Gibson vs Epiphone J-45
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2023
- A duel between two quality guitars, separated by $2,200.00 USD in price. The Gibson 1950's J-45 & and the Epiphone Inspired by Gibson J-45. Make no mistake folks, Epiphone is just not another pretty face these days. I'd like to thank a subscriber to the channel that suggested I do this, who calls their channel endoffate. It's primarily a metal channel. I'd say he's quite a musician. I'll drop a link to it below. They asked me if I'd also include the Epiphone IBG Hummingbird, but I thought it might go way too long, so what I'll do at some point is a video that features both the Gibson J-45 against the Epiphone IBG Hummingbird.
@endoffate5475
#gibsonj45 #epiphoneinspiredbygibsonj45 #gibson50’sj45
Let me know what you think.
Update: These IBGs, as of 2023, are now being manufactured in China. Buyer beware. My recommendation is to find a used one with the factory code 23, which is the old Samick factory in Indonesia.
Please feel free to reach out anytime:
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I bought an Epiphone J-45 recently and I love it. I was expecting to buy something more expensive but when I went into the acoustic guitar room at my local music shop that was the one that spoke to me the most. I'm glad I played them because it saved me a bunch of money! Thanks for all you do, Randy! I haven't taken the pick guard off yet but I did swap the bridge pins for bone the other day. Great guitar!
You are so very welcome, Cody. What a kind thing for you to say. Yes sir, when I first played the IBG 45, it screamed for me to take it home, brother man 👍🏻
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@hammerjunky If you’ll identify this link, I’ll leave it up.
@randysrhythm randy it's not mine ..it's 6 days old ..think it's s new product ...I'm not good at youtube ..I hope I didn't do something wrong ...I'm just curious if it would be as good as they claim...I thought I'd pick ur brain lol
No sir, you didn’t do anything wrong 😁. It’s just that sometimes I’ve had links dropped without explanation for them and it turned out to be problematic. The actual link. Thanks for the explanation and I’ll check it out, brother man 👍🏻
that piece you do with the capo is really great.
Windy and Warm!!
Appreciate that. It’s a piece Chet Atkins played, but I first heard it via Tommy Emmanuel, called Windy & Warm 👍🏻
Well done sir! Great comparison, just what I wanted to see! Thank you
Thanks, brother man! I’m loving that profile pic 😁. Glad the video helped and hope to hear more from you on the channel 👍🏻
Very well done and informative! Thank you sir. I've had my "Inspired By..." Hummingbird for about a week now after Morrison completed their setup with Martin Retro 12s and I can't seem to put it down. It is a fabulous instrument!
Yes sir, that Hummingbird is beyond amazing, right? I’m really pleased you feel the same about it. I plan to put this Gibson 50’s J-45 up against that Hummingbird in the next few weeks. Great to hear from you, brother man 👍🏻
By the way, Mason, I hope the folks at Morrison are doing well.
Hi Randy,
I’ve enjoy listening to you play and review the different makes of guitars and giving your honest opinion on them. I especially enjoyed this review because I bought a used IBG Epiphone J45 just yesterday. The original owner also had the pick guard removed and it sounds so good to my ears.
On this I review I honestly could not tell much of a difference between the Gibson and the Epiphone. . Makes me feel pretty good about my purchase!
Yes sir, I understand. They are both great guitars. Always appreciate hearing from you, brother man 👍🏻
Awesome sharing of this great review my dear friend Randy!!
Love and respect Kyle!! 😊🥁🇵🇭
Thank you, my wee brother man Kyle 👍🏻
Wonderful Randy !!!!!!!! Big like my friend and all the best wishes, Karen :-)) 🙋♀🥰🎶🎶
Thank you, Ms Karen 👍🏻
Great demo. I have the IBG J-45 and I’m amazed how much more articulate the Epi sounds. BTW - I used to own a Mossman Winter Wheat 6 and 12, but the necks warped after sitting in Baldwin’s warehouse without humidity and temperature controls. I should’ve kept them and has the necks reset. Wonderful sounding and beautifully-made guitars. Can’t wait to see what the next chapter holds.
Hey brother man, glad to hear from a former Mossman owner! Yes sir, that humidity, or lack of, can really cause a Monday to be all it can be. Glad to hear you share a similar view of this 45. It’s a cannon a way underrated by the mainstream. Gibson made a great move with these Inspired by’s, for sure. Epiphone are doing some great things these days. Appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
Randy, I love your guitar review videos. Incidentally, I appreciate those good ol’ southern ways about you, I’m a Virginia boy myself. For my dollar, the Gibson is in a different league, but that Epiphone is tremendous in its own way. Thanks again.
Hi James, Virginia is absolutely beautiful. Always appreciate someone that appreciates southern hospitality! Glad to have you on the channel and really appreciate your thoughts as well. Looking forward to getting to know you, brother man 👍🏻
Wonderful playing Sir. I stole a few of your tricks for myself - God bless you. 👍
Thank you, sir. You are more than welcome to steal anything, if it helps you out, brother man 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing this, Randy. The way you play these boxes, I prefer the Epiphone. My IBG J-45 arrived today and I could not be more satisfied with it, and that's straight out of the box. Going to warm it up now for next week's open session.
Hi Mark, I think you made a great choice. This little beast has restored a little faith in Gibson’s future for Epiphone, in my opinion. It has so many things going for it, not the least of which is the attention to detail coming out of the their Masterbilt shop. The IBG lineup on the acoustic side is impressive. Glad you made the plunge, brother man and welcome to the channel. It means a lot to hear from you 👍🏻
Thankyou Randy for these videos. I bought a new ibg slash at a great price. November burst. Mostly though, because it has a hard case included too. Took your advice on that one!
I could not be happier with it.
