I Made A Panel Saw, But Does It Work?
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Big YES to the Damascus tenon saw build.
Should do it then gift it to his dad.
Me too
Also you should make a 2 man saw
I’d buy the hell out of that
I wonder how hard it would be to make it all bendy with all the carbon and whatnot.
'That is absolutely terrifying'.
Yes Alec. Yes it is.
Yes, yes, yes to the Damascus project!
To be fair, at first I thought he was about to mount the blade to the lathe and then something something something, so it's...better than that, at least?
It’s just a slitting saw though
It was terrifying to watch!!! "Is this the episode Alec loses a finger? Stay tuned to find out..."
" Absolutely terrefying... I LOVE IT! " hahaha. Put that on a tshirt 🤣
A Japanese style pull saw, in that amazing mosaic, would probably be a crown jewel of your wood working tools. It will also give you the ability to create a mirrored pattern that satisfyingly runs down the middle.
Second this!!! And think of the handle and the wrap pattern and the hardware that locks the blade in place.
Alec: using a router table as it's meant to be used - "this looks DANGEROUS"
Also Alec: uses both a circular saw blade in an end mill AND an upside down jigsaw like it's just another Tuesday.
"This is absolutely terrifying - I LOVE IT!" and "I should probably say 'don't do this at home'" (SO WHY ARE YOU DOING IT ALEC? WHY?)
edit: LOVE the damascus tenon saw build idea.
I have never seen Alec commit so many OSHA violations in 1 video 😂 amazing
He came to the US to hide from the HSE, then when the heat had died down he fled back to the UK to hide from OSHA. 😂
@@Merennulli Nah, in both cases they ignore his shop exists to save on the therapy bills of the inspectors they've sent. They find the poor bastards sitting in their trucks mumbling "And then he turned it on..." incoherently.
OSHA doesn't exist in the UK. We have different standards.
It's ok. OSHA doesn't exist in the US for self-employed workers.@@slithery9291
@@slithery9291aren't you exciting at parties.
The sight of that saw blade on the milling machine is one the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen 😮
Not as much as the rounding of the handle on the shaping machine 😱
A saw blade on a angle grinder is crazy terrifying
@@lomicwind yeah I hadn’t gotten to that part of the video when I wrote the comment. I had to look away when he did the center hold
i was afraid hes putting it on the lathe...
It's no different that using a slitting saw, just a tad bigger 😂
I’m a woodworker, I think of Paul sellers like a grandfather and it’s brilliant to see him mentioned in your videos, glad you could learn from him like myself.
I love how excited Alec gets when things go smoothly, like he expects it to be extremely difficult but is so relieved when it goes right the first time
I love the idea of a demascus saw. How about a 2 handle saw for trees?
Also I think you should give the saw to your wood worker friend. Keep on with the wonderful videos. All the way from the RSA
I came here to write this same comment.
+1 (Damn beaten by 2 other people 🤯) I would definitely vote for the 2 person, old school, crosscut saw. 😎
Alec working with the table router was anxiety inducing. lol I thought for sure he was going to lose a few fingers. lol It's so easy to launch a part and pull your hand into it at the same time. I'm surprised he was able to hold on to it when it did finally bite. I'm glad he a decided to do the finish work on the sander instead. The handle turned out looking great. What a cool project!
Yeah the router table was Will's power hammer drop levels of stress to watch. I looked away when he did a climb cut 🫣
I had a friend that was using a router and somehow feed his hand into the bit he didn't lose any fingers but it sure mad a mess of his hand and fingers surgery was able to put the puzzle back together
Yeah, table routers and people who don’t know what they are doing are a bad combo. I was thinking he had about a 50% chance of losing a finger.
@@mudimba weirdly the drill/saw scared me less than the router table 😂
@@ChapmanWWAs long as he made the saw screw in the right direction, I’d 100X rather be around it than do a climb cut with that bit and no pushblock. I say that as a woodworker who spends a lot of time at a router table (so I don’t have an irrational fear of them or anything).
That nervous laugh when putting the pencil against the saw blade made my day!
It's fascinating the difference that a shop's floor makes. Your neighbor's woodshop? Gives such an amazing sense of.. woodiness. Simply because of that oakey yellow glow. Your workshop, with it's grey floor and grey walls, gives off a very metall-ish feel. I don't know *why* I noticed this but it's genuinely interesting.
