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  • @smrtnz5995
    @smrtnz5995 2 роки тому +1

    As a woman in a male dominated field, I’ve had to think and fabricate means outside the box. Seeing your innovation, creativity and engineering skills is an inspiration, fun for gear heads like me. Thanks

  • @akawireguy1197
    @akawireguy1197 10 років тому +6

    I so admire these guys who can think of a project, engineer it up in their mind, and then fabricate the parts and build it. They are geniuses who don't get the recognition they deserve because they aren't in academia. I spent 8 years in academia and I can tell you Keith is smarter and more capable than 99% of those people.

  • @robstorms1043
    @robstorms1043 11 років тому +11

    Keith, you and your videos are an inspiration way beyond the machining . You share with us an attitude and resourcefulness that helps in many ways throughout life. I am sure glad you decided to make these great programs to give the rest of us a boost. My Dad would have liked and admired you.

    • @KeithFenner
      @KeithFenner  11 років тому

      Thanks for the comment ! ;{)-----

  • @Abom79
    @Abom79 11 років тому +1

    Great job on the press Keith, and I love the throwback pictures! You give a great amount of inspiration to alot of people out there and show what a little bit of ingenuity can produce. Again, good job on the press. I have one that I can call is pretty nice, a Dake 50T manual, but you have given me some good ideas to improve upon.

  • @JDFARM
    @JDFARM 7 років тому

    Like you, I build things with what I find. In the scrap yard I found two matching 10 inch hydraulic cylinders mounted together on a 2 inch steel plate. Cylinders together weigh 900+ pounds. At a farm sale this week end I bought 4 pallets of miscellaneous parts. $51.00 Hydraulic pumps, hoses, and extra cylinders along with a ton of steel, bolts and miscellaneous tools. This should be a beast when I get it put together.
    Watching your video has inspired me with a dozen new ideas for use in the press. As usual, your videos are great and give me food for thought in the building of my back yard machine shop. Thank you; J.D.

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 9 років тому +2

    Hi, Keith- I really enjoy episodes whenever you employ this monster of yours! To hear that motor whine, and watch the ram effortlessly do it's job- it seems that it is an irresistible force (to it's limit) and as always- you don't (on camera anyways) misuse or abuse it's strength. I really admire a Machinist who respects their tools, and takes pride in their workmanship and upkeep with maintenance of them; your tools are extensions of your self.

  • @HoodComVideo
    @HoodComVideo 12 років тому

    I have always wondered about the versatility of a large press. You must have spent hours, days and weeks just playing with the idea....great inspiration....Thank You...

  • @tfp777
    @tfp777 12 років тому

    Very nice. I used the Enerpac you noted with an air over hydraulic pump, a press like this is a necessity for your type of work. I really like the hose end crimper. I had a 12" diameter pipe lined pit in front of the drill press and a vee machined in the table so I could drill the end of a long shaft. Your ideas are great, thanks for sharing with everyone. :-)
    When things got big I turned the job over to the boiler makers, they had a 400 ton press, we also had a horizontal press for long shafts.

  • @warrenwise8127
    @warrenwise8127 11 років тому

    I just scored a 6 metre i beam for $1 as the start to my press, its 500mm by 165mm and 15mm thick in the centre.
    Only catch is I had to use the truck with a crane from work to get it down, but that was easy.
    Its a major over kill but too cheap to pass up.
    The quality of your work is incredibly high, you take so much pride in what your doing, which is in my opinion where quality comes from, thanks for taking the time to teach us.
    Cheers, Waz.

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek 12 років тому

    I may never build a hydraulic press, but I am definitely going to use the chain arrangement for raising both sides of a table. Your videos have given me new impetus to tackle a lot of problems I've been procrastinating on. Thank you kindly!

  • @bcooo1
    @bcooo1 12 років тому

    Excellent video and sound advice. Have been looking to build a press because most of my buddies have destroyed their store bought machines due to overload. I am in the process of gathering parts and material. You just never stop learning. Thanks for sharing.

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 11 років тому +2

    You are one clever dude, it puts a smile on my face watching these videos. Thank you!

