i mean compared to someone like me, i would say thats pretty impressive uh, you got any tips? ive been score grinding jordan and i just cant do solo c for some reason
1:58 Actually, according to Steve Ouimette on a comment he replied to, he thought his cover of Same Old Song And Dance was actually pretty good. But it was replaced with the master track because Joe Perry wanted to the master track to be in the game because his son was a big fan of Guitar Hero, not because Ouimette's version was terrible. Ouimette said this in his *The Devil Went Down To Georgia - PART 1 - Behind The Scenes* video. The comment OP asked: _"I wonder what your cover of Same Old Song And Dance sounded like",_ and he replied with _"I remember it being pretty good and the vocalist who did the Steven Tyler parts looked almost exactly like Joe Perry. So strange!"_
2:11 Truth behind the reason why no vocals in Spanish Castle Magic wasn't included because the Jimi Hendrix estate didn't want his vocals to be cover. That's why Jimi shows up as a character in Guitar hero World Tour.
Fun fact: in the Wii and ps2 versions of guitar hero Aerosmith lou from gh3 is an unlockable character. He does NOT appear in the other versions of the game.
4:30 In Rock Band Unplugged for the PSP, that part of the vocal track is even tagged as a solo. As far as I know, it’s the only vocal solo in the entire series.
@@alexrivas1993 There’s a particular part towards the finale where the streak automatically breaks, even if there is no note to strum. I thought maybe there is some kind of a conspiracy theory-inducing invisible note or something.
0:30 I'm pretty sure the song you're thinking of is the GH3 DLC chart of All Nightmare Long on Hard. There's a ton of FC's of Generation Rock on Medium, meanwhile you'll always miss an invisible note near the end of ANL.
Another fun fact. In one Rock band 1 promo you see a group of players playing a beta of Rock band 1, and they're playing the song "Welcome to the jungle." Which was never in the game, even as DLC. In the PS2 version of Rock band 1-2 there is no character creator, venue select or anything like that due to console limitations. on top of that the background animations are not being played in real time using the games engine like in the 360/PS3 version, rather they're pre-recorded videos that are scripted for each song in the game.
More on the thing at 1:20 bc ive owned and worked on one of those types. The example in the vid is incorrect as all Wii LP guitars have those particular screws; the ones being referred to have all of the torx screws on the front as well. The fret pcb and pads are the same as other Wii LPs and can be swapped, but as said the frets cannot be, due to the sides of the frets being slightly offset from normal Wii LPs. However, the frets in these guitars CAN be swapped into 360/PS3 guitars (but not the other way around because 360/PS3 guitars have a blocky U shape on the side, whereas the referenced guitar only has a block). Also these guitars have TG on the pcbs inside.
Funfact, the 5 note chord for Raining Blood is NOT the only 5 note chord in Guitar Hero, in fact, it's not even the only one in Smash Hits. In the Beenox logo, you can see some guitar chart being played as an animation. This was actually in the game as an unused chart and has 5 notes chord at the end, which is also a sustain.
The part about Prince really bothered me back in the day, it's a shame that such a musical genius was so close minded. I don't know how much of his decision was about money and how much was about thinking it prevented people from learning real guitar, but it's a shame nonetheless
If anything guitar hero opened up the world of music to a lot of kids and got them interested in something they otherwise wouldn't have been interested in. How many kids followed through? Probably a small amount but it still stands that a lot of kids got a lot of exposure to the concept of picking up a guitar and having fun to the point they may have at least tried to do it for real.
