy and install the mods yourself.
@@JustWatches1 especially when you have to own or buy an SKX before you can even mod it. The SKXs were great in their own right, it just makes sense to leave them alone, especially with their value fluctuation like it is. Having that familiar case with all of the things that everyone wishes Seiko did with the SKX, including things actually lining up like they should, for a similar price to what SKXs retailed at before they were discontinued... I mean, an SKX modded to these specs would probably cost like $500-$600 all in if you can get a decent price for the watch itself, and then the ISO rating would be void, which was one of the biggest reasons for the cost of the SKXs in the first place. At that point, you may as well just grab an Islander, right?
@@dlaw1954 Exactly. Couldn't say it any better.