    • @KeithFenner
      @KeithFenner  11 років тому +1

      Thanks for the comment! ;{)------

  • @literoadie3502
    @literoadie3502 4 роки тому

    Your press is the best I’ve seen! That table lift mechanism and the control valve are really great👍🏻👍🏻

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 8 років тому

    Thanks for the reminder Keith. I had seen these vids. before I'd just forgotten. Easy to do nowadays. Hell you were just a pup in those photos. You've come a long way. Really good to see the great progress. I've been following along for several years now and have certainly enjoyed the ride. Thanks again.

  • @nathane1011
    @nathane1011 10 років тому +1

    Love your videos, Keith. Thanks for sharing and educating. It's a nobble cause that many people appreciate.

  • @noe179
    @noe179 12 років тому

    Thanks for sharing! I really like your statement when you said to build any project little by little! I have been building a hyrdraulic dynamometer at home for the last three years with limited funds and very limited time. At least your statement will keep me going for a few more months (or even years!) Thanks again, Noel - Island of Malta

  • @DesN4IN
    @DesN4IN 12 років тому

    Keith incredible job with materials as they came along. You give us ideas and inspiration. Thanks man!

  • @billdlv
    @billdlv 12 років тому

    Great project and sound advice. I really got a sense how big the whole press is with you standing next to it full frame in the camera.

  • @joedell71
    @joedell71 12 років тому

    Another great video keith. Kudos. I have been wanting to build my own smaller press for a while now. I can source alot of the hydraulics, hoses and steel from the scrap bin at work. Thanks again for your informative videos

  • @junglejammer1
    @junglejammer1 11 років тому

    Very nice press, indeed. That was an ingenious sprocket arrangement you came up with for the table lift.

  • @danielkitson6878
    @danielkitson6878 7 років тому

    Hi kieth, I have watch a lot of your videos now and think they are great, the way you explain wot your doing help us all out here, thank again for taking the time to share with us all, Daniel

  • @paulduffey7975
    @paulduffey7975 8 років тому

    Again,"Jealousy is hard to live with." Beautiful machine. Thank you.

  • @62346
    @62346 11 років тому

    Amazing work Keith and your are certainly an amazing guy.....keeping me inspired!
    Thanks
    Dave

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  12 років тому

    Barrowing my ideas, workmanship exspectations or additude is a compliment! Thanks for the kudo's :)

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  12 років тому

    Thanks for the comment, when I built the press I was scraping the barrel for everthing to pull together enough to secure buying and moving the business to the money pit we bought, reference to the condition of the buildings and shape of the property! One month after we took ownership we made the last payment on the lathe, It proved that giving up a lot of extras, gets you what you really want! I drove the same truck for twenty years, things like that! ;{)---

  • @TheKelstr
    @TheKelstr 12 років тому

    I would see your press in the videos and I was really in love with it , that was a great video on how its put together and all your tooling you built for it.
    I have an old "Carolina" frame I built to do some of the goofy work I get into , but I sure could use a bigger framed one like yours, ....that press is a super man press !!

  • @1973mre
    @1973mre 8 років тому

    The hydraulic hose crimper is awesome. You're right the place I used to work at had a ridiculously expensive hose crimper. Of all the times I need custom hydraulic hoses made this is an awesome idea. I love to know more.

  • @briancarter1401
    @briancarter1401 11 років тому

    A great presentation, Keith. I always learn something new.

  • @MukhtharAhmed
    @MukhtharAhmed 11 років тому

    Hello Keith,
    I had made a coupling arrangement for the table and hydraulic ram to bring the table up or down. So no stress on the operator and is very safe. You can also increase the cylinder force by using intensifer that way it would be cheaper add on to the exisiting system

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    Yes, I made the crimping tool and just bought the rubber collets, the collet cub and push plate were 4140 and heat treated. ;{)---

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    The Cylinder is a self rebuild using a old cylinder off an excavator thumb attachment. I ordered the dies from one of my Hydraulic suppliers at the time of a lot of hydraulic works going on back in the late 1990's

  • @casperakoma7273
    @casperakoma7273 7 років тому

    I really smile at your work sir,i learnt a lot thanks.