@@jayphoenixcos3136 100% mate. Most other musicians understood that Guitar Hero made a whole lot of kids try learning an instrument. Prince just didn't really get it
don't know why, but i need part 2 of this .. btw, i just really curious with the people who made the charts on the official games, are they went charting on clone hero sometime ?🤔 their charting skill somewhat high level too
One more fun fact: Mony Mony by Billy Idol (I forgot the game but it was probably a RB game) has the word "'cause" absent from the vocal track, for some reason
Another useless GH fact. Rock and Roll All Nite by KISS is the song with the most appearances across the entire series, appearing in five games. (GH3, On Tour, Smash Hits, WoR DLC & GHTV)
The quality of the GH Live guitars sucking isn't because of the recycled plastics, it's because nobody at activision actually fucking cared about the game
I don’t know exactly how true the same old song and dance fact is I recall Steve Ouimette saying in an interview something along the lines of joe Perry’s son got into guitar hero so Aerosmith asked if they could put a song in the next guitar hero and Steve argued despite the fact that it’s pretty much his job to make covers the original is always better
Bonus fact: the Rhythm charts in GHM weren't for potential Full Band gameplay, they were purely for JH's fretting hand animations, as fretting animations were always automated based on the chart, rather than mocap, and Activision didn't know how to approach it besides making another chart for JH
I feel scammed, it took 16 seconds for the useless information to begin and with a video length of 9 minutes 9 seconds there is no way there was actually 9 minutes and 9 seconds of useless information. Unsubscribed.
GH Smash Hits was renamed to Greatest Hits in Europe & Australia. Here in the UK we had Smash Hits magazine which might be one of the reasons for the name change.
On the "Thunderstrike" note at the end of the Smash Hits chart of Raining Blood. Not only is it the only 5 note chord AND a sustain, but it's also, for some reason, the only single note star power phrase in an official chart (unconfirmed) AND the only star power, and the only star power phrase at the very end of a song. No idea why they did that, but man is it fun to hit the note, whammy the star power, activate star power, and keep whammying until the song ends.
Actually Cheat on The Church's first Star power phrase is only 1 note as well, think GH 1 has a few more but thats the most prominent one i can think of.
@@ThatTonnatoTenrec yeah, I mistyped where I put the "unconfirmed" but it's fixed now. Just watched an FC of that song and holy HELL does it have too many SP phrases.
I wonder what’s the longest sp phrase in terms of both how many notes you have to hit to earn it (I’m guessing red snake on tffaf gh3) and the longest it takes on time (I know one of the tool songs has a disgustingly long sustain)
I just tested, and I FCed Generation Rock on medium on gh3 ps2. So I dunno why it would be considered unfcable. The explanation "forcing attempting to occur" also went over my head. Got gold stars and everything. Explain pls?
it may be only on the xbox 360 version, forcing is when a hopo becomes a strum when it shouldn't naturally - when that happens on no note, it makes a fake note which can't be hit.
Anyone know amongst all dlc, instruments, difficulty, and ect. How many songs are either un FC able or very difficult to due to one reason or another in guitar hero and rock band?
If you ever do a sequel to this, the Easy chart of Holy Wars: the Punishment Due on GH:WoR was one blue note. To my knowledge, this is the only song in the series with this quirk. (probably irrelevant, but I played the Wii version of this game, so if the charts are different on other versions for some reason that might help).
i think the neck specifically on GHL guitars is made from recycled plastic lmao. The bodies really arent that bad but those necks and frets are pure trash.
Hey, I remember when you were asking us on twitter for something around this, finally got to it I see, nice :) Honestly loved this! Always tests to see what I know throughout GH/RB/CH as a whole !
do you still use a WT wiitar as of now? I was planning on getting a better wiitar aside from my les paul but I don't know what is an objectively better guitar than my current one
Wait a sec so raining blood was the only song in existence that had a 5 note chord? ( discluding customs) interesting 🤔 no wonder I had such a hard time finding another song that had them. How many if any songs had 4 notes? I can’t recall seeing any of those tbh
@@AbyssionQC dang I’ll have to look into that I don’t remember them being in “ I’m the one “ but I hardly play the song so that could be why. And never really played bass
If I remember correctly the same applies for the guitar hero 3 arcade editions too, the tip is “no need to fret, just strum” so likely it displays fretting but doesn’t check for it at all. I used to have WT so I sadly can’t test this right now
gh3's active hit window is effectively 100ms for things above 40nps, CH's active hit window is usually 100 for most players, though people with negative video settings can make use of the full 140ms ch has
@@Frif Wow thats interesting, I've always felt like negative video settings makes tapping sections legitimately easier, is it because its easier to take advantage of the 140ms hit window?