Hi Simoto, you are most welcome. I’ve played the Slash version and it’s great. Glad you found one. The major difference is the Slash version has a 16” radius fretboard. I own a few with that same design and I find the flatter fretboard is super friendly to fingerstyle. Always appreciate such kind comments and feedback. Merry Christmas, brother man 👍🏻
Thanks for replying Randy. The very best to you and your family for Christmas and the year to come. I dare not start praising the guitar because my enthusiasm for it is at a fever pitch right now. Lovely to play and hear. I’m subscribed and live in hope for a tutorial on the piece you play at 16.00 ish.
Thanks again
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@@simoto9009 I’ll check that tune and oblige 👍🏻
Thanks so much I will learn it. It’s a great piece. Very kind of you to take time❤
@@simoto9009 Hi Simoto, I looked at it and I have done a series on this already. If you start with this link, you'll find that I did around 7 videos, in sequence, for the first 2 parts of Windy & Warm, which is the tune you are referring to. Happy picking, brother man:
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Awesome! Wow, this was a surprising contest... as I feel myself leaning towards the Epi?! Didn't expect that, maybe I was a little more impressed with it's brighter tone. A lot warmer and fuller from the Gibson. If I was playing I think I would feel that resonance a little more with the Gibson. Just had a pause and re-listen... The more I listen through I might now lean more towards the Gibson (around 16mins in now). Conclusion - both are awesome!:)
Hi Choey, yes sir, it’s a bit crazy to me. They are each in their own space, which makes this a bit difficult. If they were worthy competitors to each other, it would mean that the Epi would be closer in tone to the Gibson, at which point everyone could make an easier decision. However, they don’t even remotely sound alike (to me) and that means they bring something different to the table. I can tell you that I am beyond pleased that I have both of them. Thanks for the kind words and the analysis, brother man 👍🏻
This is a super well put together video Randy , theres no doubt unless your deff that the epiphone IBG j45 is an absolute fantastic guitar for the money! I have the j45 IBG and the hummingbird IBG (Indonesian models) and love them , however i find myself sitting here listening to this and for me the Gibson is fuller , one thing for sure is i will not part with my epiphone i paid €720 (bran new) for it here in Ireland and i love it ! Really enjoyed this video looking forward to many more brother 💪🤘🍺
PS your awesome 😎
Hi Gavin, I completely agree on all fronts. The Gibson is fuller, but the Epiphone is a dadgum cannon. I don’t think anyone could talk me into selling my IBGs, or my Excellente. These guitars are game changers, in my opinion. The Hummingbird is sweeter and has more balance than the 45 Epi, but both are just killer guitars for the money. I’ve got a lot of close friends in Ireland, so it’s always great to hear from folks over there, including your good self, my friend. I really appreciate the kind words and I’m sure we’ll stay in touch.
On another note, I subscribed to your channel some time back. I did notice that you recently uploaded a guitar comparison recently and I’ll be over to check it out soon. I’m a bit behind at the moment, but hopefully I’ll get caught up this week. Again, great to have you on the channel and looking forward to hearing more from you, brother man 👍🏻
You do a lot of research , very interesting Randy 🎸🎸, nice video 😁👍
Thank you, Steve! Researching these build points aren’t easy, particularly if you’re looking for accurate information, so thanks for saying that, brother man 👍🏻
Nice comparison! I love your channel by the way I’ve been watching you for a while.
My first “good” acoustic guitar, was the Epiphone inspired by Gibson hummingbird, and that thing was really good for the price point.
genuinely was a really good acoustic guitar. I got rid of it and bought a Martin D-16, sold it because I didn’t like the Rosewood sound as much and then bought my dream guitar, A Martin D-18! The Marin is in a different league, but it should be obviously because of the price point, and I think that Epiphone really killed it with their inspired by Gibson line.
Can’t go wrong with one of them! Fantastic guitars.
Hi Anthony, thank you very much for all of the kind words and very glad and honored to have you on the channel. Yes sir, they are great guitars, brother man 👍🏻
Great vid Randy. Nice to see a comparison between these two. I hear what you mean about the Epiphone's mid range and how that compliments fingerstyle playing a little more than the Gibson. Both are fine instruments though!
Hi Steve, thank you so much for the kind words. They really are different classes of guitars. I think the Epiphone is louder too. Great to hear from you, brother man 👍🏻
Very good video my friend. And I am so glad you decided to hang on to that Gibson. I loved it in the review video.
It would be a hard choice for me. Either guitar would make me happy. Take care and great video. Oh, and Cathy liked the Epiphone over the Gibson. Just had to tell you that.
If Cathy liked the IBG, then that’s good enough for me! Yes sir, I’m glad you talked me out of selling the Gibson. A little patience seems to be paying off. Always appreciate you and your input, brother man 👍🏻
Makes me smile to know Cathy watched it 😁
@@randysrhythm
Cathy watches all your videos, right along side me when I watch them. Take care my friend.
wonderful work as always! beautiful sound both guitar! Gibson is too expensive for me to buy lol
thanks for great sharing!
Hi Tak, they are pricey, eh? I sure would not have bought it if it weren’t for such an amazing price. Appreciate the kind words, brother man 👍🏻
My son has the J-45 Randy and he loves it. I've played it a few times and can't disagree with him. I'm not sure I could bring myself to pay the extra money for the Gibson, although I'm sure it's a nice guitar. Thanks for the review / comparison, and also for the fancy picking - it was a joy to watch you play. Regards, Dave
Hi Dave, you are way too kind to me. Coming from someone with your skills, that means a great deal to me, so thank you. Yes sir, that IBG 45 is a great guitar and he’s lucky to have it. I think he’s also lucky to have such a great dad, brother man 👍🏻
Another great video, Brother Randy. I like them both, but I give the nod to the Epi. The value of that guitar is extraordinary, and I can’t stop playing mine.
I knew brother Paul would give some insight into that new Epiphone! Yes sir, it’s quite a guitar, brother man 👍🏻
Hard to believe! That Epiphone is right there with the Gibson on the recording! That Epiphone is an "A NUMBER 1, FIRST CLASS INSTRUMENT!" It's
hard to believe a guitar that great for that price! You know I got an IBG Hummingbird a while back and I like it more every day. It sure puts a smile on my face
just to strum a chord on it and listen!
