No idea how there's that weird clip at the start but oh well! Chapters: Intro 0:00 Pros and Cons 0:40 Unit Overviews 1:43 My Ideal Comp 14:28 Example Battle 14:54 Outro 23:34
I kind of thought it felt out of place, but then I thought it might be a joke. Like, 'Hey, here's the weakest unit, the-' and then you play a clip of a Minotaur. Which would have been funny.
One of the important things Beastmen units offer aside from their speed is that all units provide fear, making it so that most battles are won through morale routing instead of outright destroying them. It's why having ungors is actually valuable, because they tie down units really well and even if they don't have the stats to beat down standard Empire swords they can still force routs
They also usually have a higher charge bonus than their opponent. One of the keys to playing Beastmen well is getting your charge bonus to activate whilst preventing your opponent's charge bonus.
@@SGProductions87 This seems to go over a lot of peoples heads: they are an ambush faction. That means hit hard and fast before the enemy can fight back. I mean shoot, two of their stances are centered around ambushing, with a very high chance of doing so.
I've been playing beastmen since day 1. Been modding them ever since as well. The roster feels 250% better with these additions.. 1.) Preyton workshop mod (Beastmen now have a large center flying monster that is no push over) 2.) Ungors with poison and AP arrows (Beastmen now have more ranged options, wow) 3.) Bestigors that operate more like chosen (Personal favorite, 1300 gold, 40-42 MeleeAtt and MeleeDe, 74 Leadership. Makes them feel much more heavy metal and badass) 4.) Giving basic Beastmen Lord the highest Melee Defense of all Lord options (At the very least, the basic beastlord can save you gold AND has a good chance of surviving the longest in melee combat now. Its something, anything) Its nice just having options. Having room to tactically breath for crying out loud.
SEM are such a pain as beastmen. Just played a game where I swept over a Skaven player with a Centigor heavy build but Throt on a brood horror, a Hell Pit, and a plague caster on a bell were just too much. Managed to get the bell off the field and hurt the hell pit a lot but brood horrors are ridiculous.
@@ChaosLemonVIII Yeah. To top it off, it has a great profile for avoiding arrows, unlike something like a HPA. My ungor raiders hardly hurt him, but it is what it is I guess, tough matchup imo.
A few points I'd like to make on this one. 1) Gor herd - the non-shielded variant has _much_ better attack stats than the shielded version and make better high DPS flankers. 2) _Absolutely_ agree on Warhounds. Hands down the best at chasing off routed enemies, and oh so satisfying when the enemy army breaks. 3) Minotaur - as with Gor herd, the base unshielded variant absolutely _blends_ Small Unit size enemies with their +18 (!) bonus vs infantry. Putting that in perspective, regular Minos have a 55% hit chance vs Empire Swordsmen, compared to 37% for the shielded, and 128 weapon strength vs 110. If you want shock and awe, regulars are the way to go. 4) Giants. Ohhh, Giants, how we want to love thee. Beastmen actually have the best Giant, not because of any stat difference but because of _Mantle of Ghorok_ from the Wild spellbook. If you are able to protect and set your Giant on an enemy single entity, be it the enemy general, a dragon or indeed another Giant and drop _MoG_ on your Giant... it's absolutely disgusting. 105 attack with 900 weapon strength (with 675 of it as AP). For overkill you can add _Wyssan's Wildform_ from the Beasts spellbook and/or _Okkam's Mindrazor_ from the Shadow spellbook. Give it a try!