  • @mattwilkins1597
    @mattwilkins1597 9 років тому

    Awesome press Kieth. I have been watching and meaning to ask about it. Glad that the videos for it finally showed up for me to watch. I deal in the valve that you used but have never seen that control. I will be looking for it Monday. I want to double check but I don't think that would handle 4000 PSI. We need to figure up a hydraulic motor to hook up to your crank system. You ain't getting any younger. :)

  • @RaptorMachineToolCo
    @RaptorMachineToolCo 6 років тому

    Keith, you are a smart man ! Just getting started with a cannibalized second hand press Awesome job

  • @FRUNTCASTER
    @FRUNTCASTER 12 років тому

    Guess I spoke too soon on part 1, nice bender! Also, that hose crimper is just too great! Beats having the local rigging shop press hoses for ya.

  • @S10Electric
    @S10Electric 11 років тому +1

    Keith You can lay the press on it's side for long parts like a horizontal press that would save some digging and give unlimited length. maybe a hinge bracket on the floor and a cylinder too raise and lower or just do it with the hoist.
    I enjoy your posts!

  • @GrandpaBill
    @GrandpaBill 12 років тому

    I worked for a fork truck mfg'er... there was a domed cover cap on the pump -- inside was either a screw head or allen cap head... turning that in or out would adjust the pressure output of the pump.
    Most of our smaller pumps were set at 1,500/1,800 psi, BUT could be cranked up to 3,500/3,800 psi.
    Another trick was to take out the screw and replace the detent spring. (not all pumps use that system)
    Grandpa Bill

  • @dougspair
    @dougspair 11 років тому

    Nice work on the rack-pinion...seems everywhere I've been they use a winch-cable/s and always annoying. And, where did you get the hose-crimping dies? Maybe I missed part of these 2 videos, but did you also make the pressing cylinder on top?

  • @bobbyabbott3035
    @bobbyabbott3035 11 років тому +2

    And I thought I was the only one that had to build my own tools?
    Great finished product. Funny a high paid engineer could have not done as good of a job!

    • @KeithFenner
      @KeithFenner  11 років тому

      Thanks for the comment Bobby! ;{)------

  • @Kalkaekie
    @Kalkaekie 12 років тому

    Really enjoy your videos ! Great job !

  • @RobB_VK6ES
    @RobB_VK6ES 11 років тому

    As the needle valve was closed proportionally more oil was diverted to the cylinder until, with the needle valve fiully closed all of the pump pressure and flow went to the cylinder.
    Keith's helical valve looks very good but I bet the needle valve is a lot cheaper even DIYable.
    This circuit give very good control and feedback and the oil does not get hot spilling over the relief. which reminds me. If you chose the conventional 3 position valve bee sure to get an "open center"

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    I have built similar presses requested to be built by owners in the past. Just turn doublers collars for the webs a weld then in place; they will help spread the load. ;{)---

  • @rarmitagebeef
    @rarmitagebeef 11 років тому

    Again, sweet workmanship!

  • @Alcigexed
    @Alcigexed 11 років тому

    I'm new to all this, and very glad I started here.

  • @DoktorHalloween
    @DoktorHalloween 5 років тому

    Hey Keith,
    In watching these videos on the press I'm following most of your build except for one part. The chain drive for the lift. Are the shafts on ball bearings? IF so, where are the bearings mounted? Are the shafts on a different kind of bearing? It seems so smooth. And, is the gearing I see on the outside of the lift the only gearing involved? What size are the gears, teeth, diameter etc?

  • @turftone
    @turftone 12 років тому

    hope you don't mind but i'm taking notes and am gonna use some of your ideas when i get room to build me a press that size, love the idlers on the chain drive for adjusting the table. definitely need a pressure gauge had too many bearing houseing explode and send shrapnel flying by students not listening to the press noises, so i'm a bit cautious about having a idiot dial obviously your very experienced and safety aware thanks for the killer videos!

