The speed is in the detail - Argon 18 E117e overhaul

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  • Опубліковано 13 лют 2024
  • We prepare an Argon 18 E117 disc frame ready for the 2024 Time Trial season. We overhaul all the details making sure that no area of the bike is bleeding potential speed. Our brief was to simply make it faster. We show you all the close up details of the work we did.
    We change out the bearings of the ‪@zippspeed‬ Super 9 rear wheel with NTN Low contact bearings.
    The front wheel uses a new Tri Spoke from Evolve Aero - the Revolver Wheels
    We switched out the battered old ‪@BBInfinite‬ Bottom Bracket with a new one. This is still running a little stiff for some reason.
    The chains were waxed in a Teflon, PTFE infused Concoction for maximum environmental unfriendliness, but maximum slipperiness.
    We fitted the massive 60t chain ring from Alugear
    The Enigma bars and extensions are from Watt Shop. Probably the best way to achieve a robust and stiff cockpit with the Prey Mantis riding position.
    Tyres are the Michelin Power Time Trials in 25mm with Tubalito Inner tubes.
    00:10 The Parts We are Fitting
    05:11 Fine Tuning
    07:52 Conclusion
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  • @markstone722
    @markstone722 5 місяців тому +28

    You know when it's an expensive bike when you have 2 bike stands just to be safe 😂

    • @adamweb
      @adamweb 5 місяців тому +3

      Also when they instantly send you replacement prototype parts with updated suggestions!

    • @workshopninjathe1st
      @workshopninjathe1st 5 місяців тому +1

      TT bikes have so much weight in the bars - they are just not stable when stationary. Without the second stand it would just fall over…

  • @Mikadobiscuits
    @Mikadobiscuits 5 місяців тому +4

    I enjoy most if not all of your content. But this has to be your best yet; the set-up, build, history of the bike, the owners story and the conclusion. Id love to see more videos like this 👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Thank you.

  • @chris1275cc
    @chris1275cc 5 місяців тому +5

    I can never quite bring myself to describe a TT as "beautiful" but some of them sure look incredibly cool.

  • @grahambell9831
    @grahambell9831 5 місяців тому +7

    Im sure no air force radar could detect this stealth machine! 😎👍📸

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +2

      so they say

    • @grahambell9831
      @grahambell9831 5 місяців тому

      @Mapdec they do indeed, Paul ! 👌a rather special bike weapon of choice !

  • @paulhewitt1488
    @paulhewitt1488 5 місяців тому +1

    I could imagine the legendary Alf Engers breaking the land speed record on that beast 👍👍

  • @ramsden35
    @ramsden35 5 місяців тому +2

    It looks like a spaceship! Amazing skill building such a specific machine.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @thecatsonholiday5932
    @thecatsonholiday5932 5 місяців тому +1

    Proper bike shop content, ❤ it.

  • @gonewiththewheels8424
    @gonewiththewheels8424 5 місяців тому

    As a bicycle mechanic, I am amazed and inspired by your work. Thanks for sharing.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Cool. Thank you.

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice 5 місяців тому

    Maybe the most beautiful bike ive ever seen!

  • @jimbo9030
    @jimbo9030 5 місяців тому +2

    Wireless blips are your friend especially with some of the blip holder 3d print models out there. No need for Blip box after initial setup ❤

  • @lizhengzhang
    @lizhengzhang 5 місяців тому

    what a spaceship

  • @jamessharr8095
    @jamessharr8095 2 місяці тому

    Hi love the UA-cam channel very informative and you genuinely are out there to help and fix our bikes, unlike most cycle shops that just want to sell us new parts and components and do what ever is easiest and makes them the most money rather than fix And do what's best for the customer. I watched a video you did the other day but can not find it, what grease do you recommend for general bearings ie paddles and steering head bearings. Keep up the great work, shame your no my local mechanic .👍👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 місяці тому

      Thanks. We use mobil XHP222 for moving surfaces like bearings, and Maxima Assembly Grease for threads.

  • @_J.F_
    @_J.F_ 5 місяців тому

    That is a monster chain ring on that bike! Even the easiest gear must be quite hard to get turning 😄 A real shame that the stem cover had to be doctored to make room for the BlipBox but it is at least mostly integrated this way.

  • @5amba
    @5amba 5 місяців тому

    that chainring tho...
    btw. there is a black valve version of the tubolito tube ;)

  • @TriathlonDan
    @TriathlonDan 5 місяців тому

    Very nice build! Looks fast AF.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      I hope so..