I played them recently, i must say that being the underdog of the evil factions was fun, but the problem was the Empire expanding at the same time as i razed their settlements, if Norsca could conquer in land settlements they would have died faster, Rakarth and Mannfred helped in the East and West, and the Dawi, those bastards conquerd half of the Empire while i destroyed the settlements, also they should copy paste the new waagh system, just select a settlement and you must destroy it in x turns, when you are done you must select another, if you fail you loose your beast waagh, easy
Centigors are pretty cool ! Very fast, armorpiercing Greatweapons and Misseles aaaand they have an ability, that gives them perfect vigor and a little melee Bonus as long as their leadership isn't wavering
The key to be strong in beastmen campaigns in my opinion is rely on those ungors all the time Yeah you will call me an idiot...How those goats can stand up against late game monsters or artillery or elite infantries or ... the answer is by using lots of in campaign buffs and their innate abilities like stalking Every army shaould have access to one gorebull at least and all of gorebulls get a lovely skill point for buffing the ungors and gors attack by hefty amount and it will stack also your lord skill points bugg them further more and your hord buildings do it even more and finally your technology push them even further and after all your simple half naked goats can have massive amount of attack value that can mack them more than capable of engaging any type of enemy on their own situations Do not forget that they stalking as well so you can choose where and when engage your enemy and where to hit them 4-5 full stacks of ungors plus 1 stack of elite minotaurs spam with 3-4 heroes all with unseated blood thirst will pretty much delete anything from your sight I tested the minotaurs doom stack with the lord and 4 heroes all with unseated blood thirst trait and i got a minotaur unit that can hit like a hero honestly 200+ weapon strength is not a joke and combined with 50+ charge bonus will shred everything to bits But i think beastmen regardless of their need for better roster are in dire need of some abilities like perfect vigor or something for their entire roster just like how centigors act now When you have a roster that relying heavily on lightning attacks then your faction abilities, lord traits, lord skills, technologies, ... should build around speed and durability and stamina You should always have access to things like perfect vigor just like brettonians have they are fighting more or less like brettonians after all
I think it would be cool if all the warhammer 2 unit mods came together to make one big games so you don't have to switch mods and you have a lot more variation of units and other fun tools to play with!!!! Don't you think that 2ould be cool
@@kapitan19969838 its a mod for warhammer, which basically redoes most of the factions, giving them more lore friendly technologies, abilities, and unit stats. though im not sure if it is obsolete now with the release of warhammer 3. though i have no doubt that there will be a version for 3 coming soon.
What I liked to do was bring two minotaurs with great axes and the Morrslieb Zygor. I pin one large entity down (most likely enemy lord) and charge my minotaurs in there
razorgor chariots are actually really good without micromanaging as well, & they work wonders vs greatswords. A real shame they didn't include the full warhammer roster though :/, it's not like it's that extensive in the first place.
If you use Centigors as brawler cavalry they will all die. They are very fast, have a decent charge bonus, and have woodsman and perfect vigor. Keep them moving and charging into vulnerable targets that don't have too much armor and they will rack up insane value especially late in the battle. If you leave them in prolonged combat they will die before mid-game.
Ca you do the hunter and the beast and the warden and the paunch dlcs added to the faction guides and can you redo the lizardmen because you frog some units like the dread saurian
Is the Beastmen the worst Faction in SFO too? Are the units there also so shitty? That would be a cool Addition to you Videos, if you add to the Factions Videos some SFO Stuff, or SFO Videos itself :)
No idea how there's that weird clip at the start but oh well!
Chapters:
Intro 0:00
Pros and Cons 0:40
Unit Overviews 1:43
My Ideal Comp 14:28
Example Battle 14:54
Outro 23:34
I kind of thought it felt out of place, but then I thought it might be a joke. Like, 'Hey, here's the weakest unit, the-' and then you play a clip of a Minotaur. Which would have been funny.
One of the important things Beastmen units offer aside from their speed is that all units provide fear, making it so that most battles are won through morale routing instead of outright destroying them. It's why having ungors is actually valuable, because they tie down units really well and even if they don't have the stats to beat down standard Empire swords they can still force routs
Ah yes. I knew this. I totally knew why I was winning battles.
They also usually have a higher charge bonus than their opponent. One of the keys to playing Beastmen well is getting your charge bonus to activate whilst preventing your opponent's charge bonus.
@@SGProductions87 This seems to go over a lot of peoples heads: they are an ambush faction. That means hit hard and fast before the enemy can fight back. I mean shoot, two of their stances are centered around ambushing, with a very high chance of doing so.
I love beastmen so much. They are like warriors of chaos, but more versatile.
I heard they’re full of Bull..
The Peenmen
And then a beastmen DLC is announced
Well _now_ it has
I've been playing beastmen since day 1. Been modding them ever since as well. The roster feels 250% better with these additions..
