Hey gang just to be clear, the point of this video is not specifically about gender or race swapping, I honestly don’t care, it’s about Hollywood’s very narrow definition of diversity. Thanks. Be nice.
It's so narrow. Hollywood thinks they can slap someone of color in a film, and call it diverse. Shiat, Captain Planet was a more diverse show than most of this modern dribble coming out now a days.
But Race Swapping is a huge issue. Maybe to a non-minority like you it isn't. To many minorities it is. I don't need to see myself on screen to appreciate a film or story, but don't sit there and give me a story that is based on the Culture, Mythology of someone else and say I have representation because the main character is now Brown. Cinderella is not a Latino Story and does not reflect Latino traditions or culture. The Little Mermaid is not an African Story and does not reflect African traditions or culture. If the goal was to actually represent the culture of Latinos or Africans, then they should have actually created a story that does. Into the Heights is an amazing example of Latino / Hispanic Culture. The upcoming movie The Woman King appears to be an amazing example of African / African American Culture. This is the Diversity and Representation minorities need to fight for. I don't want to see a remake of another Disney tale where the "Heroic" Knight is reskinned as a Latino. I want to see Disney take the mythos of El Cid and turn that into an epic movie. Seriously how is Mexican Ironman and Latino Slant not more vocal about this?
@@dagazrune6453 It's not about diversity but about "everything is politics now" or "social reality" be it artifcial or otherwise. The aim is the saturation of this message as "reality". Minorities are just useful pawns for the above... Eg the example you give that are ineffective prove this and equally the examples that WORK equally prove this too which you also provide.
The recent push for "representation" sickens me. Obligatory intersectional credential preface of opinion; As a black person growing up, I never cared to have my inspirations look like me. The characters I aspired to had strength of character and and other universal positive qualities. Teaching the youth that your heroes should look like you and to convince them that they aren't going to be shit unless someone who looks like you sets the example is toxic as fuck. If it really matters, why is it okay to erase the representation of white children? It also is being done with, in my opinion, sadistic malicious glee against white people. I can't imagine what my life would be like if my parents told me I couldn't be a ninja because I wasn't a turtle.
I saw a thread on Twitter of parents filming their kids' reactions to seeing an Ariel that "looks like them". Given, I am white, but I don't remember even thinking in this way when I was a kid. I may have noticed when characters in TV and film looked different from the people I knew in real life, but I didn't dwell on it. Maybe I just don't remember correctly, or my experience is atypical, or it's ignorance stemming from my membership of the majority ethnic group, but I couldn't help cynically wondering if these kids had been raised and encouraged to think about the race of others in comparison to their own. It just seems so strange to me.
It's a shame they feel the need to push this rubbish, they bang on about equality and bringing people together yet all they are really doing is putting everyone into a box. I remember watching TV or movies and I never thought about the colour of the characters skin, but now it seems that is all I should be focusing on. Once it was seen as offensive to lable people put them in a box, now it is the opposite.
The Ariel thing in particular stings because the last fictional ginger that wasn’t replaced with a black person was Mary Jane in the Raimi Spider-Man films. I saw a list and its was like 27 gingers turned into black people. I think this is yet another case of “the straw that broke the camels back” rather than this specific incident.
As a red head, I really don't care about representation of "my people". I'm just annoyed by the hypocrisy. Replacing a minority with a minority and saying it's ok because the minority you replaced has white skin is fucking infuriating. I grew up getting shit on constantly for being a "ginger" or whatever, and some of the people I talk with say I don't know how it feels to be looked down on or ostracised because I'm white. Total, fucking, horseshit. Not trying to play victim, but I definitely know what it feels like to be judged for something I had no say in. Couldn't give two shits about another crappy Disney product, but I don't appreciate woke culture lumping me in with people who never accepted me in the first place.
The people I have met that always want to give media filled with red flags a chance is staggering to me. I met a bunch so far and they all share the same quality of wanting to be "as impartial as possible" effectively which is utter bullshit sometimes.
@@anelbegic2780 I've lost my patience with people who are too scared to call this BS out. It's gotten better with some people, but the amount of people who used to give me crap when I used to criticize this stuff was ridiculous.
My favourite example of how clueless this diverse movement is in the Star Wars sequels: the white saviour, the black janitor, the vehicle stealing Hispanic, the Asian that can’t drive, and the evil ginger. Really groundbreaking work there bad reboot and mucusfilm…. Strong work.
LOOOOOOL i didnt even realized that haha thats friggin funny actually. Putting them in to the bad stereotypes while preaching diversity. Thats a good one
"Mucusfilm" is a great name for what Lucasfilm has become under Kennedy and Disney! Disney has created so much mucus inducing films and shows that it has become a chest infection that has reached the level of a serious "chronic disease"! The antidote maybe shows like Cobra Kai or films like Top Gun Maverick. Rewatching them in a loop over and over maybe our only hope!
Diversity is fine if it’s organic. If it’s naturally occurring. This however is forced diversity to satisfy a very small class of woke people who consider themselves elite thinkers. They are not. They are the exact opposite of what they believe themselves to be. These people are grossly ignorant and in actuality very racist.
I recently watched Netflix's The Sandman. And they gender swapped several characters. Had a large percentage of black actors and nearly every episode had a different gay/bi character or sexual encounter. Plenty of strong waman who don't need no man. It just feels unnatural and forced and brings you out of the fantasy.
i had to turn the show off. it was ok...nothing great...decent, then just became embarrassingly bad. but it became clear they wanted to play Identity politics musical chairs, not make a good product. it's one thing to lean into the occult, its one thing to invert the scriptural and historical record, its another thing altogether to fck with the source material....but it's the worst thing of all to make something boring
Sandman was OK. Weird it was 50% black when Earth over last centuries is maybe 10% black, not 1 asian or Latino or first nation guess the gods hate that 80%, just cared about the 10% white and 10% black. That woman priest was Indian but she was onscreen for minute.... Gaiman is often similar, just weird gods who half the time act human as if after 10000 years there would be any humanity left even after my 50 I am sick of people, ha..... I admit I went from not distinguishing asian faces then after 5 years of Korea watching it is easy, man was TV white til 2000s..... It's a weird world...
@@VRnamek she did play it well though, and the only reason they did that, was that they didn't have the rights for it..due to an existing show with him.. but Death, there is no reason, a beloved character for decades, based on a real person, was race swapped and dulled down , both in personality and aesthetically ..Neil's only response, was apparently they couldn't find a suitable white actress to play her.. lol I don't believe that for a sec
They had one Arab lady and the Jewish twins, but literally everyone else was black. Every time they were introduced was like a drinking game. I swear there was more diversity 10-15 years ago than now.
Squid Game did this "diversity" thing right: Ali is the only non-Korean main cast in the whole series. He has a plausible explanation for being there, he's a foreign worker in Korea! And that makes him an interesting addition! He didn't need to be super awesome at everything, he represented the person who was always true to themselves in the toughest spots where most other main characters were ready to betray. We wish there was this treatment in more recent Hollywood works!
a real representation of reality. Its all we ask for rather than being forced down our throats "diversity and inclusion" and "the message". Sick and tired of over representation of LGBTQ on tv when in reality they are an extreme small minority.
Excellent point, and the "diversity" was never rammed down your throat. The characters simply were who they were and that's what them compelling, for good or bad. Arguably one of the best shows to come along in quite some time.
I'm Slavic and whenever I see a Slavic person in a hollywood movie, it's always a stereotypical Russian bad guy. Rade Šerbedžija built a career on those roles, but you don't see me or other Slavic people cry about representation on the internet (at least I don't know any that do). Personally, I just point a finger at the screen and say 'hey I know that guy from that show in my country' and move on
As an American, I would be disappointed if I went to a Slavic area and the dudes there didn't remind me of Drago from Rocky. If they were just run-of-the-mill Average Joe's like myself, I'd be pretty pissed.
The reason for that is because in America, white people are just White. They aren't broken up into any other group like they are in the rest of the world. Your culture, your experiences etc are all moot in the wider views of the people that obsess over race and ethnicity. Which is ironic.
The Expanse was a great example of an extremely diverse cast, strong female characters, plus great writing, and in depth character development that made perfect contextual sense.
100% agree. Expanse was also fantastic for having different groups and bringing the viewer into their worldviews without being preachy. You didn’t always agree with their actions but you could understand where the Earthers, Martians and Belters were all coming from. Unheard of it most writing where the left ideology regarding race, sex, sexuality etc. is delivered with a sledgehammer wether it fits into the generative narrative or not.
I can't believe someone in the Merchandising department at Disney wasn't like "Yeah...it's just that we have literally thousands of Ariel products for sale all of which feature a girl with white skin and dark red hair currently in circulation and it would be great for sales if you cast someone who resembled that for this giant two-hour advertisement you are going to release."
@f fs, not really the same. Hasbro decided they wouldn’t make sequel toys because no one was buying Rey or Rose Tico. The idea that Ariel toys based on the Disney cartoon do sell, and hundreds of such products already exist, makes the race swapping even more insane from a business perspective.
Pretty soon less than half the population will be white. You still think it's a great idea to pretend this is a white-dominant society? Any smart businessman or woman has known the future for years now. Too bad your bigotry can't see the big picture.
It is probably one of the reason why Chapeck is in charge now. Also... How many Ariel do you have in the Parks? Also what do you do in the asian parks?
I (white, 45, male, grew up in California, live in Washington) never heard anybody complain about Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse. It was quite simply: AMAZING. I never felt like I was being lectured at, about diversity, or wokeness, or any such thing. It was just an incredibly good movie. The characters were really, really great. I completely bought into the story of Miles Morales, and his uncle, and his dad. What a powerful story! My heart was turning back-flips. Also: From the past -- Terminator 2, and Aliens. My nerd friends and I -- we all loved those movies. And we really liked who Sara Conner had become, and who Ellen Ripley was. All of my nerd friends agreed. And Leia is no push-over, either. But god help us if we criticize The Last Jedi. Suddenly: "You're racist! You're misogynist! You just can't stand to see black people and women on the screen!" No, no, it's not that, ....
I remember a fair amount of eye-rolling when Miles Morales was introduced as the Ultimate universe was intended to replace the mainstream Marvel universe. But the writing was good for that character and everybody shut up.
Yes, I also never had a problem with Miles being a black Spider-Man, because it fits in the worldbuilding and doesn’t try to overwrite the old. There is no improving upon the old Spider-Man or replacing him. They created a new character, that was simply from a different Universe, which makes sense (if a pig can be Spider-Man so can he) Trying to simply change a story or pretend it doesn’t matter for the sake of respresentation without adding something new just takes away from the original and the new. (Elves, Hobbits, Mermaids, …)
@@nolongeramused8135 that was it. The initial assumption was replacement for Peter because of ignorance. Once it was clear it was a whole new character with different, everything save some spider powers, that's when it worked.
Last jedi has the worst action I have possible ever seen be put to film. Throwing away your weapon before charging at someone. Inconsistence armor protection. weapons that fade away out of reality, just in time to save the main character. Even the salt planet battle was just a worst version of hoth. Not to forget story dlc, aka all that media they try to sell you in order to have their films make sense. If I need to watch a tv show, read half a dozen books, along with spending at least a 100 dollars if not more. Just to understand three films. That is a scam, not good story telling. Which makes me doubt any claims of it being a master piece, when I think a true master piece would be closer to something like fellowship of the ring. Starts a story, makes way more sense and is enjoyable on it's own, even before you get to the middle and end of the tale. Gundam the very original tv show, was a failure. It got axed during it's creation. Which how the heck was this thing made is surprising, with all the countless things that when wrong when trying to create it. Which half way through it's run. People started to love it and learn of it being axed. Leading to the demand of bring gundam back. It didn't take ten years for gundam to become beloved. Which also it very easy to find better action than Last jedi. Mobile suit 08, pick your flavor of ultraman, Gridman or something else. There is no reason the action in that film should of been so poorly done. Ultraman Geed was released months before last jedi, which has some rather well done characters like the villains and Laiha being amazing in her own way. Which heck even Orb, which finish almost a year before last jedi was released. Which could of taught them how to handle villains and action better. Which they started the whole blame game before last jedi. There was a more minor case of the race card, when more casual fans were wondering how can Finn be a stormtrooper in force awakens. Since it never explained in any of the movies, the empire slowly switch from clones to using local recruits. Which rather than taking five seconds to explain this in their film, they just play the name game. Which shows they have some awareness of at least a few of these writing issues but are simply to lazy to fix the most minor of things. If all they want to do, is keep shouting names while failing to learn anything. I will be over here enjoying black Lagoon. With Revy being a better written character and more bad a$$ than Rey could ever be. With Dutch being a proper character and not some guy who mops the floors, that they force onto the front lines for reasons.