Thanks for the video! I was anxious to hear this one.
Hi Tom, you are most welcome, my friend. If the Epiphone 45 had been built with the same dimensional body depth as the Gibson, they’d likely be even closer in sound. The body is built more along the design of a 45 Studio model. Regardless, it is a little cannon! Yes sir, I would put my IBG Hummingbird up against anything. Always appreciate your input, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm I love the sunburst on both of those guitars.....beautiful!
Great share my friend.. Nice comparison! 🌹🌹🌹
Thank you, ma’am 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm My pleasure my darling! 🌹🌹🌹
Interesting video! 🎶
Many thanks!
Well done sir. The Epi's are certainly gaining some ground. A friend just bought an IBG Epi J-200 and I was shocked at how good it sounds. It is an amazing guitar. I played the same model recently in the store and it wasn't nearly as good though. I ended up coming home that day with a new Gibson j-45 that is quickly becoming my new favorite. I've probably played half a dozen or so new j-45's over the last couple months and although most were good, none could compare to the one I bought. At least not to my ears.
Thank you, Brian. Yes sir, I believe we share the same opinion here. These IBGs have surprised both of us, apparently. I’m not sure I’ll find another Gibson 45 that sounds as good as my original one, but that just means I’ll have to keep looking, right? This Gibson is beginning to open up and sound pretty good. The IBG 45 is just a killer little guitar. It is not as deep, from a measurement standpoint, as the Gibson, perhaps by a half inch or so, but it is nonetheless powerful. Appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
You are quite a talented guy. I will be checking more of your channel out. I hope you are a UA-camr that responds to comments 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm yes sir and thank you! Subscribed and looking forward to hearing more from your channel.
Great video Randy!!! You Know how much I Love the Epiphone J45! In my opinion there is No Where Near a $2000 difference!! The Gibson J45 was always a dream of mine, but when I played the Epiphone I fell in Love and there was really no decision to be made. Those mids are just beautiful!!!!
Hi Ms J-Lyn, I do know how much you love that IBG! There you go folks, coming from someone that owns and plays the Epiphone IBG J-45!
Thanks, ma’am 👍🏻
Hi Randy,Don here from Hamilton NZ on my Wife's tablet-SUSAN, what an interesting video, may I share my experiences with acoustic guitar's Iv'e owned, in my time I owned a Gibson Hummingbird & another Gibson cutaway which we're great UNTILL my Son played his new acoustic He'd just brought from aliexpress ( Chinese built) WoW his guitar just Blew me away, twice the volume of the Gibson's & sounded Quality, no question, so when I took the strings of ALL of them I found the answer, the bracings of the Gibson's simply were Over built- which absorb's the volume rather than helps release volume, that's only reason I concluded- the Chinese Acoustic's were awesome, so I sold my Gibson's an put the money in the Bank 😂
Hi Don, great story. It’s interesting that you mentioned the overbracing, because this very thing was related to me recently about a factory in Canada that built Gibsons for the Canadian market for a while. A gentleman on the channel told me that he opened his 70’s Hummingbird up and took out several of the braces and now he loves that guitar. I have a 000-318 Recording King that is made in China and it’s a powerhouse. I think you are on to something. Much appreciate the insights and feedback, brother man 👍🏻
Both sound great would take the one that fit my hands best. Thanks for good video.
You are most welcome, brother man. I certainly can’t argue with your logic. Much appreciate the view and the feedback 👍🏻
Totally digging the GNR and Zeppelin. Awesome.
Much appreciated, BR. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts, brother man 👍🏻
Nice, friendly presentation! James Deagle
Thank you, James 👍🏻
Great review as always Randy. When I bought my IBG J45, I had a chance to play both side by side. (And there's quite the story behind that). To me, the Gibson edged the Epiphone by a hair, as I think it did in this video, but no where near the $3k difference. (Canadian dollars). You made a great point saying these are really two different guitars, both having merits of their own. My Epiphone J-45 is the Slash model, and although most of the differences are cosmetic, there are some that are build. Like a more rounded C shape neck, Grover tuners, Baggs system, and a Tusq nut, saddle, and Pins. There is about $350 CAD difference for the Slash model, but it comes with an Epiphone hard shell case, so well worth it. Right now, my IBG J45 is played just as much as my 47-year-old Gibson Hummingbird, and my 25 year old Gibson SJ-200. Keep up the reviews. P.S. I did a UA-cam video with my Excellente a few weeks back. It's my other Epiphone "I still can't believe what there doing." Guitar.
Hi Terry, all great points. The Slash has a 16” radius fretboard, so there’s some difference there, as you surely know. I’ve got 3 guitars with a 16” radius and they really presented me with some challenges at first. It took a few weeks for me to understand and appreciate that design. That said, they are killer fingerstyle guitars. Based on what you have told me here, I may pick that one up. I really appreciate you taking the time to lay your thoughts out. I know others will appreciate it as well. By the way, I love a good story, should you decide to share it, brother man 👍🏻
Thanks for the kind words. I’ll check out the Excellente video you posted.
Fantastic comparison between the Gibson and Epiphone, I really don't hear a 2 grand difference between them they both have wonderful qualities, I think very much depending on what style you are playing either guitar has its own merits, for instance when you played windy and warm I thought the Gibson came out tops but the Epi was better for the Zeppelin, Slash strumming parts, anyway very well done Randy 🎸🎸👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Trevor, it’s interesting that you said that about the Zeppelin song. I thought the very same thing. Yes sir, both have their own qualities. Thank you for taking time out to listen and comment, Trevor. I know how busy you’ve been lately and it means a great deal to me, brother man 👍🏻. Thanks again and be safe, my friend.
Great video. That Epiphone is one special guitar !! I like the sound of the epi better. It's got boom
Hi Ms Erin, boom really does describe that Epiphone. That beast is loud. Always appreciate hearing from you and hope you and your family are well, ma’am 👍🏻
Great comparison Randy! I like them both. I believe the Gibson is a little fuller sounding, like it has more body. If you mentioned it, I missed it. Do both guitars have the same brand and gauge strings? I have an Epiphone AJ45 that I purchased in 2017. It is not an IBG, but a Masterbuilt series guitar, and I really like it.