1.) Preyton workshop mod (Beastmen now have a large center flying monster that is no push over)
2.) Ungors with poison and AP arrows (Beastmen now have more ranged options, wow)
3.) Bestigors that operate more like chosen (Personal favorite, 1300 gold, 40-42 MeleeAtt and MeleeDe, 74 Leadership. Makes them feel much more heavy metal and badass)
4.) Giving basic Beastmen Lord the highest Melee Defense of all Lord options (At the very least, the basic beastlord can save you gold AND has a good chance of surviving the longest in melee combat now. Its something, anything)
Its nice just having options. Having room to tactically breath for crying out loud.
God a can’t wait for a new Beastmen dlc I’ve been waiting since they came out
now this guide is out it is guaranteed that the beastmen dlc/rework will come soon
SEM are such a pain as beastmen. Just played a game where I swept over a Skaven player with a Centigor heavy build but Throt on a brood horror, a Hell Pit, and a plague caster on a bell were just too much. Managed to get the bell off the field and hurt the hell pit a lot but brood horrors are ridiculous.
They're still ridiculous even after the nerf
@@ChaosLemonVIII Yeah. To top it off, it has a great profile for avoiding arrows, unlike something like a HPA. My ungor raiders hardly hurt him, but it is what it is I guess, tough matchup imo.
Been waiting on this with baited breath since the last Beastmen video.
How to play beast men 101:
Step 1: *cry*
When he said: "minotauers are just standing around becaus i am terrbible at micromanaging" i feelt that
-colonel finalyy a guide for them -i had to wait and skip ur vids forever to pay them attention -
A few points I'd like to make on this one.
1) Gor herd - the non-shielded variant has _much_ better attack stats than the shielded version and make better high DPS flankers.
2) _Absolutely_ agree on Warhounds. Hands down the best at chasing off routed enemies, and oh so satisfying when the enemy army breaks.
3) Minotaur - as with Gor herd, the base unshielded variant absolutely _blends_ Small Unit size enemies with their +18 (!) bonus vs infantry. Putting that in perspective, regular Minos have a 55% hit chance vs Empire Swordsmen, compared to 37% for the shielded, and 128 weapon strength vs 110. If you want shock and awe, regulars are the way to go.
4) Giants. Ohhh, Giants, how we want to love thee. Beastmen actually have the best Giant, not because of any stat difference but because of _Mantle of Ghorok_ from the Wild spellbook. If you are able to protect and set your Giant on an enemy single entity, be it the enemy general, a dragon or indeed another Giant and drop _MoG_ on your Giant... it's absolutely disgusting. 105 attack with 900 weapon strength (with 675 of it as AP). For overkill you can add _Wyssan's Wildform_ from the Beasts spellbook and/or _Okkam's Mindrazor_ from the Shadow spellbook. Give it a try!
The only winning move is not to play.
this
"What a strange game. It seems the only winning move is not to play. Would you like to play a game of tic-tac-toe, Mr. Khazrak?"
*laughs in silence and fury*
@@chaosrex1487 I understood that reference!
Colonel: Don't take Giants.
Me: tall man go flop haha
I played them recently, i must say that being the underdog of the evil factions was fun, but the problem was the Empire expanding at the same time as i razed their settlements, if Norsca could conquer in land settlements they would have died faster, Rakarth and Mannfred helped in the East and West, and the Dawi, those bastards conquerd half of the Empire while i destroyed the settlements, also they should copy paste the new waagh system, just select a settlement and you must destroy it in x turns, when you are done you must select another, if you fail you loose your beast waagh, easy
Love your vids man! Keep up the good work :)
I was shocked to learn the BM can't recruit Manticores.
Its a MANticore, not a BEASTicore
Centigors are pretty cool ! Very fast, armorpiercing Greatweapons and Misseles aaaand they have an ability, that gives them perfect vigor and a little melee Bonus as long as their leadership isn't wavering
At least Beastmen are pretty fun in battle, even if their roster is a little lacking.
