Listening to Frank Zappa: Joe's Garage: Act 3, Side 1
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Ok.... here goes Act 3, Side 1!!!
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What this album really is about is how important free speech is and how dangerous censorship is. Frank fought this all the way to congress with other artists Dee Snyder and John Denver, and essentially won. When you think about how Frank wanted to make that point and channeled his art to do so, and did so with such amazing writing, composition, music, and production, you start to understand the genius of this man. Jim I'm enjoying your journey through Joe's Garage. I love your analogy between one of Frank's most famous quotes and your experience listening to this. Can't wait until you wrap it up and I hope you continue your Zappa journey moving forward.
It’s been quite a journey. I’m very excited to hear more, much more!
Interesting that his next LP - all Jazz, no lyrics - got a warning sticker put on it.
This is the greatest dystopian record ever made Frank Zappa was ahead of his time! " Hey, it's a way of life!"
All recordings were ahead of there time.
The best part is that after you finish, you can listen to all of it uninterrupted!
If I've listened to this album once, I've listened to it a thousand times....
Both of my sons, now in the twenties, have been Zappa fans since they were old enough to use my receiver!
Rest in peace, Frank....
4 years since fate had you start the Frank journey with Watermellon, I’ve watched/shared that video many times. You’ll have to pick up the pace on listening to his music or we’ll all be dead before you get to it all. Thx for posting his music. Be safe.
Loved your reaction to the music I grew up with.. would love to see you do Zappa Overnight Sensation.. Frank was a musical genius 😍
Just anothet bsnd from LA
Sheik Yerbouti
My fave is "One Size Fits All".. . "Inca Roads" is the best!
You have been "Zappa'd"! It's a way of life. He used to cut my grass. He was a nice boy.
Glad to see you are beginning to understand, you’ve come a long way!
Information is not knowledge
Knowledge is not wisdom
Wisdom is not truth
Truth is not beauty
Beauty is not love
Love is not music
MUSIC IS THE BEST!
Only Frank would rhyme ‘prehensile’ with ‘utensil’. He was the best. Brilliant analysis, Jim.
There aren't that many options in that case. Comprehensible?
@@SpaceCattttt Tensile. Stencil. Pencil.
It was a rhyme with the word "pencil", but hey, it don't matter to me. Prehensile works too. Yes those were all great lines. He WAS the best. And still is.
Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is no truth.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the best.
Good morning Jim! More Zappa! Awesome. 😎
morning to you too Jeff, it's 46F in Montreal now at 7am
@@gabiesiren Morning Gabie. Rain and chilly here in Michigan. 😎
214 it's afternoon played 18 that started in 39 degrees the brother I played with had long underwear on
@@gabiesiren ah tabernac eh! Go Leafs Go
@@lesblatnyak5947 Lol!😎
Cant wait for "(Playing a Guitar Solo With This Band is Like Trying To Grow a) Watermelon in Easter Hay". People still says it's his best solo ever recorded. (Also the only solo written specifically for the album)
You don't grow a watermelon, you eat the watermelon in Easter Hay.
@@tixximmi1 obviously you newer tried to play with the band
@@JoriDiculous As a matter of fact I played Zither and Chanter for a show in Long Beach. Just one song on stage with Frank and the band. Never say never. It was part of Audience Participation. Yes I was lucky. No I didn't get paid, but I was a Mother for a day.
One of the best album.
One of the best Zappa quotes on this album to....
Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is THE BEST.
...And we're back!
I love this whole album. Used to listen to a few songs off of this 45 years ago. Headphones so enhance the experience. FZ was brilliant. He knew his stuff was not mainstream and he didn't care. He kept coming with it. A real revolutionary.
Packard Goose: the genius combo of super tight, punchy rhythms, (intentionally) cheesy guitar bits and high-octane, explosive parts & incredible drum fills. Crowned by a complete Boss solo and deeply educational messages in the skin of song lyrics. Fresh as a daisy after 45 years. Wowsers.