The same phenomena is in the UK too. Tge Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi) population is twice as large as the black population and not primarily focused on London... yet black representation is far more common everywhere. I think part of this is due to American cultural imperialism (we had George Floyd protests here, for some reason).
It might come to a head in the US. Hispanics are starting to get sick of it as they outnumber them. Get less resources and are often the targets of violence by them. And unlike the US Asian population have the numbers. I never thought I'd see the Spanish ethnicities putting away their distaste for each other in the last 5 years like I have. With a common enemy doing the job.
I think that's because black culture is cooler, it sets trends, in a similar vein to a counter culture becoming trendy, it's a cultural vanguard. South Asian cultures don't have the same impact in Western countries, and aren't as popular among white demographics.
@@beerosaurusrex I don't think so. I think it's partly due to American cultural influence, and partly because a lot of people who make casting decisions live and work in London, where there is a larger percentage of people of African descent than in the general population (nearly 30% in some places). They are reproducing what they see in their London bubble, and end up massively underrepresenting other ethnic groups as a result. At least that's my theory.
@@beerosaurusrex You don't think it's because Hispanics have other native-language media outlets, musicians, fashion, etc. that they don't care about the prodominantly English-speaking market? I'd imagine Hispanics are plenty cool, have plenty of trends....we just don't see it in the largely white and black representation we consume. And I think that's the whole point Chato is making.
Well said. This made me recall the Speedy Gonzalez snafu from about 20 years ago when the cartoon was removed from syndication due to it being deemed harmful and offensive to people of Latino descent. And then it all backfired when many Latino people spoke out to bring it back and were successful.
Even though it’s the most stereotypical person you could have made for the show , it is also THE ONLY representation they have , so best to just leave it there
It’s like they don’t even have to try to be good anymore. They can just grift off of existing properties and blame the fans if we hate their laziness?🤷🏻♀️
Hollywood is imploding. At one time, I would have been pretty distressed to see this, but now? I couldn’t care less. It’s been attack, attack, attack, on their behalf for almost a decade now. They have shown incredible disdain, and seemingly outright HATRED to the fanbase of these franchises. We DO have someone to blame here, and it’s not the usual suspects, it’s: BLACKROCK. The creators of ESG, which ultimately backs studios, and everyone else for that matter, into a corner. This is the plot of Rollerball, being made reality. Look at the BIGGEST corporations in the world, then look at the list of shareholders. BLACKROCK, as well as Vanguard (also BR,) are running the planet.
you're right on everything but the biggest thing it's not failing or dying or imploding....it's a controlled demolition. this is about destroying culture or, said another way, we are on stage 9 of 10 of the marxists destroying America. After the culture submits, the last thing to do is rip up the rule of law and constitution You cannot destroy a culture in permanence so long as the cultures touchstones remain up. Those touchstones represent the past and the future. Why do you think every single beloved franchise has been turned into unprofitable garbage. When an invading army takes a City, the first thing they do is remove the statues and monuments. Thats what this is, just the socio-technocratic 21st century version of that.
I'm screenwriter and have refined my English for as long as I can remember to one day try and break into Hollywood. I have no interest in that anymore.
@@olafweyer859 I hear you. I couldn’t imagine, dealing with these knuckleheads on a daily, or even weekly/monthly basis. It’s become very cult-like, and not at all interested in pleasing the fanbase of any series. It’s really, really a sad time in Tinseltown…
@@merrylderrickson3147 You are very, very right. This is the way it’s meant to happen. I never thought that, in my lifetime, I would see such division and chaos. No one seems to be paying attention, but the destruction of statues, was a way of destroying our history. You are also correct about our beloved franchises being systematically destroyed, one-by-one. As far losing money? It doesn’t matter, one iota. They have access to a fund, that as long as they play ball, they can tap into this fund to recoup whatever the lose.
Thank you so much for saying this. As a Latino/Angelino, I've been saying this for years. Latino's make up a majority in and around the LA area but get so little representation in Hollywood, I would say the same thing is happening to Asians. When Asians or Latinos are represented, they are also typically stereotypes that is not typical of the people we all know.
It's the squeaky wheel phenomenon. Also, there is of course the cultural white guilt by many in Hollywood over slavery. Not so much over conquistador shenanigans south of the border in the 1500s. The irony in this is that Jews are massively overrepresented in both actors and big exces in Hollywood compared to the general population, yet no one seems too concerned about it. "Diversity" is a very subjective and self-serving tool in modern Western civilization.
I find it strange that while Hollywoke is located in an area with a large Mexican population, in the few instances that they make a Latino character it's usually one of the East Coast Latinos (Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican).
I was viewing TVLand one night and watched things from my childhood like Adam 12 and Emergency. I was shocked by the diversity that were in these 70's shows, I forgot that it was there due to so many sources telling me it was not.
Well said man. We can also add that when it gets to fantasy and history we seem to forget all the stories that could feature an actual diverse protagonist. I'm honestly sick of seeing the same old stuff with race/gender swapped characters (that are usually secondary characters anyway) when we have so many different and original stories from all over the world to choose and to learn from.
Everyone's talking about the new Ariel, but I'm more worried about the new Flounder, Scuttle, and Sebastian. How the HECK are you going to animate those characters without them looking terrifying in live action??
Its not just a limited playbook of "Diversity" today, its also a limit playbook of roles and depth to those characters. The have to be flat out perfect and good from scene one already. No development attached, no learning curve required. Hollywood would surly not produce a Movie about a homosexual black woman being an brutal dictator, totally selfish and mean to everyone of different worldview. Same role attached to a straight white man, no issues!
I grew up with shows like Star Trek featuring men and women of various colors and ethnic origins and it all seemed quite natural. I don't care about race and national origins as much as good storytelling, acting and writing. Crazy huh? Thanks Chato...
Star Trek was fantastic, I remember watching the original series and never once thought it was unusual to have the different characters on the Ship. Humanity working as one, just like the current International space station.
But now people are complaining about how "woke" it is regardless even tho it was always so. Woke wasnt always thought of as a negative term til a particular group of people appropriated it.
The most important thing about The Expanse is that the story was practically crafted for diverse representation, and the people who casted the show went all-in. Of course when humanity expands out to the solar system every nation and race is going to be involved, so of course in every space ship and space station it makes perfect sense that the people there would be multiracial with multiple accents and countries of origin. In fact The Expanse was the first streaming service TV show I binge-watched, and the multiracial cast was so natural to the story I didn't even notice that there was any 'diversity initiative'. I didn't catch on until I tried watching some historical serial and saw black and asian lords and ladies in Edwardian England and Pre-revolutionary Russia and thought 'What the hell is THIS?'. That's how good The Expanse was. So if we're going to be 'diverse', make more shows like that instead of butchering established ones, especially established ones that are merely tokenized.
Wait, are you telling me Anne Boleyn wasn’t black? But I thought that was why Henry had her beheaded…Wasn’t he just a bigoted racist who was forced to marry a black woman? While the above was sarcasm, I have no doubt there will be stupid or just ignorant people who see that movie and come away with that idea without ever knowing the actual historical woman was, in fact the same skin color as her husband.
Moana, Coco and Encanto (along with Original Flavour Mulan, The Lion King and Pocahontas) are just from Disney much better examples of diversity than any type of race swapping could ever be. Varied tales from multiple cultures with different types of history that just happens to be their own. Seriously there must be some wonderful Indian, Chinese, African and Mesoamerican myths that could form the basis of any number of entertaining stories. Korean cinema alone has given me 4 of my favourite series in recent years, including the Kingdom that actually was a fresh take on the Zombie genre by setting it in 1600s Korea.
Disney literally have an original princess who is black. They should've made a Princess and the Frog movie with Tiana, not this blackwashed Little Mermaid crap.
Pocahontas was the most ass kissing piece of tripe I have ever seen. She 'teaches' John Smith practically everything. What does he teach her? Zero. And this from a nation, England, that is literally taking over the world at the time. Utter crap.
BUT if they took one of those movies and replaced it with a white character, well... actually they would never do that, which is the point. The reverse they do all day long.
Well yes there are wonderful folktales in every culture (i'm partial to russian and arabic/persian outside of classic european) btw there is i think malaysian cartoon about Saladin which seemed quite fun it is just hard to find with english subtitles. But sadly we live in the era that allows top execs to drop anyone daring to propose original thought into piranha tank Bond villain style while forbidding them to do the same to the hacks that are under the writing level of below-average slashfic writers and to actors that were picked same way that reality show contestants are.
Chato, Thanks for being even minded in your analysis and for not going the over done hate cringe route that alot of other channels do. Your insight gives me a good understanding of why this stuff is happening.
@@dicedoom7162 I think they were mocking the RoP actress who was claiming to be the first female dwarf on screen, then she witched to first black female dwarf. completely ignoring Willow (1988 ) actresses of color playing dwarfs while actually being little people like Warwick Davis.
Why can't diversity exist across a network's or studio's offerings, but without forcing each individual show or movie's cast to look like Los Angeles? If Netflix offered a show about farmers in Nebraska w/ a white cast, Chinese undercover cops in NYC's Chinatown w/ an Asian cast, and families in New Orleans w/ a black cast, the overall portfolio would be diverse, but each show could maintain realism without having fake diversity jammed into each show's cast.
I've been saying this for years. People saying a movie is diverse just because there are some black people in it is not diverse. It's a fake attempt, and I've also said there are more latinos, or native American Latin people (per numbers) or what is traditionally considered as native American. I'm surprised shang-chi got a movie and I'm glad he did.
shang-chi got a movie, because the chinese market is huge - i doubt he would have gotten a film, if he was from tibet, like the sorcerer supreme was supposed to be (and ofc was swapped)
@@METALMARK1000 Hispanic refers to individuals who are Spanish-speaking or have a background in a Spanish-speaking country. Latino refers to those who are from or have a background in a Latin American country.
Right. It's called Fan-Baiting along racial and ethnic lines. It's becoming an alternative form of marketing. Controversy attracts attention. It's bad.
@@Gargamel616 Well, hell, let's take Chris Kingle(?)Santa Claus, who's clearly White European/German, who themselves are Scandinavian descended and recreate him into a 30 year old, 5% body fat, warrior Nubian Price fighting oppression?? And let's reverse engineer Jesus Christ who generally today, in all pictures, looks like a 30 year old European male child of Saturn-Zeus, and place him back to the Levant born, Jewish-Isrealite he really was. Probably 5'6" at best, a little heavy set, much darker of skin, definitely not greek-speaking, thicker of face, a lot dirtier for sure and you can guess the rest.
What confuses me is that re-telling stories Black leads is not some new strategy. THE WIZ came out over 40 years ago. Brandy starred as Cinderella 25 years. What is different is how they are marketed and covered by the press.
It’s a different climate now the WIZ was a retelling and it didn’t same the original . A lot of this new stuff shames the original content and says it doesn’t fit with the new world . I few the WIZ as when we remake a show from another country . Like the Good Doctor had a Korean remake it doesn’t shame the original for having white actors because it’s just a different interpretation .
@@teneiamitchell2650 I am not saying that the Woke Wave of content doesn't feel different. It is just that this is a really old Hollywood strategy. CARMEN JONES came out almost 70 years ago. The difference is that previous white-to-black race bends made an effort to appeal to Black audiences. These don't.
And again, thank you so very much, it is important and reassuring to see people denounce the hypocrisy that hollywood is showing, it is even MORE important to see a person like you, be the one denouncing it.
Much of Hollywood is deeply broken. Fan-baiting is a cynical and wicked substitute for quality, names, writing, awesome producing & directing. I remember the 80s, when great music, movies & TV came out regularly. There’s so much rubbish in this woke millennium, it’s kinda weird & broken. My millennial kids keep finding & enjoying older music, TV, movies. BTW, old white guy, when is the Mongolian Paul Chato stream remake coming out?
People are tired of identity politics being shoved down their throat, being told they're racist if they don't agree, and of course given sub quality products (when they're used to greater) and told to celebrate it
Paul, when you mentioned that Hollywood isn't going to entertain the thought of creativity until it runs out of things to remake, a thought occurred to me. Prior to the 1980s, people couldn't sit there and do a scene by scene comparison of the remeke to the older/better version(s). You would think the people dumping, literally, pallet loads of $100 dollar bills into movies would keep this in mind and demand more effort.