Hi Ed, the AJ seems to be loved by many. I’ve never played one, but I’ve only heard good things about it. I use Martin Retro 12’s on all of my acoustics and that’s what I used on these guitars for the video. I agree about the Gibson. I love both of them too. Thanks so much for watching and the great comment and question. Hope to hear more from you, brother man 👍🏻
Oh, It's so nice video. Original one vs Inspired by original.
My opinion, similar but truly different. This is an unavoidable difference. But Epiphone is good enough! I like this video!
Thank you for the kind words 👍🏻
I have the Epiphone, drove from ky to Chicago to get it, I love it,, had it probably 20 years now and still looks and plays like new, but i Did get a case.
Hi Michael, these Inspired by Gibson 45’s are amazing. Glad to hear you got a case for it, brother man 👍🏻
Huh? How could you have it 20 years? These just came out.
I think he meant 2 years
@@randysrhythm Oh! Okay. Lol.
Your Guitar playing sounds really good- got to go to work
Thank you, Thomas 👍🏻
11:03 12:17 Epiphone's not bad just differente.. J45 is still my dream guitar.
Great video as always, thanks Randy!
Hey brother man, hopefully you saw the description. I explained there why I didn’t include the Hummingbird in this one. I will do another video and put the Gibson J-45 against the IBG Hummingbird. I think comparing those two is closer. I suspect that almost everyone will feel the same way. I’ll try to get that one done in the next few weeks. Glad you enjoyed this one 👍🏻
Where are the Epiphones made? I have a beautiful Martin D35. I am considering selling it and buying a less costly guitar of some kind. Thank you for sharing your videos. Thumbs up.
Hi Tommy, the ones I own are made in the old Samick factory in Indonesia. They have recently moved these IBGs to China, which based off of the information I have received from others, you probably don’t want to buy. However, I still see quite a few of the Indonesian ones on Reverb. The way you can know for sure is to check the serial number before you buy. The 5th & 6th numbers should be 23, which is the factory code for Indonesia. I hope this helps you out, brother man 👍🏻
Thank you so much for responding to my post. I will look forward to your new videos. God bless you.@@randysrhythm
Ah, you did pretty good on the Zeppelin cover. Your definitely making those guitars sing! Good deal Randy!
I was trying, James 😂. Always appreciate your kind words, brother man 👍🏻
Great video. Thank. Both are cool guitars. But I like the sound of the gibson more
Hi Edgar, thank you for the kind words. The Gibson seems more mellow and balanced to my ear. I’m just glad I have both of them now! Thanks again, brother man 👍🏻
Absolutele gorgeous playing! My opinion between these two guitars: The Gibson is the better instrument for sure: The Epi lacks lower and middle frequencies wich is why it seems to bee brighter. It is even quite harsh. The Gibson is fuller and works also better in full Band mix.
Hi Jan, very much appreciate the honest feedback, brother man 👍🏻
Hey Randy, love your channel! Which one is the louder of the two?
Hey brother man, it is undoubtedly the IBG Epiphone 45. Now, before you pull the trigger, please go watch my latest upload before you attempt buying one. There’s been a factory change and I fully explain how to find one that’s made at the Samick factory.
By the way, thanks for the kind words 👍🏻
Where's the upload please?
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Great review, thank you!! I found the Epiphone better. Much fuller sound. Few weeks ago i bought a masterbilt excellente, which i love!. Which one do you prefer more? The Epi J45 or the Epi Excellente?
Cheers from Berlin
Hi Kosta, I have a good friend in Berlin, so welcome to the channel. If someone twisted my arm 😁, I’d pick the Excellente. The 45 is really great, but the Excellente is even greater. Thanks for the kind words and hope to hear more from you, brother man 👍🏻
Yes I think there’s a big difference between the two because of the overtones I hear in between the two guitars Kyle. The Gibson J-45 is strong and sure footed with big solid no-waving tone! Simply flawless in my opinion. Where the Epi is lacking in overall depth and especially clarity. Just my opinion my brother. Great comparison! You do excellent work. PeAce Dana E💫🫵🏻U ROCK MATE!
Hi Dana, appreciate you sharing, brother man. I’m hoping you found the comparison interesting. Hope you and Ms Dana are doing well, my friend 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm yes Kyle the Gibson has great-BIG SONGS! Not knocking the Epi though for the money 💰. Good instruments are x-Pensive Great instruments are more. PeAce ✌🏻 my brother, Dana
⚓️ Thanks Randy 🌈 great playing 🇺🇸 fun channel 😎 know anything about the Epiphone 1963 EJ-45/VS? Thanks
I see you are familiar with Genesis 9:13! I am not familiar with the EJ, but I would guess that it doesn’t have solid back and sides. Thanks for the kind words and you are welcome 👍🏻
Greetings from a new subscriber. I really enjoyed your video. I own a 1974 Gibson J-50 that I bought used from my grandfather in 1980. My family was in the music business in Charlotte, NC. Perhaps you have heard of Reliable Music.
Hi Larry and thanks for the sub. I haven’t heard of Reliable before, but did a quick search of the business. There’s something to be proud of, brother man! Looks like a well established business with a ton of committed customers, which is a testimony in and of itself. I’m really glad you are finding some value in the videos. Looking forward to seeing more of you on the channel 👍🏻
Is that a Doc Watson song you're playing around the 17 minute mark? That riff sounds familiar but I can't recall where it came from. Sort of sounds like "If it hadn't been for love" by the steeldrivers. Great comparison by the way. I've been comparing them recently and I think I'd take the Epiphone. Although I think I prefer my D28 over anything.