Whoopee
I appreciate the time you’ve taken between the Acts in Joe’s Garage as it’s allowed you time to reflect and appreciate what Zappa is. Maybe you wouldn’t have had you listened to it all at once because then you just have that short time to focus on it before you move on to the next artist/album.
Thank you, Jim. I always appreciate your perspective. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the totality of this-if and whenever that is.✌🏻💛🎼
Frank was the rare composer who could improvise a coherent and structured 8 minute solo around complex themes and keep it exciting throughout.
This was a very interesting period in his music, he loved texturing multiple vocal themes on top of each other, using voices the way he previously integrated syncopated music.
Yes I saw Frank many, many years ago. That week saw Frank in LA, Santa Barbara, Berkeley, Sacramento and Reno. Five times in one week. At all of the concerts he did Inca Roads. The lead was different all 5 times. Reno was the best.
Im amazed you can wait so long for the next Zappa reaction. He made over 60 albums, and another over 60 have been released since his much too early death.
They aren't all Joe's Garage, in fact none of them are, cos as you're finding out genres didnt limit him, but there's much much more awesome music to hear.
All out of his head, hus music - he was a composer first, a truly great one. Who played guitar and i would say he was up there with the best. And a damn good lyricist with no filter. And a singer. He produced the albums brilliantly. And a conductor, you'll see him conducting his shows with all musicians taking cues from him. His bands could play concerts without breaks. He was a social commentator, a satirist. One of a kind, up there on his own really....
good morning Jim, I'm watching this while eating my breakfast on saturday morning, 7am. I'm eating buckwheat flour pancakes with maple syrup and drinking coffee from British Columbia ! strange but good music to wake up to ! thanks for your wonderful work !
Music IS the best! Zappa Lives!
If you open your ears Frank Zappa is never crappa! Love his over dubs and talking down the tube voice work...ever the political observer. And you are right Jim ....there are loops in his music that he glides or layers over sometimes. It's something I got obsessed with too....he had a knack of making music out of all sorts of things which I find inspiring. Frank's production skills for the time were fantastic and radical too. Just like he was. When you feel the music mirrors the artist like this its something to behold. It's jaaaaaaaazzz man!😁🧙♂️🎸😎....or reggae.....um....or 50s do wop....um....or soul.....or whatevs...lol
Wonderful take. Yes, Frank could be tedious at times, but his genius of amazing musical gifts more than make up for it. That's some 5D guitar noises. Re-appraising this album's worth in the Zappa universe.
Your reaction to Joe's garage and Tools Fear Inoculum album are your best. This Zappa set is unparalleled. Thanks
This is clearly my favorite side to the album as I see it is yours to it certainly brings it all together in this conceptualizer of the central scrutinizer
Interesting way to start my Saturday morning Jim. Definitely needed my full attention. I may not like everything I’ve ever heard from Frank but this was brilliant. Thanks Jim. ✌️
Music is the Best!
I used to listen to this in my lonely bedsit in Bognor Regis. My first job no money and in a little shitty bedroom. This was my salvation. Steve Vai transcribed these pieces including drum parts that I programmed into a boss machine and played my own imaginary guitar solos over the top
Only love for this! ❤️❤️❤️
Only other bass line I love as much as the one in "Packard Goose" in the one in Zeppelin's "Dazed and Confused".
I highly recommend listening to two more albums in their entirety, they were both essentially recorded from the same session. Overnight Sensation and Apostrophe are also masterpieces like Joe’s Garage.
Music really is the best of all realms, and my guiding angel has led to me nearly every remarkable musician I would want to meet, including the ingenious Mr. Zappa...and personally he was a down-to-earth Capricorn with a wry sense of humor, to temper his wild imagination. This series was my favorite of his, and I've memorized great chunks of it. I often catch myself saying, in that voice: "He's a very nice boy. Used to cut my grass." My guiding angel has also led me to your outstanding shows. Long may you run! Viva la musica!