A fair amount of this was actually fascinating.
3:01 lol. It’s actually funny how not impressive that feels now lol.
i mean compared to someone like me, i would say thats pretty impressive
uh, you got any tips? ive been score grinding jordan and i just cant do solo c for some reason
"Oh wait, most of you are already subscribed" What a flex lmfao
Not really a flex, more saying that he has almost nobody new come to his videos
@@BoltTheEmolga his subs too loyal
1:58 Actually, according to Steve Ouimette on a comment he replied to, he thought his cover of Same Old Song And Dance was actually pretty good. But it was replaced with the master track because Joe Perry wanted to the master track to be in the game because his son was a big fan of Guitar Hero, not because Ouimette's version was terrible. Ouimette said this in his *The Devil Went Down To Georgia - PART 1 - Behind The Scenes* video. The comment OP asked: _"I wonder what your cover of Same Old Song And Dance sounded like",_ and he replied with _"I remember it being pretty good and the vocalist who did the Steven Tyler parts looked almost exactly like Joe Perry. So strange!"_
2:11 Truth behind the reason why no vocals in Spanish Castle Magic wasn't included because the Jimi Hendrix estate didn't want his vocals to be cover. That's why Jimi shows up as a character in Guitar hero World Tour.
Fun fact: in the Wii and ps2 versions of guitar hero Aerosmith lou from gh3 is an unlockable character. He does NOT appear in the other versions of the game.
4:30 In Rock Band Unplugged for the PSP, that part of the vocal track is even tagged as a solo.
As far as I know, it’s the only vocal solo in the entire series.
Another fact: You can’t FC “I Can’t Drive 55” expert bass chart in GHOT Decades because of a technical error towards the end.
Really? No matter how hard you try 😂
@@alexrivas1993 There’s a particular part towards the finale where the streak automatically breaks, even if there is no note to strum. I thought maybe there is some kind of a conspiracy theory-inducing invisible note or something.
You not accidentally over strumming without realizing r u? Ill have to look up a video on why 😂
@@alexrivas1993 It's probably similar to the Pantera Rock revolution glitches
May be a double note that is invisible
0:30 I'm pretty sure the song you're thinking of is the GH3 DLC chart of All Nightmare Long on Hard. There's a ton of FC's of Generation Rock on Medium, meanwhile you'll always miss an invisible note near the end of ANL.
Another fun fact.
In one Rock band 1 promo you see a group of players playing a beta of Rock band 1, and they're playing the song "Welcome to the jungle." Which was never in the game, even as DLC.
In the PS2 version of Rock band 1-2 there is no character creator, venue select or anything like that due to console limitations. on top of that the background animations are not being played in real time using the games engine like in the 360/PS3 version, rather they're pre-recorded videos that are scripted for each song in the game.
More on the thing at 1:20 bc ive owned and worked on one of those types. The example in the vid is incorrect as all Wii LP guitars have those particular screws; the ones being referred to have all of the torx screws on the front as well. The fret pcb and pads are the same as other Wii LPs and can be swapped, but as said the frets cannot be, due to the sides of the frets being slightly offset from normal Wii LPs. However, the frets in these guitars CAN be swapped into 360/PS3 guitars (but not the other way around because 360/PS3 guitars have a blocky U shape on the side, whereas the referenced guitar only has a block). Also these guitars have TG on the pcbs inside.