First, thanks for the kind words and the input. Now on to your question, that is Windy & Warm by Chet Atkins. The first time I heard it, Tommy Emmanuel was playing it and I just had to try and learn it! Appreciate the view, comment and question. Hope to see more of you on the channel 👍🏻
IF BOTH NECKS FEEL EQUALLY AS GOOD. I think I'd prefer the Epiphone to play LIVE , mid forward sound would cut through the mix of the band. Studio I may like the Gibson for sure on acoustic tracks that are not full production. Full production studio that Eppy might shine. Both sound great. I think when buying the Gibson your paying for that headstock sticker somewhat. Volume is louder on the Eppy. In my opinion of course, I don't own either, Just going by what I hear here. Thanks for posting this,very nice.
Hi Brad, I appreciate the detailed feedback. Great observations, brother man 👍🏻
Wanted to mention that my Epiphone Slash J-45 arrived a couple of days ago. (Still, as of 1/5/2024, on sale on the Epiphone website. And, no, I'm not affiliated with Epiphone in any way.) And I am really loving it. The action is spot on. It's beautiful with the Vermilion burst. And as for any concerns I had with the fatter Slash neck and larger fret radius than the standard J-45, those concerns are gone. My hand is quite large enough for it and I'm not experiencing any discomfort in playing. It really feels good. I'm glad I took the dive. It would have certainly been nice to have played it at a store prior to purchase, but that was never going to happen, unfortunately. It's a fine and well made piece. Opinions will vary of course. I really wanted an Epi EJ-160 (Lennon version) but they appear to be more hit and miss. I'm not even a huge Slash fan, but this Epi Slash J-45 is totally cool.
Hi BR, I’ve played the Slash Epi 45 and I certainly think you made the right choice. That guitar is a work of art and plays like a dream, brother man 👍🏻. Appreciate the insight!
I finally found a John Lennon e-J-160 and like it / they seem to be hard to find
@thomasmorris2245 I’ve heard good things about that guitar. Appreciate you sharing that, brother man 👍🏻
You got the mojo in those hands
Hi Jared, after putting guitars away for 20 years, that’s a compliment. Thank you, brother man 👍🏻
I’ve got the epiphone slash j45, I took the pick guard off and replaced the plastic bridge pins with actual ebony pins. The sound quality is amazing. To the point that if I never own a Gibson, I’ll be fine. Very impressed with Epiphone’s quality as of late.
I couldn’t agree more, Wade. Epiphone has really impressed the heck out of me with the IBG’s, the Slash 45 and the Excellent. You nailed it, brother man 👍🏻
Good job...😊
Thanks, Stephen! Always appreciate your insights, brother man 👍🏻
Hello Randy thanks for the guitar show.
I got a Gibson J45 rosewood burst 2022 recently-my first ever Gibson acoustic-its also slimmer in width, and it has a flatter fret board for modern player bending. The sound and everything about it is an absolute treasure. I love saying im a Gibson man, but also an Epiphone and Guild man.
And I also have an Epiphone IBG J45 Slash Vermillion. It has a chunky neck and flatter fretboard for lots of modern style bending. Slash also wanted lr baggs, larger Grover tuners and an absolutely beautiful red plush interior case.
And it sounds super Gibsonesque in its own meritorious way. I basically have all the new Epiphone Masterbilts, and all the IBG Epiphones except for the Hummingbird. I also belive my Epiphones are some of the best guitars in the world. I love every single one of them.
However my Gibson is the Godfather of all the aforementioned guitars.
Randy I would say youre a Gibson man. But you need both the Epiphone and the Gibson J45.
Remember all Gibson USA made guitars are hand made thus they all vary in sound ever so slightly.
If you don't like any particular gibson, then trade it for another one...
You are correct, I’ve always loved the sound of the Gibsons. The IBG Hummingbird, to my ear, is the cream of the Epiphone crop. I’m actually planning to put this Gibson up against that guitar in an upcoming video. The Slash version of the 45 from Epiphone gets nothing but great reviews, and with a 16” fretboard radius. That’s pretty flat. I own 2 guitars with a 16” radius fretboard and have grown fond of both of them. At some point, I’ll pick up the Epiphone Slash 45. Thanks for sharing your experience with it. By the way, I do plan to keep both of these guitars. Always appreciate getting your insights, brother man 👍🏻
Epiphone to me seems to have a much more “even” sound for recording music. Great video and stories. Thank you
Much appreciate the input, Jack. Hope to see more of you on the channel, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm do you think the Gibson is worth it for the extra money?
@@jackthefall6160 Hi Jack, I do, depending on what you plan to use it for. The Epiphone, while inspired by Gibson, has a completely different sound. Therefore, it becomes a question of the application and sound preference. The depth of the Gibson is attractive, but so is the balanced sustain of the Epiphone. They are both tremendous guitars, to my ear. Great question, brother man 👍🏻
I’m still wanting either a J-45 or a Martin D class 45 but I’m having trouble parting with $5000.00 plus lol
Yes sir, they seem to be proud of them. At some point I’ll pick up a HD-28. It may be a day or two, but that’s the plan. Always great to see you and get your input, my good friend 👍🏻
The Epiphone definitely nice, the Gibson sorry ( to my ears) couldn't match the quality sound coming from your Epiphone. Just a note Randy ( Great playing by the way) I ALWAYS put Bone nut and saddĺe on All my Acoustic's I buy, and THAT really makes the difference to the sound Quality and (slightly) the volume too. I loved this type of Video 😮 😂 😊
Hi Don, I greatly appreciate the time you took to watch and the feedback. I do love that Epiphone, brother man 👍🏻
By the way, I had to fix the comment, Don. I keep forgetting you’re on your wife’s account 😂.
If I have only one gripe is the Kluson tuners, as they are way too fast low ratio tuners. Shallers would be much better @ 18-1 ratio . Love ya brother peAce ✌🏻
Hey brother man Dana, right backatcha! The ones on the Gibson hold the tune better. The Epiphone is okay, but I think the Gibson must have a bit better ones on it.
