The speed is in the detail - Argon 18 E117e overhaul
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2024
- We prepare an Argon 18 E117 disc frame ready for the 2024 Time Trial season. We overhaul all the details making sure that no area of the bike is bleeding potential speed. Our brief was to simply make it faster. We show you all the close up details of the work we did.
We change out the bearings of the @zippspeed Super 9 rear wheel with NTN Low contact bearings.
The front wheel uses a new Tri Spoke from Evolve Aero - the Revolver Wheels
We switched out the battered old @BBInfinite Bottom Bracket with a new one. This is still running a little stiff for some reason.
The chains were waxed in a Teflon, PTFE infused Concoction for maximum environmental unfriendliness, but maximum slipperiness.
We fitted the massive 60t chain ring from Alugear
The Enigma bars and extensions are from Watt Shop. Probably the best way to achieve a robust and stiff cockpit with the Prey Mantis riding position.
Tyres are the Michelin Power Time Trials in 25mm with Tubalito Inner tubes.
00:10 The Parts We are Fitting
05:11 Fine Tuning
07:52 Conclusion - Спорт
You know when it's an expensive bike when you have 2 bike stands just to be safe 😂
Also when they instantly send you replacement prototype parts with updated suggestions!
TT bikes have so much weight in the bars - they are just not stable when stationary. Without the second stand it would just fall over…
I enjoy most if not all of your content. But this has to be your best yet; the set-up, build, history of the bike, the owners story and the conclusion. Id love to see more videos like this 👍
Thank you.
I can never quite bring myself to describe a TT as "beautiful" but some of them sure look incredibly cool.
Im sure no air force radar could detect this stealth machine! 😎👍📸
so they say
@Mapdec they do indeed, Paul ! 👌a rather special bike weapon of choice !
I could imagine the legendary Alf Engers breaking the land speed record on that beast 👍👍
It looks like a spaceship! Amazing skill building such a specific machine.
Thank you very much!
Proper bike shop content, ❤ it.
As a bicycle mechanic, I am amazed and inspired by your work. Thanks for sharing.
Cool. Thank you.
Maybe the most beautiful bike ive ever seen!
Wireless blips are your friend especially with some of the blip holder 3d print models out there. No need for Blip box after initial setup ❤
what a spaceship
Hi love the UA-cam channel very informative and you genuinely are out there to help and fix our bikes, unlike most cycle shops that just want to sell us new parts and components and do what ever is easiest and makes them the most money rather than fix And do what's best for the customer. I watched a video you did the other day but can not find it, what grease do you recommend for general bearings ie paddles and steering head bearings. Keep up the great work, shame your no my local mechanic .👍👍
Thanks. We use mobil XHP222 for moving surfaces like bearings, and Maxima Assembly Grease for threads.
That is a monster chain ring on that bike! Even the easiest gear must be quite hard to get turning 😄 A real shame that the stem cover had to be doctored to make room for the BlipBox but it is at least mostly integrated this way.
that chainring tho...
btw. there is a black valve version of the tubolito tube ;)
Very nice build! Looks fast AF.
I hope so..
Lovely rig. Get a differnt brand chain on and you've saved a few more watts too. Sram always seem to underperform compared to other manufacturers
How the 2 chains were linked would be interesting as not every company do 12speed joining pins. Campagnolo do i think.
Yeah. Every brand has split pins now. You have to buy campag ones separately
SRAM really needs to make their Blip buttons with longer wires. I had to do a similar modification on a Bolide just to get the Box into a position where the wires wouldn’t unplug when the bars turned. If I had 100-200mm more I could have just run it in the top tube box
What an amazing build. Finally realizing how sick an aero coach cockpit is. Thanks for the demo! Blip box not even being an afterthought on most frames is so frustrating. I like how canyon did it on their higher end tri models.
I ended up diy-extending all my blip shifters, wrapped the blip box in foam and stuck it in my frame using the entry of the old shifter cables.
Its not aero coach
This is a Watt Shop one.
Time to invest into a 3d printer, print yourself that blip box! The possibilities you get with 3d printing just gets you all the way to 100% :)
Winter project maybe.
You could have looked at getting a 3dp top cap to accommodate the blip box, would have saved the Dremel action dn then insulating tape. That chainring is outrageous!
I need to get 3d printing skills.
Scary thing with TT bars is the only standard that needs to be passed by manufacturers is a 20kg static load hanging off the end of the skis test. It's kinda become the wild wild west at the moment and I suspect there will be a major accident that results in a crackdown in this area.
Yes. This prey mantis fashion is generating some sketchy setups.
❤😊
Great video, you didn’t have to cut the cap for the blip box, set of wireless clicks and you can Mount the blip box in the frame or under the seat no wires needed 👍
Yeah. We discussed this. But the wireless blips are quite big and there wasn’t a neat way to mount them on the extensions.