There’s also a different chart for Free Bird on the Wii version of GH5. (The PS3 and Xbox versions got the Smash Hits chart)
I really enjoyed this! If you do another one of these, you should talk about the scrapped GH7 and the 6 fret guitar with the purple fret button
Funfact, the 5 note chord for Raining Blood is NOT the only 5 note chord in Guitar Hero, in fact, it's not even the only one in Smash Hits. In the Beenox logo, you can see some guitar chart being played as an animation. This was actually in the game as an unused chart and has 5 notes chord at the end, which is also a sustain.
That was never in the game officially
Good stuff
This was very entertaining and I would definitely watch more vids like this!
I thought the lyrics for Spanish Castle Magic were removed because the Jimi Hendrix estate just didn't want anyone to impersonate him.
this was probably the most painful video to find footage for that I’ve worked on so far
The part about Prince really bothered me back in the day, it's a shame that such a musical genius was so close minded. I don't know how much of his decision was about money and how much was about thinking it prevented people from learning real guitar, but it's a shame nonetheless
If anything guitar hero opened up the world of music to a lot of kids and got them interested in something they otherwise wouldn't have been interested in. How many kids followed through? Probably a small amount but it still stands that a lot of kids got a lot of exposure to the concept of picking up a guitar and having fun to the point they may have at least tried to do it for real.
@@jayphoenixcos3136 100% mate. Most other musicians understood that Guitar Hero made a whole lot of kids try learning an instrument. Prince just didn't really get it
jokes on him, him customs of Prince songs were made, and he didnt get a damn dime.
don't know why, but i need part 2 of this ..
btw, i just really curious with the people who made the charts on the official games,
are they went charting on clone hero sometime ?🤔
their charting skill somewhat high level too
It's funny how they removed a few Guitar Hero tracks from wavegroup because they were bad, yet left the vocals from laid to rest in GH2.
Now I know what is the 69th note in closer. I'm complete.
actually insanely fascinating. hoping for a part 2 :)
i will not be having a day, frif, instead, i’m having a night.
7:42 how would negative speed work otherwise? would it play the song backwards at your speed of choice? would be a interesting mechanic
-creepypasta mode-
I think it would play backwards, I dont think the audio engine could handle reversing audio tho
6:45
Also 2 songs in Guitar Hero 2's main Setlist are console exclusive
Both The Trooper and Dead! Are not available on PS2, but are on 360
Billion Dollar Babies is also exclusive to the Xbox 360 release if i remember right
There are 10 songs more on 360 version in the main setlist
This is actually really interesting, would love to see something like this again
There's a WoR DLC song that's impossible to FC on all platforms but the Wii, because of a corrupted note.
Actually this is 9 minutes and 9 seconds of radome guitar hero facts!
My friend, did you forget about the five note sustain in the Beenox Logo song?
4:55 Wavegroup also gets credited in all of the DS games
One more fun fact: Mony Mony by Billy Idol (I forgot the game but it was probably a RB game) has the word "'cause" absent from the vocal track, for some reason
Sustains would still drop if you paused in GH3. They never let you hold sustains on a pause til WT.
Another useless GH fact. Rock and Roll All Nite by KISS is the song with the most appearances across the entire series, appearing in five games. (GH3, On Tour, Smash Hits, WoR DLC & GHTV)
The guy from 3:00 who fced that song also recently helped save a presses from the Super Mario 64 A button challenge
The quality of the GH Live guitars sucking isn't because of the recycled plastics, it's because nobody at activision actually fucking cared about the game
everybody gangsta until a white person 100% fcs juice by lizzo vocals
I don’t know exactly how true the same old song and dance fact is I recall Steve Ouimette saying in an interview something along the lines of joe Perry’s son got into guitar hero so Aerosmith asked if they could put a song in the next guitar hero and Steve argued despite the fact that it’s pretty much his job to make covers the original is always better
The fact about Medium Generation rock being unFCable should be digged deeper and shown in gameplay
Bonus fact: the Rhythm charts in GHM weren't for potential Full Band gameplay, they were purely for JH's fretting hand animations, as fretting animations were always automated based on the chart, rather than mocap, and Activision didn't know how to approach it besides making another chart for JH
I feel scammed, it took 16 seconds for the useless information to begin and with a video length of 9 minutes 9 seconds there is no way there was actually 9 minutes and 9 seconds of useless information. Unsubscribed.
maaaaan seeing gh3cp was a huge throwback
The cure for my raging autism
@8:39 this fact blows my mind. The og goat right there
I can't wait to see how many times I'm gonna say "Wow, I actually knew that already."