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    Thanks for the comment and glad to hear about the press, good score! ;{)-----

  • @matter9
    @matter9 11 років тому

    Keith, you're an inspiration.

  • @mikekelley9137
    @mikekelley9137 11 років тому

    Hey Keith, Have been enjoying your videos for quite some time. thanks. maybe I missed it but what grade of steel are the components of the press? IE the uprights, the channel, parallels, etc. thanks for all the great info and the taking the time to share.
    Mike

  • @dougbourdo2589
    @dougbourdo2589 8 років тому +1

    That is about the finest press Ever done by an individual. Devil is in the details for sure.

  • @RobB_VK6ES
    @RobB_VK6ES 11 років тому

    The shop where I was apprenticed had a press a little larger than Keiths but it had one significant change. for the pressure control this press used a T connecting the pump to the cylinder. The third leg of the T had a needle valve which drained to tank. With the needle valve fully open the oil simply circulated at low pressure tank-pump-tank.
    continued....

  • @creativecustoms3778
    @creativecustoms3778 6 років тому

    I saw you made the actual holder but did you make those little jigs for compressing the actual hydraulic hose fittings? if so would you consider making another set for sale?

  • @damenstevens2453
    @damenstevens2453 10 років тому

    Great press Keith, I really appreciate the run down in such detail. Do you recall what grade material you made the table pins from? Thx!!

  • @ramseyst42
    @ramseyst42 12 років тому

    I sold lots of those T400 Weatherhead Hydrualic presses..good job.

  • @JimmysTractor
    @JimmysTractor 11 років тому

    Did you make the die for your "weatherhead"? It took me until you slide the tubes on to realize it was a hydraulic crimper. I just got an air over hydraulic 20 ton bottle jack for $56 20% off the $69.99 1/2 off sale price.

  • @ColtaineCrows
    @ColtaineCrows 5 років тому

    Since this video is so old I'm not expecting an answer, but I'm gonna ask anyway, how much flow does that pump give? The ram seems pretty snappy, so I'm guessing it's fairly decent.

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  12 років тому

    Thanks for the comment, cool stuff, welcome aboard

  • @practicalman45
    @practicalman45 8 років тому

    Hi Keith, I love your press. I'm no machinist, but I am a fabricator. I want to build a bigger press for myself. I have a harbor freight press and swapped in one of their air pumped 20 ton bottle jacks. Its done a lot for me with the small shop built brake for bending flat bars for parts I manufacture. Am wanting to make a large powered unit for myself and I have a lot of parts and pieces already.
    Trying to figure a design that can use these two 10' long 12" tall wide flange H beams (40lbs/ft) that I already have. I have a new 4"x24" welded log splitter type cylinder, a used Williams piston pump (it is inside of about a 5 gallon reservoir, the shaft has a 2 belt 10" sheave on it. It ran an industrial cardboard baler) I read those can make high pressure, like 4kpsi? Still need to get a valve, but have some hoses and a lot of fittings already. I hope to run it with a 3hp baldor enclosed motor, hi speed, it has a two groove 2" pulley and is face mount frame I'll make a mount for it. This will just be a crude monster that lives outdoors in front of the shop. I'm thinking the ram can just be fixed in the center of it. I want to make my own press brake, at least 4 foot wide. for 1/8" stock, and a short beefy brake for heavy flat bars. I would love to punch holes with it if I can figure out how to set that up and can find some punches and dies. Really just need 1/2 & 5/8 through 5/16" mild plate..
    So, what do you think about using the Wide Flange Beams? could they lay on their side, like an "H"?. They are about 10x12, 40 lbs per foot and I have (2) 10 footers also several other long 8" WF too.
    I want to do this inexpensively and am not very worried what it looks like. The steel is already living outside for years, leftover from bridges I built over 10 years ago. I'd probably just raise and lower the cross beam using the ram somehow. It is double acting and has 24" travel and will be permanently centered in the frame.