You have to take into account, the technology also matters. Remakes of the 80ies,90ies, up to mid 2000s kinda made sense, as the movies were at least visually superior to the originals from the 50ies and the 60ies. Now,the technology seems to have ran out of steam, and they ran out of understanding for it. Diversity aside, live action Lion King absolutely ASTOUNDED me with the lack of understanding of the medium at hand. Hand drawn classic animation lent itself SO MUCH BETTER to displays of emotion and creature positioning and interactions. The natural constraints of the live action CGI creatures ruined the movie. I couldn't believe anyone thought it was a great idea. But I guess it's what Chado says, if it makes money, it's a hit.
@@codinghusky5196 There was a moment when practical effects and CGI came together and made some stunning sci-fi and fantasy movies. Then, if you want to see what happens when someone who can't say enough is enough is given a blank cheque, look at the Star Wars prequels. So much visual noise. One of the big problems is the absolute lack of fun and excitement. It feels like Hollywood is letting the blind and the hopelessly stupid guide them through a burning barn surrounded by crocodiles. These are strange times, most of what is being done is under the pretense of entertainment, but in the end is infuriating or embarrassing.
Your insights are always great because the paint this social issues and non-issues from a good insider's perspective. The job you do is really important because it allows us to get the other part of the story and that works wonders for a better understanding of what is going on with the distraction industry. Keep on it, my good man, you are doing great.
I'm surprised this channel does not have 1 million subscribers , or more!...When I want to try to understand Hollywood's sound and fury and what they are thinking, this is the go to channel, all laid out beautifully for the layman-with a good dash of humor added! Great job, sir!..
I want a Tshirt that reads, "Chato Denizen." I love what you said about Korean TV shows. I'm American, and don't speak Korean. However, I watch far more Korean romcoms with my wife, and Korean drama, than anything American. The Korean plots are original, interesting, and never boring. American TV is droll, predictable, and usually....boring.
Superb analysis of the core problems, Chato. As you seem to suggest, we have probably just got to wait for this "movement" to run out of steam. Which it will, eventually.
Give me quality entertainment. Good writing. Good characters. Well acted and filmed. The rest is pointless as it’s about entertainment. Not politics. Disney hasn’t figured that out.
Good video Paul. You definitely tapped into some of the hypocrisy of Hollywood these days. Just makes you scratch your head wondering how this new generation of Hollywood producers and executives all seem to agree on the same poor creative decisions, as if cut from the same cloth or produced off the same assembly line.
Thank you, Chato! It's like you made this video just for me. I'm often called racist for sharing similar views that you've discussed. I'm not black, but Anishinabe. I'm Indigenous, a minority within minorities, especially when it comes to Hollywood representation. I'm one of those Disney fans that objects to the race swapping of Ariel, the Little Mermaid. Like you, I've also noticed that Hollywood only offers two flavours. Growing up, I watched more TV than I should have. I love sitcoms and I had previously commented on one of your videos where I had mentioned making a point of watching the "racial integration era" sitcoms of Normal Lear during lockdown. That summer wasn't my first experience with watching "black" sitcoms, though. I grew up watching the Cosby Show, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Living Single, Cosby, Family Matters, Sister Sister, Hangin With Mr. Cooper, Martin, Moesha, right along side the Golden Girls, Friends, Seinfeld, Frasier, Will & Grace, Step By Step, Boy Meets World, Home Improvement and even Corner Gas. I also watched the Young and the Restless with my mom while we cooked dinner. Based on what I saw on television, I assumed that blacks made up at least a third of the US population. This was during the "normal era" of television. It wasn't forced or deliberate black representation like in Maude, All in the Family, the Jeffersons and Diff'rent Strokes. I know those sitcoms were created with messaging in mind. But, when it came to shows like Family Matters and Sister Sister, it was just "normal" comedy to me. In my eyes, mainstream media was black and white. I watched the odd "ethnically diverse" show like All American Girl and George Lopez, but those few "diverse" shows were few and far between. And of all those sitcoms I had listed above, I recall the one episode of Seinfield where Jerry tries to date a "Native American" friend of Elain, but inadvertently offends the woman with racial stereotypes. That's it for Hollywood, one episode where I could visually see someone of my ethnic or racial likeness. And I get it, the Indigenous are thee minority of minorities in the two countries serviced by Hollywood. I can't complain if we're too small of a demographic to matter. It's not like we're transgender or something. But, of all those sitcoms, I have to commend Brent Butt, Lorne Cardinal and Corner Gas. Brent managed to incorporate two Indigenous characters into the cast of his show. And they were depicted as "normal" members of the community that contributed to the community of Dog River. Lorne played Davis Quinton, a municipal police officer. And there was a secondary character named Phil who was also Indigenous who owned the local hotel and bar. These two Cree men were healthy, well adjusted, integral members of their community. That's the kind of representation I need to see. They may not have the wealth and financial success of the black family in Blackish, but those two Cree men living in Dog River, Saskatchewan were normal members the the community. They were as normal as the Huxtable family or the Winslows. They were aspirational in their normality. They weren't better than anyone else. They weren't wealthy or the most successful at the ad agency or hospital (as in Blackish), but they also weren't "poor, suffering or struggling Indians." They were normal, like me and my family and I didn't feel any shame in identifying with them because they weren't depicted as drunk, drug addicted, begging for change or simple little creatures living on the reserve. In more recent memory, I was excited about this new adaption of a graphic novel called "Stumptown" on ABC. The cast of characters included the Canadian TV darling, Cobie Smulders in the lead as Dex Parios, a military veteran turned private detective along side a token black police officer, a token Latin chef turned food truck vendor and a whole slew of Native Americans who was head up by Tantoo Cardinal, a Cree actress from Alberta. At least Walt Disney Television and ABC made good on their diversity and inclusion initiative which they had previously announced maybe two or three years before the premiere of Stumptown. And then it happened. In the season finale, they revealed the character of Benjamin Blackbird, the character the entire murder mystery revolved around. And it was played by nonother than Sam Marra, an Asian-Italian-American actor. ABC Studios pulled some spaghetti western casting with the show's mystery character. The show was cancelled after the first season. Walt Disney Television and FX is doing better with Reservation Dogs. I find it pretty funny, but it's definitely cultural humour. And the show is set on an Indian Reservation and everyone is struggling to live their "best lives," such that they are. Oh, well. It's not exactly made for me, but I at least get the humour. So, after what is almost the basis for a UA-cam video script, I have to (and I absolutely have to) share my opinion on the blackening of the Little Mermaid. Now, I am a fan of Halle Bailey. I watched the entire Blackish franchise of show, of which Halle was cast as an athletic college freshman in Grownish. For me, Halle's character of Sky was the most relatable. Sky and the Indian character of Vivek were my favourite. Subsequently, those two were the non-virtue signalling SJW characters. The rest of the characters are a depiction of everything that's wrong with higher education today. And back to the Little Mermaid. From what I've described above, I'm sure it's plain that I favour a certain kind of diversity and inclusion over others. I like my black characters to be played by black actors, just like I like my Indigenous characters to be played by Indigenous actors. Blacks and Indigenous peoples are both minorities in the US and Canada, as are Latin and Asian peoples. In 2022, it shouldn't be impossible to cast ethnically appropriate actors in corresponding roles. And unfortunately, because white people are the majority, they're not afforded such "courtesies" in Hollywood casting. I'm A-OK with a person of French ancestry playing the part of a Russian. Or an Englishman playing a German. They do it with Indigenous casting, too. Tantoo Cardinal is a Cree woman and she played the part of a Nooksak or Samish or whatever the "Indigenous" people were in Stumptown. I'm fine with these sorts of inconsistencies in "representation" casting as long as it's convincing. So, when it comes to the Little Mermaid, a character and fairytale that's the Danish people and the city of Copenhagen, a Danish actress would be ideal, but a white girl that can pass for Danish is acceptable. I think there should be respect for the artist, his character and his culture, not unlike the controversy over Tolkien right now. If Disney wanted to truly be inclusive and diverse, they would have cast Halle Bailey in a movie about Mami Wata. The default doesn't have to be European fairytales. African folklore is worthy of depiction on the silver screen.
Thanks for your wonderful and considered comment. I think you covered all the points I missed. I have a fine Anishinabe friend, Drew Taylor. And my wife is Métis. I wrote a sitcom called Rupert's Land about the fur trade in the 1800s. It had lots of Indigenous characters but alas was not picked up. Take care.
@@CallMeChato That sounds amazing! I wish I could see such a sitcom, and not just for the Anishinabe and Metis representation. I don't know if you're at all familiar with Thunder Bay, but it's home to Fort William Historical Park which is a recreation of a North West Company fur trading post of that era. The young men and women that work at the park are geeks and nerds for the fur trade and have a group called, The Beaver Club. If only those at the CBC or another Canadian network would see the potential in such a comedy. The CBC especially, does period television so well. Fort William could even serve as a filming location for your series and I'm sure you'd have a built in audience in the Beaver Club and the people of Thunder Bay. I've only become your fan through UA-cam. I may have been too young to have watched Four on the Floor when it aired on TV. I've tried looking for it online to no avail. Do you know who holds the right to the series? It really should be available for streaming on CBC Gem. Oddly, enough, I see that The Kids in the Hall is an "Amazon original," even though it was on CBC long before the advent of Amazon and the internet. Your friend Drew, I'm guessing is a playwright. I don't know him personally, but he is a friend of a friend from my university days. Oh, and sorry for the screen of text. I don't mean to be so wordy. Your videos really appeal to me and I have so much to say in response. Had you been a writing or film professor at U of T, I would have made it a point to take all of your courses. You're just one of those people who can hold an audience and you always have such interesting insight into television media. Keep up the good work. All the best to you and your wife and family.
@@david_walker_esq Thanks David. Didn’t get to Thunder Bay this summer but did visit a similar experience at Fort Gibraltar in Winnipeg. Great idea for a show but CBC wants stern indigenous only. 😅 Métis Crossing was a great stop.
@@CallMeChato OMG! CBC doesn't understand Indigenous humour. I don't know if you've seen Reservation Dogs on FX, but it's one of the few good things Taika Waititi is attached to, directly or indirectly, I don't know. But, it's a good mix of self deprecation and what we call "giibaadis." I don't know what it is in English, but a person who is giibaadis is called a giibaak and that's where the words Quebec and Quebecois/giibaakwa come from. It's sort of like the humour of incompetence if you know what I mean. Fort Gibraltar is one of the sister forts of Fort William. It would make for another ideal filming location. Do you need a token Indian to get CBC interested? There are enough of us that would be more than willing to support your show.
Diversity in story's is what is needed. It feels so forced in many movies shows now. But if they made Original story's that require a diverse cast to tell a good story then we would be interested.
I hate modern diversity in movies and tv shows as its usually not about showing people from different backgrounds with different sexualities. It's now used as a political tool to appease the woke mob and as defence against bad writing, bad cgi and/or bad directing. It's a shame too, some of my favourite characters growing up aren't white but they were my favourite because of how they were well written and I could see myself in them or they were so awesome I wish I could be them. It's a sad time we live in when people have to see themselves in a fictional character to enjoy the character
@@CallMeChato Amusingly the story I heard was that Nick Fury was based originally on David Hasselhoff because he was cool, back in the day. But since he wasn't cool now, when they were making the Ultimates setting they looked for an actor who was cool now. And as you noted, Samuel L. Jackson kicks ass! 😄
@@dustincameron787 David Hasselhoff was the original actor to play Nick Fury in live action, but the character pre-dates Hasselhoff by several decades.
You beat me to it. They asked Samuel specifically during the run of Ultimates if they could use his likeness when the time came for live action Nick Fury the casting was a no brainer
Ultimate Nick Fury first appeared in an issue of Ultimate X-Men, and although he was Black, he did not resemble Samuel L Jackson. It wasnt until The Ultimates which was drawn by Bryan Hitch. Bryan Hitch likes to base the characters he draws on real people. For example, in the comic book version of Wanted, he based the two main characters on Eminem and Halle Berry. But in the movie version they cast James McAvoy and Angelina Jolie.