8:08microphone quality said 📉
GH Smash Hits was renamed to Greatest Hits in Europe & Australia. Here in the UK we had Smash Hits magazine which might be one of the reasons for the name change.
Trademarking of course
this is the kind of trivia i life for
7:55 I distinctly remember that 5 note chord being present on GH3 for ps2
Nope. On all consoles, for GH3 it is a 3 note chord (red, yellow, and blue.) The Smash Hits chart has the 5 note chord.
I feel so informed about information now
Thank you for reminding me the horrors of using GH3CP back in the day
useful information to me, i love this type of videos!
On the "Thunderstrike" note at the end of the Smash Hits chart of Raining Blood. Not only is it the only 5 note chord AND a sustain, but it's also, for some reason, the only single note star power phrase in an official chart (unconfirmed) AND the only star power, and the only star power phrase at the very end of a song. No idea why they did that, but man is it fun to hit the note, whammy the star power, activate star power, and keep whammying until the song ends.
Actually Cheat on The Church's first Star power phrase is only 1 note as well, think GH 1 has a few more but thats the most prominent one i can think of.
@@ThatTonnatoTenrec yeah, I mistyped where I put the "unconfirmed" but it's fixed now. Just watched an FC of that song and holy HELL does it have too many SP phrases.
@@ragepoweredgamer Thats GH 1 for you, well alot of the time at least.
@@ThatTonnatoTenrec I only got to play like 4 songs on that game. I got it used years ago and PS2 gh discs have problems
I wonder what’s the longest sp phrase in terms of both how many notes you have to hit to earn it (I’m guessing red snake on tffaf gh3) and the longest it takes on time (I know one of the tool songs has a disgustingly long sustain)
0:30 Maybe only on console? The chart isn't broken on PC at least
bro the surprise that hit me when i heard a god of war song was in gh3
"Due to forcing attempting to occur?" What?
forcing is when a note is "forced" to flip it's orientation from hopo to strum or strum to hopo
@@Frif I just fced generation rock on medium
Brilliance
Useless information my ass i like this
Thank goodness for the 6 fret arduinos
Prince: Why don’t you play real guitar?
So THAT is why he used a World Tour Wiitar for 90% of his career.
I just tested, and I FCed Generation Rock on medium on gh3 ps2. So I dunno why it would be considered unfcable. The explanation "forcing attempting to occur" also went over my head. Got gold stars and everything. Explain pls?
it may be only on the xbox 360 version, forcing is when a hopo becomes a strum when it shouldn't naturally - when that happens on no note, it makes a fake note which can't be hit.
@@Frif Ah, that makes more sense to me now. Thanks for the explanation.
Joke's in you, Prince. A lot of us picked up a real guitar after playing GH.
This is awesome I loved this video so much
We NEED the Antvenom Jordan footage (if it exists).
Anyone know amongst all dlc, instruments, difficulty, and ect. How many songs are either un FC able or very difficult to due to one reason or another in guitar hero and rock band?
The only one I know is one way or another in guitar hero WT
the catalyst medium guitar on ps3 and xb360, and all nightmare long hard on gh3
what the heck is a cleveland steamer?????
a shit log
Someone shits on your chest and then grinds on it
Source on the plastic bottle GH guitars?