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  12 років тому

    @oneyaker The tag that I stapled to the wall was dated 08-98, LOL...:)

  • @1jtolvey
    @1jtolvey 7 років тому

    GREAT VIDEO & ADVICE !!!

  • @Bowtie41
    @Bowtie41 8 років тому

    Sweet! Do you have an idea where I might go or can you possibly pm me,dimensions for the hose crimper?I'm always needing to get hoses made up at a local shop for various repairs/projects,and it gets very expensive quick.Thanks!

  • @Panzax1
    @Panzax1 7 років тому

    What is the stroke of the cylinder ? I am planning to copy your design more or less :)

  • @EarthshipFreedom
    @EarthshipFreedom 12 років тому

    You are blowing my mind man. awesome

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne1 12 років тому

    I build and use DANLY/IEM post die sets / catalog die sets on mine. Not having a very good OBI press kinda limits me. I worked in a very large press room where they had just about every kind (and tonnage) of press imaginable.

  • @1995jug
    @1995jug 11 років тому

    Keith you are amazing the things you come up with, i ask you a while back what company built your press i might have know it was fenner company that is best press i ever saw harbor freight cant top that also i like the way you deal with your money buy as you get the money thats the way to go not like the clowns in washington.

  • @88trim
    @88trim 12 років тому

    man you are a smart guy. i wish i was smart enough to make things like that.

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    Those were for a tower and pulpit for tuna fishing. ;{)---

  • @joselolopez3635
    @joselolopez3635 6 років тому

    e visto muchas prensas de muchos fabricantes,y sin duda la suya es la mas eficiente!

  • @rborno
    @rborno 12 років тому

    Amazing solutions,are you really cheap or would it cost you your house and everything you belong to buy all the tools you made :D

  • @ChrisJB84
    @ChrisJB84 12 років тому

    Another awesome video thanks!!!

  • @keldsor
    @keldsor 11 років тому

    Hi Keith - I plan a press a little smaller than yours, but should I worry for the "cutting effect" on the pins holding the moving board when the the thickness of the material of the "towers" are only 5 mm ? (Translation in the middle below the menu line !)
    Take a look on my sketch here: kelds.weebly.com/hydraulisk-presse.html

  • @MMetalworks
    @MMetalworks 9 місяців тому

    Any details on that hose krimper?

  • @todlindley8101
    @todlindley8101 9 років тому

    Keith ! Cant you come over to the UK and set up local to me !! lol

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 10 років тому

    A really great press. And I thought mine was nice. Well my press is nice, just not as large or powerful.

  • @SteveRobReviews
    @SteveRobReviews 12 років тому

    Wow you impressed me all to hell. Wish I had one,sure would give my hammer a rest.

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  12 років тому

    Your welcome, have fun , be safe! ;{)---

  • @carslover3509
    @carslover3509 9 років тому

    where is mad that guy ?

  • @TheDivineImpulse
    @TheDivineImpulse 10 років тому

    i have some questions and i hope you find the time to answer them:
    1. does the distributor have a discharge line in order to let the fluid go back in the tank from the reverse side wen going down and when going up to let the fluid back in the tank from the "down side" of the cylinder ?
    2. how does the motor stop when you force the cylinder or pump? (i can hear the motor stopping when you over pressed down on the part and coming back on when you let go of the handle)
    3. no matter how i do the math i don't get the tons you are referring to (i don't understand the bible chart you are reading)
    i just started with mine and there are some things i need to figure out hope someone can help. Thanks!

    • @TheDivineImpulse
      @TheDivineImpulse 9 років тому

      actually bought a distributor witch has no one way valves it switches the path of the oil depending on the position of the handle, so i will only need one "over-pressure valve" that lets the oil back in the tank when the piston is at full capacity and when the handle of the distributor is in the middle :) will start building soon i guess :) steel need hose fittings, a pump, and that valve probably a pressure indicator...