Listening to these two together, just from the video sound, I think it's a matter of sweetness, if you know what I mean. The Gibson has a sweeter sound, the mids are a little softer sounding, a little bit more bell-like. The Epi has a slightly less open sound, not all the harmonics of the notes are coming out - yet. But like all good guitars, I think over time the Epi will open up and those notes will begin to ring out. The thin nitro-cellulose finish of the Gibson will always help to confer a sweet sound, so the Epi isn't going to get the exact same bell-like clarity, but it'll be pretty close, I think. Is the Gibson worth $2200 more? I think probably yes, but maybe not from the point of view of the sound only.
I think you pretty much summed it up. I agree, the Gibson has a sweeter sound and the Epiphone is a cannon. Hope you enjoyed the video and really appreciate the comment 👍🏻
Interesting Randy!
Hi Ms Tina, great to see you! Thank you, ma’am 👍🏻
very interesting.
Thank you, sir 👍🏻
I started hearing good things about the epiphone and watched a lot of videos like this one. I have other Indonesian built guitars that are awesome like G&L electrics. I am pretty sure they are all made at the big Cort factory. Sweetwater told me they are building a new factory in China and all the epiphone guitars will be built there, So pick up an Indonesian while you can. I never buy guitars over a 1000 bucks and I am very pleased with my epiphone. Thanks!
Hi Rusty, yes sir, they have moved the IBGs to China now. Great advice to those looking to purchase one. There are still some for sale out there, but I suspect they will sell out soon. Thanks for a great comment, brother man 👍🏻
Thank Randy. Nice guitar playing, That's the kind of tunes I like to play as well. I have enjoyed playing Neil Young tunes for many years. Of course I love me some Zeppelin 😊@@randysrhythm
Hi Mr. Randy!!! ❤
Hi Ms Laurie 😁
Thank you for "thank you", although I know this song from Chris Cornell rendition. :) cheers
You are most welcome and thanks for the kindness 👍🏻
nice video..are the same strings on both guitars,,,i prefer the sound of the epiphone
Thank you and yes they are the same, Martin Retro 12’s 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm Thanks nice 👍
Is it typically hard, or rather is there a big risk to to taking finish when removing the pickguard? I have the same 50's j-45 and would like to remove the pg, try it without, maybe place a smaller one down the road. Obviously I'd have a guitar tech or luthier do it, but I guess there'd be no guarantees if finish were taken.
Hi, there is a risk, but a decent luthier will have no problem at all. On both of my 45’s, there’s zero evidence that it was ever done. I’d say step on out there and don’t give it a second thought. Appreciate the question and the time you took to view the video 👍🏻
Cover the finish around the pickgaurd with some thick corrugated cardboard very tight against the pickgaurd. Use a hair dryer to add some heat, use a very thin putty knife wrap the edge with one layer of gray tape to slide gently under the pickgaurd gradually lifting ever so lightly. Go slow and easy. Caution: DON'T OVER DO THE HEAT
@jackiedixon5076 Thanks for helping with this, brother man 👍🏻
The Epiphone is a little bit brighter, but i mean in this "Price Range" a great sound. Thanks fore this Review!
It certainly is descriptive in the tone and as you say, a touch brighter. Great analysis and you’re very welcome 👍🏻
I sure don't know the difference between the Gibson and the Epiphone save I have the knowledge that Gibsons have a high standard and quality. Very interesting to hear the information you have shared. I still wish I played because I love guitar music, especially classical guitar. Great presentation as always, Randy! I love to hear you play also!
You’re a sweetheart, Ms Donna. I feel the same way about the keys. I can appreciate the compositions till we all go home, smiling all the way there. Thank you for the constant support, ma’am 👍🏻
Of the 2 you played I liked the Gibson base response ( even though IT was outa tune) however the Epiphone was definitely sweeter sounding (& it was in tune which helped) but it's a close one. Then again if the Gibson had been in tune I think it was definitely the best
Hi Susan, the tuning is something I need to pay closer attention to, ma’am. I appreciate the reminder. The Epi 45 has a very different sound and most assuredly different bracing, not to mention the finish. I don’t think Gibson ever intended the Epi 45 to sound anything like the Gibson, and it doesn’t. However, it is a great guitar for the price. The sustain is unbelievable on the Epi. Thank you very much appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts 👍🏻
Also, while there are noticeable differences, I tend to find things that I like on both models. While the Gibson has nicer low mids and low end, sometimes it comes with the sacrifice of sounding a bit boxier. Likewise, the Epiphone has a bit more of a twinkle in its high-end, which at times, sounds a bit tinny, but always kept under control in a good way. Honestly, from a purely subjective standpoint, I think I prefer the Epiphone. 🤷♂️.
You’re not alone there. A lot of people are saying that exact thing.
Randy, l put a Taylor/ Martin style pick gaurd on my IBG Hummingbird, a 1/3 the size and 1/8 of the thickness, it sound MUCH better!! More resonance, more projection and a sweeter tone.. l feel the IBG Hummingbird def hit the closest out of the J200 and J45.. the J200 is a Georgia mile from Gibson tonewise, built well but no comparison.. the J45 is fairly noticeably different but still very good.. lm just not a fan of slope..give me a good ol Dread!!
Hey Jim, great to see you and get your thoughts. I agree so much about the IBG Hummingbird. I am going to do a comparison video with this Gibson and that Hummingbird. I think that video will be even more interesting. Great to hear from you, brother man 👍🏻
The Epiphone is the Bomb!
Couldn’t agree more, TJ 👍🏻
I have the banner j45 and absolutly love it
Hi Gary, do you have the Gibson Banner, or the Epiphone Banner? I’m really hoping to hear more on the Epiphone, but don’t have a lot of folks that have actually played one of these in the new line up.
The epiphone sounds a lot brighter to my ear. Though I’m not listening in headphones
Hi Rob, appreciate you listening to this one. I do think the headphones will give you a better feel for it. The Epiphone, for the price, is quite impressive. Thanks for the input and hope to see more of you on the channel, brother man 👍🏻
I preferred the Epiphone. It was warmer and louder.