I used to watch loads of Chinese kung fu movies as a kid, I never noticed my race wasn't represented I just enjoyed the film because only a bigot would focus on representation.
i was at work today talking with my coworker about things and something really obvious sort of it me. this obsession with diversity is purely a visual external thing, they want everyone to look different and dress different and express different. but inside they want EVERYONE to be exactly the same, NO diversity of thought or personality at all.
Not a lot of Arab American Muslim women in Hijab 😺I just was raised by a father who taught me I don't need to see myself on screen to feel confident in who I am. In fact most of my favorite characters are extremely different than me. From Veso-R the white straight male Corpus engineer, to Ghost the floating AI to Cayde- the exo robot. 😺 And I didn't care for . . . . Shock and horror. . . . Ms Marvel 😸
The issue with Rings of power is that its supposed to be set in Tolkiens world, which was written to be an Ancient Mythology for Britain. Heavily influenced by Gaelic and Nordic mythology and Tolkiens own Roman Catholic faith. His stories contain his messages and his description of the world he created. Rings of Power should never have been written by people who wanted to use The Lord of The Rings brand to insert their messages and ideology. The hiding behind the racism and sexism banner isn't working, considering how well House of the Dragon is doing.
Hollywood seems to dislike European mythology because it is too white. So they change it. Why not look at other mythology from other cultures, African, Asian and so on. My ancestry is Scottish/Irish so I would love to see story's fantasy based on the mythology of Celtic cultures. But I would love to see fantasy stories from other cultures as well. But would Hollywood start race swapping for the sake of diversity and The Message.
@@greenarrow219there are so many stories from Gaelic mythology alone. Many modern fantasy draw heavily from Gaelic mythology, Druids, Leprechauns, Elves, Faries,Bnshe ect... Norse, Greek and Roman mythology are better known and therefore more noticeable in popular culture. Unfortunately outside of Ireland the word Celtic is used to describe multiple Pagan cultures across Northern Europe as one, Celts never existed.
@@acemanington Celtic more a descriptive term for culture. Similar languages, art and so on. Unless your interests are in archeology history not many people know Celtic is not a race. Lots of myths and legends have some kind of root in real events.
One of the many things a applaud you for sir is your honesty. When me and my wife heard whom they were casting as Ariel over 2 years ago we actually loved the idea but in those 2 years after a lot of garbage it hit me that they might turn my movie into a soap box for politics rather than give me a good film. I really hope that’s not the case but it’s a dangerous game Disney is playing with literally all of their properties. It’s not just with sports though I believe when you state the reasons as sports tend to always be diverse with the exceptions of hockey and basketball.
a "good" pinocchio remake would have been met with the same criticism as the Lion King remake: "What's the point?" This remake is just met with a "What a waste"
Fantastic points, my dude! Your perspective is always worth the watch/listen. Also, Madea/Ursula? I'd pay good money to watch Tyler Perry sing "Poor Unfortunate Souls."
This horse shit diversity is so insidious that it even worked its way into one of the only old school blockbusters of the past 5 years, Top Gun: Maverick. On the whole the film was mercifully free of preaching about why I'm such a horrible person, even still they couldn't resist giving us a pilot roster that represented all the major food groups in the United Nations. All we were missing was a pilot with a seeing eye dog as his RIO.
That type of diversity (mere existence of different ethnicities, all original characters) seems innocuous and even good. Diversity + heavy-handed preachiness, not so good.
@@wadetisthammer3612 Yeah the whole diversity push is toxic, because it poisons the public to a whole host of casting decisions, when a whole bunch of the actors involved are just trying to make a paycheck. I'm glad those actors in Top Gun: Maverick can pay their bills by being part of something fan-fucking-tastic.
Actually one of the scenes I really thought worked well. When the female pilot finds out the slightly geeky chap with no callsign was her RIO, she simply told him to rack em. A poorly written movie would have had her sighing and making some snarky remarks, you know, to prove what a strong independent woman she was. No, her character immediately knew that if he was there, it was for a good reason. So yeah, the movie made sure to check some boxes but nothing at the expense of the story, so I can respect that.
Another brilliant commentary on what’s up with Hollywood. Been bing watching The Expanse over the past week, a godsend while the rest of the channels are wall to wall coverage of what’s going on in England.
If they're going to make so many changes to live action versions they should just go all out and make it a completely new story with new characters that could take place in the universe of the original, they could of made a new mermaid story about a new character who maybe was inspired by the story of Ariel.
And they don't do that because that's not what they want, they want to replace old stories because they see it as intrinsically white supremacist, I must say, cis white male supremacist, however, Bollywood stories or Chinese stories that have an overwhelming majority of characters of their own are fine. It is an attack on western culture
I find your analysis interesting, although I disagree with the idea that giving Hollywood any support right now helps. I'm going to wait for the current Hollywood culture and industry to die and I'll see if its successor manages to avoid the lack of imagination and fear of the woke mob issues that have poisoned most entertainment over the last decade. Until then, there are books to be read. :)
I've been hearing that the big publishing companies went wokescold recently regarding thinly veiled checkbox requirements on what they will publish nowadays. Fortunately self-publication is a thing now, although I suspect getting reach and attention would be much more difficult since the media critics are in the same boat as the publishers.
I remember when there were so many really great sitcoms that revolved totally around black actors: Sanford & Son, Good Times, The Jefferson's to recall just a few. So darn funny. Oh, and then you had Flip Wilson! Looked forward to seeing Flip every week. As a natural ginger I resent the transformation of the few ginger heroes that made the teasing for hair color and not having the ability to tan tolerable.
It’s all Orwellian doublespeak. When they speak of diversity, they mean monoculture. When they speak about having a dialogue, they mean delivering a monologue. When they speak of tolerance, they mean intolerance. But people aren’t fooled.
Race swapping characters is like a guy giving his new girlfriend his ex-wife's wedding ring...He's too lazy to give the new girl something that's bright, shiny, and new...
The main part of virtue signaling is that the signal is seen and acknowledged. That doesn’t leave much room for subtlety and nuisance and it’s why these attempts at diversity are done in such a ham fisted fashion.
Very touchy subject explored with due caution. No matter what you say on this, there'll be blowback. Raceswapping is a form of racism in my opinion, and I believe its ultimately harmful to those it aims to uplift since it screams of tokenism. Instead of that, why not develop a storyline from existing source material containing a beloved black protagonist, like Blade or Storm, if you really can't be bothered creating something new.
Good delivery. It’s nice to see someone who isn’t a millennial, or Gen X UA-camr that has a similar outlook on todays crazy left wing Hollywood lunacy and feels the same about it as me.
I don't get the obsession with REPLACING white characters with black ones. Why not just create NEW stuff, with new, interesting, original characters - who can be black? Replacing every beloved white character out there with a black one, is really making a statement which can be rather offensive to the majority population, as well as to the fans of the original character. Because on one hand, they are explaining how important it is with representation; and how it can be an important emotional experience to see your race represented on the screen, and yet they think white people won't mind when pretty much ALL of our beloved existing characters are race-swapped?! That's basically like saying "Yeah, you had your time, but we're gonna replace you now." And it's not like we have any other place to go, this is the part of the world where we are the majority. If you visit other countries you will see their majority populations on their screens. Go to China and you'll see Chinese people on TV. Go to India and you'll see Indian people on TV. Go to Uganda and you'll see Ugandan people on TV... You get my point. Thus, it should be perfectly fine to see white people on TV in countries where the majority population is white. I don't understand why it's suddenly some sort of taboo to continue to portray beloved characters who are rooted in white culture as white, when that's how they were, originally. Again - feel free to create NEW characters who are diverse; by all means. They can become just as beloved and important as the white ones. BUT MAKE NEW ONES.
The problem is that rather than spend the money hiring representative talent behind and in front of the camera to create new and original ideas told by those whom they are about, Hollywood continue to bend and shape existing property: its lazy, cheap and insulting.
I would actually like to see content based on the history and mythology other cultures with appropriate actors cast in it. And I like good female leads in movies. But I am so sick of lazy race and gender swapping. I am also sick of incompetent people making bad shows and inserting a few people of colour to use as a defence from criticism. Most of all I am sick of the constant stream of crappy live action remakes of classic Disney cartoons.
There are so many myths and legends from European cultures to African or Asian. It would be fantastic to see those put to screen. But knowing Hollywood they would start race swapping those stories as well. Hollywood was once the pinnacle of entertainment, not any more.
Hey gang just to be clear, the point of this video is not specifically about gender or race swapping, I honestly don’t care, it’s about Hollywood’s very narrow definition of diversity. Thanks. Be nice.
It's so narrow.
Hollywood thinks they can slap someone of color in a film, and call it diverse.
Shiat, Captain Planet was a more diverse show than most of this modern dribble coming out now a days.
Damn... I wanted to be mean
But Race Swapping is a huge issue. Maybe to a non-minority like you it isn't. To many minorities it is. I don't need to see myself on screen to appreciate a film or story, but don't sit there and give me a story that is based on the Culture, Mythology of someone else and say I have representation because the main character is now Brown.
Cinderella is not a Latino Story and does not reflect Latino traditions or culture. The Little Mermaid is not an African Story and does not reflect African traditions or culture. If the goal was to actually represent the culture of Latinos or Africans, then they should have actually created a story that does. Into the Heights is an amazing example of Latino / Hispanic Culture. The upcoming movie The Woman King appears to be an amazing example of African / African American Culture.
This is the Diversity and Representation minorities need to fight for. I don't want to see a remake of another Disney tale where the "Heroic" Knight is reskinned as a Latino. I want to see Disney take the mythos of El Cid and turn that into an epic movie. Seriously how is Mexican Ironman and Latino Slant not more vocal about this?
@@dagazrune6453 It's not about diversity but about "everything is politics now" or "social reality" be it artifcial or otherwise. The aim is the saturation of this message as "reality". Minorities are just useful pawns for the above... Eg the example you give that are ineffective prove this and equally the examples that WORK equally prove this too which you also provide.
@@dagazrune6453 Well said
Everyone looking different, but thinking, saying, and believing the same thing, isn't diversity.
But it’s just what the empire wanted I thought you would be pleased
@@Jaco059 It's Grand Muff, not Grand Moff. He's clearly in Hutt space and just likes the uniform.
Diversity just means anti-white.
Diversity of thought is the only true diversity.
true
The recent push for "representation" sickens me. Obligatory intersectional credential preface of opinion; As a black person growing up, I never cared to have my inspirations look like me. The characters I aspired to had strength of character and and other universal positive qualities. Teaching the youth that your heroes should look like you and to convince them that they aren't going to be shit unless someone who looks like you sets the example is toxic as fuck. If it really matters, why is it okay to erase the representation of white children? It also is being done with, in my opinion, sadistic malicious glee against white people. I can't imagine what my life would be like if my parents told me I couldn't be a ninja because I wasn't a turtle.
Nailed it man. Great observations.
Truth 👍🏽
I saw a thread on Twitter of parents filming their kids' reactions to seeing an Ariel that "looks like them". Given, I am white, but I don't remember even thinking in this way when I was a kid. I may have noticed when characters in TV and film looked different from the people I knew in real life, but I didn't dwell on it. Maybe I just don't remember correctly, or my experience is atypical, or it's ignorance stemming from my membership of the majority ethnic group, but I couldn't help cynically wondering if these kids had been raised and encouraged to think about the race of others in comparison to their own. It just seems so strange to me.
If anything Twitter is pretty racist toward white people. It’s pretty sad
It's a shame they feel the need to push this rubbish, they bang on about equality and bringing people together yet all they are really doing is putting everyone into a box.
I remember watching TV or movies and I never thought about the colour of the characters skin, but now it seems that is all I should be focusing on. Once it was seen as offensive to lable people put them in a box, now it is the opposite.
The Ariel thing in particular stings because the last fictional ginger that wasn’t replaced with a black person was Mary Jane in the Raimi Spider-Man films. I saw a list and its was like 27 gingers turned into black people. I think this is yet another case of “the straw that broke the camels back” rather than this specific incident.
Yea it’s a real crying shame I love redheads
@@TheMasterQuests Redheads, dude. They do things to a man.
As a red head, I really don't care about representation of "my people". I'm just annoyed by the hypocrisy. Replacing a minority with a minority and saying it's ok because the minority you replaced has white skin is fucking infuriating. I grew up getting shit on constantly for being a "ginger" or whatever, and some of the people I talk with say I don't know how it feels to be looked down on or ostracised because I'm white. Total, fucking, horseshit. Not trying to play victim, but I definitely know what it feels like to be judged for something I had no say in. Couldn't give two shits about another crappy Disney product, but I don't appreciate woke culture lumping me in with people who never accepted me in the first place.