@@Mapdec few companies out there now making so standard fit pole ends housing the clicks, they sit like track hooks really neat.
Great build by the way 👍
Nice TT build. However, I think you don't need Blip-box as long as both rear mech and Blips are both new AXS (those new blips that have no rechargeable battery) with 1x12. You need just any 12sp AXS shifter for pairing and then those blips can function on their own.
Yeah. The new wireless blips are quite bulky and don’t integrate with the extensions so well. We had a really close look at them and decided to keep with the wired option. I hope SRAM improve the wireless blips. I don’t know why they couldn’t be cylindrical shaped with batteries that fit inside the bar ends. They kind of did it with the Zipp Zuka bar, but you can’t buy separately
@@Mapdec there is third party with nice alternative for those integrations and even comes with an angle :) company called Leap Components. Never tried them but looks neat and not that expensive. Cheers
@@raimondaszigutis5617 I just looked them up. Some interesting stuff. I love that seatpost battery remote.
When will you do a review of the motorized bike stand?
I’ll have a think if I can make it interesting
Great video and set up! Am I correct that you could also skip the blip box entirely and work with two sets of sram wireless blips (both on tt bars and brake levers), as long as you use a blip box or any other sram axs shifter to set it up the first time?
We could, but the wireless blips are quite bulky.
It would be great if you could 3d print that too cap instead of cutting it and putting tape over it.
An up skill opportunity next winter maybe.
I could do one for you@@Mapdec
Hello friend, I have a great question. When I turn the cranks I notice that the chainrings have an oscillation, as if they were misaligned or bent. crankset, chainrings, and frame are new. Check the chairings and the spider of the crankset on a flat surface and they are correct, there are no waviness or bends. The axle enters smoothly through the bottom bracket, rotates smoothly. I turned the spindle of the left crank mounted on the frame and without the chainring, I don't notice that the spindle is twisted. Assemble the complete crankset without chainring, and you can see the oscillation movement in the spider. So I don't know what it could be, or if that movement is normal and to what extent. I have seen this in other cranks of different materials and brands and different frames that I have had, but on this occasion I see that the movement is greater.
Defo not normal. Bring it in if you can.
@@Mapdec I from Colombia dear, What could it be? What do you think?
Wait, Sram don't have 138 or at least 126 link chains? How unfortunate
Very nice bike, and very expensive I believe!
To integrate the blip box, think about 3D printing a specific cover instead of machining it 😉. Nice job but it doesnt match my lovely look 796 monoblade rs😊
Maybe one winter I will get my head around all the software for it.
why didn t you open the blibbox and repack in shrinktube to fit it in inside the hole?
ummm... i wasn't brave enough.
insane bike! could it be the rear tire is on backwards?
or the front, there is no rotation direction, but I just noticed the logos dont match.
@Mapdec it looks like the logos alternate direction? Like if you rotated either a half turn they would line up
Why sram red over force when the force chain has been shown to be significantly faster than red
Has it?
Any other mechanic have a customer ask them to remove the seals in the bearings? Or even older put chain lube in the hubs instead of grease? Marginal gains
yeah, it rarely ends well
Nope. But then at this level I’ll put in fresh bearings as often as they wish. Hell I’m old enough that we put metal polish in ball and cup hubs, made the guys ride 5miles on rollers then cleaned and repacked the hubs. I was trained by the old school guys.
BB could be smoother though.
Yeah. I am going to revisit this after a couple of rides. I hope it is just seal drag because the installation was perfect.
upload in 4k blud
Fantastic build, but I wouldn't be happy with having "dremel modifications" on such an expensive high end build....
I still don't get the need for disc brakes on Time Trial bike, when I was doing TT's I never felt that rim brakes were insufficient on the very minimal times you need to brake on a Time Trial course🤔
If need to do that much braking you have either have wrong idea of a TT or the course is in Wales with loads of 20 MPH zones🙄
I know. But would you rather the blip box dangle on the outside?
I hope that bike does not get used in strong side winds. You would get pushed hard to side of road.
You might be surprised. I've done a lot of miles with a 90mm deep HED front rim, and disk rear and it's fine when in the aero bars. Bit sketchy on the base bar though.
It happens occasionally. Most are very talented riders and can handle a little wind.
That cockpit does not look particularly robust and reassuring with all these bolts holding it in one piece.
Oh, l?
Hi friend, can you help me. When you spin the crankset is normal the
YAWN.......looks like this has become an ego boost for ya mate....you have some "amazing" new tech and the majority of the video is watching you speak........
Er. Isn’t the majority of every video ever made on UA-cam watching someone speak?
@@Mapdec Er nope....only the narcissists I imagine.