Electrifying things like these that drive specific routes every day or every other day makes a lot of sense. Saves on fuel and maintenance costs. I am guessing the pump running the arm is the same of the ICE version? And the only reason we never heard it was because the engine noise was louder?
Nice work! That pump is noisy! Cool to see a Rapid Rail from EJ! Do you know if the City Of San Diego is still going to be buying the Battle Motors/ CCC Pakmors for the Alley routes, or will they be a different chassis? Nice work!
Thanks Jay! I honestly don't know. The ones they have right now are somewhat recent so I think they're still a few years away before they are scheduled for replacement.
I appreciate your detailed description and the truck is sharp looking, but hope something like that never makes it's may to CT lol. It would never work at the company I'm at since we do 150 miles per day and some garbage routes are between 22-25 tons a day.
well what can i say? Not a big fan of electric - older diesel or even LNG is better. But a very unique truck here, i can see many other companies buying them. Quick question: do you have any rehrig mini bins left you're willing to sell?
Still not sure how i feel about electric garbage trucks yet, but they sure are quite lol. Truck moved decently. Cool seeing am electric powered RR. Rumor has it Henderson is gonna get some electric trucks although im not sure when, but its a rumor going around...
I was very surprised at just how quiet the whole truck is, hydraulic system included. Garbage day just won't be the same without a roaring truck. Hope you can get some video! Surprised they're testing them out in Nevada
Very good and articulate description of the vehicle and information on it's spec. I appreciate you touched on weight and trade-offs for such a platform. I love the quietness, not so much the trade offs so I don't know how convinced I am on this propulsion method. I think the real issue here is the fascia 😂. With a face like that I understand whole heartedly Battle Motors ain't getting many orders these days. The CEO comes off as too "silicon-valley"-ey. The rebrand was a HORRIBLE idea. Terrible execution. Lost all the cute last-century grill-less appeal that the CCC fascia had, especially with the charm of the wide-space headlights on the clean featureless fascia. I think MACK may with this electric municipal vehicle war; however if you had to ask me - if you may recall two cities here tried out an electric garbage truck before around 2019?, one with LA City and one with the desert, with both retired or returned. I spoke with an LAFD Mechanic who had knowledge on the garbage truck, but I can't recall specifics on what happened and how in regards to the LA City rig. I know the LA City rig just sits in a city lot. I appreciate refuse fans always diving deeper in understanding why thing are the way they are, and taking the time to dissect reasoning and operations. I interact with fire buffs and too many people are quick to defend or attack LA City's electric fire truck. They either soak up the manufacturer's overblown marketing "new cutting edge technology" pitches without dissection or asking questions, or detract electric propulsion without knowing why electric propulsion may be bad/don't back up the detraction. I'm always talking about how fire apparatus spec'ing literacy is almost completely gone these days but now I see it went to the refuse world 😂.
thank you for the detailed comment! I still think it is up in the air which company produces the best electric truck. There is still so much that manufactures need to improve upon before they actually become a viable option, such as adding more battery cells but also maximizing the payload at the same time. It's cool to say you have a truck in your fleet but it's not so cool when the drivers have to drive back to the yard to sit and recharge for an hour or two. You have to go into EV trucks with an open mind. Forget what everyone else has to say and listen to the driver and others that are actually in these rigs for 8-10 hours a day.
@@zp12684 You know; I did that with LAFD's people (go with an open mind, and listening to the driver) in regards to their electric fire truck - and I realized everything they described that they enjoyed about the rig was 1:1 inline with a stereotypical CAL FIRE Wildland/Urban-Interface spec'd engine. NOW KEEP IN MIND there are people all the way up to Operations to men at the station on the rig that sit on the pro or anti sides for this one rig. This encounter and realization was another symptom of the increasing apathy and lack of engagement in the RFP/ordering-a-fire-truck process that plagues modern that you can observe these days. In addition you also see a lot of departments not knowing what is possible with their rigs, what is possible to buy (whats on the market?), or feeling like they can experiment with different configurations and additions. I love that the people who love the electric fire truck up at LAFD love it, but I don't think they understand they at the luck-of-the-draw got a smorgasbord of common aspects you can get on a rig (fascia mounted deluge gun, short wheel base, tight cramp angle, booster reel, etc) that they would have otherwise never have gotten due to apathy or lack of interest/knowledge with their apparatus committees. The people who like it like but they just don't know that there's an entire county to the east whole's entire fleet is spec'd just like their electric engine and solves some of the short comings (distance, hose load configuration, compartmentalization, etc). Mean while the people who hate it just hate and no explanation is need 😂. Like; I hate it, and they too hate it, but I do think they hate it for the wrong reasons. We did the same math problem, got the same answer, but the way we got there was completely different. Going back to the open mind doctrine; I do think there is a place for electric trucks, but to not be "OMG! NEW TECHNOLOGY IT MUST MEAN ITS GOOD AND THE FUTURE AND EVERYTHING MUST BE THIS AND ONLY THIS FROM NOW ON!" and to have the real discipline in procurement and analyzing your operations "do we REALLY need this? Will this REALLY help?" is a whole other can of worms I think most organizations need to master AND receive-agency-from municipalities who on the part of politicians order EV vehicles as an optics play rather than a logical operations play.