The left's blacked fetish is getting a bit much.
mary jane is black now. haven't you seen?
I never had an issue with diversity in my movies until they switched from representation to anti-white. Now I'm done giving these movies a chance.
Tick boxing trumping actual talent was never going to work .
The people I have met that always want to give media filled with red flags a chance is staggering to me. I met a bunch so far and they all share the same quality of wanting to be "as impartial as possible" effectively which is utter bullshit sometimes.
@@anelbegic2780 I've lost my patience with people who are too scared to call this BS out. It's gotten better with some people, but the amount of people who used to give me crap when I used to criticize this stuff was ridiculous.
Holy shit you’re right! It’s not diversity, it’s anti-white. It’s racist.
@@geneanthony3421 giving any form of criticism is seen as toxic.
My favourite example of how clueless this diverse movement is in the Star Wars sequels: the white saviour, the black janitor, the vehicle stealing Hispanic, the Asian that can’t drive, and the evil ginger.
Really groundbreaking work there bad reboot and mucusfilm…. Strong work.
LOOOOOOL i didnt even realized that haha thats friggin funny actually. Putting them in to the bad stereotypes while preaching diversity.
Thats a good one
Remember when there were actual casting directors rather than tick box counters .
"Mucusfilm" is a great name for what Lucasfilm has become under Kennedy and Disney!
Disney has created so much mucus inducing films and shows that it has become a chest infection that has reached the level of a serious "chronic disease"!
The antidote maybe shows like Cobra Kai or films like Top Gun Maverick.
Rewatching them in a loop over and over maybe our only hope!
Ah yes, "diversity"
Diversity is fine if it’s organic. If it’s naturally occurring. This however is forced diversity to satisfy a very small class of woke people who consider themselves elite thinkers. They are not. They are the exact opposite of what they believe themselves to be. These people are grossly ignorant and in actuality very racist.
I recently watched Netflix's The Sandman. And they gender swapped several characters. Had a large percentage of black actors and nearly every episode had a different gay/bi character or sexual encounter. Plenty of strong waman who don't need no man.
It just feels unnatural and forced and brings you out of the fantasy.
i had to turn the show off.
it was ok...nothing great...decent, then just became embarrassingly bad.
but it became clear they wanted to play Identity politics musical chairs, not make a good product. it's one thing to lean into the occult, its one thing to invert the scriptural and historical record, its another thing altogether to fck with the source material....but it's the worst thing of all to make something boring
Yeah, absolutely annoying. Johanna Constantine 🤣
Sandman was OK. Weird it was 50% black when Earth over last centuries is maybe 10% black, not 1 asian or Latino or first nation guess the gods hate that 80%, just cared about the 10% white and 10% black. That woman priest was Indian but she was onscreen for minute.... Gaiman is often similar, just weird gods who half the time act human as if after 10000 years there would be any humanity left even after my 50 I am sick of people, ha..... I admit I went from not distinguishing asian faces then after 5 years of Korea watching it is easy, man was TV white til 2000s..... It's a weird world...
@@VRnamek she did play it well though, and the only reason they did that, was that they didn't have the rights for it..due to an existing show with him.. but Death, there is no reason, a beloved character for decades, based on a real person, was race swapped and dulled down , both in personality and aesthetically ..Neil's only response, was apparently they couldn't find a suitable white actress to play her.. lol I don't believe that for a sec
They had one Arab lady and the Jewish twins, but literally everyone else was black. Every time they were introduced was like a drinking game. I swear there was more diversity 10-15 years ago than now.
I'd rather have 100 people who look the same and think different than 100 people who look different and "think" the same.
underrated comment :)
I have to thank Hollywood for saving me so much money by creating stuff that I refuse to pay money for.
Them using Bailey as both a sword and a shield is the truly sickening part of it all. At least people are catching on, more often.
Squid Game did this "diversity" thing right: Ali is the only non-Korean main cast in the whole series. He has a plausible explanation for being there, he's a foreign worker in Korea! And that makes him an interesting addition! He didn't need to be super awesome at everything, he represented the person who was always true to themselves in the toughest spots where most other main characters were ready to betray. We wish there was this treatment in more recent Hollywood works!
a real representation of reality. Its all we ask for rather than being forced down our throats "diversity and inclusion" and "the message". Sick and tired of over representation of LGBTQ on tv when in reality they are an extreme small minority.
Great shout-out for The Expanse: an object lesson in storytelling combined with diverse casting.
Great show idd.
Exciting & fun with characters you love & love to hate.
And they didn't shove it down your throat either.
Excellent point, and the "diversity" was never rammed down your throat. The characters simply were who they were and that's what them compelling, for good or bad. Arguably one of the best shows to come along in quite some time.
true , true
I'm Slavic and whenever I see a Slavic person in a hollywood movie, it's always a stereotypical Russian bad guy. Rade Šerbedžija built a career on those roles, but you don't see me or other Slavic people cry about representation on the internet (at least I don't know any that do). Personally, I just point a finger at the screen and say 'hey I know that guy from that show in my country' and move on
As an American, I would be disappointed if I went to a Slavic area and the dudes there didn't remind me of Drago from Rocky. If they were just run-of-the-mill Average Joe's like myself, I'd be pretty pissed.
haha, well put
I'm English and it doesn't bother me a jot that the evil genius usually has an English accent.
@@abucketofelves You guys have that Jaguar commercial with all the English baddies that's just amazing.
The reason for that is because in America, white people are just White. They aren't broken up into any other group like they are in the rest of the world.
Your culture, your experiences etc are all moot in the wider views of the people that obsess over race and ethnicity. Which is ironic.
The Expanse was a great example of an extremely diverse cast, strong female characters, plus great writing, and in depth character development that made perfect contextual sense.
100% agree. Expanse was also fantastic for having different groups and bringing the viewer into their worldviews without being preachy. You didn’t always agree with their actions but you could understand where the Earthers, Martians and Belters were all coming from. Unheard of it most writing where the left ideology regarding race, sex, sexuality etc. is delivered with a sledgehammer wether it fits into the generative narrative or not.
@@carpediem6431 totally agree
Agreed, but that wasn't the point which is why is was so good.
@@sagelikea6130 agreed and that’s why it was so good. All of that was beside the point of the show and was organic to the story … not forced.
The expanse have also strong male characters.
I can't believe someone in the Merchandising department at Disney wasn't like "Yeah...it's just that we have literally thousands of Ariel products for sale all of which feature a girl with white skin and dark red hair currently in circulation and it would be great for sales if you cast someone who resembled that for this giant two-hour advertisement you are going to release."
Didn't Star Wars have an issue like this with its toys and the manufacturers started refusing to make them because they weren't selling?
@f fs, not really the same. Hasbro decided they wouldn’t make sequel toys because no one was buying Rey or Rose Tico.
The idea that Ariel toys based on the Disney cartoon do sell, and hundreds of such products already exist, makes the race swapping even more insane from a business perspective.
Pretty soon less than half the population will be white. You still think it's a great idea to pretend this is a white-dominant society? Any smart businessman or woman has known the future for years now. Too bad your bigotry can't see the big picture.
It is probably one of the reason why Chapeck is in charge now.
Also... How many Ariel do you have in the Parks? Also what do you do in the asian parks?
I wonder what will happen in Disneyland lol..did they even consult them? Gunna be highly confusing for kids. Why not make her a different mermaid?
I (white, 45, male, grew up in California, live in Washington) never heard anybody complain about Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse. It was quite simply: AMAZING. I never felt like I was being lectured at, about diversity, or wokeness, or any such thing. It was just an incredibly good movie. The characters were really, really great. I completely bought into the story of Miles Morales, and his uncle, and his dad. What a powerful story! My heart was turning back-flips.
Also: From the past -- Terminator 2, and Aliens. My nerd friends and I -- we all loved those movies. And we really liked who Sara Conner had become, and who Ellen Ripley was. All of my nerd friends agreed. And Leia is no push-over, either.
But god help us if we criticize The Last Jedi. Suddenly: "You're racist! You're misogynist! You just can't stand to see black people and women on the screen!"
No, no, it's not that, ....
I remember a fair amount of eye-rolling when Miles Morales was introduced as the Ultimate universe was intended to replace the mainstream Marvel universe. But the writing was good for that character and everybody shut up.
Yes,
I also never had a problem with Miles being a black Spider-Man, because it fits in the worldbuilding and doesn’t try to overwrite the old.
There is no improving upon the old Spider-Man or replacing him.
They created a new character, that was simply from a different Universe, which makes sense (if a pig can be Spider-Man so can he)
Trying to simply change a story or pretend it doesn’t matter for the sake of respresentation without adding something new just takes away from the original and the new. (Elves, Hobbits, Mermaids, …)
@@nolongeramused8135 that was it. The initial assumption was replacement for Peter because of ignorance. Once it was clear it was a whole new character with different, everything save some spider powers, that's when it worked.
@@wenzelfelgentreu5988 didn't realize you already said what I said lolol
Last jedi has the worst action I have possible ever seen be put to film. Throwing away your weapon before charging at someone. Inconsistence armor protection. weapons that fade away out of reality, just in time to save the main character. Even the salt planet battle was just a worst version of hoth. Not to forget story dlc, aka all that media they try to sell you in order to have their films make sense. If I need to watch a tv show, read half a dozen books, along with spending at least a 100 dollars if not more. Just to understand three films. That is a scam, not good story telling. Which makes me doubt any claims of it being a master piece, when I think a true master piece would be closer to something like fellowship of the ring. Starts a story, makes way more sense and is enjoyable on it's own, even before you get to the middle and end of the tale.
Gundam the very original tv show, was a failure. It got axed during it's creation. Which how the heck was this thing made is surprising, with all the countless things that when wrong when trying to create it. Which half way through it's run. People started to love it and learn of it being axed. Leading to the demand of bring gundam back. It didn't take ten years for gundam to become beloved. Which also it very easy to find better action than Last jedi. Mobile suit 08, pick your flavor of ultraman, Gridman or something else. There is no reason the action in that film should of been so poorly done. Ultraman Geed was released months before last jedi, which has some rather well done characters like the villains and Laiha being amazing in her own way. Which heck even Orb, which finish almost a year before last jedi was released. Which could of taught them how to handle villains and action better.
Which they started the whole blame game before last jedi. There was a more minor case of the race card, when more casual fans were wondering how can Finn be a stormtrooper in force awakens. Since it never explained in any of the movies, the empire slowly switch from clones to using local recruits. Which rather than taking five seconds to explain this in their film, they just play the name game. Which shows they have some awareness of at least a few of these writing issues but are simply to lazy to fix the most minor of things. If all they want to do, is keep shouting names while failing to learn anything. I will be over here enjoying black Lagoon. With Revy being a better written character and more bad a$$ than Rey could ever be. With Dutch being a proper character and not some guy who mops the floors, that they force onto the front lines for reasons.
The same phenomena is in the UK too. Tge Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi) population is twice as large as the black population and not primarily focused on London... yet black representation is far more common everywhere.
I think part of this is due to American cultural imperialism (we had George Floyd protests here, for some reason).
It might come to a head in the US. Hispanics are starting to get sick of it as they outnumber them. Get less resources and are often the targets of violence by them. And unlike the US Asian population have the numbers. I never thought I'd see the Spanish ethnicities putting away their distaste for each other in the last 5 years like I have. With a common enemy doing the job.
I think that's because black culture is cooler, it sets trends, in a similar vein to a counter culture becoming trendy, it's a cultural vanguard. South Asian cultures don't have the same impact in Western countries, and aren't as popular among white demographics.
@@beerosaurusrex I don't think so. I think it's partly due to American cultural influence, and partly because a lot of people who make casting decisions live and work in London, where there is a larger percentage of people of African descent than in the general population (nearly 30% in some places). They are reproducing what they see in their London bubble, and end up massively underrepresenting other ethnic groups as a result. At least that's my theory.
@@beerosaurusrex You don't think it's because Hispanics have other native-language media outlets, musicians, fashion, etc. that they don't care about the prodominantly English-speaking market? I'd imagine Hispanics are plenty cool, have plenty of trends....we just don't see it in the largely white and black representation we consume. And I think that's the whole point Chato is making.
I believe the black population in the UK is about 2% and the South Asian population is about 7%.
And I'm here in remote Finlandia thinking diversity is an old, old wooden ship from the Civil War era.. I feel so guilty.