The key to be strong in beastmen campaigns in my opinion is rely on those ungors all the time
Yeah you will call me an idiot...How those goats can stand up against late game monsters or artillery or elite infantries or ... the answer is by using lots of in campaign buffs and their innate abilities like stalking
Every army shaould have access to one gorebull at least and all of gorebulls get a lovely skill point for buffing the ungors and gors attack by hefty amount and it will stack also your lord skill points bugg them further more and your hord buildings do it even more and finally your technology push them even further and after all your simple half naked goats can have massive amount of attack value that can mack them more than capable of engaging any type of enemy on their own situations
Do not forget that they stalking as well so you can choose where and when engage your enemy and where to hit them
4-5 full stacks of ungors plus 1 stack of elite minotaurs spam with 3-4 heroes all with unseated blood thirst will pretty much delete anything from your sight
I tested the minotaurs doom stack with the lord and 4 heroes all with unseated blood thirst trait and i got a minotaur unit that can hit like a hero honestly 200+ weapon strength is not a joke and combined with 50+ charge bonus will shred everything to bits
But i think beastmen regardless of their need for better roster are in dire need of some abilities like perfect vigor or something for their entire roster just like how centigors act now
When you have a roster that relying heavily on lightning attacks then your faction abilities, lord traits, lord skills, technologies, ... should build around speed and durability and stamina
You should always have access to things like perfect vigor just like brettonians have they are fighting more or less like brettonians after all
The only thing separating Beastmen from being the Best men is the letter a.......
I think it would be cool if all the warhammer 2 unit mods came together to make one big games so you don't have to switch mods and you have a lot more variation of units and other fun tools to play with!!!! Don't you think that 2ould be cool
Oh boy. I hope you know about SFO
@@Yaldabaoth82 What is SFO?
@@kapitan19969838 its a mod for warhammer, which basically redoes most of the factions, giving them more lore friendly technologies, abilities, and unit stats. though im not sure if it is obsolete now with the release of warhammer 3. though i have no doubt that there will be a version for 3 coming soon.
What I liked to do was bring two minotaurs with great axes and the Morrslieb Zygor.
I pin one large entity down (most likely enemy lord) and charge my minotaurs in there
I thpught the first unit you were going to clip away and say something funny like "Not worth talking about". :P
Army composition:
6x bestigors
3x mino (gw)
3x mino (shields)
2x Cygor
4x Chaos spawn
Beastlord - Caster
razorgor chariots are actually really good without micromanaging as well, & they work wonders vs greatswords. A real shame they didn't include the full warhammer roster though :/, it's not like it's that extensive in the first place.
If you use Centigors as brawler cavalry they will all die.
They are very fast, have a decent charge bonus, and have woodsman and perfect vigor.
Keep them moving and charging into vulnerable targets that don't have too much armor and they will rack up insane value especially late in the battle.
If you leave them in prolonged combat they will die before mid-game.
Ca you do the hunter and the beast and the warden and the paunch dlcs added to the faction guides and can you redo the lizardmen because you frog some units like the dread saurian
1:43 my favourite part 😅
Cool as you
twist is ca is waiting for you to finish the videos to release the beastman rework
Summoning...
@@ColonelDamneders norsca vs beastmen is my prediction. so all dlc factions have 4 lords (except chaos)
The best way to win is by not fighting. For once the Jedi are smart
You have probably been asked this millions of times but will you ever use overhaul mods such as radious?
Not wait for new update?
For some people giant are bad but for me there good because I just hidden them and pop them like in ambush to get there archer and back lines
Toris Bodbringer? Love
Is the Beastmen the worst Faction in SFO too? Are the units there also so shitty? That would be a cool Addition to you Videos, if you add to the Factions Videos some SFO Stuff, or SFO Videos itself :)
*sad moo noises*
Sad moo noise indeed...
You forgot the Ghorgon
Dude. You don’t need to show us. Just say don’t play them. Better yet send CA a complaint asking for refund.
How to play Beastmen. Wait till July
How to play Beast men
Step 1 : Dont.
Best faction in game hooves down
step 1: download the sfo: Grimhammer 2 mod
Step 1: Don't
You don't
Video over.
Lol, you know a faction is bad if their elite melee can’t stand up to fucking greatswords
How to play the beastmen.
You don't.