A majority of side load garbage trucks in America are right hand drive so the drivers can be on the same side as the carts are. Left hand drive isn't unheard of but it depends on the hauler/city policies
You mean switching back to Rapid rail ASL'S cause it wasn't the first time EJ Harrison had Rapid rail ASL'S sense I remember two EJ Harrison Rapid rail ASL'S came to my grandma's house back in the day one unknown older xeptior Rapid rail ASL with no door that had the wacky Harrison arm & the exhaust pipe on curb side of the truck that picked up my grandma's recycle/yard waste the other one was a flat nose international Rapid rail ASL with the regular Rapid rail arm and had a door and a rain cap exhaust pipe on the curb side of the truck that picked up my grandma's trash.
Finally an electric truck that still got that OG feeling i wish europe could learn something
Electrifying things like these that drive specific routes every day or every other day makes a lot of sense. Saves on fuel and maintenance costs.
I am guessing the pump running the arm is the same of the ICE version? And the only reason we never heard it was because the engine noise was louder?
im not that much of an Electric fan but this truck sure seems cool
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
One of the coolest electric trucks! Awesome video as always.
Thanks! I think Battle has the best electric unit on the market as of now
@@zp12684 No problem!
Please tell me you were able to get a full video of 232 as well that day?
I did not. Just went up to film this truck
Nice work! That pump is noisy! Cool to see a Rapid Rail from EJ! Do you know if the City Of San Diego is still going to be buying the Battle Motors/ CCC Pakmors for the Alley routes, or will they be a different chassis? Nice work!
Thanks Jay! I honestly don't know. The ones they have right now are somewhat recent so I think they're still a few years away before they are scheduled for replacement.
I don’t think the City even knows what they’ll do yet
@@zp12684Thats kind of what I had figured, thanks!
This truck picks up speed fast
I appreciate your detailed description and the truck is sharp looking, but hope something like that never makes it's may to CT lol. It would never work at the company I'm at since we do 150 miles per day and some garbage routes are between 22-25 tons a day.
Thank you! These trucks definitely have a long way to go before they ever become mainstream in the market
@@zp12684 Your welcome. Lol, I would have to charge it twice just to do my Monday route today, 182 miles!
well what can i say? Not a big fan of electric - older diesel or even LNG is better. But a very unique truck here, i can see many other companies buying them.
Quick question: do you have any rehrig mini bins left you're willing to sell?
Hopefully the haulers and cities that tested it like it enough to buy it! And I do not at the moment.
@@zp12684 i wonder if they will make electric msl's
Awesome video man this truck is cool.
Thanks!
@@zp12684 no problem.
They sound cool
Nice capture never seen that cab.
Thanks! Brand new cab just hit the market
Will this outperform BYD garbage trucks
Probably, that isn’t hard to do
Yo, I think this truck is from the future
Still not sure how i feel about electric garbage trucks yet, but they sure are quite lol. Truck moved decently. Cool seeing am electric powered RR. Rumor has it Henderson is gonna get some electric trucks although im not sure when, but its a rumor going around...
I was very surprised at just how quiet the whole truck is, hydraulic system included. Garbage day just won't be the same without a roaring truck. Hope you can get some video! Surprised they're testing them out in Nevada
Very good and articulate description of the vehicle and information on it's spec. I appreciate you touched on weight and trade-offs for such a platform. I love the quietness, not so much the trade offs so I don't know how convinced I am on this propulsion method.
I think the real issue here is the fascia 😂. With a face like that I understand whole heartedly Battle Motors ain't getting many orders these days. The CEO comes off as too "silicon-valley"-ey. The rebrand was a HORRIBLE idea. Terrible execution. Lost all the cute last-century grill-less appeal that the CCC fascia had, especially with the charm of the wide-space headlights on the clean featureless fascia.
I think MACK may with this electric municipal vehicle war; however if you had to ask me - if you may recall two cities here tried out an electric garbage truck before around 2019?, one with LA City and one with the desert, with both retired or returned. I spoke with an LAFD Mechanic who had knowledge on the garbage truck, but I can't recall specifics on what happened and how in regards to the LA City rig. I know the LA City rig just sits in a city lot.