Well said. This made me recall the Speedy Gonzalez snafu from about 20 years ago when the cartoon was removed from syndication due to it being deemed harmful and offensive to people of Latino descent. And then it all backfired when many Latino people spoke out to bring it back and were successful.
What?! Speedy Gonzalez is awesome! Andale!
Arriba, arriba, arriba!
Even though it’s the most stereotypical person you could have made for the show , it is also THE ONLY representation they have , so best to just leave it there
Not forgetting that Speedy always came out on top!
They still never made that Speedy Gonzales movie tho...
They aren't trying to make money, it seems they are just trying to make controversy.
It’s like they don’t even have to try to be good anymore.
They can just grift off of existing properties and blame the fans if we hate their laziness?🤷🏻♀️
Hollywood is imploding. At one time, I would have been pretty distressed to see this, but now? I couldn’t care less. It’s been attack, attack, attack, on their behalf for almost a decade now. They have shown incredible disdain, and seemingly outright HATRED to the fanbase of these franchises. We DO have someone to blame here, and it’s not the usual suspects, it’s: BLACKROCK. The creators of ESG, which ultimately backs studios, and everyone else for that matter, into a corner. This is the plot of Rollerball, being made reality. Look at the BIGGEST corporations in the world, then look at the list of shareholders. BLACKROCK, as well as Vanguard (also BR,) are running the planet.
you're right on everything but the biggest thing
it's not failing or dying or imploding....it's a controlled demolition.
this is about destroying culture
or, said another way, we are on stage 9 of 10 of the marxists destroying America.
After the culture submits, the last thing to do is rip up the rule of law and constitution
You cannot destroy a culture in permanence so long as the cultures touchstones remain up. Those touchstones represent the past and the future.
Why do you think every single beloved franchise has been turned into unprofitable garbage.
When an invading army takes a City, the first thing they do is remove the statues and monuments.
Thats what this is, just the socio-technocratic 21st century version of that.
I've been saying this on every video and almost no one cares or responds to it. Glad I'm not alone at seeing the company behind the curtain.
I'm screenwriter and have refined my English for as long as I can remember to one day try and break into Hollywood. I have no interest in that anymore.
@@olafweyer859 I hear you. I couldn’t imagine, dealing with these knuckleheads on a daily, or even weekly/monthly basis. It’s become very cult-like, and not at all interested in pleasing the fanbase of any series. It’s really, really a sad time in Tinseltown…
@@merrylderrickson3147 You are very, very right. This is the way it’s meant to happen. I never thought that, in my lifetime, I would see such division and chaos. No one seems to be paying attention, but the destruction of statues, was a way of destroying our history. You are also correct about our beloved franchises being systematically destroyed, one-by-one. As far losing money? It doesn’t matter, one iota. They have access to a fund, that as long as they play ball, they can tap into this fund to recoup whatever the lose.
Thank you so much for saying this. As a Latino/Angelino, I've been saying this for years. Latino's make up a majority in and around the LA area but get so little representation in Hollywood, I would say the same thing is happening to Asians. When Asians or Latinos are represented, they are also typically stereotypes that is not typical of the people we all know.
It's the squeaky wheel phenomenon. Also, there is of course the cultural white guilt by many in Hollywood over slavery. Not so much over conquistador shenanigans south of the border in the 1500s.
The irony in this is that Jews are massively overrepresented in both actors and big exces in Hollywood compared to the general population, yet no one seems too concerned about it.
"Diversity" is a very subjective and self-serving tool in modern Western civilization.
@@i_kill_for_zardoz Yes, absolutely to this.
Stereotypes like, "Ey fuker. Don't mess wit my dog, homes!" 😆
I find it strange that while Hollywoke is located in an area with a large Mexican population, in the few instances that they make a Latino character it's usually one of the East Coast Latinos (Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican).
Latinos are included, whenever the story requires a lame joke about tacos. That's literally how simplistic Hollywood writers are.
Thank you. Hollywood is disgusting.
I was viewing TVLand one night and watched things from my childhood like Adam 12 and Emergency. I was shocked by the diversity that were in these 70's shows, I forgot that it was there due to so many sources telling me it was not.
Well said man. We can also add that when it gets to fantasy and history we seem to forget all the stories that could feature an actual diverse protagonist. I'm honestly sick of seeing the same old stuff with race/gender swapped characters (that are usually secondary characters anyway) when we have so many different and original stories from all over the world to choose and to learn from.
Everyone's talking about the new Ariel, but I'm more worried about the new Flounder, Scuttle, and Sebastian. How the HECK are you going to animate those characters without them looking terrifying in live action??
😂
One word. Awful 😂
Their cgi is gonna be so cursed. 😂
Canadians assembling in hockey rinks…LOL 😆
It's amusing that the SJW's apparently have no problem appropriating European culture myths and legends for their "Representation"
Just try doing that to Chinese literature and find out whether they find it insulting and absurd.
I don't see any 'representation' in Bollywood movies, guess that's different.
@@secondchance6603 Based bollywood.
The difference is India doesn't have self flagellating white people who try to out virtue signal each other.
@@sillypuppy5940 there goes my dream of gay black midget version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms
@@beeman4266 True and now the Queen is dead they're sharpening their knives.
Its not just a limited playbook of "Diversity" today, its also a limit playbook of roles and depth to those characters. The have to be flat out perfect and good from scene one already. No development attached, no learning curve required. Hollywood would surly not produce a Movie about a homosexual black woman being an brutal dictator, totally selfish and mean to everyone of different worldview. Same role attached to a straight white man, no issues!
I grew up with shows like Star Trek featuring men and women of various colors and ethnic origins and it all seemed quite natural. I don't care about race and national origins as much as good storytelling, acting and writing. Crazy huh? Thanks Chato...
Star Trek was fantastic, I remember watching the original series and never once thought it was unusual to have the different characters on the Ship.
Humanity working as one, just like the current International space station.
But now people are complaining about how "woke" it is regardless even tho it was always so.
Woke wasnt always thought of as a negative term til a particular group of people appropriated it.
The most important thing about The Expanse is that the story was practically crafted for diverse representation, and the people who casted the show went all-in. Of course when humanity expands out to the solar system every nation and race is going to be involved, so of course in every space ship and space station it makes perfect sense that the people there would be multiracial with multiple accents and countries of origin.
In fact The Expanse was the first streaming service TV show I binge-watched, and the multiracial cast was so natural to the story I didn't even notice that there was any 'diversity initiative'. I didn't catch on until I tried watching some historical serial and saw black and asian lords and ladies in Edwardian England and Pre-revolutionary Russia and thought 'What the hell is THIS?'. That's how good The Expanse was.
So if we're going to be 'diverse', make more shows like that instead of butchering established ones, especially established ones that are merely tokenized.
Wait, are you telling me Anne Boleyn wasn’t black? But I thought that was why Henry had her beheaded…Wasn’t he just a bigoted racist who was forced to marry a black woman?
While the above was sarcasm, I have no doubt there will be stupid or just ignorant people who see that movie and come away with that idea without ever knowing the actual historical woman was, in fact the same skin color as her husband.
@@stevereynolds5684
LOL!
Funny but an excellent point. Too many people aren't really educated enough to realize it's not historical.
I hear that Disney is making a BIO PIC about Hitler starring Will Smith .
You are wise Chato. Hollywood diversity is not about diversity, it's about compliance.
Disney have forgotten how to be Disney. All they can do is trawl their catalogue and make substandard husks of the originals..
And they consider us the bad guys for not just mindlessly going along with it.
Moana, Coco and Encanto (along with Original Flavour Mulan, The Lion King and Pocahontas) are just from Disney much better examples of diversity than any type of race swapping could ever be. Varied tales from multiple cultures with different types of history that just happens to be their own.
Seriously there must be some wonderful Indian, Chinese, African and Mesoamerican myths that could form the basis of any number of entertaining stories. Korean cinema alone has given me 4 of my favourite series in recent years, including the Kingdom that actually was a fresh take on the Zombie genre by setting it in 1600s Korea.
Disney literally have an original princess who is black.
They should've made a Princess and the Frog movie with Tiana, not this blackwashed Little Mermaid crap.
Pocahontas was the most ass kissing piece of tripe I have ever seen. She 'teaches' John Smith practically everything. What does he teach her? Zero. And this from a nation, England, that is literally taking over the world at the time. Utter crap.
They instead race swap existing character and then DEFY you to complain.
Don't make them call you a racist! Oh no, don't do it! They'll do it!
BUT if they took one of those movies and replaced it with a white character, well... actually they would never do that, which is the point. The reverse they do all day long.
Well yes there are wonderful folktales in every culture (i'm partial to russian and arabic/persian outside of classic european) btw there is i think malaysian cartoon about Saladin which seemed quite fun it is just hard to find with english subtitles.
But sadly we live in the era that allows top execs to drop anyone daring to propose original thought into piranha tank Bond villain style while forbidding them to do the same to the hacks that are under the writing level of below-average slashfic writers and to actors that were picked same way that reality show contestants are.
Chato, Thanks for being even minded in your analysis and for not going the over done hate cringe route that alot of other channels do. Your insight gives me a good understanding of why this stuff is happening.
at least the actress can now claim to be the 'first mermaid of colour'.
the pirates movies had a black mermaid, also a disney movie. its a background character but still...
Wow they really aren’t doing anything new with this remake then 💀
@@dicedoom7162 I think they were mocking the RoP actress who was claiming to be the first female dwarf on screen, then she witched to first black female dwarf.
completely ignoring Willow (1988 ) actresses of color playing dwarfs while actually being little people like Warwick Davis.
A black mermaid makes zero sense. You don’t need dark melanin if you spend your time deep underwater, where most of the UV gets filtered out.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 stop over-thinking and consume product.
The marketing strategy of the 2020’s is: “ You MUST LIKE our product to show the world you are NOT a bigot”
I love that you bring up The Expanse. It is the best "new" show that "complies" with the absurd quota without commiting suicide to do so
becouse it has a futuristic setting so it does not treat the audience as idiots bringing African actor to viking setting :)
Why can't diversity exist across a network's or studio's offerings, but without forcing each individual show or movie's cast to look like Los Angeles? If Netflix offered a show about farmers in Nebraska w/ a white cast, Chinese undercover cops in NYC's Chinatown w/ an Asian cast, and families in New Orleans w/ a black cast, the overall portfolio would be diverse, but each show could maintain realism without having fake diversity jammed into each show's cast.
I've been saying this for years. People saying a movie is diverse just because there are some black people in it is not diverse. It's a fake attempt, and I've also said there are more latinos, or native American Latin people (per numbers) or what is traditionally considered as native American. I'm surprised shang-chi got a movie and I'm glad he did.
It's as sincere as the boss throwing a pizza party to repay a month of unpaid overtime.
"native American Latino people"?
the correct word is hispanic, not "latino", that was just some invention that does not make any sense
shang-chi got a movie, because the chinese market is huge - i doubt he would have gotten a film, if he was from tibet, like the sorcerer supreme was supposed to be (and ofc was swapped)
@@METALMARK1000 Hispanic refers to individuals who are Spanish-speaking or have a background in a Spanish-speaking country. Latino refers to those who are from or have a background in a Latin American country.
Right. It's called Fan-Baiting along racial and ethnic lines. It's becoming an alternative form of marketing. Controversy attracts attention. It's bad.
And cosmetically shallow.
Or maybe it's just about making a fictional mermaid that lives in the Caribbean with a Jamaican crab best friend Black. As one would surely expect.
@@Gargamel616 Well, hell, let's take Chris Kingle(?)Santa Claus, who's clearly White European/German, who themselves are Scandinavian descended and recreate him into a 30 year old, 5% body fat, warrior Nubian Price fighting oppression?? And let's reverse engineer Jesus Christ who generally today, in all pictures, looks like a 30 year old European male child of Saturn-Zeus, and place him back to the Levant born, Jewish-Isrealite he really was. Probably 5'6" at best, a little heavy set, much darker of skin, definitely not greek-speaking, thicker of face, a lot dirtier for sure and you can guess the rest.
What confuses me is that re-telling stories Black leads is not some new strategy. THE WIZ came out over 40 years ago. Brandy starred as Cinderella 25 years. What is different is how they are marketed and covered by the press.
It’s a different climate now the WIZ was a retelling and it didn’t same the original . A lot of this new stuff shames the original content and says it doesn’t fit with the new world . I few the WIZ as when we remake a show from another country . Like the Good Doctor had a Korean remake it doesn’t shame the original for having white actors because it’s just a different interpretation .