    • @Spott07
      @Spott07 8 років тому

      +TheDivineImpulse The motor and pump never stop until you turn off the switch and walk away. Hydraulic systems don't work that way. When the valve is centered and the ram stops (or the ram is moving slowly, or other times) the fluid pressure opens a bypass valve (set at 3000psi in Keith's case) and the fluid returns to the tank. This keeps the system pressurized to 3000psi, regardless of how fast the ram is moving.
      For a good explanation and demonstration, go watch the "Hydraulic Systems" series by Abom79. (And then watch the rest of Abom's videos, he's a friend/associate of Keith's.)

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 9 років тому +2

    Here's something to ponder- which was invented *first*- a *tool* or a *machine*?
    Remember- one creates the other. Your mind can be considered to be a "tool" and your body a "machine". A rock held in your hand- can forge an arrow head.

    • @todlindley8101
      @todlindley8101 9 років тому +1

      HUBBABUBBA DOOPYDOOP HOW WAS THE FIRST PERFECT CIRCLE DRAWN/MADE ?????????

    • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
      @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 9 років тому +1

      Tod Lindley Ever see the drawing by Leonardo Da Vinci? Stand with legs spread, arms stretched out. A _nearly_ perfect circle can be drawn- by the outline traced, around, fingertip to foot to head (I think that's how it goes- but the Common Core indoctrinated robot plagairisers will probably correct me- out of spite, they always do- and it's getting boring) So- Tod Lindley- don't kill us with suspense- tell us all here on planet Earth- just who do you *_KNOW BY DIRECT WITTNESS THEREOF_* made or drew the "first perfect circle"? Hmm? Magellan with a compass? Kim Kardashian's dress maker? *WHO?*

    • @todlindley8101
      @todlindley8101 9 років тому +1

      HUBBABUBBA DOOPYDOOP Lol ! I asked you !, but to answer a question with another question is pretty smart !!

    • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
      @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 9 років тому +1

      Tod Lindley Not really. One usually answers a question with another question when:
      A) They _don't_ know the answer- and they're biding time to think up one- so they don't come across as a total dullard in front of (gulp) *billions* of people
      B) Being sarcastic
      C) A and B
      D) They're trying to make you think for yourself- in a world where when you ask about a perfect circle- a music group pops up
      E) None of the above
      F) All of the above

    • @Spott07
      @Spott07 8 років тому

      +Tod Lindley A perfect circle is easy, it doesn't require any precision equipment. All it needs is two points a fixed distance apart. A suitable mechanism for creating a perfect circle could be a ragged piece of irregularly shaped wood, with two holes pierced in it and a couple of pointed sticks forced tightly into those holes. Even a rock with a couple of points and a gap between them would work. It's so simple that it was certainly done before recorded history, and thus we will never know for certain, but we can easily guess how it may have happened.
      Much more challenging is a perfectly straight line. Such a line can be generated with a piece of string pulled tightly between two points, but how can you transfer that line to a mark or another workpiece, without distorting the string?
      For more exciting exploration of this topic, go read "How to draw a straight line" by Alfred Kempe, published in 1877.

  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner  11 років тому

    All material is A36 standard structural steel. ;{)-----

  • @tombellus8986
    @tombellus8986 8 років тому

    It's amazing how many things you can do with a press and you can do it all not that it surprises me thanks

  • @a-yates
    @a-yates 6 років тому

    I wish you wasn't 800 miles away from me I'd love to see your shop and watch you work @Keith Fenner

  • @keldsor
    @keldsor 11 років тому

    Thx a lot !

  • @ChristiansWorkshop
    @ChristiansWorkshop 10 років тому

    my neighbor has a bunch of steel i beam i could use instead of channel. i dont own a shop but i work in a machine shop

  • @wilddhc2
    @wilddhc2 11 років тому

    My press sets over the floor drain and adds four feet below grade

  • @erichope1103
    @erichope1103 10 років тому +2

    Im PRESS ive :)

  • @ahz123
    @ahz123 11 років тому

    lol Comshaw: To steal military equipment for unauthorized use on one's ship.

  • @myworkshop4youputta17
    @myworkshop4youputta17 7 років тому

    hay new warkoar give som iadia sar . india

  • @xvp40virus
    @xvp40virus 11 років тому

    you spent 10 mill on a press? lol