I appreciate refuse fans always diving deeper in understanding why thing are the way they are, and taking the time to dissect reasoning and operations. I interact with fire buffs and too many people are quick to defend or attack LA City's electric fire truck. They either soak up the manufacturer's overblown marketing "new cutting edge technology" pitches without dissection or asking questions, or detract electric propulsion without knowing why electric propulsion may be bad/don't back up the detraction. I'm always talking about how fire apparatus spec'ing literacy is almost completely gone these days but now I see it went to the refuse world 😂.
thank you for the detailed comment! I still think it is up in the air which company produces the best electric truck. There is still so much that manufactures need to improve upon before they actually become a viable option, such as adding more battery cells but also maximizing the payload at the same time. It's cool to say you have a truck in your fleet but it's not so cool when the drivers have to drive back to the yard to sit and recharge for an hour or two. You have to go into EV trucks with an open mind. Forget what everyone else has to say and listen to the driver and others that are actually in these rigs for 8-10 hours a day.
@@zp12684 You know; I did that with LAFD's people (go with an open mind, and listening to the driver) in regards to their electric fire truck - and I realized everything they described that they enjoyed about the rig was 1:1 inline with a stereotypical CAL FIRE Wildland/Urban-Interface spec'd engine.
NOW KEEP IN MIND there are people all the way up to Operations to men at the station on the rig that sit on the pro or anti sides for this one rig. This encounter and realization was another symptom of the increasing apathy and lack of engagement in the RFP/ordering-a-fire-truck process that plagues modern that you can observe these days.
In addition you also see a lot of departments not knowing what is possible with their rigs, what is possible to buy (whats on the market?), or feeling like they can experiment with different configurations and additions.
I love that the people who love the electric fire truck up at LAFD love it, but I don't think they understand they at the luck-of-the-draw got a smorgasbord of common aspects you can get on a rig (fascia mounted deluge gun, short wheel base, tight cramp angle, booster reel, etc) that they would have otherwise never have gotten due to apathy or lack of interest/knowledge with their apparatus committees.
The people who like it like but they just don't know that there's an entire county to the east whole's entire fleet is spec'd just like their electric engine and solves some of the short comings (distance, hose load configuration, compartmentalization, etc). Mean while the people who hate it just hate and no explanation is need 😂. Like; I hate it, and they too hate it, but I do think they hate it for the wrong reasons. We did the same math problem, got the same answer, but the way we got there was completely different.
Going back to the open mind doctrine; I do think there is a place for electric trucks, but to not be "OMG! NEW TECHNOLOGY IT MUST MEAN ITS GOOD AND THE FUTURE AND EVERYTHING MUST BE THIS AND ONLY THIS FROM NOW ON!" and to have the real discipline in procurement and analyzing your operations "do we REALLY need this? Will this REALLY help?" is a whole other can of worms I think most organizations need to master AND receive-agency-from municipalities who on the part of politicians order EV vehicles as an optics play rather than a logical operations play.
Is this the 1st electric RR to hit the market?
As far as I know, yes.
3:29 thats better
They only drive from the right side that’s kind of weird because in America we drive on the left this truck is very futuristic
A majority of side load garbage trucks in America are right hand drive so the drivers can be on the same side as the carts are. Left hand drive isn't unheard of but it depends on the hauler/city policies
@@zp12684 I know that some of them drive on the right side but normally there’s one on both sides
The chassis/power train of the future, yes. But the body? I hope not.
Agreed... body could use a lot of improvements.
Some of these new electric truck designs are trash but I don’t mind this model
Yeah this one got that diesel feeling
future ej harrsion meybe they switching to rapid rials
You mean switching back to Rapid rail ASL'S cause it wasn't the first time EJ Harrison had Rapid rail ASL'S sense I remember two EJ Harrison Rapid rail ASL'S came to my grandma's house back in the day one unknown older xeptior Rapid rail ASL with no door that had the wacky Harrison arm & the exhaust pipe on curb side of the truck that picked up my grandma's recycle/yard waste the other one was a flat nose international Rapid rail ASL with the regular Rapid rail arm and had a door and a rain cap exhaust pipe on the curb side of the truck that picked up my grandma's trash.
@@garbagetruckspsl8522 alright
The arm is actually louder then the idle of the truck, very unusual
Trust me, when a new truck with an older curroto is picking up out here, its not the idle thats gonna be clanging back/forth and waking everyone up.
Not a fan of it the battle motors cab I really hope not 🤮
You dont see the beauty in it
range of 80 miles lol