@@teneiamitchell2650 I am not saying that the Woke Wave of content doesn't feel different. It is just that this is a really old Hollywood strategy. CARMEN JONES came out almost 70 years ago.
The difference is that previous white-to-black race bends made an effort to appeal to Black audiences. These don't.
Tolkien fans be: GIVE US OUR FRANCHISE BACK
Star Wars fans be: GIVE US OUR FRANCHISE BACK
Cobra Kai fans be having a block party
Make original diverse characters. Changing old characters, inserting diversity where it makes no sense is disrespectful to people of all backgrounds.
And again, thank you so very much, it is important and reassuring to see people denounce the hypocrisy that hollywood is showing, it is even MORE important to see a person like you, be the one denouncing it.
Much of Hollywood is deeply broken. Fan-baiting is a cynical and wicked substitute for quality, names, writing, awesome producing & directing. I remember the 80s, when great music, movies & TV came out regularly.
There’s so much rubbish in this woke millennium, it’s kinda weird & broken. My millennial kids keep finding & enjoying older music, TV, movies.
BTW, old white guy, when is the Mongolian Paul Chato stream remake coming out?
People are tired of identity politics being shoved down their throat, being told they're racist if they don't agree, and of course given sub quality products (when they're used to greater) and told to celebrate it
Paul, when you mentioned that Hollywood isn't going to entertain the thought of creativity until it runs out of things to remake, a thought occurred to me. Prior to the 1980s, people couldn't sit there and do a scene by scene comparison of the remeke to the older/better version(s). You would think the people dumping, literally, pallet loads of $100 dollar bills into movies would keep this in mind and demand more effort.
You have to take into account, the technology also matters.
Remakes of the 80ies,90ies, up to mid 2000s kinda made sense, as the movies were at least visually superior to the originals from the 50ies and the 60ies.
Now,the technology seems to have ran out of steam, and they ran out of understanding for it. Diversity aside, live action Lion King absolutely ASTOUNDED me with the lack of understanding of the medium at hand. Hand drawn classic animation lent itself SO MUCH BETTER to displays of emotion and creature positioning and interactions. The natural constraints of the live action CGI creatures ruined the movie. I couldn't believe anyone thought it was a great idea.
But I guess it's what Chado says, if it makes money, it's a hit.
@@codinghusky5196 There was a moment when practical effects and CGI came together and made some stunning sci-fi and fantasy movies. Then, if you want to see what happens when someone who can't say enough is enough is given a blank cheque, look at the Star Wars prequels. So much visual noise. One of the big problems is the absolute lack of fun and excitement. It feels like Hollywood is letting the blind and the hopelessly stupid guide them through a burning barn surrounded by crocodiles.
These are strange times, most of what is being done is under the pretense of entertainment, but in the end is infuriating or embarrassing.
I haven't watched 'movies' for a decade... because I'm not stupid enough. However, as general intelligences continue to plummet...
Your insights are always great because the paint this social issues and non-issues from a good insider's perspective. The job you do is really important because it allows us to get the other part of the story and that works wonders for a better understanding of what is going on with the distraction industry. Keep on it, my good man, you are doing great.
Agreed!
Train to Busan was the best movie I’ve seen since kill bill.
I'm surprised this channel does not have 1 million subscribers , or more!...When I want to try to understand Hollywood's sound and fury and what they are thinking, this is the go to channel, all laid out beautifully for the layman-with a good dash of humor added! Great job, sir!..
echo: Great job, sir!...
I want a Tshirt that reads, "Chato Denizen." I love what you said about Korean TV shows. I'm American, and don't speak Korean. However, I watch far more Korean romcoms with my wife, and Korean drama, than anything American. The Korean plots are original, interesting, and never boring. American TV is droll, predictable, and usually....boring.
Superb analysis of the core problems, Chato. As you seem to suggest, we have probably just got to wait for this "movement" to run out of steam. Which it will, eventually.
The Activists in Hollywood have shifted priorities: message over Money. They are on a quest to make us all 'Better'
Give me quality entertainment. Good writing. Good characters. Well acted and filmed. The rest is pointless as it’s about entertainment. Not politics. Disney hasn’t figured that out.
Good video Paul. You definitely tapped into some of the hypocrisy of Hollywood these days. Just makes you scratch your head wondering how this new generation of Hollywood producers and executives all seem to agree on the same poor creative decisions, as if cut from the same cloth or produced off the same assembly line.
They all went to the same schools and had it pounded it into their heads
Thank you for that short brief message to Jim Carrey. I haven't laughed like that for a long time.
Once again spot on the money. Time for Canadian culture to take a stand, the Mr. Canoehead movie needs to be done.
Thank you, Chato! It's like you made this video just for me. I'm often called racist for sharing similar views that you've discussed. I'm not black, but Anishinabe. I'm Indigenous, a minority within minorities, especially when it comes to Hollywood representation. I'm one of those Disney fans that objects to the race swapping of Ariel, the Little Mermaid. Like you, I've also noticed that Hollywood only offers two flavours. Growing up, I watched more TV than I should have. I love sitcoms and I had previously commented on one of your videos where I had mentioned making a point of watching the "racial integration era" sitcoms of Normal Lear during lockdown. That summer wasn't my first experience with watching "black" sitcoms, though. I grew up watching the Cosby Show, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Living Single, Cosby, Family Matters, Sister Sister, Hangin With Mr. Cooper, Martin, Moesha, right along side the Golden Girls, Friends, Seinfeld, Frasier, Will & Grace, Step By Step, Boy Meets World, Home Improvement and even Corner Gas. I also watched the Young and the Restless with my mom while we cooked dinner. Based on what I saw on television, I assumed that blacks made up at least a third of the US population. This was during the "normal era" of television. It wasn't forced or deliberate black representation like in Maude, All in the Family, the Jeffersons and Diff'rent Strokes. I know those sitcoms were created with messaging in mind. But, when it came to shows like Family Matters and Sister Sister, it was just "normal" comedy to me. In my eyes, mainstream media was black and white. I watched the odd "ethnically diverse" show like All American Girl and George Lopez, but those few "diverse" shows were few and far between. And of all those sitcoms I had listed above, I recall the one episode of Seinfield where Jerry tries to date a "Native American" friend of Elain, but inadvertently offends the woman with racial stereotypes. That's it for Hollywood, one episode where I could visually see someone of my ethnic or racial likeness. And I get it, the Indigenous are thee minority of minorities in the two countries serviced by Hollywood. I can't complain if we're too small of a demographic to matter. It's not like we're transgender or something. But, of all those sitcoms, I have to commend Brent Butt, Lorne Cardinal and Corner Gas. Brent managed to incorporate two Indigenous characters into the cast of his show. And they were depicted as "normal" members of the community that contributed to the community of Dog River. Lorne played Davis Quinton, a municipal police officer. And there was a secondary character named Phil who was also Indigenous who owned the local hotel and bar. These two Cree men were healthy, well adjusted, integral members of their community. That's the kind of representation I need to see. They may not have the wealth and financial success of the black family in Blackish, but those two Cree men living in Dog River, Saskatchewan were normal members the the community. They were as normal as the Huxtable family or the Winslows. They were aspirational in their normality. They weren't better than anyone else. They weren't wealthy or the most successful at the ad agency or hospital (as in Blackish), but they also weren't "poor, suffering or struggling Indians." They were normal, like me and my family and I didn't feel any shame in identifying with them because they weren't depicted as drunk, drug addicted, begging for change or simple little creatures living on the reserve. In more recent memory, I was excited about this new adaption of a graphic novel called "Stumptown" on ABC. The cast of characters included the Canadian TV darling, Cobie Smulders in the lead as Dex Parios, a military veteran turned private detective along side a token black police officer, a token Latin chef turned food truck vendor and a whole slew of Native Americans who was head up by Tantoo Cardinal, a Cree actress from Alberta. At least Walt Disney Television and ABC made good on their diversity and inclusion initiative which they had previously announced maybe two or three years before the premiere of Stumptown. And then it happened. In the season finale, they revealed the character of Benjamin Blackbird, the character the entire murder mystery revolved around. And it was played by nonother than Sam Marra, an Asian-Italian-American actor. ABC Studios pulled some spaghetti western casting with the show's mystery character. The show was cancelled after the first season. Walt Disney Television and FX is doing better with Reservation Dogs. I find it pretty funny, but it's definitely cultural humour. And the show is set on an Indian Reservation and everyone is struggling to live their "best lives," such that they are. Oh, well. It's not exactly made for me, but I at least get the humour. So, after what is almost the basis for a UA-cam video script, I have to (and I absolutely have to) share my opinion on the blackening of the Little Mermaid. Now, I am a fan of Halle Bailey. I watched the entire Blackish franchise of show, of which Halle was cast as an athletic college freshman in Grownish. For me, Halle's character of Sky was the most relatable. Sky and the Indian character of Vivek were my favourite. Subsequently, those two were the non-virtue signalling SJW characters. The rest of the characters are a depiction of everything that's wrong with higher education today. And back to the Little Mermaid. From what I've described above, I'm sure it's plain that I favour a certain kind of diversity and inclusion over others. I like my black characters to be played by black actors, just like I like my Indigenous characters to be played by Indigenous actors. Blacks and Indigenous peoples are both minorities in the US and Canada, as are Latin and Asian peoples. In 2022, it shouldn't be impossible to cast ethnically appropriate actors in corresponding roles. And unfortunately, because white people are the majority, they're not afforded such "courtesies" in Hollywood casting. I'm A-OK with a person of French ancestry playing the part of a Russian. Or an Englishman playing a German. They do it with Indigenous casting, too. Tantoo Cardinal is a Cree woman and she played the part of a Nooksak or Samish or whatever the "Indigenous" people were in Stumptown. I'm fine with these sorts of inconsistencies in "representation" casting as long as it's convincing. So, when it comes to the Little Mermaid, a character and fairytale that's the Danish people and the city of Copenhagen, a Danish actress would be ideal, but a white girl that can pass for Danish is acceptable. I think there should be respect for the artist, his character and his culture, not unlike the controversy over Tolkien right now. If Disney wanted to truly be inclusive and diverse, they would have cast Halle Bailey in a movie about Mami Wata. The default doesn't have to be European fairytales. African folklore is worthy of depiction on the silver screen.
Thanks for your wonderful and considered comment. I think you covered all the points I missed. I have a fine Anishinabe friend, Drew Taylor. And my wife is Métis. I wrote a sitcom called Rupert's Land about the fur trade in the 1800s. It had lots of Indigenous characters but alas was not picked up. Take care.
@@CallMeChato That sounds amazing! I wish I could see such a sitcom, and not just for the Anishinabe and Metis representation. I don't know if you're at all familiar with Thunder Bay, but it's home to Fort William Historical Park which is a recreation of a North West Company fur trading post of that era. The young men and women that work at the park are geeks and nerds for the fur trade and have a group called, The Beaver Club. If only those at the CBC or another Canadian network would see the potential in such a comedy. The CBC especially, does period television so well. Fort William could even serve as a filming location for your series and I'm sure you'd have a built in audience in the Beaver Club and the people of Thunder Bay. I've only become your fan through UA-cam. I may have been too young to have watched Four on the Floor when it aired on TV. I've tried looking for it online to no avail. Do you know who holds the right to the series? It really should be available for streaming on CBC Gem. Oddly, enough, I see that The Kids in the Hall is an "Amazon original," even though it was on CBC long before the advent of Amazon and the internet. Your friend Drew, I'm guessing is a playwright. I don't know him personally, but he is a friend of a friend from my university days. Oh, and sorry for the screen of text. I don't mean to be so wordy. Your videos really appeal to me and I have so much to say in response. Had you been a writing or film professor at U of T, I would have made it a point to take all of your courses. You're just one of those people who can hold an audience and you always have such interesting insight into television media. Keep up the good work. All the best to you and your wife and family.
@@david_walker_esq Thanks David. Didn’t get to Thunder Bay this summer but did visit a similar experience at Fort Gibraltar in Winnipeg. Great idea for a show but CBC wants stern indigenous only. 😅 Métis Crossing was a great stop.