Yes Alec, please make a damascus saw. PLEASE.
And if you can do some fancy inlay in it, like the good old fancy swords!!!
The saw blade in the milling machine, your hands so close to the router bit and the upside down jig saw were all terrifying!!!!
The milling machine was the one that terrified me the most. When I was young, Dad bought a weed eater (I think Brits call it a "strimmer") that came with a swappable circular saw head for handling thicker brush. Dad put it on, started it up, and the bolt unscrewed itself. The bolt dropped down and the saw blade hovered out like a flying saucer, then dropped to the ground and ran around the yard like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Circular saws in that orientation are absolutely mortifying to me.
You’d have a heart attack in my workshop, I flush trim 10mm aluminium like he flush trimmed that handle.. still have all my fingers after 10 years
@@RobbieBeswick I think Gefionius was referring to the chamfer bit in the router table, not the flush trim bit in the hand router.
@@Merennulli correct!
Every part of making that handle was terrifying. Kids this is a great example of what not to do.
I thoroughly enjoyed this whole series, please do make a fancy back saw next!
For sharpening and setting, you probably should've done another quick round of filing after setting and then lightly stone the sides of the teeth to make the set even. It takes a few rounds of test cuts and fine tuning the teeth to make a saw properly sing. To be fair, you did pretty dang good for a first timer! Saw sharpening is hard.
Go for it!!! I miss a pure blacksmith content and lil bit bored of silly projects
If you're going to make a fancy saw like that, may I please request that you put a small gold inlay somewhere?
I second that. I really enjoy seeing him use those tools and doing that finer work.
As much as I'd like to see that, I'd also like the series to end before I do.
A very fine dovetail saw would look excellent with some Damascus and a little bit of gold wire laid into the handle... lol. $1200 saw incoming.
The Steele touchmark done as gold inlay would be twelve next levels of fancy
I am so happy that he still has all his fingers. Probably the scariest video yet.
As a long time, hand tool woodworker this series was a lot of fun (and a little horrifying) to watch! Great watching you learn all about handsaws and to find Paul Sellers as a resource. I'd love to see a luxury tenon saw build on the channel!
Duuuude, some of those work practices, shall we say, were bloody scary! My heart was in my mouth
Massive YES on the tenon saw! Setting the teeth is a really precise art. A pair of proper Setting pliers is what you need. It ensures that every tooth has exactly the same degree of set, which produces a much cleaner and quicker cut. Great vid!
A proper fancy saw and a new Alec in depth build series? Hell yeah!
As a wood guy, I'm glad there are metal guys. I'm a bit envious of the stuff you can do with metal, but wood is just so must easier to deal with. Anyway, nice wood work! You're a lucky guy to have access to so many shops.
Alec I love your videos. I am a small town blacksmith with no costumers. I don’t have much, just a little coal forge, an anvil and some raggedy tools that I made. But seeing your videos really inspired me, because I’ve watched your videos since the beginning. Thank you on behalf of all the small blacksmiths out there, and also for the ones that can’t afford your tools ahahah. Much thanks!!
Sincerely, Braxton Tessneer
Before you finished saying "mosaic damascus saw" I was saying "I want thayat." I think a full 24 to 32 part series on that kinda thing is what I and many others are here for, that and following your continued successes of course...
This is a beautiful crossover between my love for the things I don't understand (blacksmithing, fire) and the things I do (wood, hammers, saws).
build a complete set of woodworking tools, like handplane, spokeshave drawknife and then make a windsor chair with your father!
I'm a mechanic and engineer and have always worked with metal. Just recently got into wood through a project and got myself a router like that. I really think these woodworking tools are the most dangerous tools there are. Like they don't just hurt but change your life forever if you happen to run out of talent for a second. I'm glad you seem to feel the same.
Damascus saw build would be epic!
After that you should definitely make a Trident!
We used to run a saw blade on a mill like that, it was known as the "wheel of death" in the shop.
another YES for a damascus saw, i like the idea of either a japanese pull saw, a 2-man crosscut saw for felling trees or a fancy tenon saw with an ornate trigger-style handle
That circular saw rig was terrifying. Like deep in the gut terror. I haven't been that scared since Will was almost killed by the falling power hammer.
2:20 Alec: “I hope you can keep up, Jamie”
2:25 Revenge of the Jamie: Circus music
Circus music? Naw man your messed up for that... that's traditional Spanish dancing music.