Congratulations on discovering the greatest quote of all time (and some really badass music). It was worth the wait!
The Packard Goose was a luxury model of a car from a failed car company Packard. While the Central Scrutinizer says it’s an imaginary song I think it’s safe to say the song depicts Zappa’s own point of view about journalism, journalists and music. The guitar solo is one of my favorites. And something that very few mention are the cracks about the guitar tone and Elegant Gypsy at the end. These are directed at Al Dimeola whose album Elegant Gypsy was pretty popular at the time this was released.
Nice!!!! Good morning Jim.
Hello Jim,
if you can get hold of his video "Does Humor Belong in Music", you'll hear him say something about "noodling" during one of the interviews.
It’s on you tube, and the audio video quality is top notch. I read somewhere it’s one of the first digital recordings….
All the solos on this side were from live tapes of just solos w/o backing.
He then edited the solos to keep all the good bits and xenochonized them over studio recorded backing tracks.
The only studio recorded solo on Joe's Garage is Watermelon In Easter Hay (which is short for 'playing a guitar solo with this band is like growing a watermelon in easter hay").
The solo in Packard Goose is composed of two different ones, if you listen carefully you can hear a slight change in tone.
Playing along with this album helped me learn guitar. Frank quotes Keats with the Truth/Beauty bit, and he's right about music being the best.
Niiiiiice…
Mejor album del siglo XX!! . No Beatles, no Rolling no fooling !! That guitar tone !!!!! Gets into your bones !!
The journey of Jim is just begun and eventually he may reach Civilization Phase 3. I have most of the FZ CDs before the death of Gail and the explosion of releases that would bankrupt a small country. Whilst there are many highly challenging records Thing Fish comes to mind it's a journey of plenty in a wasteland of mediocrity.
What I liked about CP3 is that before he died Frank brought 3 groups to his home to jam. The Chieftains. ('60s Celtic group). Huun Huur Tu (sp?) a Mongolian Throat singing group and the great Johnny Guitar Watson. When the Hun's went across Asia back in the early 1200's they advance to a place in Europe called, Hun gry. They would assimilate with the people they conquered. They would have heard a bagpipe and throat singing is a lot like the bagpipes. The drone of the bass notes while playing the higher notes at the same time. So Celtic music had an influence on Mongolian and Asian music.
I did a research on this and my paper ended up getting me an Honorary Doctorate from Cornell in Musical History. Thanks Frank.
Its interesting you mentioned a guitar solo taken out of context that works. I've seen Frank over 50X in my lifetime and I've heard live versions of this so IMO, that's not the case here. That said, he has incorporated live performances with studio recordings. The solo in Inca Roads is a prime example of that.
Gee Frank only released 62 albums, hey Jim you want to do them all? Got to see 2 of the 62 albums. Brilliant bands always.
Looking forward to the next episode.
All the guitar solos from this album (with the exception of watermelon) are all lifted from live solos from the 1978 tour.
FZ referred to the guitar solos on Joe's Garage as his "Ampex" guitar solos...eg, .they were are extracted from live performances and all he did was "press play" to insert into the song.
Not totally sure if David Byrne of the Talking Heads was a Frank Zappa fan or not. However part of the reason that you may hear that influence is because of guitarist/vocalist Adrian Belew. He was in Zappa's band from 77-78 during the time that Frank was writing and arranging much of the music. After Belew left he worked with David Byrne(79-82) and King Crimson(81-2013). Anyway Belew isn't on Joe's Garage. The rhythm guitar on the studio album is by Warren Cuccurullo who later formed Missing Persons with other former Zappa musicians who are all on Joes Garage(Cuccurrullo, Terry & Dale Bozzio, Patrick O'Hearn) then joined Duran Duran in 1986.