Hi Andy, the Epiphone is a little cannon, for sure. I think they did a great job on it. Appreciate you sharing, brother man 👍🏻
Both sound great but look who's behind them!!! ❤❤
Look at you, Ms Brooke, making me blush 🤗
@@randysrhythm ☺️☺️☺️
To my ear thru this speaker the Epiphone sounds more volume and clean the Gibson sounds a little muddier on the bottom maybe not in person but thru the speaker it does.
Hi Billy, the Epiphone just booms with volume here in the studio as well. It’s a little power house. Appreciate the feedback, brother man and hope to hear more from you 👍🏻
First day of owning a Gibson: I'm gonna sell it
10th day of owning a Gibson: I don't think imma sell it.
100th day of owning a Gibson: ill never sell it.
Hi Colin, this one’s my 3rd and it’s the only one I’ve had that same sentiment about. I’m beyond the 100th day and I’m of the same mindset. Appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
That Epiphone sounds amazing. I have a 1991 Gibson J-45 that I inherited but to learn playing I decided to get a Yamaha to beat up while I learn. I really don't like how the Yamaha sounds in comparison to the Gibson and now I wish I'd bought the Epiphone.
Hi Jim, for the money, you can’t go wrong. I think it’s worth much more than they’re asking for it. It has a warmth that is surprisingly beautiful. Appreciate the comment, brother man 👍🏻
Oh oh oh oh sweet Epiphone of mine !
Hi Nige, couldn’t agree more, brother man 👍🏻
It sounds like the Epiphone has newer strings. It is a bit louder and brighter to my ears. Even more harsh on some songs. I prefer the Gibson for the most part, but not on everything. Thanks.
That’s kind of where I’m at on this, John. The strings on the Epiphone are about a month older than the Gibson, oddly enough. The Epiphone has killer sustain and very impressive for the money, brother man 👍🏻
It sounds just like you described it. The Gibson is richer in the low end with very subtle highs (yet still almost a scooped sound) while the Epiphone is all mids. Of course, the Gibson is an objectively better guitar (and for 4x the price it should be clearly so), but I'm sure there are lots of people out there whose voices might be better suited to the Epi and lots of recording situations where the tone of the Epi might be preferable.
You make a lot of great points, Michael. Great to get your input on this. You are welcome here anytime, brother man 👍🏻
Ah yes I am very interested in the J-45
Hi Dan, I hope this helped, brother man 👍🏻
I love that 1st song, but can't remember the name of it?
Hi Paul, great to hear from you. That first one was Sweet Child O Mine. I think it was Guns & Roses that did it, brother man 👍🏻
@randysrhythm Tx! It was driving me crazy! I'm working on that pinky-stretch now from the D chord and having my morning coffee! 😄 Thanks for the great videos!
@@paulhendershott667You are more than welcome, my friend 👍🏻
I have the Epiphone J45 and I think it is an excellent guitar, but my question is if the 2 guitars weigh the same, because the Epiphone is very heavy, I don't have how to compare, since I don't have the Gibson, could you clarify this doubt. And if all solid body guitars are that heavy?
Hi Mark, small bodied guitars (000, 00, OM) are typically lighter weight. The 45 is a dreadnaughts are a bit heavier because they have more mass. As far as the weight difference between the Gibson 45 and the Epi IBG 45, the Epi is slightly heavier, but not enough to make you put it down. They are both great guitars, just $2,000+ difference, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm Thanks for your answer and for your video since you talked a lot about your way of appreciating these guitars, and IF it is true that it is not in your budget to spend so much money for a Gibson the Epi is a VERY GOOD option, I have it, and it works great, I like the sound although one must get used to the characteristic sound of that guitar, since other guitars with the same specifications of woods and bodies (since the J45 is a model that everyone tries to imitate in color and shape) sound different. I think you get the most out of it with a combination of phosphor bronze 12-53 strings.
Appreciate that input, Mark. Yes sir, these Epi IBG 45s are in a class of their own. They don’t really sound like their Gibson counterpart, but they are a beast, brother man 👍🏻
I played an Epiphone 'Inspired By' J-45 like the one in this video. Compared to my Gibson J-45 Standard, it was a night and day difference. The Epiphone was so much worse in every way. Obviously, I anticipated that it'd be of appreciably lower quality than the Gibson, but I had no idea just how much worse it would be.
Hi f3, I now have the first comment that despises the IBG 45! I actually wish that wasn’t your experience with it, but I can surely appreciate your honesty. I didn’t think it would sound anything like the Gibson. However, this IBG has some crazy sustain, which I wasn’t expecting. Onward and upward, right? I hope to hear more from you on the channel. I really appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm Whoa, hey, I definitely don't despise the Inspired By line. It's a great guitar, but the one I played that was supposed to be a choice example wasn't at all what it was cracked up to be. Entirely different altogether. And I think Driftwood Guitars did a video on one where they cut it in half, and of course it was the "Dude, this is totally better than a Gibson. Gibsons are such a ripoff. What kind of idiot would pay for that when you have this Epiphone that's just as good or better?" spiel. Either I just happened to get miraculously lucky and procured the greatest J-45 ever made and played the worst Inspired By Epiphone J-45 specimen ever made, then it was a very, very different guitar. I don't know, it's definitely a trend these days for people to oversell cheaper guitars (same in the gun world) and act like you're a sucker if you buy a higher-priced instrument. We see this a lot with Squier these days. Sure, there's diminishing returns, but in this particular case, it really was a stark contrast. But I absolutely have no ill will toward this guitar or Epiphones whatsoever. I'm glad they exist.
@@f3uibeghardt522 I surely did misunderstand you then. I have also seen the overselling of less expensive guitars, so I get your point. The IBG 45 and the IBG Hummingbird (the Hummingbird being a great example of what can be done) that I picked up are great alternatives for those that may not be able to afford their Gibson counterparts. As you eluded to, it’s always a great idea to play before you pay, if possible. Appreciate the clarification, brother man 👍🏻
I’m new to the channel and I am genuinely impressed by the authentic perspectives on the vid and in these chat exchanges. Been obsessed with getting a Gibson J45 or 200 for awhile but circumstances may cause me to get the Epiphone alternatives. Thank you Randy. Have you played with the Epiphone L-00 yet?