  • @garyosullivan5759
    @garyosullivan5759 5 місяців тому +1

    Lovely rig. Get a differnt brand chain on and you've saved a few more watts too. Sram always seem to underperform compared to other manufacturers

  • @Local.hero.cycling.
    @Local.hero.cycling. 5 місяців тому +1

    How the 2 chains were linked would be interesting as not every company do 12speed joining pins. Campagnolo do i think.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Yeah. Every brand has split pins now. You have to buy campag ones separately

  • @pitchforkmechanic7797
    @pitchforkmechanic7797 5 місяців тому

    SRAM really needs to make their Blip buttons with longer wires. I had to do a similar modification on a Bolide just to get the Box into a position where the wires wouldn’t unplug when the bars turned. If I had 100-200mm more I could have just run it in the top tube box

  • @SaschaRissling
    @SaschaRissling 5 місяців тому

    What an amazing build. Finally realizing how sick an aero coach cockpit is. Thanks for the demo! Blip box not even being an afterthought on most frames is so frustrating. I like how canyon did it on their higher end tri models.
    I ended up diy-extending all my blip shifters, wrapped the blip box in foam and stuck it in my frame using the entry of the old shifter cables.

    • @Duncanclarkeiii
      @Duncanclarkeiii 5 місяців тому +2

      Its not aero coach

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +1

      This is a Watt Shop one.

  • @Horstelin
    @Horstelin 5 місяців тому

    Time to invest into a 3d printer, print yourself that blip box! The possibilities you get with 3d printing just gets you all the way to 100% :)

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Winter project maybe.

  • @ianswinscoe7678
    @ianswinscoe7678 5 місяців тому

    You could have looked at getting a 3dp top cap to accommodate the blip box, would have saved the Dremel action dn then insulating tape. That chainring is outrageous!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      I need to get 3d printing skills.

  • @jimbo9030
    @jimbo9030 5 місяців тому +1

    Scary thing with TT bars is the only standard that needs to be passed by manufacturers is a 20kg static load hanging off the end of the skis test. It's kinda become the wild wild west at the moment and I suspect there will be a major accident that results in a crackdown in this area.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Yes. This prey mantis fashion is generating some sketchy setups.

  • @bb-r5710
    @bb-r5710 5 місяців тому

    ❤😊

  • @alexpurcell238
    @alexpurcell238 5 місяців тому

    Great video, you didn’t have to cut the cap for the blip box, set of wireless clicks and you can Mount the blip box in the frame or under the seat no wires needed 👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Yeah. We discussed this. But the wireless blips are quite big and there wasn’t a neat way to mount them on the extensions.

    • @alexpurcell238
      @alexpurcell238 5 місяців тому

      @@Mapdec few companies out there now making so standard fit pole ends housing the clicks, they sit like track hooks really neat.
      Great build by the way 👍

  • @raimondaszigutis5617
    @raimondaszigutis5617 5 місяців тому

    Nice TT build. However, I think you don't need Blip-box as long as both rear mech and Blips are both new AXS (those new blips that have no rechargeable battery) with 1x12. You need just any 12sp AXS shifter for pairing and then those blips can function on their own.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Yeah. The new wireless blips are quite bulky and don’t integrate with the extensions so well. We had a really close look at them and decided to keep with the wired option. I hope SRAM improve the wireless blips. I don’t know why they couldn’t be cylindrical shaped with batteries that fit inside the bar ends. They kind of did it with the Zipp Zuka bar, but you can’t buy separately

    • @raimondaszigutis5617
      @raimondaszigutis5617 5 місяців тому

      @@Mapdec there is third party with nice alternative for those integrations and even comes with an angle :) company called Leap Components. Never tried them but looks neat and not that expensive. Cheers

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      @@raimondaszigutis5617 I just looked them up. Some interesting stuff. I love that seatpost battery remote.

  • @kennethward9530
    @kennethward9530 5 місяців тому +1

    When will you do a review of the motorized bike stand?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      I’ll have a think if I can make it interesting

  • @koendonkers2575
    @koendonkers2575 4 місяці тому

    Great video and set up! Am I correct that you could also skip the blip box entirely and work with two sets of sram wireless blips (both on tt bars and brake levers), as long as you use a blip box or any other sram axs shifter to set it up the first time?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  4 місяці тому +1

      We could, but the wireless blips are quite bulky.

  • @Speedy.V
    @Speedy.V 5 місяців тому +3

    It would be great if you could 3d print that too cap instead of cutting it and putting tape over it.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +1

      An up skill opportunity next winter maybe.