I would love to see a project with an actual woodworker combining wood and metal, e.g. a table or cabinet
just a little heads up when using any sort of handheld router, at 7:20 you put the bit towards yourself and it looked kinda close to you/ your clothes, always good practice to have the bit go away from you whenever setting it down. i know it wasnt on anymore but the bits still spin for a little bit
It's really funny to me to see Alec doing basic woodworking things that I do every day and be surprised and scared by them, gold.
Use a saw setting tool ,,,Hand saws sometimes have a taper ground so the front ,(teeth side)is wider than the back
Very good! Old school 👍👍
Damascus Japanese saw next? You could do a fancy wooden handle that way as well and it's a much simpler shape blade
That circular saw/milling device was terrifying.
Yes!
Nice
Old fashioned saws rarely had anything but an angled part at the back, no step like you did. They would make the slot in the handle using the saw before setting it for the first time so it's a perfect thickness fit. Maybe do that for the tenon saw and see how it goes?
Damascus Saw Yessssss!!!! A matching pair of brass back tenon and gent saw. With a custom Alec Steel medallion set into a figured maple handle. Use Fiddes wax finish feels good not slippery with sweat and easily maintained.
No views gang
Hell yeah
That's this channel in a nutshell lol
9072 views gang💪
I think you've done very well by this saw build. Nice work! Also, you can sharpen the cheapo saws, but you need diamond tools. I've sharpened my Bahco since the mid 00's. Haven't gotten through to the non-hardened area yet, but it's close. I'll probably make a bunch of scrapers out of it. Can never have enough scrapers in the shop.
nothing would bring me greater joy than for you to go down a rabbet hole of besboke forged woodworking tools, please do the tenon saw. If you're up for a crazy challenge, maybe even a damascus hand plane. love the work!!
Amazing work Alec, thise panel saws are a beautiful part of joinery and big respect for making such a beauty. Lookong forward to the tenon saw build. Every household should own one of these saws, timeless 💪
as a woodworker whos is amazed watching Alec blacksmith, its interesting to see him amazed at woodworking tools and techniques.😄
8:09 that laugh made me bust out laughing... between the two laughing, my dog got up and left the room!🤣
I'm a bench joiner and we use the router with the guide wheel all the time for arch doors, windows, beads, and they do work a absolute treat, as long as your mdf template edges are spot on and have been sanded you get a clean edge
Huge yes on the fancy gentleman’s saw! You should do a colab with your woodworking buddy from this episode to build it!
It would not be a Alec Steele video if he did not rig up some deadly contraption to fix a problem that could be solved by hand tools, gawd i love this guy.. lol
You can try making a log cutting saw, one of those antique big two operators saw for felling trees
for a saw of that length I'd have said it would be better suited as a rip saw, and a big yes to the tenon saw idea!!!
The thought of Alec doing another blacksmithing excites me. Can't wait to see you wrestle with a chunk of bright orange metal again....
It's nice to see the application of your knowledge on the production of a common object. Function over form. Now...go forth and make it pretty!
Not only build the tenon saw. But you could also make one for your neighbor Matt for all his wonderful help!
Mosaic Damascus is always a yes, frankly it really is something of your specialty. Hell you could probably do well selling Damascus blanks.
A fancy tenon saw sounds great, but definitely get more adventurous with the handle too.
Hey, Alec. Did you manage to keep the angles between the blade and the handle? Usually you can lay quick 90s and 45s with the saw
Just get a pare of eclipse #77 setting pliers. They also have a magnified sight glass to make it easier to see what your doing.
We’re seeing some more woodworking and seeing Alec’s amazement at woodworking tools.
We’ve already seen Alec Steele, are we going to see an Alec Wood(e) show/episode?
1.) Alec rigged up a slitting saw.
2.) Alec’s Bridgeport mill would’ve been a better choice than a jigsaw.
3.) Alec never ceases to amaze me.
Im really liking Alec's new series, how its made (kind of). see and the little nuances of how different tools are constructed is quite interesting.
100% on the tenon saw! If you run into problems with making the tenon saw and don't end up with enough material you can also make a dovetail saw.
Yes on the saw! I've seen fancy versions of a lot of tools, but not a saw.