@@otismanousakos3946 Hi Otis, I have not played the 00 Epiphone yet. I have wanted to, but just never had a chance to. I really wish they would build a Masterbilt version of it with all solid woods. As far the the IBG 45, it is built more like the Gibson J-45 Studio. The body is not as deep, which is one difference. The other main difference is is back and sides. To my knowledge Gibson doesn’t produce a Studio version with mahogany back and sides. It is a cannon, for sure. Just do yourself a favor and don’t buy the cutaway version, should you go down that road. Great to have you on the channel and look forward to hearing more from you, brother man 👍🏻
Robert Plant is making great music with Allison Krause, knocks your socks off.
Hi Weldon, yes sir, he’s still knocking it out of the park, brother man 👍🏻
Oh sweet guitar of mine!!
Jack ~'()'~
Hi Jack! Great to see your smiling face, brother man. Yes sir, great guitar 👍🏻
Iv'e played a few Epiphone ' inspired by Gibson' over here in NZ, and Never played one that matched a Gibson
Hi Susan, the only one of the IBG lineup that gets really close is the Hummingbird. It is unbelievably close to its Gibson counterpart, with only a slightly less clear tone. That said, my IBG Hummingbird is quite a great guitar. If you haven’t played one, I think you’ll be a bit shocked. I’ll likely pick up a Gibson Hummingbird soon, because they are just unbeatable. Yes’m, Gibson has a great sound that many have tried to replicate, but few have ever come close. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
What is that tune at 16 07
Hi Nigel, that is Windy & Warm. It was really made famous by Chet Atkins. I try to play it with more of a Tommy Emanuel twist.
@@randysrhythm thanks I heard Greg Koch playing it
Hmm, this was great, but I’m not sure about the :$2200 difference- the difference is a few hundred 🤷♂️??
Hi Bob, I mentioned in the video, I think, that these two guitars really stand on their own and probably shouldn’t be compared. I still feel that way. The Epiphone is really an amazing guitar. Gibson builds such a great 45, but if my wallet was a tad lighter, I’d get the Epiphone and smile about it. One thing that does separate them is the finish, which we both know how much more expensive a nitros finish is. I can get past the finish for the price difference. I love this Epiphone. I really appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
Great review and discussion. The Gibson sounds way fuller in my opinion- great low end but balanced. The epiphone sounds thinner by comparison. Without the side by side, it would sound fine, but only a Gibson is good enough!
Hi DW, there’s just something about a Gibson and they have always been my favorites of the larger guitar manufacturers in the USA. Appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
They both sound good, but for different voices.
Very well put, Tex. Much appreciate the feedback, brother man 👍🏻
@randysrhythm took me years (decades really) to find Thee guitar voice and comfortable neck. Find it, I did.
What’s the song you play at the 16 minute mark? I dig it
Hi Daniel, that is a tune made famous by Chet Atkins and then Tommy Emmanuel stumbled onto it and added a bit of flair. It’s called Windy & Warm. Appreciate the view, question and the time you took for all of it, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm It's possible that Windy & Warm was the "inspiration" for Southbound? It's not the same song, but sounds very similar. ua-cam.com/video/pMXA_3bliLg/v-deo.html
@@dbullcutterI think you may be on to something. I listen to the link and I hear it. It doesn’t surprise me, since it was such a well composed song. Great catch, brother man 👍🏻
@@randysrhythm Thank you. 👍
The song 🎵 that you played sounds like Sweet Child of Mine
Hi Thomas, it was. Appreciate you, brother man 👍🏻
Epiphone is way more pronounced in the treble. The Gibson has that balanced 3 dimensional sound. Two tonally different guitars that are in the same universe but are not the same planet. Way better value in the Epiphone though and if you took that pick guard off, changed the nut and slotted the bridge and put some unslotted pins I bet you would get another 20% there for about 50 bucks.
You heard the same thing I heard with these and I couldn’t have said it better. I looked to see if I had any un-slotted pins, but I don’t. I’ll order some and give them a try. I really appreciate the feedback and the time you took to give it. Much appreciated, brother man 👍🏻
I remember playing some acoustics at the shop with my ex girlfriend some years ago who by the way knew nothing about guitars. When I played the j45 she enthusiastically said "now that guitar has a soul", and they do! Might pick up the Epiphone someday soon and try those mods since I can't afford the gibson. Anyway, appreciate your appreciativeness. Good looking out!
do you have the same strings on both guitars
Great catch, as it doesn’t appear that I mentioned it. Yes sir, both guitars have Martin Retro 12’s.
@@randysrhythm Epiphone going to bury Gibson Bozeman acoustic line if they allowed to continue. Maybe that's the plan
Just leaving custom shop in USA
The Epiphone sounded best.
Thanks, JC, I love that guitar 👍🏻
The Gibson had more bass sound and the Epiphone had more treble sound. But if you take that giant pick guard off the Epiphone it would probably give it more bass. But no the Gibson is not worth $2.200 more. You could buy 2 more Epiphone's for that..
Funny you should say that, as I recently said the same thing to a subscriber on this channel! That is a great point, for sure. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, brother man 👍🏻
Is removal of pick guard difficult?
@@raymondreeder3274 Hi Raymond, I have been told that it is not. Mine has the pickguard pulled before I got it. I have looked at a few YT videos on how to do it and the process looks reasonably simple. A quick search should pull up some easy to follow tutorials.
@@raymondreeder3274 Just take a heat gun or a hair dryer and heat the Pick Guard up a little. Not to much. Then peel it off slowly and carefully. Then clean any glue residue up with lighter fluid. That's how I got my pick Guard off..
The Eppy has more bottom end...it's richer then the gibson. I haven't heard a Gibson I like in 20 years. The Eppy is not bad.
Appreciate the input on this. That Epiphone is some kind of loud, for sure and some crazy sustain 👍🏻