If you ever do a sequel to this, the Easy chart of Holy Wars: the Punishment Due on GH:WoR was one blue note. To my knowledge, this is the only song in the series with this quirk. (probably irrelevant, but I played the Wii version of this game, so if the charts are different on other versions for some reason that might help).
Nop arterial black also has the same thing
GH3's Go That Far on Easy has a blue note in it too
there's also a song in gh1 that have multiple blue notes
but what's rarer is Orange in medium
Part 2, please?! :D
Prevail 110 was never be FCd
i think the neck specifically on GHL guitars is made from recycled plastic lmao. The bodies really arent that bad but those necks and frets are pure trash.
Very enjoyable video thanks
Hey, I remember when you were asking us on twitter for something around this, finally got to it I see, nice :) Honestly loved this! Always tests to see what I know throughout GH/RB/CH as a whole !
Now I can die in peace
do you still use a WT wiitar as of now? I was planning on getting a better wiitar aside from my les paul but I don't know what is an objectively better guitar than my current one
I prefer the WT, yes
main difference youll find between wtars and wiitars for more casual players is the shape
Wait a sec so raining blood was the only song in existence that had a 5 note chord? ( discluding customs) interesting 🤔 no wonder I had such a hard time finding another song that had them. How many if any songs had 4 notes? I can’t recall seeing any of those tbh
I believe the only two songs with 4 notes chords are I'm the One on expert guitar (GHVH) and go that far on expert bass (GH3)
@@AbyssionQC dang I’ll have to look into that I don’t remember them being in “ I’m the one “ but I hardly play the song so that could be why. And never really played bass
master of puppets on ghm and joe perry guitar battle on gha both had one at the end
@@lunalawl really? Dang I must not pay attention much tbh
@@lunalawl well they are rare chords so probably why I easily miss them when they do show up
How many microphones do you have jeez
the video has a duration of 9 minutes and 8 seconds
the title says 9 minutes and 9 seconds
video says 9 minutes and 6 seconds
im confused
In Vegas it was 9 minutes and 6 seconds, the render was 9 minutes and 6 seconds, on youtube it’s 9 minutes and 9 seconds
youtube is weird
1:45 what is a parenthetical
I needed this
Thanx son
how is trogdor being unfcable on unmodded ntsc useless information?
because most modern ch players don't care about gh2 and won't play it outside of gh2dx, which has no strum limit
where do i get a high hz guitar?
ant venom FC’d jordan solo
Didn’t world tour also feature open notes in the beginner difficulty?
They're actually called rainbow notes. They can be played as open notes, but you can still fret them, so not actually open notes.
@@jloe01 oh i never knew you could fret those
If I remember correctly the same applies for the guitar hero 3 arcade editions too, the tip is “no need to fret, just strum” so likely it displays fretting but doesn’t check for it at all. I used to have WT so I sadly can’t test this right now
Idk what you’re talking about Trogdor, plenty of people have gotten -1 runs on NTSC, even back in the day.
Wasnt the first solo fc by someone who lived in Kentucky?
On ntsc devices trogdor is -
Trogdor got fc'd
thanks mccully95gh
0:30 Those notes aren’t small enough
I'll bet your clon account has at least 1 level 69 red note.
I want to see frif full game fc gh1
Also you can Play gh3
2:22 What mod is that?
clone hero
@@KieranDurand thanks
@@KieranDurand thanks
From personal experience GH lives strumbar was the best feeling guitar hero strum bar. Too bad it was for gh live and not a good game instead
5:05 no wonder they are doodoo
Not very good fact checking, but entertaining anyway
So gh3 IS harder than clone hero?
gh3's active hit window is effectively 100ms for things above 40nps, CH's active hit window is usually 100 for most players, though people with negative video settings can make use of the full 140ms ch has
@@Frif Wow thats interesting, I've always felt like negative video settings makes tapping sections legitimately easier, is it because its easier to take advantage of the 140ms hit window?
Aight, imma gonna have to call you out on this one.
Some of this information was useful. This is false advertising.
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