Well done my friend, but my dad had about 7 or 8 different types of saws from crosscut to ripping saws and they were all very old. I remember being able to take the end of the blade and bend it back into the handle and when you release it, it would come back as straight as an arrow. But as I said you built a great saw there.
It's sooo nice to have a carpenter as a friend. If i would have someone like it in my friends friends list i would make so many projects in wood...
I was curious a few years ago about making sheet steel thickness damascus, no thinner than say 14gauge and I was told it would be very hard to keep the metal together at that thickness. I would love to see a tenon saw made of damascus. Perhaps you can inform us all. I proffered that a motorcycle builder make his headlight buckets from the material.
I'd love to se a Damascus cross cut saw. Big two person one for you and Jamie to use!
Definitely interested in the damascus saw, also would be cool to see you make one of those long two person saws with handles on either end
I'd love to see you figure out a way to cut the teeth in using the mill. Tilted head and a stepped incremental feed to not only notch but bevel the teeth accurately.
On the router table, I suspect you were also using a bit that was too much material for one pass on oak. Start off with a smaller roundover and make a couple of passes with incrementally bigger bits. The grain direction makes a difference on the corners so you might have to feed into it in different directions to avoid tearing.
8:00 What hath Alec wrought...?
The way he giggles is the best part.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’d honestly watch a series of videos of this guy organizing his workshop
Alex I don't know if these tools are sill available. But in my grandfathers old tools there were a couple of saw setting pliers type tools. There are special tools made specially for this. if you do a search you will see many photos of the types there were.
I'd love to see you make more leatherworking tools! Edge bevelers or stitching forks, or something slightly more mechanical like a stitch groover, which has an adjustable arm with the blade on it to set different widths. Maybe a metal strap cutter, which would be overkill but very cool.
Yes to the even bigger damascus saw, but make it a two person cross cut logging saw! That would be insane.
watching alec use a mill as some sort of automated radial arm saw was amazing. pucker factor 1000.
the mosaic damascus projects were some of the coolest, yes to another one.
Could you make the damascus look like wood grain with knots and branches?
08:08 was so relatable to my school where we do the same thing
Just throw something in to table saw and laugh
There is a little loop of metal on old antique saw. I cant remember what it is called but it would be cool to have one on the next hand made saw.
Alec, I'd love to see you do a mosaic damascus saw, it'd be a joy watching you do it
your comment about the upside down jigsaw also should apply to mounting a circular saw blade to a milling machine/drill press.
3 things
slitting saw is what you made with the circular saw blade, and can be purchased
the router table has a cover to protect your fingies
typically when using a router or router table you move counter clockwise against the rotation of the bit to prevent tearout
10000000x Yes on the Damscus saw! Maybe ask mid-journey to make come up with incredible visual concept for inspiration!
You know Alec, the woodshop next door already has tools designed to spin a circular saw blade, and they even have guides and safety features built in.
The sanders being in a dedicated sanding room, and you wearing a jumpsuit with papr is why I chose metalworking over wood lol
How about one of the fancy two person saws with the handles at either end done in Damascus with some fancy wood for the handles
Alex, did you ever forged a dexel?
That tool would make a fine project.
Yes please to the tenon saw! PS - what you created was specifically a cross-cut saw. The chisel-style teeth would make it a rip-cut saw. Of interesting note, a rip-cut saw can easily cut both rip and cross grain cuts, but the same does not hold true for a cross-cut saw. :) (Yes, I've been following P. Sellers for a long time... LOL!)
amazing work as always Alec!! I think the next tool you should work on is making your own Fractal Vise. you always have some odd shaped item youre trying to hold down and that would seem like a "fun" challenge for you.
Yes on the Damascus saw!
BUT, make a dovetail saw and attempt to cut some dovetail with it!
That would be AWESOME!!!
when i saw you put that blade in the mill my first thought was "time to do some sketchy sh1t do da do da"
Seeing the wood working side of alec is always a decent surprise
Ive never been so on edge watching you make something. 😂 This has to be one of your scariest videos.
Woodworking with a milling machine brings back to mind your old T-shirt design: "It's not stupid if it works"
A nice bronze bar on the top of the tenon saw, with some Swiss set gemstones? 👍👍
I was thinking the whole time since part one, I would love to see a damascus saw, that would be really cool to see.
To put a saw blade on a milling machine is both one of the coolest and most terrifying things I have ever seen 😁