@@CallMeChato OMG! CBC doesn't understand Indigenous humour. I don't know if you've seen Reservation Dogs on FX, but it's one of the few good things Taika Waititi is attached to, directly or indirectly, I don't know. But, it's a good mix of self deprecation and what we call "giibaadis." I don't know what it is in English, but a person who is giibaadis is called a giibaak and that's where the words Quebec and Quebecois/giibaakwa come from. It's sort of like the humour of incompetence if you know what I mean. Fort Gibraltar is one of the sister forts of Fort William. It would make for another ideal filming location. Do you need a token Indian to get CBC interested? There are enough of us that would be more than willing to support your show.
The utter contempt for and hatred of motherhood and fatherhood is something that deeply permeates these movies, too.
Diversity as a concept should be the industry standard, but the way diversity has been in practice has been a fate worse than death.
Diversity in story's is what is needed. It feels so forced in many movies shows now. But if they made Original story's that require a diverse cast to tell a good story then we would be interested.
'Be seeing you.' I appreciate your reference to The Prisoner. Well done.
"F--- you, Jim!" I burst out laughing at the abrupt and unexpected statement. That's my kind of humor. 😛
I hate modern diversity in movies and tv shows as its usually not about showing people from different backgrounds with different sexualities. It's now used as a political tool to appease the woke mob and as defence against bad writing, bad cgi and/or bad directing. It's a shame too, some of my favourite characters growing up aren't white but they were my favourite because of how they were well written and I could see myself in them or they were so awesome I wish I could be them. It's a sad time we live in when people have to see themselves in a fictional character to enjoy the character
Slight correction, Nick Fury of the Ultimate Marvel Universe was designed to look like Samuel L Jackson, and was created in 2001.
I have been corrected.
@@CallMeChato Amusingly the story I heard was that Nick Fury was based originally on David Hasselhoff because he was cool, back in the day. But since he wasn't cool now, when they were making the Ultimates setting they looked for an actor who was cool now.
And as you noted, Samuel L. Jackson kicks ass! 😄
@@dustincameron787 David Hasselhoff was the original actor to play Nick Fury in live action, but the character pre-dates Hasselhoff by several decades.
You beat me to it. They asked Samuel specifically during the run of Ultimates if they could use his likeness when the time came for live action Nick Fury the casting was a no brainer
Ultimate Nick Fury first appeared in an issue of Ultimate X-Men, and although he was Black, he did not resemble Samuel L Jackson. It wasnt until The Ultimates which was drawn by Bryan Hitch. Bryan Hitch likes to base the characters he draws on real people. For example, in the comic book version of Wanted, he based the two main characters on Eminem and Halle Berry. But in the movie version they cast James McAvoy and Angelina Jolie.
I think I agree with your sentiment. Essentially, diversity is still given, at best, a "token" treatment by Hollywood.
I used to watch loads of Chinese kung fu movies as a kid, I never noticed my race wasn't represented I just enjoyed the film because only a bigot would focus on representation.
i was at work today talking with my coworker about things and something really obvious sort of it me. this obsession with diversity is purely a visual external thing, they want everyone to look different and dress different and express different. but inside they want EVERYONE to be exactly the same, NO diversity of thought or personality at all.
Not a lot of Arab American Muslim women in Hijab 😺I just was raised by a father who taught me I don't need to see myself on screen to feel confident in who I am. In fact most of my favorite characters are extremely different than me. From Veso-R the white straight male Corpus engineer, to Ghost the floating AI to Cayde- the exo robot. 😺 And I didn't care for . . . . Shock and horror. . . . Ms Marvel 😸
Dude, THANK YOU so much for posting. We desperately need these kind of keenly intelligently thought out criticisms / observations.
The issue with Rings of power is that its supposed to be set in Tolkiens world, which was written to be an Ancient Mythology for Britain. Heavily influenced by Gaelic and Nordic mythology and Tolkiens own Roman Catholic faith. His stories contain his messages and his description of the world he created. Rings of Power should never have been written by people who wanted to use The Lord of The Rings brand to insert their messages and ideology. The hiding behind the racism and sexism banner isn't working, considering how well House of the Dragon is doing.
Hollywood seems to dislike European mythology because it is too white.
So they change it.
Why not look at other mythology from other cultures, African, Asian and so on. My ancestry is Scottish/Irish so I would love to see story's fantasy based on the mythology of Celtic cultures. But I would love to see fantasy stories from other cultures as well. But would Hollywood start race swapping for the sake of diversity and The Message.
@@greenarrow219there are so many stories from Gaelic mythology alone. Many modern fantasy draw heavily from Gaelic mythology, Druids, Leprechauns, Elves, Faries,Bnshe ect... Norse, Greek and Roman mythology are better known and therefore more noticeable in popular culture. Unfortunately outside of Ireland the word Celtic is used to describe multiple Pagan cultures across Northern Europe as one, Celts never existed.
@@acemanington Celtic more a descriptive term for culture. Similar languages, art and so on. Unless your interests are in archeology history not many people know Celtic is not a race.
Lots of myths and legends have some kind of root in real events.
I am so looking forward to the Hollywood TV series or movie set in feudal Japan in which half the Samurai are black and half are women.
I frankly do not think Hollywood will ever become more diverse. Sorry Chato. They're too busy with "THE MESSAGE" at the moment, and losing money.
How do they still have money when it’s been this bad for nearly 10 years
One of the many things a applaud you for sir is your honesty.
When me and my wife heard whom they were casting as Ariel over 2 years ago we actually loved the idea but in those 2 years after a lot of garbage it hit me that they might turn my movie into a soap box for politics rather than give me a good film.
I really hope that’s not the case but it’s a dangerous game Disney is playing with literally all of their properties.
It’s not just with sports though I believe when you state the reasons as sports tend to always be diverse with the exceptions of hockey and basketball.
I don’t think it would have gotten nearly as many down votes if the Pinocchio movie and Rings of Power weren’t so bad.
a "good" pinocchio remake would have been met with the same criticism as the Lion King remake:
"What's the point?"
This remake is just met with a
"What a waste"
Fantastic points, my dude! Your perspective is always worth the watch/listen. Also, Madea/Ursula? I'd pay good money to watch Tyler Perry sing "Poor Unfortunate Souls."
This horse shit diversity is so insidious that it even worked its way into one of the only old school blockbusters of the past 5 years, Top Gun: Maverick. On the whole the film was mercifully free of preaching about why I'm such a horrible person, even still they couldn't resist giving us a pilot roster that represented all the major food groups in the United Nations. All we were missing was a pilot with a seeing eye dog as his RIO.
Cool, nobody cares
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That type of diversity (mere existence of different ethnicities, all original characters) seems innocuous and even good.
Diversity + heavy-handed preachiness, not so good.
@@wadetisthammer3612 Yeah the whole diversity push is toxic, because it poisons the public to a whole host of casting decisions, when a whole bunch of the actors involved are just trying to make a paycheck.
I'm glad those actors in Top Gun: Maverick can pay their bills by being part of something fan-fucking-tastic.
Actually one of the scenes I really thought worked well. When the female pilot finds out the slightly geeky chap with no callsign was her RIO, she simply told him to rack em. A poorly written movie would have had her sighing and making some snarky remarks, you know, to prove what a strong independent woman she was. No, her character immediately knew that if he was there, it was for a good reason. So yeah, the movie made sure to check some boxes but nothing at the expense of the story, so I can respect that.
Another brilliant commentary on what’s up with Hollywood. Been bing watching The Expanse over the past week, a godsend while the rest of the channels are wall to wall coverage of what’s going on in England.
If they're going to make so many changes to live action versions they should just go all out and make it a completely new story with new characters that could take place in the universe of the original, they could of made a new mermaid story about a new character who maybe was inspired by the story of Ariel.
And they don't do that because that's not what they want, they want to replace old stories because they see it as intrinsically white supremacist, I must say, cis white male supremacist, however, Bollywood stories or Chinese stories that have an overwhelming majority of characters of their own are fine. It is an attack on western culture
Take the bright side, at leat it will be a different story not almost a copy/ paste of the animated version
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Thanks for giving props to _The Expanse._
A great show largely filmed in our Toronto, Canada.
I find your analysis interesting, although I disagree with the idea that giving Hollywood any support right now helps. I'm going to wait for the current Hollywood culture and industry to die and I'll see if its successor manages to avoid the lack of imagination and fear of the woke mob issues that have poisoned most entertainment over the last decade.
Until then, there are books to be read. :)
I've been hearing that the big publishing companies went wokescold recently regarding thinly veiled checkbox requirements on what they will publish nowadays. Fortunately self-publication is a thing now, although I suspect getting reach and attention would be much more difficult since the media critics are in the same boat as the publishers.
I remember when there were so many really great sitcoms that revolved totally around black actors: Sanford & Son, Good Times, The Jefferson's to recall just a few. So darn funny. Oh, and then you had Flip Wilson! Looked forward to seeing Flip every week. As a natural ginger I resent the transformation of the few ginger heroes that made the teasing for hair color and not having the ability to tan tolerable.
I simply refuse to watch the forced diverse shit. I'll keep my £ in my pocket.
It’s all Orwellian doublespeak. When they speak of diversity, they mean monoculture. When they speak about having a dialogue, they mean delivering a monologue. When they speak of tolerance, they mean intolerance. But people aren’t fooled.
Race swapping characters is like a guy giving his new girlfriend his ex-wife's wedding ring...He's too lazy to give the new girl something that's bright, shiny, and new...
The new thing in Hollywood is that you shouldn’t be giving a wedding ring at all.
A pleasant surprise to hear us Finns get a mention.
Damn, I'm first! Do I get a boot to the head???
Do you study Ti Kwan Leep?
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...and one for Jenny and the wimp!
@@Dork_Savage I could go for a case of fine liquor with that boot to the head...
I am a new fan. English is my 3rd language. But I understand you clearly. Awesometastic!!!
She is a meat shield for them. She's being paid in dollars and clout to do so. I have no sympathy for her.
The main part of virtue signaling is that the signal is seen and acknowledged. That doesn’t leave much room for subtlety and nuisance and it’s why these attempts at diversity are done in such a ham fisted fashion.
Very touchy subject explored with due caution. No matter what you say on this, there'll be blowback. Raceswapping is a form of racism in my opinion, and I believe its ultimately harmful to those it aims to uplift since it screams of tokenism. Instead of that, why not develop a storyline from existing source material containing a beloved black protagonist, like Blade or Storm, if you really can't be bothered creating something new.
Good delivery. It’s nice to see someone who isn’t a millennial, or Gen X UA-camr that has a similar outlook on todays crazy left wing Hollywood lunacy and feels the same about it as me.
I don't get the obsession with REPLACING white characters with black ones. Why not just create NEW stuff, with new, interesting, original characters - who can be black? Replacing every beloved white character out there with a black one, is really making a statement which can be rather offensive to the majority population, as well as to the fans of the original character. Because on one hand, they are explaining how important it is with representation; and how it can be an important emotional experience to see your race represented on the screen, and yet they think white people won't mind when pretty much ALL of our beloved existing characters are race-swapped?! That's basically like saying "Yeah, you had your time, but we're gonna replace you now."
And it's not like we have any other place to go, this is the part of the world where we are the majority. If you visit other countries you will see their majority populations on their screens. Go to China and you'll see Chinese people on TV. Go to India and you'll see Indian people on TV. Go to Uganda and you'll see Ugandan people on TV... You get my point. Thus, it should be perfectly fine to see white people on TV in countries where the majority population is white. I don't understand why it's suddenly some sort of taboo to continue to portray beloved characters who are rooted in white culture as white, when that's how they were, originally. Again - feel free to create NEW characters who are diverse; by all means. They can become just as beloved and important as the white ones. BUT MAKE NEW ONES.
Yes, that is their excact motive. Just get it. Step one of genocide.
The problem is that rather than spend the money hiring representative talent behind and in front of the camera to create new and original ideas told by those whom they are about, Hollywood continue to bend and shape existing property: its lazy, cheap and insulting.
I would actually like to see content based on the history and mythology other cultures with appropriate actors cast in it. And I like good female leads in movies. But I am so sick of lazy race and gender swapping. I am also sick of incompetent people making bad shows and inserting a few people of colour to use as a defence from criticism. Most of all I am sick of the constant stream of crappy live action remakes of classic Disney cartoons.
There are so many myths and legends from European cultures to African or Asian. It would be fantastic to see those put to screen. But knowing Hollywood they would start race swapping those stories as well.
Hollywood was once the pinnacle of entertainment, not any more.
I find it reprehensible that I have no representation in modern Hollywood.... I can cough and give myself hiccups... I feel ignored...