    • @willhayes1976
      @willhayes1976 5 місяців тому

      I could do one for you@@Mapdec

  • @YisusBike_engineer
    @YisusBike_engineer 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello friend, I have a great question. When I turn the cranks I notice that the chainrings have an oscillation, as if they were misaligned or bent. crankset, chainrings, and frame are new. Check the chairings and the spider of the crankset on a flat surface and they are correct, there are no waviness or bends. The axle enters smoothly through the bottom bracket, rotates smoothly. I turned the spindle of the left crank mounted on the frame and without the chainring, I don't notice that the spindle is twisted. Assemble the complete crankset without chainring, and you can see the oscillation movement in the spider. So I don't know what it could be, or if that movement is normal and to what extent. I have seen this in other cranks of different materials and brands and different frames that I have had, but on this occasion I see that the movement is greater.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +1

      Defo not normal. Bring it in if you can.

    • @YisusBike_engineer
      @YisusBike_engineer 5 місяців тому

      @@Mapdec I from Colombia dear, What could it be? What do you think?

  • @feedbackzaloop
    @feedbackzaloop 5 місяців тому

    Wait, Sram don't have 138 or at least 126 link chains? How unfortunate

  • @merckxy54
    @merckxy54 5 місяців тому

    Very nice bike, and very expensive I believe!

  • @ColdMamba78
    @ColdMamba78 5 місяців тому

    To integrate the blip box, think about 3D printing a specific cover instead of machining it 😉. Nice job but it doesnt match my lovely look 796 monoblade rs😊

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Maybe one winter I will get my head around all the software for it.

  • @Ghostina1
    @Ghostina1 5 місяців тому

    why didn t you open the blibbox and repack in shrinktube to fit it in inside the hole?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +2

      ummm... i wasn't brave enough.

  • @TeunvsT
    @TeunvsT 5 місяців тому

    insane bike! could it be the rear tire is on backwards?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +1

      or the front, there is no rotation direction, but I just noticed the logos dont match.

    • @jacknewcomb6471
      @jacknewcomb6471 5 місяців тому

      ​@Mapdec it looks like the logos alternate direction? Like if you rotated either a half turn they would line up

  • @michaelcawley7400
    @michaelcawley7400 5 місяців тому +3

    Why sram red over force when the force chain has been shown to be significantly faster than red

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Has it?

  • @bbarber6845
    @bbarber6845 5 місяців тому

    Any other mechanic have a customer ask them to remove the seals in the bearings? Or even older put chain lube in the hubs instead of grease? Marginal gains

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +1

      yeah, it rarely ends well

    • @bbarber6845
      @bbarber6845 5 місяців тому +1

      Nope. But then at this level I’ll put in fresh bearings as often as they wish. Hell I’m old enough that we put metal polish in ball and cup hubs, made the guys ride 5miles on rollers then cleaned and repacked the hubs. I was trained by the old school guys.

  • @Penalist
    @Penalist 5 місяців тому +1

    BB could be smoother though.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому +5

      Yeah. I am going to revisit this after a couple of rides. I hope it is just seal drag because the installation was perfect.

  • @wesleyvandeurzen7199
    @wesleyvandeurzen7199 5 місяців тому

    upload in 4k blud

  • @wearejames1
    @wearejames1 5 місяців тому

    Fantastic build, but I wouldn't be happy with having "dremel modifications" on such an expensive high end build....
    I still don't get the need for disc brakes on Time Trial bike, when I was doing TT's I never felt that rim brakes were insufficient on the very minimal times you need to brake on a Time Trial course🤔
    If need to do that much braking you have either have wrong idea of a TT or the course is in Wales with loads of 20 MPH zones🙄

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      I know. But would you rather the blip box dangle on the outside?

  • @marylandflyer5670
    @marylandflyer5670 5 місяців тому

    I hope that bike does not get used in strong side winds. You would get pushed hard to side of road.

    • @hectorkidds9840
      @hectorkidds9840 5 місяців тому

      You might be surprised. I've done a lot of miles with a 90mm deep HED front rim, and disk rear and it's fine when in the aero bars. Bit sketchy on the base bar though.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      It happens occasionally. Most are very talented riders and can handle a little wind.

  • @qwertyazerty2137
    @qwertyazerty2137 5 місяців тому

    That cockpit does not look particularly robust and reassuring with all these bolts holding it in one piece.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Oh, l?

  • @YisusBike_engineer
    @YisusBike_engineer 5 місяців тому

    Hi friend, can you help me. When you spin the crankset is normal the

  • @anthonylarson7919
    @anthonylarson7919 5 місяців тому

    YAWN.......looks like this has become an ego boost for ya mate....you have some "amazing" new tech and the majority of the video is watching you speak........

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      Er. Isn’t the majority of every video ever made on UA-cam watching someone speak?

    • @anthonylarson7919
      @anthonylarson7919 5 місяців тому

      @@Mapdec Er nope....only the narcissists I imagine.