Love this you should listen to zappas over-night sensation album
This video is kind of weird falling on the 43rd anniversary of the release of act 1I think it was like the week before this video came out was the 43rd anniversary of the 1st act
This is the Central scrutinizer and don't you forget it
It's interesting that you said "it's bringing it all together" as the last two lines (What is that - musk?, and It's hip!) are quotes from the (animated) Dental Hygiene Dilemma sequence in the movie 200 Motels (1971) by Frank.
Zappa sometimes used silly lyrics because he knew the public wouldn't just listen to music without vocals but no matter how silly or even offensive the lyrics could get, the music was almost always superb. He was a very well respected musician overall. Glad you are warming up to him!
The drumming in Packard Goose is redicoulis. Impossible to count. The before Carey stuff. Love it if someone would try copy this on some skins.
Well, Jim. Had to prep for this by reminding myself were we'd got to.... so had to go back and relisten to all the prior Acts. Brilliant! :)
Um, when Act III done... what next? Man from Utopia? :)
All of the wow stuff reminds me of some tool stuff. Like Tempest. Very hard to reconcile the math.
You know, Godley/Creme (ex 10cc) have a vocal rap (?) that's a lot like the Scrutinizer, in one of the songs on their "L" album (1978: pre-Joe's Garage) could Zappa have nicked the idea from them? On that same album, there is a song called "Art School Canteen" with a line that goes 'does getting into Zappa, mean getting out of Zen?....' A mutual admiration thing, perhaps?
The only question left is, which came first 2112 or Joe's Garage?
beau-ty = beau-tie (tee hee)
The drumming is this is Daney Carey good.
I've read often that Joe's Garage was in someway an inspired satire based on 2112 by Rush. The stories have similarities but Frank uses black humour to tell the tale. Any truth to this?
Just wait till you jump into Franm Zappa - Just another band from LA
You need to do You Are What You Is
FZ was doing time signature stuff a long time ago.
The line from Mary that is most important is that the Wiz is extinct. You need to listed to You Can't Do that on Stage Anymore Vol1 and there is the live version of Dumb All Over which precedes rap music.
It was a (fender) Stratocaster with a whammy bar making those notes go up and down. Terry Kath used the same type of guitar on Free Form Guitar.
And Chicago was discovered while playing a Zappa song.
@@tixximmi1 title?
@@shyshift I don't know the title. It was made up on the spot but half his stuff could of been done that way. I haven't heard it ever and that was in the early to mid '70s. I think about 73. I searched for anything but never found it. I've discussed it with Dweezil and Travers a good few years back. I was taking the instruments to a pawn shop. Still have the zither and chanter.
@@shyshift If your name was Arjen Anthony Lucassen, I'd stop and look for it. :)
@@tixximmi1 lol
Can't believe you talked over a great guitar part. It is your spot though.
I think Adrian Belew who played with Frank also did a few things with Talking Heads. I think. Could be wrong.
Yeah I kind of remembered hearing that. I know they wanted him but maybe that's when he went with Fripp.
Listening to this 3rd act always drives home the point to me that Mary is really the most important character in the album. She's kind of like the Yoda of the story, at the outset they seem like a silly fool but by the end they have imparted the deepest wisdom. I think its very purposeful that Mary delivers the key monologue of the album.
I remember your review of side one. I think I accused you of listening with liberal ears haha. And that Frank was a conservative portraying degeneracy in it's ugliness. Certainly the album is a warning about state control and a defence of freedom of expression. Great reviews of all sides so far. Looking forward to the final installment.
Yes a self proclaimed conservative.
To me, it's hard to understand or feel this music
Frank Zappa's transitions are ridiculous no one does it better
Hi Jim,
Sorry, I won’t commend on Frank Zappa.
About fourth years ago I concluded his music was incompatible with my taste. I tried again last year but nothing changed. I really don’t like his music.
You probably do so enjoy the ride.
Sheik Yerbouti is so much better than Joe's Garage...more catchy with greater songs, just better overall...I never like this one.
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There’s a lot to like on the channel…. If you like that sort of thing!!! Thanks 😊